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Speaker 4: All right, welcome everybody. It's the Charlie Kirk Show. It's

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Speaker 4: a field day yesterday talking about the Smithsonian in white

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Speaker 4: supremacy and all kinds of fun things. Congressman, welcome back

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Speaker 4: to the show. It's great to have you as always.

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Speaker 4: Can you just tell our audience what this was even about.

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Speaker 5: First of all, yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 6: And this is this was about the Smithsonian as an

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Speaker 6: They've infused their entire their entire museum really with a

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Speaker 6: see that practically and exhibits that they put up where

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Speaker 6: showing off all kinds of sexual fetishes, where they will promote,

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Speaker 6: you know, that the transgender Guatemalan activist, illegal alien who's

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is the kind of stuff that has

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Speaker 4: Okay, So that's a great premise and a great setup,

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Speaker 4: and I completely agree with your starting point that this

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Speaker 4: to it, they act like President Trump and the Trump administration,

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Speaker 4: and you guys in Congress are a bunch of fascists

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Speaker 4: for trying to actually present something that isn't you know,

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Speaker 4: completely demoralized about the history of America. And that was

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Speaker 4: The team is telling me that, like all over social media, Facebook, Instagram,

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Speaker 6: It's not too Would you say that the goal of

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Speaker 9: I'm not normally a big fan of congressional hearings, but

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Speaker 5: Is this stuff's just still embedded?

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes it is. And that's the problem. It's that

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Speaker 6: The original white supremacy document that the Smithsonian Institution had,

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Speaker 4: When the Front you called them on it, You said,

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Speaker 4: The list is obscene, and I remember covering this and

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Speaker 10: Is this the usual?

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Speaker 9: Is this another case where technically the Smithsonian is independent

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Smithsonian, it's it's governed by what is supposed

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Speaker 6: But this does show that, you know, we like to

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Speaker 9: That's so important, Congressman, that it's just dormant. And it's

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Speaker 4: Of course, and people need to understand the Smithsonian is

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Speaker 3: It's so obscene.

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Speaker 6: According to the Smithsonian Institution, one of your exhibits referenced

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Speaker 8: Would you describe that as racist?

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Speaker 7: No, the historical trajectory of the origins of Mickey Mouse

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Speaker 7: Racist, and it's certain on obvious racial overtones that have

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Speaker 6: I think that that's problematic that Mickey Mouse also has

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Speaker 7: It's not for me to determine what's problematic. It's determined

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Speaker 3: Me to say he's race. He's just racist.

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Speaker 4: And you you pressed her each time she tried to

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Speaker 6: But I think that their legislative solutions that we can

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Speaker 4: So if any of you caught our election stream net

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Speaker 4: This is the clean sweep graphic that we have. I

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the right one.

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Speaker 10: So this is this is our federal races last night.

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Speaker 10: But we had a.

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Speaker 12: Clean sweep of all Turning Point endorsed candidates statewide last

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Speaker 12: Andy Biggs had historic night last night, really showcasing how

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Speaker 12: It's a heap he he Heap is up eleven thousand

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Speaker 10: Obviously there's still more votes account.

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Speaker 12: second winner, two winners too, and so he's he's on

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Speaker 12: his way, which means that all of our state wide

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Speaker 12: candidates had a clean sweep. Warren Peterson running for AG

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Speaker 12: running it's uh, the incredibly politicized, terrible Chris Mays who

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Speaker 12: has done nothing but go after Trump.

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Speaker 4: Obviously gone after you, after the audience that maybe isn't

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Speaker 4: aware she you know, came after Tyler and the alternate

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Speaker 4: election schemes that stretch multiple states. Right, you go back

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Speaker 4: to twenty twenty, there was a legal question of what

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Speaker 4: was going to happen with the lawsuits, you know, and

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Speaker 4: we didn't know so they had to do alternate electors

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Speaker 4: in case the lawsuits proved to be Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Again the successful, the quick you know recap of that

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty. You know, they had screwed with elections so

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Speaker 12: much nobody had any kind of faith following that. If

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Speaker 12: you remember, there was about five or six states that

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Speaker 12: again at three am, serious clip from Trump to others,

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Speaker 12: all within thousands of votes.

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Speaker 10: So thousands of votes gave us Joe up to Joe Biden.

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Speaker 12: And you know, Adrian Fontes, who is the Secretary of

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Speaker 12: State that alex College is running against here, was at

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Speaker 12: the tip of the spear of that because he was

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Speaker 12: trying to send force send everybody a mail in ballot

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Speaker 12: during COVID, which is illegal, and the court shut him down.

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Speaker 10: So you have.

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Speaker 12: Three highly you know, verging on criminalistic, you know type

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Speaker 12: Democrats started running in Arizona of Katie Hobbs, who's under

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Speaker 12: investigation for corruption today for pay.

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Speaker 10: To play schemes. So she's used her office to profit.

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Speaker 12: Her friends friends number one and she's under investigation by

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Speaker 12: Chris Mays, who's the age who's attacking political opponents, including

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Speaker 12: us for obvious reason. She would love for us, She

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Speaker 12: would love for me to be in jail right now

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Speaker 12: so that we couldn't run election against.

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Speaker 10: Her, you know what I'm saying that is. And then third,

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Speaker 10: you have Adrian Fontes, who's literally one of the most.

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Speaker 12: Progressive voices for a Secretary of State in America, trying

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Speaker 12: to hijack Maricopa County. He was the Meericopa County Recorder

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Speaker 12: got booted out of office by voters after one election

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Speaker 12: because he did so many things to screw with the

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Speaker 12: elections in Arizona that people naturally organically removed him from office.

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Speaker 12: They put in Stephen Richard. He was not very much better.

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Speaker 12: Now we have Justin Heap. So within four election cycles,

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Speaker 12: we four different recorders of America County. But Adrian Fontez is

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Speaker 12: that third. So Arizona now has locked in three conservative

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Speaker 12: warriors to take out those three ultra progressives. Huge and

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Speaker 12: this matters for the rest of America because the way

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Speaker 12: the Arizona goes this election is the way that America

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Speaker 12: likely goes in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And the big I think reveal last night with all

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Speaker 4: of this is that there was an ongoing question. We've

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Speaker 4: played these clips last night from Charlie talking about you know,

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Speaker 4: Andy Biggs is a non conservative, right and the prevailing

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Speaker 4: wisdom in the state of Arizona is that you needed

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Speaker 4: to run a moderate in order to coalesce all the

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Speaker 4: different you know, wings of the Republican Party in this state. Well,

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Speaker 4: guess what, Andy Biggs just had a historic, unifying primary

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Speaker 4: victory exactly, And that tells you everything to know about

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Speaker 4: where we've come.

