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Speaker 2: on Tara Firma here this morning. And it is a

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Speaker 2: It was just the cabinet secretaries. Now, I've never been

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Speaker 8: to use tech analogy where it's appropriate.

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Speaker 2: The hissing and writing from the left about you, and

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Speaker 2: here's my impression, having not met you before you hit

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Speaker 2: the ground with President Trump and the administration again kind

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Speaker 2: of knowing where the bodies were buried. Financially, you knew

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Speaker 2: it to hit. Project twenty twenty five was something they

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Speaker 2: talked about as a bad thing. I thought it was

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Speaker 2: a brilliant thing. I thought, good, you guys had a

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Speaker 2: game plan and you clearly were executing it from day one.

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Speaker 2: Is that about right?

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Speaker 8: Well, I would say it's the President's agenda that we executed.

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Speaker 8: What was different about this team and I had the opportunity,

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Speaker 8: It's very rare, the president had this opportunity to think

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Speaker 8: about what you would do differently, even though you felt

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Speaker 8: like you did a good job, what would you do

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Speaker 8: differently in those years of exile?

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Speaker 2: And then to hit the ground running in a fundamental way.

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Speaker 8: And so we had laid the ground where the President

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Speaker 8: did its speeches on the notion of independent agencies not

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Speaker 8: really being a thing under your constitutional government impoundment, the

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Speaker 8: notion that we need to get a handle on our

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Speaker 8: career workforce reductions in four course, all of these types

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Speaker 8: of tools that we hit the ground running on day

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Speaker 8: one in a way that I don't think we've ever

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Speaker 8: seen before, and that has caused this first year to

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Speaker 8: be a very very successful one. And you know, and

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Speaker 8: I think the left also knows that we don't flinch

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Speaker 8: that confrontation. You know, a negative story is you know,

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Speaker 8: is every day. And so if you if you work

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Speaker 8: for a president that does not flinch from confrontation.

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Speaker 2: And always gets your back, you just will, you know,

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Speaker 2: walk through walk through fire for that. The USA I

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Speaker 2: D story was probably the most high profile one, at

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Speaker 2: least in my mind where I heard this and I

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Speaker 2: read about it and what you'd found and what had

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Speaker 2: been discovered, the fraud there closing down the entire entity,

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Speaker 2: and I thought I did. That's but one entity, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Leez Elden talked about APA. I didn't even know what

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Speaker 2: USAID was as a taxpayer. How much of that kind

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Speaker 2: of thing is there in this government? Still?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, there's still places that we're we need

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Speaker 8: to scale down bureaucracy by all means. I mean, we

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Speaker 8: made substantial progress this year for the first time and

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Speaker 8: being seventeen billion dollars less than Biden levels, and then

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Speaker 8: we were also much lower than twenty billion dollars lower

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Speaker 8: than the year before, including making sure that the USAID

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Speaker 8: elimination was made permanent. But there's all manner of places

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Speaker 8: that we need to continue to go lower and to

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Speaker 8: put these things out of business to we're trying to

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Speaker 8: do the Department of Education. And I think what was

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Speaker 8: different in this first several months of this administration was

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Speaker 8: that we literally changed the events on the ground. Before

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Speaker 8: we went to Congress and asked for them to endorse

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Speaker 8: those permanently USAID, we shut it down. We had the

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Speaker 8: authority to do it, and then we said, you know

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Speaker 8: that activity is now at state. We would like you

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Speaker 8: to fund it at state, but we're not in the

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Speaker 8: business at usaid my work at consumer financial protection bureaus

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Speaker 8: of the same mind.

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Speaker 2: We just scaled it down and we're going.

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Speaker 8: To continue to find opportunities where we have the legal

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Speaker 8: authorities to change the events on the ground in such

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Speaker 8: a way that makes it you have a shot then

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Speaker 8: to create the momentum to bless your changes as opposed

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Speaker 8: to opposer changes.

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Speaker 2: Lowest rate of government employment in fifty years.

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Speaker 8: Or something like that, I think is the statu is

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Speaker 8: that about right? We've made substantial improvements. I don't know

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Speaker 8: where now where we rank, but a lot of cutting,

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Speaker 8: a lot of job a lot of job cutting and

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Speaker 8: transition individuals of the private sector.

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Speaker 2: You know where you have waste in these bureaucracies? What

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Speaker 2: is the single biggest source do you believe in government

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Speaker 2: today of waste still that you'd like to see tackled?

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Speaker 8: Well, I think we have a still lot of programs

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Speaker 8: that are in the category of what I would say

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Speaker 8: are woke, weaponized, and wasteful.

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Speaker 2: Where you can change the agency leadership, but.

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Speaker 8: You still have a preschool development program that is pumping

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Speaker 8: out CRT. That's literally all that they do right, So

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Speaker 8: it's hard to you have gureaucracies that are just too

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Speaker 8: there's too much enforcement there because they're aimed at trying

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Speaker 8: to go and tell landowners that they should build a

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Speaker 8: ditch on their pond. And we're going to fix the regulation,

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Speaker 8: but the bureaucrats are still there, so we continue to

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Speaker 8: have to kind of and our budgets have proposed to

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Speaker 8: reduce these these programs or eliminate these programs, and that's

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Speaker 8: going to have to continue.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about the two hundred and fiftyth anniversary

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Speaker 2: of the country, the President talking about it last night. Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: where it all started, that was not a city block

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Speaker 2: at one point. Today the federal government is several city blocks.

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Speaker 2: Does that ever wash over you? In two hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty years, how government has grown. The scale of the

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Speaker 2: federal government is immense.

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Speaker 8: It's impossible just to kind of drive around this place

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Speaker 8: and see the buildings and.

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Speaker 2: Know that you know.

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Speaker 8: The agency is, the number of agencies involved in the

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Speaker 8: particular question. The challenge of being able to get anything

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Speaker 8: done is so complicated, But thankfully we have a president

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Speaker 8: that is probably uniquely situated to dealing with that challenge

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Speaker 8: in a way that we've.

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Speaker 2: Never seen before. We are grateful for what you do. Sincerely.

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Speaker 2: I know you get probably a lot of negative press,

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Speaker 2: but like you said, you've got a Steely's fine. But

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Speaker 2: we thank you for the work because I know you're

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Speaker 2: just buried in it every day and we feel great

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Speaker 2: knowing that you're fighting for the taxpayer. Sincerely, so I

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Speaker 2: wanted to say thank you, Perci Striss. So thank you listeners.

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Speaker 2: We really appreciate the support. Matt. Matt's out there in Marple, PA. Matthew,

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Speaker 2: good to have you there, sir. Good morning.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Yeah, it's Marple Mack. It's a radio call sign.

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Speaker 9: Great that you that you were mentioning about prayer, and

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Speaker 9: it's it's amazing that you know when the I heard it.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if you've heard of the message. It's

548
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Speaker 9: called this kid Jack Kyles, this kid Yall's fourth pery

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Speaker 9: infesting And he tells shamefully, how for a solid year,

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Speaker 9: not one convert, not one baptism. So he went to

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Speaker 9: the East Texas Baptist Theological Seminy. But every book he

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Speaker 9: could find he wanted to know the common denominator of

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Speaker 9: great men. Some preached long, some preached short. That wasn't it.

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Speaker 9: Some were eloquent some you know, and he found it

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Speaker 9: and then he went to his he prayed, you know word,

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Speaker 9: I surrend her all and he know what he was,

557
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Speaker 9: you know, about to happen. Well, he got a call

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Speaker 9: that his father, who was a pitiful alcoholic walked out

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Speaker 9: when he was when he was a young child, had

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Speaker 9: dropped out of a heart attack. And he says in

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Speaker 9: the message, I'll never be a powerless preaching as far

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Speaker 9: as I know. Unless he repented before he hit the

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Speaker 9: floor hanging sheet rock. He's in hell right now. And

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Speaker 9: he stayed. Some people said he was at his father's

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Speaker 9: gravesite several days, but when he came back, his church

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Speaker 9: went from forty nine to over three thousand. And then

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Speaker 9: you've heard of Anderson Renewal by Anderson. Well, they helped

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Speaker 9: him build a college, Hyles Anderson College, and he talks

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Speaker 9: about instances of revival.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about, Matt. I've just got to wrap this

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Speaker 2: call because I don't want to go down a rabbit hole.

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Speaker 2: But you're talking about the power of prayer and people

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Speaker 2: of faith, right, that's your point here, and this cabinet

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Speaker 2: is a prayerful cabinet, and that's why you think they're

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Speaker 2: getting things done. Is that about right? I summarized that,

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Speaker 2: but yes, but.

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Speaker 9: They need to accompany it by fasting. That's when things happen.

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Speaker 2: I'll pass that on the next time I'm there. I'm

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Speaker 2: grateful that you called, because it's an important point and

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Speaker 2: not one that has lost on me. In fact, I

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Speaker 2: was in the National Religious Broadcasters Convention last week and

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Speaker 2: one of the presentations was about our founding and our

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fiftieth and how these were men of

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Speaker 2: prayer and deep abiding faith. These institutions and laws were

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Speaker 2: to be the instruments of Christian men for the good

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Speaker 2: of the whole family. It was the source of their inspiration,

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Speaker 2: and they so ought to make the blessings available for

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Speaker 2: human advantage. They did not place Christianity beneath nor over

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Speaker 2: their political institutions. Rather, it was to be the atmosphere

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Speaker 2: which they breathed who administered them. It is undeniable two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty years ago that the founding of this

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Speaker 2: country was built on the bedrock of Christian faith. It

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Speaker 2: just was. You don't have to like it, but that's

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Speaker 2: the truth. And so to see this cabinet praying together,

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Speaker 2: dining together, and joining one another's company was remarkable. Here's

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Speaker 2: a little bit yesterday, just after I talked to Russ

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Speaker 2: Vote a little bit yesterday. This happened just like an

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Speaker 2: hour after I had these conversations at the White House.

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Speaker 2: Vice President Vance and Oz number eighty eight.

