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Speaker 1: Okay, So you know my show is becoming a prager
Speaker 1: You fan show. So we have the pragger You guests
Speaker 1: all the time, and you inspire the best out of
Speaker 1: us at Breitbart. So congratulations on the success of the longevity.
Speaker 1: So the I Hate Prager You mockumentary with our friend
Speaker 1: Jeff I, who gave me an hour and a half.
Speaker 1: He's hilarious on the show recently. It's so good. But
Speaker 1: tell me about the story behind it. This is autobiography
Speaker 1: or biographical for you in a way. It's got to
Speaker 1: be about what it's like to run an organization that's
Speaker 1: so constantly demeaned and led about and tarnished and trashed
Speaker 1: and none of it's rooted in reality.
Speaker 3: Well, that's why I thought it would be funny to
Speaker 3: make a mockumentary out of the whole thing, because the
Speaker 3: story that Jeff Die played in is the story that
Speaker 3: has happened to me many, many times. So you'll have
Speaker 3: these alleged journalists. They'll come out here and they'll say, Oh,
Speaker 3: we want to get to know you better, we want
Speaker 3: to want to write by want to write about you.
Speaker 3: And so, whether it's Vanity Fair or any of you know,
Speaker 3: you know who, they'll come out and they come in
Speaker 3: truly with an agenda. They claim to be nice, they
Speaker 3: claim that they really want to get to know you,
Speaker 3: but they think that you are a monster because they
Speaker 3: read on some website like the SBOC that you're a monster, right,
Speaker 3: that we're a hate group, and they think that I'm
Speaker 3: some evil demon who is trying to destroy America. And honestly,
Speaker 3: many of them are very young, and they admittedly come
Speaker 3: with an agenda. And then sometimes they're actually willing to
Speaker 3: spend some time with us. So they'll come out, they'll
Speaker 3: fly out, they'll spend a few days. They'll interview me,
Speaker 3: they would interview Dennis Prager, they'll interview Xavier, and you
Speaker 3: see this look in their eyes. It's always the same look,
Speaker 3: it's almost like they turn white.
Speaker 1: And let's not forget that gang member alan.
Speaker 3: Estrin, the gang member out. Wait, they get to know
Speaker 3: alan Estrin, and it's like, what these people are not monsters? Right?
Speaker 3: It starts with that, and then slowly, slowly they crack.
Speaker 3: You see them crack right before your Eyes're like, wait
Speaker 3: a second, I actually think I agree with you more
Speaker 3: than I agree with with the paper that I am
Speaker 3: supposed to write to for, Because the paper I'm supposed
Speaker 3: to write for is telling me to come in with
Speaker 3: an agenda and to actually not even seek truth, but
Speaker 3: to actually seek the conclusion that I've been told that
Speaker 3: I need to conclude. And so those who are intellectually
Speaker 3: honest enough and are genuine, and especially some of these
Speaker 3: younger ones who for the first time in their life
Speaker 3: they get to sit with a Republican and realize that, actually,
Speaker 3: you know, we're really good people. It's it's eye opening.
Speaker 3: And some of them, many of them would call me
Speaker 3: months later asking to come work for us. They would
Speaker 3: ask for a job, and I thought, what a great
Speaker 3: way to explain what prigger you is through the eyes
Speaker 3: of the people who are really coming to attack us,
Speaker 3: Because they get it. They get it.
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Speaker 1: and you guys have heard me talk about it on
Speaker 1: the show in the audience, but I apprager you. Documentary
Speaker 1: mockumentary hilarious stars our friend Jeff Die and the premise
Speaker 1: is he's a journalist who going out to write hip
Speaker 1: pieces about you guys with a known agenda. It's obvious
Speaker 1: he's going to try to destroy you. And the more
Speaker 1: he digs into it, the more he's actually won over
Speaker 1: by not just your content, but by your people. And
Speaker 1: this was so I felt very seen when I saw
Speaker 1: this because this was my experience at bright Part. And
Speaker 1: there's a great call out to bright Part in the
Speaker 1: beginning where he's looking which right wing organization should I
Speaker 1: destroy and he considers Breitbart before he moves on to Praguer. You,
Speaker 1: but this really is what happens. And I've been there.
Speaker 1: I was there with Andrew when he was starting the company,
Speaker 1: and I've seen people fall around Bannon and fall around me,
Speaker 1: and they're always kind of shocked that were normal. And
Speaker 1: I'm sort of surprised by that because there's so many
Speaker 1: freaks in this country that get massive platforms, and then
Speaker 1: when all the productive people who are building things that
Speaker 1: last are normal and competent, then they're surprised. It's so bubbled.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think what this surprises them is that
Speaker 3: we're not just normal. We're good. We're all about goodness here.
Speaker 3: So if you spend a day at Prager, you you
Speaker 3: know that that's what our focus is. It just we
Speaker 3: want to enrich your life. We want you to live
Speaker 3: a better life. We want you to have better relationships
Speaker 3: with your family, your friends, your parents, with yourself, right.
Speaker 3: We want you to have resilience and self reliance and
Speaker 3: to actually live the American dream. We don't want you
Speaker 3: to think of yourself as a victim. We want you
Speaker 3: to live a good life. We want you to experience goodness.
Speaker 3: And so I say these things to the journalists that
Speaker 3: come here. I think I've never heard somebody who says
Speaker 3: these things to them genuinely the way we do. We
Speaker 3: are truly genuine about it, and I think that's really
Speaker 3: what changes their mind. It's not just that we're normal,
Speaker 3: or that we're friendly, or that we're nice to them,
Speaker 3: because they have plenty of friendly people in their lives,
Speaker 3: but to have an institution that is really founded and
Speaker 3: with the mission of goodness is shocking to them.
Speaker 1: What's also interesting to me is someone who is a
Speaker 1: Denis Prager super fan before Prager You, Now I'm a
Speaker 1: Praguer you super fan as well. But I've been listening
Speaker 1: to dentist NonStop on the radio. He's my favorite host
Speaker 1: on the radio with a lot of stiff competition. I
Speaker 1: was a huge talk radio junkie is. I feel like
Speaker 1: there were thousands, maybe tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of hours of Dennis producing content and he never
Speaker 1: said a hateful word the whole time, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's going to start a online video
Speaker 1: series for five minutes, educational for young people, and now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he was going to let his
Speaker 1: hate flag fly it was all so absurd to me
Speaker 1: from the start. But the people who have tried to
Speaker 1: cover you, so to speak, I have almost always been
Speaker 1: agenda driven, hate filled people trying to destroy you.
Speaker 3: Well, this is why they always fall into these silly
Speaker 3: traps where they would call Dennis Prager an anti Semite.
Speaker 3: Dennis Prager is a super Jew, right, he's probably one
Speaker 3: of the most famous Jews in America, but they would
Speaker 3: call him an anti Semite. They would call me a
Speaker 3: white Christian nationalist Barbie. In the documentary you saw that
Speaker 3: we covered one piece where in Louisiana they tried to
Speaker 3: pass a bill on the House floor to actually say
Speaker 3: that Prager you is anti se Semitic and discriminatory. Right,
Speaker 3: you're calling me an anti simmit I mean, we can
Speaker 3: have a Torah thon and we can see who's more
Speaker 3: Tora and more pro Jewish. But that's what they would do.
