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Speaker 1: to the Big Weekend Pod. And what a week it was.

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Speaker 1: I have talked about pretty much everything, at least a

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Speaker 1: little bit during the week, but I would guess out

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Speaker 1: of the seventy five segments that make up every week

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Speaker 1: of the U Hewitt Show, I devoted sixty at least

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Speaker 1: to the fact that we're on the verge of a

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Speaker 1: major battle with Iran, one that could be quite dangerous

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Speaker 1: to American troops, soldiers, sailors, airman all throughout the region,

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Speaker 1: could be very dangerous to Israel, to our allies. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: President Trump is surging all sorts of force into the region.

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Speaker 1: The second aircraft carrier is not going as we thought

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. By Friday morning, we were sure that George H. W.

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Speaker 1: Bush was not being dispatched. It's one carrier group, bunches

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Speaker 1: of destroyers, lots of Aegis class cruisers, They have air

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Speaker 1: defense systems, they have knockdown missiles. I don't really want

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Speaker 1: to try to see how great the missile defense is.

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Speaker 1: That's not why we're doing this. I think President Trump

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Speaker 1: is doing this because he has a red line and

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Speaker 1: he can't walk it back, and he doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: walk it back. If he does, he'll be in the

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Speaker 1: same position as President's Biden and Obama. If you draw

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Speaker 1: a red line, you got to enforce it. I think

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump will enforce it. But I believe he's going

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Speaker 1: to make sure that the risk two American troops allies,

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Speaker 1: especially Israel, is not any higher than it has to be,

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Speaker 1: and there's always risk, as Ambassador Michael urn for Israeli

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Speaker 1: Ambassador the United States noted on Thursday's program, the Sheffield

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two was a Royal Navy HMS Sheffield destroyer

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Speaker 1: and it was in part of the armada that went

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Speaker 1: the Sheffield eventually sunk. Even though it didn't sink immediately,

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Speaker 1: real risk. There is real danger to your prayers for

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Speaker 1: the members of the military in there. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know that we can go backwards. And certainly the West

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Speaker 1: has a moral authority to say you may not slaughter

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Speaker 1: turn away. But preparing to do it as safely and

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Speaker 1: as quickly as possible makes a lot of sense. Negotiations

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Speaker 1: broke down on Friday. The Iranians are saying they didn't

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Speaker 1: They say it's only the nuclear art so but they

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Speaker 1: have no nuclear program. It was obliterated by President Trump.

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Speaker 1: So I'm hoping, really hoping that by the end of

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Speaker 1: this half year, by the end of June, the Islamic

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Speaker 1: So that's mostly what I talked about. Today with all

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Speaker 1: of our regular guests for the weekend review show, Matt Knee,

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Speaker 1: Ben Dominic, Eli Lake, of course John Ellis from News Items,

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Speaker 1: so enjoy, sit back and catch up on whatever you

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Speaker 1: may have missed concerning our looming battle with Iran's America.

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Speaker 1: Good weekend pod to you all. Good weekend broadcast to

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Speaker 1: you all. I'm beginning the weekend review as I do

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Speaker 1: every weekend with John Ellis, editor in chief and founder

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Speaker 1: of News Items, the one newsletter you need every morning

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Speaker 1: to cover the waterfront. Hello John, good weekend to you.

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Speaker 1: I hope you were going to enjoy the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I pray You're not a New England fan.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm a Denver Broncos fan. So I'm disappointed

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Speaker 2: by last week or two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I can handle another Patriots when John,

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Speaker 1: at this hour, the Dow Jones industrial averages crossed the

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Speaker 1: first time about fifty thousand. That's after a terrible week,

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Speaker 1: kind of I think your word with steady ish, what

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Speaker 2: Well, the markets had a skittish week. Obviously, this week

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Speaker 2: yet again the narrative that there's a huge AI bubble

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Speaker 2: also a revolution that's taking place, and so if you

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Speaker 1: Amazon's David Bonson explained to me sometime ago that when

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Speaker 1: the dot com bubble blew up in two thousand, didn't

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Speaker 1: you think that's going to be the model here, that

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Speaker 2: We'd be huge consolidation in the same way that there's

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Speaker 2: huge consolidation in the entertainment industry right now, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Rupert sold Fox News entertainment assets to Disney. You know

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Speaker 2: big tech company? I mean, eventually you know, twelve companies

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Speaker 2: that's likely to happen in the AR space because you know,

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Speaker 1: It's just not going to happen. Yeah, I've been meaning

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Speaker 1: I've never met Rupert Murdoch. I've never talked to him,

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Speaker 1: but it sure does seem to me over many decades

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Speaker 2: Oh, there are a lot of great investors, but Rupert,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at what he did with Fox News.

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Speaker 2: People forget that Fox News lost money for ten years

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Speaker 2: at the beginning. Rupert had to pay the cable companies

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Speaker 2: three million subscribers to cable vision, and Rupert had a

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Speaker 2: And he wasn't on channel four, channel seven of the system.

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Speaker 1: Visionary is a word I don't use often, but that

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Speaker 1: was visionary. Let me talk to you about what I

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Speaker 1: think is a visionary story. You sent me out of China.

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Speaker 1: They're no longer going to award well, they're not going

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Speaker 1: to stop awarding PhDs for research, but they're going to

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Speaker 1: start awarding them for actual breakthroughs and invention. I think

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Speaker 1: that's brilliant. Where did you learn about that?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: I read about it in one of the you know

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Speaker 2: it practical PhDs, right, so instead of you know, getting

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Speaker 2: there would be huge take up on that, and I

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Speaker 2: think it would lead to an explosion of innovations.

