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Speaker 3: All Right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's March twelfth,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. Welcome, Blake, Howdy, lots to get to

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start off with a guest here right at

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Speaker 3: the top of the hour, and that's Stuart Kaplan. He's

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Speaker 3: report that suggests the Irani regime could target California with drones.

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Speaker 3: That's right, a drone attack off America's West coast, and

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Speaker 3: so we need some experts to help us break this down.

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Speaker 3: So welcome to the show, Stuart Kaplan, former FBI agent.

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's an honor to have you. Let's go ahead

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Speaker 3: and play one of these clips here just to set

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Speaker 3: ABC report cut nine.

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Speaker 5: The FBI warning of possible Iranian drone attacks on our homeland.

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Speaker 5: A new alert reviewed by ABC News revealing Iron's aspirations

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Speaker 5: to conduct a surprise attack specifically against unspecified targets in California,

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Speaker 6: The alert that we reviewed said an uncorroborated report suggested

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Speaker 6: this separate alert that we've reviewed Kira says that Iran

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Speaker 3: All right, So Stuart, what are you hearing? What's separate

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Speaker 7: So let me give you some unfortunate facts and a

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Speaker 10: Do you buy that, Stuart, You know, in fairness and

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Speaker 7: Because the United States has flexed finally its muscle to

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Speaker 4: It would be way too late.

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Speaker 4: Now. I'm not trying to be an alarmist.

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Speaker 7: You've asked me a question, and in fairness to your

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Speaker 3: to be clear, no such threat from Iran to our

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Speaker 11: An alarming report of threats outside Iran. ABC News reports

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of going back and forth that

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Speaker 13: They have to keep the strait of Hormos open. Yes,

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Speaker 13: I don't care what it costs. If they can't keep

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Speaker 12: All right, so I feel like we should probably explain

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Speaker 14: I'm not sure if we ever.

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Speaker 12: So if you look at a map of the Middle East,

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Speaker 12: And so Iraq is right at the end of that gulf.

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Speaker 14: Through and Iran.

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Speaker 12: You know, they can't hopefully they can't easily hit the

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Speaker 12: which we're sinking boats to lay mines, but submarines can

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Speaker 3: They might have big challenge to.

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Speaker 14: You have rockets.

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Speaker 12: And if you want to know how difficult it is,

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Speaker 14: Be able to keep that closed.

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Speaker 12: And I think we should be frank with you that

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Speaker 14: Only then can he say is it a win?

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Speaker 3: Supreme leader, a gentleman that we're told his name much

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Speaker 3: Taba KAHMANI all right, the.

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Speaker 14: Son of the previous?

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Speaker 3: Yes, how many?

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Speaker 12: But he's besides that, it's he's kind of a cipher

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Speaker 12: in truth. In fact, we don't we said that that

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Speaker 12: was that first statement he'd given, but that you didn't

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Speaker 12: see it t say it. We don't know if he's injured.

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Speaker 12: We don't know if he's a vegetable, We don't know

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Speaker 12: if he's alive. He could I mean, we've blown up

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Speaker 12: a lot of the Iranian leadership, so it could be

448
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Speaker 12: very handy to have this symbolic leader that we know

449
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Speaker 12: nothing about, and then someone else is able to call

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Speaker 12: the shots without getting blown up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And here's the problem is that he, in theory,

452
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Speaker 3: could be more hard lined than his father. So he's

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Speaker 3: fifty six year old son of the late Ali Komeni,

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Speaker 3: Arond's longtime Supreme Leader, who was assassinated on the first

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Speaker 3: day of these strikes. He was picked as successor by

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Speaker 3: the Assembly of Experts in a quick election March third

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Speaker 3: to the eighth, twenty twenty six, so just just a

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Speaker 3: few days ago, and he's the That makes him the

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Speaker 3: third Supreme leader since Iron's nineteen seventy nine revolution. All right,

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Speaker 3: so before this much Taba Mataba never held an official

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Speaker 3: government job, but apparently he was known for pulling strings

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Speaker 3: behind the scenes, in the shadows. He has he ever

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Speaker 3: held the government job. I don't know he's ever given

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Speaker 3: a public speech. Yeah, he apparently is reported. Again, these

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Speaker 3: are some of this we just don't know. As Blake said,

466
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Speaker 3: he's a bit of a cipher, but some reporting indicates

467
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Speaker 3: that he is long held deep ties, deep connections within

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Speaker 3: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard the IRGC through his father's office.

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Speaker 3: He was a mid mid ranking cleric who's been whispering

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Speaker 3: in the ears for years. That's how it's been put.

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Speaker 3: He allegedly got hit in the leg during the same

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Speaker 3: strike strikes that killed his father. According to Israeli officials,

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Speaker 3: he's been m i a from public views since becoming

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Speaker 3: leader of March eighth or ninth, no video appearances yet.

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Speaker 3: This was the first public statement that had been attributed

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Speaker 3: to him. Again, we don't even know if he said it.

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Speaker 3: There's been cardboard cutout AI videos going all over the

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Speaker 3: internet of this guy is kind of a meme, a

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Speaker 3: joke that we've never seen him. And you know, if

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Speaker 3: this is to be believed that, yeah, there's the cardboard cutout.

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Speaker 3: If this is to believe be believed that this was

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Speaker 3: in fact a statement from him, then we see that

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Speaker 3: he is doubling down, he is not shrinking back. And

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Speaker 3: so I think that we have to be honest about

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Speaker 3: the fact. As Blake said a full circle moment here,

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Speaker 3: that if you cannot open the strait of Hormus, this

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Speaker 3: will be a long drawn out conflict that you cannot

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Speaker 3: simply declare victory and get out of.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and so we just kind of offer some big

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Speaker 12: picture perspective. There's a lot of back and forth. First

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Speaker 12: of all, anything you see online, remember most of it's fake,

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Speaker 12: Huge amounts of AI stuff, huge amount of just made

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Speaker 12: up stuff, unverified claims. Remember, there's gonna be people claiming

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Speaker 12: we have one hundred percent one and there's people claiming

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Speaker 12: we've already lost, and neither is true. Remember President Trump

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Speaker 12: said he had about a four to five week plan

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Speaker 3: Even and we're.

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Speaker 12: Basically one third of the way into that, there is

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Speaker 12: a lot that can still happen.

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Speaker 3: Yep. And he said, by the way, all the messaging

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Speaker 3: from Secretary of War Pete heg saith President Trump is

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Speaker 3: So Pete hag Seth is aware of this, and he

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Speaker 3: went hard actually when asked about the Strait of her moves.

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Speaker 3: UH spelled s t R A T no g H.

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Speaker 12: Well, we know when we declare victory, maybe we'll rename

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Speaker 12: it the Gay of Horror moves.

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go, Cut two.

