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Speaker 1: Larry Elder Saledom News Channel. Jasmine Crockett, who's running for

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Speaker 1: Senate in Texas, says she's counting on the Texas AOC

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Speaker 1: said Latinos who vote for Donald Trump have a quote

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Speaker 1: over well with the text of Latino voters. Obamacare's faults

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Speaker 1: are suddenly a Republican problem. Fraud, however, is rampant. David

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Speaker 1: Letterman says that Jimmy Kimmel is quote the leader of

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Speaker 1: Some day Democrats are saying that Donald Trump has lost

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Speaker 1: it mentally. You know, the same ones who were saying

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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden was sharp as attack. Bernie Sanders says

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Speaker 1: he's quote not a great supporter of Obamacare close quote,

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Speaker 1: because of course he wants it to go further. Illinois

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Speaker 1: Joy Reid and Charlottage the God say that Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: has no intention of leaving office when his term ends.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna take me alive, Copper. The BBC that

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Speaker 1: admitted earlier that they deceptively edited Trump's January sixth speech

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Speaker 1: to make it look like he was encouraging violence are

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Speaker 1: now admitting that they falsely accused Trump of wanting to

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Speaker 1: kill Liz Cheney. Why does rint control not work? And

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Speaker 1: where is the so called housing affordability crisis in Red States?

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Speaker 1: What's this? Trump's approval ratings up three points in just

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Speaker 1: one week. I repeat, Trump's approval ratings up three points

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Speaker 1: in just one week. A judge has ordered the release

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Speaker 1: of the Epstein grand jury files, and as expected, today,

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Speaker 1: the Fed cut interest rates by one quarter of a point.

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Speaker 1: But first, hope you're sitting down. If you're driving, you

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Speaker 1: probably are. Rasmussen poll finds fifty one percent of likely

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Speaker 1: voters under the age of forty want a Democrat socialist

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Speaker 1: to win the twenty twenty eight presidential election. Let me

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Speaker 1: read that again. New Rasmussen poll fifty one percent of

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Speaker 1: likely voters under forty want a Democrat socialist to become

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Speaker 1: our next president. Among young Democrats, eighty two percent support

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Speaker 1: a Democrat socialist president. Again, among young Democrats those forty

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Speaker 1: a Democrat socialist to become president. What gives When asked

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Speaker 1: who influenced them towards socialism, twenty seven percents that their

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Speaker 1: parents seventeen percent set online videos and podcasts. That means

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Speaker 1: one in four learned to love socialism because of mom

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Speaker 1: and dad. What's going on here? Young people raised in

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Speaker 1: They're spoiled, and they believe that there's some big money

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Speaker 1: of rich people who are undeserved. Consider this. This is CNBC. Now,

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Speaker 1: CNBC is no right wing organization, It's a part of NBC.

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Speaker 1: NBC despises Trump. They issued a report came out this

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Speaker 1: month Apartment vacancies around America have climbed to an all

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Speaker 1: time high. What wouldn't that mean rents should be going down?

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Speaker 1: Apartment vacancies across America all time high, which shows you

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Speaker 1: America does not have a housing shortage, It has a

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Speaker 1: policy shortage. The people like Mamdani blame landlords, they blame developers,

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Speaker 1: they blame corporate greed. They never look into the freaking mirror.

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Speaker 1: According to the CNBC report, not Wah, the cities with

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Speaker 1: the worst so called affordability crises are the ones that

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Speaker 1: impose heavy handed regulation zoning, rent control, endless environmental reviews,

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Speaker 1: As Goes California, My Mission to rescue the Golden State

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Speaker 1: and save the nation. In California, it's ground zero for

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Speaker 1: all this nonsense. During my race for governor, I was

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Speaker 1: of sequel, he said, No, I said, was passed when

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Speaker 6: Ever, the next two three four years, those numbers aren't

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Speaker 6: have income tax to pay.

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Speaker 4: Whether you get rid of it or just keep it

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Speaker 4: around for fun, or have it really low, much.

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Speaker 6: Lower than it is now, but you will be paying

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Speaker 6: income tax. We've slashed one trillion dollars in courtly job

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Speaker 6: killing regulations, saving Americans in essence.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one sage Triple eight nine seven

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Speaker 1: one seven two four to three. Larry Elder Saledom News

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Speaker 1: Channel that is President Trump saying that in three or

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Speaker 1: four years, maybe they won't have an income tax at

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Speaker 1: all because of the tariffs. At one time, tariff were

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Speaker 1: the principal generator of income for the country. Even when

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Speaker 1: the Constitution was amended for an income tax nineteen thirteen,

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Speaker 1: still roughly fifty percent of the revenue from America still

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Speaker 1: came from terraffs. Not anymore. Triple eight ninety seven one

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Speaker 1: Crockett says she's counting on the Texas AOC and Mom

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Speaker 1: Dommy voters to put her over the top and her

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Speaker 1: race for it. I want to talk about Obamacare all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it is a Republican problem, and about

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Speaker 1: the fraud rampant. The governor of Illinois has signed a

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Speaker 1: bill providing illegal alien's greater protection against Trump, and Bill

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Speaker 1: Maher says, you know, I would consider voting Republican, but

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Speaker 1: they have to stop denying elections first. All of this

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Speaker 1: and more, let me just finish this thought here now.

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Speaker 1: Thirty or forty years after the New Yorkers viewed the

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Speaker 1: Irish as a criminal class, by the eighteen eighties eighteen nineties,

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Speaker 1: from sixty percent to less than ten percent. Three quarters

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Speaker 1: of the police force became Irish. The Irish were prosecutors, judges.

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Speaker 1: Alcoholism and drug addiction pretty much withered away. By the

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Speaker 1: eighteen eighties. It is estimated that sixty percent of Irish

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Speaker 1: women and almost a third of Irish men totally abstained

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Speaker 1: from alcohol. Many sections of the City of New York

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Speaker 1: became known for their peacefulness, order and cleanliness. Irish sections

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Speaker 1: a far cry from the filth and violence of places

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Speaker 1: like Five Points and Sweeneysh shambles of the mid century.

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Speaker 1: Irish prostitution virtually disappeared from the city. The army of

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Speaker 1: Irish young boys wandering around the city without adult supervision

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Speaker 1: almost completely gone. Children entered the priesthood or the convent

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Speaker 1: went into professions politics, sports, show business, and commerce. By

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Speaker 1: eighteen ninety, some thirty percent of the New York City's

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Speaker 1: teachers were Irish. The Irish literacy rate exceeded ninety percent.

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Speaker 1: All this happened over a period of thirty or forty years.

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Speaker 1: I'm Larry Elder, so let's get her teed up.

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Speaker 4: You trying to play shutting off to my ear with

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Speaker 4: that subdigal.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s A g E. Triple

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Speaker 1: Salem News Channel. David Letterman says Jimmy Kimmel is the

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Speaker 1: leader of the resistance, referring to his antagonism towards you

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Speaker 1: know who. Number ninety eight Jimmy Yeah, ninety eight, ninety eight.

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Speaker 7: If people are aware the fact that you are the

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Speaker 7: leader of the resistance, I am the uh, I.

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Speaker 3: Am the totally an effective leader of the resistance.

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Speaker 7: By the way, will this be televised tonight? I can

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Speaker 7: never keep track with you getting yanked off well.

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Speaker 1: Sor I don't want to wake up over there.

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Speaker 8: For God's sake, Anton would have hit that one, no problem.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 7: And speaking of leaders, let me just say one thing here.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna suck up to you because I

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Speaker 7: feel like if I kind of tag along with you,

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Speaker 7: I will be glorified in retrospect my own.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like you you just sit there.

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Speaker 7: If if, if the this is irrespective of a party

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Speaker 7: or political ideology, irrespective part of your political ideology. If

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Speaker 7: the leader of the free world is a fool, the

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Speaker 7: leader of the free world then should expect and examine

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Speaker 7: every bit of ridicule he receives.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what that even means. Jimmy Kimmel's

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Speaker 1: wife says she's lost family members because of Trump, but

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Speaker 1: her husband is fighting Trump every day in the trenches,

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Speaker 1: taking income, wearing a kevlar vest number ninety four.