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Speaker 1: So it's a great idea. Machine copy it. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to story number three bad news and maybe two grim

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Speaker 1: you put it. Al Qaeda has a network of affiliates

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Speaker 1: and they together have more than fifty times the number

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Speaker 1: kind of exponential growth we don't need to see. John Ellis, Yes,

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's a ticking time bomb.

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Speaker 1: It is, especially when you compare it with your fourth story.

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Speaker 1: The United States economy is not prepared to scale on

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Speaker 1: defense related things like munitions, and China has already scaled.

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Speaker 1: If al Qaeda is growing exponentially and China's growing It's navy,

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Speaker 1: for example, by leaps and bounds every month, producing more

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Speaker 1: it take for us to actually get back in the game,

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Speaker 1: do you think?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've covered this story of We think one

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Speaker 2: of the major stories of our time is the force

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Speaker 2: And so it's a huge challenge for a Secretary accept

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Speaker 1: I recommend everyone read Arthur Hermann's Freedom Fortune and what

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Speaker 1: John Ellis follow him on Exit Ellis Items. Find news

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Speaker 1: thank you for your weekly contribution. John. I'll be right

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Speaker 1: back America. Eli Laynett on the UK. Chack Borger Back America.

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Speaker 1: I'm Eli lake Is with the Free Press. He's also

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Speaker 1: the host of the Breaking History podcast there as well

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Speaker 1: as a contributor. I've been following the story about our

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Speaker 1: There will not be a coalition of amnesty granting people

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Speaker 1: I will be watching the Free Press this weekend for

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Speaker 1: updates from Eli Lake. Follow him on x at Eli Lake,

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Speaker 1: subscribe to the Free Press. He wrote a great piece

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Speaker 1: All right, so that's good enough. Do you remember the

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Speaker 1: Well, last night I was talked into watching Nodding Hill

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Speaker 1: I will just make a recommendation. You will, as a

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Speaker 1: fine writer that you are, you will like the writing

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Speaker 1: in notting Hill. Now I'm going to go full serious

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Speaker 1: on you. Do you think Karan is going to go

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Speaker 1: full Alamo?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it would be.

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Speaker 6: A first if it did that, If the regime did that,

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Speaker 6: this regime has been very cautious over the decades. I mean,

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Speaker 6: let's not forget when it fired rockets at Israel in

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Speaker 6: two thousand and four. That was the first direct attack

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Speaker 6: Iran had ever launched at the state of Israel since

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Speaker 6: the Islamic Revolution happened in nineteen seventy nine. So then,

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Speaker 6: even after Operation Midnight Hammer in twenty twenty five, you know,

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Speaker 6: the spectacular destruction of the Ranian nuclear program by US forces,

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Speaker 6: Dohak Hutter telegraphing it beforehand.

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Speaker 5: There were no US casualties.

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Speaker 6: So I think for the full Alamo, you would really

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Speaker 6: have to have the Mollahs believe this is it, this

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Speaker 6: is do or die. They're facing extinction as a regime,

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Speaker 6: and I don't think we're there yet.

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Speaker 1: Well, I put this to Eli Lake, and I'll put

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Speaker 1: it to you. They murdered at least thirty thousands of

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Speaker 1: revenge seeking Iranians. They already burned down a bunch of

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Speaker 1: mosques and mullah's houses. I don't think anyone from the

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Speaker 1: IRGC or the molocracy is going to walk away if

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Speaker 6: You certainly not from the IRGC or the besiege You know,

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Speaker 6: there of course whole political echelons that are part of this,

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Speaker 6: and there's the regular army, you know.

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Speaker 5: I think one of.

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Speaker 6: Our goals should be in order to create space between

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Speaker 6: the regular army and then the revolutionary cadres, the IRGC,

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Speaker 6: which foments terrorism abroad, and the beasiege militias, which are

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Speaker 6: kind of the enforcers of the Mulla's room at home.

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Speaker 5: It's a very complicated country.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's hugely populated, it's sprawling, and so whatever

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say for after the break what you

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Speaker 1: wrote in the vertical today at the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: your column for the week. Before we do that, before

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Speaker 1: you explain to people what the Free Expression vertical is

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Speaker 1: over at the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to.

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Speaker 6: I'm very excited too. It's a new project launched by

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Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal Opinion. Free Expression is a daily newsletter

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Speaker 6: that you get either over email or sub stack. You

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Speaker 6: can sign up at the Wall Street Journal, and it's

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Speaker 6: a lot of stuff, topics that are usually not covered

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Speaker 6: by the opinion pages, more cultural, more youthful, kind of

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Speaker 6: directed about a lot on gen Z what's up with

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Speaker 6: the kids, so to speak. And then they have you know,

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Speaker 6: the old the Old Fogy Continetti there at the end

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Speaker 6: of each week, where I weigh in on politics and

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Speaker 6: foreign policy. But it's a great mix so far, and

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Speaker 6: we're off to a great start and I'm very excited

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Speaker 6: to be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're the old Fogy, Matt, that makes

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Speaker 1: me the ancient Mariner. So I'm not really into that description.

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Speaker 6: You're the oracle, You're the oracle of the Relief Factor studio.

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Speaker 1: I talked to the oracle of every studio this week,

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Speaker 1: brit Hume down in South Florida where he's seeking refuge

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Speaker 1: from the new Virginia government. I'm going to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about that during the break, and then come back

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Speaker 1: after the break and talk with Matt Continetti about his

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Speaker 1: column this week and about whether or not President Trump

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Speaker 1: is doing what he needs to do to prepare America

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Speaker 1: for a serious battle. Stay tuned, Welcome back in America.

