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Speaker 1: Australian. We had a former Australian of the Year. Her

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Speaker 1: name is Grace Team, and she was a victim of

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Speaker 1: child sexual assault and she came out very strongly, very

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Speaker 1: publicly fighting against perpetrators of that. She was a teenager.

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Speaker 1: Incredible right and a very worthy recipient of that award.

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Speaker 1: Anyone who does work in that space is utterly deserving,

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Speaker 1: and she was. The issue now is that she has

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Speaker 1: decided to chant globalize the Interfarta, scream it unhinged. In

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Speaker 1: fact with me from Gadigal to Gaza globalize the Intifada

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Speaker 1: won more time from Gadigal to Gadha globalize and now

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Speaker 1: say that reports of sexual assault that occurd in October

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Speaker 1: seven are propaganda.

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Speaker 2: When he's texted in saying can you please ask Grace

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Speaker 2: why she's selective in her outrage, she says, I've never

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Speaker 2: heard her condemn or speak out on behalf of the

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Speaker 2: Israeli women who were raped and killed by Hamas on

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Speaker 2: October seven. Have you spoken about that, have you expressed

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Speaker 2: outrage about.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to sink to the level of entertaining

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Speaker 1: any kind of propaganda Hamish.

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Speaker 2: What's in that question?

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Speaker 1: Those things have been debunked. The Prime Minister called her

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Speaker 1: difficult recently a couple of weeks ago, and all of

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Speaker 1: these feminists and people they got really angry and they

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Speaker 1: came up publicly and they said, you can't do that

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Speaker 1: just because she's a strong woman with a voice. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is what happens to strong women with voices. No,

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Speaker 1: he was absolutely spot on. She is difficult, not because

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Speaker 1: she's brave and used her voice, not because she fights

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Speaker 1: against people who would perpetrate sexual violence upon youngsters, not

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Speaker 1: at all, but because she supports into Fada, because she

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Speaker 1: comes out and says terrorists did not rape, despite significant

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Speaker 1: evidence to the contrary, despite the United Nations coming out

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Speaker 1: releasing a report into that sexual violence, despite women themselves

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Speaker 1: who were held captive going on television and telling bravely

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Speaker 1: their stories of being victims of sexual violence at the

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Speaker 1: hands of hermas. That is why she's difficult. You don't

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Speaker 1: get a free pass because you went through hell to

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Speaker 1: be a dangerous individual. And when you've got a voice

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Speaker 1: and you were saying the thing she is saying, that

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Speaker 1: is dangerous. When you were screaming globalized the inter Fada

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Speaker 1: on Australian soil in the aftermath of a massacre that

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Speaker 1: killed fifteen people, fourteen of whom were Jewish. Then you

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Speaker 1: don't get a free pass. When you're a sexual assault

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Speaker 1: survivor and you deny the recorded sexual assault of other women,

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Speaker 1: you don't get a pass. That's not okay. The whole

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Speaker 1: thing is just ridiculous. People lose their minds out. I'm

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Speaker 1: scrolling through social media and looking at women who purport

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Speaker 1: to be feminists and stand up for other women, saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: how dare they silence her voice, including Jewish women, some

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Speaker 1: Jewish how dare they silence her voice? She was not silenced.

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Speaker 1: She chanted for an inter Farda. I've had people on

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Speaker 1: this show who lost their teenage daughter at the hands

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Speaker 1: of an inter to Farda, you can say that the

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Speaker 1: work she's done in one space is wonderful. You can

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Speaker 1: say that she's brave and courageous in this way. Not anymore,

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Speaker 1: not after this. Sorry, you don't get again a free

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Speaker 1: pass to hurt other people. My friends. The AFL, which

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Speaker 1: is another sporting code in Australia, there's an issue at

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Speaker 1: the moment in that the Sydney Swans did a tribute

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Speaker 1: to the victims of the Bondai massacre, and at the

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Speaker 1: last minute the word Jewish was taken out of that tribute.

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Speaker 1: Good Evening. The Sydney Swans have admitted they changed the

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Speaker 1: script of a pregame tribute to victims of the Bondai

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Speaker 1: terror attack, removing references to the Jewish community. These comments

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Speaker 1: before their opening round game against Carlton during a tribute

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Speaker 1: to heroes and victims of the Bondai terrorist attack, to

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Speaker 1: all in our community, we stand with you. So it

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Speaker 1: was meant to say we see and with the Jewish community,

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Speaker 1: but the word Jewish was taken out and it was

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Speaker 1: just we stand with the community. And there's lots of

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Speaker 1: different reports as to where it came from, whose directive

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Speaker 1: it was. People thought it was too political. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's really silly. I'd start by saying that to have

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Speaker 1: removed it really silly, because if there's an occasion where

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be controversial to refer to people

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Speaker 1: as Jewish, it's when fourteen of them were murdered on

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Speaker 1: Australian soil because of their religion. It wasn't just a

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Speaker 1: side note or a random anomaly. They were murdered because

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Speaker 1: they were Jewish. So first of all, just really silly,

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Speaker 1: really silly. No one was going to arc up. Even

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Speaker 1: the useful idiots would have found it very hard to

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Speaker 1: get traction on that. I think it shows more broadly

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Speaker 1: how screwed up we are as a society, not just Australia,

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Speaker 1: but more broadly speaking, that someone would be worried about

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Speaker 1: saying Jewish when talking about the victims of a massacre

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Speaker 1: that was done on the first day of Harneker against

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Speaker 1: the Jewish community. I think what it says is that

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Speaker 1: we're in a much worse place than maybe we thought.

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Speaker 1: The Sydney swansa a local team, have been incredible in

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Speaker 1: this space, they really have. They've almost led the way

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Speaker 1: along with you know, the Roosters in the rugby League

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Speaker 1: in terms of their support for the Jewish community, visiting

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Speaker 1: the site, spending time with kids. There are some gorgeous

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Speaker 1: pictures of kids in the locker rooms with them afterwards,

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Speaker 1: Jewish kids, including you know, some who lost parents in

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Speaker 1: that massacre. They've been amazing. But this was a real

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Speaker 1: own goal. This was really silly. But what I would

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Speaker 1: say is in terms of what to kind of prosecute

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Speaker 1: and get really angry about, and you know, pitchforks raised.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is it. I don't think this

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Speaker 1: is the occasion to really hammer down on I think

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Speaker 1: call it out absolutely. The truth would be lovely, as

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Speaker 1: in why it actually happened and whose decision it was.

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Speaker 1: I think that matters, because people won't stop to they

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Speaker 1: get the truth, and then I think they are bigger

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Speaker 1: fish to fry to be honest in regards to any

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Speaker 1: kind of campaigns or punishments or that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Given how good the sydneys ones have really been in

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Speaker 1: this space since October seven, but much more so since

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Speaker 1: the Bondai massacre, I don't think it helps if they

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Speaker 1: were to suddenly become the targets, if.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Just my thoughts, just my thoughts,