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Speaker 15: I would reiterate also to add what the Chairman said

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Speaker 15: the truth. The President posted last night about that, saying,

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Speaker 15: if Ron does anything to stop the flow of oil

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Speaker 15: within the Strait of Horror moves, they will be hit

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Speaker 15: by the Night States of America twenty times harder than

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Speaker 15: they have been hit thus far. He goes on to say, death,

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Speaker 15: fire and fury will rain upon them. You've seen the

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Speaker 15: truth and read it, but he takes very seriously the

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Speaker 15: condition of that straits. We have capabilities that no other

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Speaker 15: nation on Earth has, and we're certainly working with our

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Speaker 15: energy partners across the Administration to control for that. That's

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Speaker 15: part of that scoping of this. The world needs to understand,

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Speaker 15: this doesn't have this isn't intended to be nor is

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Speaker 15: it something that will Expand we know exactly what we're

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Speaker 15: attempting to achieve here sculped properly and the American people

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Speaker 15: can count on that for sure.

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Speaker 3: All right, So, Blake, you were talking to some naval

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Speaker 3: experts and some shipping experts about this. We're actually lining

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Speaker 3: up some guests on that front there, so we got

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Speaker 3: We know that the IEA agreed to release four hundred

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Speaker 3: million barrels of reserved oil across the across the world

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Speaker 3: to help with supply. On the supply side, we know

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Speaker 3: that there is ships in the Strait of Horror Moves

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Speaker 3: that are too scared to move forward. Some of them

587
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Speaker 3: even got struck. There was fires. So we don't believe

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Speaker 3: that they have the ability Iran to take out these

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Speaker 3: tankers necessarily, but they could. And it's all about it's all.

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Speaker 12: About escalating risk and if you want to for those

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Speaker 12: of you who like history, this is also what happened

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Speaker 12: in the world wars.

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Speaker 14: How did Germany try to win World War One? World

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Speaker 14: War Two?

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Speaker 12: They had submarines, They surrounded Britain, they tried to sink

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Speaker 12: ships coming to Britain. And it's not that they had

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Speaker 12: to ship sink every single one. They had to endanger

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Speaker 12: them enough that civilian ship captains would not want to

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Speaker 12: sail their boats there. They would say, no thanks, I

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Speaker 12: don't want my boat to be in danger.

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Speaker 14: And that's what you have here.

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Speaker 12: Like frankly, you kind of see the point when President

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Speaker 12: Trump says that they should be braver. He's basically saying,

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Speaker 12: there's hundreds, maybe thousands of these ships. If you guys

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Speaker 12: tried to go through, they really can't damage or destroy

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Speaker 12: more than a fraction of you. But it's just an

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Speaker 12: where ships don't really want to take that risk. They

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Speaker 12: don't want to think I could be the one who

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Speaker 12: gets blown up for trying to do that. And there

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Speaker 12: have been ships that have gotten hit, they've taken damage.

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Speaker 12: There might be some people who've died from this. And

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Speaker 12: if they're able to slow it up enough, the entire

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Speaker 12: global economy sort of grinds to a halt.

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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, President Trump has a clipout. I don't think

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Speaker 3: we have it loaded, but he essentially says they need

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Speaker 3: to be more crazy. I think they should go through.

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Speaker 3: They can't stop them. And there is a story of

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Speaker 3: a crazy Greek.

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Speaker 14: Yes, I was reading.

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Speaker 12: There was a thread on x about what ships have

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Speaker 12: gone through, and apparently there is a highly risk taking

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Speaker 12: Greek admiral who are an admiral a ship owner who

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Speaker 12: he's maybe done this with the Red Sea too, where

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Speaker 12: he says, let's run it through. I think we'll turn

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Speaker 12: off our transponders. So it's harder to spot these ships

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Speaker 12: go through at night and just risk it. But another

627
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Speaker 12: aspect that's made this complicated. For example, there are civilian

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Speaker 12: Iranian ships that actually are still sailing through the straits.

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Speaker 12: We're not sinking them. There are apparently there are Chinese

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Speaker 12: ships that go through and they basically just loudly broadcast

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Speaker 12: this is a Chinese ship and they assume iron will

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Speaker 12: not take a shot at them, and they haven't. Right,

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Speaker 12: And so it's not that it's totally closed. It's that

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Speaker 12: some ships are able to go through, are allowed through.

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Speaker 3: But if you are looked at as part of the

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Speaker 3: American allied or the sort of establishment oil industry that's unsanctioned,

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Speaker 3: then you're getting hit now. Also, we should note that

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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia has Beguinn routing. They have a they do

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Speaker 3: have a pipeline to get through the Red Sea, so

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Speaker 3: they are routing.

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Speaker 12: That there's a lot of alternatives. A lot of these

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Speaker 12: countries along the Gulf are not they're not super friendly

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Speaker 12: with the Saudis, a Qatar and the Saudi Arabians for example,

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Speaker 12: or famously don't get along that well and Qatar can't pipeline,

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Speaker 12: or they'll probably not want to pipeline through Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 14: And I wonder if.

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Speaker 12: This were to go on long enough, you might see

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Speaker 12: President Trump trying to forcibly impose more cooperation among these

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Speaker 12: countries and saying, you guys need to work together to

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Speaker 12: get through this crisis. And they've all been shot at

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Speaker 12: by Iran, so yeah, that might get them all more

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Speaker 12: eager to cooperate.

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Speaker 3: Now, the reports to indicate that there is a lot

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Speaker 3: of cooperation actually within the Arab world at this point.

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Speaker 12: If you want a white pill about this conflict, it's

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Speaker 12: that Israel and then all of the Sunni Arab states

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Speaker 12: have gotten shot at by Iran, and that could be

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Speaker 12: in the long run a way that you go towards

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Speaker 12: all of them papering over past differences. They've all been

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Speaker 12: attacked by this same rogue state, and that can potentially

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Speaker 12: maybe that leads to all of them signing the Abraham Accords,

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Speaker 12: all of them having a long term piece steal, you know,

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Speaker 12: match that up with Gaza Sea's fire stuff and rebuilding

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Speaker 12: that that would be an optimistic take, and we want

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Speaker 12: to flag those optimistic takes because there is a lot

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Speaker 12: of doomerism out there. There's a lot of frustration, and

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Speaker 12: we should point towards upside potential opportunities as well as

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Speaker 12: potential has well.

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Speaker 3: What you're seeing this conflict devolve into is that Iran's

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Speaker 3: military might could never withstand the US Israeli joint military.

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Speaker 3: That was never going to happen. What this could devolve

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Speaker 3: into is more of a guerrilla war type situation where

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Speaker 3: they use just the fear and uncertainty of passing through

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Speaker 3: the Strait to really bog down energy markets, which is

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Speaker 3: the long term issue. Then you see the new Supreme

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Speaker 3: Leader going underground, not coming out because if he comes out,

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Speaker 3: he's going to get killed. Israel has already basically said

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Speaker 3: we intend to kill him. And that is another front

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Speaker 3: on this whole Iran war that we need to keep

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Speaker 3: our eye on is that the objectives of the US

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Speaker 3: and Israel could be divergent. Right. Israel wants to see

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Speaker 3: complete regime change. I think President Trump is a little

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Speaker 3: bit more pragmatic, realizes that if this keeps dragging on

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Speaker 3: for too long, that he's going to want to pull

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Speaker 3: out into clare victory. But again you have to assume

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Speaker 3: that no regime change has ever been successfully accomplished through

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Speaker 3: only aerial assaults. So that brings us to carg Island. Now,

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Speaker 3: carg Island is another piece of this puzzle. So carg

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Speaker 3: Island sits off the coast of Iran. It's been described

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Speaker 3: as there it is, there's a picture of it. It's

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Speaker 3: been described as the cast register of Iran. This is

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Speaker 3: where their oil ultimately sort of goes and then it

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Speaker 3: gets loaded onto tankers and then shipped usually to China basically.

