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Speaker 2: Today on Talk About That, John gets a fancy new

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Speaker 1: Johnny, it's a cold one. Let's talk about that. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's frigid. Pop open a cold one. That's not.

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Speaker 2: That could mean anything, though. You know what I'm saying? Like,

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Speaker 2: I pop open a cold one, it's just soda.

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Speaker 2: But everybody imagines beer when you say pop open a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the way they've monopolized the whole.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, no kidding. Someone said

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Speaker 1: Because we were talking about Lent. Yeah. And how, like,

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Speaker 2: I realized the other day, well, not the other day,

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Speaker 2: but somebody, when you think of breakfast, that's when you

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Speaker 2: it's one of those words that like has like a,

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Speaker 2: it means exactly what it is. You're breaking your fast.

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Speaker 2: I think I get a lot of credit for fasting

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Speaker 2: And I did say nine hours. If I don't get

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Speaker 1: I have a new watch that I got from my mother-in-law.

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Speaker 2: You showed it to me, and here's what you did, though.

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Speaker 2: You did the thing where you go, I don't need

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Speaker 2: I have all my Apple Watches. But you were kind

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Speaker 1: I don't. I had an Apple Watch.

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Speaker 2: But then you showed me all the stuff that this does.

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Speaker 1: No, my watch doesn't buzz all day.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. I don't get notifications. I just check it.

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Speaker 2: But I think you think you're better than me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's it. You don't have to finish the sentence. Okay. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how it really can do that,

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Speaker 1: Come on, Apple. We use a lot of Apple... We're

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Speaker 2: While you besmirch my Apple product.

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Speaker 1: Again, I had one. I just want to be free.

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Speaker 1: This thing... This other thing already buzzes. I want it

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Speaker 2: I've heard that before. Like if you have an Apple

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Speaker 2: And you look at it for a few seconds.

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Speaker 1: It was like my dog. We had the back door.

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Speaker 2: It's like the bell on the counter at the hotel.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've known this stuff is coming because with AI

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Speaker 2: Find CF Eye Care. you like that i like it

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Speaker 2: thing of, I'm Officer So-and-So. You received a federal jury summons.

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Speaker 2: From Wilson County Sheriff, which is our county. They said,

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Speaker 2: They go, you signed for this. And I go, well,

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Speaker 1: I go, well, this is a mistake. Well, do you

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Speaker 2: And then immediately I start thinking, is this a scam?

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Speaker 2: I go, what are you? You go, ask him his name.

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Speaker 2: You were off to the side.

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Speaker 2: John was being my Cyrano de Bergerac. He was like,

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Speaker 2: Read this poem to him. That's not the same. That's

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Speaker 1: It's a federal jury summit.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, we went round and round and then I kind

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Speaker 1: It was a scam.

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Speaker 2: And I said, this feels like a scam. And I go, why,

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Speaker 2: why does it, why did it say no caller ID

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Speaker 2: when you called? And then he starts doing it. Well,

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Speaker 2: to protect. Then I put him on speaker so you

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Speaker 2: I'm going to transfer you to so-and-so, and there's a fine,

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Speaker 1: And if you violate that, yada, yada, yada. And I go, oh.

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Speaker 2: And I go, well, this feels like a scam. And

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Speaker 2: then he kept saying, no, we're recording this on a

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Speaker 1: And I go, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I said, this feels– so I hung up. Then he

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Speaker 1: It's no call. Didn't he say, well, if you think

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Speaker 1: it's a scam, you can hang up, and the officers

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Speaker 1: will serve you a warrant. Right, right, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I go, fine. So I hung up,

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Speaker 2: and then he calls right back, and he goes, do

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Speaker 2: you think this is a game or something? He kind

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Speaker 2: I said, I think this is a scam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I said, who is your supervisor? Because

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Speaker 2: Like you immediately want to, I'm a people pleaser.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, you called me. this is a bad

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Speaker 1: The craziest thing. Yeah. You were like, okay, I walked

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Speaker 2: There's no water on the walls, no water on the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: But it's not arcing water. It's not still spraying, actively

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Speaker 2: I'm going to shut the main off.

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Speaker 2: He was stabbed with an icicle. That's the mystery. But

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Speaker 2: I didn't have time to do the, you know, detective

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Speaker 2: go over and you start doing your, your detective monk.

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Speaker 1: You didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: And we caught him on a good day. And he

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Speaker 2: And he fixed it all. He goes, this was your

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Speaker 2: And the water inside it arced for like however long.

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Speaker 2: Some of y'all are out here and you need to

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Speaker 1: Some of y'all think it's dust, but it's just water, man. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Some of y'all need to build an expansion tank because

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Speaker 2: And then the guy– I go, tell the guy I

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get a freebie because he's your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I dabble in.

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Speaker 1: reward is one of John Driver's books. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying? That's true. That's true. You're right. And my

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Speaker 1: books are way better than your shows. Yeah. Nate's tickets

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Speaker 1: bunch of people, that'd be fun.

438
00:17:17,331 --> 00:17:18,912
Speaker 2: I'm going to be in a lineup if this scam

439
00:17:18,952 --> 00:17:19,672
Speaker 2: wasn't a scam.

440
00:17:19,772 --> 00:17:23,482
Speaker 1: By the way. Oh, my gosh.

441
00:17:23,502 --> 00:17:24,782
Speaker 2: What if you were on him, and they're like, I'll

442
00:17:24,802 --> 00:17:26,502
Speaker 2: connect you to Officer Pembroke right now.

443
00:17:26,601 --> 00:17:27,882
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. And he's like, yeah, we're on the line

444
00:17:27,902 --> 00:17:28,422
Speaker 1: with your buddy.

445
00:17:28,442 --> 00:17:31,402
Speaker 2: He's being pretty awesome.

446
00:17:31,422 --> 00:17:33,622
Speaker 1: Well, I was kind of wondering. They're like, yeah, don't

447
00:17:33,682 --> 00:17:37,462
Speaker 1: mess with him or whatever. Yeah, he's a man. That was, man.

448
00:17:37,581 --> 00:17:40,562
Speaker 2: Okay, so anyway, all that said, the plumbing got fixed,

449
00:17:40,662 --> 00:17:43,422
Speaker 2: and John saved me once again. You were a friend

450
00:17:43,902 --> 00:17:45,702
Speaker 2: of all friends, although you didn't stay with him.

451
00:17:45,762 --> 00:17:47,342
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I had to go to.

452
00:17:47,382 --> 00:17:48,162
Speaker 2: You didn't hang out.

453
00:17:48,601 --> 00:17:52,362
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I had to be in Murfreesboro at like four, so.

454
00:17:53,391 --> 00:17:55,382
Speaker 1: Sorry it wasn't enough for you. So you chose your kid.

455
00:17:55,402 --> 00:17:58,982
Speaker 1: I did. Over me. I did. I chose.

456
00:18:00,002 --> 00:18:01,142
Speaker 2: My house could have been flooded, though.

457
00:18:01,722 --> 00:18:04,202
Speaker 1: I went and checked. Okay. And then I knew everything

458
00:18:04,222 --> 00:18:06,741
Speaker 1: was okay. I'm just glad our guy could come out

459
00:18:06,762 --> 00:18:08,821
Speaker 1: because he really is the best. And I'm not going

460
00:18:08,842 --> 00:18:10,322
Speaker 1: to promote him because I don't think he wants to

461
00:18:10,362 --> 00:18:10,782
Speaker 1: do all this.

462
00:18:10,822 --> 00:18:12,862
Speaker 2: Well, what if we give him a free, like, we

463
00:18:12,902 --> 00:18:15,162
Speaker 2: plug his plumbing company on the show and that's like

464
00:18:15,202 --> 00:18:16,302
Speaker 2: what we're doing, sponsor dollars.

465
00:18:16,322 --> 00:18:18,121
Speaker 1: The amount of business he would get would overwhelm him

466
00:18:18,742 --> 00:18:20,392
Speaker 1: so much. I'm not sure he's up for it. What

467
00:18:20,411 --> 00:18:22,512
Speaker 1: is the company? I don't know the name of his company.

468
00:18:22,552 --> 00:18:23,772
Speaker 1: I just know his name.

469
00:18:23,792 --> 00:18:24,311
Speaker 2: He sent it.

470
00:18:24,431 --> 00:18:25,612
Speaker 1: But you may not need to say it. That's what

471
00:18:25,652 --> 00:18:26,992
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Oh, I see. He does a lot of

472
00:18:27,092 --> 00:18:29,132
Speaker 1: other stuff. He doesn't want. I don't know if he

473
00:18:29,192 --> 00:18:29,821
Speaker 1: wants this kind of.

474
00:18:29,831 --> 00:18:31,692
Speaker 2: He doesn't want a bunch of people calling him for

475
00:18:31,732 --> 00:18:32,682
Speaker 2: their plumbing emergencies.

476
00:18:32,702 --> 00:18:34,782
Speaker 1: He does a lot of remodels and other things.

477
00:18:34,802 --> 00:18:37,762
Speaker 2: He wants big money. He doesn't want every time somebody's

478
00:18:37,782 --> 00:18:38,982
Speaker 2: expansion tank ruptures.

479
00:18:39,002 --> 00:18:40,502
Speaker 1: That's just what he does for you. I got to

480
00:18:40,522 --> 00:18:41,081
Speaker 1: come running.

481
00:18:40,922 --> 00:18:45,522
Speaker 2: Because of your radio ad. Well, his name was Chris. Chris,

482
00:18:45,891 --> 00:18:49,012
Speaker 2: if you're listening, thanks very much. Yeah.

483
00:18:49,232 --> 00:18:49,841
Speaker 1: And you saved me.

484
00:18:50,752 --> 00:18:52,292
Speaker 2: I feel like I want to do more.

485
00:18:52,311 --> 00:18:54,752
Speaker 1: Can I tell you a funny story? Yeah. When I

486
00:18:54,811 --> 00:18:57,582
Speaker 1: called him, he goes, were your ears just burning? I

487
00:18:57,621 --> 00:19:00,522
Speaker 1: was like, uh, no. And so he was going to

488
00:19:00,561 --> 00:19:03,582
Speaker 1: call me or send me a text later that day.

489
00:19:03,742 --> 00:19:04,742
Speaker 2: Because you missed jury duty.

490
00:19:04,842 --> 00:19:06,221
Speaker 1: Because I missed you. I couldn't believe it.

