1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life audio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: In a world where constant notifications, curated feeds, and digital 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: pressure shape how we see ourselves, many are left feeling anxious, isolated, 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: and distracted than ever. We long for a life that 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: is full of deep connection with God, ourselves, and others, 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: and yet we've become programmed to seek peace, contentment, and 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: happiness in our phones. Deep down, we know that this 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: isn't how we were created to live. As endless scrolling 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: leaves us feeling anxious, depressed, distracted, and alone. We realize 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: our true needs can't be met by turning to digital 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: media in every slow, mundane moment. If you feel like 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: your digital life could use a reset, this is the 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: episode for you. Welcome to your Hope filled Perspective with 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: doctor Michelle bankson where it's our goal to restore hope, 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: renew minds, and empower listeners to live in your God 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: given identity. I'm so thankful when you take a few 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: minutes out of your week to spend with us today. 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: We're talking about an important topic. We are going to 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: talk about how to break free from digital overload, basically 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: a Christian guide to healthy social media use. We'll dive 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: into that right after this brief word from our sponsor. 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: In this episode of Your Hope Filled Perspective, we are 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: going to talk about how to break free from digital overload. 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Consider it basically a Christian guide to healthy social media use. 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: Social media can so easily steal our peace, distort our identity, 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: and drain the joy God intends for us, especially when 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: we're already struggling with things like anxiety, insecurity, or loneliness. 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: That is why I am delighted to welcome Ali Marie Smith. 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: She is the author of Social Media Reset, a thirty 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: day guide journey to unplug, reconnect with God, and reclaim 31 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: your joy. Ali has spent years helping women cultivate mental, emotional, 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: and spiritual wellness, and her newsbook offers up practical and 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: faith field path to break free from digital overwhelm and 34 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: rediscover God's voice above the noise. It might sound trite, 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: but I really feel like Romans twelve two summarizes what 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: we're talking about today, and that says, do not conform 37 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: the renewing of your mind. Ali Marie Smith is an 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: award winning author, speaker, and life coach. She is also 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: the founder and CEO a Wonderfully Made, a national nonprofit 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: organization dedicated to helping girls and women know their God 42 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: given value and lead flourishing lives. She lives in Santa 43 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: Barbara County, where she loves riding, playing with horses, surfing, 44 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: and adventuring up and down the California coast. Welcome Allie, Hi. 45 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Michelle. 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. I loved having 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: you on our Wonderfully Made podcast as well, so it's 48 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: such an honor to be here. And I'm excited to 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: dive into this topic with you today. 50 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: And friends, if you listen to the episode, we'll put 51 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: it in the show notes so that you can find it. 52 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: Because Ellie and I became connected quite a while ago, 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: but I was excited when her book came across my desk, 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: and if I'm being honest with you, at the start, Allie, 55 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: it was pretty convicting. Frequently our books, our resources, or 56 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: our ministries, our birth out of our own needs, our 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: own pain, our own heartache. It often becomes the book 58 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: we wish we'd had. So what inspired you to write 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: Social Media Reset? And why did you feel this message 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: was needed? 61 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 3: Now? I got my first social media a count Facebook 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: right when it came out in two thousand and four, 63 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: and you had to have a dot edu email address 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: to actually use it. So I use it for a while. 65 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: It was fun, and then fast forward, Instagram came out. 66 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: It was fun. You would just post pictures. You didn't really. 67 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: Think about who was following you, how many lives you got. 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: But as the algorithms change and they designed it to 69 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: be addictive, I really did become addicted and IMpower my 70 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: daily life. It really negatively impacted. 71 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: My well being. 72 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: I was constantly refreshing my screen how many likes did 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: I get? With stiff neck, and wasn't looking outside the 74 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: car window as much. I was picking up my phone 75 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: hundreds of times a day, and I realized. 76 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: It was making me bummed out. It was making me anxious. 