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Speaker 9: And I think that it's worth emphasizing that because we've

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Speaker 9: seen candidates who get the base very excited, but they

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Speaker 9: can have an edge to that that'll make other people

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Speaker 9: mad and you get a very disputed primary. Whereas Bigs,

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Speaker 9: he gets the base excited, end they were excited, and

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Speaker 9: he's sweets the history by sixty points.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's upset because he's a gentleman, he's a stand up guy.

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Speaker 4: He's been in this state for decades. He's proven to

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Speaker 4: I guess, all different factions of the party that he

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Speaker 4: is a man of integrity, that he is a conservative,

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Speaker 4: that he means what he says, and he's not braggadocious,

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Speaker 4: he's not brazen, he's not like you.

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Speaker 3: Said that edge like.

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Speaker 4: He's just a good strong man that and people believe

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Speaker 4: him when he says what he's gonna do. So this

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Speaker 4: is a huge turning point, pun intended for the state

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Speaker 4: of Arizona, because we've never seen the Republican Party this

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Speaker 4: united around any single candidate. And I think that is

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Speaker 4: a testament to Andy Biggs's campaign, That's a testament to

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Speaker 4: Charlie and a testament turning point actions work in this day.

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Speaker 12: And really that's not just here in Arizona. I mean

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Speaker 12: that is true in Arizona, like within the last forty years.

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Speaker 12: Andy Biggs did something historic yesterday, But this is true

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Speaker 12: across the country. There is not a gubernatorial candidate that

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Speaker 12: had more broad based support. I would argue this election

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Speaker 12: cycle that had a competitive primary against that person in

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Speaker 12: any state, Like you look at deep red states with

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Speaker 12: people incumbent governors. I mean you have incumbent governors that

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Speaker 12: had real strong primary challenges. We just saw this in

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Speaker 12: South Dakota then comment governor what basically had a one

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Speaker 12: of the toughest challenges and act wasn't even the top

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Speaker 12: vote getter in the primary election. You have numerous examples

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Speaker 12: of this. Andy Biggs is unifying and he's bringing everyone

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Speaker 12: together and we're going to work and March towards November together.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 4: the house. That is what the midterms is really all

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Speaker 4: about on some level. I mean, I like our chances

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Speaker 4: in the Senate a little bit better, we can focus

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Speaker 4: on that too, But the House is the real question,

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Speaker 4: and with less swing districts kind of narrows the focus

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Speaker 4: of where we need to be be looking at. So

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Speaker 4: where are you looking at right now? We start in Arizona.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so there's critical states. And Blake's pointed this out

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Speaker 12: numerous times because the left started this entire war on redistricting,

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Speaker 12: which started with Gavin Newsom, which is probably going to

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Speaker 12: sink his political career because if the Democrats lose the

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Speaker 12: House this year, I think everyone's going to blame Gavin

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Speaker 12: Newsome permanently, probably forever.

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Speaker 10: I'll go in the history books that Gavin.

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Speaker 12: Newsome became kind of the the patsy for them on this.

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Speaker 12: But once California started redistricting, all these other states are redistricting,

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Speaker 12: so basically eliminated swing districts and every other random state the.

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Speaker 9: Only swing districts in any state that is not currently

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Speaker 9: itself a hotly like a divided swing states, which Arizona is.

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Speaker 12: And the reason for that is because it's the only

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Speaker 12: thing that the only states are left that has swing

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Speaker 12: districts are swing states themselves because the voter rolls are

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Speaker 12: so close that there's there's no way for the right

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Speaker 12: or the left, yeah, to manipulate their way out of it.

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Speaker 12: So that's left Arizona with two swing districts, which we

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Speaker 12: have an independent redistricting commission. We didn't redistrict, nothing changed,

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Speaker 12: but we've had those two districts that are on the verge,

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Speaker 12: which was CD one.

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Speaker 10: J Feely won last night. We like Jay's awesome.

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Speaker 12: He'll be on the show probably this week to talk

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Speaker 12: about his race. He's well positioned, he had a really

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Speaker 12: strong night. Everyone kind of agrees that he's a great candidate.

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Speaker 12: And then you have Juan Siscamani in CD six, who's

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Speaker 12: also a great man, great dad, Hispanic heritage, great on

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Speaker 12: the Mexico US border, great Republican defending the board. He's

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Speaker 12: one of the only Republicans that is a huge race

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Speaker 12: a border.

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Speaker 4: Literally this race. I've just had this feeling that the

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Speaker 4: House is going to come down to this race. I

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Speaker 4: don't know why I feel that way, but it really

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Speaker 4: really could.

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Speaker 12: And that's kind of how things trended out for twenty

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Speaker 12: twenty four too.

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Speaker 10: If you remember people are really watching these races.

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Speaker 12: Then you have Iowa, you have Zach Nunn, and you

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Speaker 12: have Maryonnette Miller Meeks who are in their district their

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Speaker 12: respective districts.

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Speaker 4: And then do you remember Mary and Aette Mary Miller

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Speaker 4: Meeks barely eking out that what was it twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: It was like ten votes.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we we actually went out.

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Speaker 12: We were one of the only organizations that did a

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Speaker 12: Superchase event, did a Super Saturday style event.

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Speaker 10: For Maryonette Miller Meeks.

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Speaker 12: She ended up winning by just a handful of votes,

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Speaker 12: and so the everything matters in those races. You then

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Speaker 12: have h Derek Van Orden in western Wisconsin, who the

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Speaker 12: left is running a DSA style candidate that's trying to

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Speaker 12: be masked as this cutesy little you know young woman.

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Speaker 3: Derek was Wisconsin three.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Wisconsin. Uh, that is the race to watch.

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Speaker 12: That is probably, in my opinion, going to be the determiner.

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Speaker 12: I think that's actually a Bellweather race to watch. If

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Speaker 12: we win that, I think we win Congress. If we

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Speaker 12: lose that, I think we lose Congress.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 12: You then have other races and other swing states. So

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Speaker 12: Michigan you have there the son of the sheriff Bouchard,

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Speaker 12: who's running, uh to replace John James who's reigned for governor.

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Speaker 12: And then you have a race that was watched very

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Speaker 12: closely that we actually participated in the last time in

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Speaker 12: CD seven with Tom Barrett.

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Speaker 3: Tom Barrett who replaced.

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Speaker 12: Slotkin, who ended up winning. So this was how crazy

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Speaker 12: last election was. Trump wins Michigan, Slotkin wins Senate, and

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Speaker 12: Slotkin Slockin's.

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Speaker 10: Uh. The person that follows Slockin, what do you call it?

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Speaker 5: A successor successor?

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Speaker 12: Yes, successor loses and the Republican wins in CD seven.

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Speaker 4: So Michigan is Michigan's all over the place, but.

