WEBVTT - The Big Weekend Pod 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College All Things 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.440 Hillsdale Hillsdale dot ed or I encourage you to take 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.920 advantage of the many free online courses there, and of 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.280 course I'll listen to the Hillsdale dialogues, all of them 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.560 at q for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:19.200 iTunes and Hillsdale Morning Glory and even Grace America. Welcome 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.280 to the Big Weekend Pod. And what a week it was. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.239 I have talked about pretty much everything, at least a 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.400 little bit during the week, but I would guess out 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.120 of the seventy five segments that make up every week 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:34.200 of the U Hewitt Show, I devoted sixty at least 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.120 to the fact that we're on the verge of a 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.920 major battle with Iran, one that could be quite dangerous 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.920 to American troops, soldiers, sailors, airman all throughout the region, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.160 could be very dangerous to Israel, to our allies. Therefore, 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:52.440 President Trump is surging all sorts of force into the region. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.800 The second aircraft carrier is not going as we thought 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.440 on Thursday. By Friday morning, we were sure that George H. W. 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.520 Bush was not being dispatched. It's one carrier group, bunches 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.520 of destroyers, lots of Aegis class cruisers, They have air 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:09.000 defense systems, they have knockdown missiles. I don't really want 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:14.200 to try to see how great the missile defense is. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.080 That's not why we're doing this. I think President Trump 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.280 is doing this because he has a red line and 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.680 he can't walk it back, and he doesn't want to 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.640 walk it back. If he does, he'll be in the 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.720 same position as President's Biden and Obama. If you draw 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.119 a red line, you got to enforce it. I think 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.679 Donald Trump will enforce it. But I believe he's going 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.400 to make sure that the risk two American troops allies, 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.319 especially Israel, is not any higher than it has to be, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.360 and there's always risk, as Ambassador Michael urn for Israeli 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:46.920 Ambassador the United States noted on Thursday's program, the Sheffield 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:52.160 nineteen eighty two was a Royal Navy HMS Sheffield destroyer 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.040 and it was in part of the armada that went 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.600 to the Falklands and a couple of Argentinian Exo set 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.200 were fired from fighter jets margit one got it. Twenty 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.800 sailors were killed on the twenty three seriously wounded, and 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.680 the Sheffield eventually sunk. Even though it didn't sink immediately, 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.040 they couldn't get it back to any place that could 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.120 be repaired in time before it sunk. So there is 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.680 real risk. There is real danger to your prayers for 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.680 the members of the military in there. But I don't 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.720 know that we can go backwards. And certainly the West 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.520 has a moral authority to say you may not slaughter 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.160 thirty thousand of your people and expect the West to 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.760 turn away. But preparing to do it as safely and 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.320 as quickly as possible makes a lot of sense. Negotiations 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.080 broke down on Friday. The Iranians are saying they didn't 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.440 break down. Obviously, they broke down. There's nothing to talk about. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.000 They say it's only the nuclear art so but they 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.440 have no nuclear program. It was obliterated by President Trump. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.959 So I'm hoping, really hoping that by the end of 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.959 this half year, by the end of June, the Islamic 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.760 Republic of Iran is no more and there's a new 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.480 regime there. Don't know what it's going to look like. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.880 Just cannot have a fanatic at the top of it. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.919 So that's mostly what I talked about. Today with all 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.959 of our regular guests for the weekend review show, Matt Knee, 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:08.040 Ben Dominic, Eli Lake, of course John Ellis from News Items, 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.800 so enjoy, sit back and catch up on whatever you 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:16.720 may have missed concerning our looming battle with Iran's America. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.320 Good weekend pod to you all. Good weekend broadcast to 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.680 you all. I'm beginning the weekend review as I do 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.480 every weekend with John Ellis, editor in chief and founder 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.360 of News Items, the one newsletter you need every morning 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.440 to cover the waterfront. Hello John, good weekend to you. 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.280 I hope you were going to enjoy the Super Bowl. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.119 I pray You're not a New England fan. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.559 I'm not. I'm a Denver Broncos fan. So I'm disappointed 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.520 by last week or two weeks ago. 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:47.720 Yeah, I don't think I can handle another Patriots when John, 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.280 at this hour, the Dow Jones industrial averages crossed the 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.840 fifty thousand mark. It's going to maybe close for the 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.800 first time about fifty thousand. That's after a terrible week, 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:03.920 and after bit coin dived and silver dove and gold 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.400 kind of I think your word with steady ish, what 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:07.360 do we make of all this? 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.320 Well, the markets had a skittish week. Obviously, this week 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:16.200 we had three big things. One anthropic, the AI company 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:22.279 released the latest version of its claud program, and the 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.279 take from that was that since Claude could write any 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:30.039 software that you wanted, software companies were no longer as 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.200 valuable as everybody thought they were. So there was this 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.000 huge sell off of software companies and that was its 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.720 own little piece of panic on Wall Street. Second was 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.359 the price of bitcoin just collapsed on the course of the 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:49.280 last five days. It rebounded a little bit today. Bitcoin 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.919 had been sort of marketed as a store of value 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.919 that you didn't have to worry about international crisis or 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.840 deficits because it was its own ecosystem and as long 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:02.800 as is everybody agreed that it was worth x, and 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:08.960 it was worth x. That that came undone with with, 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.240 you know, what was going on in the markets, and 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.359 that was sort of terrifying for people who had thought 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:20.160 that cryptocurrencies were here to stay, let's put it that way. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:25.719 And then the third major development was the same development, 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.680 which was the major tech companies were spending vast sums 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:34.480 of money on the buildout of data centers and the 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:38.960 power stations to power those data centers, and you know, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.520 Amazon is going to spend one hundred and eighty billion 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:46.800 dollars next year on Capex. That created the you know, 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.960 yet again the narrative that there's a huge AI bubble 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.000 and that it's going to burst. There's no doubt that 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.200 there is some sort of bubble in AI, but it's 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:00.320 also a revolution that's taking place, and so if you 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:04.279 believe in the revolution, you probably want to stick with John. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.960 Amazon's David Bonson explained to me sometime ago that when 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.440 the dot com bubble blew up in two thousand, didn't 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.960 mean that every dot com company did not return value 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:16.520 over a long period of time, just meant that a 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.839 lot of them crashed and some of them survived. Do 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.640 you think that's going to be the model here, that 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.240 some of the AI companies will thrive and survive and 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:24.599 others will just be wiped out. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.640 We'd be huge consolidation in the same way that there's 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.480 huge consolidation in the entertainment industry right now, right, I mean, 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:37.680 Rupert sold Fox News entertainment assets to Disney. You know 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.039 Disney's in trouble now, will they be bought by a 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.839 big tech company? I mean, eventually you know, twelve companies 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.080 become seven companies become three or four companies, And that's 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:51.400 that's likely to happen in the AR space because you know, 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.320 the cost of building out all this stuff is so 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.080 vast and the revenue at the moment is so thin that, 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.400 you know, start up AI companies, unless they're really focused, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.200 I just can't make it. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.600 It's just not going to happen. Yeah, I've been meaning 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.840 to ask you for a year or so, John Ellison, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.320 I've never met Rupert Murdoch. I've never talked to him, 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.679 but it sure does seem to me over many decades 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.920 he has been among the most nimble of investors and 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:20.200 far sighted of entrepreneurs. Does anyone compare with them in 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:20.840 your book? 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.400 Oh, there are a lot of great investors, but Rupert, 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.120 you know, in the entertainment space or the media space 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.200 is partly is probably you know, one of the most 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:38.760 if not the most successful. What sort of distinguished Rupert was? 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.360 I mean, you look at what he did with Fox News. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:45.760 People forget that Fox News lost money for ten years 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.800 at the beginning. Rupert had to pay the cable companies 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.680 had to pay. For instance, cable vision here in New 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:58.360 York ten dollars per subscriber. So you know, there were 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.320 three million subscribers to cable vision, and Rupert had a 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.320 wady a check every year for thirty million to be 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:09.840 on the cablevision system, right, and the table vision system. 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.040 And he wasn't on channel four, channel seven of the system. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.800 He was on channel like one on nine or something. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.000 But he stuck with it because he believed that fifty 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:23.760 percent of the American television audience was quote underserved, and 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.880 he invested, and he probably invested two or three billion 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.280 dollars when it was all said and done. And eventually 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.400 I turned the corner, and now is you know what 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:37.480 accounts for roughly ninety percent of the Box Corporation's pre 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:38.160 tech profit. 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.840 Visionary is a word I don't use often, but that 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:42.880 was visionary. Let me talk to you about what I 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.400 think is a visionary story. You sent me out of China. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.520 They're no longer going to award well, they're not going 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.920 to stop awarding PhDs for research, but they're going to 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:57.200 start awarding them for actual breakthroughs and invention. I think 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.959 that's brilliant. Where did you learn about that? 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:00.560 Well? 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.880 I read about it in one of the you know 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:08.000 the Asian newspapers, and I was done by it because 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.960 it seemed to me such a simple idea. They're calling 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:16.320 it practical PhDs, right, so instead of you know, getting 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:20.480 a PhD and you know whatever, you get your PhD 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:26.280 in building how to build a better highway, right, And 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.000 that seemed to me like there's so many inventive people 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.120 all around the world, but also in the US, where 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.479 if you offered them a PhD in doing something practical, 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.120 there would be huge take up on that, and I 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.160 think it would lead to an explosion of innovations. 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.160 So it's a great idea. Machine copy it. Let's go 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.520 to story number three bad news and maybe two grim 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.439 you put it. Al Qaeda has a network of affiliates 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.440 and they together have more than fifty times the number 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.920 of recruits they had at nine to eleven. That's the 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:04.960 kind of exponential growth we don't need to see. John Ellis, Yes, 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:06.560 it's it's it's it's. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.320 You know Africa, which you know at the time of 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.599 nine to eleven, al Kaina had no presence in Africa. 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.800 Now it has a significant presence there, it has a 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:23.200 significant president across South Asia, obviously India. Paka, I mean 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:28.840 Pakistan and Afghanistan, and then the various you know, quote 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.080 subsidiaries in quote in European countries and here in the US. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.640 It's it's it's a ticking time bomb. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.240 It is, especially when you compare it with your fourth story. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.679 The United States economy is not prepared to scale on 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:48.640 defense related things like munitions, and China has already scaled. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.440 If al Qaeda is growing exponentially and China's growing It's navy, 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.920 for example, by leaps and bounds every month, producing more 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:57.719 ships than we do in a year, how long does 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.960 it take for us to actually get back in the game, 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:00.520 do you think? 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:07.559 I mean, we've covered this story of We think one 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.480 of the major stories of our time is the force 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.280 rating us of the US military, and what we've built 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.920 since the end of the Cold War is an unbelievably 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:24.880 efficient consumer economy at the expense of having the resources 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.960 to do some sustain production of military hardware of all 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:34.600 types to enable US to wage war or fight wars 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.880 in any number of theaters. So you have a challenge 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.839 from the Middle East, Iran, you have a challenge from 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.920 Russia and Ukraine. You have a challenge from China and Taiwan, 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.120 and you have a challenge in Africa from al Qaeda. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:54.559 You know, we need a lot of guns to be competitive, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:59.080 if you will, in those theaters. And what we found 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:04.040 is that our capacity to produce the weapons to you know, 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:09.960 to be able to sustain longer term campaigns isn't there. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.559 And so it's a huge challenge for a Secretary accept 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.520 and his team at the Defense Department to whip that 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:22.480 into shape because you know, conflict are coming. It's not 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.680 it's not if it's when. 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.880 I recommend everyone read Arthur Hermann's Freedom Fortune and what 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.440 we can do if we choose to do. Last story 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.880 is about the opioid empandemic, and I was kind of 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.280 stunned to learn it's one of the major drivers of 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.920 realignment in the United States over the past sixteen twenty years, 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.640 moving people from a ten year at the Republican That's remarkable. 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:44.600 Yeah. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.680 After the twenty twenty four election, I participated in a 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.600 couple of roundtables, and you know, I was why did 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.120 Trump win? And everybody said the same thing, which was, 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:59.600 you know, inflation and immigration and nobody like Biden. But 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.560 I made the point without evidence that I thought the 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.079 thing that supercharged the immigration issue was the fentanyl crisis, 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.960 and lo and behold there comes this academic study which 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:19.079 shows that where the fentyl crisis was most acute, those 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:24.400 congressional districts, those states, those state senate districts, et cetera 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:30.080 progressively voted Republican and that I think has to do 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.400 with the fact that Democratic policy was to let as 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:37.480 money and as possible, and voters didn't like that. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:37.720 Out. 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.000 Yeah, fentanyl deaths are a law and order issue. Behind 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.160 the tragedy and the great that's the law and order issue. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.559 John Ellis follow him on Exit Ellis Items. Find news 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.480 items that by googling news items and John Ellis, and 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.000 thank you for your weekly contribution. John. I'll be right 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:59.439 back America. Eli Laynett on the UK. Chack Borger Back America. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.240 I'm Eli lake Is with the Free Press. He's also 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.600 the host of the Breaking History podcast there as well 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.800 as a contributor. I've been following the story about our 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.959 looming battle with Iran extensively. Eli, welcome. My assessment after 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.800 the meeting broke up in oman early hours of this 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:21.200 Friday morning is that Iran is going to go full Alamo. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:22.520 That's my assessment. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.240 Do you agree yes, and I think in some ways 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.080 it's baked into the ideology of the regime. They are 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:34.280 an apocalyptic kind of cult of a regime, and this 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:38.400 you can see it from how they've purged dissenters in 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.640 the past, and you can see it from the rhetoric 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.720 of Kamenae, and that's what's going to I think you're right. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.720 Full Alimo means that there won't be anyone left in 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.640 the regime at the end of any conflict, but there 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.240 will be quite a few casualties on the other side 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.479 along the way. Santa Ana's army did not come out unscathed, 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.960 and I think they were defeated in a subsequent battle. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.800 Do you think that Iran has the ability to inflict 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.560 significant casualties on the United States? 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.120 Not on the United States. But I just want to 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.840 go back to what you said. I think Kameney is 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:17.360 willing to kind of drive his country into the Abyss, 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.160 and we didn't need this confrontation. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:21.200 To know that. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.720 I do think if comedy has taken out, there will 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.520 be a battle internally for who would be the next 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.240 supreme leader who takes over. And if you can combine 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.440 that with as Israel did in the twelve date war, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.880 taking out some of the top echelon of the military 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:43.880 IRGC leadership, there is an opportunity that then you make 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.880 the choice very real, and I think there's enough corruption. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.200 Your great interview with Kareem Sagriport made the point that 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.920 it started off twenty percent Charlatan, eighty percent true believer, 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.240 and now it's eighty percent Charlatan twenty percent true believer. 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:04.240 My hope is that you maybe avoid some bloodshed if 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:08.080 you take out a couple of Charlatans and true believers 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.840 and you sort of put the choice again to the Charlatan, saying, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.800 you know, you can go the easy way or the 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:15.760 hard way, as they say. 