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Speaker 1: I'm with Matt Continetti Calm for The Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: head of Domestic Policy Studies at AI. In the break

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Speaker 1: between our segments, which will be on the podcast, Matt,

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Speaker 1: in this break, I got to go back to the

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Speaker 1: Beltway on Sunday. I'm not looking forward to that because

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Speaker 1: it's Sunday in seventy five in California, where I spend

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks every winter, a couple of months,

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Speaker 1: and now I got to go back to the Beltway

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Speaker 1: where it's freezing, but even worse and good old Virginia.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats have taken control with a vengeance. They are

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Speaker 1: really proposing California's solutions to every problem. Is this just

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Speaker 1: talk or is it real?

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Speaker 5: I think it's real, Hugh.

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Speaker 6: I think it's what happens when the one party gains

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Speaker 6: control of the state government, animated by this progressive reaction

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Speaker 6: to Trump, as we're seeing in Virginia. The elections did

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Speaker 6: not go well for Virginia Republicans last November. And on

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Speaker 6: top of that, Governor Spanberger, who said practice nothing during

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Speaker 6: the campaign other than she stood with law enforcement and

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Speaker 6: cared about kids, has revealed herself to be nothing but

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Speaker 6: a signing machine for the progressive machine. And so one

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Speaker 6: of the first things she signed into law is this

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Speaker 6: proposal to have a new congressional map, which would reduce

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Speaker 6: the Republican representation in Congress to two or even one seat.

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Speaker 6: And this goes from a you know, Republicans haven't won

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Speaker 6: but they still get about forty five percent of the vote.

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Speaker 6: But of course we'd be reduced to almost nothing, no

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Speaker 6: congressional representation.

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Speaker 5: That's her first priority.

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Speaker 6: Nothing about the affordability that she campaigned on. They're also

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Speaker 6: looking at course, joining the Blue State Climate Compact, which

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Speaker 6: will mean higher energy costs for Virginian You're looking at

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Speaker 6: now a push to end cooperation with ICE so that

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Speaker 6: having local law enforcement working with ICE to pick them

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Speaker 6: up right there to remove them from the streets. And

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Speaker 6: then of course there's a slew of gun regulations that

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Speaker 6: Spamburger will be asked to sign and will and then

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Speaker 6: there're also tax increases. It's a disaster on a policy level,

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Speaker 6: and it's a Native Virginia I'm just I'm torn up

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Speaker 6: about it.

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Speaker 1: It's the Californication of Virginia the commonwealth, and people left California.

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Speaker 1: They still live in California. I left California to move

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Speaker 1: to Virginia, and we could have gone anywhere. I thought

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Speaker 1: at five and a half percent state taxes, it's not outrageous.

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Speaker 1: It's not Florida, it's not Tennessee, it's not Texas. But

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Speaker 1: it's not outrageous. They want to go outrageous, Matt, do

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Speaker 1: you think there will be an exodus from old Virginia.

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Speaker 6: I think it's already starting, just anecdotally. You talk to

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Speaker 6: people who are thinking about Tennessee, who are thinking about Florida,

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Speaker 6: North Carolina, South Carolina. West Virginia may actually be the

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Speaker 6: biggest beneficiary. In truth, it's still drivable, you know, don't

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Speaker 6: We don't have normal commute times in the DC area.

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Speaker 6: So even that the two hours it would take to

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Speaker 6: exchange for that commute you have a reasonable government with

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I think already we've got to go on

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Speaker 1: the Relief Factor Network stand by Welcome back America to

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Speaker 1: the Sale New Channel Sale and Radio Network, our affiliate

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Speaker 1: time Hugh Hewitt with Matt Continetti AI and The Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal. You missed a good discussion with Matt during

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Speaker 1: the break about politics in Virginia. It'll be on the

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Speaker 1: Big Weekend Pod. Matt. I want to read the opening

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Speaker 1: of your column Friday in The Wall Street Journal. Because

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Speaker 1: President Trump must choose to enforce the red lines he

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Speaker 1: has drawn against the Iranian regime or entangle himself in

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Speaker 1: pointless negotiations that legitimize the sworn enemy. He needs to

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Speaker 1: demand Iranian concessions as a precondition for future talks, or

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Speaker 1: be prepared to walk away. His credibility is on the line.

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Speaker 1: America's deterrent and the future of the Middle East are too.

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Speaker 1: That's how I see it. That's how everyone I talk

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Speaker 1: to see it. But are we neo Khans locked in

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Speaker 1: a neo Khan conference room, or are we Reagan Conservatives

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Speaker 1: who understand the value of deterns.

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Speaker 6: That's peace through strength and look, I think President Trump

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Speaker 6: understands this. He's drawn two red lines with Iran over

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Speaker 6: the course of the past year. The first red line

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Speaker 6: is no nuclear enrichment, not pausing the enrichment, not winding

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Speaker 6: it down to a certain level. No nuclear enrichment, and

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Speaker 6: that needs to be verified. And the second red line

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Speaker 6: should be no killing of protesters. There should be no

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Speaker 6: murder of your own population. Iran has violated both red lines.

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Speaker 6: When it violated the no enrichment red line in twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty five, we were having negotiations like we're having now.

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Speaker 6: President Trump took action. Operation mid Night Hammer destroyed the

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Speaker 6: Iranian nuclear program. Now that highly enriched uranium is under

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Speaker 6: rubble or hidden away somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Do you the question is do you think that he

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Speaker 1: would launch an attack during the Olympics or Ramadan, which

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Speaker 1: overlapped the Olympics.

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Speaker 6: I think the Olympics probably not. Ramadan is a different story.

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Speaker 6: There are many many military operations that have taken place

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Speaker 6: during the month of Ramadan. I don't think that would

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Speaker 6: prevent Trump from launching an attack.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now what I read is going to have to

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Speaker 1: act you Okay, yes, I agree with you. Otherwise we'll

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Speaker 1: be back to after the Afghanistan debacle. And you can't.