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Speaker 9: Thankfully, my immediate family all they did not vote for

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump. They did the first time, a few of

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Speaker 9: them we flipped them the second time. It's it's weird.

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Speaker 9: When Donald Trump was first elected, I was so upset,

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Speaker 9: we all were. But I remember thinking, I understand it

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Speaker 9: because I grew up in a very conservative Republican house.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I bought my dad a rush limbought taie.

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Speaker 9: In high school, I voted Republicans straight ticket, and that's

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Speaker 9: what I was told to do. And then I left

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Speaker 9: Saint Louis, Missouri, and I met people from different backgrounds,

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Speaker 9: and I started to understand different things and different needs

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Speaker 9: and different people. And so there's like a little bit

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Speaker 9: of sympathy I have for people in my family that

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Speaker 9: I feel are kind of being deliberately misinformed every day.

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Speaker 9: And they've yeah, they are deliberately being misinformed every day,

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Speaker 9: and they believe it. But it hurts me so much

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Speaker 9: because of the personal relationship I now have, where my

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Speaker 9: husband is out there fighting this man, and to me,

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Speaker 9: them voting for Trump is them not voting for my

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Speaker 9: husband and me and our family, and I unfortunately have

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Speaker 9: kind of lost relationships with people in my family because

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Speaker 9: of it. This is not just Republican versus Democrat for

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Speaker 9: me anymore. It is to me it's family value, and

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Speaker 9: it's it's really hard for me because I grew up

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Speaker 9: believing in these Christian ideals of taking care of the

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Speaker 9: sick and taking care of the poor, and I don't

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Speaker 9: see that happening with this Republican party. And so it's

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Speaker 9: I feel like I'm kind of in constant conflict and

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Speaker 9: I'm angry all the time, which isn't healthy at all,

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Speaker 9: But I like personalize everything now. When I see these

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Speaker 9: terrible stories every day, I'm immediately mad at certain aunts, uncles,

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Speaker 9: cousins who put him in power. And it's really hard,

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Speaker 9: and it's I wish I could like deprogram myself.

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Speaker 1: In some way. Republicans don't care about the sick, don't

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Speaker 1: care about the poor. How many times do you hear

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Speaker 1: this nonsense? I've talked you about this before. There's a

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Speaker 1: book called Who Really Cares? Read by a former professor

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Speaker 1: at Syracuse, and he wanted to do a paper and

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Speaker 1: found out Arthur Brooks that no one had ever done

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Speaker 1: a study on who was more generous with their time

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Speaker 1: with their money conservatives or liberals. He assumed the ante

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Speaker 1: would be liberals, but no one had ever done a

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Speaker 1: real study, and he was shocked, so he did the

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Speaker 1: research over again. It turned out conservatives were far more

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Speaker 1: generous with their money and with their time than liberals,

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Speaker 1: and there were primarily two reasons for this. The first

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Speaker 1: is conservatives tended to be more religious than liberals, and

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Speaker 1: religious people give much more of their time and their

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Speaker 1: money than non religious people. By the way, religious liberals

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Speaker 1: give just as much as religious conservatives, they're just fewer

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Speaker 1: of them. And the second reason is a conservatives believe

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Speaker 1: that the needs of the need should be dealt with privately,

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Speaker 1: not through government, and they talked the talk and walk

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Speaker 1: the walk. So if you hear Jimmy Kimball's wife, her

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Speaker 1: reason for disliking Trump is he believes he and presumably

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Speaker 1: his voters don't care about the sick, don't care about

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Speaker 1: the poor, don't care about the elderly. Win In fact,

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Speaker 1: based on who's more generous with their time and with

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Speaker 1: their money, it is completely false. Bill Maher says he

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Speaker 1: may lose friendship with Jimmy Kimball over his willingness to

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Speaker 1: even talk to Trump supporters number ninety three.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to rage. I feel like I'm the

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Speaker 8: anti rager, even though I am very critical obviously of

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Speaker 8: both sides and love my job and doing that, but rage.

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to get the rage down and the mental

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Speaker 8: part down. And you know, I mean it's Thanksgiving. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, my message last week on our last show

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Speaker 8: this season, and every Thanksgiving really for the last five years,

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Speaker 8: has been I'm in the talk to them wing of

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Speaker 8: the Democratic Party. I'm not in the cut your people off, right,

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Speaker 8: don't cut them off. And you know I have friends

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Speaker 8: who you know, are not on that side of it

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Speaker 8: and didn't like what I said and.

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Speaker 10: They cut you off.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's such an interesting issue. One relationship is that's

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Speaker 8: in the balance. I mean, you know it was and

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Speaker 8: that's not a real friend like well, I mean we

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Speaker 8: weren't close. I mean, I'm talking to like it it

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Speaker 8: was Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, I said it publicly and

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Speaker 8: I liked Jimmy a lot. And his wife wrote that

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Speaker 8: thing that said, you know, she did lose family members.

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Speaker 8: She wrote them before the election and said, here's ten

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Speaker 8: reasons why you just can't vote for Trump. And then

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Speaker 8: some of them, you know, just didn't follow that. And

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Speaker 8: I was as kid gloves as I could, and I

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Speaker 8: see they're they're met at me, and I'm sorry. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I was being again as respectful as I could, but

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Speaker 8: I don't agree with that point of view. And since

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Speaker 8: she went public with it, it wasn't out of school

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Speaker 8: for me to go public with it. I love Jimmy,

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Speaker 8: I've always have. I don't know him that well, but

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Speaker 8: he's a great guy and we have a connection. Like

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Speaker 8: we were both fired by ABC and he took my

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Speaker 8: I had that time slot, so like, it's so interesting,

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Speaker 8: the same ABC, I mean, Disney executive Candice both. It's

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Speaker 8: interesting the connections, and so I hope we're friends forever.

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Speaker 8: But I don't know, you know, these the liberals and

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Speaker 8: the woke, that's a schism.

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Speaker 4: It just is.

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Speaker 1: This is where we are where Bill Maher It's perceived

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Speaker 1: to be courageous for just being willing to talk to

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Speaker 1: Trump supporters, just the very act of time talking to them.

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Speaker 1: He's compromising his friendship with Jimmy Kimball. He says, how

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Speaker 1: asinine is this? What did Jade Vance say? When you're

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Speaker 1: taking politics this seriously and you're ending friendships that you've

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Speaker 1: had for years. Although Bill Maher says he doesn't know

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimball that well. But a lot of people listening

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Speaker 1: banner at the very top. Thank you so much. Now,

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Speaker 1: this one drives me crazy, idea that just Republicans are

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Speaker 1: the ones who quote deny elections one fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Imagine yourself ever voting Republicans.

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Speaker 8: Of course, you know, but they would have to be

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Speaker 8: very different. I mean, they would have to certainly lose

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Speaker 8: the idea of we don't concede elections.

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Speaker 1: That have to lose the idea of we don't concede elections.

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Speaker 1: Every election presidential election since two thousand one by Republicans,

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Speaker 1: Democrats have attacked the electoral process and try to decertify

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Speaker 1: certain states. Two thousand, Supreme Court five to four stops

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Speaker 1: the Florida count January following gear during the certification procedure,

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Speaker 1: roughly ten House Democrats try to decertify Flora, which gave

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Speaker 1: the race to George W. Bush, claiming that the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court unlawfully stopped the count. To this day, al Gore

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Speaker 1: says had the Supreme Court not intervened, he would have

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Speaker 1: won that election. Studies have shown that's not the case,

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Speaker 1: but he still claims he was cheated. Fast forward two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four election, George W. Bush wins Ohio, without

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Speaker 1: which he would not have been reelected. That following January,

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Speaker 1: thirty House Democrats and the then Senator from California Barbara

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Speaker 1: Boxer try to decertify Ohio, claiming that the de bowled

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Speaker 1: voting machines have been tampered with, without which George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush would not have won Ohio. One of those who

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Speaker 1: joined that effort, by the way, was Benny Thompson. Minnie

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Speaker 1: Thompson is a chairman of the so called January sixth Committee,

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Speaker 1: claiming that Donald Trump had engaged in insurrection on January

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Speaker 1: sixth insurrection, So in two thousand four was he an

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Speaker 1: insurrectionist because he tried to desertify Ohio twenty sixteen election,

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Speaker 1: Democrats challenged more states nine than Trump did four years later,

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Speaker 1: And of course Hillary ran around for the four years

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Speaker 1: of Trump's first term referring to him as illegitimate, claiming

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Speaker 1: the election had been stolen. Did anybody accuse her of

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Speaker 1: being an election denier, of threatening the foundations of our republic?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams of course claim that because of voter suppression

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Speaker 1: she lost her gubernatorial election in Georgia. Fact check organization

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Speaker 1: found no evidence of it. Anybody call her an election denier?