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: It was making me awake to other people's lives, even strangers' lives, 78 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: but I was feeling asleep to my own precious life 79 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: and all the work I do from starting the ministry 80 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: wonderfully made at the age of twenty was born out 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: of my own story, and so I had struggled with 82 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: severe depression and nearly lost my life to suicide attempt 83 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: at the age of eighteen and twenty one. 84 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: And you know, God saved my life and he didn't 85 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: have to. 86 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: And so I see every second of my life as 87 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: sacred and I don't want to waste a single second. 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: So when I realized, Michelle, I was on track, It's 89 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: been over five years of my life scrolling in a 90 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 3: virtual world I wasn't created to live in. 91 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: I put my phone down. 92 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: I apologize, and I took all the apps off my phone, 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: and I've learned to use them with boundary. Social media 94 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: with boundaries no way that I use it in a 95 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: good way. I get the most out of it. But 96 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: I ditched all the junks. 97 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: So it did come. 98 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: Like you said, our books can often come from personal experiences, 99 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: and I just see today how negatively. 100 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Effect it has affected people. 101 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: I've worked with girls from the age of eighteen, and 102 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: today's mental health crisis that is facing teen girls today 103 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: is directly caused from social media. The suicide rate went 104 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: up around from twenty ten twenty twenty over like one 105 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty one percent, and today one in threeteen 106 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: girls seriously contemplate attempting suicide. So that's a whole other 107 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: reason I want to see girls unplug. I want to 108 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: see them get their joy back, return to the kind 109 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: of life we are created for. 110 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: Isn't that just how the enemy works? So many things 111 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: come about as advances in society and they can be 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: used for good, but then the enemy collops them and 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: turns them for our harm. I came to social media 114 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: kicking and screaming when I don't even remember what year 115 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: I joined. It was probably ten years ago, but I 116 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: remember thinking, I don't want to tell people when I'm 117 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: going to Walmart, and I don't want to post pictures 118 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: of my meal. But I sensed that if I allowed 119 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: God to it could be another form of ministry. And 120 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: it has been allie, but there is that addictive component. 121 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: So I want to talk with you about You've been 122 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: very transparent, but how has your personal relationship with social 123 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: media influenced maybe your spiritual journey, or your emotional journey, 124 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: or your own mental health journey, because you've been very 125 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: honest about how you've struggled in the past. 126 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 127 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 3: So when I was in my full on social media addiction, 128 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 3: the anxiety I was experiencing was heightened, my mood was lower. 129 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 3: I was very self focused. I was constantly concerned with 130 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: the curiosity of I wonder what people think about me. 131 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: I wonder when I post this photo, what they're going 132 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: to think about me. Oh, I didn't get enough likes, 133 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: I better take it down. It kept me self focused. 134 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: I was ruminating on things that I was insecure about 135 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: picking up my phone. Like I said, hundreds of times, 136 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: I wasn't present in my own life. 137 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't even. 138 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: Present for my husband and for my friends, and I 139 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: just I just got sick of it. 140 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: I just didn't like. I just felt sick inside. My 141 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: soul felt unwell, it. 142 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: Felt full of inks, and I just felt sick. 143 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: And so what I did, like I said, is. 144 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: I took a long break and that broke my dependency 145 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: on it. And then I did one thing which is 146 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: pretty radical that most of a lot of people don't 147 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: think about, is I just deleted all the apps off 148 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: my phone. 149 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: And I haven't had them on my phone for over 150 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: twelve years. 151 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: But I access social media through my computer and my 152 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: iPad because I'm not going to be carrying that around 153 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: with me day to day. So now I will say 154 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 3: I don't have a perfect relationship with social media, even 155 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: though I use it minimally and intentionally, I can will 156 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: get caught up in it, Michelle. It impacts each one 157 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,119 Speaker 3: of us on such a profound level, on a soul 158 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: level and a spiritual level, an emotional level, even in 159 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: our brains and in our bodies. And so today, outside 160 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: of my social media addiction, I feel present, I feel grateful, 161 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: I feel wide awake to my own life, and I 162 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: use it in a very countercultural way. I hardly even 163 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: look at friends updates or photos. 