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Speaker 1: Welcome to Christian Parent Crazy World, the podcast that tackles

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Speaker 1: tough topics to help you be a godly parent in

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Speaker 1: an ungodly world. I am your host, Katherine Seegers, and

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, we are going to explore a vitally

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Speaker 1: important question. How do we find quality children's programming that

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Speaker 1: does more than simply entertain our kids or keep them

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Speaker 1: safe from inappropriate content? Like, How do we find shows

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Speaker 1: that actually teach our children biblical truth, cultivate godly character,

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Speaker 1: and reinforce the lessons we're working so hard to instill

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Speaker 1: in them as parents? Yeah, that's a tall order. Because

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Speaker 1: the media our children consume is shaping the way they

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Speaker 1: see the world, the values they embrace, and even their

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Speaker 1: understanding of God. What if we could be more intentional

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Speaker 1: about choosing content that doesn't just fill their time, but

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Speaker 1: actually supports our efforts to educate them, disciple them, and

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Speaker 1: point them toward Jesus. Well, we can do that. And

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Speaker 1: that is the ground we're going to cover in this

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Speaker 1: episode of Christian Parent Crazy World. You know, moms and dads,

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Speaker 1: finding quality entertainment for our kids can be a real challenge. challenge,

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Speaker 1: whether we're looking for something to keep them occupied on

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Speaker 1: a long road trip, or we needed a few minutes

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Speaker 1: to take a shower or make a meal, or we

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Speaker 1: want to supplement our Bible study and our children's education.

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Speaker 1: We want resources that do more than just keep our

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Speaker 1: kids entertained. We want content that nourishes them spiritually, that

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Speaker 1: reinforces biblical truth and supports the work we're doing to

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Speaker 1: educate and disciple our children. Think about it this way.

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Speaker 1: You know, some foods are toxic and we obviously want

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Speaker 1: to avoid those, but other foods are just empty calories.

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Speaker 1: They may not hurt us, but they're not nourishing us either.

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Speaker 1: The same is true of our kids' entertainment. If we're

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Speaker 1: feeding their minds a steady diet of junk food or

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Speaker 1: empty calories, we are missing a tremendous opportunity because there

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Speaker 1: is highly nutritious, biblically grounded entertainment out there that can

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Speaker 1: nourish our children's souls while entertaining them. But how do

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Speaker 1: we find it? My guest today is Jess Wolstenholm, Vice

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Speaker 1: technology company that is dedicated to helping Christian kids and

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Speaker 1: families experience Jesus every day through quality content. Jess holds

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Speaker 1: a master's degree in education, and she brings 25 years

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Speaker 1: also the editor and executive producer of the award-winning Minnow

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Speaker 1: Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids, which you're going to

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Speaker 1: hear about in this episode. I'm so excited to talk

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Speaker 1: to Jess about what makes children's programming truly valuable, how

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Speaker 1: it can be a wonderful resource available to families and

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Speaker 1: and how we can use media more intentionally to support

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Speaker 1: our children's faith and learning. So with that said, I

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Speaker 1: will take you to my conversation with Jess Wolstenholme. Jess,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Christian Parent Crazy World. I'm so excited to

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Speaker 1: have you here today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm excited for our conversation.

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Speaker 1: I am too. Right now, as we speak, my children

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's amazing. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Because sometimes as parents, we need a little something to

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Speaker 2: We need a break. That's right.

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Speaker 1: We need a break. We may need to go get

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Speaker 1: a little work done. We may need to do some

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Speaker 1: And sometimes we need to put something in front of

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully it's wholesome. But not only wholesome, but just

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Speaker 1: actually something that can be a source of conversation later

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Speaker 1: or something biblically sound. And we can do it together

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Speaker 1: as a family. We've been doing it a lot together.

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Speaker 1: I started our day, our homeschool day today off. with

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's so great. I love that. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: So before we get into all that, though, you have

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Speaker 1: in ministry, education, curriculum development, and publishing, including serving as

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Speaker 1: the editor. This was so cool, of the Minnow Laugh

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Speaker 1: It was so cute. Brand new.

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Speaker 1: It's adorable.

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Speaker 1: What have all those years of working with children and

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Speaker 1: families taught you about how kids actually learn about God?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, I think the biggest thing I took

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Speaker 2: long-term faith formation. So if we are presenting a God

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Speaker 2: they are going to feel comfortable with or want to

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Speaker 2: get to know. Now, that's not to say that God

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Speaker 2: All those things are true. He is holy. It matters

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Speaker 2: what we do. But their introduction to him needs to

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Speaker 2: they get to know his ways. And they learn how

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Speaker 2: to walk in those ways. And so for me, you know,

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Speaker 2: being around lots of different curriculum and lots of different

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Speaker 2: my kids' upbringing, that was what was so important to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you do that so well. We've been

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Speaker 1: starting off our days with the Jesus Storybook Bible devotions

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Speaker 1: on minimum. Because we've been using that. Okay, we tore

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Speaker 1: up that Bible. Not on purpose. We just used it

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Speaker 1: background's in theater, so I love reading those stories because

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Speaker 1: they're so theatrical. Beautiful.

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Speaker 1: But then I think I knew they had, I guess

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Speaker 1: I think it's Sir David Suchet is the British award-winning actor.

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Speaker 1: Narrates that.

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Speaker 2: It's powerful.