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter said he believes the Russians put Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: in office in the twenty sixteen election and we talked

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Speaker 1: about this a bunch of times. J Johnson, Obama's DHS secretary,

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Speaker 1: said the Russians tried to change vote tallies in the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election, but they failed to change a single one. However,

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Speaker 1: a UGUV poll found sixty six percent of Democrats believe

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Speaker 1: the Russians quote changed vote tallies close quote in order

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Speaker 1: though Obama's DHS Secretary secretary testified under oath that that

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Speaker 1: didn't get the memo in regarding whether or not the

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Speaker 1: Russian interference, and there was interference, altered the outcome of

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Speaker 1: the election. Jay Johnson said he does not know. He'd

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Speaker 1: have to have a world where there was interference versus

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Speaker 1: one where there wasn't compared the twos, So if we

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Speaker 1: can't do that, it would just be speculation. I don't know. However,

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Speaker 1: a Gallup poll found that seventy eight percent of Democrats

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Speaker 1: believe the Russian interference altered the outcome of election. CNN

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Speaker 1: did a report. It found out that seventy six percent

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Speaker 1: of Republicans believed that there was widespread fraud in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty seventy six percent. So a lower percentage of Republicans

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Speaker 1: believe twenty twenty involve widespread voter fraud, then Democrats believe

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Speaker 1: that about twenty sixteen? Do we call Democrats voter deny?

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Speaker 1: So when I hear Bill Maher say, well, if I

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Speaker 1: old Republican, they're gonna have to stop this business about

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Speaker 1: not conceding elections. Did you feel that way about Hillary?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that way about what Jimmy Carter said?

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Speaker 1: You feel that way about sixty six percent of Democrats

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Speaker 1: that believe the Russians altered vote tallies when the DHS

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Speaker 1: secretary under Obama said they didn't alter a single one.

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Speaker 1: You feel that way when a greater percentage of Democrats

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Speaker 1: believed that was voter fraud in twenty twenty, then Republicans

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Speaker 1: feel about in twenty sixteen the Republicans feel about twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Why is it when Republicans expressed skepticism about an election,

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Speaker 1: they're called election deniers, accused of attacking our republic when

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Speaker 1: Democrats do it well, And the response is, well, Democrats

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Speaker 1: didn't storm the Capitol Building on January six, it's because

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Speaker 1: Democrats weren't in office, But don't tell me that Democrat

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Speaker 1: voters were not violent. Trump wins in November twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: there were protests all over America, including some violent. So

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Speaker 1: just a bit of a double standard, mister Moore. Hypocrisy,

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Speaker 1: selective outrage. Triple eight nine seven one sage, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about Oldkare Obamacare triple late nine seven one sage, triple

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one seven two four to three. A

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Speaker 1: new GAO report Government Accounting Office ordered by the Republicans.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if the Democrats had taken control of

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Speaker 1: the House, you think to be a report on fraud

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Speaker 1: and Obamacare, estimated to be twenty seven billion dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: Berndie Sanders says he's not a great supporter of Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: And the reason he's not a great support of Obamacare

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Speaker 1: is because he wants there to be a quote unquote

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Speaker 1: public option, in other words, seeing a payer one O

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Speaker 1: two one three.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: But he's a fraud. Yeah, but he's a fraud. That's

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Speaker 13: what he says. Now, what's there, Well, mister Trump may

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Speaker 13: have to explain to them why their prices are going

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Speaker 13: down when they're going to see a doubling in their premiums.

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Speaker 13: The reality is it is a disaster, uh, and it's

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Speaker 13: just another indication of the failure of our healthcare system. Look,

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Speaker 13: my own view is I am not a great supporter

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Speaker 13: of the Affordable Care Act, but I think we've got

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Speaker 13: to extend the tax credits because you cannot allow millions

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Speaker 13: of people are to see huge increases in their premiums.

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Speaker 13: But if we are able to do that, and I

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Speaker 13: suspect that you're right that we're not going to be

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Speaker 13: able to do that, we need to take the time

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Speaker 13: to ask ourselves a very simple question, why are we

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Speaker 13: spending twice as much per capita on healthcare as the

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Speaker 13: people of any other major country, all of whom managed

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Speaker 13: to provide healthcare all of their people as a right.

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Speaker 13: And the answer is, our current healthcare system is dominated

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Speaker 13: by the insurance companies and drug companies. They want more

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Speaker 13: and more money and profits. It is succeeding for them.

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Speaker 13: We need to expand Medicare, guarantee healthcare every man, woman,

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Speaker 13: and child. We can do that in a course of

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Speaker 13: effective way.

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Speaker 1: And you see, that's the kind of logic that causes

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Speaker 1: that we've talked about in the first hour of the show,

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Speaker 1: fifty one percent of likely voters under the age of

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Speaker 1: forty to want a Democrat socialist like Bernie Sanders to

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Speaker 1: become president. It would never cur to somebody like that

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Speaker 1: that all the problems he's talking about are because of

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Speaker 1: government involvement and health care. In the first place, here

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Speaker 1: is the late great Milton Friedman ninety seven.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to talk about the economics and medical care.

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Speaker 14: This is an area in which, as we all know,

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Speaker 14: there has been a trend toward ever greater government involvement.

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Speaker 14: The spending for the provision of medical care inevitably leads

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Speaker 14: to control over the fees that are charged.

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Speaker 4: For medical care, and it should if.

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Speaker 14: Government is going to spend money and ought to be

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Speaker 14: concerned with what it pays for what it gets. Control

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Speaker 14: over fees inevitably leads to control over the practices that

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Speaker 14: are followed, over the behavior of the medical personnel, and

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Speaker 14: if this trend continues, in inevitably leads to completely socialized medicine.

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Speaker 14: I believe that this trend, including many of the steps

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Speaker 14: that have already been taken, is very much against the

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Speaker 14: interests of patience, of physicians and of other healthcare personnel,

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Speaker 14: and in the brief time I have available today, I

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Speaker 14: want to explain why believe the trend is so much

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Speaker 14: against their interests, why it has occurred, and what, if anything,

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Speaker 14: can be done about it. The toward increasing government involvement

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Speaker 14: in healthcare is not an isolated phenomenon.

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Speaker 4: It is not restricted to healthcare.

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Speaker 14: It is part of a general trend in our society

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Speaker 14: toward replacing voluntary free market arrangements by government control and regulation.

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Speaker 14: It is a trend that is happening, happening all over

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Speaker 14: It has happened in one industry after another. There is

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Speaker 14: nothing special in this respect about the move to replacing private,

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Speaker 14: voluntary medical arrangements with compulsory governmental arrangements. This movement in

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Speaker 14: the medical care field is not special in another sense.

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Speaker 14: In industry after industry producers who protest most strongly their

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Speaker 14: belief in free markets have fostered and help produced government takeover,

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Speaker 14: government regulation.

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Speaker 4: Government control.

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Speaker 14: To begin with, a greater involvement of government in medicine

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Speaker 14: may seem to serve the interest of at least the

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Speaker 14: purveyors of medical care by providing an additional source of finance.

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Speaker 14: This is a hunting that has leded persons and industry

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Speaker 14: after industry to support and promote governmental involvement which has

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Speaker 14: reacted ultimately against I have been impressed.

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Speaker 14: Governmental involvement which has reacted ultimately against them. I have

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Speaker 14: been impressed again and again with how often businessmen leaders

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Speaker 4: Comes to their own activities and to.