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.120 Eli. I've read twice or listened to twice in the 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.600 last week Empire of Terror by Mark Selenski. I don't 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.280 know if you've read it, but it's about the IRG. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.680 No I haven't. I'll put that on my list. It's 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.920 about six years old, but as of six years ago, 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.680 the IRGC is about one hundred and fifty thousand, the 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.280 regular Iranian Army is another four hundred thousand, And that 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.600 took away a lot of my hope for the quick 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:42.000 exit for the regime, because that one hundred and fifty 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.920 thousand will be killed by the Iranian citizen re after 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.640 they murdered at least thirty thousand people. There will be revenge. 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:54.360 There will not be a coalition of amnesty granting people 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:58.800 they're angry. Doesn't that decrease the likelihood of anything other 0:16:58.840 --> 0:16:59.800 than full Alamo? 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:05.000 Well, if rez Apolovy, who I wrote about this week, 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:10.919 can unify the opposition and implement a transition plan, he 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.320 has spoken about amnesty for lower and mid level folks. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:15.639 I don't know that you're going to. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.520 See that level of it, but I should say it's 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.240 certainly there, and it reminds me many years ago, almost 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:26.040 twenty years ago, I interviewed Iatol Fomani's grandson and one 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.520 of that's I was at the time very much taken 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.159 in by the kind of idea of nonviolent resistance or 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.880 people power Gene Sharp and when I put it to him, 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.960 he said, there's such a blood dead at this point 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:42.280 that people will extract a heavy price once once the 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.080 Mulla's topple. And that's coming from you know, the bloodline 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:46.160 of the founder of the revolution. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.159 Well, Yashar Ali, with whom I don't often agree is 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.480 right about the fact that as the internet connectivity is restored, 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.600 we will see more and more of what we saw 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.800 a few of this just absolutely horrific videos, trucks running 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:04.680 through through entire crowds, machete to a young lady, the horrible, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.760 horrible videos. And I the trauma that Israel went through 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.560 on ten to seven has now been visited by their 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.919 own government on the people of Iran, doesn't that. I 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:18.359 just think it creates conditions that we've not seen before. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:25.960 There will certainly be some vengeance. However, there I think 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.199 is an opportunity for leadership again, you know, keeping an 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:30.879 eye on the prize. I do think that there's an 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:35.040 opportunity at least and maybe that this is a role 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.280 for the United States and our intelligence services to effectively 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.639 try to buy people off and coerce them. And you 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:48.000 can do that by killing some of the prominent leaders 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.520 and then saying do you want the same faith, do 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.439 you want to be on the same kill list, or 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:52.840 do you want to face the people? And that so 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.360 there isn't maybe an opportunity to step aside. My concern 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.520 would be that if there was a quick fall of 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.560 the regime, there was something in the interim that there 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.000 would be an opportunity for a kind of insurgency that 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:11.199 would be filled by the ranks of these killers you 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.159 know at the top right now, which is a similar 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:14.960 dynamic of what we saw in Iraq. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.439 Well, you know, I want to know if you agree 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.840 as well, and feel free to tell me no, you're stupid. 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:25.680 Prior to the nineteen ninety one Gulf War One, the 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.919 casualty estimates that the American public was made ready for 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.640 was in six figures. Same thing happened twenty years later 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.240 in two thousand and three. Be prepared for big casualties 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.320 in both wars. It was under one hundred and fifty 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.160 in the initial invasion and in two thousand and three. 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.480 Of course it went into the thousands over the long 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.359 term war, but it was a less than one hundred 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.520 and fifty in Iraq in two thousand and three, less 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.159 than one hundred and fifty, which is a huge number 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.000 for America, but never let less than what we were expecting. 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.879 In nineteen ninety one, Ambassador Orrin came on form Israeli 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.760 Ambassador United States WEWICS this week to say, remember the Sheffield, 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.920 Remember the Sheffield, Remember the Sheffield, the Royal Navy destroyer 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.520 that was hit by an EXO set from an Argentinian 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.320 jet fighter in nineteen eighty two, killing twenty sailors, and 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:17.160 they could get off a lot of lucky shots. Has 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.600 anyone talked about to the American people about to be 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:21.840 prepared for casualties. 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.399 No one's talked about that. I do think that is 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.560 a realistic thing in terms of the potential to hit 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.720 the bases. As I wrote this week, we have an 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.800 interceptor shortage for our missile defense systems, which are very 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.280 good but very expensive, and so the math game right 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.360 now favors the aggressors of the people who can build cheap, 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.680 realistic missiles like Russia against Ukraine or Iran against Israel 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.040 as we saw in the Twelve Day War, and there 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.720 is a potential for that. My understanding is a lot 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:53.480 of the military planning and including with Israel, is trying 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.400 to figure out if you can have a first wave 0:20:55.440 --> 0:21:00.000 of attack that overwhelms and pretty much dismantles Iran's missile capability. 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:01.840 I don't know the answer to that, but. 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.120 You know, I trust the Israeli intelligence, and I trust 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:07.120 the American hardware. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.080 I trust the discombobulator. I don't know if you heard 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:10.879 President Truy I. 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.240 Trust the discard that would be great, right, exactly right? 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:13.800 Do you think? 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:16.520 No? 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:17.639 I think so. 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:20.640 This is one of these situations where as a journalist 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.280 who's done reporting on it, but I'm not yet ready 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:24.879 to publish it. But I'll just tell you in general 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:28.639 terms what I've heard. The Israelis figured out both a 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.439 protocol and a technology that allowed them to blind the 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.600 not just the air defense system, but the command and 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:38.000 control of their adversary. And you first saw that against Hezbollah, 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.040 then you saw it against Iran in the Twelve Day War, 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.160 and even before another strikes it against Iran, and that 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:47.280 that know how, because it's not just the tech, it's 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.840 also how you do it. This is I'm again, has 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.200 been shared with the United States. I think that might 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.119 be the decent discombobulator. But again that's just sort of 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.160 an inference on my part because i'd heard that before 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.720 the President talked about that it's a combobulator who. 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:03.840 I will be watching the Free Press this weekend for 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:07.160 updates from Eli Lake. Follow him on x at Eli Lake, 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.119 subscribe to the Free Press. He wrote a great piece 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.359 on Crown Prince Pavlabi. He also wrote a great piece 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.640 on the munitions and a great piece on the negotiations. 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.640 You on top of this, like very few people are. 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.200 And if Iran is going to go full Alamo, you'll 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:22.800 find out about it from Eli First. Thank you, Eli Lake. 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:29.600 I'll be right back America. Stay tuned. Welcome back, America. 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:33.040 I'm joined by Matt Connetty, head of Domestic Policy Studies 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:36.760 at AEI, columnists for the Wall Street Journal. Hello Matt, 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.760 and before we get into the very serious stuff that 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.439 you wrote about for the Journal on Friday, I have 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:45.000 to begin with I'm developing a new theory. Have you 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:46.040 been married a long time? 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.159 I guess it all depends on the meaning of the 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.440 word long. But yeah, we're about to. 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:56.120 Celebrate our anniversary and it will be fourteen years. 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:58.119 All right, so that's good enough. Do you remember the 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:02.720 same movies as missus, Continetti remembers. 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.239 Yes, we're of the same generation, we don't, you know, 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:13.840 Being a man and woman, we like different types of films, 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:14.320 you know. 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:15.639 So this is what I'm texting. 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.320 I tried to have her watch The Godfather with me, Hugh, 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.879 and that lasted all about forty five minutes, So you know, 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.800 vice versa. She likes the rom coms and the Hallmark Channel, 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:31.040 and of course I'm usually in another room watching a 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:32.000 live sporting event. 