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Speaker 1: It's so powerful. And my kids... are just riveted. We

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Speaker 1: I know it's beautiful. So was there a moment when

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Speaker 1: you realized that children's media could be a really powerful

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Speaker 2: Um, know if it was a specific moment per se, but,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's classics like Veggie Tales. That's what a

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Speaker 2: you know, Minnow came about in 2019 because our founder

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Speaker 2: and CEO, Eric Goss, he had three girls at home

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Speaker 2: that he homeschooled, and he wanted them to have a

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Speaker 2: place where they could experience just good, rich media that

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Speaker 2: really nurtured their Christian imagination, that that allowed them to

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Speaker 2: experience stories, but also experience, you know, the love of God,

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Speaker 2: the love of Jesus, and get to know him. And so,

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Speaker 2: you know, he was really the forerunner in that. And

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Speaker 2: there were some shows out there like VeggieTales. What's in

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Speaker 2: the Bible is another one that Phil Vischer, who created VeggieTales,

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Speaker 2: he created that, What's in the Bible, and that's also

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Speaker 2: get this out. DVDs are going away, right? And streaming

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Speaker 2: have a place where kids could come that was a

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Speaker 2: we started to really research and really pay attention to

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Speaker 2: how kids learn and what is the most powerful avenues

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Speaker 2: for them to learn. And I think Reading is so

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Speaker 2: important and we never want to replace that. It's one

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Speaker 2: of the reasons why we have on-screen and off-screen resources.

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Speaker 2: It's why all of our Bible stories appear in a

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Speaker 2: storybook Bible and they're animated. Because I think when kids

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Speaker 2: so that's the thing that is so important. powerful about

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Speaker 2: what if kids could learn through media? And so we're

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Speaker 2: asking the question, what if kids can learn the Bible

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Speaker 2: was also a forerunner in that, right? He wanted kids

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Speaker 1: My son, by the way, is upstairs. He's 11 now.

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Speaker 1: He's watching VeggieTales right now. I love it. He's so

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Speaker 1: excited to see that whole library on there because you

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Speaker 2: No, you don't. It's so fun. I know.

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Speaker 1: The second you mention it, I start singing, oh, where

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Speaker 1: is my airbrush? Oh, where is my airbrush? Oh, where, where, where, where?

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Speaker 1: My daughter and I are singing that. And here's the

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Speaker 1: funny thing. So he's up there watching it in the den,

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Speaker 1: and my daughter, my 16-year-old, is in the kitchen, and

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Speaker 1: she's singing along with all of it because she grew

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Speaker 2: She does, and they don't forget it.

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Speaker 1: Right. Now, I was Mr. Rogers era. That's what I

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Speaker 1: grew up on. And I love how you talk about

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Speaker 1: how you want to do for biblical literacy what Sesame

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Speaker 1: Street did for reading comprehension. We do need that. And

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Speaker 1: our youngest, our littles really need that. And I want

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about spiritual formation because I

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Speaker 1: think as parents, sometimes we may underestimate just how much

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Speaker 1: the media our kids consume is shaping them. We live

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Speaker 1: constantly trying to decide what's appropriate, what's beneficial, what might

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Speaker 1: be influencing their kids in ways they don't even recognize.

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Speaker 1: So how should we as Christian parents think about the

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Speaker 1: role entertainment plays in our kids' spiritual development? Because there's

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Speaker 1: a difference. There's a difference between simply clean content That

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Speaker 1: actually helps our kids grow in wisdom and character and

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Speaker 1: maybe not be spiritually nutritious. So what distinguishes those two things?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure those are conversations you guys have at Minnow

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Speaker 2: We do. Yes, you know, I love that you used

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Speaker 2: the word nutritious because I always look at it like

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Speaker 2: a media diet, you know, and a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: It's on Netflix and Angel right now. We don't have

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Speaker 2: the film yet because Netflix has it. But we are

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Speaker 2: praying because we partnered with them on the Young David series.

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Speaker 2: It was a prequel to the movie. And it was

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Speaker 2: imagining the life of young David, which the Bible doesn't

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Speaker 2: share a ton about. So we did take some creative

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Speaker 2: license in that. But we really stayed true. It was

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Speaker 2: a focus on the character of David. So there's five episodes.

443
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Speaker 2: We have five books that go along with each of

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Speaker 2: those episodes. And it's David as warrior, poet, king, shepherd, worshiper.

445
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Speaker 2: Five character traits of David. And we put him in stories,

446
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Speaker 2: simple stories, where he exhibited that character trait. And that's

447
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Speaker 2: what those shorts are. And they were prequel to the movie.

448
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Speaker 2: And it was just kind of a way to get

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Speaker 2: people excited, to get people to understand the level of

450
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Speaker 2: animation and production that was coming with the film. And

451
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Speaker 2: then the film is just absolutely unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You created the film as well?

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Speaker 2: We didn't create the film. We worked with the team

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Speaker 2: that created the film to do the shorts. And then

455
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Speaker 2: we helped with the film on the business side of things.

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Speaker 2: And we were very kind of connected to the team

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Speaker 2: that did it. But we did not create the film.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to claim that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, the shorts, are you going to do

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Speaker 1: more of those? Or is it just the five?

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Speaker 2: We hoped. We hope to.