164 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: I just want to be. 165 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: Alive, to awake to my life, and it allows me 166 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: to do better work. And there's just more of a 167 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: piece in my day to day life and my soul 168 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: that I did not have when I was consumed by 169 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: all those notifications and the endless scrolling. 170 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: What do you see as the biggest spiritual danger of 171 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: unchecked social media use. 172 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: The first one that comes to mind is that famous quote. 173 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: We know comparison is a thief of joy, but in 174 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: the Book of Proverbs it says we wrought the bones, 175 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: and God has given each one of us a life, 176 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 3: a precious life, and he didn't have to create us. 177 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: It's an honor to have a heartbeat and to have 178 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: breath in our lungs and So when we fall asleep 179 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: to the good gifts, the blessings in our life, and 180 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: we take our eyes off of Christ and off of 181 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: the good things around us, and we fix our gaze 182 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: on watching other people's lives unfold. 183 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: On a screen. 184 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 3: As our own lives go neglected, it kills us spiritually. 185 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:42,479 Speaker 3: We're catapulted into a spiritual slumber, and it is truly devastating. 186 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 3: And we know there's a lot of talk about what 187 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: it does to our mental health, but there's a lack 188 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: of conversation about what it does to our souls. 189 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: And so I love, I love exploring that. 190 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: Why do you think so many Christians feel disconnected from 191 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: God even while they're constantly connected online? 192 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: Well, I love thinking of John fifteen. Jesus is a 193 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 3: vine and we are the branches, and we are made 194 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: to remain in Him, to abide in Him. And I 195 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: found it's really difficult to abide in Christ when we 196 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: have this handheld slot machine as our fifth appendage, and 197 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: it goes everywhere we go, and it's constantly giving you notifications, 198 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: and in those precious in between moments of our lives, 199 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: we look here, we look at our phone, we look 200 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 3: at our screen, we look at strangers' lives, we look 201 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: at celebrities lives, we look at glimpses of wars and devastation. 202 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: And we don't look up. We don't look around. 203 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: There's that monastic practice of statio, and what it is 204 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: is just the in between moments of our lives where 205 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: we have the opportunity. Within those in between moments, say 206 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: from doing dishes, to going to your car, to recognize God, 207 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: to honor God, to thank God, to praise Him, to 208 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: meditate on a verse. But what we're doing instead every 209 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: Monday moment, we're picking up that phone. The average adult 210 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: has over one hundred phone pickups a day, check their 211 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: phones and average every ten minutes. And so we're missing 212 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: those opportunities to have a direct messaging with God. 213 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Right where we have all these dms, right. 214 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: We're d mding all these people, But are we direct 215 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: messaging to God? And that was one thing that just 216 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: transformed when I took those apps off my phone and 217 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: I put social media in place. I'm constantly talking to God. 218 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: I'm constantly praising him and thanking him. 219 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: I remember years ago when I was working at the 220 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: hospital and I how long commute about forty five minutes 221 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: each way without traffic, and this was pre social media 222 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: for me, and it was such a beautiful time because 223 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: every day on the way to work, I just have 224 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: this long prayer time time with God. And now you 225 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: receive text messages while you're driving, in phone calls while 226 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: you're driving. Back then, I didn't even have a cell 227 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: phone in my car. So I've seen such a shift. 228 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: And I have some concerns about this current younger generation 229 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: because they haven't known life pre digital age. And we're 230 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: going to talk more about how to break free from 231 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: digital overload right after this brief word from our sponsor, Allie, 232 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: help us to understand how a social media reset can 233 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: even restore our identity in Christ. 