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Speaker 3: And so the question is are we going to use troops?

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Speaker 3: Are we going to use special forces? That carg Island

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Speaker 3: is a very important piece to this puzzle. If you

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Speaker 3: were to put troops on that island, could you hold it,

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Speaker 3: would you be able to protect them? Would they be

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Speaker 3: sitting ducks? But you could essentially cut off their oil

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Speaker 3: flow and increase pressure on the Iranian regime, on the

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Speaker 3: economy of Iran, to force potentially regime change pretential protests

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Speaker 3: in the streets. If you just occupied that, I.

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Speaker 12: Feel that is that I feel is a very dangerous

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Speaker 12: set of words, like, oh it starts off, just occupy

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Speaker 12: this little island.

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Speaker 3: I totally send in little squads to do. But it's

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Speaker 3: on the table. You better believe it's on the tables.

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Speaker 3: I think, I think you could.

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Speaker 12: There is certainly a defensible case a few limited raids,

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Speaker 12: a few tiny groups of guys. It's not the same

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Speaker 12: as big boots on the ground taking Tehran and all

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Speaker 12: of that. It's not the same as a ground invasion.

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Speaker 12: That's subjectively true, but it is Each of those little

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Speaker 12: stecrimental steps leads you towards something that certainly Charlie warned against.

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Speaker 3: President Trump himself warned against all in the past.

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Speaker 12: Well, you just have to be no, we just have

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Speaker 12: to be very careful because there are certainly people out

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Speaker 12: there who would love to see a general ground invasion,

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Speaker 12: and I think we have to keep warning against that.

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Speaker 3: Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important.

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Speaker 3: Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or

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Speaker 3: a title. He chased truth through Hillsdale College's free online

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Speaker 3: courses he studied, the great works of the Classics, the

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Speaker 3: principles of the American Founding, and the life changing truths

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Speaker 3: of the Bible. Those ideas didn't just inform him, they

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Speaker 3: shaped his character, strengthened his convictions, and prepared him for

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Speaker 3: the challenges ahead of. One of the courses he took

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Speaker 3: was The Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale Professor doctor Justin Jackson.

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Speaker 3: This free online course explores the relationship between God and man,

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Speaker 3: toward reconciliation. It's a real college course, rigorous, thoughtful, and

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Speaker 3: for Hillsdale dot com. Learn Deeply, Lead boldly, carry it forward.

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Speaker 3: We are joined by the Great Miranda Divine. She is

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Speaker 3: a New York Post columnist as well as author of

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Speaker 3: The Big Guy, a new book that you got to

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Speaker 3: check out. Miranda, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 3: It's good to have you.

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Speaker 16: Thanks so much, Andrew. It's an honor to be with

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Speaker 16: you all.

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny, Miranda, I actually still am using

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Speaker 3: that charger that I stole from you. That that mobile charger.

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Speaker 3: It's baby blue. Have you ever seen me with a

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Speaker 3: baby blue mobile charger? It's Miranda, Miranda Devine's fault. Anyways,

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Speaker 3: thank you for that. It was it was a gift.

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Speaker 3: It was a gift I stole because I was in

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Speaker 3: a bind and you were very sweet and you said,

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Speaker 3: here take this. So Miranda, I woke up this morning

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Speaker 3: to social media showing me all these images of what's

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Speaker 3: happened to Gracy manch I. I do not have a

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Speaker 3: memory of Gracie Mansion ever being this much in the news.

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Speaker 3: First there was the IEDs that the media falsely reported

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Speaker 3: were targeting the mayor and actually they were targeting anti

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Speaker 3: Muslim protesters up front of the mansion. And now we

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Speaker 3: see that it's been turned into essentially an if tar

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Speaker 3: a celebration, I guess a Ramadan related celebration, Muslim celebration.

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Speaker 3: Let's just go ahead and play one of these clips

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Speaker 3: for you. This is mayor Mom, Donnie speaking some language.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure which cut twelve that is America, that

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Speaker 3: is not Ai. Miranda, What what am I watching? What happened?

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Speaker 3: What's going on in New York? Please?

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Speaker 16: Well, I mean you're watching the takeover of the city

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Speaker 16: by a radical Islamist. He's not just a communist, he's

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Speaker 16: an Islamist. And it's not like he hid that from us.

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Speaker 16: I mean, just a couple of weeks before the election,

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Speaker 16: he tweeted out, very proudly a photo of him having

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Speaker 16: a lovely you know, meeting with a nine to eleven

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Speaker 16: imam or a guy who was an unindubted co conspirator

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Speaker 16: in the first World Trade Center attack, not not nine

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Speaker 16: to eleven, but still he was proud of it. It

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Speaker 16: wasn't anything that he is going to hide, and so

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Speaker 16: you can't say that voters didn't know what they were getting.

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Speaker 16: And then, of course, in his victory speech, he singled

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Speaker 16: out all the people that got him elected, which was

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Speaker 16: all the foreign born New Yorkers and people who've been

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Speaker 16: in New York for less than ten years. So you know,

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Speaker 16: anyone who's been who is a long term New Yorker

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Speaker 16: did not vote for them, Dani. So that's what we've got.

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Speaker 16: And since he's been in office, he's really I actually

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Speaker 16: I knew he was bad, but I thought, well, he'll

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Speaker 16: have to moderate because he's got to really be mayor

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Speaker 16: for the whole of New York and there are a

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Speaker 16: lot of business interests, and you know, surely he'll have

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Speaker 16: to moderate. But he has not done that. And the

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Speaker 16: perfect example was this last weekend when we had these

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Speaker 16: two alleged ISIS radicalized sympathizers because you'd call them who

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Speaker 16: young men who threw bombs id's and are filled with

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Speaker 16: shrapnel to cause maximum carnage into a group of protesters

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Speaker 16: outside Grace and Ancient. And you know, the first thing

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Speaker 16: named Danny does when he comes out is talk about

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Speaker 16: white supremacists and bigotry and racism has no place in

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Speaker 16: New York. And then finally he gets around to, oh,

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Speaker 16: you know, violence has no place like violence. It wasn't violence.

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Speaker 16: It was a terrorist attack. And thank goodness for the

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Speaker 16: NYBT Commissioner Jessica Tish because she came out and just

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Speaker 16: basically called him out by saying, very pointedly, let's not

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Speaker 16: be confused here. This was a terrorist attack by two

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Speaker 16: guys who swore allegiance to Isis.