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Speaker 1: I hope you do, too, because I was blown away, man. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the the cinematography on that, the animation on that. I

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Speaker 1: was like just in the opening scene. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: that I'm not well versed in all of that, but

466
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Speaker 1: I was sure. It was incredible.

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Speaker 2: But you can tell it's good, right? You can tell

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Speaker 2: it's good.

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Speaker 1: No, it was great. Like the highest quality.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the stories are beautiful. We've been watching the– I've

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Speaker 1: been watching them with my kids. And, of course, they

473
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Speaker 1: have seen The Young David. I've been in the process

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Speaker 1: of moving for a long time. I told you about

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Speaker 1: it before. Yes. I haven't seen it yet. But I've

476
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Speaker 1: got a date with my youngest daughter. Amazing. We're going

477
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Speaker 1: to sit down and do that. watch that together. But

478
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Speaker 1: I love that. And I love that it's on your,

479
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Speaker 1: on Minnow. You can watch it anytime. So there's the

480
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Speaker 1: five there and hopefully, hopefully in the future.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we get the film once. Yes.

482
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Speaker 1: And then also maybe some more of those because they're incredible. Yes.

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Speaker 2: And maybe some other characters. We hope to do some

484
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Speaker 2: other characters that way where we do it kind of,

485
00:26:38,290 --> 00:26:40,930
Speaker 2: we feature their life as a young. And again, that's

486
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Speaker 2: just a way for kids to, to relate to them.

487
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Speaker 2: and then do the full biblical story. So yeah, we

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Speaker 2: hope to do more.

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507
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Speaker 1: that I was thrilled to see is And this is, okay,

508
00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: so the animation is older. It's, let's call it vintage,

509
00:28:09,340 --> 00:28:14,740
Speaker 1: but it ages so well. The Torchlighters series, Heroes of

510
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,330
Speaker 1: the Faith. My daughter, my nine-year-old, is upstairs right now

511
00:28:18,619 --> 00:28:23,530
Speaker 1: watching the one on Gladys Allward. We found that years ago.

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Speaker 1: We found that whole Torchlighters series years ago and started

513
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Speaker 1: watching it. And Gladys Allward is probably not someone most

514
00:28:30,190 --> 00:28:33,950
Speaker 1: of my listeners are familiar with. But she she just

515
00:28:33,970 --> 00:28:36,369
Speaker 1: fell in love with this story of this young British

516
00:28:36,430 --> 00:28:39,060
Speaker 1: kind of housemaid who at the age of 14 determined

517
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Speaker 1: that knew that she wanted to be a missionary to China.

518
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Speaker 1: She really wasn't a great student. She wasn't great with

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Speaker 1: other languages. And she was denied that opportunity. She kept

520
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Speaker 1: applying and they said, no, you're not. You're not who

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Speaker 1: we want. And the Lord just opened doors for actually

522
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Speaker 1: to go and be an assistant. To a woman who

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Speaker 1: was ministering in China and that woman passed on and

524
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Speaker 1: she ended up taking over the ministry. And her story

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00:29:02,250 --> 00:29:05,210
Speaker 1: is incredible. They actually made a film years ago. I

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00:29:05,470 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: think Ingrid Bergman starred in it because she was one

527
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Speaker 1: of the women who was an activist who actively she

528
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: went up against the Chinese government contesting the binding of feet.

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Speaker 1: Women's binding of feet in order because they would bind

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Speaker 1: feet because they thought teeny tiny feet were attractive. And

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Speaker 1: so she was a woman who really helped to eradicate

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Speaker 1: that in China. Anyways, my daughter is up there watching

533
00:29:32,590 --> 00:29:34,310
Speaker 1: that right now because we watched it years ago and

534
00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:37,310
Speaker 1: she's fascinated. But there's so many of those stories. We

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Speaker 1: watched the Eric Little. story the other day. We're talking

536
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Speaker 1: about our sons. Your son's all about tennis. My son's

537
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: all about baseball. Eric Little, the Chariot to Fire movie

538
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Speaker 1: was about him and about his journey to the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: And of course, he gets... He's qualified for the Olympics

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Speaker 1: and he can't, he won't run. He can run, but

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Speaker 1: he chooses not to run because the heat was on

542
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:04,420
Speaker 1: a Sunday and he was going to honor God. And

543
00:30:04,460 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: the story is really powerful. But Chariots of Fire ends

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Speaker 1: at the Olympics. The Torchlighter series takes, it goes through

545
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Speaker 1: the Olympics. Yeah, but it goes through his ministry when

546
00:30:15,090 --> 00:30:17,370
Speaker 1: he goes back to China and what happens there. So

547
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Speaker 1: there's a whole host of these wonderful stories.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are wonderful.

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Speaker 1: The animated older, but the stories are so rich and riveting.

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Speaker 1: My kids, I could see my son. I was so

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Speaker 1: excited to show the one about Eric little to my son,

552
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Speaker 1: because look, it's all, it's fine. If God gifted you

553
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Speaker 1: to play this sport, but that has to come second

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Speaker 1: to him. And that was just such a wonderful story

555
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Speaker 1: of that. So I love the idea of introducing children

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Speaker 1: to real people whose faith shaped the way they lived.

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Speaker 1: So talk a little bit about that, that kind of

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Speaker 1: series and that kind of content that you have on Minnow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. The animation is old, but we think

560
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Speaker 2: it's valuable enough that it's worth it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it is.