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Speaker 14: Concerns within their enterpriduses, are very short sighted when it

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Speaker 14: to be led by small advantages to foster and favor

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Speaker 14: policies which ultimately redown very much to their disadvantage.

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Speaker 4: In the medical case, the initial inducement.

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Speaker 14: Is that here is a new source of money, and

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Speaker 14: presumably This is one organized medicine has been schizophrenic about

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Speaker 14: the trend toward government involvement. It has, on the one hand,

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Speaker 14: on the other hand, engaged in activities which have promoted

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Speaker 14: that development.

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Speaker 4: As the one.

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Speaker 14: The government is taking over any activity, there is more

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Speaker 4: But what typically happens.

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Speaker 14: Is once the government has taken it over, the situation changes.

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Speaker 14: There are no more votes to be gotten by taking

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Speaker 14: it over some more. You have to move on to

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Speaker 14: new fields and take over new areas in order to

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Speaker 14: get some new votes, and the result of that is

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Speaker 14: that those areas already taken over get starved, and instead

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Speaker 14: of there being more resources available, there are fewer. In

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Speaker 14: addition to the fact that the ultimate result of a

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Speaker 14: government takeover is less resources, you invariably get lower quality

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Speaker 14: in a lower quantity of medical care. I am going

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Speaker 14: to cite from a study that was made by a

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Speaker 14: British physician, doctor Max Gammon, who spent five years studying

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Speaker 14: the British Health Service. Mister Gannon, in a rather amusing way,

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Speaker 14: developed what he called a theory of bureaucratic displacement.

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Speaker 4: He argued that whenever you have any organization taken over by.

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Speaker 14: A bureaucracy like a government, what tends to happen is

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Speaker 14: that input goes up and output goes down.

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Speaker 4: That useless work tends to displace useful work.

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Speaker 14: In a further extension of Parkinson's laws, and he illustrated

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Speaker 14: it with hospital service in the United Kingdom. He took

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Speaker 14: the eight year period from nineteen sixty five to nineteen

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Speaker 14: seventy three. In that eight year period, the hospital staff

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Speaker 14: the number of people went up twenty eight percent. Incidentally,

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Speaker 14: administrative and clerical help went up forty one percent.

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Speaker 4: But what about out what about what they were producing?

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Speaker 4: Input was up? Well.

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Speaker 14: He measured output by the average number of beds occupied daily.

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Speaker 14: It turned out that the average number of beds occupied

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Speaker 14: daily went down by eleven percent, and he hastened to

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Speaker 14: the neighborhood of six hundred thousand people waiting for hospital beds.

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Speaker 14: I don't know how many of you know the scandals

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Speaker 14: as optional or postponable surgery, including for example, bypass operations

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Speaker 14: for heart problems. There are stories of people who waited

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Speaker 14: be postponed. Indeed, some of them managed to before the

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Speaker 14: Let me turn to Sweden. I quote from a report

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Speaker 14: able to pronounce a Swedish name, but it takes more

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Speaker 14: than physical connection. He's a professor of medicine at the

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Speaker 14: Karolinska Institute. He's a head of the department of medicine

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Speaker 14: at a major hospital in Stockholm. He formerly was, and

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Speaker 14: He gave a repaper in nineteen seventy six at the

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Speaker 14: a socialist country?

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Speaker 4: And I quote from his papers.

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Speaker 14: It is obvious that the existence of a competing free

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Speaker 14: element of quality that derives from patients personal preference for

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Speaker 14: and confidence in certain doctors cannot easily be done away

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Speaker 14: with so long as people are willing to pay for

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Speaker 14: a free choice of physicians. To do away with such

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Speaker 14: opportunities therefore has become a new goal of Swedish healthcare politicians.

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Speaker 14: The introduction of these various regulatory processes has resulted in

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Speaker 14: all levels of incompetence. The Board of Welfare I go

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Speaker 14: on Quoting has recently issued a sixty page book trying

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Speaker 14: to describe how to calculate the number of physicians needed

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Speaker 14: The book is a fascinating monument over the total absurdity

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Speaker 14: into which legislat, tours, administrators and trade union representatives have

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Speaker 14: has been one in which the patient has been the

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Speaker 14: and thus the one to prescribe the conditions under which

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Speaker 14: may not and will eventually not be restricted to working hours, salaries,

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Speaker 14: and certified drugs. They may invade the whole territory of

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Speaker 14: the patient's physician relationship. If the battle of today is

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Speaker 1: And what the Democrats want is not even Obamacare, which

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Speaker 1: much much worse, the Antwerp free market, more competition, fee

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Speaker 1: All of this and more. Mark is in l a

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Speaker 1: Mark always nice to hear from you.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Larry, can you explain to me why you have

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Speaker 10: not said anything criticizing Trump about saying those things about

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Speaker 10: the people in MISSOI allians, what did he say?

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Speaker 3: He called him dirt?

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Speaker 1: I think I think I think the word, I think

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Speaker 1: the word. I think the word was garbage, not dirt.

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Speaker 1: But he was referring to the one to commit crimes.

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Speaker 10: No, Larry, he was talking about him. All don't well?

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Speaker 1: Well, well, well, Mark, Mark, how many? How many of

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Speaker 1: them has he is he deported? Who are citizens?

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Speaker 4: He?

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Speaker 10: He can't deport them exactly?

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Speaker 1: So relax? What Mark, Mark?

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Speaker 14: Mark?

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Speaker 1: Have you? You've called the show a lot and I

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Speaker 1: really enjoy when you call. Have you ever criticized Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris for referring to President Trump as a fascist.

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Speaker 10: Well, for the record, Larry, I've never Likedala Harris as attorney.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm asking you. I'm asking you, not whether you

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Speaker 1: like her or not. Did you criticize the woman who

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Speaker 1: wanted to be president by calling another president a fascist?

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Speaker 10: Surprisingly? For you, yes, because I don't like the word.

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Speaker 10: I don't like any word like.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that Joe Biden referred to Macca supporters

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Speaker 1: as semi fascist. I'm assuming you feel the same way

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 10: Right, We're good, But what's your point?

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Speaker 1: My point is, if you are outraged by President Trump

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Speaker 1: referring to people that commit crimes in the Somali community

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Speaker 1: as garbage, I don't want him here. You should at

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Speaker 1: least be outraged by this constant referring to President Trump

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Speaker 1: as a Nazi, a fascist, a hitler by people on

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Speaker 1: your side. And I'm happy that you are because I think,

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Speaker 1: I think Mark, most people on your side don't say

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Speaker 1: a word about it. When Kamala Harris was asked by

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Speaker 1: Anderson Cooper, do you believe that that President Trump is

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Speaker 1: the fascist? She said yes. That should be jaw dropping

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Speaker 1: for people that are uh concerned about some of the

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Speaker 1: rhetoric that Donald Trump uses, as apparently you are. And

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Mark.

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Speaker 10: Sorry again, I know you like to read into what

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump says and clean it up for him. But

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Speaker 10: for one million percent, he never specismically said people who

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Speaker 10: commit crimes. He said, all the loans.

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Speaker 1: Get out, well, well, given, given, given, given that he

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Speaker 1: has not made any move to get all some aullions out.

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Speaker 1: Given that he's not made any move to deport them,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that he's referring to those who commit crimes. Now, now,

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Speaker 1: now does he does? He does? He speak as precisely

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Speaker 1: as as I do. He does not. That's who he is,

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Speaker 1: That's what he is. He says a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's why it's white noise. Mark. You shouldn't be bothered

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Speaker 1: by that kind of stuff. You ought to be bothered by,

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Speaker 1: uh by crime. You ought to be bothered by the

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Speaker 1: large number of illegal aliens that came into this country.

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Speaker 1: These are the kinds of things that ought to concern

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Speaker 1: you instead of whether or not Donald Trump has referred

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Speaker 1: to a community as garbage went. In fact, he's not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to deport any kind of citizen.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can't. I know we can't. He knows

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Speaker 1: he can't.

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Speaker 10: So if he said all black people would deserve to

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Speaker 10: go back to Africasm.