Speaker 3: They would log these insults at you, and they would
Speaker 3: have these organizations, these NGOs that would support this narrative
Speaker 3: like the SBOC, which is being obviously exposed right now,
Speaker 3: and sadly, young people would believe these things and in
Speaker 3: many cases, in the case of the journalists like the
Speaker 3: ones that we're talking about right now. Their career dependent
Speaker 3: on actually buying into that hate.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: There are so many people who work for left wing
Speaker 3: propaganda machines that their entire career is about taking bright
Speaker 3: Bart down. It's about taking Prager you down. That is
Speaker 3: their career, And so they're incentivized to actually propagate hate
Speaker 3: speech about us. That's the iron behind the whole thing
Speaker 3: claiming that we're about hate and hate speech. But they're
Speaker 3: the ones who built entire careers on making things up
Speaker 3: about Conservatives and Republicans. And they know, and these young
Speaker 3: people who work for them know that the moment they
Speaker 3: betray them. And I've heard this from the journalists who've
Speaker 3: interviewed me that if they betray the New York Times
Speaker 3: or Vanity Fair and actually say nice things about us,
Speaker 3: they will lose their jobs. Several members of that community
Speaker 3: have come to me and said, look, I got to
Speaker 3: know you, I spend time with you. I actually think
Speaker 3: you're a good person. I think Dennis Praguer is an
Speaker 3: amazing person. But I can't publish this article about Praguer
Speaker 3: you if I don't turn it into a hit piece.
Speaker 3: And so they would say to me Marissa can please
Speaker 3: let me know what you think I should do, because
Speaker 3: I know I took a lot of your time. Am
Speaker 3: I allowed to make some negative things or give me
Speaker 3: some negative things about you? So the article actually gets
Speaker 3: published about prager you, because if I don't say something
Speaker 3: negative about you, it's not going to get published in
Speaker 3: the New York Times. And so sometimes what they will
Speaker 3: do is they will actually change the title. The title
Speaker 3: will be extremely negative and then you read the article
Speaker 3: and you're like, wait a second, that is such a
Speaker 3: compliment you've written about me. I can't believe it. And
Speaker 3: they will say to me, you know what, I wasn't
Speaker 3: the one who titled the article, and so I let
Speaker 3: that go. But because I got to know you, I
Speaker 3: genuinely could not write negative things. I mean, there was
Speaker 3: an article in the New York Times many years ago
Speaker 3: where the author found one bad thing to say about Dennis,
Speaker 3: and that was that he was overweight. Okay, it's true. Okay,
Speaker 3: But I think the journalists are in a tough position
Speaker 3: because some of them are genuinely bad, and some of
Speaker 3: them want to do the right thing and they see
Speaker 3: what needs to be done, but they know they will
Speaker 3: lose their job. They will never be able to report
Speaker 3: on the left again if they write something nice about Breitbart,
Speaker 3: or if they not write something nice about Prayer.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is right, And I want to take the
Speaker 1: conversation here because one of the clever parts of the
Speaker 1: documentary is the decision to make the main character the
Speaker 1: left wing journalists, and not to make you the main character,
Speaker 1: Alan the main character, or some stand in or fact simile.
Speaker 1: And you know that this is a human being who
Speaker 1: writes these articles, and they're thinking about their career. They're
Speaker 1: thinking about making money, putting food on the table, maybe
Speaker 1: getting out of a rut that they're in in their life.
Speaker 1: And they're thinking, how do I get a story that
Speaker 1: gets published by a major outlet that's owned by some
Speaker 1: giant conglomerate with people with vested interests in a takedown
Speaker 1: of a conservative group, And so they have to pitch
Speaker 1: it all the way up the chain so they can't
Speaker 1: go and sit down with you and follow you around
Speaker 1: for a weekend. They like, Wow, she's kind of awesome.
Speaker 1: I'm really impressed. They could never write that because there's
Speaker 1: an editor, and there's an editor above that editor who's saying,
Speaker 1: we're never going to publish this. So this is what
Speaker 1: institutionalizes the fake news. And it's another thing that's noteworthy
Speaker 1: that what the left does is they constantly accuse us
Speaker 1: of their weaknesses. The most famous example of the whole
Speaker 1: Russia collusion hoax came from the Clintons were so weak
Speaker 1: on Russia, Like that's where it came from. They had
Speaker 1: to dependent on Trump. They are the defenders of democracy,
Speaker 1: even though they rig their own primaries and they anoint
Speaker 1: their nominee. It's the fake news. This is what comes
Speaker 1: up here. Yeah, so we're the real news at Breitbart.
Speaker 1: You guys are the real education at Prager. You and
Speaker 1: yet we're constantly being told that we're the ones you're
Speaker 1: making stuff up. Another example is with the anti Semitism stuff.
Speaker 1: Breitbart's owned by Jewish people. We have a Jerusalem bureau
Speaker 1: with the Star of David in the logo, and yet
Speaker 1: we're told that our comment stuff, are.
Speaker 3: You actually admitting that the Jews.
Speaker 1: The control the media, just control the media. It's the no.
Speaker 1: And this is and we're told that our comments section
Speaker 1: is is like a breeding ground for anti Semitism. Like
Speaker 1: that was not it's like, it's just stop it. But
Speaker 1: they won't stop it. They keep going because of the
Speaker 1: corporate incentives. Do you think that could change? Do you
Speaker 1: think is there a way to reach people now?
Speaker 3: Well, I think you bring up the term anti Semitism,
Speaker 3: and I think we can be honest about the fact
Speaker 3: that there are there is a huge problem with anti
Speaker 3: semitism right now, both on the left and on the right.
Speaker 3: And the reason that is the case is because we've
Speaker 3: been warning against this, they have cheapened the term anti semitism.
Speaker 3: When you rob wards of what they actually mean, the
Speaker 3: words lose their meaning. And the Anti Defamation League, the ADL,
Speaker 3: is at fault for really cheapening the term anti semitism
Speaker 3: by logging it at anybody for a very long time now,
Speaker 3: when true anti Semites are really coming up from every direction,
Speaker 3: the word is cheapened. You don't even know, like we
Speaker 3: can get Google giggle about the term anti semitism when
Speaker 3: it's addressed at me or at you, And then we
Speaker 3: can also understand that we have to take it very
Speaker 3: seriously when it's coming from certain places on the right.
Speaker 3: So so many words I can think of, so many words
Speaker 3: have been cheapened by the left. This is what Marxists
Speaker 3: do This is what I've noticed in education. Right, if
Speaker 3: language doesn't actually mean what it's supposed to mean, then
Speaker 3: then there's chaos and confusion everywhere. And so this is
Speaker 3: so much bigger than can the media be fixed? Can
Speaker 3: education be fixed? The question is, can we go back
Speaker 3: to those first principles of actually have words mean what
Speaker 3: they are supposed to mean, actually clean up this chaos?
Speaker 3: We have absolute chaos. Things don't things make no sense.