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Speaker 10: We're announcing today that we have decided to temporary, temporarily

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Speaker 10: halt certain amounts of Medicaid funding that are going to

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Speaker 10: the state of Minnesota in order to ensure that the

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Speaker 10: State of Minnesota takes its obligations seriously to be good

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Speaker 10: stewards of the American people's tax money. Now, what is

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Speaker 10: this mean. What this means is that, first of all,

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Speaker 10: the providers on the ground in Minnesota have actually already

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Speaker 10: been paid. The state has paid those providers the money.

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Speaker 10: What we're doing is we are stopping the federal payments

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Speaker 10: that will go to the state government until the state

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Speaker 10: government takes its obligations seriously to stop the fraud that's

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Speaker 10: being perpetrated against the American taxpayers.

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Speaker 2: And give me a number ninety real quickly. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if we have time for this. Let me see

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Speaker 2: a little bit of OZ here. Number ninety.

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Speaker 11: We did what any honest and patient focused agency would do.

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Speaker 11: We have notified the state and that we will give

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Speaker 11: them the money, but we're going to hold it and

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Speaker 11: only release it after they propose an act on a

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Speaker 11: comprehensive corrective action plan to solve the problem. If Minnesota

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Speaker 11: fails to clean up the system.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if they failed to clean up the system, the

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Speaker 2: money drives up. Tim Walls, the human mascot. He was

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Speaker 2: not happy about this, But folks, it was exciting to

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Speaker 2: see this in action. I mean I was literally watching

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Speaker 2: Oz and Russ vote at O and B talking about

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Speaker 2: this before this press conference. Yes, today it was spectacular

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Speaker 2: more in just a minute. I don't know about you.

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Speaker 2: If you have yo yo dieted all of your life,

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Speaker 2: I certainly have Keto paleo weight watchers, intermittent fasting. You

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Speaker 2: lose weight, and I have. I've lost dramatic amounts of

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Speaker 2: weight before, only to gain it back and then some

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Speaker 2: and you probably kick yourself for it, and you think

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Speaker 2: it's all about your own willpower and your own lack

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Speaker 2: of discipline. Look, maybe, Ei, there's some of that, but

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Speaker 2: the real truth of it is it was not strictly

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Speaker 2: about willpower. There is one thing only that determines whether

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Speaker 2: your body burns fat or stores fat, and if you

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Speaker 2: don't know how to fix that, every diet you're ever

639
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Speaker 2: going to try fails. That's all that changed for me

640
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Speaker 2: was looking at it differently, and PhD Weight Loss told

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Speaker 2: me how to look at it differently. Doctor Ashley Lucas

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Speaker 2: and I started talking about her program and why it's

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Speaker 2: worked so well for some of my colleagues, and how

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Speaker 2: she's different. And so when I went on this program

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Speaker 2: last year and I began to eat real food, I

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Speaker 2: didn't have to take any kind of shots or any

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Speaker 2: kind of gimmicky drugs or anything like that. It was

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Speaker 2: just purely understanding how my body best metabolizes food, when

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Speaker 2: have more coverage from my White House visit yesterday in

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Speaker 2: someone in this cabinet, in this presidential administration, you don't

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Speaker 2: someone that I don't know if you know much about

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Speaker 2: Do you add if I asked you what goes on

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Speaker 2: in the Department of Labor, really, do you know much

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Speaker 2: about it? Department of Labor? No, I know I don't either.

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Speaker 2: I mean to be perfectly like, if you told me

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Speaker 2: I think I'd like to speak to her about what

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Speaker 2: if you don't know her, get to know her. I

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Speaker 2: did yesterday. And she talks about how the Department of

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Speaker 2: Labor has been going to work across government for folks

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Speaker 2: like you and me who get up and go to

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Speaker 2: work every day. Here's some of it, Madam Secretary, nice

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Speaker 2: to meet you.

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Speaker 1: Nice to make me too.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me watch the State of the Union.

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Speaker 2: I was in my hotel room.

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Speaker 3: You were there in person, absolutely front row, front row.

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Speaker 2: You've been to a couple of those, I assume I have.

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Speaker 3: I certainly well last year, which was not really the

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Speaker 1: So certainly when when the former president was.

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Speaker 2: There, just broadly having attended a couple of those with

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Speaker 2: You kind of taking it back.

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Speaker 1: By that, Well, you get disappointed. I think certainly we

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Speaker 3: Be honoring so many heroes as you saw us. I

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Speaker 3: yesterday afternoon to to see her up there with her

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Speaker 1: How do you not stand for those things?

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Speaker 3: And I know some chose not to, but again I

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Speaker 3: was there, and you stand for the American people, you know,

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Speaker 3: not on all policy, but you certainly don't just do

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's good for any American to see.

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Speaker 3: So it's disappointed. You need you to shake your head

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Speaker 3: and think it's not right.

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Speaker 1: And they shouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that necessarily everyone could define the your

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Speaker 2: it in kind of its broad thirty thousand foot view?

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Speaker 2: What do you dial in on every day that maybe

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Speaker 2: people don't understand?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, most people will say the exact question that

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Speaker 3: But most of the time that people will say, well,

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Speaker 3: we protect them in their retirement all the way through.

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Speaker 1: So we do a lot with the retirement four a

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Speaker 3: So we work with our companies, we work with the

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Speaker 1: So we have a lot of agencies at the Department

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Speaker 3: It's one of the agencies that touches in America really

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Speaker 2: So you're talking to the Social Security Administration, you're talking

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Speaker 3: Oz absolutely on everything that can happen when we're talking

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Speaker 3: about employment and training, which is really the focus that

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Speaker 1: Who are the workforce of their needing? What's happening with AI?

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Speaker 3: How are we understanding that there's so many things I

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, I bet this has come

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: We have an MoU together, the Memorandum of Understanding to

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Speaker 1: So we are saying we can deploy the dollars.

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Speaker 3: There are future workers, let's get them trained. Maybe not

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Speaker 3: everything to get a warrior degree. We're going to get

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Speaker 3: It's all the employment training through their Workforce Investment Opportunity

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Speaker 3: the America First policies are delivered to the American workforce.

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Speaker 2: That's my job talking about the American workforce. I have

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Speaker 2: know Elon Musk has pointed out a lot. We got

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Speaker 2: to start making babies in this country. Is that a

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Speaker 2: that you often hear people say Americans won't do. I

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Speaker 2: there a lot of jobs that we just simply can't

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Speaker 1: Well, there's certainly a couple of things I think we

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Speaker 1: our workforce grow, and that is going to be the future.

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Speaker 3: Americans want to see the population grow, and we do

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Speaker 1: So how do we account for that. We have to

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Speaker 3: So look at the Trump accounts, look at what the

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Speaker 1: We want people to have one job. We don't want

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Speaker 3: I want people to have one job, and we want

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Speaker 1: Workforce so that they can understand. How is a former

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Speaker 1: mayor I don't know if you have a family. I

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Speaker 1: want to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

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Speaker 3: That's what we can do with the Department of Labor,

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Speaker 3: so have that skilled workforce for the market.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that's just some of the conversation. We will have

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Speaker 2: that in full for you today. The conversation with the

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Speaker 2: Labor Secretary, the President's Labor Secretary, Lori Chavez. That in

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Speaker 2: full conversation today, available at the podcast eight five five

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Speaker 2: Stagall is our telephone number if you'd like to get

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Speaker 2: in here. Nick Suirley, the other individual that I'd mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to play for you a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: Our colleagues over at townhall dot com consumed the entire

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Speaker 2: interview and it's available for you right now at the

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Speaker 2: podcast too. But this guy, at twenty three years of

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Speaker 2: age is doing better journalism, more journalism than most of

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Speaker 2: the networks paying Pancake, Makeup, blow Dry anchors millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars to do this. Guy's got a phone and a

884
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Speaker 2: guy following around live streaming on YouTube. Here's some of

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Speaker 2: the conversation yesterday, just brief snippets. If you want to

886
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Speaker 2: hear it in full again, it's at the Christagall Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe so you don't miss it. Number ninety one. Here

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Speaker 2: I asked him why he does what he does, why

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Speaker 2: does he get how did he even get into this

890
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Speaker 2: at age twenty three doing this investigative undercover work.

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Speaker 12: Before this, I had done videos on immigration, had spoken

892
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Speaker 12: the legal migrants that came across the border in the US.

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Speaker 2: I did a lot of stuff on the election that

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Speaker 2: travels over till o.

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Speaker 12: We're fifteen countries in the past year and a half

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Speaker 12: making videos about current events. Had gone to the prisons

897
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Speaker 12: in El Salvador, had gone in the favelas of Brazil,

898
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Speaker 12: had spent time in the streets of Kensington, Philadelphia, the

899
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Speaker 12: streets of skid Row, zombie Land and crackle Land.

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Speaker 2: Yet in South Paulo. I had done a lot before this.

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Speaker 12: I'm super interested to see how the world works and

902
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Speaker 12: to see what's the pressure points out the world and

903
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Speaker 12: what's making people do the things they're doing, because there's

904
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Speaker 12: a lot of things happening, a lot of corruption and

905
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Speaker 12: a lot of people are dying from things like fentanyl crisis,

906
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Speaker 12: or you're seeing a lot of issues arise in the West,

907
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Speaker 12: fron illegal migration, and there's no other really YouTubers that

908
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Speaker 12: were documenting it and then also kind of sharing their

909
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Speaker 12: own opinions on a lot of things.

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Speaker 13: A lot of.

911
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Speaker 12: YouTubers go and make these kind of videos, but they

912
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Speaker 12: don't ever try to come up with any sort of solution.

913
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Speaker 12: They kind of just show up for what it is

914
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Speaker 12: and never say, Okay, well, maybe there are people inside

915
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Speaker 12: the guy right now who are trying to bring about

916
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Speaker 12: some sort of solution, whether that be with fraud or

917
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Speaker 12: whether that be with Leegal immigration. I mean, I saw

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Speaker 12: a lot of people get trafficked over from the United

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Speaker 12: States borders. So and Trump says he's going to close

920
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Speaker 12: the border. I'm I'm stoked about that. I'm gonna support that.

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Speaker 2: And how did he get started. Listen to this answer

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Speaker 2: at ninety two. If this doesn't inspire you about the

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Speaker 2: American way.