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Speaker 1: Well when he when he when he says that, you

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Speaker 1: call me and will address it.

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Speaker 15: Okay, I'm Larry Older, So let's.

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Speaker 1: Get her teed up. My triple eight nine seven one

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Speaker 1: of issues to get to between now and the close

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Speaker 1: of the program. Here is a letter I received from

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Speaker 1: Carter in Highlands Ranch, Colorado, subject bumper Music, Rich McConnell,

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Speaker 1: This might interest you. Good morning, Larry. I love your

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Speaker 1: show and listen to your podcast every day. You are

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Speaker 1: my continuing education for my conservative values. I grew up

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Speaker 1: in the sixties listening to listening to c k LW

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Speaker 1: motown in Windsor, Ontario. Your bumper music is the best

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Speaker 1: on the radio. I agree that the Tempts My Girl

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Speaker 1: is the best. Do you have a playlist of your

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Speaker 1: songs you can publish on your website? Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being such a great virtual friend and I consider you

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Speaker 1: the R word righteous, Signed Carter, mister mcconnald. Do we

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Speaker 1: have any plans on publishing a playlist on the website?

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Speaker 1: So the answer is it would be very long lists.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps we ought to ask Chris. Yeah, he's too new

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Speaker 1: to say no. Well, we'll look, we'll look into it.

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Speaker 1: We'll put it under advice on how's that okay? Triple

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one S A G. Is the number

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Speaker 1: of number You've been waiting for quite a while. Ruben

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Speaker 1: is in La Ruben, you're on the Lario to show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for calling. I appreciate it. Hello, Larry,

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Speaker 1: Hey Ruben, how are you?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Fine? Thanks to you. I met you a long time

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Speaker 16: ago when I was working at Englewood Police Department. You

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Speaker 16: remember Rosie Brown.

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Speaker 1: Of course, big cop, big cop, good friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: character actor. He was a great, great guy.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, right, listen, I was just just listening to

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Speaker 11: your show and I heard the presentation you made in

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Speaker 11: regards to.

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Speaker 16: Was it dagger John correct that did his tremendous works

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Speaker 16: in New York helping turn young men around. I'd like

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Speaker 16: to get a copy of that to share with our

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Speaker 16: church board. We're looking for ways to do outreach to

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Speaker 16: help our community. Also. I'm seventh d Adventists and we're

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Speaker 16: in the Los Angeles South Central community lived rash right

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Speaker 16: around the corner from where you attended school over in

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Speaker 16: View Park. Oh yeah, and boy, that was a dynamite presentation.

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Speaker 16: I loved it, And if you could get your staff

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Speaker 16: to email it to me, I certainly would appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you stared with Ruben, stay on the line, don't

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Speaker 1: go away. Give me your email address, but in case

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Speaker 1: you want to just look it up online. It's called

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Speaker 1: How Dagger John Saved New York's Irish and it's in

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Speaker 1: the City Journal and it came out the spring of

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. But please make sure you leave your

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Speaker 1: email How Dagger John Saved New York's Irish City Journal,

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Speaker 1: Spring nineteen ninety seven. You reminded me though, of a

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Speaker 1: story Rubin you mentioned. Rosie was an Englewood cop and

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Speaker 1: also did a lot of character acting, and he and

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Speaker 1: I became very good friends. He is no longer with us,

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Speaker 1: and I knew I was having a connection because when

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Speaker 1: Rosie would arrest young people, he'd often give them a

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Speaker 1: lecture and try to tell them to straighten up and

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Speaker 1: what the consequences are going to be if they don't.

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Speaker 1: So he was lecturing some teenager about hard work and accountability,

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Speaker 1: and he said the teenager said to him, that sounds

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Speaker 1: like some of that Larry Elder bleep, except he didn't

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Speaker 1: use the word bleep. So I'm not quite sure that's

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Speaker 1: the reaction that I wanted. But at least people were

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Speaker 1: aware of the kind of thing that I was talking about. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the call, and we'll take

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Speaker 1: care of that. Melanie is in Kernersville, North Carolina. Melanie're

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Speaker 1: in the Larry O The Show. Thank you for calling.

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Speaker 17: Thank you, thank you so much for allowing me to speak.

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Speaker 17: I've been in healthcare for over forty five years. What

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Speaker 17: I'm witnessing now in the last several years is just

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Speaker 17: it would knock your socks off. And I mean, you're

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Speaker 17: watching what's going on in Canada with those socialized medicine,

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Speaker 17: are you? Is anybody listening to the Glenn Beck program.

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Speaker 17: We're trying to bring us thirty plus year old woman

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Speaker 17: down here so she can have surgery to keep her

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Speaker 17: life because they've offered her use in Asia on January seventh,

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Speaker 17: as opposed to having surgery that would save her life.

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Speaker 17: I mean, this is what our country is introducing. And

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Speaker 17: I take care of people every weekend. I have to

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Speaker 17: have one hundred and twenty interpreters in my little interpreter

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Speaker 17: thing to take care of all these illegal immigrants. And

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Speaker 17: our country we are at Our healthcare system is totally

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Speaker 17: at risk, and there's as opposed to all the fraud

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Speaker 17: in the country. It's going on in the healthcare system.

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Speaker 17: We have people that are waiting for hours and hours

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Speaker 17: and days to get surgery. But we know if we

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Speaker 17: put the illegal immigrant ahead of them, their bill is

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Speaker 17: going to get paid. I mean, and we'll just say

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Speaker 17: we'll send you a bill. And I'm telling you, the

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Speaker 17: system is so corrupt and our veterans, our veterans are

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Speaker 17: being so ignored and put aside, and that is such

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Speaker 17: a shame. It is so shameful. And if you go

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Speaker 17: to the veteran hospital, you wait four hours on a prescription,

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Speaker 17: no wonder, there's an officer sitting in the lobby waiting

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Speaker 17: for somebody to act out because there's PTSD And you

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Speaker 17: come back four hours later and the prescription is still wrong,

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Speaker 17: and they're not available after hours on weekends or holidays.

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Speaker 17: I mean, those veterans should be able to get their

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Speaker 17: care anyway. They show up and they need a toothpold,

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Speaker 17: or they need a tooth filled. You go in, you

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Speaker 17: show up, Oh well you're not active, do so we

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Speaker 17: can't take care of your dental needs. I mean, this

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Speaker 17: is ridiculous. Our veterans should have access to everything they

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Speaker 17: possibly need. I mean, I'm telling you. The healthcare system

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Speaker 17: is so corrupt, and our CEOs in these hospitals, they

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Speaker 17: have several houses, several cars, and they know that the

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Speaker 17: bills are getting paid by the government for all these

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Speaker 17: illegal aliens. And I send people home with paperwork. Oh,

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Speaker 17: we'll send you a bill, We'll give you free prescriptions,

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Speaker 17: we'll send you anything you need. You know, thank you

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Speaker 17: for coming, you know. I mean, the system is so corrupt,

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Speaker 17: and of all the things that are going on in

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Speaker 17: this government, our healthcare is the most fraudulent of all

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Speaker 17: of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, Melanie, thank you very much for that. I appreciate it. Look,

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Speaker 1: this is a study that was just done by the

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Speaker 1: Government Accounting Office. Twenty seven billion dollars a year and

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Speaker 1: fraudulent payments because of Obamacare. And here's what they did.

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Speaker 1: Created fake applicants. They created twenty fake applicants to apply.

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Speaker 1: Out of those twenty fake applicants, eighteen of them received benefits.

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Speaker 1: They did it again last year and one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: of the fake applicants receive benefits. Now, this is when

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Speaker 1: these people are applying with no documents or fake documents,

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Speaker 1: fake citizen documents, illegal immigrants applying in one case, one

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Speaker 1: Social Security number. The same number was used for over

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Speaker 1: a one hundred and twenty five policy. Let me say

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Speaker 1: that again, a single Social Security number was used for

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Speaker 1: over one hundred and twenty five policies. Nobody did anything.