Speaker 3: And so how do you even how do you even
Speaker 3: converse if award means something to you that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: the same thing to me. Can it be fixed? I hope?
Speaker 3: So do we have a choice, I mean, we have
Speaker 3: no choice? Right, so we fight, right, I don't think
Speaker 3: that you're in this fight of trying to have real news,
Speaker 3: uh and and real accountability for news. And I don't
Speaker 3: think you think that I'm in this fight of education
Speaker 3: because either because we know we're gonna win, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: You know, you think George Washington knew he's gonna win.
Speaker 3: Do you think the signers of the Declaration of Independence,
Speaker 3: when I can only imagine their hand was probably shaking
Speaker 3: as rich as they were signing this possible death death
Speaker 3: wish of the of the Declaration of Did they know
Speaker 3: that they're going to win? I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: know that they they were going to win. I don't
Speaker 3: know whether I'm gonna win and in the realm of education,
Speaker 3: or you're going to win in the in the in
Speaker 3: the in the realm of of media. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. We fight for good, all of us.
Speaker 3: Anybody who's watching this, they know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: This is a fight between good and evil. It's it's
Speaker 3: it's the fight between the decent and the indecent. All
Speaker 3: we have to do, as decent people is fight the indecent,
Speaker 3: fight indecency. We may win, we may not win. This
Speaker 3: isn't that's in God's hands. But I know that when
Speaker 3: I meet my creator, when I'm an old lady sitting
Speaker 3: with my grandkids, I want to know that I've done
Speaker 3: everything possible to clear out the chaos for truth to
Speaker 3: be really real truth. Not your truth, might not my truth, right,
Speaker 3: none of that, and so that that that is really
Speaker 3: the real question. Are decent people willing to step up
Speaker 3: even without the promise of winning.
Speaker 1: Well, my truth is that I hate prager use a
Speaker 1: terrific mockumentaries, very short, which I love, so it's bite size,
Speaker 1: you guys can get it. It's the length of a
Speaker 1: TV show, super funny, and just the first five minutes alone,
Speaker 1: it just absolutely cooks.
Speaker 3: Everybody needs a good laugh these days.
Speaker 1: It is. It is, but it's a very conscious choice
Speaker 1: that you're making light of a very serious problem, which
Speaker 1: is hip piece journalism that's very malicious, and they changes
Speaker 1: your life. I said, I've had to deal with it
Speaker 1: on a personal level, just the hit pieces of horrible
Speaker 1: things that are unfair and untrue written about us. Did
Speaker 1: you have any examples when this is being put together
Speaker 1: about your life about really unfair journalists. Is there any
Speaker 1: story that you can relay from your past you thought, specifically,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of this individual or this outlet when this
Speaker 1: thing is coming together.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have so many of them. I remember
Speaker 3: one time I was on a flight to Dallas. I
Speaker 3: happened to sit next to a young woman from Stanford.
Speaker 3: She had no idea who I was. We were chatting
Speaker 3: for a while, and I was incredibly encouraging of her,
Speaker 3: her studies, of her life, and she really liked me.
Speaker 3: Let's just say that and Eventually she looked over and
Speaker 3: she said, you know, we spoke a lot about me,
Speaker 3: but what do you do? Who are you? And I said, well,
Speaker 3: I'm Marissa Strike, I'm the CEO of Prager You have
Speaker 3: your to Praguer You. And she looked at me. She's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. I studied communication at Stanford University and
Speaker 3: I actually did a study about Prager you. I thought
Speaker 3: you were a gateway drug for propaganda and right wing extremism.
Speaker 3: I actually have an essay written about you and your company.
Speaker 3: I said, well, now you know it wasn't true, do you.
Speaker 3: She's like wow, it was like totally educational for her.
Speaker 3: And then there's the great story of Nelly Boles, who
Speaker 3: really got I don't know if the word is red pilled,
Speaker 3: but she came out, she got to know Dennis Prager,
Speaker 3: she got to know all of us, and she's one
Speaker 3: of those stories who if you read her book, I
Speaker 3: encourage you to read about because she has a chapter
Speaker 3: about Praguer You where she knew she came out to
Speaker 3: write a hit piece about Prager You, and as she
Speaker 3: got to know us better, she just couldn't. She couldn't
Speaker 3: get herself to do that Luckily, she had so much
Speaker 3: integrity that she was willing to leave that entire I
Speaker 3: guess you could call it fake news industrial complex. She
Speaker 3: was willing to leave the entire thing and start something
Speaker 3: new with Barry Weiss. So we've had all kinds of
Speaker 3: success stories, stories that are more famous, like Delli's story.
Speaker 3: And then the Stanford student who who knows where she
Speaker 3: is right now? Hopefully she's doing good things right now.
Speaker 1: She runs the Free Press with Barry wife. You who
Speaker 1: aren't familiar, So okay, so I praguer you ever you
Speaker 1: go to pregger you dot com as or a specific
Speaker 1: url you want to give.
Speaker 3: Out to your website. Yeah, right, there, have fun, enjoy it.
Speaker 3: We need to smile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you will like it. You will laugh, and it's
Speaker 1: not long. Watch with some friends so that they will
Speaker 1: enjoy it. But let's discuss what you are doing now,
Speaker 1: because why the reason why the documentary works. The documentary
Speaker 1: works is because you guys are all about education. You're
Speaker 1: not about politics. Inevitably, everything is politics these days. The
Speaker 1: NFL draft is politics these days. I don't know why
Speaker 1: that is, but we got there. But overall, you're trying
Speaker 1: to take politics out of education more than you're trying
Speaker 1: to add it in. And I would submit that a
Speaker 1: lot of the public schools are injecting the politics. And
Speaker 1: I got into this with Jill recently talking about the
Speaker 1: scholastic books, which is the bane of my existence, which
Speaker 1: I complained about more than any other American. But what
Speaker 1: you guys are doing is you're just the initial mission
Speaker 1: statement is just education, right, I mean they give it
Speaker 1: to me in your words.
Speaker 3: Look, I'll be honest, it's what is education, inculcation. So
Speaker 3: people will say, well, inculcation is indoctrination, right, you have
Speaker 3: a perspective which you're teaching, right, And I'm not going
Speaker 3: to be by I'm not gonna lie about it. I
Speaker 3: believe that we need to teach goodness. I would like
Speaker 3: to indoctrinate young American kids to believe in goodness and
Speaker 3: to pursue ethics and morality and virtue. And so if
Speaker 3: you if you want to call me an indoctrinator, because
Speaker 3: that's what I want to teach, then so be it.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie that. I have
Speaker 3: a perspective that I think is very important. I think
Speaker 3: that America is the greatest country on God's Green Earth.