491
00:19:07,061 --> 00:19:08,991
Speaker 2: I've got a summons here. It says you signed it.

492
00:19:09,552 --> 00:19:13,152
Speaker 1: You owe me $ 400 now. And, He had taken his

493
00:19:13,232 --> 00:19:16,032
Speaker 1: kids with a great conversation about his kids and screens

494
00:19:16,072 --> 00:19:17,752
Speaker 1: and books. And he took, he started taking his kids

495
00:19:17,772 --> 00:19:22,822
Speaker 1: to McKay's, which is the used bookstore. Great. And so, uh,

496
00:19:23,282 --> 00:19:26,082
Speaker 1: he bought like 20 books. Yeah. He's just, you know,

497
00:19:26,362 --> 00:19:27,942
Speaker 1: to go and he's looking through them and he comes

498
00:19:27,982 --> 00:19:30,341
Speaker 1: across a book called not so black and white. Oh, right.

499
00:19:30,362 --> 00:19:32,322
Speaker 1: By Reggie Dabbs and John Driver. He's like, what? He

500
00:19:32,342 --> 00:19:33,702
Speaker 1: turns it over and my face is there.

501
00:19:34,121 --> 00:19:37,782
Speaker 2: He's like, what woke nonsense is this? He threw it

502
00:19:37,851 --> 00:19:38,592
Speaker 2: right in the garbage.

503
00:19:39,232 --> 00:19:39,651
Speaker 1: He said.

504
00:19:39,692 --> 00:19:41,931
Speaker 2: Did you ask what the price tag was on the book?

505
00:19:41,952 --> 00:19:43,852
Speaker 1: No. You didn't ask? It had to be 99 cents

506
00:19:43,891 --> 00:19:44,892
Speaker 1: or whatever. No, John.

507
00:19:44,952 --> 00:19:47,472
Speaker 2: No, McKay's has some books that are whatever. It's not

508
00:19:47,512 --> 00:19:51,152
Speaker 2: necessarily always bargain bin. It was discounted because it's McKay's thing.

509
00:19:51,172 --> 00:19:52,992
Speaker 1: It's used. It's funny. I told him, I said, you know,

510
00:19:53,032 --> 00:19:55,252
Speaker 1: you don't have to read the book. Like I was

511
00:19:55,272 --> 00:19:57,091
Speaker 1: telling him, you don't have to read this. There's no like,

512
00:19:57,172 --> 00:19:58,552
Speaker 1: I'm not going to follow up later.

513
00:19:58,592 --> 00:20:02,592
Speaker 2: Hey. Hey, let's do a little, ask for like a report,

514
00:20:02,811 --> 00:20:07,512
Speaker 2: do a book report. It was great. That's a great connection. Well,

515
00:20:07,702 --> 00:20:09,141
Speaker 2: you did, you saved me. And it was one of

516
00:20:09,161 --> 00:20:11,121
Speaker 2: those things where you just, you feel so ill at

517
00:20:11,161 --> 00:20:14,261
Speaker 2: ease when you're leaving a problem, especially an undiagnosed, like

518
00:20:14,442 --> 00:20:18,382
Speaker 2: what really happened problem. And so I felt, I don't know,

519
00:20:18,742 --> 00:20:22,532
Speaker 2: it felt, it made me feel even better than the anti-anxiety.

520
00:20:21,911 --> 00:20:22,932
Speaker 1: Medication that I had to take.

521
00:20:22,952 --> 00:20:27,411
Speaker 2: I felt, I was watching, I feel like these medicines,

522
00:20:27,572 --> 00:20:29,672
Speaker 2: by the way, were running out of names. Have you

523
00:20:29,712 --> 00:20:31,212
Speaker 2: noticed the weird names now?

524
00:20:31,612 --> 00:20:31,992
Speaker 1: Yeah.

525
00:20:32,032 --> 00:20:32,892
Speaker 2: I wrote a few of them down.

526
00:20:33,811 --> 00:20:40,421
Speaker 1: Zelljans. That's real? Come on, dude. Zelljans. Really? Yeah. Skyrizzy.

527
00:20:40,702 --> 00:20:42,562
Speaker 1: Come on. I've seen Skyrizzy on commercials.

528
00:20:42,681 --> 00:20:46,082
Speaker 2: And they always have to have like, Control is everything

529
00:20:46,101 --> 00:20:46,221
Speaker 2: to me.

530
00:20:46,222 --> 00:20:47,161
Speaker 1: The dancing that's happening in it.

531
00:20:47,782 --> 00:20:49,722
Speaker 2: It's a little pill with a big story to tell.

532
00:20:49,782 --> 00:20:52,762
Speaker 2: You're like, well, okay, just stop it. It's for kidney failure.

533
00:20:52,802 --> 00:20:53,361
Speaker 1: What are we?

534
00:20:53,382 --> 00:20:57,222
Speaker 2: They're dancing. You're like, these people's kidneys are working great. Well, yeah,

535
00:20:57,252 --> 00:21:00,412
Speaker 2: because they're on, you know, whatever. Trim fire or whatever.

536
00:21:00,472 --> 00:21:01,552
Speaker 2: Trim fire is my favorite.

537
00:21:01,692 --> 00:21:03,332
Speaker 1: The one where all the stuff falls off of them.

538
00:21:03,552 --> 00:21:07,172
Speaker 2: I want so bad for them to do an ad

539
00:21:07,402 --> 00:21:11,422
Speaker 2: where Alicia Keys is like, this pill is trim fire.

540
00:21:12,121 --> 00:21:15,392
Speaker 2: Why is that not happening? No kidding.

541
00:21:16,052 --> 00:21:16,612
Speaker 1: They asked her.

542
00:21:16,652 --> 00:21:21,171
Speaker 2: They had to have asked her. Well, that's three sponsors

543
00:21:21,212 --> 00:21:21,852
Speaker 2: we won't get now.

544
00:21:21,952 --> 00:21:24,832
Speaker 1: No. Because we're making fun of Zell Jans. What's the one?

545
00:21:25,081 --> 00:21:26,881
Speaker 2: Zell Jans sounds like a Superman villain.

546
00:21:27,482 --> 00:21:31,262
Speaker 1: There's one. They've redone an old song, and it's perfect.

547
00:21:31,462 --> 00:21:31,912
Speaker 1: What is it?

548
00:21:32,382 --> 00:21:33,602
Speaker 2: Oh, it's, well, you know, Ozempic was.

549
00:21:33,742 --> 00:21:34,122
Speaker 1: Ozempic.

550
00:21:34,322 --> 00:21:37,282
Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, Ozempic. So catchy.

551
00:21:37,482 --> 00:21:40,432
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what the. the royalty. Oh, I know.

552
00:21:40,972 --> 00:21:43,392
Speaker 2: Interesting. I mean, they would, you know, if you know

553
00:21:43,431 --> 00:21:47,332
Speaker 2: your drug, your song that was like a huge runaway

554
00:21:47,391 --> 00:21:50,922
Speaker 2: hit in whatever decade that was, uh, is now going

555
00:21:50,942 --> 00:21:53,641
Speaker 2: to be associated with this, whatever. At that point it

556
00:21:53,661 --> 00:21:56,242
Speaker 2: was a diabetes medication, which now is being used for

557
00:21:56,322 --> 00:21:59,681
Speaker 2: weight loss. But it's like, yeah, I would want a

558
00:21:59,702 --> 00:22:00,582
Speaker 2: good payday for that.

559
00:22:01,002 --> 00:22:01,361
Speaker 1: Probably.

560
00:22:01,382 --> 00:22:02,821
Speaker 2: I'd be like, all right, now I'm going to be

561
00:22:02,862 --> 00:22:06,002
Speaker 2: the Ozempic guy. I'm going to, But, I mean, if

562
00:22:06,022 --> 00:22:07,442
Speaker 2: it was one of our old songs, I'd be like,

563
00:22:07,482 --> 00:22:08,901
Speaker 2: what do you got? What's in your pocket?

564
00:22:09,002 --> 00:22:13,311
Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's make a deal. Speaking of, we had a

565
00:22:13,351 --> 00:22:16,272
Speaker 1: friend with a– not only is he up for a Grammy. Yes.

566
00:22:16,612 --> 00:22:19,992
Speaker 1: But his band, who we know the members of or

567
00:22:20,052 --> 00:22:21,952
Speaker 1: former members of. You act like you're trying to be secretive.

568
00:22:22,152 --> 00:22:24,952
Speaker 1: Just say the thing. His band, Loyals, had a song

569
00:22:25,212 --> 00:22:27,162
Speaker 1: on one of the playoff games. I want to ask.

570
00:22:27,641 --> 00:22:28,882
Speaker 2: Did you ever ask him, like, did he know that

571
00:22:28,902 --> 00:22:30,502
Speaker 2: was going to happen? He acted so surprised by it.

572
00:22:30,522 --> 00:22:31,222
Speaker 2: Can they do that?

573
00:22:31,362 --> 00:22:33,582
Speaker 1: Yeah. They can sync. It's called television sync.

574
00:22:33,641 --> 00:22:35,101
Speaker 2: So he already had, like, a sync license that would

575
00:22:35,121 --> 00:22:35,901
Speaker 2: have understood the thing.

576
00:22:35,802 --> 00:22:37,642
Speaker 1: If they decided to use it. And it's, like, probably

577
00:22:37,661 --> 00:22:39,322
Speaker 1: in some big database, and they picked that song. I

578
00:22:39,331 --> 00:22:40,991
Speaker 1: wonder if he'll get money, though. Sure. Do you think

579
00:22:41,012 --> 00:22:43,972
Speaker 1: there's money coming? Yeah. Wow, that's good stuff. I don't

580
00:22:44,012 --> 00:22:48,552
Speaker 1: know how much. Yeah. Hopefully a lot. Not nothing. That's

581
00:22:48,592 --> 00:22:50,882
Speaker 1: the same guy, by the way. Yeah. Just so you

582
00:22:50,902 --> 00:22:53,282
Speaker 1: guys can put this all together. Right. Who wrote the

583
00:22:53,342 --> 00:22:55,122
Speaker 1: theme song for Talk About That.

584
00:22:55,442 --> 00:22:57,841
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you hear our great theme, that's Dane Allen,

585
00:22:58,141 --> 00:23:01,292
Speaker 2: who plays with Disciple, plays with Honor and Glory, and

586
00:23:01,472 --> 00:23:04,472
Speaker 2: his band Loyals was featured on Sunday Night Football.