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Speaker 1: So again, there were twenty fake applicants that were created

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Speaker 1: applying for suppedized coverage and the Center for Medicare and

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Speaker 1: Medicaid paid off. And what they want to do, the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: they want to keep it going. And I said this yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the same people that cheered when the CEO was murdered

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Speaker 1: by Luigi MANNGIONI. Why because he believes that healthcare insurance

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Speaker 1: companies like United Healthcare are greedy. So what does Chuck

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Speaker 1: Schumer want to do? Continue paying the same suppidies to

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Speaker 1: the same insurance companies for three more years. So you're

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Speaker 1: cheering the assassination of a CEO of a health insurance

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Speaker 1: company because a company is greedy, and the reason that

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Speaker 1: their stock has appreciated to the extent that they have

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Speaker 1: because of all the subpodies that you want to continue

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Speaker 1: to the same greedy company that you were upset with

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Speaker 1: when Luigi Mangione murdered the CEO. Does this make any

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Speaker 1: sense in the answer of course, its government should get

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Speaker 1: out of health care, whether it's Medicaid or medicare, all together,

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Speaker 1: all together, obviously more fraud and more abuse and more waste.

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Speaker 1: When it's not your money. When it's somebody else's money

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Speaker 1: on somebody else, you attract substantial amount of fraud. Private

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Speaker 1: sector whole different ballgame. But the left believes that healthcare

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Speaker 1: is a right and that economic one on one economics

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Speaker 1: one on one do not apply to healthcare. This is

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Speaker 1: where we are. Fifty percent of likely voters under forty

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Speaker 1: want a Democrat socialist to be president. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: I'm Larry Yelder.

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Speaker 18: Fails to extend the town credits. It increases costs, adds

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Speaker 18: tons of new abortion restrictions for women, expands junk fees,

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Speaker 18: and permanently funds cost sharing reductions. Their bill is junk insurance.

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Speaker 18: It's been repudiated in the past. The American people will

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Speaker 18: repudiate it once again because it is junk insurance that

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Speaker 18: puts the burden on people. We should call it what

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Speaker 18: it is. Misdirection, smoke in mirrors, the cover up. Blocking

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Speaker 18: the ACA tax credits that keep healthcare costs down. Our

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Speaker 18: bill keeps premiums down. Their chaos sends premiums up. Republicans

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Speaker 18: have forty eight hours to choose join Democrats and stop

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Speaker 18: the spike or stick millions of Americans with higher costs.

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Speaker 18: This is their last chance before January first, when the

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Speaker 18: American people have to pay these bills.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight ninetemb one seven two four three, Triple eight

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Speaker 1: nineteen one SAG. That, of course, was Senator Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 1: saying that the ACA, the Affordable Care Act, keeps costs down.

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Speaker 1: Even a Democrat Senator from Vermont said the ACA failed

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Speaker 1: to control costs. Now, I want to take a pause,

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Speaker 1: to take a moment to say thank you to everybody

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Speaker 1: who's already joined my Angel Tree Christmas campaign and to

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Speaker 1: invite the rest of you listening to chip end as well,

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Speaker 1: because of your generosity and that of other caring friends

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Speaker 1: who've gone to my website Larryelder dot com and clicked

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Speaker 1: on the angel Tree banner, meaning deserving boys and girls

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Speaker 1: will experience the joy of an angel Tree Christmas with

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Speaker 1: a Christmas gift, a personal note from his or her

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Speaker 1: parent in prison, and the good news of Jesus. This year.

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Speaker 1: Christmas is just a few weeks away, and if you

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Speaker 1: feel led, please consider giving to reach even more children

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Speaker 1: of prisoners. You'll bring the joy of Christmas to more

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Speaker 1: boys and girls who, through no fault of their own,

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Speaker 1: may be feeling lonely this time of the year. Just

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Speaker 1: listen to popular conservative podcast and economists Trish Reagan.

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Speaker 2: I have three little kids, and I was telling them

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Speaker 2: about the Angel Tree program and how important it is,

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Speaker 2: and this week especially, we should all just take a

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Speaker 2: moment to think how lucky we are. But what about

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Speaker 2: the little kids out there who don't even have a

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Speaker 2: parent right now because they have a parent that is

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Speaker 2: incarcerated in prison. And it's not the little kid's fault.

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Speaker 2: It's so important right now to the kids to meet

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Speaker 2: everyone here at Salem. We all want to do our part.

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Speaker 1: Won't you please do your part. My website again is

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Speaker 1: Larry Elder dot com. When you click on the Angel

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Speaker 1: Tree banner, your generous gift today will really help make

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Speaker 1: Christmas special. You can literally change a child's life for

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Speaker 1: Larryelder dot com and click on the Angel Tree banner

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Speaker 1: at the very top to help bless another deserving boy

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Speaker 1: James J and the Larry O the show, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for calling.

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Speaker 19: Oh how are you, Larry?

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Speaker 1: I'm well, sir, good good.

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Speaker 5: I'm calling a reference to Obamacare. I have a lot

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Speaker 5: of personal experience who had said it basically saved my

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Speaker 5: wife's life. When I met her, she had just gotten

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Speaker 5: enrolled and she had Blue Cross, but because of a

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Speaker 5: rare disease that she came down with to used up

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Speaker 5: her lifetime limits and became uninsurable. You know, with Obamacare,

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Speaker 5: your pre existent edishes didn't care, didn't count. So she

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Speaker 5: has she was able to go to UCSF until and

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Speaker 5: still today she has about five different doctors, neurologists, surgeon

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Speaker 5: and colleges. And I also, because I saw what it

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Speaker 5: had done for her, I got out into the community

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Speaker 5: and help enroll people into Obamacare. And to this date,

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Speaker 5: I don't know anyone personally that was not happy with

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Speaker 5: the insurance.

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Speaker 1: I have a number of responses to that. First of all,

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Speaker 1: we're in California. Even before Obamacare, there was already a

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Speaker 1: high risk pool for people who had pre existing illnesses.

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Speaker 1: Many states already had them, but more than that. And

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that your that your wife was able to

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Speaker 1: get her coverage. But there's lots of ways to skin

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Speaker 1: this cat uh, And there's no reason to believe that

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Speaker 1: but for Obamacare, there wouldn't have been something that would

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Speaker 1: have been done for people like your like your wife.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at the fraud, you look at

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Speaker 1: the abuse, you look at the fact that it's cost

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Speaker 1: far more than what the planners said that would cost you.

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Speaker 1: You could not keep your plan if you wanted your plan,

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Speaker 1: could not keep your doctor if you wanted your doctor.

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Speaker 1: It didn't bend the cost curved down. I can go

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Speaker 1: I can go on and on and on about all

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Speaker 1: the broken promises that were made. Obviously it helps some people.

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Speaker 1: The question is is that the best way of making

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Speaker 1: sure that healthcare is cheap, affordable with high quality, And

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Speaker 1: I say.

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Speaker 20: No, Well, I'm also at the age of Medicare, and

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Speaker 20: so am I so which I love.

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Speaker 5: I think is great.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, well, James, James, let's let's let's assume. Let's assume, however,

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Speaker 1: that you've been working a long time. Obviously you're retired.

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Speaker 1: Now let's assume instead of the money that you put

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Speaker 1: in Medicare you kept it. Instead of the money you

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Speaker 1: put in Social Security, you kept it and you invested

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Speaker 1: it over time. You'd have be better off. You've been

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Speaker 1: able to buy your own policy with the high aductible

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Speaker 1: and have money left over.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, I agree, but that doesn't work for everybody.

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Speaker 20: And maybe because I was thrifty, America has been very,

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Speaker 20: very good to me. I was able to achieve my

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Speaker 20: American dream because of my father. My father loved America,

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Speaker 20: flew our flag every day and said there is no

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Speaker 20: country in the world where he could have been born,

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Speaker 20: where he couldn't have been that where he could have

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Speaker 20: become as successful as he was.

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Speaker 1: I understand that, James, don't agree with I don't disagree

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Speaker 1: with anything you said. The question is, is Obamacare the

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Speaker 1: only way to achieve the kind of thing that you

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Speaker 1: and I want? And my answer is no. Now, if

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Speaker 1: we didn't have Obamacare and you kept the money that

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Speaker 1: you that we took out of your paycheck, you would

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Speaker 1: have done something responsible with it, because you're responsible. So

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Speaker 1: isn't the issue to encourage people to be responsible as

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Speaker 1: opposed to saying let's just make a bad system for everybody,

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Speaker 1: because there's certain people who are going to be irresponsible.