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Speaker 1: You have to rebuild credibility every time you spend it

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Speaker 1: down by letting a red line be violated, and he's

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Speaker 1: already rebuilt it. It would be a disaster to let

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Speaker 1: it go down. However, the first President Bush, before the

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Speaker 1: Golf War one, made sure the American people knew that

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Speaker 1: we might suffer more than one hundred thousand casualties. We

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Speaker 1: were ready for chemical weapons and everything. The second Golf

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Speaker 1: War with the second President Bush, same drill. The American

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Speaker 1: people were ready for a lot of casualties, were warned,

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Speaker 1: and we were a pit in our stomach. And both

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Speaker 1: times it was less than one hundred and fifty killed

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Speaker 1: in the initial invasion, and the entire desert storm eventually

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Speaker 1: became thousands in Iraq over years. Do you think President

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Speaker 1: Trump has done what he needs to do with him

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Speaker 1: American people to prepare them against mash casualties in any

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Speaker 6: He hasn't talked about mass casualties. He hasn't talked about

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Speaker 6: the downsides of a potential conflict.

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Speaker 5: But we need to understand.

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Speaker 6: I don't think any operation against Iran would look like

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Speaker 6: either Gulf War. In both Gulf Wars, of course, we

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Speaker 6: Iraq that went into battle in the First Gulf War

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Speaker 6: to eject Saddam from Kuwait in the Second Gulf War

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Speaker 6: to end Saddam's rule. That's not what's happening here. Hugh

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Speaker 6: Trump has these two red lines, no enrichment, no killing

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Speaker 6: of protesters. Iran has violated them both. What that means

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Speaker 6: is justice he's done in his first term, whether it

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Speaker 6: was Costan Solimani in his second term, Midnight Hammer or

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Speaker 6: Operation Absolute Resolve with Maduro.

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Speaker 5: He has to punish the aggressors.

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Speaker 6: And so what I expect to happen is an attack

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Speaker 6: on the apparatus of repression, that is these militias and

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Speaker 6: the IRGC terrorists, and also an attack on the remaining

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Speaker 6: nuclear sites. What we know from intelligence and the missiles

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Speaker 6: right the ballistic missiles that threat.

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Speaker 5: In the region.

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Speaker 6: That's not a ground invasion with the aim of toppling

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Speaker 6: the government and occupying Iran. That's a very Trumpian attack

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Speaker 6: in order to coerce the regime into doing what he wants.

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Speaker 6: That's what I expect, and I think what now is

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Speaker 6: we're waiting for the timing, and the timing has a

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Speaker 6: lot to do with the military preparations, not only for

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Speaker 6: the offensive, but in expectation of a potential counter attack

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Speaker 6: by Iran and our ability to defend against it, not

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Speaker 6: only our own forces, but also of course the state

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Speaker 6: of Israel.

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Speaker 1: Former is really Ambassador Michael Lauren called into the program

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Speaker 1: this week twice to remind people about the HMS Sheffield

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Speaker 1: in the Falklands, where the Brits Royal Navy and Argentinian

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Speaker 1: fighter jet got off an exo set that killed twenty

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Speaker 1: British sailors, wounded another twenty five, and sunk a destroyer

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Speaker 1: before it could get towed to repair. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone has said anything yet about how many troops or

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Speaker 1: what our vulnerability is, and the Navy is quite confidence

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Speaker 1: of ability, but I think there ought to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit of preparation, at least by the President and

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Speaker 1: others in the Department of Defense about what might happen.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree or disagree with that?

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Speaker 6: No, I think we need more explanation. The explanation is

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Speaker 6: a good thing that leads to persuasion. It gets the

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Speaker 6: people on your side. It's not really how President Trump works.

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Speaker 6: President Trump wants to work through surprise and unpredictability, and

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Speaker 6: so he's not going to be really laying the groundwork

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Speaker 6: for any operation UH where He's going to continue his rhetoric.

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Speaker 6: He's going to continue to say, we need something from Iran.

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Speaker 6: They better they better obey these red lines that I've

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Speaker 6: set down or else they're going to face punishment. They're

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Speaker 6: going to face a reprisal. But he's not going to

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Speaker 6: get into the nitty gritty. And of course we know

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Speaker 6: from President Trump he does not want to risk American lives.

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Speaker 6: He is very he's very understanding that the American people,

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Speaker 6: UH may react negatively to casualties to an operation gone wrong.

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Speaker 6: He's rolled the dice quite a few times. Midnight Hammer,

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Speaker 6: we hit our target, absol Resolve, incredible, just taking Maduro

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Speaker 6: right before the vault was about to close and protect

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Speaker 6: him right and now he's in New York jail. What's

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Speaker 6: the the question here is what is the roll of

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Speaker 6: the dice in Iran? What is that going to look like?

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Speaker 6: And I think right now there's a lot of military

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Speaker 6: planning happening.

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Speaker 5: What is the type of spectacular.

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Speaker 6: Dramatic attack that will both punish the Iranian regime and

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Speaker 6: telegraph to elements within the within the regime, and in

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Speaker 6: the Iranian people at large. You need to make massive

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Speaker 6: changes in behavior. The iotota needs to go or else

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Speaker 6: more will come.

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Speaker 1: I think you're over the target, Matt, and I hope

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Speaker 1: because it can't. Let the redline be arranged. Matt Kaney,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Follow him on exit continety, read the Free

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Speaker 1: agree with the general in me that it looks like

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Speaker 1: Iran is about to go full Alamo and we ought

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Speaker 1: to welcome that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's been a long time coming, Hugh.