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Speaker 3: Do you get the sense, Miranda, that New Yorkers are

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Speaker 3: way looking up to the reality of their Muslim mayor

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Speaker 3: that seems to have more allegiance to his own faith,

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Speaker 3: to his ethnic background than he does necessarily to the

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Speaker 16: More broadly, I'm not sure that anyone who wasn't already

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Speaker 16: woken up to it is woken up to it or cares,

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Speaker 16: you know, I mean the sort of the people. The

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Speaker 16: protest outside Gracie Mansion on Saturday was an anti Islam

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Speaker 16: protest run by this rubble rouser right winger Jake Lang.

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Speaker 4: Right, and.

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Speaker 16: And so the Isis guys came in to throw bombs

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Speaker 16: at him and his group, But there were there were

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Speaker 16: a whole bunch of sort of counter protesters there who

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Speaker 16: say everyone is welcome in New York, and they would

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Speaker 16: have been blown up just the same, but one of them.

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Speaker 16: You may have seen the guy with the megaphone, and

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Speaker 16: one of these terrorists reaches over and throws the bomb

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Speaker 16: over his head, and the megaphone guy looks quite surprised. Well,

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Speaker 16: he said, since oh, well, you know, I still think

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Speaker 16: that everyone is welcome. So I don't know how you

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Speaker 16: change leftist fesso ingrained in their ideology. They've been brainwashed

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Speaker 16: since the moment they set foot in their very elite

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Speaker 16: private schools in Manhattan. And they you know, they went

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Speaker 16: to universities, and I mean Columbia for instance, had the

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Speaker 16: big pro Hamas demonstrations that made every Jew in New

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Speaker 16: York feel in fear for their lives. And who does

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Speaker 16: Zora and Mamdani has for a special dinner on Sunday night,

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Speaker 16: just twenty four hours after the bomb outside his mansion,

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Speaker 16: Gracie Mansen he bombed, it didn't go off. I should

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Speaker 16: have run out.

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Speaker 17: He he has Mamud Khalil over, who was the pro

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Speaker 17: Hammers activist agitator who organized those protests and who's.

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Speaker 16: Born in Algeria. Is an Algerian citizen, it's not an

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Speaker 16: American citizen. And the Trump administration wanted to deport him

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Speaker 16: quite rightly, and you know, various judges, leftist judges have

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Speaker 16: got in the way. And he's become a cause celeb

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Speaker 16: for the left. And Mamdani treated him to this very

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Speaker 16: special dinner on Sunday night and tweet its photos of it.

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Speaker 18: To rub it in.

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Speaker 12: So obviously these symbolic acts are I mean, they're getting

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Speaker 12: a lot of attention and they definitely matter. Do you

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Speaker 12: have a sense what's the city feel like on the ground.

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Speaker 12: Are we seeing a surge of the disorder that makes

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Speaker 12: life less level? What's it like on the subway now

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Speaker 12: versus maybe a year ago? And where do you expect

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Speaker 12: that to go in the months to come.

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Speaker 16: There's the only sign so far has been that they

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Speaker 16: just seem to be more homeless on the streets. And

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Speaker 16: Eric Adams had done quite a good job of especially

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Speaker 16: I mean they're mostly mentally ill. They are all mentally

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Speaker 16: ill and or drug affected, and so Eric Adams had

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Speaker 16: sort of instituted this sort of rule where you could

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Speaker 16: take them off the streets involuntarily, because of course, if

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Speaker 16: you're drug affected or mentally ill, you're not going to

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Speaker 16: be thinking rationally. So but Mamdani came in and immediately

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Speaker 16: unwound that, with the result that the first big snowstorm

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Speaker 16: that we had, we had something like a dozen homeless

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Speaker 16: people froze.

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Speaker 3: On the street. I think it.

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Speaker 16: Right, Okay, some of the Mamdani goes, oh it was

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Speaker 16: drug overdoses, right, But I mean, they died and it

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Speaker 16: was because of his policies, and that's his version of compassion.

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Speaker 16: So and apart from that, he's completely inact when it

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Speaker 16: comes to the basics of being there, like plowing the

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Speaker 16: snow and fixing the potholes.

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Speaker 18: Police are responding to a scene in West Bloomfield for

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Speaker 18: an active situation shooters. Sources rather say an active shooter

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Speaker 18: this is located on Walnut Lake Road. So a live

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Speaker 18: look there thanks to our Fox TOWO Detroit helicopter as

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Speaker 18: we see that there is some smoke there from a

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Speaker 18: According to Fox two Detroit, there is a threat underway

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Speaker 3: All right, So we're joined by Miranda Devine breaking news.

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Speaker 3: A major scene reported at Temple Israel in Detroit, the

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Speaker 3: Detroit area, Bloomfield area. Smoke is seen pouring out of

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Speaker 3: the building. Several police vehicle spot around the perimeter the

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Speaker 3: Jewish Federation of Detroit has ordered all Jewish organizations to

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Speaker 3: go into lock out protocol Miranda. This seems to be

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Speaker 3: the latest in a series of I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you want to call them sleeper cells. We can only

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Speaker 3: so we can only guess at the motivation, but it

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Speaker 3: seems related to a lot of the violence that we've

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Speaker 3: seen since Iron situation is unfolded your.

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Speaker 16: Thoughts, Yeah, absolutely, And I mean where that synagogue is

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Speaker 16: in Detroit is the largest Jewish population in Michigan, so

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Speaker 16: it's well known West Bloomfield as being a Jewish neighborhood,

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Speaker 16: and of course Detroit itself larger metro Detroit has one

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Speaker 16: of the largest Muslim Arab American populations in America. So Dearborn,

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Speaker 16: which is the sort of ground zero of the Muslim

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Speaker 16: presence there, is about twenty miles away. So I mean,

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Speaker 16: you know, obviously it's too early to joining conclusions, but

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Speaker 16: it seems pretty obvious that this is a targeted attack,

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Speaker 16: and who has motivation to targets so especially I mean,

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Speaker 16: you know, Department of Farmeline Security has warned us that

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Speaker 16: the Iron Moore has raised the threat of sort of

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Speaker 16: lone wolf style attacks in the Homeland, and we've already

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Speaker 16: seen several of them, you know, the Austin, Texas shooting,

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Speaker 16: the guy wearing the run flag shirt and the Allery

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Speaker 16: is Great Tish hoodie, and then of course on the

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Speaker 16: weekend these Isis guys. I will say, though, the counterter

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Speaker 16: guy did point out about the weekend that those guys,

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Speaker 16: although the media made out that they were provoked into

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Speaker 16: you know, their their violent actions by the right wings,

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Speaker 16: white and white nationalists or whatever they were Jake Lang

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Speaker 16: protest protests, there's no way that they would have been

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Speaker 16: able to get organized in the time that that protest

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Speaker 16: took place, because he points out it would have taken

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Speaker 16: months to organize, to prepare the bombs, to buy all

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Speaker 16: the ingredients, and they had a storage locker with a

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Speaker 16: whole bunch.