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of that, right? We love watching

563
00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:07,380
Speaker 2: old movies and we know the quality is not there,

564
00:31:07,420 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: but it's such a great movie. And so we didn't

565
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Speaker 2: want to sacrifice those incredible stories just for that reason.

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Speaker 2: And so, yes, we are so proud to have those

567
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Speaker 2: on Minnow because it's so important for kids, like you said,

568
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Speaker 2: to see how people are living out their faith. And

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Speaker 2: those stories are such powerful conversation starters for kids, for

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Speaker 2: maybe a little bit older kids, upper elementary, middle school kids.

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Speaker 2: Just like you said with your son, hey, it's great

572
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Speaker 2: if you want to be passionate about this, but God's

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00:31:37,910 --> 00:31:40,390
Speaker 2: got to come first. You have to have things in line.

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Speaker 2: And Just being able to see people who lived such

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Speaker 2: brave lives in the name of Jesus can be life-changing

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Speaker 2: for kids because they see that they're not the only one.

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Speaker 2: Or if they are up against something, maybe that makes

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Speaker 2: them fearful or intimidated, you know, just to be inspired

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Speaker 2: by someone who's gone before them. It's why kids learn

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Speaker 2: history in school, right? We learn history in school because

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Speaker 2: So that we can understand how we got to where

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Speaker 2: we are and so that we know how to move

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Speaker 2: forward from here. And so that's why you watch historical

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Speaker 2: shows about inspiring people. You know, you want to know

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Speaker 2: how people have operated in their faith, have gotten to

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Speaker 2: where they are, and it inspires you to move forward

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Speaker 2: from here.

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Speaker 1: It truly does. And I think these kinds of stories,

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Speaker 1: all of these Torchlighter series stories, They really help us

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Speaker 1: get our kids out of our first world bubble.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, definitely.

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Speaker 1: Because my two older kids, my second and my third,

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Speaker 1: they've been on missions trips to Asia twice. And they've

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Speaker 1: gotten that taste of international missions, and they both have

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Speaker 1: a heart for people in other nations. I think you've

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Speaker 1: got the Amy Carmichael story on there, which of course,

597
00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:03,550
Speaker 1: her ministry to India is so powerful. But my younger kids,

598
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Speaker 1: of course, they haven't done that kind of ministry yet

599
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Speaker 1: or missions yet. And I want them to get a

600
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Speaker 1: taste for that. And I really think that this Torchlighter series,

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Speaker 1: Heroes of the Faith, that's going to help whet their

602
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Speaker 1: appetite for that. So not only that, I have to say,

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Speaker 1: you know, this kind of content, she was going to

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Speaker 1: watch it upstairs and I'm like, but I want you

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Speaker 1: to wait for me. Because I want to watch all

606
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Speaker 1: of these stories again. You know, Jim and Elizabeth Elliott,

607
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Speaker 1: they're in our timeline. Yeah, I know. And what a

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Speaker 1: story of sacrifice. We study them in our Christian homeschool curriculum.

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Speaker 1: So this is such an aid. for me as a homeschooler,

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Speaker 1: but you don't have to be a homeschooler for this

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Speaker 1: to be really valuable content because I mean, they're getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of other worldview. If they're going to a

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Speaker 1: public school all day, we need to be counteracting that

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Speaker 1: with the media that they consume. And this is a

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00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: really incredible way to do that. Speaking of though, things

616
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,090
Speaker 1: that can really aid with our education are, Liberty Kids.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love that series. We watched it years ago with

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Speaker 1: my older kids. You've got all of those episodes on here.

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Speaker 1: We do. It is a little older, too.

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Speaker 2: It's also older. We had a fun time screening that.

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Speaker 2: We added it this year for the 250th anniversary. We

623
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Speaker 2: wanted to have some American history on the channel. It's older.

624
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Speaker 1: It's older.

625
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Speaker 2: And I'm just going to be honest with you. So

626
00:34:34,610 --> 00:34:36,850
Speaker 2: you get a little peek into our process. Not every

627
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:40,130
Speaker 2: episode is on there because there are a few episodes.

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Speaker 2: Because it was done so long ago, there are a

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Speaker 2: few episodes talking about our American history that had things

630
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Speaker 2: that we didn't think were appropriate for children. And so

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Speaker 2: we were like, okay, we're going to hold this one

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Speaker 2: back because we don't think that that's– it's not the

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Speaker 2: way we would have done it. And, again, when we're

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Speaker 2: not creating it, it's not going to be the way

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Speaker 2: we would have done it. But even fast forward, I

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Speaker 2: don't remember how old it is. It was probably done

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Speaker 2: in the 80s or 90s. You know, there's just things

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Speaker 2: that we wouldn't do that way. And we thought it

639
00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:14,529
Speaker 2: would be best to not have. So we review every

640
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Speaker 2: episode to look for things like that, to make sure

641
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Speaker 2: that this is not going to be inappropriate for kids

642
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Speaker 2: or whatever. And that was one of them. But All

643
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Speaker 2: that to say, it's fun to have it. I've been

644
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Speaker 2: so amazed at the nostalgia factor because there's so many

645
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: older kids or young parents who watched it when they

646
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Speaker 2: were kids that are just loving it. And it's very

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Speaker 2: nostalgic for me because it just reminds me of what

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Speaker 2: I was watching growing up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. Yeah, you added it for the 250th.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't realized that. But my kids have already done.

