1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Michael Foulton Crosswall Talk. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 3: I recently had the chance to take part in a 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 3: round able discussion with a couple of media friends and 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: Bear Grills, hosts of the new Prime video series Chosen 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 3: in the Wild with Bear Grills. The series follows Barr 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 3: as he leads the cast and crew of the Chosen 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: on rugged adventures that test their physical limits. It was 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 3: a great discussion about Bear's faith and his career. Joining 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: me Rare, Paula Say I plugged in, and Paul Saffin 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 3: of AMFM magazine, who asked the first question. 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: We're so excited to talk to you about the show. 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: It is so good And I got to note, I 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 4: love your focus on everything. You focus on your faith, 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: on what you're doing and always bringing something different. What 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 4: is it that you keep in mind that it always 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 4: keeps you on that right path? 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, by your kind. 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 5: I think that's a daily question, isn't it like all 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 5: of us? For all of us, I don't know. I've 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 5: always tried to pursue those things in my life, try 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 5: and keep the main thing the main thing. 23 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 24 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 5: In terms of the TV shows has always been take 25 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 5: people into the outdoors, keep it honest, talk about the 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 5: real stuff of life, family, friendships, faith, you know, and 27 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 5: keep each other smiling, keep each other movie, keep each 28 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 5: other alive, and then try and finish strong and create 29 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 5: something beautiful. But I think Chosen in the Wild has 30 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 5: that it's been really fun to be able to dial 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 5: up that faith kind of chat a little bit more, 32 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 5: you know. I think on Running Wild, it's there. Sometimes 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 5: it's there, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's like, you know, 34 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 5: you kind of have to have seasons for different things, 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 5: the new and feel your way. But I think the 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 5: fans of The Chosen are going to love this because 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 5: this show has had such a major impact on so 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 5: many of the actors' lives. And I think that's the 39 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: part of people might underestimate of how transformation has been 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 5: for these actors to be part of this, and they 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: weren't all people of faith before, you know, really has 42 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 5: been like an incredible journey, and all of them arrived 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 5: on the show, you know, into the outdoors, into the 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: canyon lands or forests, all really honest, ready to kind 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 5: of talk about some of these struggles and battles. And 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 5: I really admire and love that honesty in them. 47 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: By one of the things that strikes me about just 48 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: sort of what you do. You're obviously in the wilderness 49 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: all the time, and the wilderness is a huge place 50 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: of spiritual encounter in the Bible. We see it over 51 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: and over and over again. I know that you're a 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: man of faith. Was that one of the things that 53 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: attracted you to what you do? And have you had 54 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: deep spiritual experiences within the wilderness yourself? 55 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 5: Well, I think I never would have articulated it like that, 56 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 5: but I think there's just been a magnet in my 57 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 5: heart that's always drawn me to those sort of places. 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 5: I don't know, I think I struggle much more in 59 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 5: everyday life, back in normal things. I kind of you know, 60 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 5: there's a connection always with the outdoors that you know, 61 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 5: we're designed like that, like nature heals all of us, 62 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 5: you know, it restores us and refreshes us. It doesn't 63 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 5: have to you know, it's not always like just a 64 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 5: spiritual thing like that. I feel the whole thing's connected really. 65 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: You know, you sit on a sit on the side 66 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 5: of a river with your feet in the cool water, 67 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 5: it's like, you know, it's beautiful, Or just messing around 68 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 5: with dogs on the grass or all with someone you 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 5: love through a forest. You know, these are these are 70 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 5: beautiful moments, and it's those are actually church spiritual moments, 71 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 5: you know. It's just we're so used to calling church 72 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: spiritual moments have to be in a building or saying 73 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 5: formal prayers. 74 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 75 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 5: For me, it's a magna that draws you back to 76 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: the outdoors and that's where I feel the connection and 77 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 5: and uh. 78 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: That's where I believe all of us are meant to be, 79 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: you know. 80 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're not just shy about discussing your faith, 81 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: and you're not shy about discussing your faith and the chosen. 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: And the wild either. Why have you been so open 83 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: about your faith? Because I get asked about it so much. 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: In the truth is like I think there's a hunger 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: of in people around the world. I don't think it's 86 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 5: something new. I think it's always there. You know, It's 87 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 5: a It's a magnet in our heart, isn't it? Like 88 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 5: we try everything else, but some keys need certain keys 89 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 5: to fit in the lock. And I don't know, I 90 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: think in terms of spirituality, I can only speak from 91 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 5: my own experience, But like my Christian faith has been 92 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 5: a really quite strong, empowering part of my life has 93 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 5: helped me through many difficult moments. I try and say 94 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 5: my prayers in the morning, say sorry, ask for help, 95 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 5: say thank you, and I kind of keep it. 96 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: Simple, but I get asked about it a lot, you know. 97 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 5: And it's like, I think, if something's part of you, 98 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 5: you know it, like you wear it on your sleeve. 99 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 5: It's like, you know, you don't necessarily hide it away. 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: I'm not like intentionally hiding it or showing it. It's 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 5: just sort of becomes part of who you are and 102 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 5: part of what helps you. And you know, and I 103 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 5: think also when you're outdoors and people who talk about 104 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 5: this stuff much more easily, you know, it's like I 105 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 5: don't get asked about my faith necessarily on a chat 106 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 5: show in two minutes, but you go and climb a 107 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 5: mountain with someone and watch the sunset. 108 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: Is kind of like, as you know, you probably all 109 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: experience it. 110 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 5: You chat about stuff. The real stuff in life is 111 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: not just faith, but it's all the stuff that's connected 112 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 5: to that, relationships and dreams and goals and attitudes and 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 5: our values and all of that, you know. So I know, 114 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 5: I think people, I know, people ask me lots about it. 115 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 5: I try and be honest, I don't have all the answers. 116 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: You know, well, what you've done is have been very 117 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 4: very inspirational, and you've always given us something fresh. This 118 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 4: included you know, for the people that are looking up 119 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 4: to you and thinking, that's what I want to do. 120 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: I want to tell great stories and tell them any 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 4: unique way. What kind of advice would you get? 122 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: So I'm not sure I do do that. 123 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: I'm not always like I said, always try to just 124 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: follow my heart and try and like, you know, the 125 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 5: adventure has been such a big part of my life 126 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 5: from when I was a kid. 127 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 128 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: I've got children now, what do I say to them? 129 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 5: I always trying and say just try and follow that. 130 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 5: Find what you really love and like and like, go 131 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: for it and it just just fail a bunch, and 132 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 5: build good people around you, and listen to nature and 133 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 5: keep faith center in your life because you might not 134 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 5: need it now. You might it might all be sunny 135 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: and rosie now, but it will help you. 136 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: You know. 137 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 5: It's like you don't have to force it on anyone else, 138 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 5: but just keep it in your keep it in your heart. 139 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 5: You know, this life is very humbling, It humbles all 140 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: of us. To be honest, that might happen when you're young, 141 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 5: it might happen on your deathbed, but all of us 142 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 5: get humbled by life, you know, injury, breakdowns of relationships 143 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 5: or struggles or like you know, it's just life is humbling, 144 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: and I think like it's a great lesson to learn 145 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 5: early on. 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