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Speaker 17: Of bombs in it.

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Speaker 16: So this is this is sort of part of what

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Speaker 16: you would think that there whoever is orchestrating this, is

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Speaker 16: activating these cells.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that is an interesting question. If you know,

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Speaker 3: there was a report yesterday, I think we played a

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Speaker 3: Will Kine clip earlier in our one that said there

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Speaker 3: could be a potential trigger that Iran could put out

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Speaker 3: to trigger some of these these sleeper cells. But whether

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Speaker 3: it's a do it yourself lone wolf situation or a

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Speaker 3: trigger of IERGC members that slipped through the border under Biden,

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Speaker 3: the result is the same is that we have communities

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Speaker 3: living in fear. Especially as you I think aptly pointed out, Miranda,

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Speaker 3: that West Bloomfield, known Jewish community in Michigan, largest in

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Speaker 3: the state, twenty minutes away, twenty miles away from the

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Speaker 3: ground zero for the Islamification of America, right.

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Speaker 12: Right next to I mean, there's a very old Jewish

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Speaker 12: community in Detroit. It's been there a very long time.

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Speaker 12: More recently it's yeah, as you say, the center of

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Speaker 12: Islamic settlement in the United States. That's always caused some friction,

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Speaker 12: but it's really ramped up a lot.

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Speaker 14: Charlie warned about this all the time.

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Speaker 12: That there is a huge surge in just anti Semitism

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Speaker 12: and jew hatred in America. A lot of it is

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Speaker 12: coming from immigration, a lot of it's coming from the

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Speaker 12: left because it hates Israel a lot.

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Speaker 14: But also, let's be frank, some of it's also happened.

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Speaker 3: On the right.

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Speaker 12: And it's a recurring bugbear. It infects people's brains. They

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Speaker 12: ramble about it online and for some of the I

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Speaker 12: think some of them think it's just like funny, but

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Speaker 12: it's very lethal for a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Miranda, when you you know, obviously New York has

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Speaker 3: a huge Jewish community as well. You talked about the

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Speaker 3: way that the October seventh attack and the response from

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Speaker 3: universities like Columbia made the Jewish community feel unsafe in

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Speaker 3: New York. Have you heard from any of your Jewish

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Speaker 3: friends in the City of New York? I mean, how

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Speaker 3: are they reacting to what's going on in Iran? Are

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Speaker 3: they on security? Iss it increased? I mean, what what

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Speaker 3: what is happening with the Jewish community in New York

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Speaker 3: right now?

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Speaker 16: Well, drew in New York are already you know, locked

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Speaker 16: down maximum security because it's been such a hostile environment

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Speaker 16: for them since October seven, like since the very day

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Speaker 16: before Israel retaliated in Gaba. They have been under siege.

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Speaker 16: So they're you know, the ones I know anyway are

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Speaker 16: very much for what President Trump's doing in Iran. I

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Speaker 16: think it's absolutely crucial. And and just Abhoor Mamdani and

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Speaker 16: just feel feel kind of betrayed by following New Yorkers

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Speaker 16: that Mamdani is now you know, an Islamist. It basically

991
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Speaker 16: got voted in on the heels of the October seventh backlash.

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Speaker 16: So I think it's very sad. The other thing I'll

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Speaker 16: just point out about Dearborn, which is interesting, is I

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Speaker 16: remember way back when, you know, before the twenty four election,

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Speaker 16: when we were all fighting this fight and Charlie was

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Speaker 16: doing that so well about you know, transgender children and

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Speaker 16: girls in women's sport and indoctrinating children about gender in schools.

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Speaker 16: And you know who was a very good ally on that,

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Speaker 16: it was the parents of Muslim parents in Dearborn, Michigan.

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Speaker 16: I mean, I remember being quite surprised and seeing that

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Speaker 16: they were very vocal, and that was something that the

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Speaker 16: Democrats paid attention to because that's their base. So it's

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Speaker 16: very sad that, you know, you can have peaceful allyship

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Speaker 16: with these people and then suddenly it turns lethal, like

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Speaker 16: you know, it seems to have happened today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen this in your home nation of Australia

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Speaker 3: as well, the Bandai Beach shooting, and you know, it's

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Speaker 3: it's really sad to me that Melbourne is now listed

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Speaker 3: as one of the cities obviously that happened at Sydney,

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Speaker 3: but Melbourne is listed as one of the cities the

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Speaker 3: hotbeds for radicalization for Islamists. So well, the whole world's

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Speaker 3: flipped upside down.

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Speaker 16: And do you know Melbourne is the most left wing

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Speaker 16: city in the whole of Australia. It was the one

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Speaker 16: that had the harshest lockdown in the world that everyone

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Speaker 16: embraced and then re elected the same government that did that,

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Speaker 16: and very left wing and they're like frogs in boiling water,

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Speaker 16: have very good friends there and they just love it

1019
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Speaker 16: because I mean, I guess it's a fun city, but

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Speaker 16: it's like New York, it's very left wing and it's

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Speaker 16: no surprise that it's also the most radicalized because there's

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Speaker 16: this left musculim Islamist alliance.

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Speaker 3: And then you know what they do is they react

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Speaker 3: to the Bondai Beach shooting with like anti hate speech laws.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the leftist reaction to terror is.

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Speaker 12: Just so the worst thing of any terror attack is,

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Speaker 12: you know, the backlash that comes.

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Speaker 3: After it occurred. Right. Miranda Divine, New York Post columnist,

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Speaker 3: author of The Big Guy. Check her out. Thank you, Miranda,

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Speaker 3: We'll have you on again.

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Speaker 16: Soon thanks to Andrews. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: We are joined in studio by Pastor Lucas Miles. He's

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Thanks for having me always good be with

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Speaker 2: you guys. Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Let's just start with this breaking news out of Detroit.

1055
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Speaker 3: If we could throw some of that bu roll up,

1056
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Speaker 3: that'd be great. There is an active shooter situation. I'm

1057
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Speaker 3: getting you know the details as we have. It says

1058
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Speaker 3: that no confirm casualties, arrests, suspect identity, or motive release

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Speaker 3: by authorities as of the latest report. But we know

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Speaker 3: that it's close to Dearborn, which is the largest Muslim population,

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Speaker 3: and at least in the state of Michigan, maybe in

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Speaker 3: the country, I'm not sure. And West Bloomfield is the

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Speaker 3: area where the largest Jewish population lives. So we're we're guessing. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: we haven't had any confirmed reports, but it certainly seems

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Speaker 3: in line with that. The rise of anti Semitism is

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Speaker 3: very alarming, and a lot of that is getting attached

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Speaker 3: to evangelicals a lot. I mean, they're sort of something.

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Speaker 3: Now that the attack has morphed into an attack on

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Speaker 3: evangelicals because they're seen as being supportive of the State

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Speaker 3: of Israel. I don't want to put you in too

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Speaker 3: much hot water here. This is not what you prep

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Speaker 3: for because we actually have things that we're doing and

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Speaker 3: the make Heaven Crowded tour. But just give us your

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Speaker 3: take of the.