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.840 Well, last night I was talked into watching Nodding Hill 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.600 again for the first time in twenty seven years, and 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:42.399 the fetching missus Hewett knows the dialogue because apparently women 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.080 get fed these little clips. I'm just a girl standing 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.720 in front of Justice Boy, and I didn't remember anything 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:50.800 of it. I didn't remember horses and Hounds, which is very, 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:52.959 very fun. Do you remember anything about Notting Hill. It's 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:53.840 before you were married. 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:57.080 I know, in fact, if my wife made me watch 0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.960 Nodding Hill, it would be the first time I would 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:00.920 have seen that film. 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:04.960 There's a whole universe there that I leave to her, 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.240 and then of course she leaves all the Star Trek 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.520 movies and the die hard stuff to me. 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.199 I will just make a recommendation. You will, as a 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.600 fine writer that you are, you will like the writing 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:20.080 in notting Hill. Now I'm going to go full serious 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.920 on you. Do you think Karan is going to go 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:23.760 full Alamo? 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:28.200 Well, you know, it would be. 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:32.680 A first if it did that, If the regime did that, 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:37.439 this regime has been very cautious over the decades. I mean, 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:41.480 let's not forget when it fired rockets at Israel in 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:44.440 two thousand and four. That was the first direct attack 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:48.640 Iran had ever launched at the state of Israel since 0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:54.040 the Islamic Revolution happened in nineteen seventy nine. So then, 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.879 even after Operation Midnight Hammer in twenty twenty five, you know, 0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:02.600 the spectacular destruction of the Ranian nuclear program by US forces, 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:07.919 iron had the very performative assault on our base in 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.879 Dohak Hutter telegraphing it beforehand. 0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:12.560 There were no US casualties. 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.800 So I think for the full Alamo, you would really 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.080 have to have the Mollahs believe this is it, this 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:24.000 is do or die. They're facing extinction as a regime, 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:25.920 and I don't think we're there yet. 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.240 Well, I put this to Eli Lake, and I'll put 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.080 it to you. They murdered at least thirty thousands of 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:36.440 their citizens, which means there are hundreds of thousands of grieving, 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:40.560 revenge seeking Iranians. They already burned down a bunch of 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.520 mosques and mullah's houses. I don't think anyone from the 0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:48.160 IRGC or the molocracy is going to walk away if 0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:49.880 there is regime change, do. 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:56.880 You certainly not from the IRGC or the besiege You know, 0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.800 there of course whole political echelons that are part of this, 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:02.600 and there's the regular army, you know. 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:03.360 I think one of. 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.520 Our goals should be in order to create space between 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:11.600 the regular army and then the revolutionary cadres, the IRGC, 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:16.239 which foments terrorism abroad, and the beasiege militias, which are 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.560 kind of the enforcers of the Mulla's room at home. 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:21.879 It's a very complicated country. 0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:26.360 I mean, it's hugely populated, it's sprawling, and so whatever 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.080 happens next with the fall of this regime is going 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:30.639 to be is going to be messy. 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:33.879 I'm going to say for after the break what you 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.560 wrote in the vertical today at the Wall Street Journal, 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.200 your column for the week. Before we do that, before 0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:40.800 we go to the break and talk to me, would 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.600 you explain to people what the Free Expression vertical is 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:44.960 over at the Wall Street Journal. 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:46.639 I'm happy to. 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.439 I'm very excited too. It's a new project launched by 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:53.320 Wall Street Journal Opinion. Free Expression is a daily newsletter 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.679 that you get either over email or sub stack. You 0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:00.480 can sign up at the Wall Street Journal, and it's 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.639 a lot of stuff, topics that are usually not covered 0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:08.720 by the opinion pages, more cultural, more youthful, kind of 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.560 directed about a lot on gen Z what's up with 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.080 the kids, so to speak. And then they have you know, 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.760 the old the Old Fogy Continetti there at the end 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.040 of each week, where I weigh in on politics and 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.800 foreign policy. But it's a great mix so far, and 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:25.479 we're off to a great start and I'm very excited 0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:26.159 to be a part of it. 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.800 You know, if you're the old Fogy, Matt, that makes 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.160 me the ancient Mariner. So I'm not really into that description. 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:36.240 You're the oracle, You're the oracle of the Relief Factor studio. 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.080 I talked to the oracle of every studio this week, 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.400 brit Hume down in South Florida where he's seeking refuge 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.520 from the new Virginia government. I'm going to talk to 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.320 you about that during the break, and then come back 0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.760 after the break and talk with Matt Continetti about his 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.879 column this week and about whether or not President Trump 0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.320 is doing what he needs to do to prepare America 0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.280 for a serious battle. Stay tuned, Welcome back in America. 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.880 I'm with Matt Continetti Calm for The Wall Street Journal, 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.920 head of Domestic Policy Studies at AI. In the break 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.640 between our segments, which will be on the podcast, Matt, 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:08.639 in this break, I got to go back to the 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:10.800 Beltway on Sunday. I'm not looking forward to that because 0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.960 it's Sunday in seventy five in California, where I spend 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.439 a couple of weeks every winter, a couple of months, 0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.560 and now I got to go back to the Beltway 0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:22.119 where it's freezing, but even worse and good old Virginia. 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.400 The Democrats have taken control with a vengeance. They are 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.000 really proposing California's solutions to every problem. Is this just 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:33.480 talk or is it real? 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:36.280 I think it's real, Hugh. 0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:40.080 I think it's what happens when the one party gains 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:45.240 control of the state government, animated by this progressive reaction 0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:50.560 to Trump, as we're seeing in Virginia. The elections did 0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:55.719 not go well for Virginia Republicans last November. And on 0:28:55.800 --> 0:29:01.400 top of that, Governor Spanberger, who said practice nothing during 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.280 the campaign other than she stood with law enforcement and 0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.600 cared about kids, has revealed herself to be nothing but 0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:13.320 a signing machine for the progressive machine. And so one 0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.680 of the first things she signed into law is this 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.560 proposal to have a new congressional map, which would reduce 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:25.760 the Republican representation in Congress to two or even one seat. 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.480 And this goes from a you know, Republicans haven't won 0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.840 Virginia since two thousand and four in a presidential election, 0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.120 but they still get about forty five percent of the vote. 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.520 But of course we'd be reduced to almost nothing, no 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.320 congressional representation. 0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:42.760 That's her first priority. 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.640 Nothing about the affordability that she campaigned on. They're also 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:52.680 looking at course, joining the Blue State Climate Compact, which 0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:57.840 will mean higher energy costs for Virginian You're looking at 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:02.680 now a push to end cooperation with ICE so that 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.840 violent illegal criminals are released back onto the streets without 0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.840 having local law enforcement working with ICE to pick them 0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.880 up right there to remove them from the streets. And 0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.680 then of course there's a slew of gun regulations that 0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:22.560 Spamburger will be asked to sign and will and then 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:26.320 there're also tax increases. It's a disaster on a policy level, 0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:30.920 and it's a Native Virginia I'm just I'm torn up 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:31.480 about it. 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:37.080 It's the Californication of Virginia the commonwealth, and people left California. 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.480 They still live in California. I left California to move 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.120 to Virginia, and we could have gone anywhere. I thought 0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.800 Virginia was a nice balance between red and blue. And 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.160 at five and a half percent state taxes, it's not outrageous. 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.960 It's not Florida, it's not Tennessee, it's not Texas. But 0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.040 it's not outrageous. They want to go outrageous, Matt, do 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:59.360 you think there will be an exodus from old Virginia. 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.360 I think it's already starting, just anecdotally. You talk to 0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:08.600 people who are thinking about Tennessee, who are thinking about Florida, 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.440 North Carolina, South Carolina. West Virginia may actually be the 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:17.880 biggest beneficiary. In truth, it's still drivable, you know, don't 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.720 We don't have normal commute times in the DC area. 0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.080 So even that the two hours it would take to 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:28.160 come from West Virginia seems reasonable to us if in 0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:32.360 exchange for that commute you have a reasonable government with 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:38.160 low taxes, low less regulation, better business climate, and of 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:40.000 course more personal freedoms as well. 