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Speaker 12: Michigan has It's very interesting because right now if they

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Speaker 12: if the Democrats nominate DSA supported social supported l said, uh,

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Speaker 12: you have a real opportunity to say that, I mean,

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Speaker 12: this will be the heart and soul of Michigan this time,

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Speaker 12: which is do you do you elect a normy Republican,

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Speaker 12: which Michigan was kind of known for for for many decades,

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Speaker 12: or do you nominate a socialist a socialist back candidate,

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Speaker 12: And and that is on its way Wisconsin. We mentioned

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Speaker 12: Derek van Orden, but you also have a really important

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Speaker 12: governor's race there right now, and the DSA is supporting

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Speaker 12: a candidate named Hong. She's like this little girl totally

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Speaker 12: DEAs I mean this is she is full throated out

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Speaker 12: in public, not even trying to hide it.

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Speaker 10: Socialist.

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Speaker 12: And Tom Tiffany again kind of normy guy, very similar

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Speaker 12: to Andy Biggs in races. So that both Freedom Caucus

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Speaker 12: guys both kind of normy, awesome guys, but they're they're

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Speaker 12: really from their state. They really represented another state.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 12: And then and then you have some other races obviously

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Speaker 12: that are across the country. We're focused on New Hampshire.

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Speaker 12: We think that New Hampshire is one of the most

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Speaker 12: underrated Senate races with so New New you have a

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Speaker 12: congressional district that's there, that was that's right on the

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Speaker 4: all over this, keeping me up to date as details emerge.

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Speaker 4: At first it seemed like it was a random murder.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I don't know.

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Speaker 9: If I ever thought it was a random murder, I

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Speaker 9: would agree with you tried to suggest it was a

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Speaker 9: random murder.

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Speaker 4: And as details unfolded, you were the one who kept

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Speaker 4: pointing out to me, Hey, Andrew, we need to pay

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Speaker 4: attention to the story. It bears striking resemblance, at least

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Speaker 4: in some ways to what happened to Charlie exactly, and

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Speaker 4: so here to help us break that down is as

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Speaker 4: a British guy that we love and we have on

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Speaker 4: the show because it is a UK story, Alan Bakari.

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Speaker 4: He's with the Foundation for Freedom Online. He's a great guy,

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Speaker 4: great expert at all things digital. So Alan, welcome back

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Speaker 4: to the Charlie kirkshow.

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Speaker 13: Hey, guys, good to be back on all.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us. Well, let's just dive right into this.

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Speaker 9: I don't think the story's gotten the attention in the

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Speaker 9: US that it ought to, and I think that's partly

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Speaker 9: because your own country's press is determined to not let

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Speaker 9: this get too large.

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Speaker 5: Tell us, tell our.

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Speaker 9: Viewers, who was Anne Whittacomb if I said that right?

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Speaker 9: And what happened to her? What have we learned over

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Speaker 13: So Ann Widdecombe has been a fixture or fuck conservative

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Speaker 13: politics in the UK for many decades, since the nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 13: In fact, she wasn't particularly a well known figure in

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Speaker 13: recent years. She wasn't like highly visible as she was

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Speaker 13: perhaps in like the two thousands and twenty tens, but

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Speaker 13: she was still regularly on British TV. She would advance

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Speaker 13: conservative positions. She was known for being a staunch, unwavering

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Speaker 13: social conservative. She opposed things like gay marriage and abortion,

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Speaker 13: and because of this she was often a popular hate

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Speaker 13: figure amongst you liberal UK talking heads. Our version of

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Speaker 13: late night comedy shows that sort of thing. She's not

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Speaker 13: someone you'd be and as we've what happened in this

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Speaker 13: story is she was now she's been murdered. She was

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Speaker 13: murdered by what appears to be a radical communist. We're

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Speaker 13: just now getting more details about this. The suspect, the

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Speaker 13: person who's been charged in his political viewpoints. He attacked

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Speaker 13: her at her home. She was alone in her home

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Speaker 13: in the English countryside. And it's interesting has as you

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Speaker 13: guys were talking about how the police initially responded to it.

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Speaker 13: They didn't initially suggest it was politically motivated. They suggested

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Speaker 13: it might have been a robbery gone wrong. And the

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Speaker 13: other thing they didn't do, which is very important, is

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Speaker 13: they did not release the name of the suspect, who

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Speaker 13: has now been charged for many many days, and now

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Speaker 13: it appears like all of his social media has if

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Speaker 13: he had social media, it's gone like this, it's been

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Speaker 13: scrubbed from the internet. So it's making it very difficult

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Speaker 13: to find out, you know, for the public to find

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Speaker 13: out information about this individual.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so what we now have learned and correct me

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Speaker 4: if I'm wrong, but this individual obviously went out of

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Speaker 4: his way, traveled some distance to commit this murder. The

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Speaker 4: weird part about it for me is that this first

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Speaker 4: point you made that she was sort of known, is

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Speaker 4: this staunch social conservative, against gay marriage, against probably all

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Speaker 4: the trans insanity. Do we have any indication yet that

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Speaker 4: this is what animated her alleged killer here, Well, we.

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Speaker 13: Suddenly know a little bit about him. We know he

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Speaker 13: had strong left wing sympathies. There was a video circulating

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Speaker 13: on social media earlier today him speaking at a communist

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Speaker 13: meet up some years ago. And you know, various far

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Speaker 13: left literatures discovered at his house.

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Speaker 9: Not even I'm looking at this is the Sun, so

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Speaker 9: I know it's a tabloid. Maybe they get ahead of themselves,

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Speaker 9: but it says allegedly they had newspaper clippings of Nigel

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Speaker 9: Farage and Reform like pinned to his wall, like you're

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Speaker 9: thinking of like the meme from what is the officer

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Speaker 9: always said it sound like, Yeah, it sounds like a

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Speaker 9: lunatic basically, like pinning newspaper clippings to the wall of

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Speaker 9: the guy's list. Yeah, that's that's terrifying actually because Nigel,

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Speaker 9: as we know, as the leader of which is the

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Speaker 9: guy is almost fantasizing about his hit list, is what

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Speaker 9: it would seem.

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Speaker 13: It does seem that way, And this goes to like

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Speaker 13: Another point that Nigel Parrage has made is that he's

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Speaker 13: had to pay for private security, and I believe the

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Speaker 13: the UK Home Office only recently offered to give to

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Speaker 13: up his security level because partly because of this murder.

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Speaker 13: This murder of Anne Whittacombe, who was also, by the way,

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Speaker 13: a Reform spokeswoman, so she was part of Nigel Farage's party.

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Speaker 13: There's been some speculation that Nigel Pharah that this person

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Speaker 13: would have preferred to target Nigel Faranje but his security

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Speaker 13: Ann whittickm was sort of an easier target. And also

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Speaker 13: Ann Willkim is the sort of person you'd only really

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Speaker 13: know about if you're like very plugged into politics, which

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Speaker 13: this person certainly was.