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Speaker 2: Landscape, right, Yeah, I mean I would argue that ultimately

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Speaker 2: that this that it's starting to land on the target,

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Speaker 2: and that is the elimination of this evangelical you know,

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Speaker 2: really maturity in this nation. When you look look at

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Speaker 2: why we were so successful twenty twenty four election, major

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Speaker 2: part of that evangelicals. You look at really the foundation

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Speaker 2: this nation, you know, the founding of our nation. Evangelicalism

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Speaker 2: Protestants have been at the center of that. And I

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Speaker 2: think that there is this concerted effort to try to

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Speaker 2: dismantle that. I think that a lot of the ideas

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Speaker 2: on the left, whether that be pagan constructs or Marcus

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Speaker 2: Marxist Marxist constructs, that those cannot be successful unless this

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Speaker 2: biblical worldview is completely removed. And so you know, and

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Speaker 2: these things are tied together, right. The Evangelicals Protestants historically

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Speaker 2: have aligned with the State of Israel. And view that

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Speaker 2: as you know, within a spectrum you have replacement theology

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Speaker 2: on one side and you have dispensation on the other side.

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Speaker 2: But that's they're both within Orthodoxy, and so we can

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Speaker 2: have a debate on those. What is outside of Orthodoxy

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01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: Dual covenism where there's two ways to get saved, one

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01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: through Christ and another through genealogy, and on the opposite

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01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: side of that is anti Semitism. Both of those exists

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01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: outside of Christianity. And so you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: to unpack here, and it just feels like the attacks

1099
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: are just being bombarded from every direction right now and

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Speaker 2: it's hard to keep up, honestly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a one update. The building Temple Israel

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01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 3: was not was not in service, nothing was scheduled in

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01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 3: that building until one thirty local time. It looks like

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01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 3: the attack started around twelve thirty. A vehicle was deliberately

1105
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 3: driven into Temple Israel at around twelve thirty local times,

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: sparking an active security situation. The car caught fire with

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01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 3: visible smoke. Shots were fired afterwards. So the Jewish Federation

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Speaker 3: of Detroit confirmed we are aware of an active security

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01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 3: incident at Temple Israel. Law enforcement are responding. Our Jewish

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01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 3: agencies are currently in precautionary lockdown. We ask community members

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01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 3: to stay away from the area at this time. This

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Speaker 3: was at five seven two five Walnut Lake Road, West Bloomfield, Michigan.

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01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: Nearby Bloomfield Hills and West Bloomfield Schools placed in secure

1114
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: locked mode again, no confirmed casualties. We don't have any

1115
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: suspect identity, no mode of release, no nothing. Blake, I

1116
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 3: know you have a lot of thoughts about this. You're Catholic.

1117
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 3: We have a lot of Catholics at Turning Point. We

1118
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 3: have a lot of Protestants at Turning Point. You know

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01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 3: you are interesting in this way because you acknowledge that

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Speaker 3: as a Catholic that a lot of America's founding ethos, ideology,

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01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 3: our founding documents came from a Protestant tradition. Like I guess,

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01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 3: make it make sense combine the two. You know, America

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Speaker 3: kind of is a Protestant nation. This has been the

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Speaker 3: bedrock of our country, are founding a lot of our strength.

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Speaker 3: But we love Catholics too, So I mean, I want

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Speaker 3: I want your perspective on this.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it's definitely I think you know, Catholics.

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Speaker 14: Aren't as.

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Speaker 12: They don't have the same his kind of connection that

1130
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Speaker 12: evangelicals often do with Israel, you know, with Israel, with Judaism,

1131
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 12: you know, the idea of like, for example, Messianic Judaism

1132
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 12: is not really a thing that has currency in Catholicism.

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Speaker 12: The general idea of Catholicism is like the Church is

1134
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 12: is sort of the fulfillment of the Old Testament. So

1135
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 12: the desire of the church is everyone would join the church,

1136
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 12: because that's what.

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Speaker 3: There's a Catholic prayer historically at Easter or something.

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01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 14: No, I believe there still is.

1139
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: I didn't know if that ended after that.

1140
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 12: They I think there they may have changed the wording

1141
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 12: of it because people disliked it, but but it was

1142
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Speaker 12: a prayer, prayer for there's still there is still a

1143
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 12: prayer for the Jewish people.

1144
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 14: Yeah, maybe maybe what it is.

1145
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 12: I think there's a prayer for the Jewish people and

1146
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 12: it doesn't explicitly say like they should convert anymore.

1147
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 14: I'd have to see that the text history. But it

1148
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 14: is during the Easter vigil.

1149
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 3: I mean, well, I pray the same No, I want them,

1150
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 3: I want you used to meet Jesus. But but this,

1151
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: this whole this I think this underlying attack against the

1152
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 3: Protestant bedrock of the country, which has been a bulwark

1153
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 3: of freedom. It's been a bulwark of conservatism. I mean,

1154
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: what is the eighty twenty vote for Trump or something

1155
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: like that. It is under siege. And so I mean,

1156
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: maybe tie that into what we're doing with Make Kevin Crowded.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, look, I mean you have there's a lot

1158
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: of groups. It's like the enemy of my enemy is

1159
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: my friend. And I think you're seeing that with islamisis Marxists.

1160
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: You're seeing this with you know, those that would be

1161
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: in kind of this this neo Nazi, you know, groper

1162
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: kind of thing that's happening. And I think that they're

1163
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: finding some degree of commonality though they're completely opposing views themselves,

1164
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: is that they have this sort of uniform position, you know,

1165
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: against Israel, and that's become you know, just this this

1166
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: this unifying you know factor in many ways, and so

1167
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Speaker 2: it's it's frightening. What we need for a solution for this.

1168
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: We need ideological change on an individual level. And that's

1169
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: really what we're doing at Make Kevin Crowded. It's it's

1170
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: really about you know, going around the nation taking that spear.

1171
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: Something happened at Charlie's Memorial. I mean, you cannot get

1172
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: away from that. And there was a spiritual DNA shift

1173
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: in this nation that took place, and we saw that

1174
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: it was tangible in the room.

1175
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 3: It was tangible. It was tangible.

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Speaker 2: After that church's exploded my own church three x after

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Speaker 2: Charlie's Memorial the next week, three times, three times.

1178
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we've sustained the vast majority of that of

1180
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: that growth. And so and we're seeing that we work

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Speaker 2: with eleven thousand churches now at t posa faith across

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01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: a wide array of.

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Speaker 3: Actually twelve thousand. I checked with the two did it

1184
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 3: hit twelve thousand? Okay, all right, all right, well yeah,

1185
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Speaker 3: not that throw under the bus here.