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Speaker 3: And sorry to be a little a little tardy. I'm

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Speaker 3: that's the second time. I'm not going to keep blaming it, and.

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Speaker 1: If you have a newborn, you have you get complete.

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Speaker 3: There's just a handoffs that. So anyway, I think that

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Speaker 3: this is a situation where you know that the regime

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Speaker 3: has clearly been signaling that this was the direction that

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Speaker 3: it was headed for a while. And I think we've

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Speaker 3: heard that from a lot of smart commentators, including the

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Speaker 3: General Uh and including yourself. I think that that's just

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Speaker 3: an inevitability, and at a certain point you have to

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Speaker 3: accept that. You can't just you know, sort of. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we spent so many years living in the Obama Biden

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Speaker 3: fantasy land under you know, Ben Roads and all of

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Speaker 3: the idiots that we're running policy back. Then we have

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Speaker 3: to accept for the world for as it is, and

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Speaker 3: I think that this Trump administration has done a very

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Speaker 3: good job of.

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Speaker 1: Doing that now. Ben, I think the idea that the

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Speaker 1: vice president is a restrainer is overstated. But he's in

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Speaker 1: Milan for the Olympics, and Secretary Rubio is here, and

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham is channeling your late father in law every

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Speaker 1: minute he gets a chance to. I don't see anyone

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Speaker 1: saying go soft on Iran right now, at least not

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Speaker 1: on our team.

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Speaker 3: I certainly don't. And look, you know, this is something

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Speaker 3: that I've said before, and I know that JD's team

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Speaker 3: is not particularly happy when I pointed out, but he

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Speaker 3: does have a way of kind of of navigating this

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Speaker 3: where he kind of removes himself from some of these situations.

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Speaker 3: We you know, it was obviously notable that he wasn't

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Speaker 3: in any of the pictures regarding you know, the Maduro raid.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't the only one to notice that, of course,

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Speaker 3: And I think that that is a decision that could

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Speaker 3: be one that he is making purposefully. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that it is. I'm just saying that it could be.

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Speaker 3: And I think that in this instance, you know, certainly

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Speaker 3: the Secretary of State has made clear what he thinks

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Speaker 3: about this during his longtime career in the Senate, and

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't think there's going to be anybody

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Speaker 3: in the room, certainly not anybody who's going to have

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Speaker 3: the president's ear on this to overwhelm a decision that

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Speaker 3: I think is pretty obvious in a long time coming.

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Speaker 1: So Ben, I don't fault the president for anything. The

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Speaker 1: left is trying to make him responsible for getting people

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Speaker 1: out in the streets. They were out in the streets before.

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Speaker 1: I think he was trying to deter the Iranian regime

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Speaker 1: from doing what they did, which is murder at least

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand people. And now I think he's got to

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Speaker 1: build up our forces because he can't allow American forces

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Speaker 1: to be killed in great numbers, if any, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so it's going to be a while, or it's

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Speaker 1: going to be as long as it takes. My question is,

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Speaker 1: do you think anyone has done what they need to

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Speaker 1: do from the administration side to prepare the American public

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Speaker 1: for any casualties. I remember before. You might not be

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Speaker 1: old enough to remember Golf War One, but we were

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Speaker 1: expecting six figure casualties and.

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Speaker 3: No, I remember it, and somewhere I actually still have

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Speaker 3: my notebook that I took. I used to follow it

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Speaker 3: and track it as a kid.

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Speaker 1: So do you think that the ground work for readying

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Speaker 1: the American public for casualties, because that's why the Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: withdrawal went so badly for Team Biden. We didn't expect

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Speaker 1: any casualties and lost thirteen.

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Speaker 3: I do not believe that they have. I do not

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Speaker 3: believe that they have. And look, the President has been

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Speaker 3: and I should say It's one thing to say fortunate,

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Speaker 3: but it's actually, you know, really incredible what he's been

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Speaker 3: able to pull off without American casualties in terms of

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Speaker 3: his approach that he's used to this point. When it

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Speaker 3: comes to our security and foreign policy around the globe,

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Speaker 3: you can't keep rolling those dice and expecting them to

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Speaker 3: always go your way. And I think that in this instance,

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Speaker 3: very little work has been done, if at all, to

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Speaker 3: show the American people one that this is something that

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Speaker 3: they need to understand comes with a lot more risk

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Speaker 3: than exultrating a you know, a corrupt, you know leader

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Speaker 3: in Venezuela. A lot more risk to American lives and

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Speaker 3: a lot more potential for American cat And I just

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Speaker 3: don't think that I have not seen Republicans in particular,

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Speaker 3: who have been supportive of this policy in the past,

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Speaker 3: going out there and being willing to say that to this.

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Speaker 1: Point, I tell people I've been listening to twice now

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Speaker 1: the book Empire of Terror by Mark Zelenski about the

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Speaker 1: Islamic Revolutionary Guard Court. It's one hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: fanatics and now they've got blood on their hands and

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Speaker 1: they've got to be Iran's got to be at least

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Speaker 1: as traumatized as Israel was on ten to seven thirty

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Speaker 1: thousand people is a lot to be murdered in forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours, and there won't be any amnesty for the IRGC.

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Speaker 1: If there's a regime swap, well there.

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Speaker 3: Of course no, of course not. And I think that

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Speaker 3: this is a situation where they're I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: going to be an existential fight. And again I don't

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Speaker 3: think that this is something that you are reading that book.