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.240 Okay, so I think already we've got to go on 0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:48.920 the Relief Factor Network stand by Welcome back America to 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.440 the Sale New Channel Sale and Radio Network, our affiliate 0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.800 time Hugh Hewitt with Matt Continetti AI and The Wall 0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.400 Street Journal. You missed a good discussion with Matt during 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.560 the break about politics in Virginia. It'll be on the 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.880 Big Weekend Pod. Matt. I want to read the opening 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:07.160 of your column Friday in The Wall Street Journal. Because 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.920 President Trump must choose to enforce the red lines he 0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.240 has drawn against the Iranian regime or entangle himself in 0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:17.200 pointless negotiations that legitimize the sworn enemy. He needs to 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:21.120 demand Iranian concessions as a precondition for future talks, or 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.640 be prepared to walk away. His credibility is on the line. 0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:28.240 America's deterrent and the future of the Middle East are too. 0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.360 That's how I see it. That's how everyone I talk 0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:35.000 to see it. But are we neo Khans locked in 0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.560 a neo Khan conference room, or are we Reagan Conservatives 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:40.240 who understand the value of deterns. 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.440 That's peace through strength and look, I think President Trump 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:48.520 understands this. He's drawn two red lines with Iran over 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.720 the course of the past year. The first red line 0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:57.600 is no nuclear enrichment, not pausing the enrichment, not winding 0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:01.280 it down to a certain level. No nuclear enrichment, and 0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.360 that needs to be verified. And the second red line 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.240 that he drew just in recent weeks is that there 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.600 should be no killing of protesters. There should be no 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:17.480 murder of your own population. Iran has violated both red lines. 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.840 When it violated the no enrichment red line in twenty 0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.880 twenty five, we were having negotiations like we're having now. 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:30.920 President Trump took action. Operation mid Night Hammer destroyed the 0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:35.040 Iranian nuclear program. Now that highly enriched uranium is under 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:36.880 rubble or hidden away somewhere. 0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.480 Do you the question is do you think that he 0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:44.080 would launch an attack during the Olympics or Ramadan, which 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:45.760 overlapped the Olympics. 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:54.520 I think the Olympics probably not. Ramadan is a different story. 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.720 There are many many military operations that have taken place 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.640 during the month of Ramadan. I don't think that would 0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.200 prevent Trump from launching an attack. 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.640 Okay, Now what I read is going to have to 0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:08.960 act you Okay, yes, I agree with you. Otherwise we'll 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:14.120 be back to after the Afghanistan debacle. And you can't. 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.400 You have to rebuild credibility every time you spend it 0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.040 down by letting a red line be violated, and he's 0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.719 already rebuilt it. It would be a disaster to let 0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:28.120 it go down. However, the first President Bush, before the 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.680 Golf War one, made sure the American people knew that 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.560 we might suffer more than one hundred thousand casualties. We 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:38.040 were ready for chemical weapons and everything. The second Golf 0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:41.400 War with the second President Bush, same drill. The American 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.080 people were ready for a lot of casualties, were warned, 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.000 and we were a pit in our stomach. And both 0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.000 times it was less than one hundred and fifty killed 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:53.960 in the initial invasion, and the entire desert storm eventually 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:57.000 became thousands in Iraq over years. Do you think President 0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.920 Trump has done what he needs to do with him 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.160 American people to prepare them against mash casualties in any 0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:04.640 kind of conflict with Iran. 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:10.640 He hasn't talked about mass casualties. He hasn't talked about 0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:12.759 the downsides of a potential conflict. 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.440 But we need to understand. 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:19.520 I don't think any operation against Iran would look like 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.360 either Gulf War. In both Gulf Wars, of course, we 0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:27.759 had massive armies that we assembled on the perimeter of 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:32.640 Iraq that went into battle in the First Gulf War 0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:36.399 to eject Saddam from Kuwait in the Second Gulf War 0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:40.880 to end Saddam's rule. That's not what's happening here. Hugh 0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:46.080 Trump has these two red lines, no enrichment, no killing 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.800 of protesters. Iran has violated them both. What that means 0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.880 is justice he's done in his first term, whether it 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:58.360 was Costan Solimani in his second term, Midnight Hammer or 0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.640 Operation Absolute Resolve with Maduro. 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:03.759 He has to punish the aggressors. 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:08.040 And so what I expect to happen is an attack 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:12.719 on the apparatus of repression, that is these militias and 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:18.000 the IRGC terrorists, and also an attack on the remaining 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:22.040 nuclear sites. What we know from intelligence and the missiles 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.440 right the ballistic missiles that threat. 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:24.800 In the region. 0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:30.719 That's not a ground invasion with the aim of toppling 0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:35.920 the government and occupying Iran. That's a very Trumpian attack 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:41.000 in order to coerce the regime into doing what he wants. 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.440 That's what I expect, and I think what now is 0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.200 we're waiting for the timing, and the timing has a 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.879 lot to do with the military preparations, not only for 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:54.880 the offensive, but in expectation of a potential counter attack 0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.000 by Iran and our ability to defend against it, not 0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:01.439 only our own forces, but also of course the state 0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:01.960 of Israel. 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.960 Former is really Ambassador Michael Lauren called into the program 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.640 this week twice to remind people about the HMS Sheffield 0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:14.080 in the Falklands, where the Brits Royal Navy and Argentinian 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.600 fighter jet got off an exo set that killed twenty 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:20.360 British sailors, wounded another twenty five, and sunk a destroyer 0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:24.959 before it could get towed to repair. I don't think 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.719 anyone has said anything yet about how many troops or 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.600 what our vulnerability is, and the Navy is quite confidence 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.680 of ability, but I think there ought to be a 0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:38.040 little bit of preparation, at least by the President and 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.440 others in the Department of Defense about what might happen. 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:42.719 Do you agree or disagree with that? 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.920 No, I think we need more explanation. The explanation is 0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.360 a good thing that leads to persuasion. It gets the 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:54.320 people on your side. It's not really how President Trump works. 0:37:54.840 --> 0:38:00.560 President Trump wants to work through surprise and unpredictability, and 0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.640 so he's not going to be really laying the groundwork 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.720 for any operation UH where He's going to continue his rhetoric. 0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.480 He's going to continue to say, we need something from Iran. 0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.319 They better they better obey these red lines that I've 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.799 set down or else they're going to face punishment. They're 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:21.080 going to face a reprisal. But he's not going to 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.960 get into the nitty gritty. And of course we know 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:27.800 from President Trump he does not want to risk American lives. 0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:32.080 He is very he's very understanding that the American people, 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:36.760 UH may react negatively to casualties to an operation gone wrong. 0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.720 He's rolled the dice quite a few times. Midnight Hammer, 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:44.440 we hit our target, absol Resolve, incredible, just taking Maduro 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.720 right before the vault was about to close and protect 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:52.000 him right and now he's in New York jail. What's 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.600 the the question here is what is the roll of 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.600 the dice in Iran? What is that going to look like? 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.640 And I think right now there's a lot of military 0:38:58.680 --> 0:38:59.520 planning happening. 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.080 What is the type of spectacular. 0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:05.640 Dramatic attack that will both punish the Iranian regime and 0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.680 telegraph to elements within the within the regime, and in 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:13.040 the Iranian people at large. You need to make massive 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:16.239 changes in behavior. The iotota needs to go or else 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:16.879 more will come. 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.919 I think you're over the target, Matt, and I hope 0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.319 we are as well in a readable period of time, 0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:25.320 because it can't. Let the redline be arranged. Matt Kaney, 0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.799 thank you. 