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Speaker 2: It's growing faster than we can count it, right, So

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Speaker 2: that was a last week number that I had, and

1188
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Speaker 2: it's been so exciting to see this development. And you know,

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Speaker 2: these are that and you know understand that number of

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Speaker 2: twelve thousand. We were at about forty six hundred on

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01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: September tenth, and so we have we have almost three

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Speaker 2: x the network of churches that we work with, and

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: we have pastors that are calling us and saying look,

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Speaker 2: I was always aligned with you guys ideologically, but I

1195
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: just never was really willing to wait in these waters.

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Speaker 2: I never was willing to get the fight. I was,

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Speaker 2: you know, I was afraid of losing you know, my people,

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Speaker 2: or losing you know, tithes or whatever. And just like

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Speaker 2: I know what's at sake now, I know what time

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Speaker 2: it is. I got to get in the fight. So

1201
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 2: this Makekevin Croditude. We're going to thirty cities across the

1202
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: country this year. Our next one coming up is in

1203
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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania at Freedom Life Church, I believe, on April eighth,

1204
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 2: and then we have our one of our biggest ones

1205
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 2: this year is going to be at Prestonwood Baptist and

1206
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 2: that is on April twenty ninth. We're expecting over ten

1207
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: thousand people with this one. It is going to be

1208
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: a massive, massive event. Eric is going to be there,

1209
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 2: Pastor Jack Graham, myself, We've got Ali, Bethstucky, and a

1210
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: couple other surprise guests.

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Speaker 3: We're still lining up. I mean, listen to some of

1212
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 3: these cities that we're hitting with the Make Heaven Crowded Tour.

1213
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 3: And you've already done Harvest Church. You've already done Awaken

1214
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: Church in San Diego. You've done World Outreach Church in Nashville.

1215
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 3: But now we're going to Philadelphia, Virginia Beach, Dallas, Portland,

1216
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 3: Rapid City, South Dakota. There you go, Blake, Little Dakota,

1217
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 3: Love Billings, Montana, Crown Point, Indiana, Louisville, Kentucky, Seattle, Washington.

1218
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 3: All Right, Pursuit Church, Great In Kirkland, Anchorage, Alaska, Paso, Texas, Charlotte,

1219
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: North Carolina, Las Vegas, Nevada, Austin, Texas, Woodland Park, Colorado, Phoenix, Arizona. Oh, okay,

1220
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 3: that's that's for amphith Amphasis. I love that. And then

1221
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 3: you even got TBD Hawaii's in the works.

1222
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: We got an eight thousand person church in Honolulu that

1223
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 2: we're working on dates for right now.

1224
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 3: That's amazing, I mean incredible. The vision here was to

1225
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 3: take some of the that that revival spirit that we

1226
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 3: all experienced at the memorial and take it on the road, right.

1227
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and so these are these are very much focused

1228
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: on your relationship with Jesus. We're encouraging the audience when

1229
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: they sign up, and you know, when you can register.

1230
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: It's a free event. There's no there's no tithe collected.

1231
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: It's a totally free event when you show up there,

1232
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: and but we're encouraging the attendees to bring a friend.

1233
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 2: This is where you grab your neighbor that said, hey,

1234
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: you know what, I was impacted by this, but I'm

1235
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: still exploring some stuff about my faith. Or maybe it

1236
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: was coming out to church with you a couple of times.

1237
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: Bring them out for this and we are seeing. You know,

1238
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: our first stop, we had fifty five hundred people who

1239
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 2: came and we had over three hundred people give their

1240
01:07:58,760 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: life to the Lord.

1241
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: Who was incredible. Whoa Yeah, three hundred people gave their

1242
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 3: life to the Lord. That's so encouraging. I've become so

1243
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: convinced some of the darkness that we've seen, and I

1244
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 3: know a lot of you and the audience have seen it,

1245
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 3: become very concerned about it. And the shooting is the

1246
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: latest incident of it. But it's because I believe the

1247
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 3: outpouring of life and love and goodness of the Holy

1248
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 3: Spirit that was unleashed at Charlie's Memorial makes the enemy

1249
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 3: really really uncomfortable, and so keep the faith. I believe

1250
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 3: that what God is unleashed, man cannot stop, nor can

1251
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 3: the darkness. All right, quick update on the situation in

1252
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 3: West Bloomfield. Go ahead and put up that some of

1253
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 3: that b roll, guys, I want people to get a

1254
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 3: sense of this building structure. But here's the main point

1255
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 3: as we know it now. The sheriff there is saying

1256
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 3: that the security guard at the temple saw the gunman

1257
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 3: and engaged him at the temple. They are They say

1258
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 3: that no one is confirmed to be hurt. That's a

1259
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 3: preliminary report. So grain assault, grain AsSalt, grain of salt.

1260
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: But right now they said, no one confirmed to be

1261
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 3: hurt at this time. But it's too early to connect

1262
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 3: this to terrorism, says the sheriff. So the suspect is

1263
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: not in custody, so they're right now looking to see

1264
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 3: if there's more than one suspect. They're telling people within

1265
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 3: a mile they should shelter in place. Everyone has been

1266
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 3: moved out of the school. This is an update from

1267
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 3: the sheriff there in West Bloomfield. Go ahead.

1268
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 12: It's just a frightening thing we've got. It's churches, religious

1269
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 12: houses of all denominations have become i don't want to

1270
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 12: say popular, but pretty frequent targets of just ask well,

1271
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 12: you know, people they've become Yeah, so you have protests

1272
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 12: that intrude into them, you have shooters, you have targeting

1273
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 12: of various kinds, and we're going to see I think

1274
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 12: synagogues become more popular targets because of this Iran conflict.

1275
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 12: We've seen churches and religious schools be hit often multiple

1276
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 12: times with this transgenderism nexus. And I just I worry

1277
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 12: about the state of the country because a lot of

1278
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 12: people are marinating and really extreme ideas, and there's this

1279
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 12: increasing idea that someone's ideas or someone's beliefs make them

1280
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 12: a legitimate.

1281
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 14: Target for violence.

1282
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 12: That's ultimately what happened with Charlie that people reject debate,

1283
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 12: they reject normal engagement, and instead they see every problem

1284
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 12: as something that they can somehow solve by picking up

1285
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 12: a rifle.

1286
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: I went to East Africa the first time in two

1287
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 2: thousand and eight, and every church I went to and

1288
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: preach there it had, you know, guys with arm you know,

1289
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: armed guys AK forty seven out in front of the church.

1290
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: And it was so foreign to me. And now, like

1291
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: going to a church that doesn't have a security team,

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Speaker 2: I could be like, what are you guys doing? Like

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Speaker 2: this is you have to understand where we're at right now,

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Speaker 2: like and it's it's it's terrible that we even have

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Speaker 2: to think like this, but this is this is the

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Speaker 2: world that we live in. And I think as long

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Speaker 2: as this stuff is allowed to you know, continue, and

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Speaker 2: and this type of ideology, you know, pushes on you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, houses of worship have to have to think

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Speaker 2: about security like top priority.