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Speaker 15: Oh of course.

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Speaker 20: But at that time, before I met, as I say,

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Speaker 20: my prison's wife, I was married to a doctor and she.

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Speaker 21: Had a hatred for insurance companies because they controlled everything.

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Speaker 21: And she used to say to me all the time,

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Speaker 21: you know, the uninsureds really had no value.

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Speaker 1: Well, also, James, the insurance company's got far more power

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Speaker 1: under Obamacare than they had before. That's why their stock

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Speaker 1: has gone up like crazy. That's why insurance companies, for

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Speaker 1: the most part, donate to Democrats far more than they

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Speaker 1: donate to Republicans. And I find it remarkable, as I

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Speaker 1: said earlier, the same people that celebrated the the murder

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Speaker 1: of that healthcare insurance ceo want the subpidies that made

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Speaker 1: ceo companies like that extremely wealthy. So you're happy that

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Speaker 1: the greedy companies got slapped down by the assassination or

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Speaker 1: the murder of the CEO. On the other hand, you

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Speaker 1: want those supodies to keep going that made the insurance

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Speaker 1: companies so rich. I don't get it. All I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is it's a better way of doing this, and the

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Speaker 1: better way is free markets. Triple eight nine seventy one Sage.

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Speaker 22: Any debate.

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Speaker 3: As to.

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Speaker 22: The success or failure of this economy related to how

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Speaker 22: it may be graded, the only question is whether the

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Speaker 22: American people would give it a DEF disaster or f

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Speaker 22: F failure. That's it. Nothing else. Our House Democrats are

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Speaker 22: going to continue to focus on driving down the high

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Speaker 22: cost of living, fixing our broken healthcare system, and actually

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Speaker 22: making life better for the American people. And we can

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Speaker 22: start by extending the Affordable Care Act tax credits. Time

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Speaker 22: has run out. Democrats have been pressing our Republican colleagues

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Speaker 22: four months to deal with the healthcare crisis that they

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Speaker 22: have created, and in a matter of just a few weeks,

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Speaker 22: tens of millions of Americans who live in every single

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Speaker 22: state across this country are about to experience dramatically increased

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Speaker 22: health care costs.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one Sage, Triple eight nine seven

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Speaker 1: one seven two four to three. Larry elder Salem News

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Speaker 1: Channel debt was Jakim Jeffreys, the Democrat leader in the House.

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Speaker 1: Notice that Obamacare is called the Affordable Care Act, but

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Speaker 1: we have a health care crisis because health care is unaffordable.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Obamacare, in twenty twenty four, seven thousand people

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Speaker 1: were dead before their coverage began. The Centers for Medicare

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Speaker 1: and Medicaid received two hundred and seventy five thousand complaints

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Speaker 1: in just eight months from Americans who were enrolled in

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Speaker 1: or we switched into plant without their consent, twenty seven

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Speaker 1: billion dollars a year in improper payments, all the promises

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Speaker 1: that were made. Bend the cost curved down false, save

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Speaker 1: the average family twenty five hundred dollars a year in

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Speaker 1: premiums false, keep your doctor false, keep your health care

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Speaker 1: plan false. Bend the cost curved down false false false false.

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Speaker 1: And what's the answer, Chuck Schumer says, extend the affordable

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Speaker 1: tax credits for three more years. Keep in mind, during COVID,

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Speaker 1: the numbers of people that were eligible were expanded supposedly temporarily.

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Speaker 1: Now the COVID crisis is over, but they want those

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Speaker 1: same elevated levels extended, and of course, the answer, as

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Speaker 1: I said a million times, is free markets. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know a single Republican other than Rand Paul who's

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Speaker 1: sang this because it's political suicide. You tell people that

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Speaker 1: we're going to alter the system so that you have

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Speaker 1: your own money and a savings account tax free, and

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Speaker 1: you can use it to buy a policy with a

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Speaker 1: high deductible, you will not win elections because the other

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Speaker 1: side is going to accuse you of attacking seniors, attacking

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Speaker 1: the disabled. Works every time. Joe Biden once even said

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Speaker 1: that said, at one time Republicans were opposed to Medicare,

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Speaker 1: and now they're not, but we still keep saying that

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Speaker 1: they're opposed to it, even though we know it's not true.

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Speaker 1: Senator Joe Biden even said that in one of those

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Speaker 1: unguarded candid moments. I remember when Geraldine Ferraro, the first

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Speaker 1: female vice president candidate, was running Democrats under Walter Mondale.

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Speaker 1: She was asked about the so called scheme to privatize

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Speaker 1: social Security and who invested in markets, and she said,

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Speaker 1: if you lack the knowledge and the wherewithal, you're out

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Speaker 1: of luck, meaning that she believes that Americans are too

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Speaker 1: stupid to be able to invest their own money. Not

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Speaker 1: too stupid to take on the biggest challenge you can

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Speaker 1: take on in your life, which is to have children,

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Speaker 1: but too stupid to be able to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to invest your own money. You look at things that

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Speaker 1: government and insurance carriers are not involved in, like facelifts

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Speaker 1: or hair grass or lasic surgery. Over the years gotten cheaper, better,

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Speaker 1: more affordable, more accessible. Why wouldn't that work for other

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Speaker 1: branches of health care as well? Triple eight nine seven

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Speaker 1: your calls, and Jasmine Crockett says, I'm looking off counting

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Speaker 1: Factor dot com. Tammy is in Glendale, Arizona. Tammy, You're

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Speaker 1: on the Larryolda Show.

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Speaker 23: Hi, Larry, love your show.

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Speaker 19: Thank you a great guy, good team on there.

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Speaker 23: I just wanted to tell you that a few days

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Speaker 23: after nine to eleven, I was working in the badging

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Speaker 23: office in the state capitol building down in the basement,

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Speaker 23: and so the hallway was just packed with state employees

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Speaker 23: trying to get their badges, and Jane Hole and her

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Speaker 23: people came along and made everybody clear the hall so

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Speaker 23: she could get on the elevator. It must be a

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Speaker 23: female governor being in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: She's Republican, too, wasn't she.

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Speaker 4: I remember it was a very nice Yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Pretty sure she's Republican. Thank you for the call. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Dan is in Omaha. Dan, you're and the

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Speaker 1: Larry Oda Show.

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Speaker 19: Hy, Larry Hey, Dan, good to see you again, you too, Okay.

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Speaker 19: Here in nineteen sixty nine, my fifth grade teacher told us,

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Speaker 19: don't worry, We'll never have a nuclear war. It will

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Speaker 19: be a slow takeover. Now, you just showed a deal

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Speaker 19: where all these people think we should have a communist president.

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Speaker 19: That group of people should be sent to China for

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Speaker 19: a two year learning curve deal. And see how they

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Speaker 19: come back and say we should still have a communist president.

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Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, they use the term democrat socialists,

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Speaker 1: and you and I won't think there's much of a difference,

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Speaker 1: but that was a term that they responded to. Fifty

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Speaker 1: one percent of likely voters under forty say they want

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Speaker 1: a Democrat socialist to be president in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 12: Right, you can promise, oh, hey, we'll take care of everything.

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Speaker 12: We're even going to pay off your credit card debt.

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Speaker 12: And once you voted that guy in, do you think

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Speaker 12: you're ever going to getting back out?

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Speaker 1: Nope. No, when you when you rob Peter to pay Paul,

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Speaker 1: you can always count on the support of Paul. The

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Speaker 1: reason I make a distinction between a Democrat socialist and

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Speaker 1: a communist is because of communism, to me, is done

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Speaker 1: by point of bayonet, by the sword, by the barrel.