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Speaker 12: I started making videos more politically based after I had

925
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Speaker 12: or turned back from a two year mission from my church,

926
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Speaker 12: and I had zero dollars. So when I came home

927
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Speaker 12: back from that trip, I worked for an entire month.

928
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Speaker 12: I powerwashed houses, and my goal was to make ten

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Speaker 12: thousand dollars in cash, and so then I then took

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Speaker 12: that ten thousand dollars in cash and use that to

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Speaker 12: funnel my YouTube channel for the first three months until

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Speaker 12: could actually make a profit, because you actually don't really

933
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Speaker 12: make money on YouTube until you can start getting the

934
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Speaker 12: millions of views.

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Speaker 2: I always knew I was gonna be YouTuber. Wow. Always

936
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Speaker 2: that was always your goal.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, since I've been fifteen. I've made a video pretty

938
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Speaker 12: much every week since I was fifteen years old. Even

939
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Speaker 12: on my when I went on my mission trip, I

940
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Speaker 12: was still making videos interviewing people about Jesus in Spanish.

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Speaker 2: Eddie, I mean there, I am nearly a fifty year

942
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Speaker 2: old man interviewing a twenty three year old man with

943
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Speaker 2: millions of followers for good reason. I don't know what

944
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Speaker 2: you were doing at twenty three. Is that one of

945
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Speaker 2: the most thoughtful twenty three year old men you've ever

946
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Speaker 2: heard from?

947
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Speaker 7: Chris Unbelieva, I love was struggling to make my way

948
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Speaker 7: in the broadcast. Is this getting like fifty dollars for

949
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Speaker 7: a basketball game to do play by play?

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Speaker 2: That whole conversation, It was really inspiring, and I can

951
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Speaker 2: see why he has the millions of fans he does.

952
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Speaker 2: Nick Shirley My podcast conversation, Chris Stigall dot com or

953
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Speaker 2: wherever you get your pod. You know what the problem

954
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Speaker 2: was for that State of the Union address? For Democrats,

955
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Speaker 2: what they really hated the most was it was just

956
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Speaker 2: so damned patriotic. Literally, they hate the patriotism and sloppy choppers.

957
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Speaker 2: The San Francisco treat says so in number ninety three,

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Speaker 2: listen to this, But I think.

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Speaker 14: That's Governor spend Burger did a remarkable job just insisting

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Speaker 14: on the truth, which is what we have to do

961
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Speaker 14: when we're dealing with this president.

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Speaker 2: I thought the speech was lazy.

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Speaker 14: You know, it's one thing to acknowledge patriotism and people

964
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Speaker 14: getting well and everything when you have absolutely nothing to

965
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Speaker 14: do with their courage or the rest. But you spend

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Speaker 14: an hour and a half doing it, what is the state.

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Speaker 1: Of the nation?

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Speaker 2: Yep? Too much celebration of the country. Pelosi hated that,

969
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Speaker 2: Remember when she was sitting where Mike Johnson was sitting.

970
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Speaker 2: She ripped up the speech, so any notion that this

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Speaker 2: was just outrageous, you know Trump's behavior during the State

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Speaker 2: of the Union. Of course, she ushered in a whole

973
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Speaker 2: new era by ripping up the speech behind him. But

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Speaker 2: Salima Zito writes it this way. No one in the

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Speaker 2: room watching the speech expected Democrats to stand and clap

976
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Speaker 2: for policies that are hallmarks of conservatism. However, Trump offered

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Speaker 2: several opportunities for Democrats to join it on policies that

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Speaker 2: pull eighty twenty, and for political reasons, they declined. But

979
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Speaker 2: perhaps the most striking moment of contrast between the President

980
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Speaker 2: and Democrats was when the latter refused to applaud his

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Speaker 2: proposal to bar states from allowing teenagers to undergo gender

982
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Speaker 2: transition treatment without parental consent. Trump said, quote, look, nobody

983
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Speaker 2: stands up. These people are crazy. I'm telling you they're crazy.

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Speaker 2: Republican strategist Brad Todd said that Trump's spontaneous remark quote

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Speaker 2: these people are crazy, has legs. That is the mid

986
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Speaker 2: term strategy to hold the House and swing voters know it.

987
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Speaker 2: There is natural energy against the President's party in any midterm,

988
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Speaker 2: but there is an opposition with a bar too clear.

989
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Speaker 2: These people are crazy is the campaign Democrats should fear,

990
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Speaker 2: said one strategist. We will talk with the organization eyes

991
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Speaker 2: over about how you and those online received that State

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Speaker 2: of the Union up. Okay, John Fetterman, the only Democrat

993
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Speaker 2: even put on a suit for the occasion this week

994
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Speaker 2: at the State of the Union I just shared with

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Speaker 2: you Selena Zito's piece. These people are crazy. That was

996
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Speaker 2: what President Trump said at one point when talking about

997
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Speaker 2: the state seizing children in secret, transing them without their parents' consent,

998
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Speaker 2: and the Democrats sat on their hands during that moment,

999
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Speaker 2: to which President Trump said, these people are crazy. There's

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Speaker 2: a consultant in Selena Zito's piece who says he thinks

1001
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Speaker 2: that well could be the midterm campaign for Democrats, or

1002
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Speaker 2: rather four Republicans against Democrats. These people are crazy. John Fetterman,

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Speaker 2: a Democrat, basically think so too. Number eighty three.

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Speaker 15: Listen to this, like I stood up and I clapped

1005
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Speaker 15: to recognize the family that lost their daughter, the Ukrainian

1006
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Speaker 15: girl that was stabbed to death, you know, in North Carolina.

1007
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Speaker 15: And I stood up and I clapped. That political prisoner

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Speaker 15: from Venezuela. You know how, you can't celebrate those kinds

1009
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Speaker 15: of things. And now I also celebrated all the veterans

1010
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Speaker 15: that were in the audience as well too, and even

1011
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Speaker 15: more the political things like Erica Kirk I stood up

1012
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Speaker 15: in and I clapped for her as well too. Now here,

1013
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Speaker 15: you know, can't we just be more kind to a widow?

1014
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Speaker 15: I mean, we just shouldn't be that long ago that

1015
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Speaker 15: a widow, you know, with young children has their husband murdered.

1016
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Speaker 15: You know how we can't just acknowledge that is as

1017
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Speaker 15: well too.

1018
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Speaker 2: And he took all kinds of incoming because he shook

1019
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Speaker 2: the president's hand. Listen to this in eighty four.

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Speaker 15: We have to find a way if we can be

1021
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Speaker 15: in the same room, we can disagree on these things.

1022
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Speaker 15: You don't have to sign off on everything. You don't

1023
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Speaker 15: have to agree with everything. And now, if I hear

1024
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Speaker 15: something that I agree with or I like that, hey,

1025
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Speaker 15: I'm going to stand up and clap for those things.

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Speaker 15: And I think and if someone one's angry that I

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Speaker 15: shook the president's hand as he walked in, yeah, that's

1028
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Speaker 15: I think that's on them. And I think some of

1029
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Speaker 15: the people that were angry that I did that. They

1030
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Speaker 15: didn't really have a problem when Mandammi visited with the

1031
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Speaker 15: White House too, So like, if we refuse to talk

1032
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Speaker 15: to the other side, I mean, that's the only one

1033
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Speaker 15: that really loses, that's America.

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Speaker 2: So we go to a source that we've really come

1035
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Speaker 2: to value here because they're doing important work, real time work,

1036
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Speaker 2: at a company called eyes Over. If you missed my

1037
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Speaker 2: conversation with Chris Wilson, who is the CEO of eyes Over,

1038
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Speaker 2: I'm boiling this down overly, simplistically, but effectively. What Chris

1039
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Speaker 2: and his team do at eyes over is look out

1040
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Speaker 2: over the universe of social media and find out in

1041
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Speaker 2: real time what people are responding to. This will become

1042
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Speaker 2: sort of the way of the future for political trends.

1043
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: It's more accurate than polling because it's sort of a

1044
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Speaker 2: real time pulse of where people are and how the

1045
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Speaker 2: electorate and the flks out there are actually consuming this

1046
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Speaker 2: stuff in real time. So he was watching the State

1047
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Speaker 2: of the Union. He's been monitoring people's reaction on social media,

1048
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Speaker 2: things like John Fetterman, the standing, the sitting President Trump'

1049
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Speaker 2: speech in general, and we bring him in this morning

1050
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Speaker 2: to talk more about it, Chris, glad to see you again, sir,

1051
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Speaker 2: Thanks for making time.

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Speaker 6: Hi, you bet great, Thanks for having me back.

1053
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Speaker 2: What's your thirty thousand foot view now that you've called

1054
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Speaker 2: through some of the data points on the state of

1055
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Speaker 2: the Union. Was it a success for this president? And

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Speaker 2: has it? In fact? As Selena Zito said, these people

1057
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Speaker 2: are crazy. She identifies that as maybe a moment that

1058
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Speaker 2: could stick to Democrats.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's you did a great job describing what we do.

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Speaker 16: We analyze millions of online conversations in real time to

1061
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Speaker 16: measure cinema momentum, narrative shifts, and political events as and

1062
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Speaker 16: full and we use this methodology to forecast major races

1063
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Speaker 16: within razor thren margins over the last couple of political cycles.

1064
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Speaker 6: So we tracked the state of.

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Speaker 16: The Union in by minute and within hours pause the

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Speaker 16: cinnamon around President Trump nine points to forty seven percent,

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Speaker 16: had been a three day average of thirty eight percent,

1068
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Speaker 16: and Republicans exit of the evening with a measurable five

1069
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Speaker 16: point two sentiment advantage over Democrats. But what's fascinating to

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Speaker 16: me was is that engagement volume was up between three hundred,

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Speaker 16: well from three hundred to four hundred and fifty percent.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's different people who.

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Speaker 16: Are watching over different times of the evening compared to

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Speaker 16: prior State of the Unions.

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Speaker 6: It's the Biden State of the Union.

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Speaker 16: That was the last Trump one, the Obama ones where

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Speaker 16: you know there was social media back then.

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Speaker 6: It may not have been during Ronald Reagan, of course,

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Speaker 6: but there was now.

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Speaker 16: To your point, when the president said these people are crazy,

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Speaker 16: I guess I'd have to disagree slightly with Selena and

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Speaker 16: Brad Todd. That is a it's a statement for the elections,

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Speaker 16: I think is a base consolidation event.