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Speaker 9: I'm just looking at the details in this case, like

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Speaker 9: in addition to it being to pray, drove a very

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Speaker 9: long distance, clearly was fixated on this person. The murder

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Speaker 9: itself is horrifying. It's not coming out bludgeoned her to

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Speaker 9: death twenty one times in the head with a hammer.

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Speaker 9: This is a almost eighty year old woman. She was

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Speaker 9: out of politics, out of well, she was on TV,

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Speaker 9: but yeah, she was not a member of Parliament for

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Speaker 9: the last fifteen years. It just I'm thinking of like

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Speaker 9: the equivalent. It would be the equivalent of someone in

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Speaker 9: America Phillis Schlafley. She died a while ago, but you know,

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Speaker 9: when she was in her old age, if someone had

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Speaker 9: driven across the country to break into her home and murder.

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Speaker 4: It reminds me of the White House Correspondents Dinner, where

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Speaker 4: this guy was in California and he would he take

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Speaker 4: a train and all this other stuff, like goes all

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Speaker 4: the way across country to go and try and shoot

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Speaker 4: up where the president is at in the White House

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Speaker 4: Correspondens Dinner. I mean, when you see that type of

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Speaker 4: distance traveled, you know that there is a fixation on

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Speaker 4: a particular target. You have to be motivated uniquely for

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Speaker 4: this person.

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Speaker 13: I think that's right, and I think you know, Anne

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Speaker 13: whittikm was some of was one of these people that

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Speaker 13: if you were like a far left, you know, a

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Speaker 13: far left lunatic, she would be one of the people

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Speaker 13: that you'd think of you who would come to mind

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Speaker 13: as like a one of the most one of the

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Speaker 13: most right wing people in the country. Perhaps, you know,

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Speaker 13: Nigel Farish might be more prominent. But if you're like

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Speaker 13: a true political obsessive, you know she's someone you might

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Speaker 13: have known about.

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Speaker 2: And as you said, the.

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Speaker 13: Distance he traveled clearly points to this being a targeted killing.

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Speaker 13: And what he also said goes to the wider point, right,

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Speaker 13: this is now a transatlantic international trend of political assassinations.

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Speaker 13: Three assassinations, attempts on the president, including during the campaign,

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Speaker 13: the assassination of Charlie of course, and there so many

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Speaker 13: other incidents of violence that we've been seeing in the

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Speaker 13: United States, you know, attacks on ice facilities as well

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Speaker 13: on government buildings, and now it's crossed over to the

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Speaker 13: UK as well, it seems.

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Speaker 9: And on top of that, what stands out to me,

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Speaker 9: she's most known as a social conservative. Now correct me

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Speaker 9: if I'm wrong, but social conservatism isn't that strong in

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Speaker 9: the UK. She opposed abortion, but you guys have liberal

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Speaker 9: abortion laws that are not likely to change even if

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Speaker 9: reform were to win. You guys are not going to

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Speaker 9: repeal gay marriage like at least in the US, social

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Speaker 9: conservatives have won elections recently. But she was an outlier.

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Speaker 9: This guy fixated on and just murdered her. I just

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Speaker 9: can't get over how horrible this is, and then the

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Speaker 9: police dragging their food.

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Speaker 4: The lack of outrage, and I mean candidly when we

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Speaker 4: talk about these connections to Charlie's case. You had Tyler

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Speaker 4: Robinson go from southern Utah drive all the way up

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Speaker 4: to Orum, so this is a.

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Speaker 5: Most the exact same distance.

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Speaker 3: I think. Yeah, it's like both these cases over three hours.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, which is just very weird. Actually in

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Speaker 4: the UK, it's not like a road trip culture in

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Speaker 4: the UK, you end up taking the train. It just

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff here in The real offensive

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Speaker 4: part is just the media blackout, the silence. You have

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Speaker 4: to go to social media to see anybody reacting to

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Speaker 4: this in any sort of like with you know, enough

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Speaker 4: outrage that it deserves.

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Speaker 9: We just got a great video of Anne Whitttercomb, the

873
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 9: woman who was Handsley murdered. We're getting it loaded acep oh.

874
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Speaker 9: I think it's ready to go. It's her talking fittingly

875
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 9: enough about the importance of freedom of speech and not

876
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 9: getting triggered.

877
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: Or upset by it.

878
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 3: Clip twelve.

879
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 14: Now, only two sorts of people are pose free speech,

880
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 14: and they are at opposite ends at the scale snowflakes

881
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 14: and totalitarians. Nobody has the right to live their lives

882
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 14: being protected from a fence or from insult or from

883
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 14: hurt feelings. It is an occupational hazard of living in

884
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 14: society and if you really can't take it, become a.

885
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 9: I think that's I think that was that literally in

886
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 9: the Oxford Union there, the same place Charlie would have

887
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 9: been speaking. There's a dark irony to that there, of course,

888
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 9: because she says occupational hazard as you might hear things.

889
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 9: But now in Britain, the occupational hazard is she spoke

890
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 9: bravely for unpopular views that she believed in. And this

891
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 9: guy throw up that photo of him holding the candy again.

892
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 9: Jack would be having a field day with this. It's

893
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 9: he's got that smile. He's probably one of those guys

894
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 9: who would say kindness is everything.

895
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 5: Have you ever tried not being.

896
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: In this person? Love is love?

897
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 9: And it sounds like he went and committed a depraved

898
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 9: murder against freedom of speech.

899
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 5: I just can't get over that.

900
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 4: She by the way, I just love her. I have

901
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 4: to say, I just love her. She is every time

902
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: when I describe myself as an anglophile, actually, I mean

903
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: I can't stand England nowadays.

904
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: But but I love.

905
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: The British culture and I love the history of England

906
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 4: that's spread it all across the world.

907
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: Big fan of it.

908
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 4: They are the absolute best building blocks for a civilization.

909
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 4: Makes me so sad he is an inheritor of.

910
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 9: Britain had women like that, and you can see her

911
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 9: and she makes such a great argument. She can present

912
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 9: herself so well, and they chose something radically different. So

913
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 9: I want to take this zoom out alim. I feel

914
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 9: like this is just the latest horrific crime that has

915
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 9: a political valance to it in Britain.

916
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 5: We already had that murder of that young man.

917
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 9: Who was stabbed to death, Andy Novak and Henry Novac

918
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 9: and all of this. What's the overall situation? You guys

919
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 9: have a new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham.

920
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 10: Are we are?

921
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 5: We still?

922
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 7: Are?

923
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 9: We hopefully trending towards positive changes in Britain. My understanding,

924
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 9: you can correct me if I'm wrong, is that Burnham

925
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 9: is not going to correct the trajectory of cure Starmer's

926
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 9: fallen government.