234 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: Before I get there and talk about our identity in Christ, 235 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: studies just show research shows after one day, two day, 236 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: three days a week off social media, anxiety levels instantly 237 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 3: go down, happiness goes up, and our brains neuropathways are 238 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: able to be reset. And in regards to our identity 239 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 3: and Christ, when we take a break, we're no longer 240 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: concerned with. 241 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: The lives of other people. 242 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: We are present for our own lives, and we're more 243 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 3: able to believe who God says we are rather than 244 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: to be deceived, because we give the enemy the evil 245 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: on a foothold. When we are exposed to the daily 246 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: ins and outs of the most beautiful, richest people who 247 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: have things that you want, or you're comparing your life 248 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: to them, that gives the enemy and opportunity to really 249 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: come in. And actually, what it even does to our 250 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 3: brain is it activates the default mode network in our brain, 251 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: which actually causes rumination, which can cause self doubt and insecurity. 252 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: And so once again it reconnects us with God. It 253 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: draws us close to God, to the beauty and the 254 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: miracle of our own lives. And what's great about the 255 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 3: book is really, yes, you take thirty days to unplug 256 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: and you. 257 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Can do the best you can. 258 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: And some people need use social media for work, so 259 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: I talk about that. But it's really like a life 260 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: coaching journey full of scripture, and it's an opportunity to 261 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: show up for your own life with a new level 262 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: of excitement and intentionality and joy. And it's filled with 263 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: truth about our identity in Christ. So it allows us 264 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: to quiet all outside noise and all the voices and 265 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: get in the word of God. 266 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: And God tells us who. 267 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: We are, and he invites us into a better, though 268 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: and popular way of life and shows us who we 269 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: are and who we can be more fully alive versions 270 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: of ourselves who are truly living the kind of life 271 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: we're created for because we're so far removed from it. 272 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: And social media is a world we were not designed 273 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: to live in, and it's making us unwell and body, mind, spirit, 274 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: and in our soul. 275 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: So I'm thinking about the listener or reviewer that says, oh, 276 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: but I don't, I don't have an issue with that. 277 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: What signs should someone look for that indicate it might 278 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: be time for a social media break or reset? 279 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love encouraging people to look at your 280 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: screen time, good to your settings, because awareness is really 281 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: important because we can come so used to it that 282 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: we lose sight of really how much time we're actually 283 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: spending on these apps. When it is a compulsion where 284 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: it's just like a habit, you're just constantly reaching for it. 285 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: You're bored where you go, you go to your phone. 286 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: How do you feel when you walk away from scrolling? 287 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: Feeling kind of yucky? 288 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: Like I did. It's something you think about even when 289 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: you're not on it. 290 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: I know, that was something I would you say, the 291 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: idea there's like the idea of being forever elsewhere, like 292 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: we can be in the present moment because but because 293 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: of the chaos of social media, which is so overwhelming, 294 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: we're in a virtual world. Even in our head, we're 295 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: forever elsewhere. And so that's another thing you find yourself 296 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: thinking about whose pictures you saw, what's going on in line? 297 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: And am I missing out on anything? So those are 298 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: just a few of many, many signs. And I do 299 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: teach about more about that and how to know if 300 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: you really have an addiction too. 301 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so important. Friends, I'm going to encourage you to 302 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: go to the show notes that you can find at 303 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: doctor michelleb dot com because we'll put all the information 304 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: about Allie and her ministry and her book Social Media Reset. 305 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: It's one you're gonna want for the new year, I 306 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: promise Allie. In this process and it does sound like 307 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: it was a process for you coming to the realization 308 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: that all that digital time was not healthy and learning 309 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: how do I cope with that? To taking it off 310 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: your phone? What did you learn about God or your 311 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: identity or purpose through your journey of unplugging? 