587
00:23:05,152 --> 00:23:07,692
Speaker 1: And so in many ways, this is like a Michael

588
00:23:07,712 --> 00:23:10,552
Speaker 1: Scott moment. Remember when Dwight has the big speech? Yeah. Like,

589
00:23:11,192 --> 00:23:14,702
Speaker 1: Dwight captivated a thousand people in a room and think,

590
00:23:15,442 --> 00:23:19,722
Speaker 1: I captivated the guy who captivated a thousand people. Exactly. Exactly.

591
00:23:19,931 --> 00:23:22,151
Speaker 1: So some might say that it was our song, Johnny.

592
00:23:23,492 --> 00:23:24,071
Speaker 1: I don't know how.

593
00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:27,851
Speaker 2: And what would Dane be without our instruction in his

594
00:23:28,052 --> 00:23:28,552
Speaker 2: young life?

595
00:23:29,351 --> 00:23:30,852
Speaker 1: Would he have gone on.

596
00:23:30,811 --> 00:23:34,811
Speaker 2: To be what he is now? Probably. Probably be a

597
00:23:34,851 --> 00:23:35,671
Speaker 2: little less anxious.

598
00:23:35,871 --> 00:23:37,831
Speaker 1: I did show him his first guitar chord when he

599
00:23:37,871 --> 00:23:41,601
Speaker 1: was 12. I don't want to be... A week he

600
00:23:41,641 --> 00:23:42,662
Speaker 1: was better than me. In a week.

601
00:23:42,802 --> 00:23:45,301
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was already... And he could sing. I don't

602
00:23:45,322 --> 00:23:49,411
Speaker 2: want to be this guy, but Dane... he's playing a

603
00:23:49,431 --> 00:23:51,292
Speaker 2: guitar on tour that I gave him.

604
00:23:51,652 --> 00:23:52,552
Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Yeah.

605
00:23:53,351 --> 00:23:55,232
Speaker 2: Like I gave him the Blue Ridge guitar that he plays.

606
00:23:55,272 --> 00:23:57,652
Speaker 2: Cause I was given on tour. I was on tour

607
00:23:57,672 --> 00:23:59,172
Speaker 2: with Tim and he started letting me play one of

608
00:23:59,212 --> 00:24:01,292
Speaker 2: his McPherson's, which is like a $ 10, 000 guitar that I

609
00:24:01,292 --> 00:24:03,552
Speaker 2: would never ever play or afford. And I was like,

610
00:24:03,572 --> 00:24:06,232
Speaker 2: look at me McPherson. So I had my Blue Ridge

611
00:24:06,311 --> 00:24:08,422
Speaker 2: and I was like, I felt immediately like I need

612
00:24:08,442 --> 00:24:09,062
Speaker 2: to give this today.

613
00:24:09,121 --> 00:24:09,982
Speaker 1: Cause he was playing.

614
00:24:09,862 --> 00:24:12,421
Speaker 2: Worship at the church. So I gave him the Blue Ridge.

615
00:24:13,101 --> 00:24:15,061
Speaker 2: And then Tim came back to me like a year

616
00:24:15,081 --> 00:24:16,261
Speaker 2: and a half later and was like, Hey, I need

617
00:24:16,282 --> 00:24:18,282
Speaker 2: that Blue Ridge or I need that McPherson back. And

618
00:24:18,302 --> 00:24:22,311
Speaker 2: I was just like, Oh, this wasn't for keepsies? And

619
00:24:22,371 --> 00:24:23,632
Speaker 2: then so I was like, well, now do I go

620
00:24:23,672 --> 00:24:24,272
Speaker 2: to Dane and be.

621
00:24:24,232 --> 00:24:27,662
Speaker 1: Like, hey, we'll need that Blue Ridge back. Gives these backsies.

622
00:24:28,752 --> 00:24:31,242
Speaker 2: And so instead I went and got a Martin, which

623
00:24:31,482 --> 00:24:35,522
Speaker 2: became like my favorite guitar. So no harm, no foul.

624
00:24:36,242 --> 00:24:39,582
Speaker 2: But Dane is still playing that Blue Ridge and too

625
00:24:39,621 --> 00:24:40,262
Speaker 2: much acclaim.

626
00:24:41,121 --> 00:24:43,962
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you could say that it wouldn't matter

627
00:24:44,002 --> 00:24:44,802
Speaker 1: what the guitar was.

628
00:24:44,862 --> 00:24:45,062
Speaker 2: Yeah.

629
00:24:45,081 --> 00:24:45,622
Speaker 1: But I say.

630
00:24:45,862 --> 00:24:47,902
Speaker 2: No, there's no way he would be doing what he's

631
00:24:47,942 --> 00:24:48,882
Speaker 2: doing if I had not. No.

632
00:24:49,871 --> 00:24:52,932
Speaker 1: A regular guitar? I don't even want credit. I would

633
00:24:52,952 --> 00:24:54,752
Speaker 1: never even mention it. This isn't something we would even

634
00:24:54,811 --> 00:24:55,412
Speaker 1: say out loud.

635
00:24:55,512 --> 00:24:55,672
Speaker 2: No.

636
00:24:56,032 --> 00:24:56,841
Speaker 1: No. Because.

637
00:24:57,422 --> 00:24:59,362
Speaker 2: Saying it on this show is almost not saying it

638
00:24:59,402 --> 00:25:02,062
Speaker 2: out loud. Wouldn't you say?

639
00:25:02,641 --> 00:25:03,672
Speaker 1: It's going....

640
00:25:04,542 --> 00:25:06,582
Speaker 2: You know what? Our downloads are up and our uploads

641
00:25:06,621 --> 00:25:06,922
Speaker 2: are down.

642
00:25:07,161 --> 00:25:07,622
Speaker 1: Come on now.

643
00:25:08,262 --> 00:25:10,902
Speaker 2: I want that for each. We do appreciate our new listeners, John.

644
00:25:11,661 --> 00:25:14,082
Speaker 2: How would you become a patron of the show?

645
00:25:14,202 --> 00:25:15,962
Speaker 1: You go to talkaboutthatpodcast.com.

646
00:25:16,061 --> 00:25:17,832
Speaker 2: That's how you get ad-free content. If you click on

647
00:25:17,851 --> 00:25:19,932
Speaker 2: that upper right-hand link, that's how you support the show.

648
00:25:19,972 --> 00:25:20,772
Speaker 2: We love our supporters.

649
00:25:20,792 --> 00:25:21,392
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

650
00:25:21,472 --> 00:25:23,571
Speaker 2: We need to do more for you guys, but we

651
00:25:23,612 --> 00:25:26,372
Speaker 2: want to say a special thank you. You didn't save

652
00:25:26,411 --> 00:25:27,772
Speaker 2: us from plumbing disasters.

653
00:25:27,891 --> 00:25:28,231
Speaker 1: No.

654
00:25:28,331 --> 00:25:30,031
Speaker 2: But you also didn't scam us and say that we

655
00:25:30,072 --> 00:25:30,622
Speaker 2: have jury duty.

656
00:25:30,902 --> 00:25:32,931
Speaker 1: You didn't give us a guitar. No. You know what

657
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Speaker 1: I'm saying? But that's okay. We didn't win any Grammys.

658
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Speaker 2: We don't need a guitar. We have guitars.

659
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Speaker 1: We have them already.

660
00:25:38,382 --> 00:25:41,562
Speaker 2: We have everything we possibly could need, except for maybe

661
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Speaker 2: more supporters. So spread the word that, A, there's a

662
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Speaker 2: jury duty scam.

663
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Speaker 1: Don't fall for it.

664
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Speaker 2: Don't do it. B, support the show at TalkAboutThatPodcast.com. Over

665
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Speaker 2: 300 archived episodes as well. John, it's time for your segment.

666
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Speaker 1: I think it's time.

667
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Speaker 2: It's way past time. John's quote of the week, we

668
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Speaker 2: call it, They Talk About That. I'll just hijack your intro.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Carl Jung. Spell J-U-M-G.

670
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Speaker 2: Jung.

671
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Speaker 1: He was Swiss.

672
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Speaker 2: Isn't that the different philosophies of modern psychotherapy? You're Jungian

673
00:26:28,342 --> 00:26:29,262
Speaker 2: or you are Freudian.

674
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

675
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Speaker 2: That's kind of where it goes, right?

676
00:26:31,181 --> 00:26:31,802
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're kind of.

677
00:26:32,322 --> 00:26:35,721
Speaker 2: uh, I think contemporaries, do I blame my mother or

678
00:26:35,742 --> 00:26:36,522
Speaker 2: do I blame myself?

679
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Speaker 1: Or what is that? What's Jungian? Okay. Anyway, the quote

680
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Speaker 1: will tell me probably all I need to know.

681
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Speaker 2: Okay.

682
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Speaker 1: Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your

683
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Speaker 1: life and you will call it fate. Oh, wow. That's

684
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Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah. So, yeah.

685
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Speaker 2: So he's the big deal about like your conscious, like

686
00:26:52,092 --> 00:26:54,792
Speaker 2: the things you're consciously doing and unconsciously doing, like are

687
00:26:54,931 --> 00:26:56,881
Speaker 2: determining the course of your life and you got to

688
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Speaker 2: unlock that stuff.

689
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think self-awareness is one of those, um, It's

690
00:27:02,592 --> 00:27:05,931
Speaker 1: a double-edged sword, right? Because you can become so, what

691
00:27:05,952 --> 00:27:08,692
Speaker 1: do they call it, introspective, navel-gazing, right? You spend your

692
00:27:08,712 --> 00:27:11,891
Speaker 1: time staring at things. It's like crippling. Right. But at

693
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Speaker 1: the same time, and I believe it was Calvin, John Calvin,

694
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Speaker 1: who basically said, without knowledge of self, there is no

695
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Speaker 1: knowledge of God. Yeah. But without knowledge of God, there

696
00:27:23,942 --> 00:27:26,622
Speaker 1: is no knowledge of self. Yeah. And so, like, this

697
00:27:26,722 --> 00:27:31,772
Speaker 1: idea of self-awareness within the sphere of faith gives you this,

698
00:27:31,811 --> 00:27:34,102
Speaker 1: and I even talk about this, it gives you something

699
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Speaker 1: to do with this idea, to me at least. I

700
00:27:36,822 --> 00:27:40,342
Speaker 1: always talk about self-control being one of the fruits of

701
00:27:40,382 --> 00:27:42,402
Speaker 1: the Spirit. So like the Spirit giving you something, and

702
00:27:42,442 --> 00:27:43,762
Speaker 1: one of the things He gives you is your ability

703
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Speaker 1: to give yourself control. I mean, so it's an interesting

704
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Speaker 1: idea to me about self-knowledge. You know, I see a therapist,

705
00:27:50,252 --> 00:27:52,011
Speaker 1: I know if you've got your bingo card, all the

706
00:27:52,032 --> 00:27:55,272
Speaker 1: stuff here, right? I see a therapist, I've studied the Enneagram,

707
00:27:55,532 --> 00:27:58,892
Speaker 1: I've done 12-step recovery, all those things. And I told

708
00:27:58,911 --> 00:28:01,052
Speaker 1: you even today at lunch, like none of those things...