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Speaker 12: And it's such a frustrating sign of decline. Because America's

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Speaker 12: always had a large number of denominations. The original reason

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Speaker 12: a lot of people know that we had the First

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Speaker 12: Amendment is because we had so many different just Protestant churches,

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Speaker 12: Replicans and eventually Methodists and so on. And then of

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Speaker 12: course we've had a large number of Catholics since the

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Speaker 12: mid nineteenth century. We've had a large number of Jews

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Speaker 12: since about the same time. And for the most part,

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Speaker 12: you know, we were able to live in peace.

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Speaker 14: And that was one of the great blessings of America.

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Speaker 12: Because a lot of countries with religious divisions it has

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Speaker 12: ended extremely badly. Northern Ireland, Poland of course, and Russia,

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Speaker 12: you could say, and you just.

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Speaker 3: Have what we're looking at now is more like North

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Speaker 3: and South Sudan or Nigeria. You know where you're getting

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Speaker 3: where you're getting a Muslim on jew violence, or Muslim

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Speaker 3: on Christian violence, or just tensions raised in general.

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Speaker 12: And we should be frank, there's Christian on Jewish violence.

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Speaker 12: And this is one of the things Charlie was most

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Speaker 12: worried about that he saw.

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Speaker 14: This germ spreading on the right.

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Speaker 12: People who spend too much time online, too much time

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Speaker 12: in early toxic formulas where they blame, they decide to

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Speaker 12: blame the Jews for their problems.

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Speaker 3: Well, throw up two nine. This is a tweet from Charlie.

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Speaker 3: It says Jew hate has no place in civil society.

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Speaker 3: It rots the brain rejected.

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Speaker 2: I would add it has no place in Christianity either.

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Speaker 2: If you call yourself again, we can debate about eschatology,

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Speaker 2: that's fine. But if you are, you know, calling yourself

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Speaker 2: a Christian and you're saying Christ is king, and then

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Speaker 2: you are, you know, promoting some sort of hatred towards

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Speaker 2: a people because of their ethnicity, that isn't Christianity any longer.

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Speaker 3: Or the religion. And and I would just say, you know,

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Speaker 3: Charlie was very adamant about this, by the way, that

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Speaker 3: Jew hate was a brain rot and he said it

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Speaker 3: over and over and over again, and we must reject it.

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Speaker 3: Our savior was a Jewish man, it's a rabbi. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, at some point, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: could debate about replacement theology, you could whatever dispensation was.

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Speaker 3: Our Savior was a.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had we had a I won't I

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Speaker 2: won't overly quote it because I probably can't do that

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Speaker 2: right now. But you know, there was a there was

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Speaker 2: a big story this week about a particular pastor who

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Speaker 2: was saying that, you know, he didn't it didn't really

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Speaker 2: matter to him what Jesus, you know, what his background was.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, if Jesus wasn't a Jewish Messiah, then

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Speaker 2: he didn't fulfill the prophecies of the Old Testament, then

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Speaker 2: he wasn't actually you know, the Christ, you know. And

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Speaker 2: so it's like this is intrinsic to our faith, Like

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Speaker 2: it's not something that we can just do away with. Again,

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Speaker 2: we can debate the eschatology and the role of Israel

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Speaker 2: in the future events of the coming of Christ, but

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Speaker 2: to to try to like you know, erase the past

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Speaker 2: and do this his you know, revisionist history thing on

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Speaker 2: on even Jesus' own life.

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Speaker 3: Jesus could not have.

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Speaker 12: Just been helicoptered into you know, ancient Scotland or in China,

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Speaker 12: and if he preaches saying message, it would not have

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Speaker 12: made sense. So you think it only made sense within

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Speaker 12: the world of you know, Judaism.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you think about you know, I was just thinking

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Speaker 3: about verse where Jesus looked at Jerusalem and he wept

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Speaker 3: and he cared about the the the people in Israel.

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Speaker 2: Paul was willing to change to trade his salvation to

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Speaker 2: save his own brothers and sisters love the Jewish people

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Speaker 2: at the point the.

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Speaker 3: Amount of caring and heart and love. Now, Jesus had

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Speaker 3: his own issues with the ruling class, the Pharisees. Obviously

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Speaker 3: we're I'm not suggesting you can't have political differences. I'm

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Speaker 3: not suggesting you can't be against the war. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Blake and I have been pretty pretty honest and open

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Speaker 3: about the fact that this is a heck of a

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Speaker 3: climb and it's a big challenge, and Charlie would have

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Speaker 3: probably been against it. But you know, we have to

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Speaker 3: pray for peace and we all need Jesus, and I

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Speaker 3: think like when you have conversations like this. When you

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Speaker 3: see stuff that's going on in West Bloomfield, you just think, Lord,

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Speaker 3: have mercy on America. Pray for peace, and we need Jesus.

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Speaker 3: Which is why what you're doing and the team at

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Speaker 3: t POSA Faith is doing on the Make Heaven Crowded Tour,

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Speaker 3: I think is more important than ever.

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Speaker 2: It's easy to look online and get really discouraged when

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Speaker 2: you see, you know, just all the conflict and the

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Speaker 2: hate and all the news stories and everything else happening.

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Speaker 2: But when I'm telling you boots on the ground going

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Speaker 2: to churches around this country, we are seeing still massive

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Speaker 2: you know, awakening taking place, and in some places, I

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Speaker 2: would even say on the verge of what I would

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Speaker 2: call revival happening. And so this Make Heaven Crowded Tour,

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Speaker 2: if you guys haven't heard one nearby you yet, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna be going in city. We're actually pushing these into

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. We're going to be going around. This

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Speaker 2: is not stopping. Make Heaven Crowded Tour dot com. Find

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Speaker 2: a city near you, or use a chance to take

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Speaker 2: a vacation and go see us in another city.

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Speaker 12: Let's someone only emphasize that point because I encounter people

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Speaker 12: who identify as Christian, who say they're Christian and it.

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Speaker 14: Exists online for them.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's just an identification they take from the very

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Speaker 12: beigin in the New Testament, believers gather together. If you

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Speaker 12: are not gathering together with other believers, you are not

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Speaker 12: a believer. If you know, unless you're in prison, you

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Speaker 12: know impossible. If it is possible to gather with believers

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Speaker 12: and you are not among them, you are not a believe.

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Speaker 2: You're certainly not a disciple. Right, you have to go.

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Speaker 3: This is what This is what launched tposa faith in

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Speaker 3: the beginning, because Charlie hated that the church had stopped

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Speaker 3: gathering during COVID and was you know, he said, it

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Speaker 3: was like, you know, going to church online is like

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Speaker 3: watching a fire on a screen. You know, it's all

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Speaker 3: the light without the warmth. And that is literally what

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Speaker 3: birth TPOSA faith. So gather together, go to one of

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Speaker 3: these tour stops. Be a part of the community of believers,

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Speaker 3: the fellow.

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Speaker 2: Ring, a friends, the couple is. To make it crowded,

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Speaker 2: make Heaven crowded.

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Speaker 3: Tour dot com

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Speaker 15: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 15: can trust, go to Charlie Kirk dot com