Speaker 3: And I think the reason it's great is not just
Speaker 3: because of its geography, but it's because the covenant that
Speaker 3: we have amongst us as people in understanding of what
Speaker 3: our DNA is. And if we don't teach young Americans
Speaker 3: how are has been formed, if we don't teach what
Speaker 3: I call cultural literacy and understanding of not just the
Speaker 3: American language, which is incredibly important for every American to
Speaker 3: know and speak with. If you come here, you need
Speaker 3: to learn our language, you also need to come here
Speaker 3: and understand our DNA. You need to understand why America
Speaker 3: is so prosperous, and that starts with the founding Documents,
Speaker 3: the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, some of the key
Speaker 3: moments in American history, both the blemishes and slavery and
Speaker 3: everything else, but also how unique America is a more
Speaker 3: perfect union. And so is that indoctrination, Alex, I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I think I think it's in quocation. I think
Speaker 3: if you want to live in this country and you
Speaker 3: want to raise your children in this country, you have
Speaker 3: a responsibility. We say at Pragger you in America, the
Speaker 3: people are the king. Okay, you can't be a lazy
Speaker 3: king if you're a king who doesn't understand what you're governing,
Speaker 3: what you're voting for, what you've inherited, then you're a bad,
Speaker 3: fat king, right. And so we want young Americans to
Speaker 3: understand what our DNA is, and we want to teach that,
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to apologize for that, And we
Speaker 3: don't want kids to learn the Marxist stuff that is
Speaker 3: tearing America apart. If you want to take America down,
Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to take America down
Speaker 3: through bullets and tanks. You will take America down by
Speaker 3: infiltrating into our major institutions, obviously our education institution. And
Speaker 3: you're going to start teaching young Americans to not know
Speaker 3: anything about America. And once that vacuum is created, when
Speaker 3: there is the knowing nothing. You've seen these men on
Speaker 3: the streets where we're showing you that kids don't know
Speaker 3: anything about our country, you have this huge vacuum. Well,
Speaker 3: what do you think is going to happen with that vacuum?
Speaker 3: That god size hole in our kids' hearts? Bad stuff
Speaker 3: is going to fill it in. And now we're living
Speaker 3: through that phase where it's not only that young Americans
Speaker 3: don't know about American history, don't underst stan Civics, don't
Speaker 3: understand our DNA. Now, they're taught lies and they believe
Speaker 3: those lies because they don't have the fundamental cultural literacy
Speaker 3: that they were supposed to be taught. And so look,
Speaker 3: you mentioned Scholastic. Let me give you an example. I
Speaker 3: know you're not a fan of Scholastic, but I'm just
Speaker 3: going to I'm going to drive that home even for
Speaker 3: a Reek. Okay, so for those who don't know what
Speaker 3: Scholastic is, you might remember that little red logo. These
Speaker 3: are They have the book fairs in schools. Usually it's
Speaker 3: in Q one of the school year, and the kids
Speaker 3: go and pick the books and usually they'll buy erasers
Speaker 3: and markers and other stuff, but they'll buy books too,
Speaker 3: And the teachers end up getting books from those book fairs,
Speaker 3: usually free, and they are these toolkits that help you
Speaker 3: teach whatever subject it is. It's usually social studies. Usually
Speaker 3: social studies are literacy. They use these Scholastic books and
Speaker 3: so the book I call it the educational industrial complex.
Speaker 3: You have the publishers, and you have the unions, and
Speaker 3: you have the schools, and everybody together pushes a certain
Speaker 3: lesson Now, the parents don't realize that these supplementary books
Speaker 3: are laced with propaganda and ideology. Right, They think, oh, well,
Speaker 3: it's I just want my kids to read. Right, America
Speaker 3: is not reading. I'm just so happy if my kid,
Speaker 3: my child is reading. Well. Who do you think incentivizes
Speaker 3: the publishers to write about certain things, the unions and
Speaker 3: the teacher training seminars, right, So for the for the
Speaker 3: for the for Scholastic, for example, as one of the
Speaker 3: may one of the major school school book publishers that
Speaker 3: have these these book fairs in the schools. It's a
Speaker 3: cash cow to be able to come out with a
Speaker 3: new book every single year that they can sell well.
Speaker 3: For the teachers' unions and the politicians, telling teachers to
Speaker 3: teach some of the new political agendas is a great
Speaker 3: thing because they want to inculcate into the classroom what
Speaker 3: it is that they want to teach. So a phone
Speaker 3: call to Scholastic saying, you know what we need to
Speaker 3: talk about. We need to push against ice. Okay, so
Speaker 3: you take the NEA Agenda twenty twenty five. NEA the
Speaker 3: National Educators Association, one of the largest teachers' unions in America. Right,
Speaker 3: they have probably close to three million members at this
Speaker 3: point in time. Their issue of business is we have
Speaker 3: to save the children who are being kidnapped out of
Speaker 3: schools because Ice is taking them. This is at the
Speaker 3: beginning of President Trump's administration. Nothing was happening yet. But
Speaker 3: somehow the NEA, they can read the future. They can
Speaker 3: read the great problems in America. Somehow they have that
Speaker 3: crystal ball, or maybe they create the problems right at
Speaker 3: the same time, they produce a toolkit. A toolkit is
Speaker 3: what I call the path of least resistance for the teacher. Right,
Speaker 3: it's a lesson plan in which books you should order. Hey, teacher,
Speaker 3: you don't even need to think that much. All you
Speaker 3: have to do is follow the toolkit and order the books. Okay,
Speaker 3: Scholastic shows up. What a wonderful publisher. They give Scholastic
Speaker 3: Gold a year, which is one of you know, their
Speaker 3: great books. What is the book Land of the Cranes?
Speaker 3: Look it up. Okay, I'm not making oh no.
Speaker 1: This was featured in our Jillsnonian podcast. But but please please.
Speaker 3: Land of the Cranes. Okay, who are the cranes? The
Speaker 3: undocumented immigrants that can soar above walls like birds, like cranes.
Speaker 3: This is what you want your fifth grade child to
Speaker 3: learn that walls don't exist because humans are like cranes
Speaker 3: that can fly over walls, because they're descendants of the Aztecs.
Speaker 3: Because the Reconquista movement, a movement that is, you know,
Speaker 3: pushing this ideology that we don't deserve to be here
Speaker 3: as Americans because we are living on stolen land. This
Speaker 3: is a book that Scholastic is putting in your child's
Speaker 3: book fair, and you're not even paying attention because you're
Speaker 3: just hoping that your child can read. Right. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: They've made it so difficult for the children to even
Speaker 3: read that by the time the parents sees a child
Speaker 3: even holding a book, they're like, okay, okay, my child
Speaker 3: is the least reading. Never mind what garbage is going
Speaker 3: into their minds. So this is why we created an
Speaker 3: alternative to it, because we basically want to say to
Speaker 3: the schools and to the teachers and to the parents,
Speaker 3: you don't have to buy the Scholastic books. You don't
Speaker 3: have to buy books that are endorsed by the teachers'
Speaker 3: unions who basically hate you if you're a conservative. Let's
Speaker 3: let's let's just call it outright. The teachers' unions, the
Speaker 3: SBOC News Guard, they're all part of this whole group
Speaker 3: of people that hate you, and they want your children
Speaker 3: to hate you too. That's what they want.
Speaker 1: This is really important, and this is what happens with
Speaker 1: some of these book fears, is that so I know
Speaker 1: what's in the books. So it's a lot of tran
Speaker 1: and stuff. It's a lot of reconquering Los Angeles for
Speaker 1: the mythical land of Asithlawn which never.