709
00:28:01,661 --> 00:28:03,162
Speaker 1: like fixed everything. Right.

710
00:28:03,641 --> 00:28:03,841
Speaker 2: Right.

711
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Speaker 1: There are moments where you feel like, wow, I've really

712
00:28:05,982 --> 00:28:08,782
Speaker 1: made a step and there's always been, there's no bottom

713
00:28:09,061 --> 00:28:11,292
Speaker 1: to self. There's no bottom like, well, okay, this is

714
00:28:11,331 --> 00:28:16,552
Speaker 1: all done. But those tools to be able to be like, hey,

715
00:28:17,972 --> 00:28:20,932
Speaker 1: do I know what I'm doing? One, forget the why.

716
00:28:20,952 --> 00:28:22,552
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we don't even know what we're doing.

717
00:28:24,012 --> 00:28:26,432
Speaker 2: People, people don't fall into a pattern or whatever.

718
00:28:26,851 --> 00:28:30,491
Speaker 1: You don't recognize the things or how it's affecting. But

719
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Speaker 1: to know then, why I am doing it. And one

720
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Speaker 1: of the things that really speaks to me is internal

721
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Speaker 1: family systems. And there's a great, there's a book I

722
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Speaker 1: wrote with Jeff and Beth McCord called more than your number.

723
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Speaker 1: And they apply internal family systems to the Enneagram where

724
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Speaker 1: you develop your, your internal, your Enneagram internal profile that

725
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Speaker 1: you can kind of understand that there's different types based

726
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Speaker 1: upon your, your primary type. But this idea of, I

727
00:29:01,472 --> 00:29:05,352
Speaker 1: have parts. I'm complex. I'm not just one thing. And

728
00:29:05,372 --> 00:29:08,272
Speaker 1: that's really important when shame is a problem. Because I

729
00:29:08,342 --> 00:29:09,602
Speaker 1: think what we want to do is we want to

730
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Speaker 1: assume the problem is me. And that's not, I believe,

731
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Speaker 1: what the kind of self-awareness is that's good. If you

732
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Speaker 1: come away with, of course the problem is you, right?

733
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Speaker 1: I mean, we understand I'm the common denominator of every

734
00:29:20,082 --> 00:29:22,662
Speaker 1: problem in life. And from a grace perspective, I can

735
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Speaker 1: say I'm the problem without falling into such a shame

736
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Speaker 1: or such a crushing blow that I don't want to

737
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Speaker 1: try anymore because what's the point? That's Christ's nose on

738
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Speaker 1: the problem, paid for the problem. Now I'm restored and

739
00:29:34,452 --> 00:29:36,562
Speaker 1: I can begin to deal with the problem without the

740
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Speaker 1: shame of being a hundred percent paying the price for

741
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Speaker 1: the problem. Um, I mean, that's the gospel in a nutshell,

742
00:29:43,282 --> 00:29:46,862
Speaker 1: but the idea that I'm complex and that, that, that

743
00:29:46,882 --> 00:29:50,572
Speaker 1: there are things within me happening related to circumstance that

744
00:29:50,612 --> 00:29:53,732
Speaker 1: are related to experience, maybe related to, and this is

745
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Speaker 1: a hard word, I would say little T trauma, right.

746
00:29:57,032 --> 00:30:00,172
Speaker 1: Or big T trauma. Um, And I know everybody wants

747
00:30:00,192 --> 00:30:02,392
Speaker 1: to call everything trauma now, and I know there's a

748
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Speaker 1: little bit of backlash to all the therapy language that

749
00:30:04,582 --> 00:30:07,182
Speaker 1: I think probably is well-deserved in places. Well, yeah, because some.

750
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Speaker 2: People have just weaponized it for years, and so now

751
00:30:10,282 --> 00:30:12,701
Speaker 2: it's like the pendulum's kind of going the other way.

752
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Speaker 2: But I hope it doesn't keep people from seeking help

753
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Speaker 2: that they need for true trauma.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think good therapy and self-awareness leads

755
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Speaker 1: you to want to change and it leads you to

756
00:30:24,732 --> 00:30:28,232
Speaker 1: want to own the only things that you can. Right.

757
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the serenity prayer, right? I have to

758
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Speaker 1: know what I can do and what I can not. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's interesting too, that like, We who believe

760
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Speaker 2: in that God created us and that we're so complex

761
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Speaker 2: physically and, you know, when, you know, physiologists will say

762
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Speaker 2: that there's so many millions of things going on inside

763
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Speaker 2: one human cell or whatever. We go, oh, this is

764
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Speaker 2: how intricate the system that God made. But when it

765
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Speaker 2: comes to our minds, we tend to not think about

766
00:31:01,082 --> 00:31:03,842
Speaker 2: that as complex. We want it to be simple. We

767
00:31:03,882 --> 00:31:08,772
Speaker 2: just go, hey, suck it up. Yeah. hey, don't be

768
00:31:08,792 --> 00:31:11,432
Speaker 2: somebody that just blames. Don't have a victim mentality. You go, no,

769
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Speaker 2: I've experienced a lot of this and it feels like

770
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Speaker 2: I can't get over this.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're just, I don't know. I don't know if

772
00:31:17,762 --> 00:31:18,442
Speaker 1: we can work with this.

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Speaker 2: We don't allow for that same level of complexity when

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00:31:21,822 --> 00:31:24,562
Speaker 2: it comes to people's mental stuff. And so I think

775
00:31:24,602 --> 00:31:26,842
Speaker 2: the church has got a ways to go with that

776
00:31:26,902 --> 00:31:30,352
Speaker 2: stuff as far as wrapping our head around. No, people

777
00:31:30,772 --> 00:31:33,411
Speaker 2: are super different in the way they approach life and

778
00:31:33,431 --> 00:31:36,961
Speaker 2: the way that like you said, the way their family

779
00:31:37,022 --> 00:31:38,982
Speaker 2: raised them, that can affect things. But just the way

780
00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:41,372
Speaker 2: we look at the world, so different than each other.

781
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Speaker 2: And we got to accept that and we got to

782
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Speaker 2: make allowances for it as much as we can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think do the work. And I do

784
00:31:48,472 --> 00:31:51,872
Speaker 1: like that expression. If you're, I think if, if those

785
00:31:51,931 --> 00:31:54,512
Speaker 1: therapeutic things, if, if you're trying to make the unconscious conscious,

786
00:31:54,612 --> 00:31:56,972
Speaker 1: then you will see it as a good kind of work.

787
00:31:57,402 --> 00:31:59,542
Speaker 1: And I love the idea that I don't just want

788
00:31:59,582 --> 00:32:02,122
Speaker 1: to act like the world's happening to me. The world

789
00:32:02,181 --> 00:32:05,222
Speaker 1: is happening to me, but I'm also happening to the world.

790
00:32:06,072 --> 00:32:10,471
Speaker 1: and I can't necessarily control how the world happens to me,

791
00:32:10,812 --> 00:32:14,402
Speaker 1: but I can control some aspects of how I happen

792
00:32:14,442 --> 00:32:16,761
Speaker 1: to the world, of how I show up to it.

793
00:32:18,262 --> 00:32:20,642
Speaker 1: And when I, because I do, I think we all

794
00:32:20,681 --> 00:32:24,501
Speaker 1: fall into victim mentality. There are those, listen, anybody who's crying,

795
00:32:24,642 --> 00:32:28,232
Speaker 1: don't be a victim, like, you'll find something in their

796
00:32:28,272 --> 00:32:31,552
Speaker 1: life where you could touch one little tiny button and

797
00:32:31,592 --> 00:32:34,152
Speaker 1: they would cry, this is unjust or whatever. And so,

798
00:32:34,172 --> 00:32:37,372
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody has that feeling somewhere, uh, whether they're

799
00:32:37,411 --> 00:32:39,492
Speaker 1: aware of it again, to the point of Carl Jung,

800
00:32:39,892 --> 00:32:42,832
Speaker 1: whether you're aware of it or not. But if, if

801
00:32:42,872 --> 00:32:45,531
Speaker 1: that awareness leads me to say, okay, I, I want

802
00:32:45,552 --> 00:32:48,712
Speaker 1: to show up differently. I want to think differently. And

803
00:32:48,842 --> 00:32:50,882
Speaker 1: we'd said that a lot in not so black and white. Um,

804
00:32:51,661 --> 00:32:53,662
Speaker 1: that we didn't really talk just about all the stuff

805
00:32:53,681 --> 00:32:56,122
Speaker 1: that was happening with racism. We really talked about whether

806
00:32:56,161 --> 00:32:59,262
Speaker 1: or not the gospel calls you to be willing to

807
00:32:59,332 --> 00:33:03,712
Speaker 1: change the way that you think about things. And that's

808
00:33:03,752 --> 00:33:06,492
Speaker 1: what the Bible says. Don't be conformed to the world,

809
00:33:06,532 --> 00:33:11,191
Speaker 1: but be renewed in the spirit of your mind. And NLT,

810
00:33:11,232 --> 00:33:15,052
Speaker 1: I think, says let God change you by transforming the

811
00:33:15,092 --> 00:33:17,302
Speaker 1: way you think. I'm not quoting that word for you. Yeah, no,

812
00:33:17,342 --> 00:33:17,642
Speaker 1: it's good.