312 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: It left me It's made me more in awe of 313 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: God because I'm not looking down. I'm looking up at 314 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: His beauty, at His creation, and I'm just have so 315 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: much more wonder and a life of whimsy. I say, 316 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: I have a chapter called Whimsy, Wonder, Rest, and Play, 317 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: and it's returning to that life life. 318 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: So definitely being more. 319 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: In awe of God, like I said, more firmly planted 320 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: in my identity in Christ because I'm no longer concerned 321 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 3: with imaginary thoughts I think people are having about me 322 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 3: or judging what I post, because when we post online, 323 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: we can actually feel very very self conscious and expose 324 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: and like I shared before, that can keep us really 325 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: thinking about ourselves. And I'll tell you what Michelle from 326 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 3: my own story dealing with depression insecurity. The more that 327 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: I focus on myself, the more unwell I become. But 328 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: when I forget myself and I fix my eyes upon 329 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 3: God and focus on loving other people and living out 330 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: the passion, that's when I become begin to become free. 331 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: Let's turn our conversation to talk about what boundaries around 332 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: social media have been most transformation on what you would recommend. 333 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: I really encourage people to take a break especially if 334 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: you've been using social media for a long time. This 335 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: isn't a mandate invitation. God invites us into a better, 336 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: though unpopular way of life. And I like to encourage 337 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: people to think about not so much what they're leaving 338 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: behind or what they can't do. It's more about what 339 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 3: you're getting in exchange. It is so much better. So 340 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 3: it's not about what you're going to be missing out 341 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 3: on offline, but it's about the peace and the joy 342 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: and the contentment you are going to get online. So 343 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: definitely taking a break, a thirty day break really resets 344 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 3: your brain's neural pathways. It helps you break that addiction 345 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 3: which is so ingrained, is ingrained in most people. About 346 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: thirty percent people say that they are full and addicted 347 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: to social media. 348 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: So that will. 349 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: Arouse enough to your nervous system to calm down your 350 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: brain's neural pathways. I know you know all about the brain. 351 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: You're the brain expert. Are are well, will have less anxiety, 352 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: more joy. But thirty days, we'll all give the ideal 353 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: recipe to get the most out of this experience. So 354 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: as you unplug for thirty days and you invite all 355 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: the girls, all the women, you love to join you 356 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: and actually have a five week course on my website 357 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 3: that walks through this experience. But then you have this 358 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: amazing experience with your friends, with your Bible study, with 359 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: the women in your church, and you all unplugged together, 360 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: and you return to the kind of life we were 361 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: created for. See, we weren't created for this disembodied digital world. 362 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: We were created for an embodied life of true in 363 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: person connection and community we are never going to find offline. 364 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: So again it's not saying like, oh, I'm not going 365 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: to have this, it's oh, you're going to have something 366 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: so much better. And then after that, I list fifteen 367 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: boundaries in the back of the book, from more extreme 368 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: boundaries like me, I don't have any apps on my phone, 369 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 3: to using time limits. You can you know, check your 370 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: screen time. There's all sorts of time limits you can 371 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: put in. We do have a spirit of discipline, so 372 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: even though it's addictive, we can still have control over 373 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: social media. So it doesn't we it, so it doesn't 374 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: control us. 375 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: So I really. 376 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: Encourage some people think not about having it, not going 377 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: to the first thing in the morning, having quiet time 378 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: with God, not in the Evening's buffer your time maybe 379 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: limit your number of posts. 380 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm just going to post once a week. 381 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: I'm going to post twice a week, go off on 382 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: the weekends, you know, keep your phone away when you're 383 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: with company, share your boundaries with friends for accountability. And 384 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: so I go into the list of fifteen boundaries because 385 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: I want people to zoom out. 386 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: And think, well, first, what kind of person. 