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Speaker 6: It was.

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Speaker 16: It energized the base immediately. We did see engagements fight,

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Speaker 16: no question about it.

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Speaker 6: Clips spread, We're going to see the clip over and

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Speaker 6: over over again.

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Speaker 16: The opposition reaction was loud, but it remained largely within

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Speaker 16: partisan clusters. We didn't see measurable collapse in moderate aligned streams.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's moderns didn't react positively to it.

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Speaker 6: They didn't ragnant negatively.

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Speaker 16: They just kind of like set back until it is

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Speaker 16: now it could consolidate over time. Tone matters, the context

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Speaker 16: really matters more in the context of visible disruptions and

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Speaker 16: sitting your immunity moments.

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Speaker 6: Those were the bigger issues, and I think those.

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Speaker 16: Are the more the bigger, mid term type of events

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Speaker 16: that occurred the stand.

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Speaker 6: If you agree more than those people are crazy.

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Speaker 2: Do you get the sense that people are more hungry

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Speaker 2: to hear very specific policy in these things or as

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Speaker 2: a good chunk of this speech was a celebration of

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Speaker 2: the country. My impression of it was we're back, and

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Speaker 2: we're winning, and we're strong, and we're going to celebrate

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Speaker 2: the greatness of the country. As much as it was

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Speaker 2: a policy, it wasn't devoid of policy, But as Nancy

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Speaker 2: Pelosi effectively said, a screw all the patriotis and I'm

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Speaker 2: tired of you know, it wasn't serious. It was too

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Speaker 2: much more flag waving and celebrating for her taste. How

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Speaker 2: does that work for the folks watching?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I would see the patriotism moments didn't just generate applause,

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Speaker 16: they generated measurable engagement.

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Speaker 6: They generated consolidation.

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Speaker 16: And no, people aren't looking for the president to get

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Speaker 16: up there and release a policy paper. That's just a

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Speaker 16: Nancy plus maybe, but I think she was still a

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Speaker 16: little bit but heard about the stock trading issues.

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Speaker 6: You know, the fact that you don't want.

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Speaker 16: To be called that as the greatest living stock trader

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Speaker 16: and not the greatest living the greatest dock trading in

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Speaker 16: American history.

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Speaker 6: I mean shakes. Warren Buffett looked like you and me,

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Speaker 6: maybe you're good, but those.

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Speaker 16: Are What stood out was how strongly the patriotism segments

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Speaker 16: drove engagement. And that's what we're looking for here is

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Speaker 16: not just what occurs, but how much engagement there is

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Speaker 16: and who it's coming from.

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Speaker 6: Is it just people like you and me? Or is

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Speaker 6: it moderates? Is it swing voters?

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Speaker 12: Is it?

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Speaker 6: And then we do look, I mean, I watch it

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Speaker 6: so you don't have to. We do monitor what's happening

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Speaker 6: on blue sky, and you know, is it melting down

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Speaker 6: over there? Are they like, oh, we really screw it up?

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Speaker 16: And so the hockey tributes, the family recognition moment, what

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Speaker 16: John Feenderman called it, pointed out those weren't legislative discussions.

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Speaker 16: Those weren't policy discussions. Those were what I'll call identity affirmations.

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Speaker 16: And I did any moments travel much farther and faster

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Speaker 16: and are more important than policy explanations.

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Speaker 6: And they're more important, frankly than that. These people are

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Speaker 6: crazy moments when.

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Speaker 16: Patriotism is framed around national pride, around service, around sacrifice,

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Speaker 16: medals of honor, the hockey team, citizens going out and

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Speaker 16: doing above.

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Speaker 6: And beyond for our country.

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Speaker 16: Reaction consolidates quickly and it doesn't fracture the way policy

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Speaker 16: is going to when people start picking it apart.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Blue Sky for people that don't know,

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Speaker 2: that's effectively the X or the Twitter for the left.

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Speaker 2: They created their own island over there. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how it's doing. Are people actually using it? They don't

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Speaker 2: go over there.

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Speaker 6: Good. Now.

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Speaker 16: When we start first started monitoring Christian carass it had

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Speaker 16: twenty million active users. It's down to under a million

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Speaker 16: now because they keep shaming everyone off the platform.

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Speaker 2: They've lost followers really since they launch.

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Speaker 16: Holy yeah, yeah, they get kicking people off.

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Speaker 6: If you're noting one hundred percent in line.

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Speaker 16: It's like John Fetterman, I guarantee you, John Fetterman, it

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Speaker 16: would not be allowed on Blue Sky.

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Speaker 2: Chris Wilson is with the CEO of a company called

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Speaker 2: Eyes Over. He's watching all of the real time movement

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Speaker 2: people's sentiments there on social media, and the question about

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Speaker 2: Republicans is can they inspire? You know, It's one thing,

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Speaker 2: the patriotism, and the president's the great lead dog here,

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Speaker 2: but in these individual races around the country, what's the

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Speaker 2: key do you think for Republicans to actually inspire their

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Speaker 2: own turnouts and their own districts without President Trump?

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Speaker 16: Well, it's I think there's a few things that Republicans

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Speaker 16: can take away from this, and the first one is

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Speaker 16: you want to know you need to double down. You

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Speaker 16: need to double down on affordability. Whenever the President talked

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Speaker 16: about that, it exploded. You have to double down on

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Speaker 16: national security. When we did that, engagement exploded. And you

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Speaker 16: want to double down on patriotism, we did that, engagement exploded.

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Speaker 16: But the other thing that Democrats gave Republicans a big

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Speaker 16: gift on, and it's kind of what you let into

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Speaker 16: the second with, is the standard you emoment.

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Speaker 6: The standio of green line was strategically brilliant. Again, what

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Speaker 6: about policy?

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Speaker 16: It created a forced visual decision in a nationally televised setting,

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Speaker 16: and when.

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Speaker 6: Democrats remained seated, that.

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Speaker 16: Conversation immediately shifted online. It wasn't due to support a policy,

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Speaker 16: It became why aren't they standing? And we saw measurable

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Speaker 16: spikes and negative framing around those clips. And for that case,

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Speaker 16: it came not just from conservative it came from moderates.

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Speaker 16: It came from mixed cluster, aligned clusters. And that tells

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Speaker 16: you the visual register beyond based politics, and in modern politics,

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Speaker 16: posture travels much further than policy.

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Speaker 6: And we're gonna see those.

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Speaker 16: Clips of the sort of anger contorted faces from Rashida

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Speaker 16: to leave and Ilian ol Mars yelling at the president,

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Speaker 16: and that's going to be what no one remembers, Avoca Spanberger.

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Speaker 16: We're starting to learn more about the furries that danced

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Speaker 16: around with Democrats and the and the weird counter protim

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Speaker 16: But the clips are going to be played over and over,

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Speaker 16: they're going to be in campaign ads. And it was

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Speaker 16: just a gift from the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you. The angry lady in the

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Speaker 2: headscarf screaming at the president of the United States not

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Speaker 2: a great look. Not the ad the Democrats want. Chris Wilson.

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Speaker 2: We're checking in with eyes over every week because this

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Speaker 2: is the real pulse of how to measure the sentiment

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Speaker 2: of the folks out there. And we're grateful for your time, Chris.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 6: That sounds good.

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Speaker 2: Thankful more in a minute. Coming up in just a

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Speaker 2: little bit, my conversation with doctor memed Oz. He had

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Speaker 2: a big press conference yesterday with JD. Vance, the Vice President,

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Speaker 2: about an hour after he and I sat down for

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Speaker 2: an interview at the White House yesterday. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: go back and revisit this press conference yesterday JD. Vance

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Speaker 2: talking about the fraud in Minnesota and how Center for

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Speaker 2: Medicare and Medicaid run by doctor Oz, they're cutting off

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Speaker 2: funds to Minnesota until they prove they've got their house

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Speaker 2: in order. Here's a little more, number eighty nine from

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Speaker 2: Vice President Vance. We're a generous country. We're generous people.

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Speaker 10: We take care of our fellow citizens who can't afford

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Speaker 10: medical care because they're down on their luck. We take

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Speaker 10: care of people who can't afford to put food on

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Speaker 10: the table, even though they work hard and play by

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Speaker 10: the rules. What's happening in Minneapolis, in California, in a

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Speaker 10: number of states all across our country is that the

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Speaker 10: generosity and the good hearts of our fellow Americans are

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Speaker 10: being taken advantage of. We're taking that social contract that

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Speaker 10: says that our American citizens we take care of one

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Speaker 10: another and We're allowing a few bad actors to get

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Speaker 10: rich off that generosity of spirit instead of providing.

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Speaker 6: The services to the kids who need it.

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Speaker 2: This is disgraceful, and doctor Oz followed up in number ninety.

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Speaker 11: We did what any honest and patient focused agency would do.

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Speaker 11: We have notified the state and that we will give

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Speaker 11: them the money, but we're going to hold it and

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Speaker 11: only release it after they propose an act on a

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Speaker 11: comprehensive corrective action plan to solve the problem. If Minnesota

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Speaker 11: fails to clean up systems, the state will rack up

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Speaker 11: a billion dollars of deferred payments this year. Governor Wallis

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Speaker 11: has sixty days sixty days sir to respond to our letter.

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Speaker 11: And if providers and beneficiaries are worried about getting their

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Speaker 11: money in services, please call your governor. These are services

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Speaker 11: the governor has already paid for. We are just not

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Speaker 11: reimbursing the state. To make it clear, there is a

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Speaker 11: rainy day fund in Minnesota, so we are very confident

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Speaker 11: that people will not be hurt in Minnesota. This is

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Speaker 11: not a problem with the people of Minnesota. It's a

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Speaker 11: problem with the leadership of Minnesota and other states who

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Speaker 11: do not take medicaid preservation seriously and delay in services

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Speaker 11: is going to be should be laid. It's the seat

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Speaker 11: of Governor Waltz. I believe he will take this seriously.

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Speaker 11: They're not the only state that's floundering.

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Speaker 2: Carol is in Minnesota. I wanted to weigh in on this, Carol,

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Speaker 2: good morning. What's your reaction to that event yesterday?