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Ben, do you 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.719 agree with the general in me that it looks like 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.520 Iran is about to go full Alamo and we ought 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:04.200 to welcome that. 0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.239 Well, I think it's been a long time coming, Hugh. 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:11.399 And sorry to be a little a little tardy. I'm 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.640 that's the second time. I'm not going to keep blaming it, and. 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.920 If you have a newborn, you have you get complete. 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:24.279 There's just a handoffs that. So anyway, I think that 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.520 this is a situation where you know that the regime 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.880 has clearly been signaling that this was the direction that 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.040 it was headed for a while. And I think we've 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.960 heard that from a lot of smart commentators, including the 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:39.239 General Uh and including yourself. I think that that's just 0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:40.920 an inevitability, and at a certain point you have to 0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.279 accept that. You can't just you know, sort of. I mean, 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.480 we spent so many years living in the Obama Biden 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.200 fantasy land under you know, Ben Roads and all of 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.520 the idiots that we're running policy back. Then we have 0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:53.480 to accept for the world for as it is, and 0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:56.520 I think that this Trump administration has done a very 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:57.160 good job of. 0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:01.319 Doing that now. Ben, I think the idea that the 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.680 vice president is a restrainer is overstated. But he's in 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.319 Milan for the Olympics, and Secretary Rubio is here, and 0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.360 Lindsey Graham is channeling your late father in law every 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:15.040 minute he gets a chance to. I don't see anyone 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.680 saying go soft on Iran right now, at least not 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:18.560 on our team. 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.919 I certainly don't. And look, you know, this is something 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.839 that I've said before, and I know that JD's team 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.680 is not particularly happy when I pointed out, but he 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.359 does have a way of kind of of navigating this 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.239 where he kind of removes himself from some of these situations. 0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.439 We you know, it was obviously notable that he wasn't 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:40.120 in any of the pictures regarding you know, the Maduro raid. 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:42.520 I wasn't the only one to notice that, of course, 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.440 And I think that that is a decision that could 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.239 be one that he is making purposefully. I don't know 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.440 that it is. I'm just saying that it could be. 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.080 And I think that in this instance, you know, certainly 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.160 the Secretary of State has made clear what he thinks 0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:59.000 about this during his longtime career in the Senate, and 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.000 I don't I don't think there's going to be anybody 0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:04.400 in the room, certainly not anybody who's going to have 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.960 the president's ear on this to overwhelm a decision that 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:10.240 I think is pretty obvious in a long time coming. 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.120 So Ben, I don't fault the president for anything. The 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.520 left is trying to make him responsible for getting people 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.240 out in the streets. They were out in the streets before. 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.360 I think he was trying to deter the Iranian regime 0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.239 from doing what they did, which is murder at least 0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.719 thirty thousand people. And now I think he's got to 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:27.280 build up our forces because he can't allow American forces 0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:30.880 to be killed in great numbers, if any, you know. 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.359 And so it's going to be a while, or it's 0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:37.040 going to be as long as it takes. My question is, 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:38.960 do you think anyone has done what they need to 0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:42.720 do from the administration side to prepare the American public 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:45.400 for any casualties. I remember before. You might not be 0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.879 old enough to remember Golf War One, but we were 0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.160 expecting six figure casualties and. 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.279 No, I remember it, and somewhere I actually still have 0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.719 my notebook that I took. I used to follow it 0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:57.800 and track it as a kid. 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:01.120 So do you think that the ground work for readying 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.920 the American public for casualties, because that's why the Afghanistan 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.640 withdrawal went so badly for Team Biden. We didn't expect 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:10.480 any casualties and lost thirteen. 0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:12.600 I do not believe that they have. I do not 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.520 believe that they have. And look, the President has been 0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:19.240 and I should say It's one thing to say fortunate, 0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:22.719 but it's actually, you know, really incredible what he's been 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:26.799 able to pull off without American casualties in terms of 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.880 his approach that he's used to this point. When it 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.560 comes to our security and foreign policy around the globe, 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:36.040 you can't keep rolling those dice and expecting them to 0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:39.280 always go your way. And I think that in this instance, 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.920 very little work has been done, if at all, to 0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:46.759 show the American people one that this is something that 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:49.359 they need to understand comes with a lot more risk 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:53.960 than exultrating a you know, a corrupt, you know leader 0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:57.560 in Venezuela. A lot more risk to American lives and 0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:01.440 a lot more potential for American cat And I just 0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.840 don't think that I have not seen Republicans in particular, 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.520 who have been supportive of this policy in the past, 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.040 going out there and being willing to say that to this. 0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:13.399 Point, I tell people I've been listening to twice now 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.600 the book Empire of Terror by Mark Zelenski about the 0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:19.520 Islamic Revolutionary Guard Court. It's one hundred and fifty thousand 0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.680 fanatics and now they've got blood on their hands and 0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.200 they've got to be Iran's got to be at least 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.600 as traumatized as Israel was on ten to seven thirty 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.240 thousand people is a lot to be murdered in forty 0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:35.160 eight hours, and there won't be any amnesty for the IRGC. 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.200 If there's a regime swap, well there. 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.320 Of course no, of course not. And I think that 0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:43.840 this is a situation where they're I mean, this is 0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:48.439 going to be an existential fight. And again I don't 0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:51.120 think that this is something that you are reading that book. 0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:55.040 I've you know, certainly read plenty on this, and also 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.320 I would recommend to people if they have not listened 0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:01.359 to it Eli Lake's podcast that he did a couple 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.400 of months back, just guiding you through a kind of 0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.399 the Shah and everything that went down with the Red 0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:10.120 Green Revolution and everything associated with it. It's a good 0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:14.759 explainer packed in a small package break history. But I 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.759 think that this is incredible in terms of what we're 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.719 seeing play out in front of us. But unfortunately, the 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.360 American people, I think, really again have not had the 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.400 type of work done in a dance. People are tired 0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.680 of Middle Eastern wars that they see as pointless and 0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.399 they see as long term and risky and fully sort 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:37.160 of dragging down America's resources and leading to the loss 0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:40.000 of life. And if the President goes into this, I 0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.120 think without making a strong case for it and having 0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:44.840 his supporters stand with him on it, then that's a 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.400 very risky maneuver. But the President is, as you know, 0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:48.640 is willing to take risks. 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.600 Have you heard the argument from anyone this regime showed 0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.279 us who they are. Believe them, they will kill thirty 0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:56.920 thousand of their own people. We should expect them to 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.719 want to kill every American and every Israeli if and 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:02.080 when they can ben no'll turn to the Shoni. I 0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:03.399 haven't heard that argument yet. 0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:06.359 No, I haven't, and that's certainly not you know, from 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.520 the people who matter in this and who I think 0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.080 folks need to listen to. And look, a lot of 0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.000 that I think is distraction and reluctance to be the 0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.120 first one out of the gate to say this. But 0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:18.680 if the President has made clear and look, this is 0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:22.680 a long standing Republican policy and not just of hawks 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.440 that you know, we know the effect of Iran around 0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:28.920 the world. We know the hinge point that it represents 0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:32.640 with other world powers. We know what in Iran that 0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:36.440 looked different today that looked more like what it's people 0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:40.239 actually want it to be would mean potentially for the 0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:42.480 region and for and for people around the world. And 0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.800 they are at their weakest point as a regime that 0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.359 they have been in my lifetime. And so it's one 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:50.680 of these situations where, unfortunately, I think that lack of education, 0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:52.719 that lack of making the case for something before you 0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.399 do it, is something that could come back to bite 0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:57.879 the president if things do not go well. 0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.719 You had a notebook on the first Iraq War. 0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.920 Yes, so that was actually I was home school, Hugh, 0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.879 and so that was an assignment. We tracked it. I 0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.080 you know what. We would watch the nightly news, we 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.520 would watch Peter Jennings, we would pay attention to the 0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.520 updates and read the Washington Post back when it was 0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:18.080 a good paper. 