Speaker 3: Existed, the peaceful Lastics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course we got to go back to the
Speaker 1: glory days, the Aztecs, like that's the goal. And then
Speaker 1: a bunch of super cheap made in China toys that
Speaker 1: are not helping the kid read, non inspiring love for reading.
Speaker 1: It's not the classics, and it's all of these things
Speaker 1: that then my kid comes home and they're like, can
Speaker 1: you load up my ewallet so I can buy some
Speaker 1: of this stuff? And I'm like, no, I cannot, And
Speaker 1: then they think I'm the bad guy because I'm not
Speaker 1: providing them this indoctrination. At least I want to at
Speaker 1: least vet the books before the kids get indoctrinate. It
Speaker 1: seems like a basic thing for parents, and it does
Speaker 1: create this tension at home, and every single school has
Speaker 1: embraced it, which is completely off the wall. So here's
Speaker 1: what I ask, though, how's it going? Scholastic book Fair
Speaker 1: has been around since I think my dad was a kid.
Speaker 1: It's certainly been around my whole life. They go, are
Speaker 1: we getting better reading? What are the scores like?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Are we doing better? It is a genuine question as
Speaker 1: a country. Are are we doing better at education? No?
Speaker 3: I mean, we're doing better at spending more money on
Speaker 3: things that don't work. We're doing better at that, But
Speaker 3: we're definitely not doing better at reading. I mean. And
Speaker 3: people will make up all kinds of reasons and excuses.
Speaker 3: Un As somebody wrote The Guardian, they wrote a hit
Speaker 3: piece on Prager You saying that we're unfairly criticizing the
Speaker 3: what I call the educational industrial complex for the fact
Speaker 3: that the kids are doing worse and worse every single year,
Speaker 3: not just in reading, but also in math and science
Speaker 3: and basically almost anything that you can tangibly assess. And
Speaker 3: so they're saying that we're unfair. Where are we unfair?
Speaker 3: Because the COVID lockdowns? Okay, the COVID lockdowns, which by
Speaker 3: the way, happened because of them. Where are the ones
Speaker 3: who locked everybody up?
Speaker 1: Yea, they invented that problem.
Speaker 3: I mean it's been pretty much five years. Okay, So
Speaker 3: if you think I was thinking about this, a baby,
Speaker 3: a baby five years ago is now five years old.
Speaker 3: They should the five year old should start learning phonemic awareness.
Speaker 3: So this, this child that was a baby during the
Speaker 3: lockdowns cannot actually learn phonemic awareness today now that the
Speaker 3: child is five, because of the COVID lockdowns? What how
Speaker 3: long are you going to blame COVID, which you actually
Speaker 3: caused that you actually locked our kids out of, for
Speaker 3: why our children are not reading? It is obviously not
Speaker 3: the answer.
Speaker 1: So the answer is as long as they can. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the whole point is they're not here to solve problems.
Speaker 1: You're here to collect money and spend it. You brought
Speaker 1: the SPLC. I got to ask about this as were
Speaker 1: you guys on the hate list?
Speaker 3: Of course we're on the Hey.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys are on the hate list. And
Speaker 1: so now we know that this is another one where
Speaker 1: they invent the problem and then propose themselves as the solution.
Speaker 1: That they were astroturfing the racist demonstrations. They have this
Speaker 1: hate list out they say, these people are the threat.
Speaker 1: Give us more money so we can fix the threat.
Speaker 1: What was your reaction to the DJ's revelations that they
Speaker 1: were in on it the whole time and instigating a
Speaker 1: lot of the most dramatic acts of hatred that we've
Speaker 1: ever seen in the history of the country.
Speaker 3: I mean, my first reaction was finally, finally, you know,
Speaker 3: we've been the right planning about this issue for so long,
Speaker 3: and we feel like we're not heard. And you know, Alex,
Speaker 3: many of us feel like there's so many problems in
Speaker 3: our country. It's a huge country, so we're gonna have
Speaker 3: lots of problems, but it's hard not to be impatient
Speaker 3: about things getting you know, we want things addressed, right.
Speaker 3: We want the issue with NewsGuard the censorship to be addressed.
Speaker 3: We want the issues with EPSTEIN to be addressed. We
Speaker 3: want the issue with the SBLC to be addressed. There
Speaker 3: are a lot of issues to address in our country,
Speaker 3: and so I totally understand why some of us can
Speaker 3: be very impatient about things because we all feel like
Speaker 3: there are many, many significant issues that need to be addressed.
Speaker 3: For me, as an educator, the most important thing that
Speaker 3: needs to be addressed is our schools. This educational industrial complex,
Speaker 3: the fact that the SBLC gets to dictate who are
Speaker 3: the bad guys and who are the good guys. This
Speaker 3: is not just that they create problems for both sides
Speaker 3: in order to raise money then and basically have more
Speaker 3: political power. It's not just that the SBLC has been
Speaker 3: used to take organizations down to completely remove us from
Speaker 3: the playing field. You have the SBLC and NewsGuard working
Speaker 3: hand in hand to make sure that Prigger you content
Speaker 3: gets censored from schools, that I'm labeled as an anti
Speaker 3: Semite so that my content can't make it into Louisiana.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: This is very serious stuff. This is freedom of speech
Speaker 3: level of stuff, and for a long time we have
Speaker 3: been screaming about it. We've been screaming against this type
Speaker 3: of censorship, like calling you a hate speech organization or
Speaker 3: and I think the label they put on Peger you
Speaker 3: is anti government, which is kind of funny because I'm
Speaker 3: not a fan of big government. So maybe they got
Speaker 3: it right right, But but by doing so, you have
Speaker 3: the journalists endorsed to speak poorly about us. You have
Speaker 3: the schools scared to be associated with us. You know,
Speaker 3: in the last few years you had to really have
Speaker 3: real courage to be associated with Prager, you because of
Speaker 3: organizations like the SBLC. And so I say, finally, you know,
Speaker 3: finally we're starting to see more and and I train
Speaker 3: I'm grateful for the Trump administration for for doing these things.
Speaker 3: And I understand there are many many other things that
Speaker 3: they need to do, but we're starting to now see
Speaker 3: signs that they have the courage to go after some
Speaker 3: of these significant things. I don't know if you covered
Speaker 3: this right, Bart, but I remember the Charlottesville lie. I
Speaker 3: call it the Charlottesville le Do you remember the yeah.
Speaker 1: We call the Charlotte fill hoaks, but yeah.
Speaker 3: The hoax.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We were attacked because we brought on somebody from CNN
Speaker 3: who admitted that the whole thing was an entire hoss. Okay,
Speaker 3: and that was one I think that when we released
Speaker 3: that video, the SBLC started attacking us because they were saying.
Speaker 1: Well, how are you adds up?