651
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Speaker 1: We're in a U.S. history cycle. In our homeschool curriculum.

652
00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:52,830
Speaker 1: So they have already done papers this year on the

653
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:56,370
Speaker 1: Boston Tea Party, on Benjamin Franklin, and they are currently

654
00:35:56,430 --> 00:35:59,890
Speaker 1: doing their second paper on George Washington. And you have

655
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Speaker 1: episodes on all of that material. We watched the Boston

656
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Speaker 1: Tea Party one the other night. And it was really

657
00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:09,509
Speaker 1: fun to see that come to life because they have

658
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Speaker 1: the source material they're reading and the papers they're writing

659
00:36:12,610 --> 00:36:15,780
Speaker 1: and some of the stuff we're discussing in their history curriculum.

660
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Speaker 1: It brings it all to life.

661
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Speaker 2: Yes.

662
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Speaker 1: It's wonderful. So, yeah, I love that you added that.

663
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Speaker 1: There is such a connection between faith, history, and the

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Speaker 1: founding of our nation. We didn't get it all right.

665
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Speaker 1: We screwed up a lot of stuff, and it took

666
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Speaker 1: us a while to get some of it set right,

667
00:36:33,210 --> 00:36:35,780
Speaker 1: and we're still setting things right. That's the amazing thing

668
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: about the way our Constitution was drawn. It's a document

669
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Speaker 1: that can be amended, and there are things that we change,

670
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Speaker 1: but it just opens the door for those really rich conversations.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: We did mention the Jesus Storybook Bible.

673
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Speaker 2: Yes. So fun.

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Speaker 1: That one I really enjoyed using with my kids. We've

675
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: been opening up our devotion because we usually read it

676
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: for a devotional every morning. I'm like, I'm going to

677
00:37:00,580 --> 00:37:02,950
Speaker 1: let Sir David Suchet read this for you. That's right.

678
00:37:02,989 --> 00:37:04,340
Speaker 2: Let him read it out loud.

679
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:07,630
Speaker 1: We're going to let him do it. But let's talk

680
00:37:07,710 --> 00:37:11,230
Speaker 1: about how, you know, even the best of programming, it

681
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:14,410
Speaker 1: can't replace a parent's role in discipling a child. Right.

682
00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:17,950
Speaker 1: but it really can give us something very valuable to

683
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Speaker 1: build on. So how, how can we then take all

684
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Speaker 1: of this amazing, rich, some vintage, some new content that

685
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,940
Speaker 1: you guys are producing in your shows and use that

686
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: experience to nurture our children's faith? How can we expound

687
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Speaker 1: upon that and use it as the springboard to have

688
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: really valuable conversations in our homes?

689
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's exactly what it is, is a springboard.

690
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Speaker 2: We like to call it an entry point. Um, We

691
00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:46,540
Speaker 2: hear from parents all the time that say, I just

692
00:37:46,580 --> 00:37:49,940
Speaker 2: don't know where to start with discipling my kids. I

693
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: didn't grow up in the church. I don't know the Bible.

694
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Speaker 2: And so we love offering them that springboard, that entry

695
00:37:58,140 --> 00:38:00,819
Speaker 2: point where they can say, hey, let's watch this together.

696
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,730
Speaker 2: Or even if, listen, you're not always sitting down and

697
00:38:03,770 --> 00:38:08,690
Speaker 2: watching together. I think shared experiences and co-viewing is really powerful.

698
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: There's research on that. But, you know, a lot of

699
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: times you're in the kitchen cooking dinner and you just

700
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,580
Speaker 2: need your child to be quiet for a little while

701
00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:18,339
Speaker 2: so you can get dinner on the table. And so

702
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:21,820
Speaker 2: they're watching it. But hey, if you're in the type

703
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,529
Speaker 2: of house layout where you can kind of watch, you know,

704
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:27,830
Speaker 2: while you're cooking dinner or at least hear what they're watching,

705
00:38:29,010 --> 00:38:31,509
Speaker 2: that's an opportunity for you later when you sit down

706
00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:34,009
Speaker 2: to say, hey, tell me about what you were watching or,

707
00:38:34,070 --> 00:38:36,930
Speaker 2: you know, what did What was happening in that story?

708
00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:40,730
Speaker 2: It's just a great way to just start conversations. And

709
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Speaker 2: those happen by asking questions. Kids love to tell us

710
00:38:44,830 --> 00:38:47,790
Speaker 2: things that they know or learned, right? They always love

711
00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:51,589
Speaker 2: to know more than we know. And so if you

712
00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:54,390
Speaker 2: say to them, what were you watching? Like, I want

713
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Speaker 2: to hear about that. Tell me that story. They love

714
00:38:56,330 --> 00:38:58,890
Speaker 2: to repeat it back to you. And then from there,

715
00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:03,060
Speaker 2: you can ask questions, you know, that can get a

716
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Speaker 2: conversation rolling. One of the things that I think is

717
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:12,739
Speaker 2: so important for parents is understanding how to turn anything

718
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Speaker 2: into a faith conversation. I think that's a skill that

719
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Speaker 2: takes time to develop and it takes the Holy Spirit's help.