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.640 We're going to talk about that during the break because 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.200 that we have to. But I'm just I'm just very 0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:27.680 happy that someone can remember nineteen ninety one. Besides Britt 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:28.960 Hume and I were talking about it. 0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.840 It was just like right there on page one. 0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:35.080 You weren't around though for the first Iranian Revolution, right, 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:36.680 You weren't there in seventy eight and seventy nine, So 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:37.239 you can't. 0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:37.640 It was not. 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:39.640 Yeah, Britt Hume and I were doing memory Lane on 0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:41.920 that this week. Don't Go Anywhere, America. I'll be right 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:43.800 back with Ben Dominic during the break, which will be 0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.200 on the Big Weekend Pod as well, and then he'll 0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:47.920 be back. I got to do my quiz with him 0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.560 that I gave him that continenty early as well. Don't 0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:53.680 Go Anywhere. Stay tuned on Super Bowl Weekend on Due Gowett. 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:56.440 The HU huge show coming to you from the Relief 0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.760 Actor Studio is brought to you by Reliefactor dot Com. 0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:03.520 I'm back with Ben Dominic. Ben. It's my policy never 0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.640 to talk about someone for whom i've worked, So I 0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.960 worked for the Washington Post for a decade or eight years, 0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:10.960 I can't remember. I read a lot of columns for him, 0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:14.279 and I'm not gonna say anything at all about them. 0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:17.440 But what you said about the sports section at the 0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.600 end of the Big Ben Pod is objective. If you 0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.160 don't have a sports section, you're not trying to sell 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:24.960 newspapers to Americans, are you. 0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:27.880 No? No, And look, this is what people care about 0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:30.120 when they go to their newspaper. And it's also, by 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:33.279 the way, the thing that sparks debate that sparks. You 0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:35.880 know that you would have situations where someone write a 0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:39.040 column and you debate it on local sports talk radio, 0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:42.680 You argue about it in the local bars. You go 0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:45.080 back and forth on who's right about the you know, 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.040 the team or the player or what you know, the 0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.279 way things are going, what needs to happen, who needs 0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:51.440 to be fired. And that's the kind of thing that 0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:56.680 makes for a community and actually a unifying element within 0:49:56.760 --> 0:50:00.480 that community where you have people with very different political beliefs. 0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:02.799 I mean I was talking to, you know, a friend 0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:06.280 across across the way, Uh, just this just today about 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:10.520 Sonny Jurgensen and uh tweet him and everything else like that. 0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.200 Yeah, I mean auto versus. 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:18.040 Yeah, quite quite a different pairing. Auto put Sonny on 0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:20.920 a lettuce diet, by the way, that was what sparked 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:23.640 that common But the but the you know, the truth is, 0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.640 I know, for a fact he's just a neighborhood friend, 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:29.759 uh that I see occasionally at a restaurant, and he 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.600 I know that he has complete opposite politics than me. 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.360 He's about ten years older than me. You know, Washington 0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:39.520 bureaucrat lived in the place forever. We all we both 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.239 love the same teams, and so we both care when 0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:44.600 someone like Sonny Jurgenson dies, and it would be great 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.040 to have a sports section that has someone who could 0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:49.920 write about how great he was as opposed to what 0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.239 you know, Today's Washington Post would probably go through all 0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:55.719 the problematic things that Sonny Jurgens. 0:50:55.920 --> 0:51:00.280 Is Billy kill alive from the great QB controversy. 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:03.360 Of twenty Not only is he still alive, I just 0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.719 heard him doing an interview, uh this afternoon on local 0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:11.600 sports talk radio and he actually had uh had lunch 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.120 with Sonny. He said, just a couple of weeks ago. 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:17.200 Well, but Mickey Lolich died this week, like people I 0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:19.319 grew up with are dying this week. But but the 0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.279 Billy Kilmer, Sonny Jergens, I'm a Cleveland dot com guy. 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.839 I spend lots of money on Cleveland dot Com. I 0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:29.560 can't imagine the Post not having like five pages on Sunday. 0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:32.960 This is And you know, of course the problem with 0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:36.279 that as well is that no no media entity was 0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:40.000 a bigger cheerleader against the Redskins name than the Washington Post, 0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:44.040 which made millions, you know, sold millions of newspapers on 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.279 the bandwagon with Tony Kornheiser on the ninety one team. 0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:49.479 You know that that made so much money because people 0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:53.040 wanted to read their coverage of their favorite team, and unfortunately, 0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:54.880 it just got to a point where, look, there was 0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:59.040 glowing coverage. You will not find a negative article about 0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:02.480 uh may Can rap Ito in the Washington Post, Okay, 0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:06.600 but you will find more criticism of that name uh, 0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.120 you know, and more pushes to change it. And finally, 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:11.239 when you know, in the wake of George Floyd, they 0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:13.440 finally were able to do it. And look, whatever you 0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:16.600 think about that, it's just that it just speaks to 0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.640 the fact that this was a newspaper that became entirely 0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:23.600 possessed of politics. In every section. You know, the people 0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:25.800 were handing around the article rows. 0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:27.719 But that's all I'm gonna say about the Post. I'm 0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:29.239 going to come back with Ben on the other side, 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:36.120 give him my test. Stay tuned in America, Welcome back 0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.400 to America. I'm here here with Ben Dominicch, host of 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:40.719 the Big Ben Podcast, which is raw a being good 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:43.800 fun this week because it talks a lot about gambling 0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:45.439 and stuff I didn't know about it, and I learned 0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:47.200 a lot from it this week, So I would encourage 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:50.239 you to go and listen to it before I go there, Ben, though, 0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:51.879 I want to run my test. Have you ever heard 0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:54.200 of the screenwriter Richard Curtis. 0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:56.640 That does ring a bell? 0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:58.680 He wrote, He's the King of the wrong Coms? Right? 0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:00.839 He wrote Four Weddings and Funeral Love. 0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.399 Actually funeral is what I was thinking, yes, Nodding Hill. 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:06.680 So last night I was sucking into watching Nodding Hill 0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:09.279 again by my wonderful wife of forty four years. I 0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:11.160 haven't seen it in twenty seven years. So how long 0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:11.840 have you been married? 0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:15.879 I'm well at sixty. I think about things in terms 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.320 of when I met my wife. We are eight years 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:20.759 this we will be eight years this year. 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:22.600 So you don't have a chance yet to forget any 0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:25.680 movies that you saw together. And so I didn't remember anything. 0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:29.480 But my theory is now that women remember every line 0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:31.960 and scene in a rom com and men. Don't you 0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:32.560 agree with me? 0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:36.040 Oh no, I have to disagree with you. And the 0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:38.960 reason is, well, wait a minute, okay, I think it 0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:41.440 depends on your definition of romantic comedy. 0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:44.840 Well, Nodding Hill Love, actually four weddings at a funeral? 0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:45.560 They're like all. 0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:49.160 Rom coms I know, But I think my wife is 0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:51.960 a bit more of like a Princess Bride era kind 0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:55.840 of person of something like that is more in her speed, 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:58.840 like the thing that is. I mean, you have to 0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:00.680 keep in mind you're talking to someone from like the 0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:02.000 American pie generation. 0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:03.279 Yeah, comedy. 0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:05.719 The things that we actually quote back and forth to 0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.919 each other most of the time are usually stuffed from 0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:09.959 like Destin show. 0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:12.600 Now, and I took my boys to see Team America 0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:14.640 when I thought it was actually a fun movie, and 0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:16.600 I was I'm still having that down. 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:19.960 But badness, it's a fun movie. 