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Speaker 13: Hi, Hi, Chris. They call them frad fadder now here, but.

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Speaker 2: He hires father.

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Speaker 9: I love it, you have they call them.

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Speaker 13: Fraud that's the new name for him.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 13: He hired a man named Tim O'Malley. You know, fraud

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Speaker 13: father shouldn't have been able to hire anybody to do anything.

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Speaker 13: Hired him to oversee oversight on the fraud and also

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Speaker 13: going forward. His name is Tim O'Malley and he I

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Speaker 13: think he's a friend of his and he is going

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Speaker 13: to only answer to the fraud father. So he just

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Speaker 13: hired him. And also news put out a text about

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Speaker 13: him and this O'Malley said something like, uh, compliance compassion

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Speaker 13: over compliance, so whatever that means, there should be no

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Speaker 13: compassion for fraud. So that's I just wanted to let

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Speaker 13: you know that, and I would.

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Speaker 2: Be are Carol or Minnesotan's responding well to the JD

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Speaker 2: Vans doctor Oz announcement.

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Speaker 13: Do you think I think so, I really do. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: they are it just it just came out now. But

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Speaker 13: you know we've got the stake news here too, that

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Speaker 13: cover up for the fraud father. Yeah, they were up

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Speaker 13: for him. I mean he's been he's been the governor

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Speaker 13: for White two terms and I've got maybe two or

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Speaker 13: three times he ever would talk to the media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I got to tell you something. The boom

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Speaker 2: was lowered yesterday and Walls he put out a statement

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Speaker 2: he said, they're just they're just trying to weaponize the

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Speaker 2: government against us people who have put Yeah. Well, nevertheless,

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Speaker 2: I talked to doctor Oz. He actually gave us a

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Speaker 2: little hint that this was coming. Did I missed it

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Speaker 2: in this conversation coming up? But this was moments before

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Speaker 2: that press conference with the Vice president coming up. Excellence

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Speaker 2: in dentistry, that's what you're going to get at Williamsburg Dental.

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Speaker 2: My friend Bob Spinado is back on the phone. He's

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Speaker 2: in Broomald, just off the Blue Route, and with two

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Speaker 2: new associates, now you can expand and offer more hours,

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Speaker 2: maybe evening hours, possibly weekends, Bob.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: One of the things that I told them from early

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Speaker 17: on when they started with me was the value of

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Speaker 17: not only their own time, but other people's times. And

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Speaker 17: they run on a similar schedule than I do. If

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Speaker 17: you've got a one o'clock appointment, you're in their chair

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Speaker 17: at one o'clock. And it's something that across the Wingsburg

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Speaker 17: Tennal we really pride ourselves on, whether it's an appointment

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Speaker 17: with the hygienister, whether it's appointment with one of our doctors.

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Speaker 17: The other thing is we now have some expanded hours

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Speaker 17: in the evenings and even even there's some discussion about

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Speaker 17: opening again on some Saturdays for services.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but not you. You're fishing. You're not kidding anybody. It's

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Speaker 2: not you going to be working on Saturday.

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Speaker 17: I'm in my thirty third year and it should be

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Speaker 17: the young gun.

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Speaker 2: That's right. You've earned it. You've earned it.

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Speaker 17: I feel like I have thank you.

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Speaker 12: Could the fate of the world, of humanity itself be

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Speaker 12: somehow tied to this place?

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Speaker 17: But long last, we have peace in the Middle East.

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Speaker 18: Israel and Christians are coming together in a way they

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Speaker 18: have never been before.

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Speaker 2: Is this the end of huss and radical Islam? The

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Speaker 2: Dragon's prophecy is powerful prophetic. A must see movie ev

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Speaker 2: on Amazon, YouTube and iTunes. There was a flurry of

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Speaker 2: activity at the White House yesterday. You're looking at the

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Speaker 2: White House this morning, a live shot the cranes overhead.

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Speaker 2: It was just a fascinating time to be there, and

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Speaker 2: I was really internalizing it yesterday that the two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fiftyth anniversary of the country, one of the most

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Speaker 2: consequential presidents in American history presiding over government. At this hour,

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Speaker 2: you had these giant cranes swinging over the White House,

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Speaker 2: building a new East Wing, heavy security all over the

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Speaker 2: White House because all the principals were there the day

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Speaker 2: after the State of the Union, and our little show

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Speaker 2: was privileged to be right there in the middle of

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Speaker 2: all of it talking to the principles involved. Moments before

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Speaker 2: the Jdvans Doctor Oz press conference on Fraud and Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: we got to catch up with doctor Oz. Here's the conversation.

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Speaker 2: No trip to Washington is complete unless we stop and

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Speaker 2: talked to doctor Oz. Good to see against Brent.

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Speaker 11: I am so happier. Here has a list of folks

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Speaker 11: that I was going to interview with. Did to see

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Speaker 11: you on the list? And then I finally I saw

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Speaker 11: you over there? Oh my gosh, I can do Christic.

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Speaker 11: I'll show what a coup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see. It feels like now when I come

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Speaker 2: to DC, if I don't have you on, I feel

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Speaker 2: like I've let everybody down. They love hearing from you.

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Speaker 2: Were you in the house last night?

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Speaker 11: I was not in my security team the fighty. He

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Speaker 11: said where'd you being? And I said, I mean at home?

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Speaker 11: Good because we were asked for designated survivors.

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Speaker 2: How many designated survivors do you have? Because this is

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Speaker 2: really amazing. Even since you and I have talked, the

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Speaker 2: Maha agenda man has just cranked up to a ten.

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Speaker 2: I mean the food pyramid has been flipped upside down

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Speaker 2: since I saw you last, and that was just a

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Speaker 2: few months ago.

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Speaker 11: Well, the food pairment is a good example. Secretary is

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Speaker 11: passionate about this material. Folks will know this. I'll share

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Speaker 11: something with you. We have a group text with me

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Speaker 11: and Marty McCarey and Jabotushari let me the leadership of

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Speaker 11: different agencies.

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Speaker 2: We get texted all hours.

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Speaker 11: I got one last night midnight on some esoteric clinical

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Speaker 11: trial that had done been done showing that a food

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Speaker 11: was not.

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Speaker 2: Good for you.

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Speaker 11: And so there's a debate going on it the wee

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Speaker 11: hours of the morning, which of course only you nerd

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Speaker 11: out on this stuff.

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Speaker 2: But the Bobby, really secondary carrier, really cares.

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Speaker 11: About these issues, and he's neeting this process behind. I'll

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Speaker 11: give you an example outside of food, in the more

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Speaker 11: predictable ways. Within my agency CFS, we pay for Medicare

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Speaker 11: and Medicaid. We actually pay sometimes for organizations to provide

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Speaker 11: medically necessary food as a treatment for an illness. Like

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Speaker 11: if you have diabetes or your obese. Well, historically you

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Speaker 11: could give whatever food you wanted. We just gave you

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Speaker 11: the money.

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Speaker 2: Now we're saying no, we.

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Speaker 11: Want to actually give you food that's good for you

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Speaker 11: based on the food pyramid. If you and I as

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Speaker 11: taxpayers are giving free food to somebody, and this is

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Speaker 11: the same for snap, by the way, for folks, for

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Speaker 11: forty two million people on snap, they should be encouraged

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Speaker 11: pushed to eat healthier food. It's not that I'm trying

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Speaker 11: to take away soft drinks. I just don't want to

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Speaker 11: pay for soft drinks if I know they're worse than

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Speaker 11: the diabetes that I'm trying to give you support on,

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Speaker 11: because I've got to then pay to.

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Speaker 2: Treat the diabetes.

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Speaker 11: So it's a little different if you're off of free

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Speaker 11: willing America and living your good life.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you anything about what you

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Speaker 2: want to eat.

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Speaker 11: I was gonna give you advice, try to help, but

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Speaker 11: your choice. But if I'm paying for you, I think

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Speaker 11: I should get a little involved in whether or not

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Speaker 11: I'm creating more problems with the food I'm selling.

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Speaker 2: You than not. You know, I honestly I have heard

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Speaker 2: I remember growing up, even a kid, I remember hearing

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Speaker 2: that people who you know needed help financially. That's fine,

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Speaker 2: But the idea that they would be buying junk food

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Speaker 2: with taxpayer subsidized moneies, it was a difficult thing for

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Speaker 2: people to digest. So to speak, well, I like that.

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Speaker 2: I like that play our words crismpally here all day.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's like it's it's sort of offensive

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Speaker 2: to taxpayers. Isn't it to see someone who is needs

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Speaker 2: help and that's fine, but that they're frankly more bile

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Speaker 2: obese in some cases eating junk food with taxpayer money.

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Speaker 11: There are two reasons that I would just to emphasize

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Speaker 11: your point because it's excellent. The first is we're suppersizing

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Speaker 11: companies making junk food. We're literally giving them money that

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Speaker 11: from the tech federal treasury so they can make more

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Speaker 11: junk food. And the second fundambent reality is we have

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Speaker 11: to pay for the complications.

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Speaker 2: The most important thing we do in Maha is reduce obesity.

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Speaker 2: If we do that, we'll cut our health care costs

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Speaker 2: it half.

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Speaker 11: The reason where twice is expensive to take care of

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Speaker 11: per capita than any European country is because we're twice

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Speaker 11: as fat as any European country, and so we can

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Speaker 11: deal with these underlying healthcare preventive issues.

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Speaker 2: What can of steep's a ton of money. I know

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Speaker 2: that you do a great deal on social media where

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Speaker 2: you actually do message people just on general health and

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Speaker 2: how people get healthy. What do you say to people

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Speaker 2: about that? I mean, maybe they're not workout crazed, maybe

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Speaker 2: they're not diet fiends. But you say very simple things

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Speaker 2: like get out walk. I mean, you advocate that kind

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Speaker 2: of thing. It's not you know, it's kind of stuff

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Speaker 2: that your mom would say.

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Speaker 11: But when a doctor says it and then puts a

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Speaker 11: little data behind it, it just gets power. So, for example,

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Speaker 11: the walking issue, the difference between walking ten minutes a

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Speaker 11: day and none at all is massive, and it's much

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Speaker 11: bigger than difference between walking ten minutes a.