813
00:33:18,181 --> 00:33:20,282
Speaker 2: I do think it's interesting, too, that like John Calvin

814
00:33:20,302 --> 00:33:23,922
Speaker 2: had a quote like that about knowing yourself, whereas it

815
00:33:23,942 --> 00:33:27,182
Speaker 2: almost feels like we're through the looking glass today where

816
00:33:27,922 --> 00:33:30,362
Speaker 2: if some preacher said that now, we'd be like, oh,

817
00:33:30,402 --> 00:33:35,102
Speaker 2: here we go with this humanism. It's like, no, like C.S.

818
00:33:35,161 --> 00:33:36,502
Speaker 1: Lewis. Oh, yeah.

819
00:33:36,922 --> 00:33:41,112
Speaker 2: You know, all these guys were about like understanding yourself

820
00:33:41,242 --> 00:33:44,572
Speaker 2: is a part of understanding the gospel. Like it's okay

821
00:33:44,592 --> 00:33:48,122
Speaker 2: to look at ourselves. Self-care is okay, you guys. It's

822
00:33:48,181 --> 00:33:55,032
Speaker 2: not wrong. I think there's an idea of self-preservation when

823
00:33:55,092 --> 00:33:57,372
Speaker 2: it gets in the way of the gospel. Okay, I'll

824
00:33:57,411 --> 00:33:59,852
Speaker 2: give you that. We're supposed to be philanthropic. We're supposed

825
00:33:59,892 --> 00:34:02,532
Speaker 2: to lay down our lives. But this idea that I

826
00:34:02,602 --> 00:34:05,562
Speaker 2: have to just fall on my sword every day, and

827
00:34:05,582 --> 00:34:08,181
Speaker 2: this is what being a good soldier of the cross means.

828
00:34:08,362 --> 00:34:11,381
Speaker 2: I just don't know that that's necessarily what we're called to.

829
00:34:11,402 --> 00:34:12,872
Speaker 2: An unhealthy, toxic way.

830
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Speaker 1: If you think about it, if a lot of the

831
00:34:15,342 --> 00:34:17,582
Speaker 1: gospel narrative, right, we hear in the modern age, church

832
00:34:17,622 --> 00:34:21,221
Speaker 1: narrative would be self-denial, right, is the key. Yeah. And

833
00:34:21,262 --> 00:34:24,201
Speaker 1: I would argue, I would agree. And I would also

834
00:34:24,302 --> 00:34:27,722
Speaker 1: argue the more of yourself that you actually understand and know,

835
00:34:28,122 --> 00:34:30,872
Speaker 1: then you know when you're denying, the more you're able

836
00:34:30,911 --> 00:34:33,752
Speaker 1: to deny. Like I'm able now to go, okay, I

837
00:34:33,812 --> 00:34:36,032
Speaker 1: know why this triggers me and I'm still choosing a different,

838
00:34:36,292 --> 00:34:38,312
Speaker 1: as opposed to, I don't know why this triggers, this

839
00:34:38,332 --> 00:34:40,372
Speaker 1: just sucks and I'm just going to do it or

840
00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:42,382
Speaker 1: not do it. Like the more that I know, the

841
00:34:42,422 --> 00:34:44,582
Speaker 1: more I can direct those things. But if you don't

842
00:34:44,602 --> 00:34:47,142
Speaker 1: really know yourself, then you're going to be limited in

843
00:34:47,182 --> 00:34:49,922
Speaker 1: how much you can deny because you don't understand what

844
00:34:49,942 --> 00:34:53,262
Speaker 1: you're denying. You'll still have reactive tendencies as opposed to

845
00:34:53,322 --> 00:34:57,192
Speaker 1: proactive tendencies. You'll still be, you know, constantly, well, I

846
00:34:57,232 --> 00:34:58,692
Speaker 1: hate to use the word, but you're a victim to

847
00:34:58,752 --> 00:35:01,532
Speaker 1: what happens to you. And as opposed to going, okay,

848
00:35:01,752 --> 00:35:05,832
Speaker 1: I know what's controlling, but now I have some empowerment here.

849
00:35:05,852 --> 00:35:09,201
Speaker 1: And I think in the gospel, a humble empowerment, right?

850
00:35:09,522 --> 00:35:12,642
Speaker 1: To know my limitations. To know your limitations is power. Yeah.

851
00:35:12,942 --> 00:35:13,122
Speaker 2: Right?

852
00:35:14,522 --> 00:35:18,102
Speaker 1: The best boxers are the ones. They're not always the strongest. Right.

853
00:35:18,122 --> 00:35:20,542
Speaker 1: They know if I'm smaller, but I'm faster, I know

854
00:35:20,562 --> 00:35:22,752
Speaker 1: my limitations. I'm not going to let this dude's right

855
00:35:22,812 --> 00:35:26,392
Speaker 1: hook take me out. I'm going to know my limitations

856
00:35:26,432 --> 00:35:28,252
Speaker 1: are giving me the power to stay in this fight

857
00:35:28,572 --> 00:35:29,832
Speaker 1: because I'm aware of them.

858
00:35:30,472 --> 00:35:32,552
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

859
00:35:32,772 --> 00:35:34,212
Speaker 1: I think we did it. I think we fixed it.

860
00:35:34,902 --> 00:35:36,872
Speaker 1: I thought we did it last time, but apparently there

861
00:35:36,892 --> 00:35:37,372
Speaker 1: was more.

862
00:35:37,592 --> 00:35:39,632
Speaker 2: All we need now is people who will lay down

863
00:35:39,692 --> 00:35:43,712
Speaker 2: their lives in a civic duty that we call jury duty.

864
00:35:43,832 --> 00:35:45,692
Speaker 1: It's time. Guys, don't.

865
00:35:45,932 --> 00:35:49,902
Speaker 2: Listen, if you get a summons, first of all, if

866
00:35:49,922 --> 00:35:53,322
Speaker 2: you sign it, please remember that you signed it. If

867
00:35:53,342 --> 00:35:56,462
Speaker 2: you didn't sign it and you get a phone call,

868
00:35:57,882 --> 00:35:59,542
Speaker 2: don't take that phone call. If you signed it, that

869
00:35:59,562 --> 00:36:00,692
Speaker 2: means you mailed it back in.

870
00:36:01,012 --> 00:36:02,812
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, when's the last time you signed something

871
00:36:02,832 --> 00:36:04,302
Speaker 1: and mailed it off? It's been.

872
00:36:04,382 --> 00:36:06,002
Speaker 2: It's been a minute. I guess it's been a couple

873
00:36:06,022 --> 00:36:08,272
Speaker 2: months because that's what this guy said. He wouldn't... He's

874
00:36:08,312 --> 00:36:08,911
Speaker 2: no reason to lie.

875
00:36:08,932 --> 00:36:10,692
Speaker 1: That's one thing I said. Ask him what the date was.

876
00:36:10,752 --> 00:36:12,632
Speaker 1: What's the date? You were yelling. Yeah, I know. I was.

877
00:36:12,912 --> 00:36:14,532
Speaker 2: John was giving me all the... He was feeding me.

878
00:36:14,532 --> 00:36:16,712
Speaker 1: I was mad, guys. You did not want to mess.

879
00:36:16,752 --> 00:36:19,182
Speaker 2: You did not. You were my Johnny Cochran. I appreciate it.

880
00:36:19,212 --> 00:36:21,172
Speaker 2: You were there for me in a big way. John,

881
00:36:21,192 --> 00:36:23,661
Speaker 2: let's do my segments. First one's Johnny's old jokes. We

882
00:36:23,702 --> 00:36:32,102
Speaker 2: call it Joke About That. John, a couple turned up

883
00:36:32,142 --> 00:36:33,122
Speaker 2: at a fancy dress party.

884
00:36:33,162 --> 00:36:33,422
Speaker 1: The man.

885
00:36:34,022 --> 00:36:37,032
Speaker 2: giving the girl a piggyback. The man's face was painted

886
00:36:37,052 --> 00:36:39,032
Speaker 2: green and he had a red mask over his eyes.

887
00:36:39,112 --> 00:36:40,192
Speaker 2: So what have you come as?

888
00:36:40,412 --> 00:36:40,911
Speaker 1: Asked the host.

889
00:36:41,052 --> 00:36:43,332
Speaker 2: I'm one of the teenage mutant Ninja turtles, said the man.

890
00:36:43,512 --> 00:36:46,212
Speaker 2: And what about her? Asked the host, indicating the girl.

891
00:36:46,892 --> 00:36:54,942
Speaker 1: That's Michelle. That's Michelle. Okay. I'm sorry. I apologize for

892
00:36:54,962 --> 00:36:55,242
Speaker 1: that one.

893
00:36:55,542 --> 00:36:59,042
Speaker 2: Uh, an insurance salesman is fitting, visiting a remote farmstead.

894
00:36:59,122 --> 00:37:01,682
Speaker 2: I love when people go to farmsteads in jokes, you know,

895
00:37:01,702 --> 00:37:04,302
Speaker 2: there's always the farmer's daughter trope. There's, You meet an

896
00:37:04,342 --> 00:37:06,182
Speaker 2: old farmer. He's working on a truck. He teaches you

897
00:37:06,202 --> 00:37:08,582
Speaker 2: something about life. The city slickers always kind of best

898
00:37:08,662 --> 00:37:11,502
Speaker 2: it in a way. So a lot of good street

899
00:37:11,542 --> 00:37:14,122
Speaker 2: jokes and old jokes start in a farmstead. An insured

900
00:37:14,142 --> 00:37:16,882
Speaker 2: salesman's visiting a remote farmstead, John. He parks at the

901
00:37:16,902 --> 00:37:18,322
Speaker 2: foot of the driveway and walks up to the house

902
00:37:18,342 --> 00:37:19,942
Speaker 2: to find an old Labrador lying on the porch. As

903
00:37:19,982 --> 00:37:22,322
Speaker 2: he tries to step over it, it speaks. Watch where

904
00:37:22,342 --> 00:37:24,982
Speaker 2: you're stepping, buddy. The salesman almost faints with shock. You

905
00:37:25,002 --> 00:37:27,322
Speaker 2: can talk? Yeah, sure, says the dog. I've made a

906
00:37:27,362 --> 00:37:29,402
Speaker 2: pretty good career out of it. Intrigued, the salesman asks

907
00:37:29,422 --> 00:37:31,102
Speaker 2: to hear more. Well, says the dog, it all began

908
00:37:31,142 --> 00:37:34,482
Speaker 2: in 81... My owner found out about this gift I had.