720
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Speaker 2: But as you, you know, yield to him and allow

721
00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:28,129
Speaker 2: him to work through you and even just praying, God,

722
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:30,489
Speaker 2: I want to be able to point my kids to

723
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Speaker 2: you through everything, whether we're on a walk and we

724
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Speaker 2: look at a flower or they're watching a show on

725
00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:39,469
Speaker 2: Minnow or they have an argument with their friend and

726
00:39:39,489 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: they're telling me about it. Like every moment is an

727
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: opportunity to turn it back to a discipleship moment. And so, again,

728
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 2: that's intimidating and a lot of people don't feel equipped

729
00:39:49,780 --> 00:39:52,870
Speaker 2: to do it. But with the help of the Holy Spirit,

730
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Speaker 2: I believe that we can all develop that skill. And

731
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Speaker 2: I think starting with shows, it might be the easiest

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Speaker 2: way to do that because you have something very clear

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Speaker 2: to ask them about a story that they've watched. And

734
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Speaker 2: then as you develop that skill, you can do it

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Speaker 2: in other areas of your life.

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Speaker 1: You know, this morning when we were watching the short

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Speaker 1: on one of the David shorts, at the end of it,

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Speaker 1: it has questions to ask. So if you're struggling with

739
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Speaker 1: finding the questions... start there with the David series because

740
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Speaker 1: it's got the questions at the end for you and

741
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Speaker 1: you can pause it and you can just talk about

742
00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:30,510
Speaker 1: that question. You don't even have to come up with it.

743
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Speaker 1: But like you said, of course the shared viewing experience

744
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Speaker 1: is wonderful. And I personally want to do that because

745
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Speaker 1: I want to watch all of those, go back and

746
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Speaker 1: watch all of the torch lighters and the Liberty kids

747
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Speaker 1: with my, my kids, all of it actually. But you know,

748
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Speaker 1: sometimes like you said, I need to go cook dinner.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the other room. So, Hey, Honey, tell me,

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Speaker 1: what was it about? What was interesting to you? What

751
00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:57,410
Speaker 1: did you learn? What does that tell us about God?

752
00:40:57,469 --> 00:41:01,110
Speaker 1: What does that tell us about Jesus? Lean into his character.

753
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Speaker 1: Just some simple questions like that can really help unpack

754
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Speaker 1: it and make it into a discipling moment for your kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, there are a lot of other kids

757
00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:16,690
Speaker 1: streaming services out there. Some of them are even Christian services.

758
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:20,270
Speaker 1: So what is it then that distinguishes Minnow from the

759
00:41:20,330 --> 00:41:23,570
Speaker 1: other options parents have when it comes to kids Christian programming?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the on-screen, off-screen and the kind of

761
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,930
Speaker 2: holistic approach that we take when you were talking about

762
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Speaker 2: the Young David series with the correct questions at the end,

763
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Speaker 2: that's actually something called our five-minute family devotionals. So Young

764
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Speaker 2: David streams on our platform alone by itself, just those

765
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Speaker 2: five shows. But then we have a version of it

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Speaker 2: called the five-minute family devotional that adds a question and

767
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: a prayer at the end. And we do that for

768
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Speaker 2: a lot of our programming because we want to give

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Speaker 2: parents that entry point. So even our Laugh and Grow

770
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Speaker 2: Bible episodes, The Young David, so many other things. If

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Speaker 2: you look on many, you'll see five-minute family devotionals. And

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like we couched it in a scripture

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Speaker 2: verse at the front, and then you watch the entire episode,

774
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Speaker 2: and then there's a question at the end, question or

775
00:42:22,850 --> 00:42:25,890
Speaker 2: two questions, and then a prayer. And so that's an

776
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Speaker 2: example of one way that we're trying to make media

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Speaker 2: more than just this consumable you know, mindless thing that

778
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Speaker 2: we do. We're trying to give parents those tools that

779
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Speaker 2: they need to engage their kids. And we do that

780
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,210
Speaker 2: through on-screen things like those devotionals, but then we also

781
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:47,210
Speaker 2: have off-screen devotionals. A lot of our shows will have

782
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Speaker 2: like discussion guides with them that we'll send out to

783
00:42:49,690 --> 00:42:54,890
Speaker 2: our members via email so that they have, again, talking points.

784
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Speaker 2: There'll be talking points in that, or it may include

785
00:42:57,860 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 2: coloring sheets and things for younger kids to to kind

786
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: of engage them with the show off screen. I think

787
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Speaker 2: that's the biggest differentiator is our on-screen, off-screen kind of

788
00:43:09,550 --> 00:43:12,210
Speaker 2: holistic approach. And then just the thoughtfulness that we put.

789
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't speak to other people's thoughtfulness, but

790
00:43:14,469 --> 00:43:16,770
Speaker 2: I do know the level at which we kind of

791
00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:23,020
Speaker 2: are going into the intentionality with our theology and the

792
00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:26,510
Speaker 2: way we approach teaching kids about God. I've never known

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Speaker 2: anyone else to do it that well, and I'm really

794
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Speaker 2: proud of that because I think it's going to set

795
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Speaker 2: kids up for just a really healthy journey with Jesus.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't realized all of the on-screen, off-screen counterpoints. I'm

797
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Speaker 1: excited to incorporate some of those into the things that

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Speaker 1: we're doing as well, especially for younger kids who are

799
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Speaker 1: still loving to color and And having, you know, a

800
00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:54,790
Speaker 1: story they can read as well as something visual they

801
00:43:54,810 --> 00:43:56,610
Speaker 1: can see when you can hit it from all of

802
00:43:56,650 --> 00:43:59,020
Speaker 1: these different aspects, it really helps it to bring it

803
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Speaker 1: alive and stick. That's what you want it. We want

804
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: it to stick in our little minnows.