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Speaker 2: Day and two hours a day.

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Speaker 11: So just get it going. A little bit will make

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Speaker 11: a change, and I can give you numbers on that.

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Speaker 11: A million woman study named after a study on a

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Speaker 11: million woman. Not a very innovative idea, but it does

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Speaker 11: tell the story was was overwhelmingly supportive of any bit

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Speaker 11: of minor activity. And most people don't even do that.

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Speaker 11: They want to walk to the car. I seem goes

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Speaker 11: for food, people think it's rocket science to make healthy food.

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Speaker 11: In reality, if you eat food that comes out of

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Speaker 11: the ground looking the way it looks when.

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Speaker 2: You read it, that's all we're talking about real food.

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Speaker 2: You've seen some of the and I don't even know

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Speaker 2: the name of it, but I know some people have.

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Speaker 2: There's been great consternation about a particular pesticide that a

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Speaker 2: lot of MAHA advocates are upset about, and I think

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Speaker 2: even the Secretary addressed it on social media recently that

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Speaker 2: it was pretty critical to agriculture, like glycil Sate, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Can you talk about that, because I've seen a lot

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Speaker 2: of MAHA advocates very upset about gleispatee and the President

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Speaker 2: deciding to ride with it.

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Speaker 4: All.

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Speaker 11: The anger by Glyphossate is very understandable as palpable. A

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Speaker 11: lot of people are frustrated that we're in the situation

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Speaker 11: we're in, but let's stick a step back and understand

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Speaker 11: how we got here.

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Speaker 2: And the Secretary acknowledged it by the way.

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Speaker 11: He did his posts say that was brilliant, and I thought,

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Speaker 11: very very thoughtfully explain why there's an issue here, like

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Speaker 11: why would the government be supportive of a toxin that's

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Speaker 11: used to kill weeds if it could be dangerous to

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Speaker 11: humans as well. We're in an addicted situation. We have

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Speaker 11: the entire farming industry being controlled by a belief, but

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Speaker 11: also there's some reality to that belief that you have

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Speaker 11: to use chemicals in order to deal with weeds. If

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Speaker 11: you just suddenly shut it off without any kind of preparation.

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Speaker 11: With any kind of a plan b using the many

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Speaker 11: other possible techniques of dealing with weeds, you're going to

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Speaker 11: destroy farmers who we're already having a problem keeping people

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Speaker 11: in the farming industry. You're going to debramatically elevates food prices. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 11: if you give the system time, it will adapt farmers

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Speaker 11: incredibly innovative people, as you know, hard working salt of

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Speaker 11: the earth literally individuals. Give them tools, fund those alternatives,

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Speaker 11: and they will take advantage of those opportunities. So the

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Speaker 11: administration is putting at billion dollars into regenitive farming money,

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Speaker 11: into research and better ways of killing weeds without hurting people,

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Speaker 11: and also researching exactly what's going on with this pest

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Speaker 11: side maybe other alternatives that might be it might be dangerous,

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Speaker 11: So we want to understand more the ecosystem. In the meantime,

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Speaker 11: if you drive the business to stop making the product

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Speaker 11: and you bankrupt the entire farming industry, you got an issue.

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Speaker 11: That's what the president. The president was forced to decide on,

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Speaker 11: and that's what the secretary was defending him for doing.

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Speaker 11: But believe me, when you putting a billion dollars and

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Speaker 11: then figuring out a better way of making healthy food

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Speaker 11: that shows a commitment.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, how do you deal with it in

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Speaker 2: the system in the meantime.

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Speaker 11: If you have the ability to buy organic food, then

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Speaker 11: that's great, and if you can't, then more and more

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Speaker 11: you'll see it's already starting. The farming industry is moving

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Speaker 11: towards greener ways of making their products.

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Speaker 2: We just need to keep Soap.

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Speaker 11: Supporting it and farming doesn't take place in a year

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Speaker 11: or two or three. We need to send a message

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Speaker 11: throughout the farming sector, which has been done now that

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Speaker 11: this issue with pesticides and herbicides is not going away.

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Speaker 11: We wanted addressed, and we're going to invest in the

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Speaker 11: system to make sure that our farming stays strong while

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Speaker 11: we ensure that Americans feel comfortable that they're not be hurt.

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Speaker 2: There have been two major accomplishments since you and I

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Speaker 2: talked last, in no particular order. There was the massive

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Speaker 2: fraud uncovered in Minneapolis, which I assume is probably more

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Speaker 2: than just Minneapolis, which we can talk about. And prescription

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Speaker 2: drug prices. So you pick which one would you like to.

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Speaker 11: Show a fraud because it's really animated me. It just

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01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 11: be so upset we are stealing money but also the

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Speaker 11: help of our most vulnerable Americans, but have been in

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Speaker 11: Minnesota's reprehensible. They took programs designed to help autistic children

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Speaker 11: and frausters paid moms a thousand dollars a kid to

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Speaker 11: lie that their children had autism so they could actually

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Speaker 11: give them services that weren't required. They took the budget

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Speaker 11: from three million to four hundred million dollars. Listen, when

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Speaker 11: your child has autism, there are a lot of challenges

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Speaker 11: you're going to face. If every neighbor, every child the

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Speaker 11: neighborhods autism, no one has the care that they require.

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Speaker 11: And so we know now in Minnesota there was a

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Speaker 11: very haphazard approach to program integrity, to actually preventing fraud.

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Speaker 11: You know that for having visited with their state agencies

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Speaker 11: and got a fair amount of homework around the program.

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Speaker 2: We wrote them a letter.

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Speaker 11: He said, you know, give us a corrective action plan.

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Speaker 11: What are you going to do to fix this? Wasn't

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Speaker 11: a serious response. We've seen similar problems in California, where

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Speaker 11: there are more hospice centers in Los Angeles County alone than.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the country.

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Speaker 11: It's impossible, and so the people who are trying to

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Speaker 11: do the right thing.

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Speaker 2: Patient advocacy groups.

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Speaker 11: Legitimate hospice owners, legitimate home health care owners are saying,

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Speaker 11: come help us, we're drowning in fraud. Six out of

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Speaker 11: seven of these entities really aren't legitimately helping people. But

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01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 11: they don't charge, you know, they doesn't cost you money

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01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 11: to give no care. So they make pure profits and

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01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 11: roll it in the marketing and drop us out of business.

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Speaker 11: Look at South Florida, it's not just a red state issue.

1547
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 11: South Florida has more durable medical equipment suppliers. They make

1548
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 11: wheelchairs and canes than McDonald's, twenty times more. And so

1549
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 11: we know that they're foreign citizens involved. We know they're

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01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 11: Cubans involved in South Florida. They are Russian mafia involved

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01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 11: in California.

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01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,839
Speaker 2: Political I mean, I remember in New Jersey the infamous

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01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: case of the former Senator Menendez and his eye doctor friend.

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01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: There was tremendous fraud, and that's in that case, correct,

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01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: people domber that.

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Speaker 11: I remember the story vividly, you know, I think, Look,

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01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 11: we're a country who shares values. That's what the that

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01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 11: defines to me what an American is. My father came

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01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 11: from from Turkey as a doctor. He was recruited to

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01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 11: come here, but he immediately adopted American values because there

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 11: were his values all along.

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Speaker 2: That's why he came here.

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Speaker 11: If people don't share our values and stealing money from

1564
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 11: the government is the norm in your country, you might

1565
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 11: try here as well.

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01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: And during COVID, we made it.

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01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 11: Really easy to steal from the government, so we weaponized

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01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 11: these processes. We're going to do the weaponization back right

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01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 11: at and we're using AI technology tools at aggressive stance

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01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 11: to President last night said he's anointing Second Vice President

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Speaker 11: evnce As as the lead warrior on the battle on fraud.

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Speaker 11: We're taking this seriously. President is very animated by this problem.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Good to be with you. I hope

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Speaker 2: you're well. Thanks a lot for tuning in, Thanks for

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Speaker 2: choosing us. You know, I said yesterday on social media,

1576
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Speaker 2: and I mean this from the bottom of my heart.

1577
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 2: I was flying home from DC yesterday considering that this

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Speaker 2: is the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the country

1579
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Speaker 2: and the privilege of being there at the People's House

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Speaker 2: on your behalf talking to the President's cabinet and some

1581
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Speaker 2: of his appointees, and the fact that I'm afforded the

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Speaker 2: privilege of sitting behind a microphone and speaking with you

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Speaker 2: every day, hopefully representing you well to these folks, and

1584
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: asking questions that you would like the answers to. It

1585
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 2: is a privilege. It is such a gift from God

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01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: in this country that we have such a system that

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Speaker 2: powerful people you elect. And it's not always the case,

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Speaker 2: as we've heard even in recent years under Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: and Barack Obama, it's not always the case that they

1590
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: feel they've got to answer to you. But this is

1591
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Speaker 2: an administration, this is a very special time in history.

1592
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Speaker 2: It's a consequential presidency. But whether you care for this

1593
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: president or whether you don't, or the people around him,

1594
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: one thing has been consistently true. It is that is

1595
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: these people want to talk to you. They want to

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: reach you. It is important to them that you hear

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Speaker 2: from them, and they use shows like ours as a

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Speaker 2: vessel to do that. It is a privilege and a

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Speaker 2: blessing that we live in a country with a system

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Speaker 2: like this that our most powerful elected leaders welcome us

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Speaker 2: to the White House, your house to ask questions of

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01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 2: them and they have to answer. That doesn't happen in

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Speaker 2: most of the world, and sadly sometimes it doesn't happen

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Speaker 2: in this country. But we are very very lucky, in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, and blessed it is our right. It's not

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01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 2: just luck, but we are fortunate that we have a

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Speaker 2: president and an administration that feels responsible to you and

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Speaker 2: respects that responsibility to you as kind of I'd buy

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Speaker 2: our amazing founders who had the foresight to understand the

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Speaker 2: importance of transparency and free speech, the ability to speak

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Speaker 2: and address your government as we have the privilege to

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Speaker 2: do here in a scenario like yesterday. So thanks for

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01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 2: allowing me to be a little part of that. It

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Speaker 2: just really washed over me yesterday as I was walking

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Speaker 2: the White House grounds and seeing the East Wing being built,

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01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 2: considering the state of the Union that had just happened,

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Speaker 2: the transformative nature of what we're going through as a

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Speaker 2: country right now, both good and bad. It's a big time,

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Speaker 2: it's a consequential time, and it's just a real honor

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Speaker 2: to be a small part of it. I thank you

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Speaker 2: for the privilege. I sincerely do street tough. Scott Vesson

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Speaker 2: give me number eighty five. Touting the strengths and the

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Speaker 2: evergrowing strength of the economy.