909
00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:36,462
Speaker 2: It turned me into a traveling sideshow. Of course, all

910
00:37:36,482 --> 00:37:38,182
Speaker 2: I had to do was simple skits, a few words,

911
00:37:38,202 --> 00:37:39,642
Speaker 2: a couple of jokes. It was pretty beneath me.

912
00:37:40,322 --> 00:37:40,902
Speaker 1: But it paid well.

913
00:37:41,022 --> 00:37:43,661
Speaker 2: Then I was spotted by some government types and got

914
00:37:43,682 --> 00:37:46,402
Speaker 2: recruited by the CIA. They taught me to speak Russian,

915
00:37:46,442 --> 00:37:48,702
Speaker 2: and I was infiltrated into the secret bases all over

916
00:37:48,762 --> 00:37:51,102
Speaker 2: the Soviet Union. I mean, who's going to suspect a dog, right?

917
00:37:52,062 --> 00:37:55,411
Speaker 2: I was the most effective source of intelligence throughout the Union.

918
00:37:57,512 --> 00:38:00,812
Speaker 2: The entire Cold War hinged on this. I can't tell

919
00:38:00,832 --> 00:38:03,681
Speaker 2: you how many times I saved the world with my

920
00:38:04,462 --> 00:38:07,742
Speaker 2: timely intel. After the Cold War ended, I got moved

921
00:38:07,762 --> 00:38:11,642
Speaker 2: to the FBI, rooting out terrorist cells. Same gig, different

922
00:38:11,662 --> 00:38:13,862
Speaker 2: bad guys. In the end, after becoming the FBI's most

923
00:38:13,922 --> 00:38:16,772
Speaker 2: decorated agent, I was retired. I had my pick of

924
00:38:16,792 --> 00:38:18,712
Speaker 2: the lady dogs as they tried to breed a successor

925
00:38:18,732 --> 00:38:20,942
Speaker 2: with my gift, but I guess I'm just unique, so

926
00:38:20,962 --> 00:38:23,392
Speaker 2: I ended up in retirement here, filling my days in

927
00:38:23,472 --> 00:38:27,991
Speaker 2: comfort and peace. The salesman practically bursting at this. Just then,

928
00:38:28,792 --> 00:38:30,992
Speaker 2: the farmer emerges from the farmhouse, How much do you

929
00:38:31,032 --> 00:38:33,262
Speaker 2: want for this incredible dog, yells the salesman. I'll pay

930
00:38:33,362 --> 00:38:35,702
Speaker 2: any price, the farmer spits. You can have him for nothing.

931
00:38:36,322 --> 00:38:38,662
Speaker 2: The salesman's even more flabbergasted. How can you give away

932
00:38:38,742 --> 00:38:41,122
Speaker 2: such an incredible animal, a talking dog with such an

933
00:38:41,162 --> 00:38:44,482
Speaker 2: amazing story? The farmer laughs, because he's a dang liar.

934
00:38:44,802 --> 00:38:46,142
Speaker 2: He ain't never did any of that stuff.

935
00:38:47,142 --> 00:38:49,592
Speaker 1: That's a great joke.

936
00:38:50,072 --> 00:38:54,212
Speaker 2: That's a great, yeah, that's a funny one. John, let's

937
00:38:54,272 --> 00:38:56,752
Speaker 2: do my final segment. We always wrap it up with

938
00:38:56,812 --> 00:39:04,672
Speaker 2: this week in history. We call it Talk About Then. John,

939
00:39:04,772 --> 00:39:11,532
Speaker 2: this week in 1946, the Central Intelligence Group is established

940
00:39:11,552 --> 00:39:14,072
Speaker 2: by U.S. President, John, 46?

941
00:39:14,072 --> 00:39:16,862
Speaker 1: 46, Truman. Harry S.

942
00:39:16,972 --> 00:39:20,652
Speaker 2: Truman. This was later replaced by the Central Intelligence Agency,

943
00:39:20,692 --> 00:39:24,002
Speaker 2: the CIA. Two days later, though, Truman gave staff members

944
00:39:24,062 --> 00:39:28,082
Speaker 2: black cloaks, black hats, and wooden daggers, calling them a

945
00:39:28,162 --> 00:39:32,142
Speaker 2: cloak-and-dagger group of snoopers. So is that where we get

946
00:39:32,182 --> 00:39:33,712
Speaker 2: the cloak and dagger? Or was he just being like,

947
00:39:33,772 --> 00:39:35,092
Speaker 2: I know it's called cloak and dagger. I'm going to

948
00:39:35,132 --> 00:39:36,792
Speaker 2: give you actual cloaks and daggers. Which came first?

949
00:39:36,912 --> 00:39:38,552
Speaker 1: The cloak or the dagger. The cloak or the egg.

950
00:39:39,772 --> 00:39:45,272
Speaker 2: John, this week, 1973, George Foreman won the title. He

951
00:39:45,292 --> 00:39:47,772
Speaker 2: won his first heavyweight title match by stopping Joe Frazier

952
00:39:47,792 --> 00:39:49,792
Speaker 2: with a second round knockout. I always think this is funny.

953
00:39:49,812 --> 00:39:52,252
Speaker 2: And my buddy, Mike Goodwin, who's a comedian, does a

954
00:39:52,272 --> 00:39:55,892
Speaker 2: bit about this, about how kids know people from our

955
00:39:56,652 --> 00:39:58,472
Speaker 2: childhood for different things.

956
00:39:58,672 --> 00:40:01,192
Speaker 1: Like if you go on to live in celebrity culture. Right.

957
00:40:02,012 --> 00:40:04,722
Speaker 2: He'll talk about what a bad man Shaquille O'Neal was.

958
00:40:04,782 --> 00:40:06,532
Speaker 2: Shaq was a bad man. You never want to mess

959
00:40:06,552 --> 00:40:08,362
Speaker 2: with Shaq. And his kid will be like, the Papa

960
00:40:08,402 --> 00:40:11,442
Speaker 2: John's guy you know so like George Foreman's one of

961
00:40:11,482 --> 00:40:14,462
Speaker 2: those guys like one of the hardest punchers ever and

962
00:40:14,502 --> 00:40:16,642
Speaker 2: yet he's known for the grill for the grill he's

963
00:40:16,682 --> 00:40:20,181
Speaker 2: known for like standing there in an apron talking about

964
00:40:20,232 --> 00:40:21,482
Speaker 2: how the fat drains right.

965
00:40:21,332 --> 00:40:23,451
Speaker 1: Off burning Michael Scott's foot literally made.

966
00:40:23,392 --> 00:40:25,712
Speaker 2: It out of the office yeah he burned Michael Scott's

967
00:40:25,752 --> 00:40:30,822
Speaker 2: foot John, this week, 1977, the TV miniseries Roots began

968
00:40:30,882 --> 00:40:35,592
Speaker 2: airing on ABC for eight consecutive nights. The story of

969
00:40:35,652 --> 00:40:38,852
Speaker 2: Kunta Kinte, LeVar Burton, and his descendants. This is why

970
00:40:38,872 --> 00:40:41,772
Speaker 2: I put it on the list. It drew 130 million

971
00:40:41,812 --> 00:40:44,172
Speaker 2: viewers for its conclusion, making it the highest rated TV

972
00:40:44,212 --> 00:40:47,392
Speaker 2: program up to that time. The series received 37 Primetime

973
00:40:47,432 --> 00:40:50,951
Speaker 2: Emmy Award nominations. Winning nine, it is considered the first

974
00:40:51,032 --> 00:40:54,772
Speaker 2: blockbuster miniseries. Miniseries were a big deal. Now, I guess

975
00:40:54,792 --> 00:40:56,822
Speaker 2: you would just do a Netflix... you would call it

976
00:40:56,842 --> 00:40:58,882
Speaker 2: a limited series or you'd have like a season. Right.

977
00:40:59,182 --> 00:41:01,282
Speaker 2: But miniseries is like a tune in next week for

978
00:41:01,302 --> 00:41:03,822
Speaker 2: the next, you know, little snippet of this. And you'd

979
00:41:03,862 --> 00:41:05,442
Speaker 2: have to like, hold on.

980
00:41:05,682 --> 00:41:06,802
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

981
00:41:06,922 --> 00:41:09,042
Speaker 2: And 130 million. Can you, I just started thinking like,

982
00:41:09,282 --> 00:41:11,972
Speaker 2: when is the last thing that 130 million people.

983
00:41:11,792 --> 00:41:14,752
Speaker 1: Did at the same time? Like a Superbowl or something.

984
00:41:14,892 --> 00:41:16,392
Speaker 2: Yeah. That would probably be it. And even then, I

985
00:41:16,392 --> 00:41:18,132
Speaker 2: don't know if it's, is it 130 million for this?

986
00:41:18,152 --> 00:41:19,792
Speaker 2: I don't know what Superbowl gets as far.

987
00:41:19,692 --> 00:41:22,292
Speaker 1: As our rating, but I usually get, they give me reports,

988
00:41:22,352 --> 00:41:24,492
Speaker 1: but I, you don't get them anymore. I'm sorry. The Nielsen.

989
00:41:25,802 --> 00:41:29,042
Speaker 2: John, this week, 1983, speaking of TV, the TV show

990
00:41:29,522 --> 00:41:32,902
Speaker 2: The A-Team debuted on NBC. The show was about four

991
00:41:32,942 --> 00:41:35,852
Speaker 2: members of a fictitious United States Army Special Forces unit

992
00:41:36,452 --> 00:41:37,852
Speaker 2: who were tried and convicted for a crime.

993
00:41:37,892 --> 00:41:38,832
Speaker 1: Wait, they were fictitious?

994
00:41:39,472 --> 00:41:44,032
Speaker 2: They had not committed. They escaped, like a avoiding jury duty.

995
00:41:44,052 --> 00:41:47,962
Speaker 2: They escaped and began working as soldiers of fortune, which

996
00:41:48,022 --> 00:41:50,302
Speaker 2: is illegal, while trying.

997
00:41:50,502 --> 00:41:51,622
Speaker 1: We didn't do the thing.

998
00:41:51,682 --> 00:41:54,502
Speaker 2: We're mercenaries now. We're mercenaries and do all these weird things.

999
00:41:54,882 --> 00:41:57,352
Speaker 1: But they're always helping people. Well, that we know of.