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Speaker 2: We want it to stick.

806
00:44:05,130 --> 00:44:05,830
Speaker 1: Exactly.

807
00:44:05,989 --> 00:44:06,549
Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful. Okay. So as Minnow continues to develop and curate

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Speaker 1: quality Christian content for our kids, what's on the horizon?

810
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Speaker 1: Can we look forward, I guess, so we talked a

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Speaker 1: little bit, hopefully, to some more Young David content? Yes.

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Speaker 1: You've got new productions in the work or other series?

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Speaker 2: We have some new, yeah, we have some new productions

814
00:44:25,219 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: in the works and more coming. And We have some

815
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Speaker 2: new people on our team that I think are going

816
00:44:31,060 --> 00:44:33,259
Speaker 2: to kind of shepherd us into that new season of

817
00:44:33,660 --> 00:44:37,989
Speaker 2: developing more original content. Hoping we can do more Young

818
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:40,730
Speaker 2: David or other characters of the Bible with the same

819
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:44,390
Speaker 2: team we did that one. You know, animation is expensive

820
00:44:44,430 --> 00:44:47,500
Speaker 2: and it takes a long time, but we're just trusting God,

821
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Speaker 2: you know, to lead us to do the right next projects.

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Speaker 2: But you'll always see new content on Minnow, whether we're

823
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Speaker 2: developing it or we license it. We want to give

824
00:44:56,489 --> 00:45:01,060
Speaker 2: our members fresh content every month. And so you'll always

825
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:03,380
Speaker 2: see something new. And the biggest thing that I can

826
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Speaker 2: tell you, though, is for the Laugh and Grow Bible,

827
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Speaker 2: we have 75 episodes now of the Bible complete. And

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Speaker 2: we will have over 200 when we're done. Our goal

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Speaker 2: is to animate pretty much every story in the Bible.

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Speaker 2: for kids. And starting in January of 2027, we're going

831
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Speaker 2: to release one new episode every week. So we've never

832
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Speaker 2: released them that fast. And so every week there'll be

833
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Speaker 2: a new Bible story to engage with, which is really

834
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Speaker 2: exciting for us.

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Speaker 1: That is exciting. That's really exciting. So one a week,

836
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Speaker 1: that is a pretty big pace. I do one podcast

837
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,009
Speaker 1: a week and I can barely keep up with that.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're excited.

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Speaker 1: So as we're bringing this full circle, I'm just curious,

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Speaker 1: like after 25 years of working with children and families,

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Speaker 1: what is your greatest hope then? We see this generation,

843
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Speaker 1: a lot of this, we see a lot of Gen

844
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Speaker 1: Z generation. is struggling in their faith. They're, they're struggling.

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Speaker 1: A lot of them may be wandering far from it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I've got one kid who struggled in her faith as well.

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Speaker 1: And two kids that are just really solid after that. Um,

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Speaker 1: and then I've got two more coming up under that.

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Speaker 1: So what is your, what is your greatest hope for

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Speaker 1: the next generation? I guess you're really your contents for

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Speaker 1: Gen Alpha when it comes to knowing Jesus and understanding

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Speaker 1: his word.

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Speaker 2: My hope is just that, that they would know Jesus

854
00:46:27,130 --> 00:46:30,270
Speaker 2: and understand his word. And like I said in the beginning,

855
00:46:30,350 --> 00:46:33,930
Speaker 2: just to bring it back full circle, is I want

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00:46:33,969 --> 00:46:36,730
Speaker 2: them to have a really healthy view of who Jesus

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00:46:36,890 --> 00:46:40,109
Speaker 2: is and who he can be in their life and

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Speaker 2: how much he loves them and how much of a

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Speaker 2: difference he can make for them. I want them to

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Speaker 2: have a very healthy view of the gospel and not

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Speaker 2: a watered-down view of the gospel. but one that where

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Speaker 2: they understand that, yes, you know, we sin and there

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00:46:57,380 --> 00:47:00,820
Speaker 2: is sin and we have a Savior. And all of

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Speaker 2: that is true, but that doesn't mean you have to

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Speaker 2: live a life riddled with shame. I feel like right

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Speaker 2: now in Christian circles, you know, we have such extremes

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Speaker 2: in our thinking, right? So it's either, we're either going like, nope,

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Speaker 2: we're you know, we're not talking about sin with our

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Speaker 2: kids because we don't want them to develop shame or

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Speaker 2: we're just like, it's all about behavior. And I just

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Speaker 2: feel like there is a third way. There's a middle

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Speaker 2: way where we can stay true to the gospel, to

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Speaker 2: stay true to our need for Jesus, but do it

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Speaker 2: in a really healthy way. And so that's what I

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Speaker 2: want for kids because I've seen kids leave the church

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Speaker 2: because of, and I have friends that have left the

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Speaker 2: church and I have young people, you know, young women

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Speaker 2: and men in my life that have left the church

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Speaker 2: because of that unhealthy, you know, extremism on either side. I've,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've seen it all. And so I feel

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Speaker 2: like there is a balance and I hope that we

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Speaker 2: can help kids find it.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Thank you for saying that. I think

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. My oldest who's, who's struggled, she sees

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Speaker 1: some of the people that she grew up with who

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Speaker 1: are in the faith kind of using some of the

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Speaker 1: truths of scripture bludgeoning people with it. I'm like, that's

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Speaker 1: not the intention. We need to help. And this is

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Speaker 1: what I love about your programming is that we need

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Speaker 1: to help our kids to taste and see that the

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Speaker 1: Lord is good. That's right.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Taste and see that the Lord is good. He loves us.