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Speaker 19: I can tell you the President never stops working for

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Speaker 19: the American people. And I think he made the point

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Speaker 19: that he has brought down crisis, he has brought down

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Speaker 19: mortgage rates, the large tax cuts. You know, I'm also

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Speaker 19: the IRS Commissioner. I can tell you the seven percent

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Speaker 19: of the returns we're getting. Christen have one of his

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Speaker 19: four signature policies, no tax and tips, no tax in overtime,

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Speaker 19: no tax and Social Security deductibility of auto loans. So

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Speaker 19: Americans are feeling that and I think we will see

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Speaker 19: We're going to have very large refunds and Americans will

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Speaker 19: change their withholding. And I think that they are going

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Speaker 19: to see it. We saw a big jumpy way above

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Speaker 19: expectations and consumer confidence today and the important thing was

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Speaker 19: it's in the Ford expectations. So if the Democrats want

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Speaker 19: to run on the economy in November, bringing on.

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Speaker 2: Bringing on, feeling good today, I hope you are too.

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Speaker 2: the beautiful sunrise this morning as they walk the beach

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Speaker 2: We talked yesterday to a gentleman that I didn't know

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Speaker 2: anything about. To be perfectly honest, I didn't know what

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Speaker 2: this position was. Kyle Diamantis is the Deputy Commissioner for

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Speaker 2: Human Foods, and I thought, what in the world is

1671
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Speaker 2: this when the White House offered him to us, and

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Speaker 2: then it occurred to me. We talked with doctor Oz

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Speaker 2: a little earlier. You heard that conversation about this glyphas glysophe.

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Speaker 2: What's it called again, Bob, I always forget the name

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Speaker 2: of the term. It's yeah, the stuff that people know

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Speaker 2: is round up glyphysate. Thank you. The Maha moms are

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Speaker 2: really angry that President Trump moved to protect it, and

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Speaker 2: so I thought, well, this would be a great opportunity

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Speaker 2: to ask these guys, do they know how angry a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are about it and what are they

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Speaker 2: doing about it? This was an interesting conversation about our

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Speaker 2: food in the country. Here's Kyle Deemantis. You know, when

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Speaker 2: it comes to food in this country, I would never

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Speaker 2: have thought, when you're talking about Donald Trump, that food

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Speaker 2: would become such a cornerstone issue and animate so many voters.

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Speaker 2: But boy has it. And Kyle Diamantis, who is the

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Speaker 2: Deputy Commissioner for Human Foods that HHS, joins us and

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Speaker 2: this is a real pleasure to meet you. First of all,

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Speaker 2: great to be with you. Thanks for having me on

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Speaker 2: this subject of food.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: I really like in all of politics, I never would

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Speaker 2: have thought food, food quality, what's in our food would

1694
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: ever be a presidential issue, but man, has it been,

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Speaker 2: and it's really animated Moms.

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Speaker 4: It has and you know, it has its moment, right,

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Speaker 4: So food is sort of having its moment in the

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Speaker 4: media landscape as you talked about. You know, when I

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Speaker 4: first started, there were people that came up to me

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Speaker 4: and said FDA. They thought the f stood for federal

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Speaker 4: instead of Food and Drug Administration. So I always say,

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01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 4: were really grateful to be putting the f back and

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Speaker 4: FDA having food back in the national spotlight. And to

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Speaker 4: your point, it is having its moment. It's become something

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Speaker 4: that people are really passionate about. And the polling shows

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Speaker 4: that eighty ninety percent of people care about food, care

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Speaker 4: about labeling, care about what we're putting into our bodies,

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Speaker 4: our children's bodies, and this is a bipartisan issue and

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Speaker 4: one that every American should care about.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody kind of thought about their diet and health,

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Speaker 2: but there's a unique focus on it now. Food dies,

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Speaker 2: what we're putting on our food. What happened? How is

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Speaker 2: it that we suddenly became so passionate about it when

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Speaker 2: maybe even twenty years ago, it was like, well that

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Speaker 2: probably is great for you, but we didn't think about

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Speaker 2: it like we do now.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think Secretary Kennedy deserves a lot of credit

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Speaker 4: for elevating the food issues bringing into the public sphere.

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Speaker 4: To your point, I think I think moms and dads

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Speaker 4: sort of thought about like, hey, maybe I shouldn't feed

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Speaker 4: my kidness. But it's always been about convenience, right, and

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01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 4: you're on the run in the morning, Let me just

1724
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 4: pop that waffle in there and throw some sugar on it.

1725
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 4: But Secretary can in this administration, with President Trump's support

1726
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 4: and endorsement, have really said, let's step back and take

1727
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 4: a look about what we're doing to our bodies and

1728
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 4: what we're doing to our children's bodies. And so there's

1729
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 4: a lot of work we're doing at FDA and AJHS

1730
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 4: to address these issues who dies As a classic example

1731
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 4: of that, we also released in January the Dietary Guidelines

1732
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 4: for Americans, the Food Pyramid, the new food Pyramid, flipped

1733
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,879
Speaker 4: upside down, flipped it upside down.

1734
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 2: Turned it on its head.

1735
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 4: This is a once every five years project, so we're

1736
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 4: grateful to be able to do it in this administration.

1737
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 4: It's a joint project with AJHS and USDA, and it's

1738
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 4: really reformed the food system in America and it ultimately

1739
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 4: will you know, this is going to impact things like

1740
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 4: school meals, SNAP and Wick federal programs. You might not

1741
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 4: know your listeners might not know this. The United States

1742
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 4: Department of Agriculture. Every day, for their nutritional programs, whether

1743
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 4: it's school lunches, SNAP, Wick, other programs, they send four

1744
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars a day out the door to pay

1745
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 4: for nutrition in this country. And so if we can

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01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 4: meaningfully change that by making those foods they're paying for

1747
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 4: just a little bit healthier, we can address some of

1748
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 4: these problems we have as a country when it comes

1749
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 4: to our chronic disease crisis.

1750
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: The establishment medical communities like the AMA, generally speaking, have

1751
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 2: they received the work you guys are trying to do

1752
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: well or have they been combative? I've read at times

1753
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 2: they're combative, certainly on things like shots, vaccines, But how

1754
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 2: about food.

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01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 4: You know, I would say we have a little bit

1756
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 4: of a white flag area on food.

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01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 17: You know.

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01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 4: When we announced the new dietary guidelines for Americans, we

1759
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 4: had the President of the AMA with us at the

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01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 4: White House on stage applauding the release of these dietary

1761
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 4: guidelines and our focus on eating real food. What we're

1762
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 4: saying for the first time is that Americans should be

1763
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 4: focused on eating those foods that we've always eaten right

1764
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 4: before these ultra processed foods really became a nero diet.

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01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 4: The average kit nowadays seventy percent of their calories comes

1766
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 4: from eating ultra processed foods. Seventy percent. If you go

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01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 4: to most countries in Europe and Asia, it's under twenty percent.

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01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: I hear this all the time. Europe eats differently than

1769
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: we do. I mean, I've been to Europe a couple

1770
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 2: of times, but not enough to be an expert on this. Yeah,

1771
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 2: that the things they eat just don't look like, don't

1772
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: taste like, don't They're.

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01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 4: More passionate about their food. They pay double they spend

1774
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 4: double on food than we do in America, and they

1775
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 4: spend three times less on healthcare costs. So there's something

1776
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 4: to that. You know, they're eating better food, spending less

1777
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 4: on health care. We're paying less for food, spending way

1778
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 4: more on healthcare. And so you know, it is a

1779
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 4: passion there. Obviously they have different regulatory schemes, but they

1780
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 4: pay more money for quality foods there. And that's not

1781
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 4: to say that we can't afford quality foods here in America.

1782
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 4: In fact, the dietary guidelines for Americans that say eat

1783
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 4: real food. If you go to a grocery store, you

1784
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 4: buy a protein, you buy fruits and vegetables, you go

1785
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 4: home and cook that for your family of four. It

1786
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,600
Speaker 4: costs less money than going out and eating takeout or

1787
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 4: going to a restaurant for your same family of four.

1788
01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 4: So by changing your diet adopting these dietary guidelines, not

1789
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 4: only are families across America going to put more money

1790
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 4: into their pocket through savings, but the healthcare savings that

1791
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,759
Speaker 4: the federal government will realize from reducing those chronic disease

1792
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 4: rates is and the billions upon billions of dollars.

1793
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's doing it nefariously necessarily. But again,

1794
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: I never really thought about big food. We talk about

1795
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 2: big pharma or big other things, but food was never

1796
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 2: something that I thought about. Everybody wants to make a

1797
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: buck in business. But is it just what is it?

1798
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 2: What has caused the food industry to deteriorate for us

1799
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 2: the way?

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01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,879
Speaker 4: I really don't think that it was intended for nefarious purposes.

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01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 4: In fact, if you go back to sort of the

1802
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 4: post World War two Baby boom generation, the federal government

1803
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 4: said to the you know what big food if you

1804
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 4: want to call it that. They said, hey, look we're

1805
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 4: moving into suburbs, we want to stock the pantry.

1806
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,799
Speaker 2: We need these foods for national security. We're entering the cold.

1807
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 4: Ward era, cold war era, and the government said, hey,

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01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 4: make these foods that are more shelf stable for us,

1809
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 4: these foods that can last a little longer in the

1810
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 4: pantry and the refrigerator. So the food industry answered that

1811
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 4: call for idealistic purposes. The problem is, if you go

1812
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 4: back to the nineteen forties, fifties, sixties, we didn't have

1813
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 4: the knowledge that we have now about the potential harms

1814
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 4: that some of these foods have, Whether it's from the

1815
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 4: access sugar, the excess sodium, the refined carbohydrates, or some

1816
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 4: of the additives, the stabilizers and multifiers, things like that.