927
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 13: No, I don't think he will, and he's already you

928
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 13: turned on some of his proposals. He wanted to raise

929
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 13: the tax free income cap and he backed down on that,

930
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 13: probably because of pressure from permanent bureaucrats at the Treasury.

931
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 13: And you know, he said he's going to scrap a

932
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 13: digital ID scheme, He's not really going to scrap it.

933
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 13: He's going to rename it. I don't I think it's

934
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 13: going to be very limited in what he can do.

935
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 13: I'll tell you what concerns me this, This murder happened

936
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 13: to a reform spokeswoman, a conservative before. You know, while

937
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 13: Reform is not even in government, there's no right wing

938
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 13: party in government right now. It's the left wing Labor Party.

939
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 13: I worry what might happen if reform actually does when

940
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 13: the next election, how violent the response will be. We

941
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 13: saw how the election of Donald Trump kicked off a

942
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 13: wave of violence in the US with the attacks on

943
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 13: on on ICE facilities, on Tesla's, on the fire bombings

944
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 13: of Tesla stores, all of these things. It's it's interesting

945
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 13: that we're already seeing violence again directed against Reform officials,

946
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 13: reformer spokespeople when they're not even in government. So that's

947
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 13: probably going to be at east two or three more

948
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 13: years off labor government in the UK. And I wonder

949
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 13: how this will escalate if reform maintains it leads in

950
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 13: the lead in the polls and and wins the next election.

951
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 9: And I know, you guys live tragically in a totalitarian nation,

952
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 9: the Brits. Is there any anything that these lawmakers or

953
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 9: these prospective reform in government people could appeal to to

954
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 9: defend themselves? Can you get a gun if there are

955
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 9: is a chance someone will break into your home and

956
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 9: try to kill you with a hammer.

957
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 4: Can they can they obscure their address or something? I mean,

958
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: it's obscene that this guy founder too, by the way, Yeah, it's.

959
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 13: It's pretty difficult to buy a gun even for self

960
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 13: defense in Britain. Pharaoh shubushing in security, but there are

961
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 13: so many other people in reform and on the right

962
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 13: to like lower down the ranks and won't have that

963
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 13: level of protection. Maybe they should now it might be,

964
00:50:54,840 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 13: it might be a good idea, but but there's the level.

965
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 13: The response to the killing as well is what's it's

966
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 13: what's what's disturbing. So many people were celebrating it on

967
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 13: social media. There was very a very muted response in

968
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 13: the press as well, partly because of that delay in

969
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 13: the police confirming whether or not who who the subject

970
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 13: was initially and what his potential political motivations might have been,

971
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 13: or not not confirming even initially that it was a

972
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 13: that it was a premeditated murder. And this this meant

973
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 13: that there was a series of days that went by

974
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 13: when you know, the picture wasn't exactly clear, and that

975
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 13: that sort of gave the media and gave left incommodated

976
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 13: this space to just ignore the story or just have

977
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 13: a muted response to it. And especially with the trend

978
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 13: of violent attacks continuing in the US. We saw that

979
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 13: ice that attack on the ice facility in New York

980
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 13: just a few days ago, you can see this trend continuing.

981
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 9: Unfortunately, I'm looking now, I just searched, I basically just

982
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 9: searched will to com on X and I'm finding there's

983
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 9: freaks on Blue Sky. Heather Herbert is going back to sleep.

984
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 9: I don't know if that's her name, but she says

985
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 9: it's a link to the murder, and she says some

986
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 9: good news for once. I hope it was an extremely

987
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 9: painful death. There is something wrong with the left. There's

988
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 9: something very wrong with the left in the UK. And

989
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 9: we're grateful you came on. So many Americans we care

990
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 9: about the fate of our mother country, the country that

991
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 9: birthed so many of the liberties we value in America.

992
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 9: But we can tell that the clock is ticking towards

993
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 9: midnight to save this country because there's a lot of

994
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 9: very bad people doing very bad things, and we don't

995
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 9: have that many people like Anne Whittacomb.

996
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alan, thanks for joining us.

997
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: We appreciate the insight here, and yeah, we pray for

998
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 4: safety of everybody in the UK and in the US

999
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 4: we have the same problem.

1000
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: Alan, talk to you soon.

1001
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 8: Thank guys.

1002
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1003
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1004
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1011
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Speaker 4: Go to Charlie for Hillsdale dot com. All right, without

1021
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Speaker 4: further ado, I want to bring in a guy I'm

1022
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 4: just getting to know and I'm really impressed by him.

1023
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 4: And he's a former Army Ranger sniper. He's an explosives expert.

1024
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 4: His name is Matt Tardio. He is also the host

1025
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 4: of Speak the Truth podcast, so he goes into a

1026
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 4: lot of the detail we're about to go into now

1027
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 4: on his show, so please check it out. Matt, Welcome

1028
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 4: to the show. It's great to have you.

1029
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, so.

1030
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 4: Just as a starting point here, and then we're gonna

1031
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 4: get into the meat of this. We're gonna be talking

1032
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 4: about some of this evidence, and we're gonna be talking

1033
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 4: about what robb O'Neil has said publicly. He is a

1034
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 4: Seal Team six that was involved in the shooting of

1035
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: Osama bin Lauden. So you know, we have a lot

1036
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 4: of respect for his service to our country. We're not

1037
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 4: attacking the but he's basically raising issues or questions he

1038
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 4: has about Charlie's assassination. As a starting point, establish your background,

1039
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 4: your CV, why should we listen to you as an

1040
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 4: expert on these things?

1041
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: So I did you know?

1042
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 11: I spent about sixteen years in the military before I

1043
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 11: was medically retired. Started off my career in the infantry,

1044
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 11: was ranger qualified, was a sniper section leader in the infantry,

1045
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 11: and then went to Special Forces selection and became the

1046
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 11: United States Army green Beret, got s F sniper qualified

1047
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 11: while I was there. Have roughly four years of combat

1048
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 11: in total underneath my belt. Missions against al Qaeda, isis,

1049
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 11: the Taliban, al Qaida in Iraq, you know, things like that.

1050
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 11: I'm seeing places like East Africa, Middle East, and Ukraine

1051
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 11: before people even knew where it existed.

1052
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 4: So you've got a pretty impressive resume there, and you

1053
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 4: understand ballistics, you understand explosives. So I'm going to play

1054
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 4: this clip. There's actually two clips because he's done it twice.

1055
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 4: It's gone on news Max and he said the following

1056
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 4: Sop fourteen.

1057
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 15: It's not like I'm out there saying big lie or

1058
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 15: a conspiracy or someone did it. I'm just saying this

1059
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 15: thing looked shady off the bat. I mean just I've

1060
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 15: killed people closer than I saw the camera, and I've

1061
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 15: never seen a shirt move like that. That looks like

1062
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 15: an explosion to me. I'm a COE Team six sniper.

1063
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 15: I'm asking a lot of questions.

1064
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 8: No one wants to answer him.