0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:21.799 It was a fun movie, but it wasn't for them 0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:22.560 at that age. 0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:25.480 It was I think, I think that what you're you're 0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:29.240 you're unfortunately speaking to someone who's whose wife's favorite genre 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:32.480 is horror films. Oh, exactly the same thing. 0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:34.480 All right. Now, let me go to the gambling. I 0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:38.280 had no idea not and you know, the the Guardians 0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:41.680 of Lost class a forever he gambled. Apparently, it's alleged 0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:44.760 forty eight different games over a couple of seasons. Luis 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:46.880 Ortiza out of the game now too, so that the 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:50.360 Guardians Indians have been crushed by this. Now I find 0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:53.600 out you could have made. It's not a prop bet. Really, 0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:55.520 I don't even know how you described that market on 0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.960 what someone's going to say on the Colbert Show that's nuts. 0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:02.160 Yeah. So this these prediction markets have gotten more attention 0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:06.000 because obviously they advertise a ton calshee and and people 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:08.319 have probably seen you know, stuff about poly market on 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.520 you know online. Yeah, And the prediction markets that usually 0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:14.680 get talked about are ones that are about significant events. 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.919 You know, they're they're you know, what is the fed 0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:19.239 rate gonna be? There's you know, I literally heard an 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:21.440 ad for something you know on the way over that 0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:23.319 was about you know, you know, do you want to 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.400 pick for I can't remember which one of them, but 0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:28.120 do you want to predict the the Academy Award for 0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:30.600 the next you know, Oscar winner, that kind of thing. 0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:32.960 But what people don't talk about in this is that 0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:37.279 they're so unregulated that in the instance of that Chris 0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:41.040 Hayes of MMS I guess it's MS now now it 0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:44.280 talked about he was there was a market for something 0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:47.840 he had already done. He had done the Colbert Show, 0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:51.440 which they tape typically at around five o'clock, and then 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:53.880 there was a market that had opened about things that 0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:56.560 he would say on the program, which creates a horrible 0:55:56.680 --> 0:56:00.520 situation where you're predicting something that has already happened, and 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.880 that stuff is perfectly okay according to these prediction markets, 0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:07.200 which by the way, California does not allow sports gambling. 0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:09.440 But you will be able if you are in the stands, 0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:11.759 you know, in San Francisco for the Super Bowl, you 0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:14.640 could you could, you know, do the kind of prediction 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:18.320 market play that is a swap or a contract considered 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:20.759 different from a sports gambling that doesn't have to go 0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:23.080 through a sports book. And I think that that's a 0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:26.319 real problem, and I think the Congress is waking up 0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:28.440 to it. But it's there's a lot of people who are, 0:56:28.480 --> 0:56:30.040 I think, blowing a lot of money on me. 0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:32.640 So what what that raised for me? After I listened 0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:35.160 to it With the backgrounds of the Guardian, players being 0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:39.160 banned from baseball effectively for the rest of their careers, 0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:42.319 whether or not they're convicted. I don't know. Do you 0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:46.759 think baseball has the regulatory structure or the NBA or 0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:51.880 anyone to stop prediction market gambling by players versus gambling gambling. 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.520 I think that they do not, especially because the and 0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:57.160 I didn't really get into this on the show, but 0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.600 I think you're catching on to something there, which is 0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:02.320 that the adiction markets are technically you know, they're governed 0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:05.799 by the FEDS. They're governed under the CFTC, and they 0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:09.200 do not have the kind of state regulations and things 0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:12.440 like that. And they also, you know, obviously are involving 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.840 contracts and swaps that are considered different than you know, 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:20.000 legally than sports gambling, even though if you look at 0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:24.240 the actual makeup of their markets, the majority nearly the majority, 0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:27.959 I should say, the vast plurality, I should say, of 0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:30.640 these prediction markets. The money that is moving around is 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:33.800 about sports, so it's just a substitute for sports gambling 0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.000 in states that haven't allowed it. 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:37.080 I think the commissioners have got to wake up to this, 0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:38.920 which brings me a course to the Super Bowl. In 0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:41.760 my last guest that I can ask this, I'm going 0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:44.520 to be flying, which is very good because I'm torn. 0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:47.080 Mike Rabel's an Ohio state guy. But I can't imagine 0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:49.240 having to live with the Patriots fans during the summer 0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:51.560 if they win another ring. And I don't care about 0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:53.880 the Seahawks, so I'm not going to care about anything 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:57.680 except what the reaction to Bad Bunny is going to be. 0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:02.480 What has Roger Goodell made a momentous error or is 0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:04.959 it in fact something that will be forgotten by next week. 0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:08.800 I think this is an error, but I also think 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:11.080 it's gonna be something that's forgotten by next week because 0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:13.600 I think one thing that Bad Bunny is is he's 0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:17.360 actually not that bad. He's pretty corporate and the bad 0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:20.280 in the in the you know, likely the buck sort 0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.880 of the the expectations of the most powerful sports league 0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:26.280 in America. I don't think that's gonna happen, and I 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:29.720 think that that's going to be something that probably, you know, 0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:32.160 some leftist guts get worked up about, who want him to, 0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:35.240 you know, show up and have some anti ice display 0:58:35.360 --> 0:58:38.240 or something like that. It's possible that he does that, 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:40.960 but I think on a certain level, if you do that, 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.560 then that's a toxic moment that will follow you the 0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:46.480 rest of your career and eliminates the whole bunch of people. 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:49.120 And again, Republicans buy shoes too, So it's one of 0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:52.480 these things that I think ultimately will probably be forgotten. 0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:55.360 As for the game, I just have to say, can 0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:59.040 we can we just applaud Sam Darnolds. Yeah, the guy 0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:02.760 just such a rough career, got chewed up in New York, 0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:08.000 blamed for everything, cast off by everybody in can Vikings. 0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:10.640 Let him go yea yeah, and he's in the super 0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:12.640 Bowl now. I got to get a word from you though. 0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:15.880 On Mahea and Malanowski in New Jersey. I was on 0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:19.640 Fox today talking about Maheah. I think Apak sent a message, 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.000 which is you can't be on the fence about Israel. 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:25.080 To mister Malanowski and every other Democrat. You can. You 0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:27.320 might be a far left wacko and hate Israel, but 0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:28.560 you can't be on the fence. 0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:30.520 What do you think, Ben, I think I think that 0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:33.000 they did. And I think the part of that is, 0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:35.680 you know, the assumption, uh, you know what is what 0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:38.160 is the what is the line from uh one of 0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:40.720 Paul's epistles? You know, because you were neither hot nor cold? 0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:42.640 I hask you out of my mouth. You know. 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.280 I think that's actually revelation, isn't it. 0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:49.000 It's I think I thought it was Lilly Pizzles. But 0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:50.760 it's one of the things that I think is is 0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:55.680 true of this nature now for apac which says we 0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:59.400 are not going to tolerate this type of wavering neutrality 0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:02.240 because we're gonn assume that you're going to be you know, 1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:03.960 at the whim of the trends. We need to know 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:04.640 where you stand. 1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:07.800 I think that's where it was, and I think message 1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:11.640 received for every Democrat. Ben Dominich, back to parenting. I 1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:13.880 have a great weekend. Enjoyed the Super Bowl as much 1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:17.240 as as possible with a baby in two toddlers and 1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:18.280 enjoy I got. 1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:19.720 A permission to go to a party. To you, it's 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:20.360 a big deal. 1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:23.480 You're going to a party. Yes with toddlers? 1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:27.400 No, No, myself. Good evening off? 1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:31.920 Oh you gotta coupon you won. I salute your wife. 1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:34.920 That's amazing. Thank you, Ben for joining us. We'll talkt 1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:37.400 you again next week. Don't go anywhere America. Coming back, 1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:39.200 I'm gonna talk a little bit more about this New 1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:44.200 Jersey primary after the break. Oh, I thought we were 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:48.120 because we threw up the picture of something other. But 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:51.440 here's the deal coming up after the break. There's a 1:00:51.520 --> 1:00:54.680 runoff in New Jersey a primary New Jersey last night. 1:00:55.000 --> 1:00:57.400 There are two candidates who are within six hundred five 1:00:57.440 --> 1:01:00.760 hundred both to each other. In Mahea and fellow, and 1:01:00.840 --> 1:01:03.520 I will talk to you about her and him after 1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:05.800 the break, as I did this morning on Fox. 1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:06.200 They can