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Speaker 1: Life Audio. What if the biggest problem in your life

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Speaker 1: managing appearances. We know the right thing to say, We

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Speaker 1: often know the right way to show up. But every

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Speaker 1: once in a while, something can slip out of us.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's anger, maybe it's envy, maybe it's impatience, and

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Speaker 1: we're reminded that not all is well. What we're going

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Speaker 1: to learn in Mark chapter seven is that Jesus is

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Speaker 1: not interested in appearances. He's interested in our heart. And

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Speaker 1: the really good news is that Jesus is actually about

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Speaker 1: the transformation of our hearts, about our inside where it

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Speaker 1: really matters. Hey, everyone, welcome back to How to Say

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Speaker 1: the Bible. My name is Nicole Yunis. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: your pastor your fellow journeyer on this road together as

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Speaker 1: we are exploring what the Bible has to teach us

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Speaker 1: and how it applies to our everyday life. And we

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Speaker 1: are in the Gospel of Mark right now together in

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Speaker 1: a series, and within this series, we're in like a

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Speaker 1: mini part of the series where we're talking about moving

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Speaker 1: from confusion to clarity and what I love about Mark

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Speaker 1: chapter seven is we actually get a chance to see

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Speaker 1: how conflict can help us clarify what we understand and

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Speaker 1: what we know. We open with conflict, and just as

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Speaker 1: a public service announcement, Jesus is in a lot of

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Speaker 1: conflict a lot of times, and a lot of us

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Speaker 1: don't think that peace is about conflict, but really peacemaking

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Speaker 1: is about pursuing the truth and living in reality. And

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Speaker 1: what we see Jesus doing with love and with patience,

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Speaker 1: not with aggression, not with dehumanizing anyone, is he will

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Speaker 1: constantly point to the truth. He will not allow things

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Speaker 1: that's what we see as we open up this chapter

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Speaker 1: as Jesus enters into yet another conflict, this time with

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Speaker 1: It's about this idea of what does it really mean

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Speaker 1: point to what matters in the heart and understanding that

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Speaker 1: it is not our actions that actually say what the

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Speaker 1: heart is. It's what the heart does. Now, it's not

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Speaker 1: that our actions don't matter, because when our heart is

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Speaker 1: full of the fruit of the spirit, when our heart

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Speaker 1: is actually living in love, we will have actions that

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Speaker 1: come out of that love. But everyone in this story

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Speaker 1: And the Pharisees, who are the religious leaders of the day,

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Speaker 1: as it says in Proverbs, which is your heart. And

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Speaker 1: righteous living is the fruit of a heart of following Jesus.

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Speaker 1: the corrupting power of sin in our lives. The first

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Speaker 1: thing that sin breaks is our relationship with our creator.

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Speaker 1: we're not meant to be here on this earth, the

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Speaker 1: greater problem than your individual behavior today. It is the

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Speaker 1: our Jesus says his sacrifice, his life, and his death

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Speaker 1: So when Jesus says to the Pharisees, it's not what

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Speaker 1: goes into your body that defiles you, it's what comes

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Speaker 1: he is the only one who can be the true

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Speaker 1: allows us to experience real transformation. All right, everyone, Next

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Speaker 1: week will be in Mark chapter eight. I look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing you then. How to Study the Bible with

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