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Speaker 3: I've you know, certainly read plenty on this, and also

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Speaker 3: I would recommend to people if they have not listened

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Speaker 3: to it Eli Lake's podcast that he did a couple

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Speaker 3: of months back, just guiding you through a kind of

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Speaker 3: the Shah and everything that went down with the Red

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Speaker 3: Green Revolution and everything associated with it. It's a good

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Speaker 3: explainer packed in a small package break history. But I

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Speaker 3: think that this is incredible in terms of what we're

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Speaker 3: seeing play out in front of us. But unfortunately, the

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Speaker 3: American people, I think, really again have not had the

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Speaker 3: type of work done in a dance. People are tired

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Speaker 3: of Middle Eastern wars that they see as pointless and

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Speaker 3: they see as long term and risky and fully sort

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Speaker 3: of dragging down America's resources and leading to the loss

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Speaker 3: of life. And if the President goes into this, I

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Speaker 3: think without making a strong case for it and having

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Speaker 3: his supporters stand with him on it, then that's a

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Speaker 3: very risky maneuver. But the President is, as you know,

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Speaker 3: is willing to take risks.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard the argument from anyone this regime showed

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Speaker 1: us who they are. Believe them, they will kill thirty

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Speaker 1: thousand of their own people. We should expect them to

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Speaker 1: want to kill every American and every Israeli if and

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Speaker 1: when they can ben no'll turn to the Shoni. I

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Speaker 1: haven't heard that argument yet.

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't, and that's certainly not you know, from

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Speaker 3: the people who matter in this and who I think

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Speaker 3: folks need to listen to. And look, a lot of

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Speaker 3: that I think is distraction and reluctance to be the

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Speaker 3: first one out of the gate to say this. But

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Speaker 3: if the President has made clear and look, this is

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Speaker 3: a long standing Republican policy and not just of hawks

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Speaker 3: that you know, we know the effect of Iran around

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Speaker 3: the world. We know the hinge point that it represents

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Speaker 3: with other world powers. We know what in Iran that

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Speaker 3: looked different today that looked more like what it's people

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Speaker 3: actually want it to be would mean potentially for the

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Speaker 3: region and for and for people around the world. And

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Speaker 3: they are at their weakest point as a regime that

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Speaker 3: they have been in my lifetime. And so it's one

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Speaker 3: of these situations where, unfortunately, I think that lack of education,

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Speaker 3: that lack of making the case for something before you

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Speaker 3: do it, is something that could come back to bite

870
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 3: the president if things do not go well.

871
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: You had a notebook on the first Iraq War.

872
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: Yes, so that was actually I was home school, Hugh,

873
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 3: and so that was an assignment. We tracked it. I

874
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: you know what. We would watch the nightly news, we

875
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: would watch Peter Jennings, we would pay attention to the

876
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: updates and read the Washington Post back when it was

877
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: a good paper.

878
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that during the break because

879
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: that we have to. But I'm just I'm just very

880
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: happy that someone can remember nineteen ninety one. Besides Britt

881
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: Hume and I were talking about it.

882
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 3: It was just like right there on page one.

883
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: You weren't around though for the first Iranian Revolution, right,

884
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: You weren't there in seventy eight and seventy nine, So

885
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: you can't.

886
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: It was not.

887
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Britt Hume and I were doing memory Lane on

888
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: that this week. Don't Go Anywhere, America. I'll be right

889
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: back with Ben Dominic during the break, which will be

890
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: on the Big Weekend Pod as well, and then he'll

891
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: be back. I got to do my quiz with him

892
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: that I gave him that continenty early as well. Don't

893
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: Go Anywhere. Stay tuned on Super Bowl Weekend on Due Gowett.

894
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: The HU huge show coming to you from the Relief

895
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: Actor Studio is brought to you by Reliefactor dot Com.

896
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm back with Ben Dominic. Ben. It's my policy never

897
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: to talk about someone for whom i've worked, So I

898
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: worked for the Washington Post for a decade or eight years,

899
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I read a lot of columns for him,

900
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna say anything at all about them.

901
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: But what you said about the sports section at the

902
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: end of the Big Ben Pod is objective. If you

903
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: don't have a sports section, you're not trying to sell

904
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: newspapers to Americans, are you.

905
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: No? No, And look, this is what people care about

906
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 3: when they go to their newspaper. And it's also, by

907
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: the way, the thing that sparks debate that sparks. You

908
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: know that you would have situations where someone write a

909
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: column and you debate it on local sports talk radio,

910
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: You argue about it in the local bars. You go

911
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: back and forth on who's right about the you know,

912
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: the team or the player or what you know, the

913
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: way things are going, what needs to happen, who needs

914
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: to be fired. And that's the kind of thing that

915
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: makes for a community and actually a unifying element within

916
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: that community where you have people with very different political beliefs.

917
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: I mean I was talking to, you know, a friend

918
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 3: across across the way, Uh, just this just today about

919
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: Sonny Jurgensen and uh tweet him and everything else like that.

920
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean auto versus.

921
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, quite quite a different pairing. Auto put Sonny on

922
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: a lettuce diet, by the way, that was what sparked

923
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 3: that common But the but the you know, the truth is,

924
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: I know, for a fact he's just a neighborhood friend,

925
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: uh that I see occasionally at a restaurant, and he

926
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: I know that he has complete opposite politics than me.

927
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: He's about ten years older than me. You know, Washington

928
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: bureaucrat lived in the place forever. We all we both

929
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 3: love the same teams, and so we both care when

930
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: someone like Sonny Jurgenson dies, and it would be great

931
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: to have a sports section that has someone who could

932
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: write about how great he was as opposed to what

933
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 3: you know, Today's Washington Post would probably go through all

934
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Speaker 3: the problematic things that Sonny Jurgens.

935
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: Is Billy kill alive from the great QB controversy.

936
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 3: Of twenty Not only is he still alive, I just

937
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: heard him doing an interview, uh this afternoon on local

938
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: sports talk radio and he actually had uh had lunch

939
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: with Sonny. He said, just a couple of weeks ago.