Speaker 3: It totally adds up. So now I'm saying to myself, oh,
Speaker 3: now I know why the SBLC hated Prager. You so
Speaker 3: much for releasing a five minute video about the Charlottesville hoax,
Speaker 3: because the SBLC was behind that entire hoax.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where I'm hoping this is just the
Speaker 1: beginning of some of these things, because I would love
Speaker 1: to see how many SBLC articles that were completely bogus
Speaker 1: written about Breitbart were forwarded to advertisers and then cost
Speaker 1: us money when they were all based off of this
Speaker 1: huge fraud that they were carrying out. And then the
Speaker 1: fact that the whole Democrat establishment took that Charlotte Hill
Speaker 1: hoak that was create by the SPOC. Think about those videos,
Speaker 1: So the videos look ridiculous, and now you completely reappraise
Speaker 1: them with the guys with tiki torches and the grumpy
Speaker 1: faces and the goatee's. I think these guys aren't real.
Speaker 3: I mean, it looks like bad Hollywood.
Speaker 1: It looks like bad Hollywood. And now we know that
Speaker 1: a bunch of people are getting paid. Were these guys
Speaker 1: getting paid And we'll never know for sure, but we
Speaker 1: should do our best to turn over every stone that
Speaker 1: we can. And I think that this is hopefully the
Speaker 1: just the beginning, and I hopefully people in the administration
Speaker 1: will hear this that they know they got to push harder.
Speaker 1: Now they don't. This isn't the w Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's a good w but it's we got to We're
Speaker 1: got to put these people out of business.
Speaker 3: We really do, because these are the we And you
Speaker 3: know what, the hour glass the stand is is coming
Speaker 3: down real fastest. We are losing time. We're running out
Speaker 3: of time. And so, as I said, there are a
Speaker 3: lot of issues that I think the administration needs to address.
Speaker 3: The SPOC is a significant one, and there are more
Speaker 3: of those, but I think more wins like these ones,
Speaker 3: more of these, will encourage the administration to do what
Speaker 3: needs to be done and just be incredibly fast and
Speaker 3: bold about fixing some of these major issues in our country.
Speaker 1: All Right, So let's take a step back and go
Speaker 1: Praguer You. I want to introduce Praguer You to different
Speaker 1: groups of people, because this is going to be for
Speaker 1: people who are going to want to share your content
Speaker 1: in their lives. Where do you tell people to start
Speaker 1: who are completely unfamiliar with prager You or open minded?
Speaker 1: Where's the normal best entry point for your average person?
Speaker 3: So I describe prager You like a ministry, and I
Speaker 3: believe that education should be lifelong. It shouldn't be a
Speaker 3: pediatric experience. So just like a ministry, you walk into
Speaker 3: your church, you have your kid in one hand, you
Speaker 3: have your grandma on the other hand, and there's something
Speaker 3: for everybody, for you and for your child. Praguer You's
Speaker 3: edutainment platform is made for that. There is something for
Speaker 3: every single person to find multiple entry points. Whether you're
Speaker 3: interested in how to live a bitter life, whether you're
Speaker 3: interested in history, financial literacy, CIVIX, Bible, goodness, any of
Speaker 3: these things, there's something for you. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: agree with everything. I know you don't agree with me
Speaker 3: on everything, and you shouldn't write, but we will help
Speaker 3: you broaden.
Speaker 1: Your in particular because I can't think of anything on
Speaker 1: top of my head. We can find something.
Speaker 3: We can find something like the audience is like you
Speaker 3: are my people.
Speaker 1: I think the Venn diagram is somewhere like.
Speaker 3: Maybe the type of chocolate. Do you like it with
Speaker 3: the nuts or without the nuts? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It depends on the mood. So I'm probably pretty anyway,
Speaker 1: it's I'm derailing, but okay. So so it's.
Speaker 3: Magic and it's a ministry for everybody, and it's also
Speaker 3: I don't want to make it challenging and hard. I
Speaker 3: want to make it really easy. I know you're busy
Speaker 3: and you have a lot of things to take care
Speaker 3: of you. You have a family and a job and yourself.
Speaker 3: So let me make it easy for you to get
Speaker 3: vitamins for your brain. Five minute videos whether it's for
Speaker 3: you or for your child, about any of the core issues,
Speaker 3: whether it's cultural literacy, or just something that it's going
Speaker 3: to help you understand the world a little better. It's
Speaker 3: available for you. You go to prigger you dot com.
Speaker 3: You can also download the app. The will actually start
Speaker 3: studying you, so we can actually give you things that
Speaker 3: you're interested in based on what you say you know,
Speaker 3: topics of interest, or maybe the age range of your children.
Speaker 3: You mentioned Scholastic. You mentioned that you feel like you
Speaker 3: have to read the book before your children read the book. Alex,
Speaker 3: that sounds exhausting and I do.
Speaker 1: It's really and my second grader is constantly reading, so
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't and wait until they're in sixth grade. We
Speaker 3: are to read everything. My team does that for you. Now.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that you have to trust me on everything,
Speaker 3: but at least you know that the content that we make,
Speaker 3: whether it's a book, a magazine or a video, is
Speaker 3: patriotic and wholesome. I give you my word that that's
Speaker 3: what we do, and so that should be somewhat of
Speaker 3: a relief for you. I say, it's the path of
Speaker 3: least resistance towards goodness. Right, Just spend a few if
Speaker 3: you spend, if you and your family spend a few
Speaker 3: minutes with us, a few minutes with us every day,
Speaker 3: you will immediately become more discerning, more knowledgeable, happier and
Speaker 3: a better That is my commitment. That is the pragger
Speaker 3: You commitment. ROI return on investment for Prager You is
Speaker 3: return on influence. We want to influence you to have
Speaker 3: a better life, and we want we want to make
Speaker 3: it as easy as possible. You download the app, you
Speaker 3: spend a few minutes with us every day, and you
Speaker 3: will have that So.
Speaker 1: The whole suite. I want to get a sense of it,
Speaker 1: because for me, my access points are the five minute videos.
Speaker 1: I'll check out some of the podcasts. Our friend Chavis
Speaker 1: has a podcast with you guys. You guys have some
Speaker 1: other podcasts as well, so, but also of the kids literature,
Speaker 1: I've got some of that going. You've got all different
Speaker 1: grade levels, and then some of the kids programming the
Speaker 1: video whatever called streaming programming. What else? What am I missing?
Speaker 3: Yeah? The best way to understand this is we're piercing
Speaker 3: the entire educational industrial complex. I am making it easier
Speaker 3: for every American to learn about America in the easiest
Speaker 3: way possible. So if you go to prager you dot com,
Speaker 3: you can find stuff for kids. Here can find some
Speaker 3: stuff for adults. You can find books that align with
Speaker 3: your state standards. So if you're looking for well, I
Speaker 3: wonder what my fourth grader should learn if I live
Speaker 3: in California.
Speaker 1: State standards or they have to have representation of the
Speaker 1: trends and a furry.
Speaker 3: So actually the standards are quite broad. And what happens
Speaker 3: is many of the schools and the publishers, as I explained,
Speaker 3: are the ones who are pushing a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 3: So this is why you're seeing schools who have amazing
Speaker 3: school board members. And you don't understand why in the
Speaker 3: classrooms you're finding woke books. Well, the reason is because
Speaker 3: the publishers and the supplementary content that's making it into
Speaker 3: social studies and literacy studies classrooms. They don't actually go
Speaker 3: through the people who need to sign off on things.