1000
00:41:57,782 --> 00:42:00,042
Speaker 2: While still trying to clear their names and avoid capture

1001
00:42:00,062 --> 00:42:03,442
Speaker 2: by law enforcement and military authorities. The team consisted of

1002
00:42:03,522 --> 00:42:08,392
Speaker 2: John Hannibal Smith, Face Man, Dirk Benedict, who's the good-looking,

1003
00:42:09,332 --> 00:42:12,832
Speaker 2: slick guy. Howlin' Mad Murdoch, a crazy person.

1004
00:42:14,132 --> 00:42:15,672
Speaker 1: And the team's strong man, B.A.

1005
00:42:16,212 --> 00:42:20,132
Speaker 2: Baracus, Mr. T. This was, I don't know, this was

1006
00:42:20,172 --> 00:42:21,931
Speaker 2: a golden age of television. And maybe it's just because

1007
00:42:21,972 --> 00:42:22,261
Speaker 2: I was.

1008
00:42:22,202 --> 00:42:22,712
Speaker 1: A kid then.

1009
00:42:23,212 --> 00:42:25,532
Speaker 2: But it feels like you had something.

1010
00:42:25,732 --> 00:42:29,872
Speaker 1: The van would just jump. Mr. T driving the van.

1011
00:42:30,352 --> 00:42:33,142
Speaker 1: And they always would end up in a warehouse somewhere

1012
00:42:33,382 --> 00:42:36,402
Speaker 1: that happened to just have all this like welding equipment

1013
00:42:36,482 --> 00:42:38,542
Speaker 1: and stuff. And the guys are on their way to

1014
00:42:38,582 --> 00:42:40,602
Speaker 1: kill them, but it's a good thing we held up

1015
00:42:40,682 --> 00:42:43,681
Speaker 1: in this warehouse completely stocked with everything we need right

1016
00:42:43,702 --> 00:42:45,062
Speaker 1: now to make a tank or whatever.

1017
00:42:45,082 --> 00:42:48,372
Speaker 2: They play some inspirational music montage while they just build.

1018
00:42:48,632 --> 00:42:51,431
Speaker 2: It's basically Iron Man. Remember, the plot of Iron Man

1019
00:42:51,492 --> 00:42:53,792
Speaker 2: is basically an episode of the A-Team because he's trapped

1020
00:42:53,812 --> 00:42:56,272
Speaker 2: in a cave, but he's got all the stuff to

1021
00:42:56,332 --> 00:42:57,552
Speaker 2: fix his heart somehow.

1022
00:42:58,672 --> 00:43:00,812
Speaker 1: Guys, here's the thing. You can't fix your own heart. No.

1023
00:43:01,352 --> 00:43:03,592
Speaker 1: But you know what you can do? What's that? Weld

1024
00:43:03,632 --> 00:43:04,372
Speaker 1: a metal suit.

1025
00:43:05,332 --> 00:43:05,532
Speaker 2: Wait.

1026
00:43:05,552 --> 00:43:05,991
Speaker 1: Wait a minute.

1027
00:43:06,562 --> 00:43:07,902
Speaker 2: Some of y'all are in a cave right now.

1028
00:43:08,162 --> 00:43:10,922
Speaker 1: Some of y'all. Need to come out. Come out of

1029
00:43:10,942 --> 00:43:11,322
Speaker 1: the cave.

1030
00:43:11,982 --> 00:43:14,642
Speaker 2: Some of y'all are afraid to fly like B.A., but

1031
00:43:14,662 --> 00:43:16,402
Speaker 2: you need to not be afraid because what's going to

1032
00:43:16,442 --> 00:43:19,122
Speaker 2: happen is Hannibal's going to put drugs in your milk,

1033
00:43:19,872 --> 00:43:20,852
Speaker 2: and you're just going to be on.

1034
00:43:20,752 --> 00:43:24,432
Speaker 1: The plane with Jesus. That's not. Listen.

1035
00:43:24,692 --> 00:43:25,612
Speaker 2: I've gotten off my notes.

1036
00:43:25,692 --> 00:43:27,272
Speaker 1: God loves it when a plan comes together.

1037
00:43:27,292 --> 00:43:27,912
Speaker 2: He does.

1038
00:43:28,152 --> 00:43:31,232
Speaker 1: The plan he had for you. Oh, man, he does. Okay, John, finally.

1039
00:43:31,572 --> 00:43:38,592
Speaker 2: Born this week, 1920, Fred Morrison. inventor of the frisbee.

1040
00:43:39,252 --> 00:43:39,372
Speaker 1: Oh.

1041
00:43:39,752 --> 00:43:43,991
Speaker 2: He invented the frisbee in 1937, so he would have

1042
00:43:44,092 --> 00:43:47,132
Speaker 2: been 17. He got the idea when someone offered to

1043
00:43:47,192 --> 00:43:49,592
Speaker 2: buy the cake pan, he and his future wife were

1044
00:43:49,652 --> 00:43:51,212
Speaker 2: tossing back and forth at the beach.

1045
00:43:52,852 --> 00:43:53,032
Speaker 1: Huh.

1046
00:43:53,232 --> 00:43:54,512
Speaker 2: That's a great invention story.

1047
00:43:54,732 --> 00:43:58,292
Speaker 1: Yeah. You're just bored. First of all, you're at the ocean.

1048
00:43:58,492 --> 00:43:59,972
Speaker 2: You're like, ah, this is nothing.

1049
00:44:00,112 --> 00:44:01,112
Speaker 1: Throw this pie tin.

1050
00:44:01,172 --> 00:44:03,852
Speaker 2: Let's just throw a cake pan back and forth to

1051
00:44:03,872 --> 00:44:05,482
Speaker 2: each other like lunatics.

1052
00:44:05,502 --> 00:44:05,792
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1053
00:44:06,082 --> 00:44:07,562
Speaker 2: And then somebody offered to buy it. They're like, that

1054
00:44:07,582 --> 00:44:09,462
Speaker 2: looks like a lot of fun. He's like, actually, we've

1055
00:44:09,482 --> 00:44:12,072
Speaker 2: hit a lot of people in the head. We've caused

1056
00:44:12,112 --> 00:44:16,392
Speaker 2: many concussions. By the way, this is an interesting part

1057
00:44:16,412 --> 00:44:18,112
Speaker 2: of his story. He was also a prisoner of the

1058
00:44:18,172 --> 00:44:22,092
Speaker 2: infamous Stalag 13 in World War II. So this guy's

1059
00:44:22,132 --> 00:44:22,752
Speaker 2: a war hero.

1060
00:44:23,042 --> 00:44:26,762
Speaker 1: Interesting. This does take away my origin story, the Frisbee,

1061
00:44:26,802 --> 00:44:28,282
Speaker 1: which is from Back of the Future 3.

1062
00:44:28,282 --> 00:44:30,002
Speaker 2: Or is that what you thought?

1063
00:44:30,022 --> 00:44:33,422
Speaker 1: Or they're back in the 1880s. Yeah. Yeah. He throws

1064
00:44:33,442 --> 00:44:35,502
Speaker 1: the Frisbee and hits the guy in the hand right before.

1065
00:44:35,542 --> 00:44:37,862
Speaker 1: It was a pie tin. He picks it up. It's

1066
00:44:37,882 --> 00:44:40,042
Speaker 1: a Frisbee pie tin. He's like, Frisbee, huh? You know,

1067
00:44:40,082 --> 00:44:40,982
Speaker 1: one of those things.

1068
00:44:41,102 --> 00:44:42,942
Speaker 2: But it really was a pie tin from the original story.

1069
00:44:42,992 --> 00:44:43,971
Speaker 2: So I didn't like that.

1070
00:44:44,272 --> 00:44:46,072
Speaker 1: It just wasn't used to save Marty McFly. It wasn't

1071
00:44:46,092 --> 00:44:50,792
Speaker 1: Marty McFly. Or Doc. Doc. What's his last name? Doc's...

1072
00:44:52,132 --> 00:44:54,732
Speaker 1: I can't remember. What's his name? Johnny. I know. We

1073
00:44:54,772 --> 00:44:56,952
Speaker 1: stumped Johnny on a really major character.

1074
00:44:56,972 --> 00:44:57,352
Speaker 2: I know.

1075
00:44:57,752 --> 00:45:02,942
Speaker 1: Who's the actor? Christopher Lloyd. Okay. But I don't... Emmett. Emmett. Brown.

1076
00:45:03,122 --> 00:45:03,842
Speaker 2: Brown.

1077
00:45:03,862 --> 00:45:06,721
Speaker 1: Dr. Brown. Thank you. Our powers combined. We got there.

1078
00:45:06,862 --> 00:45:08,781
Speaker 1: I tell you what, why did I know the first name?

1079
00:45:09,162 --> 00:45:09,682
Speaker 1: That's okay.

1080
00:45:09,842 --> 00:45:12,122
Speaker 2: It's because in part three, he's Emmett because the Mary

1081
00:45:12,142 --> 00:45:14,742
Speaker 2: Steenburgen's character is in love with him. And she's like, Emmett.

1082
00:45:14,902 --> 00:45:17,042
Speaker 2: She's very, she's a very high pitched whiny.

1083
00:45:17,662 --> 00:45:20,442
Speaker 1: Well, timbre to her memory. She's in the elf and

1084
00:45:20,502 --> 00:45:23,862
Speaker 1: she sings at the end. Yes. And has that high pitched. Yeah.

1085
00:45:23,902 --> 00:45:25,862
Speaker 1: She's got, she knows my voice. She knows she can't

1086
00:45:25,902 --> 00:45:30,562
Speaker 1: sing and sing Santa Claus. She's a great character. Mary Steenburgen. Fantastic.

1087
00:45:30,662 --> 00:45:32,832
Speaker 2: And, uh, We don't have– she's not on the list today.

1088
00:45:32,892 --> 00:45:33,911
Speaker 2: It's not her birthday or anything.

1089
00:45:33,952 --> 00:45:34,632
Speaker 1: No, she's not a sponsor.

1090
00:45:34,652 --> 00:45:36,292
Speaker 2: We just want to recognize– not a sponsor. We just

1091
00:45:36,312 --> 00:45:39,412
Speaker 2: want to recognize her and say, you've missed jury duty.

1092
00:45:40,632 --> 00:45:43,692
Speaker 1: And please get– stop it. The Mesa County Sheriff is

1093
00:45:43,832 --> 00:45:46,952
Speaker 1: fastidiously flowing to your house right now in a line

1094
00:45:46,992 --> 00:45:51,392
Speaker 1: of cars, full emergency traffic. Yeah. Oh, well.