940
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: Well, but Mickey Lolich died this week, like people I

941
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: grew up with are dying this week. But but the

942
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: Billy Kilmer, Sonny Jergens, I'm a Cleveland dot com guy.

943
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: I spend lots of money on Cleveland dot Com. I

944
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: can't imagine the Post not having like five pages on Sunday.

945
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 3: This is And you know, of course the problem with

946
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 3: that as well is that no no media entity was

947
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: a bigger cheerleader against the Redskins name than the Washington Post,

948
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 3: which made millions, you know, sold millions of newspapers on

949
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: the bandwagon with Tony Kornheiser on the ninety one team.

950
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,479
Speaker 3: You know that that made so much money because people

951
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: wanted to read their coverage of their favorite team, and unfortunately,

952
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: it just got to a point where, look, there was

953
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: glowing coverage. You will not find a negative article about

954
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: uh may Can rap Ito in the Washington Post, Okay,

955
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: but you will find more criticism of that name uh,

956
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: you know, and more pushes to change it. And finally,

957
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 3: when you know, in the wake of George Floyd, they

958
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: finally were able to do it. And look, whatever you

959
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: think about that, it's just that it just speaks to

960
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: the fact that this was a newspaper that became entirely

961
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: possessed of politics. In every section. You know, the people

962
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 3: were handing around the article rows.

963
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: But that's all I'm gonna say about the Post. I'm

964
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: going to come back with Ben on the other side,

965
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: give him my test. Stay tuned in America, Welcome back

966
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: to America. I'm here here with Ben Dominicch, host of

967
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: the Big Ben Podcast, which is raw a being good

968
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: fun this week because it talks a lot about gambling

969
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: and stuff I didn't know about it, and I learned

970
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: a lot from it this week, So I would encourage

971
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: you to go and listen to it before I go there, Ben, though,

972
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: I want to run my test. Have you ever heard

973
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: of the screenwriter Richard Curtis.

974
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: That does ring a bell?

975
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: He wrote, He's the King of the wrong Coms? Right?

976
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: He wrote Four Weddings and Funeral Love.

977
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 3: Actually funeral is what I was thinking, yes, Nodding Hill.

978
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: So last night I was sucking into watching Nodding Hill

979
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: again by my wonderful wife of forty four years. I

980
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: haven't seen it in twenty seven years. So how long

981
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: have you been married?

982
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 3: I'm well at sixty. I think about things in terms

983
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 3: of when I met my wife. We are eight years

984
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 3: this we will be eight years this year.

985
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: So you don't have a chance yet to forget any

986
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: movies that you saw together. And so I didn't remember anything.

987
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: But my theory is now that women remember every line

988
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: and scene in a rom com and men. Don't you

989
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: agree with me?

990
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: Oh no, I have to disagree with you. And the

991
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: reason is, well, wait a minute, okay, I think it

992
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 3: depends on your definition of romantic comedy.

993
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: Well, Nodding Hill Love, actually four weddings at a funeral?

994
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: They're like all.

995
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: Rom coms I know, But I think my wife is

996
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: a bit more of like a Princess Bride era kind

997
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 3: of person of something like that is more in her speed,

998
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: like the thing that is. I mean, you have to

999
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: keep in mind you're talking to someone from like the

1000
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: American pie generation.

1001
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, comedy.

1002
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: The things that we actually quote back and forth to

1003
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 3: each other most of the time are usually stuffed from

1004
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:09,959
Speaker 3: like Destin show.

1005
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: Now, and I took my boys to see Team America

1006
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: when I thought it was actually a fun movie, and

1007
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: I was I'm still having that down.

1008
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: But badness, it's a fun movie.

1009
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: It was a fun movie, but it wasn't for them

1010
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: at that age.

1011
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: It was I think, I think that what you're you're

1012
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 3: you're unfortunately speaking to someone who's whose wife's favorite genre

1013
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: is horror films. Oh, exactly the same thing.

1014
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: All right. Now, let me go to the gambling. I

1015
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: had no idea not and you know, the the Guardians

1016
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: of Lost class a forever he gambled. Apparently, it's alleged

1017
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: forty eight different games over a couple of seasons. Luis

1018
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: Ortiza out of the game now too, so that the

1019
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: Guardians Indians have been crushed by this. Now I find

1020
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: out you could have made. It's not a prop bet. Really,

1021
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know how you described that market on

1022
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: what someone's going to say on the Colbert Show that's nuts.

1023
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. So this these prediction markets have gotten more attention

1024
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: because obviously they advertise a ton calshee and and people

1025
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 3: have probably seen you know, stuff about poly market on

1026
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: you know online. Yeah, And the prediction markets that usually

1027
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 3: get talked about are ones that are about significant events.

1028
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 3: You know, they're they're you know, what is the fed

1029
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: rate gonna be? There's you know, I literally heard an

1030
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: ad for something you know on the way over that

1031
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 3: was about you know, you know, do you want to

1032
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: pick for I can't remember which one of them, but

1033
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: do you want to predict the the Academy Award for

1034
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: the next you know, Oscar winner, that kind of thing.

1035
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: But what people don't talk about in this is that

1036
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 3: they're so unregulated that in the instance of that Chris

1037
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: Hayes of MMS I guess it's MS now now it

1038
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 3: talked about he was there was a market for something

1039
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 3: he had already done. He had done the Colbert Show,

1040
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: which they tape typically at around five o'clock, and then

1041
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: there was a market that had opened about things that

1042
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: he would say on the program, which creates a horrible

1043
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: situation where you're predicting something that has already happened, and

1044
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 3: that stuff is perfectly okay according to these prediction markets,

1045
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 3: which by the way, California does not allow sports gambling.