Speaker 3: And that's why you'll find even in Red States or
Speaker 3: even Catholic schools and Christian schools, you'll find a lot
Speaker 3: of this what I call garbage literacy garbage because not
Speaker 3: everything is signed off on. And so I want to
Speaker 3: create an alternative, both for the parents and the teachers
Speaker 3: to have other supple mentary content, whether it's books, every
Speaker 3: book we make, we we have a show because I
Speaker 3: think kids like watching and it's really fun. And so
Speaker 3: I think you can have them read the book and
Speaker 3: you can have them watch a show and they will
Speaker 3: fall in love with learning, and they will fall in
Speaker 3: love with reading because it's going to be made fun.
Speaker 3: And for the parent, for a parent like you, you don't
Speaker 3: have to pre watch it. You can watch it alongside
Speaker 3: with them and it's fun, but you don't have to
Speaker 3: pre watch it, so so you can know that there
Speaker 3: is there is an alternative. So there's a lot going
Speaker 3: on on the Prayer, on the prager you site and
Speaker 3: the app. And the reason there's a lot going on
Speaker 3: is because we have an entire industry to take down with.
Speaker 3: As you mentioned, Scholassic has been around for one hundred years,
Speaker 3: and not to mention the amount of money that has
Speaker 3: been spent in America's education system really to basically ruin
Speaker 3: our country in similar ways.
Speaker 1: So my next question would be what are your hopes
Speaker 1: for Prager you medium long term? I know day to
Speaker 1: day you guys are growing, You've had all these new people,
Speaker 1: have got new shows going. You guys are always trying
Speaker 1: to of eight, what is the ultimate sort of long
Speaker 1: term goal because on net our education system is still
Speaker 1: getting worse. You guys are fighting back, but it's you're
Speaker 1: sort of alone in the wilderness here. We've I'm very
Speaker 1: troubled by it, by the trajectory, and it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like we're addressing any of the root causes, which are
Speaker 1: ham illegal immigration, and the teachers unions, which are kind
Speaker 1: of the thought and wokeness. We're not addressing any of
Speaker 1: that stuff. So it's as a people, so what do.
Speaker 3: We do well? It all comes down to in personal responsibility.
Speaker 3: Right for for a very long time, teachers, I've told
Speaker 3: you that you don't know anything about your kid's education,
Speaker 3: and therefore you should just bade them, feed them, take
Speaker 3: them to sports, and don't worry about it. The schools
Speaker 3: will take care of teaching their values, et cetera. We
Speaker 3: need to understand that we just can't do that. It
Speaker 3: is not true. You can't just drop off your child
Speaker 3: and hope that they're going to learn any everything they're
Speaker 3: supposed to learn. So one is we just have to
Speaker 3: change the culture. Parents. Just I know you're busy, but
Speaker 3: there's nothing more important than your children, and you're going
Speaker 3: to regret it if you're on involved. And so I
Speaker 3: want to make it as easy as possible for you
Speaker 3: to get involved in your child's education. And we're trying
Speaker 3: to do so. But you're still going to have to
Speaker 3: put in the work. You're not going to be able
Speaker 3: to rely on the schools to do what it is
Speaker 3: that you want them to learn and get exposed to. Right, So,
Speaker 3: even if you're not homeschooling your child, you need to
Speaker 3: still school at home. You still need to provide that inoculation.
Speaker 3: As far as future plans for praguer you, I got
Speaker 3: this idea from one of the hit pieces on US.
Speaker 3: Somebody asked me whether now that the Trump administration is
Speaker 3: defunding PBS, are we planning on replacing PBS as Dennis
Speaker 3: Praguer going to be the new big.
Speaker 1: Bird, and I was like, the striking resemblance.
Speaker 3: That is such a good idea.
Speaker 1: It's idea, that is.
Speaker 3: A great idea. So we're planning something. Let me just say.
Speaker 1: That that would be amazing. It does seem like you've
Speaker 1: got the attention of the White House and the Education Department,
Speaker 1: which hopefully is going away sometime soon. What do you
Speaker 1: think Washington can do to be productive to help you
Speaker 1: get your message out.
Speaker 3: I think that they should continue to not give us
Speaker 3: any money. That's it. I don't want a dollar from
Speaker 3: the government. I need to I think that people need
Speaker 3: to understand that the bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.
Speaker 3: And even organizations like mine, who we are aligned with
Speaker 3: the shrinking Department of Education and we are aligned with
Speaker 3: on many many things with the White House. We are
Speaker 3: not going to take the temptation of taking government money. Again.
Speaker 3: It's about self reliance. We are funded by the people
Speaker 3: for the people. The moment we start taking money from
Speaker 3: the government is going to be the moment that we
Speaker 3: take orders from the government. And we don't want that.
Speaker 3: And so we really appreciate what the Trump administration is
Speaker 3: doing I think that they need to continue to be
Speaker 3: brave and bold about shrinking the Department of Education so
Speaker 3: that in the future it doesn't exist, and it doesn't
Speaker 3: you know, continue to use that industrial conflict to ruin
Speaker 3: our schools, and we just you know, we continue to
Speaker 3: share the same information and that is in America, the
Speaker 3: people are the king, and that's that.
Speaker 1: So what excites You've got your podcast as well, which
Speaker 1: is which is great. I listened to it quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And what is exciting you right now? Because you guys
Speaker 1: are always so busy and vibrant around here.
Speaker 3: Lots of exciting things. I'd say, What's on my mind
Speaker 3: right now, and what I'm praying for is that the
Speaker 3: right doesn't take the black pill. I'm very concerned about that.
Speaker 3: I think that I understand human nature very well. I've
Speaker 3: worked with Dennis Brager for so many years, and that's
Speaker 3: pretty much what he always wanted to make sure that
Speaker 3: we have inculcated into this organization, is that human nature
Speaker 3: is not always going to be to do the right
Speaker 3: thing and to not always say, well, I'm going to
Speaker 3: wake up tomorrow and not be a victim. Right most
Speaker 3: human nature is to say, how can I blame somebody else,
Speaker 3: and we are very concerned in earlier years the left
Speaker 3: doing it, and now we're starting to see some of
Speaker 3: that black pilling on the right.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's wonder though. You look at some
Speaker 1: of the polls and how Trump continues to pull very
Speaker 1: well with conservatives, and then all your favorite conservative podcasters
Speaker 1: hate Trump now and hate everything he seems for, and
Speaker 1: then their numbers are very high, but doesn't match up
Speaker 1: with the polling. And you ever wonder how much of
Speaker 1: this is an SPLC joint now where they're just they're
Speaker 1: just act tried.
Speaker 3: I do wonder why so much of what they say.
Speaker 3: If you remove their face and their name and you
Speaker 3: just listen, it sounds like they're on the left. That
Speaker 3: really is you know, as a teacher, that's your homework assignment.
Speaker 3: Just forget who is speaking, forget what they look like
Speaker 3: and what they sound like. Just listen to what they're
Speaker 3: actually saying. They're saying the same thing that our adversaries
Speaker 3: on the left have been saying. And what they are
Speaker 3: saying is you are a victim. Take the black pill.