1817
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 4: So we're only now beginning to understand better what it

1818
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 4: is in these foods that are potentially problematic.

1819
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 2: Shelf stability, while it was the goal, did not make

1820
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: us healthier. There were things to make things shelf stable

1821
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 2: that have been bad for us. Well, that's right.

1822
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 4: Their sole intent was to make food last longer in

1823
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 4: the pantry or the refrigerator, and potentially without understanding the

1824
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 4: health impacts that that might have on us. So that's

1825
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 4: something this administration is really focused on, is to look

1826
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 4: at those additives and say is this something we actually need. Now,

1827
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 4: there's obviously a balancing act there. The science has to

1828
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 4: be vigorous, and so we're doing all those processes, but

1829
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 4: you know it's and look, I want to say that

1830
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 4: industry on food dies, for example, has answered the call.

1831
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: They've done that for a number of reasons. One, we've

1832
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 4: used our powers to compel that. But they're also responsive.

1833
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 4: And this is what's great about the MOHA movement. They're

1834
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 4: responsive to the consumer. Consumers talk with their wallets as

1835
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 4: you know, food industry is incredibly responsive to consumer demand.

1836
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 4: Consumers aren't demanding these products anymore that have you know,

1837
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 4: they're glowing pink or glowing green, right. They want a

1838
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 4: natural alternative, a healthier product. And so industry is both

1839
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 4: answering our call but also responding to the demand from

1840
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 4: consumers to change these products.

1841
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: I tell you what I have noticed in marketing in

1842
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 2: just the last few months. Protein, protein, protein. Everyone is

1843
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: talking about protein. Now do you think that's driven by

1844
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: this administration?

1845
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 4: It's absolutely the result of the new dietary guidelines, which

1846
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 4: have promoted almost doubling of the amount of protein that

1847
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 4: the average consumer should. Now, I do want to just

1848
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 4: say the American people should be mindful of how they're

1849
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 4: getting that protein. You know, they're just adding protein to

1850
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 4: a sugar beverage that's got one hundred grams of sugar

1851
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 4: in it. That's not the ideal way to get your protein, right.

1852
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 4: You want to be eating the chicken, the beef. Absolutely

1853
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 4: fine to get protein from other sources, so ready to

1854
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 4: may drink, but Americans should be And I've noticed that

1855
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 4: boom To have walked through Target and yeah, you know,

1856
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 4: the Middle row has seven different new you know, advertisements.

1857
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,480
Speaker 2: For protect food places. Now we're talking about protein.

1858
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 4: Everywhere everywhere, So people should just be mindful that there

1859
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 4: is some marketing as part of that to capitalize on

1860
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 4: what the dietary guidelines are promoting. And people should really

1861
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 4: just make sure they're not getting those from foods that

1862
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 4: also have a lot of sugars and other things in

1863
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 4: it too.

1864
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 2: I asked Oz about this. The Secretary has commented on

1865
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 2: it on social media and Oswell explained why glythosphate something

1866
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 2: that I didn't know anything about. But I've seen a

1867
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 2: lot of Maha moms on social media very upset this

1868
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 2: is still used and that the President said we still

1869
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 2: need to use it. The Secretary when on social media

1870
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: and said it is a problem. We should be rid

1871
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 2: of it, but it would be a terrible detriment to

1872
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 2: the economy right now, and we really can't just turn

1873
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 2: it off like a switch. Is that about right?

1874
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1875
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 4: And let me just say, you know what I would

1876
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 4: say in response to those Maha moms and dads who

1877
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:23,879
Speaker 4: are passionate about this, is that the movement is not linear.

1878
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 4: Successful societal movements in general go back to the Civil

1879
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 4: rights movement, suffrage, any movement you want to look at.

1880
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 4: It's never just a vertical linear line. There's going to

1881
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 4: be troughs where issues happen. This is an issue that

1882
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 4: I think most of the Maha movement is upset about.

1883
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 4: But there will be other ones in the future where

1884
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 4: we reverse trends and we do things that the Maha

1885
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 4: movement will love.

1886
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 2: So we want to literally on the radar.

1887
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 4: It's on the radar. The Maha movement should stick with

1888
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,600
Speaker 4: us on this. We understand the passion there, but just

1889
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 4: know that this is a long term trajectory for the

1890
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 4: Mahab movement. It's something the Secretary in the administration or

1891
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 4: absolutely committed to. This may be viewed as a setback,

1892
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 4: but the Maha movement will continue and we'll continue to

1893
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 4: accelerate our goals.

1894
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 2: Final question, in getting everybody more fit and thin, is

1895
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 2: it also a requirement that all of you have thinner ties?

1896
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 6: Well?

1897
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 2: You know what the secretary actually this is his personal tie. Really,

1898
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 2: I was going to say, it looks like actually buy time.

1899
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 2: I really, where does he get them? I don't even

1900
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 2: know how you get a tie.

1901
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 4: She has some custom weight, so he buys, he buys

1902
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 4: the skinny tie and then has a tailor make him

1903
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 4: even skinnier.

1904
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 2: You can't. No, I'm glad to know it, because you

1905
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 2: can't find those. So that's his That's a Kennedy tie.

1906
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 2: That's a Kennedy tie. Just for it with mister Diamantis.

1907
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 2: He told me after that interview was over that tie,

1908
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 2: that RFK Junior tie. Aty those skinny ties. As it

1909
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 2: turns out, it is true. RFK Junior has to make

1910
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 2: them special because you cannot buy a tie that skinny.

1911
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 2: I said, seriously, where do they come from? He goes, no,

1912
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 2: he has them specially made. He sends them to a

1913
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 2: woman out of the country that used to work for him,

1914
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 2: and she's a seamstress. He buys ties that he likes

1915
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 2: that are already skinny, sends them to her. She then

1916
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 2: monkeys with them and makes them even more thin and

1917
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 2: sends them back to him. Little little inside Baseball, I

1918
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 2: learned about his wardrobe if you were curious, very very interesting.

1919
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:22,520
Speaker 7: I had not considered wardrobe the way that.

1920
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 2: This past this past year has been interesting.

1921
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 7: I've never considered wardrobe before, but now I'm noticing everything

1922
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 7: and yeah, that's a skinny.

1923
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,560
Speaker 2: I never you can't the tie is you know I

1924
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 2: wear a tie most days now, and they don't make

1925
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 2: I mean, ties are skinny. They go through phases where

1926
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 2: they're very fat or skinnier wearing a skinnier tie guy phase,

1927
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 2: but not that skinny. That's like, as I was saying

1928
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 2: during the break, that's like Shop Class nineteen fifty ti

1929
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 2: clip horn rimmed glasses, skinny. Kind of a throwback to

1930
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 2: his dad, I think, or something. So that must be what.

1931
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 2: You can't buy a tie like that that I know of.

1932
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 2: I go for color speaker, yeah, something bright. Yeah. We

1933
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 2: were talking yesterday about the fraud in Minnesota. There's also

1934
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 2: a lot of fraud and corruption inside the FBI, obviously,

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Speaker 2: Cash Patel and the FBI big report busted open yesterday,

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Speaker 2: Operation Arctic Frost and the surveillance and the spying on

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Speaker 2: Trump sympathetic Trump adjacent Trump supporting officials in Washington, DC

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Speaker 2: more expensive than first thought. Here's John Solomon listen to this.

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Speaker 18: Just a few minutes ago, FBI officials confirmed to Just

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Speaker 18: the News that the bureau spied on its former or

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Speaker 18: its future director, Cash Matel back when he was a

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Speaker 18: private citizen in twenty two twenty three, by getting his

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Speaker 18: phone records that's right. He wasn't the only one around

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Speaker 18: President Trump that that happened to him. They also did

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Speaker 18: it to current White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles.

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Speaker 18: Sources telling us that both of those phone records seizures

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Speaker 18: were through grand jury subpoenas, and we're focused on allegations

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Speaker 18: involving the classified documents case against President Trump. That's the

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Speaker 18: one that eventually led to the raid at mar Lago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the story from justinews dot com the FBI

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Speaker 2: obtaining phone records for its now director and the subpoena

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Speaker 2: for the phone records was issued as part of the

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Speaker 2: investigation into Trump's classified documents mar Lago deal. Susie Wilds,

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Speaker 2: the now White House Chief of Staff, was also part

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Speaker 2: of the phone records seizure. Patel telling Reuters that the

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Speaker 2: bureau subpoenas were an example of federal overreach by unelected officials.

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Speaker 2: And then this today. This happened yesterday after this report

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Speaker 2: was released. Cash Pattel is ordering the firing of at

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Speaker 2: least ten FBI staffers at the agency who were involved

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Speaker 2: in the federal investigation into his Trump's document case. That's

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Speaker 2: according to multiple reports yesterday citing unnamed sources. CNN reported

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Speaker 2: that the firings are part of a wider internal investigation

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Speaker 2: into actions taken in the classified documents case. So that

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Speaker 2: was a big development yesterday. In addition to the fraud

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Speaker 2: that was uncovered in Minnesota, Vice President Vance named sort

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Speaker 2: of the frauds are in this administration. He and doctor

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Speaker 2: Oz tackling Minnesota and other states who are stealing taxpayer money.

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Speaker 2: Cash Patel, you know a lot of you have reached

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Speaker 2: out to me and said, when are people going to

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Speaker 2: start paying? When are we going to start to see

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Speaker 2: real punishment? Cash Patel now rooting out at least ten

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Speaker 2: more employees in the FBI who targeted Trump folks. So

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Speaker 2: that's a development, a big one to keep a watch on.

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Speaker 2: And will Moore come this year? Look, I asked people

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Speaker 2: up there yesterday on both Capitol Hill as well as

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Speaker 2: at the White House, conversations that didn't air here, I've

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Speaker 2: got them all in my podcast over the next couple

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Speaker 2: of days, extended conversations that you may have missed. Stay

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Speaker 2: insights and conversations from our trip to Washington. Glad you

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Speaker 2: were with us. We'll do a Friday Tomorrow open line Friday.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait to hear from you. So that's a wrap

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