1065
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 4: Okay, so that was a couple months ago. The clip

1066
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 4: gets dredged up on social media as if it was

1067
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 4: breaking news, but it was actually a couple months old.

1068
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 4: So he got asked about it again on Newsmax. This

1069
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 4: was just yesterday, Sop fifteen.

1070
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 15: I don't think Charlie Kirk got shot the way they're saying.

1071
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,479
Speaker 15: That's all as a sniper with a bunch of kills

1072
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 15: up close and Jack having I don't do the research

1073
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 15: on this either, but Jack has zero.

1074
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 8: So let me be the man in the room for

1075
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 8: a second. It looked off. It looked off. It seems

1076
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 8: like a cover up.

1077
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 3: That's it.

1078
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 15: I'm not saying who did it. I don't mean if

1079
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 15: their guy did it as a sniper, someone with kills.

1080
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 15: I saw that happen. Wow, that looked off. I don't

1081
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 15: like rewatching it. I knew Charlie Kirk. This isn't fun

1082
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 15: for me. But I'm not going to just see something

1083
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 15: and have a bunch of people with no experience really

1084
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 15: killing people telling me that I'm wrong.

1085
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 3: I'm not wrong, Matt. Is he wrong?

1086
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: Yep, he's wrong. Yeah, And you know I understand where

1087
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 2: he's coming from.

1088
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 11: When I first saw it as well, I had originally

1089
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 11: thought the shot ended up coming from behind, and then

1090
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 11: I immediately ended up withdrawing my statement with a couple

1091
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 11: hours based on everything that's coming out.

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00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: I have any experience in shooting people that that. That's

1093
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 2: not an.

1094
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 11: Excuse for saying that I've I haven't seen anybody's shirt

1095
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 11: come up like that. Most of the time, that's not

1096
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 11: exactly what you're paying attention to when you're when you're

1097
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 11: in the middle of business.

1098
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: But yes he is.

1099
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 11: He is dead wrong and and all of those statements

1100
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,959
Speaker 11: that he's making minus that, you know, it looks off.

1101
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 11: But once you understand terminal ballistics, you start to understand

1102
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 11: what actually ended up happening after that.

1103
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: And you know, going.

1104
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 11: Through military snipe of courses, you you get a lot

1105
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 11: on internal and external ballistics. What what the projectile is

1106
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 11: doing inside of the rifle once it leaves leaves the

1107
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 11: rifle and it's flying through the air, but once it

1108
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 11: ends up going over an impact your intended target, that's

1109
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 11: where things start to get a little bit of wonky,

1110
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 11: and there is not a lot of information that's out

1111
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 11: there on it, But there is also a lot of

1112
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 11: information out there if you know where to look, specifically

1113
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 11: when it goes down to these types of rifle cartridges

1114
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 11: and what ended up happens when they impact flesh.

1115
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 9: So, Matt, let's dive into that because a lot of

1116
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 9: the weird theories they've kind of taken two. I'd say

1117
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 9: the core strands people essentially claiming the bullet the thirty

1118
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 9: odds six round would not be capable. It would have

1119
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 9: to leave an exit wound, and so therefore the wound

1120
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 9: that killed Charlie could not come from that. And then

1121
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 9: also people again they're fixating on T shirts and how

1122
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 9: it's floding to suggest, yeah, exploding microphones would do this.

1123
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 9: So I guess that's what your post on X that

1124
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 9: we saw dove into.

1125
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 5: Can you dissect some of the.

1126
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 9: Science, the unfortunate, grizzly science here of why we can

1127
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 9: enjoy confident that it was a bullet acting the way

1128
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 9: a bullet would that caused this all to happen.

1129
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, so we can go ahead and we can get

1130
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 11: rid of the exploding microphone theory rought off the bat

1131
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 11: that got revived by man goes by the name of

1132
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 11: John Bray thoroughly debunked him. People are welcome to go

1133
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 11: over to my ex profile and ticket at the work

1134
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 11: at the end of the day, even half a gram

1135
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 11: of pettin at the amount of petent that's in there

1136
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 11: in a shaped charge explosive is work equally right. They're

1137
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 11: basically omnidirectional when they end up going off, and that

1138
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 11: little half gram of pettin ends up exploding into a

1139
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 11: gas to space of about four hundred cubic inches instantaneously

1140
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 11: at over eight thousand meters a second. That means that

1141
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 11: little plastic microphone underneath the shirt would have instantly been

1142
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 11: gone long before anything ended up reaching his neck. It

1143
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 11: had blown a hole in his shirt easily the size

1144
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 11: of that microphone, and there'd be clear signs, clear signs

1145
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 11: of some damage to his tissue. So that within itself

1146
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 11: didn't happen. All right, we can just start off there.

1147
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: A shape charge is not a magical charge.

1148
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 11: It's been around since the late eighteen hundred's, right, and

1149
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 11: it's been studied ever since. It's used in RPGs, it's

1150
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 11: used in lots of different things in the defense industry.

1151
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 11: If there was a way to focus all the explosive

1152
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 11: energy into a single you know, jet that doesn't have

1153
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 11: any sort of opposite and equal reaction, right Newton's laws

1154
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 11: of physics that we're talking about here, Please let me

1155
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 11: know and also allow the people in the fields of

1156
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 11: physics to know that as well, because you are introducing

1157
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 11: a fourth dimension. So yeah, and when we start talking

1158
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 11: about the actual projectile itself, Okay, the one that we

1159
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 11: believe he used, it hasn't came out wholly in the

1160
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 11: court of law yet, so this is speculation.

1161
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: But it's well based speculation.

1162
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 11: Based on the photographs that ended up getting shared in

1163
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 11: his pre trial, those most certainly appear to be Remington

1164
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 11: one hundred and fifty grand corelock ammunition. That particular projectile

1165
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 11: for the thirty on six has been around since the

1166
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 11: late nineteen thirties, all right.

1167
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: It doesn't use modern day bonding techniques.

1168
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 11: It's got a soft lead point and it's got a

1169
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 11: thin copper jacket that wraps around it. And the reason

1170
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 11: you have to have that thin copper jacket is because

1171
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 11: that lead would basically be disintegrated if you were just

1172
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 11: you know, shooting it out at the barrel at the

1173
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 11: velosses that we shoot these things at. That thin copper

1174
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 11: jacket also helps create seal and it's actually, you know,

1175
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 11: if you were to take that projectile and measure it,

1176
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 11: it's actually slightly larger than the bore of the barrel.

1177
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 11: So it gets squeezed down that barrel and it slightly

1178
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 11: deforms it. And as it's being squeezed on that barrel

1179
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 11: and it slightly deforms it, you know, you have an

1180
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 11: issue that goes into the actual overall balance of the

1181
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 11: projectile itself. These elongated projectiles are very front heavy as

1182
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 11: opposed to back heavy. And no matter how how much

1183
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 11: we'd like to, we can't perfectly balance these things out.