Speaker 3: That's essentially what they are saying. And that concerns me
Speaker 3: because I know that a nation that takes the black
Speaker 3: pill is a nation that is vulnerable and is under attack.
Speaker 3: And if America falls, the whole world goes into darkness.
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: So that's what's on my heart and what's on my mind.
Speaker 3: I think that young people need to resist taking the
Speaker 3: black pill. It's not to say that they don't have hardship.
Speaker 3: People will have a hardship. Life is full of hardship.
Speaker 3: I actually think that, you know, things are pretty good
Speaker 3: in America. The unemployment rate is down, the economy is
Speaker 3: doing better and better. The borders, which has been a
Speaker 3: major major concern of ours, has not been as secure
Speaker 3: as it is today in many, many years. There are
Speaker 3: many things that are working. We just talked about taking
Speaker 3: down the SPOC like. There are a lot of things
Speaker 3: that are working really well. But the problem is if
Speaker 3: you spend time on social media, which if you're young,
Speaker 3: that's probably what you do, You're constantly being fed a
Speaker 3: steady diet of black pills, and it's unhealthy for It's
Speaker 3: unhealthy for your soul, it's unhealthy for your mind. I
Speaker 3: think people need to put the phones away. They need
Speaker 3: to go on a date, they need to go get
Speaker 3: married and ask you know, ask a girl out, and
Speaker 3: and and get a real job, you know, get a
Speaker 3: real job where you're interacting with real humans. And I
Speaker 3: think that once you do those things, you'll just take
Speaker 3: a deep breath and you'll realize how lucky we are,
Speaker 3: what a great country, how how proud we are to
Speaker 3: be American. Finally, we're not sitting there like a little
Speaker 3: fat rabbit waiting for the rest of the world to
Speaker 3: come and eat us up, like you know China. I mean,
Speaker 3: we were the laughing stock of the world. Now now
Speaker 3: now we're strong, Now we're proud. So I want I
Speaker 3: want people to realize that we always have a choice.
Speaker 3: You have a choice of taking the black pill and
Speaker 3: identifying as a victim. Or you have a choice of
Speaker 3: taking the white pill and dealing with whatever hardship you
Speaker 3: have and just allow it to make you stronger. Choose
Speaker 3: the white pill and you will win. Choose the black
Speaker 3: pill and you will lose. And as America, I think
Speaker 3: that's the choice that's presented to us right now.
Speaker 1: So last thing, so one thing that I've asked you
Speaker 1: about this before you push back, you ever see yourself
Speaker 1: getting in the entertainment space, because say I hate prager you.
Speaker 1: It is informative, you will learn something if you watch it,
Speaker 1: but it's mostly an entertainment product. And I say this
Speaker 1: specifically because I think that's going to encourage more people
Speaker 1: to watch it. It's mostly funny, like that's mostly the
Speaker 1: point of it.
Speaker 3: To me.
Speaker 1: I learned a bit and I related to you and
Speaker 1: your team, but it's funny. Is there more of that
Speaker 1: in the future.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's hard to you know, never say never,
Speaker 3: they say, But I think that there are other organizations
Speaker 3: and companies that do a great job at the stuff
Speaker 3: that I don't know how to do. Right bart in clinic, right,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go into the news news world,
Speaker 3: And I think that there are other companies that are
Speaker 3: trying to make conservative, wholesome movies and shows, and they're
Speaker 3: pretty good at it, and we're supportive of that. So
Speaker 3: for now, we're going to do edutainment, educational entertainment. We're
Speaker 3: going to make sure that learning about America Civics history
Speaker 3: is not boring, which is why it's entertaining. And I
Speaker 3: think we have a lot more work to do here.
Speaker 3: I'm very very passionate about the education of young Americans,
Speaker 3: so for now, that's going to be my focus.
Speaker 1: But it does feel like there's got to be a
Speaker 1: combination of some of these themes here about how we
Speaker 1: want people off their phones. More people are liking going
Speaker 1: to a live event. People want a little education, they
Speaker 1: want a little entertainment, if they want a little news.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's something that maybe me you turning point,
Speaker 1: we shall get together. We should all get together think
Speaker 1: about how to do something like that, because there's got
Speaker 1: to be some sort of a variety type thing to
Speaker 1: offer that. I think we do. People gather, But so
Speaker 1: many of our friends now took the black Pill over
Speaker 1: the last six months for some reason, which is so
Speaker 1: wild and inexplicable unless there's another bag of cash somewhere
Speaker 1: else that we haven't figured out where it's coming from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's money. It's hard to
Speaker 3: know if it's money, or it's just again human nature,
Speaker 3: human nature.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of that, which is almost scarier.
Speaker 3: Yeah me. Yeah, I think they've become true believers. They
Speaker 3: just took the black pill and they truly believe in
Speaker 3: that darkness, and it's hard to come out of darkness.
Speaker 3: So you mentioned something about all of the stuff that
Speaker 3: happens in social media and just and the blessing of
Speaker 3: actually living in not in the virtual world. And you
Speaker 3: know your work is in the virtual world. My work
Speaker 3: has been much in the virtual world. We've benefited from
Speaker 3: social media. But my prediction as an entrepreneur, I like
Speaker 3: to run against the herd and try to see, you know,
Speaker 3: around corners, what America needs, what our children need. I
Speaker 3: actually think they need less time on the internet, less
Speaker 3: time online, and I think they're going to start feeling it.
Speaker 3: That's why you're seeing this religious revival of people going
Speaker 3: to church and more and more people want to be
Speaker 3: actually outdoors. And so that is also why we started
Speaker 3: producing physical books. It's why we created a board game,
Speaker 3: the America two fifty Board Game. And it's not necessarily
Speaker 3: because we couldn't make a game that's on the internet.
Speaker 3: But I said, I think people need a sabbath. I
Speaker 3: think people need to take a break. You need to
Speaker 3: spend some time with your family, with your children, just
Speaker 3: turn off the iPad and just sit there and do physical,
Speaker 3: tactile things together. And these screens on so many levels,
Speaker 3: it's so bad for you, right, And so this is
Speaker 3: why we're also so adding some of these physical activities
Speaker 3: where people can just just shut everything down and just
Speaker 3: be with the people they love and interact with something fun.
Speaker 3: So we made this America to fifty board game. We're
Speaker 3: going to be making more of these kinds of activities
Speaker 3: that bring you and your family and your friends together
Speaker 3: and put away really the barrage of black bills that
Speaker 3: mostly coming from the internet.
Speaker 1: Absolutely right versus right. Always a pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1: Congrats on all the great work and praguer You. I
Speaker 1: always say this, I'm a praguer You donor. I donate
Speaker 1: more every year. Everyone else should go to praguer you
Speaker 1: dot com and give. This is not sponsored or anything
Speaker 1: like that. This is just something purely because I love
Speaker 1: you guys work, and I love Dennis so much, so
Speaker 1: always in my prayers as well, So thank you for
Speaker 1: doing this with me.
Speaker 3: Thank you