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Speaker 1: And the standard is there to protect us so that

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Speaker 1: we don't hurt ourselves because he loves us. You know what? I,

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask this. Maybe this should have been my

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Speaker 1: first question. But like Minnow, for anyone in our audience

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Speaker 1: who might not know why you chose that name. Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Awesome name for it. Tell us why it's Minnow.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: This was our CEO's vision. Eric's vision was Minnow is

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Speaker 2: an Anglican spelling of the Greek word Minnow, M-E-N-O-W. which

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Speaker 2: means to abide. It's out of John 15. And so

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Speaker 2: our hope is for kids and families to abide with

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Speaker 2: Jesus every day. And that's why we're called Minnow. And

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Speaker 2: so that's the goal, and everything we do points to that.

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Speaker 1: I thought... Perhaps it was because it's a little fish, right?

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Speaker 1: A little minnow. And we're trying to grow up the

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Speaker 1: little fish to be big fish.

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Speaker 2: Big fish.

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Speaker 1: These are our little minnows. I mentioned that earlier.

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Speaker 2: Well, that works too. That works too.

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Speaker 1: It totally works because, of course, we all know that

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Speaker 1: the symbol they used back in the early church days

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Speaker 1: for being a believer was a fish.

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Speaker 2: Was the fish.

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Speaker 1: Right. Little fish are just little minnows that abide. Yes.

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Speaker 1: With the father. We can tie it all together. We

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Speaker 1: can use it all. That's right.

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Speaker 2: It all works together.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that too.

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Speaker 1: I love it too. Oh, that's awesome. So if parents

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Speaker 1: want to explore Minnow's streaming platform and discover all of

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Speaker 1: that amazing programming and the resources we talked about today,

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Speaker 1: where can they go to learn more?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they go to GoMinnow.com. So it's M-I-N-N-O, so no W.

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Speaker 2: It's G-O-M-I-N-N-O.com, GoMinnow.com. And you can find, you can do

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Speaker 2: a free trial there. We do a seven-day trial and

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Speaker 2: experience the videos. And then I don't think I said this,

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Speaker 2: but we also have audio. So we released audio and

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Speaker 2: that way parents have a screen-free option. And that's another

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Speaker 2: thing that's unique to Minnow. It works in CarPlay and

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Speaker 2: all that too. So you can listen to Bible stories

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Speaker 2: if you don't want to watch them and when you're

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Speaker 2: on the go. So you can try a free trial.

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Speaker 2: And then our subscriptions are $ 10. 99 a month or $ 69. 99

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Speaker 2: a year. So quite a big savings for a year,

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Speaker 2: which we try to make it really affordable for families.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That's really– that is affordable. And I was thinking

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Speaker 1: with Christmas right around the corner, this is.

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Speaker 2: A really good gift.

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Speaker 1: Because the grandparents are always asking, like, what do your

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Speaker 1: kids want? What do you want? And this would be

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Speaker 1: a great thing to gift from grandparents to kids or

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Speaker 1: parents to kids. But this has been so refreshing, so wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us today, Jess, to

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Speaker 1: talk about.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think this is just a wonderful opportunity for us

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Speaker 1: to engage with our kids with some valuable content. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I am going through that whole library of

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Speaker 1: the Torchlighters and Liberty Kids. I love it. This year

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Speaker 1: with my kids, and it's just going to be aiding

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Speaker 1: our homeschooling experience. But if your kids are in public school,

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Speaker 1: it's a great way to engage with them on biblical

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Speaker 1: worldview and biblical stories. once they get home from school

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Speaker 1: and send them in front of this. And I did

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Speaker 1: not know. Okay. So all the audio content, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: we do need to give our kids the visual break.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: That is very unique about yours. So thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's so fun.

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Speaker 1: Yes. We're practically neighbors, aren't we? Yeah, we are. Yes.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to meet for coffee. We will.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to get together for coffee because I moved

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Speaker 1: to your neck of the woods.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: God bless.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Bye-bye. Moms and dads, what I love about this conversation is,

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Speaker 1: is the reminder that even little choices we make every

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Speaker 1: day can make a big difference in our kids' lives.

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Speaker 1: The shows they watch can be more than just a

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Speaker 1: way to pass the time. They can actually spark great conversations.

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Speaker 1: They can plant seeds of truth, and they can help

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Speaker 1: our kids see God in new ways. And isn't that

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Speaker 1: what we want? To find those everyday opportunities to point

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Speaker 1: our kids toward the one who loves them the most?

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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 1: I know that's what I want. And as always, remember,

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Speaker 1: God gave you your kids, your specific kids, for a reason.

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Speaker 1: That's because you hold the key to unlocking who God

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Speaker 1: created them to be. We'll see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Christian Parent Crazy World is a production of Life Audio

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Speaker 2: and Salem Media. For more faith-filled, inspirational podcasts, visit us

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