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Speaker 1: These are people in New York City, for example, who

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Speaker 1: have voluntarily gone to the voting booth or fell out

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Speaker 1: their ballid application and voted for a Democrat socialist and

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Speaker 1: surrendering their freedom voluntarily, which is exactly what this is

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Speaker 1: telling a landlord he or she cannot charge fair market value,

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Speaker 1: freezing the rents and therefore forcing a bunch of people

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Speaker 1: who won't be able to make a profit and to

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Speaker 1: make a decision to leave the apartment vacant or get

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Speaker 1: ripped off, so they just leave it vacant. And as

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Speaker 1: I said at the top of the show, if you're

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Speaker 1: just now joining us, A Rasmussen poll found that fifty

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Speaker 1: one percent of likely voters under the age of forty

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Speaker 1: want a Democrat socialist to be president. In twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: seventy two percent of Democrat likely voters under the age

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Speaker 1: of forty want a Democrat socialist to be president. Twenty

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Speaker 1: four percent of Republican likely voters under forty two. This

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Speaker 1: is an absolute scary scenario that so many young people

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Speaker 1: believe that the things that they want can be obtained better, faster,

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Speaker 1: more cheaply with good quality by government intervention as opposed

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Speaker 1: to people competing to please their fellow man, which is

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Speaker 1: what capitalism really is. Rain is in Melbourne, Florida. Rain

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Speaker 1: in the Lario to show.

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Speaker 24: Hey, Larry, I hope you have a merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: And you as well, thank you.

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Speaker 24: I just wanted to mention about the Blue States and

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Speaker 24: I just saw that politician you had up there and

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Speaker 24: how he was trying to manipulate his audience about the

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Speaker 24: state taxing and all this and saying, oh, we need

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Speaker 24: a better life for everyone when they're the ones raising

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Speaker 24: all the state taxes. And I guarantee that they took

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Speaker 24: all the food stamps away from the people or actual

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Speaker 24: citizens who are actually using them and giving them to

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Speaker 24: the undocumented people to keep them fed, to keep them,

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Speaker 24: you know, in line, so they can continue to use

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Speaker 24: them people while they have our own citizens supper. So

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Speaker 24: they need to get their factorate sublime to the people

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Speaker 24: and use an emotional manipulation.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 11: Rain.

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Speaker 1: And remember the big beautiful bill rooted out waste, fraud

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Speaker 1: and abuse in the Metacaid program. And if you're forty

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Speaker 1: years old, childless, no disability, that require you to work

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Speaker 1: twenty hours a week. And they screamed like scalded kittens.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats did and did not support that bill. Now

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Speaker 1: let's turn to a little bit more of the Trump

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Speaker 1: derangement syndrome. The governor of Illinois just signed the bill

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Speaker 1: providing greater protections against deportation if you're an illegal alien.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he said, one oh eight, you're.

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Speaker 25: An intimidation have been visited upon us by fellow Americans.

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Speaker 25: It's unconstitutional. It's not the Illinois or the America that

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Speaker 25: I know our nation is better than this. Standing here

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Speaker 25: today with friends and neighbors, small business people, advocates, community activists, partners,

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Speaker 25: and government and the General Assembly, I'm here today to

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Speaker 25: sign into law an expansion of legal protections for the

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Speaker 25: people of Illinois. Together, we're sending a message to Donald Trump,

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Speaker 25: to Christy Gnome, to Gregory Bavino, and anyone else seeking

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Speaker 25: to terrorize our people. Your divisiveness and your brutality are

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Speaker 25: not welcome here.

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Speaker 1: Seeking to terrorize our people? Does your people include illegal aliens,

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Speaker 1: including and especially violent illegals. Why do you need protections

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Speaker 1: for your people if they're here lawfully. What he's doing

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Speaker 1: is protecting those who are here unlawfully, particularly the worst

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Speaker 1: and the worst, which is what Donald Trump is prioritizing.

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Speaker 1: And again, the people that are most hurt by illegal

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Speaker 1: aliens are the very black and brown people living in

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Speaker 1: the inner city with high school or less against whom

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Speaker 1: they compete for jobs and the presence of illegal aliens

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Speaker 1: puts down with pressure on their wages. And these are

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Speaker 1: the people who are supposed to be on your side. Now,

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Speaker 1: got a question for you. Ever been in a bad relationship?

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Speaker 1: Do you know the kind It just wears you down.

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Speaker 1: You settle in, even though deep down you know this

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Speaker 1: isn't how it's supposed to be. Well, that's what daily

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Speaker 1: aches and pain can feel like. You stopped expecting to

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Speaker 1: feel good. You start thinking, well, maybe this is just

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Speaker 1: my life now. It is what it is, but it

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Speaker 1: dealing with debilitating pain and fatigue. I've been taking Relief

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Speaker 1: running my business, fishing, gardening during the things that really

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Speaker 1: matter to me. And I told you about Kirk had

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Speaker 1: difficulty going up and down the stairs in the morning.

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Speaker 1: four to three. Larry Elder sail on the news channel, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: is it rancho kokomonga? Kevin, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: holding on so long. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Hey learn well, I'm in and then I'm home.

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Speaker 15: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I have a question an advertisement for the tax credits

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Speaker 3: to keep the cost for right, And that's exactly what

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Speaker 3: the Democrats. I assume the tax credit is different. Can

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Speaker 3: you explain that because the tax credit is a tax credits,

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Speaker 3: so it's kind of it's it's a little money.

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Speaker 1: It is money. It is money, Kevin. The term I

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Speaker 1: prefer is suppodes. This is money given to insurance companies

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Speaker 1: that they're supposedly supposed to use to lower the cost

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Speaker 1: for their people that subscribe to them. So I prefer

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Speaker 1: the term suppidy as opposed to tax credits. And here's

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Speaker 1: the deal. As you know, because of the way Obamacare

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Speaker 1: was designed, these suppides are tax credits expire, which will

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Speaker 1: cause premiums to go up pretty dramatically. And the question is,

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Speaker 1: in the real world, what are Republicans going to do

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Speaker 1: about that? If they go up substantially, they're going to

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Speaker 1: get slaughtered in the midterms. Everybody knows that. On the

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Speaker 1: other hand, if you continue them, that means the waste,

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Speaker 1: the fraud, and all of the cost of Obamacare continues.

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Speaker 1: So what I suspect will happen is that Republican that fact,

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Speaker 1: they've already proposed a plan to first roll back the

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Speaker 1: submedies that were increased during COVID that Biden did, and

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Speaker 1: then give money directly to taxpayers, to the people that

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Speaker 1: subscribe to healthcare, that put in a healthcare account that

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Speaker 1: they can use to buy a policy of their own.

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Speaker 1: That's what the Republicans have gotten behind pretty much, and

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Speaker 1: they need to have sixty votes. I'm not sure they're

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Speaker 1: going to get sixty votes. So I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. All I know is this Obamacare was

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Speaker 1: a neutron bomb dropped on this country. I read you

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Speaker 1: the article that I wrote back in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: nine where I said, right now, it looks like it's

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Speaker 1: quote unquote affordable because they have backloaded it so the

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Speaker 1: expenses are near the end and not the beginning. That's

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Speaker 1: why they got that positive Congressional Budget Office score as

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Speaker 1: it's called, but it didn't control costs. I knew it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't control the costs. I said it wouldn't. But by

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Speaker 1: the time the bill came due, Obama would be long

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Speaker 1: out of office, and he's now long out of office.

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Speaker 1: And then the American people, some of them would be

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Speaker 1: getting Obamacare, like the gentleman who called earlier and said

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Speaker 1: his wife was alive because of it. So you're going

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Speaker 1: to have a constituent people that are now benefiting from it.

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Speaker 1: That will create a class of people that people will

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Speaker 1: be reluctant to turn against. And it means one more

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Speaker 1: giant leap towards what the Democrats have always wanted, which

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Speaker 1: is single payer, which is exactly what Ronald Reagan want

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Speaker 1: and against. In that clip we paid we played where

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Speaker 1: he spoke about this back in nineteen sixty one. The

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Speaker 1: answer its free markets. What Republicans are going to have

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Speaker 1: the courage to say that, I'm Larry Older?

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Speaker 7: What can I say, mamau, But Michael has been dropped

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Speaker 7: all across America.

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Speaker 4: That's enough.

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Speaker 1: Put down the micro The Larry Elder Show