1184
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 11: So with the improper balance, along with it being squeezed

1185
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 11: out the barrel, you end up getting what's called yaw.

1186
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 11: That happens when this projectile is flying through the air.

1187
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 11: That yaw causes it not to spin in a tight

1188
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 11: spiral like a football, but kind of to slightly wobble it.

1189
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 11: That knows, and depending on where that wobbles at when

1190
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 11: it ends up impacting the target, that creates you know,

1191
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 11: different effects.

1192
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: And termina ballistics.

1193
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 11: Now, this projectile it self is designed to essentially mushroom

1194
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 11: out is the term people like to, you know, bring up.

1195
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: It's designed to mushroom out. It's soft point.

1196
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 11: And the reason they do that is so that they

1197
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 11: expand and it creates more drag.

1198
01:01:59,680 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 10: You know.

1199
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 11: Older's whine a lot about the five five six, the

1200
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 11: green tip that you know, armor penetrating rounds that we

1201
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 11: have that were standard for the military for a very

1202
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 11: long time, just as zippen right through guys. I've shot

1203
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 11: people with them and just washed them fall down and

1204
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 11: get right back up. The reason is because you're just

1205
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 11: punching holes in them a right, it's essentially taking an

1206
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 11: ice pick and going and there's no energy transfer. So

1207
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 11: the reason you have these is because that they create

1208
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 11: much more energy transfer by opening up and biting into

1209
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 11: more meat. That projectile itself that we just saw those

1210
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 11: pictures up that's up on the screen ends.

1211
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: Up opening up the moment it comes into content.

1212
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 11: Please, yeah, yeah, bring that up there we go, so

1213
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 11: here we can see that that copper jacket that has

1214
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 11: opened up. Now, with the study that was done back

1215
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 11: in the nineteen sixties of over five thousand casualties from

1216
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 11: World War two and from Korea, they ended up determining

1217
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 11: that y'all ends up being the most distinguishing factor in

1218
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 11: terminabilistics overall and within within just three inches, right, within

1219
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 11: just three inches of flesh. And this is using full

1220
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 11: metal jacket rounds, not ones that mushroom ount and create

1221
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 11: more drag. Within just three inches a flash, it can

1222
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 11: actually tumble up to ninety degrees. So you have that

1223
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 11: very thin copper jacket as it's mushrooming out and then

1224
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 11: it's just going to rip apart. And we're also talking

1225
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 11: about lead here. Lead is a very soft metal in general,

1226
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 11: when it's just room temperature, it's soft. You can pick

1227
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 11: away at it with your thumbnail. When you shoot that

1228
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 11: thing down a barrel, it starts superheating it from the

1229
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 11: friction of the barrel, and as it's flying through the air,

1230
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 11: all the friction from the air also gets that round

1231
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 11: really nice and warm.

1232
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: It gets really hot.

1233
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 11: Once things start to heat up, they start to become

1234
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 11: a little bit more malleable, particularly.

1235
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 2: Lead and brass and copper.

1236
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 11: So when that stuff ends up hitting, all right, it's

1237
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 11: not hitting with the full strength as it would if

1238
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 11: you were just sitting there tapping in a room temperature.

1239
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: It's actually a little bit more malleable.

1240
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 11: All of that ends up creating that jacketed yaw that

1241
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 11: goes that that energy dissipation that ended up taking place

1242
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 11: that full stop within the neck one hundred percent is

1243
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 11: proven within this one photograph right here of how that

1244
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 11: went down.

1245
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 4: I just want to say to the audience, I'm sorry

1246
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 4: that we're talking about this candidly. We talk about it

1247
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 4: a lot during the preliminary hearing. It's an unfortunate thing

1248
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 4: that we have to do because there are and again

1249
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to disrespect Rob O'Neil's service. I have

1250
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 4: a great respect for his service to the country. But

1251
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 4: this becomes fuel that is then taken and they run

1252
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 4: with it, and next thing you know, Erica Kirk's being

1253
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 4: accused of something heinous. Okay, So we have to deal

1254
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 4: with the actual science and the facts, and we have

1255
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 4: to have responsible people like Matt who know this inside

1256
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 4: and out and are experts on this topic shed light

1257
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 4: on it and debunk this stuff as it comes up.

1258
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: It's like whack them all.

1259
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 5: We have to emphasize this.

1260
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 9: The goal of a lot of people pushing this is

1261
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 9: they want Tyler Robinson to get off free because they

1262
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 9: have all of this out there in the miasma, and

1263
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 9: someone will get on the jury and be unconvincible.

1264
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,840
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1265
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1266
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1282
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Speaker 4: Andrews sent you. Okay, so we have this clip here.

1283
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 4: Matt Tardio, former Army Ranger sniper four years of combat

1284
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 4: experience and explosives expert who has I'm so grateful to

1285
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 4: voices like yours, Matt, because you have stepped into the

1286
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 4: breach when you didn't have to.

1287
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 3: Nobody made you do this. I didn't even know you

1288
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 3: at all.

1289
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 4: I reached out when I saw your analysis on bullet

1290
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 4: yaw and things like this, explaining the ballistics behind this

1291
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 4: and the signs behind it.

1292
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: But you have done.

1293
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 4: You have done a brave thing, and I just want

1294
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 4: to thank you for that genuinely, and I think it's

1295
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 4: so critically important. We've got this b roll from a

1296
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 4: guy named Valhalla. I guess who's a you're aware of

1297
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 4: who this person is.

1298
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1299
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 4: He's trying to emulate. I guess the angle, the trajectory,

1300
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 4: the caliber round with a pig. Why don't you explain

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Speaker 4: what we're about to see and what you actually think

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Speaker 4: the takeaways are from this?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So I actually had a phone call with his

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Speaker 11: name's Nate. So I actually had a phone call with

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Speaker 11: Nate the other day and talked to him specifically about this.

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Speaker 11: Nate's stance on this, contrary to how everybody likes to

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Speaker 11: spin it is, he actually does think that there is

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Speaker 11: a chance that it could have stopped in the neck,

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Speaker 11: particularly after doing this. Now, this animal itself has been gutted,

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Speaker 11: all right, It has been gutted prior to it it

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Speaker 11: was freshly killed, but it has been gutted within the neck.

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Speaker 11: It's missing a lot of fluids okay that ended up

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Speaker 11: going in there, and it's also missing a lot of

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Speaker 11: how do you want to say, internal parts that would

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Speaker 11: have normally been in there when he ended up shooting it.

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Speaker 11: The one big takeaway that he ended up saying, actually,

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Speaker 11: in my opinion, goes to validate the paperwork that I

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Speaker 11: actually ended up publishing, which shows within the first four inches,

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Speaker 11: and you're going to hear this out of Nate's mouth,

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Speaker 11: you know at some point this video, guys will watch it.