387 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: Do I want to begin? What do I want my 388 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 3: legacy to be? Because when we look at social media 389 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: from a broader spiritual perspective, it's really going to motivate 390 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: us to put it in its place. Because one hour 391 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: a day on social media on your phone across the 392 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: lifespan can come out. We'll come out to three years 393 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: of your life. So two to four hours a day 394 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: will come out to four to six years of your life. 395 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 3: Four or more hours a day on your phone will 396 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 3: come out up to eleven or more years on your life. Today, 397 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: fifteen percent of girls are spending forty or more hours 398 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: a week, and we, oh, there's so much I can 399 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: go into about how we too can now die. We're 400 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: on track of dying with more memories of other people's 401 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: lives than our own, and that's to terrify us, So 402 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 3: we have to ask. You know, one day we're going 403 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: to stand before God and we're going to have to 404 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 3: give an account for how we lived our lives, how 405 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: we exhausted every borrowed breath He gave us. And I 406 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 3: love asking ourselves what will it What will it take 407 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: for you to get to the end of your life 408 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: and say you did all you could do with the 409 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: time God gave you. 410 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: That is definitely a convicting perspective because we are going 411 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: to have to take an account for how we spent 412 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: our time, for the words we said, for our motivations. Ellie, 413 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: if a listener reviewer is resonating with this conversation today, 414 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: what hope field perspective would you want to leave them with. 415 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: We do not have to conform to the patterns of 416 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: this world, going back to that verse who shared called 417 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: not to conform. And God has a better life in 418 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: store for us than the life the world offers us. 419 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: And even though you might feel stuck in a cycle 420 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: of scrolling or comparison, you can overcome it. You can 421 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 3: find freedom. You can put social media in its place 422 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: and just go for it. Try it, Grab a friend, unplugged, 423 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: show up to your life at a new level of 424 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: excitement and joy and return to God. Unfollow the ways 425 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: of the world and follow Christ. He'll lead us into 426 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: a life of peace and joy and the fullness of 427 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: joy in His presence. 428 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: So, true, friends, I want to leave you with Isaiah 429 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: thirty verse fifteen that says, in repentance and rest is 430 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: your salvation. In quietness and trust is your strength. But 431 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 2: when our lives are so busy and cluttered by spending 432 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: time in this digital microcosm, it's hard to be quiet, 433 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: it's hard to be at rest, and it's really putting 434 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: our trust in something or someone other than God. I'm 435 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: going to be working on this my own life, and 436 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: I encourage you to join me. If you want more 437 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: information about how to set those boundaries and what Ellie 438 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: is recommended, please go to doctor michelleb dot com and 439 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: click on the link for Ellie's book. We will have 440 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: that there. Ellie, thank you for being transparent and vulnerable 441 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: and sharing out of your own journey so that it 442 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: can encourage us to have a better here. 443 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: Thank you, Michelle. 444 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: I just want to share about our ministry for girls 445 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 3: and women, Wonderfully Made. We have a huge heart for 446 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: young girls. I know many of your listeners might be 447 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 3: grandma's and have granddaughters. We have so many get resources 448 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: for girls just to help them know there were so 449 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 3: they can visit us at Wonderfullymade dot org just to 450 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: get some support for girls that they love. 451 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: Perfect and friends. We'll make sure that we put that 452 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: link in the show notes as well, so everything will 453 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: be in one place for you friends. I really hope 454 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: that there was something in today's episode that encouraged you, 455 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: but probably even challenged you. I know it did me. 456 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: If there was something today that has spurred something in 457 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: you and you don't want to do this journey alone, 458 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: do like Ali suggested and get a group of your 459 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: friends to go through it together. But first consider sharing 460 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: it this episode with them so that they can see 461 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: the importance, so that they can see the transformation that 462 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: Ali talked about in her own life. I look forward 463 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: to being with you with another episode of your hope 464 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: Field perspective next week. Until then, may you quiet your mind, 465 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: turn off the social media, and spend more time in 466 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: his presence until we meet again next week. It's my 467 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 2: prayer for you that you have a hope Field week. 468 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: Are you for your group looking for a speaker for 469 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: your next event or gathering. 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