1046
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: But you will be able if you are in the stands,

1047
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 3: you know, in San Francisco for the Super Bowl, you

1048
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: could you could, you know, do the kind of prediction

1049
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 3: market play that is a swap or a contract considered

1050
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: different from a sports gambling that doesn't have to go

1051
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: through a sports book. And I think that that's a

1052
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 3: real problem, and I think the Congress is waking up

1053
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: to it. But it's there's a lot of people who are,

1054
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 3: I think, blowing a lot of money on me.

1055
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: So what what that raised for me? After I listened

1056
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: to it With the backgrounds of the Guardian, players being

1057
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: banned from baseball effectively for the rest of their careers,

1058
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: whether or not they're convicted. I don't know. Do you

1059
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: think baseball has the regulatory structure or the NBA or

1060
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: anyone to stop prediction market gambling by players versus gambling gambling.

1061
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 3: I think that they do not, especially because the and

1062
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: I didn't really get into this on the show, but

1063
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: I think you're catching on to something there, which is

1064
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 3: that the adiction markets are technically you know, they're governed

1065
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 3: by the FEDS. They're governed under the CFTC, and they

1066
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: do not have the kind of state regulations and things

1067
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 3: like that. And they also, you know, obviously are involving

1068
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 3: contracts and swaps that are considered different than you know,

1069
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: legally than sports gambling, even though if you look at

1070
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: the actual makeup of their markets, the majority nearly the majority,

1071
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 3: I should say, the vast plurality, I should say, of

1072
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: these prediction markets. The money that is moving around is

1073
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: about sports, so it's just a substitute for sports gambling

1074
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: in states that haven't allowed it.

1075
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Speaker 1: I think the commissioners have got to wake up to this,

1076
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: which brings me a course to the Super Bowl. In

1077
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: my last guest that I can ask this, I'm going

1078
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: to be flying, which is very good because I'm torn.

1079
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel's an Ohio state guy. But I can't imagine

1080
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: having to live with the Patriots fans during the summer

1081
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: if they win another ring. And I don't care about

1082
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, so I'm not going to care about anything

1083
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Speaker 1: except what the reaction to Bad Bunny is going to be.

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00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: What has Roger Goodell made a momentous error or is

1085
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 1: it in fact something that will be forgotten by next week.

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00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: I think this is an error, but I also think

1087
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna be something that's forgotten by next week because

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00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: I think one thing that Bad Bunny is is he's

1089
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 3: actually not that bad. He's pretty corporate and the bad

1090
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 3: in the in the you know, likely the buck sort

1091
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: of the the expectations of the most powerful sports league

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00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: in America. I don't think that's gonna happen, and I

1093
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: think that that's going to be something that probably, you know,

1094
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 3: some leftist guts get worked up about, who want him to,

1095
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: you know, show up and have some anti ice display

1096
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: or something like that. It's possible that he does that,

1097
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: but I think on a certain level, if you do that,

1098
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: then that's a toxic moment that will follow you the

1099
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 3: rest of your career and eliminates the whole bunch of people.

1100
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 3: And again, Republicans buy shoes too, So it's one of

1101
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: these things that I think ultimately will probably be forgotten.

1102
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: As for the game, I just have to say, can

1103
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: we can we just applaud Sam Darnolds. Yeah, the guy

1104
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: just such a rough career, got chewed up in New York,

1105
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: blamed for everything, cast off by everybody in can Vikings.

1106
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: Let him go yea yeah, and he's in the super

1107
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: Bowl now. I got to get a word from you though.

1108
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: On Mahea and Malanowski in New Jersey. I was on

1109
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: Fox today talking about Maheah. I think Apak sent a message,

1110
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: which is you can't be on the fence about Israel.

1111
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: To mister Malanowski and every other Democrat. You can. You

1112
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: might be a far left wacko and hate Israel, but

1113
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: you can't be on the fence.

1114
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: What do you think, Ben, I think I think that

1115
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: they did. And I think the part of that is,

1116
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 3: you know, the assumption, uh, you know what is what

1117
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: is the what is the line from uh one of

1118
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: Paul's epistles? You know, because you were neither hot nor cold?

1119
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 3: I hask you out of my mouth. You know.

1120
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: I think that's actually revelation, isn't it.

1121
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: It's I think I thought it was Lilly Pizzles. But

1122
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 3: it's one of the things that I think is is

1123
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 3: true of this nature now for apac which says we

1124
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 3: are not going to tolerate this type of wavering neutrality

1125
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: because we're gonn assume that you're going to be you know,

1126
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: at the whim of the trends. We need to know

1127
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: where you stand.

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01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: I think that's where it was, and I think message

1129
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: received for every Democrat. Ben Dominich, back to parenting. I

1130
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Enjoyed the Super Bowl as much

1131
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: as as possible with a baby in two toddlers and

1132
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: enjoy I got.

1133
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 3: A permission to go to a party. To you, it's

1134
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 3: a big deal.

1135
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: You're going to a party. Yes with toddlers?

1136
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: No, No, myself. Good evening off?

1137
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: Oh you gotta coupon you won. I salute your wife.

1138
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Thank you, Ben for joining us. We'll talkt

1139
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: you again next week. Don't go anywhere America. Coming back,

1140
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk a little bit more about this New

1141
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: Jersey primary after the break. Oh, I thought we were

1142
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: because we threw up the picture of something other. But

1143
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: here's the deal coming up after the break. There's a

1144
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: runoff in New Jersey a primary New Jersey last night.

1145
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: There are two candidates who are within six hundred five

1146
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: hundred both to each other. In Mahea and fellow, and

1147
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: I will talk to you about her and him after

1148
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: the break, as I did this morning on Fox.

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Speaker 3: They can