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Speaker 2: Within those first four inches, it.

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Speaker 11: Actually ends up dissipating most of the energy within it.

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Speaker 11: Now that's without the fluid and fluid dynamics is actually

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Speaker 11: one of the most important things that goes into internal

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Speaker 11: ballistics or excuse me, terminal ballistics when it ends up

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Speaker 11: striking the target. Now, the one thing that Rob O'Neil

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Speaker 11: had stated was he didn't understand how Charlie shirt could

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Speaker 11: have puffed up like that, And I believe his exact

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Speaker 11: statement was the vapor trail could have possibly caused the

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Speaker 11: shirt to puff up. But the clip that I ended

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Speaker 11: up sending to you earlier with the timestamp does in

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Speaker 11: fact show the the air displacement from that projectile flying

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Speaker 11: through the air when it ends up striking that pig's neck.

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Speaker 11: You will see it puff all of the grass over

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Speaker 11: behind the pig.

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Speaker 4: All right, So I guess our team actually stripped out

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Speaker 4: some of the audio so we could react to it live.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if we can put this this up,

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Speaker 4: but it's the b roll here, and I think they

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Speaker 4: added a slow most. This is him up on a

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Speaker 4: on some sort of lift and he's shooting down with

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Speaker 4: the thirty odd six. I think he's trying to emulate

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Speaker 4: the angle that would have been, you know, at the

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Speaker 4: low C center down into the amphitheater and he's shooting

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Speaker 4: the pig. And so you're you're drawing our eye specifically

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Speaker 4: to the moving the rustling of the grass and what

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Speaker 4: you repeat again, what is your takeaway from that? As

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Speaker 4: a terminal ballistics expert.

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Speaker 11: So all right, so when you start talking about, you know,

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Speaker 11: sniping long grain shooters, they've all seen this phenomenon. And

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Speaker 11: for you guys that haven't seen this, it's something that's

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Speaker 11: called spotting trace. It's not a phenomenon. We know it's happened.

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Speaker 11: The bullet's cutting through the air right as displacing air

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Speaker 11: as it's flying through the air. As it's doing that,

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Speaker 11: it's pushing it out of the way.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

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Speaker 11: Air can actually compress, okay, and it can compress to

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Speaker 11: a point to where it actually can start fires, believe

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Speaker 11: it or not. And so as that bullet's cutting through

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Speaker 11: the air, that's what it's doing, and it's pushing and

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Speaker 11: it's moving it.

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Speaker 2: When you're getting shot at and.

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Speaker 11: Those bullets are flying pretty close to your body, you

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Speaker 11: can feel them going past you, the air being moved,

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Speaker 11: and so what you're witnessing is that projectile goes and

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Speaker 11: it impacts that neck. Is that air still moving, you know,

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Speaker 11: and being pushed by that projectile up until the point

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Speaker 11: of impact Once it does so, it's still in motion.

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Speaker 11: Right again, we're arguing with laws of physics or they are, Okay,

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Speaker 11: that projectile still in motion shows that air it just

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Speaker 11: doesn't magically stop when the projectile ends up impacting its

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Speaker 11: intended target. So that air then goes and it hits

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Speaker 11: and it flows almost like water around that neck. And

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Speaker 11: what ends up happening, believe it or not, that air

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Speaker 11: can actually compress as it's going around because it's hit

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Speaker 11: a certain object and it's allowing it to flow around,

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Speaker 11: and that air will actually continue to compress until it

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Speaker 11: comes out the other side when it dissipates. And that's

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Speaker 11: actually what happened with Charlie Kirkshirt.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, again, I hate even We're not going to

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Speaker 4: obviously show any of those images, but that seems to

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Speaker 4: be their central critique. So we know that air compresses.

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Speaker 4: By the way, anybody who's flown on an airplane knows

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Speaker 4: that as like an object's moving forward, it pushes the

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Speaker 4: air out. That's what creates the pressure underneath the wings

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Speaker 4: that gives a plane its lyft.

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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, so we know that air moves. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not this invisible thing. It actually has mass.

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Speaker 4: This I wanted to go back to this ride up,

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Speaker 4: and by the way, Matt did a phenomenal ride up.

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Speaker 4: I just want to give one small graphic warning. At

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Speaker 4: the end, you're proving it's a gunshot wound, and there

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Speaker 4: is a frame, and I just I want to say,

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Speaker 4: so if you look up this report, the science is

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Speaker 4: excellent and it is a refutation of a bunch of

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Speaker 4: this uh stuff that's floating around. I just want to

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Speaker 4: give if anybody looks that up, I just want to

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Speaker 4: fair warning. And I understand why you did it, Matt.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna say what it has an image of Charlie

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Speaker 5: being shot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but but just a still frame of it to

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Speaker 4: prove that. Visually it looks like exactly what you're describing here,

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Speaker 4: And I understand why you did it matter seven shock?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cybersetic shock, it's what it's what's

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Speaker 11: extrapolated and ballistics gel which people like to point to.

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Speaker 11: And I can tell you that ballistics jell is not

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Speaker 11: equal to human flesh. And I think that's the next

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Speaker 11: important thing that we've got to address.

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Speaker 2: Is it's just not equal. Okay, good there, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: fairenoughs why it's there? Yeah, blistics jell isn't equal. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 11: I mean we're a little short on time. It's going

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Speaker 11: to take a hot minute to be able to get

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Speaker 11: that out. But y I'll say this, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: No, you go go for it, Matt. The floor is yours.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 11: So one hundred and twenty four grain nine millimeters hydroshock

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Speaker 11: ammunition penetrates roughly twelve to fifteen inches of ballistics shell.

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Speaker 11: The thirty odd to six corlock ammunition goes through about

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Speaker 11: sixteen to seventeen inches of blistics. Yeall, one individual I

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Speaker 11: saw that got shot in the face with that nine

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Speaker 11: milimeters round, okay, And again it's twelve to fifteen inches

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Speaker 11: versus sixteen to seventeen inches. Okay, penetration of ballistics jeall

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Speaker 11: stopped within this guy's skull, all right. It didn't exit

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Speaker 11: his face, It went into his cheekbone, and then it

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Speaker 11: stopped within his head. And roughly estimating, you know, just

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Speaker 11: a couple of inches of worth of penetration out of that,

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Speaker 11: so twelve inches of blistics, yell, a couple inches of

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Speaker 11: human flesh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not the same. Matt Tardio, Please check out

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Speaker 4: his stuff. He's doing great work and he's a brave

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Speaker 4: fighter for truth speak. The truth is his show. Thank

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Speaker 4: you so much, Matt, and thank you to the audience

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Speaker 4: for bearing with us as we correct the record.

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Speaker 3: It's important.

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Speaker 6: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 6: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.