1095
00:45:51,572 --> 00:45:53,931
Speaker 2: Oh, well. By the way, somebody said this the other day.

1096
00:45:54,022 --> 00:45:55,982
Speaker 2: At the end of Back to the Future 1, when

1097
00:45:56,002 --> 00:45:58,002
Speaker 2: Doc Brown shows up and he's in the future car

1098
00:45:58,042 --> 00:45:59,842
Speaker 2: and he's in the weird goggles and all this stuff

1099
00:45:59,882 --> 00:46:01,492
Speaker 2: and he goes– It's not you, Marty.

1100
00:46:01,592 --> 00:46:04,352
Speaker 1: It's your kids. Something's got to be done about your kids. Right.

1101
00:46:04,652 --> 00:46:06,911
Speaker 2: Why couldn't he have just gone back further and fixed that?

1102
00:46:07,552 --> 00:46:10,452
Speaker 1: Right. You know what I'm saying? Well, he went back

1103
00:46:10,492 --> 00:46:13,972
Speaker 1: to the point he thought sent them. He says that.

1104
00:46:13,992 --> 00:46:15,982
Speaker 1: He explains that thing. He tried to pinpoint the moment

1105
00:46:16,022 --> 00:46:17,802
Speaker 1: he thinks it all went south. Yeah. But he could

1106
00:46:17,822 --> 00:46:19,122
Speaker 1: have gone a little further back where they weren't in

1107
00:46:19,142 --> 00:46:21,362
Speaker 1: such a hurry. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right.

1108
00:46:21,422 --> 00:46:22,902
Speaker 1: We got to do it right now. Hurry. You got

1109
00:46:22,922 --> 00:46:23,442
Speaker 1: to do it before.

1110
00:46:23,702 --> 00:46:25,382
Speaker 2: Just go back a day, two days before.

1111
00:46:25,402 --> 00:46:27,221
Speaker 1: Right. Well, you know why he didn't do that? Why?

1112
00:46:27,482 --> 00:46:28,802
Speaker 1: Because he didn't want Marty to be in the future

1113
00:46:28,842 --> 00:46:31,692
Speaker 1: for so long that he affected it. And he did.

1114
00:46:32,052 --> 00:46:33,792
Speaker 1: The longer he was there, that's what he said. See,

1115
00:46:33,812 --> 00:46:35,072
Speaker 1: it's all coming together. It's really well written.

1116
00:46:35,212 --> 00:46:37,392
Speaker 2: My favorite part about those movies, I can remember there's

1117
00:46:37,452 --> 00:46:38,752
Speaker 2: a conversation we were having at Back to the Future

1118
00:46:38,772 --> 00:46:41,712
Speaker 2: the other day because somebody had like a model of something.

1119
00:46:42,252 --> 00:46:44,532
Speaker 2: And I always love how he built these intricate models

1120
00:46:44,592 --> 00:46:48,062
Speaker 2: of like, I mean, everything's on it. The hook is

1121
00:46:48,102 --> 00:46:48,661
Speaker 2: on the car.

1122
00:46:48,722 --> 00:46:50,122
Speaker 1: The car works. All of it.

1123
00:46:50,122 --> 00:46:52,662
Speaker 2: And he goes, I apologize for the crudity of this model.

1124
00:46:52,762 --> 00:46:55,282
Speaker 2: It's so funny. It's such a perfect model. It's such

1125
00:46:55,302 --> 00:46:57,702
Speaker 2: a funny, subtle Spielberg joke to make.

1126
00:46:58,522 --> 00:46:58,902
Speaker 1: I love it.

1127
00:46:59,542 --> 00:46:59,781
Speaker 2: Anyway.

1128
00:47:00,102 --> 00:47:00,842
Speaker 1: Those are classics.

1129
00:47:00,902 --> 00:47:01,822
Speaker 2: And if you haven't seen them.

1130
00:47:02,102 --> 00:47:02,882
Speaker 1: Wait, was that Spielberg?

1131
00:47:03,462 --> 00:47:05,442
Speaker 2: Spielberg produced Robert Zemeckis.

1132
00:47:05,502 --> 00:47:06,082
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zemeckis.

1133
00:47:06,252 --> 00:47:08,632
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think Spielberg was involved in Back.

1134
00:47:08,552 --> 00:47:09,852
Speaker 1: To the Future. Was he not? He may be an

1135
00:47:09,872 --> 00:47:11,012
Speaker 1: executive producer. Maybe not.

1136
00:47:11,032 --> 00:47:13,852
Speaker 2: But it was a very 80s sensibility, that sense of

1137
00:47:13,892 --> 00:47:16,552
Speaker 2: humor that's in those jokes. That gag of like a

1138
00:47:16,612 --> 00:47:19,362
Speaker 2: scientist making a perfect model and saying, I apologize for

1139
00:47:19,382 --> 00:47:19,782
Speaker 2: the crudity.

1140
00:47:19,802 --> 00:47:20,642
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's perfect.

1141
00:47:20,662 --> 00:47:23,482
Speaker 2: It's got the wire, the perfect wire. He attaches jumper

1142
00:47:23,502 --> 00:47:25,562
Speaker 2: cables to it. It sends the perfect amount of electricity.

1143
00:47:25,822 --> 00:47:28,242
Speaker 1: It's funny. Every car is positioned on the street appropriately.

1144
00:47:28,282 --> 00:47:31,752
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just great. John, it's a good one, though.

1145
00:47:31,772 --> 00:47:32,352
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1146
00:47:32,692 --> 00:47:35,212
Speaker 2: Go see Back to the Future. Stop what you're doing.

1147
00:47:35,352 --> 00:47:35,951
Speaker 1: Drop it all.

1148
00:47:36,272 --> 00:47:37,952
Speaker 2: Go watch those three movies with your kids.

1149
00:47:38,232 --> 00:47:40,972
Speaker 1: I tried with my kid. She was younger. She didn't

1150
00:47:41,012 --> 00:47:44,152
Speaker 1: like Back to the Future? It didn't work. I think

1151
00:47:44,192 --> 00:47:46,592
Speaker 1: that the plot developments are so much slower in those

1152
00:47:46,632 --> 00:47:48,392
Speaker 1: movies than the kids are used to today. I don't

1153
00:47:48,412 --> 00:47:50,972
Speaker 1: like that, though. Well, I'm going to try maybe another time.

1154
00:47:50,992 --> 00:47:53,312
Speaker 1: I keep thinking.

1155
00:47:53,982 --> 00:47:56,982
Speaker 2: There's a piece of AI software. that'll make clips for

1156
00:47:57,042 --> 00:47:59,632
Speaker 2: our podcast. We're not, they're not a sponsor, so we're

1157
00:47:59,652 --> 00:48:01,982
Speaker 2: not going to promote it, but we started tinkering with it.

1158
00:48:02,452 --> 00:48:04,552
Speaker 2: And one of the things that we'll do, which a

1159
00:48:04,572 --> 00:48:06,812
Speaker 2: lot of clips that you see from podcasts, I've noticed

1160
00:48:07,212 --> 00:48:09,312
Speaker 2: it'll take the ums and the breaths and like what

1161
00:48:09,352 --> 00:48:11,792
Speaker 2: you would call useless, you know, you know, let's get

1162
00:48:11,812 --> 00:48:13,922
Speaker 2: to the point kind of a thing, which seems good.

1163
00:48:14,022 --> 00:48:16,542
Speaker 2: But I wonder if after 10 years of watching clips

1164
00:48:16,582 --> 00:48:19,282
Speaker 2: like that, if say these generations going to be like

1165
00:48:20,802 --> 00:48:22,782
Speaker 2: not able to have a conversation that doesn't just go

1166
00:48:22,802 --> 00:48:25,182
Speaker 2: a mile a minute and doesn't have any breaths in it.

1167
00:48:25,792 --> 00:48:27,392
Speaker 2: Because they just learn to talk that way.

1168
00:48:27,552 --> 00:48:28,392
Speaker 1: The pausing.

1169
00:48:30,532 --> 00:48:32,372
Speaker 2: Smash cut a conversation, basically.

1170
00:48:32,552 --> 00:48:32,992
Speaker 1: You can't.

1171
00:48:33,492 --> 00:48:34,552
Speaker 2: You have no time for this.

1172
00:48:35,192 --> 00:48:38,142
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been hired to do a story production thing.

1173
00:48:38,372 --> 00:48:40,661
Speaker 1: I'm doing some video work. And that's one of the things.

1174
00:48:41,502 --> 00:48:43,661
Speaker 1: They were like, you could just read the script to

1175
00:48:43,702 --> 00:48:45,661
Speaker 1: put this in the order. Yeah. And I was like, yeah,

1176
00:48:45,682 --> 00:48:48,862
Speaker 1: but there's so much more that may be communicated here.

1177
00:48:49,502 --> 00:48:51,862
Speaker 1: By someone who's not saying as much. Right. Right. It's

1178
00:48:51,942 --> 00:48:52,722
Speaker 1: particularly in the.

1179
00:48:52,732 --> 00:48:54,952
Speaker 2: Have we lost our, that's a whole podcast for another day,

1180
00:48:54,992 --> 00:48:58,511
Speaker 2: is like, have we lost our, you know, patience with

1181
00:48:58,672 --> 00:49:00,172
Speaker 2: pausing for effect?

1182
00:49:00,472 --> 00:49:00,632
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1183
00:49:00,652 --> 00:49:03,152
Speaker 2: Like if somebody's doing a talk and they go, and

1184
00:49:03,192 --> 00:49:06,562
Speaker 2: they take off their glasses, we go, this guy, boring.

1185
00:49:06,752 --> 00:49:09,362
Speaker 2: Do we not understand that's a moment? He's trying to

1186
00:49:09,382 --> 00:49:10,261
Speaker 2: make a moment there.

1187
00:49:10,642 --> 00:49:13,782
Speaker 1: I feel when I listen to the podcast sometimes, it

1188
00:49:13,802 --> 00:49:16,202
Speaker 1: takes me longer to get there than I feel like

1189
00:49:16,242 --> 00:49:18,652
Speaker 1: it should. But I also don't want to, I want

1190
00:49:18,672 --> 00:49:21,622
Speaker 1: to measure my words. Right. There's sentences like I just did.

1191
00:49:21,662 --> 00:49:22,942
Speaker 1: There's sentences that I don't finish.

1192
00:49:23,042 --> 00:49:25,822
Speaker 2: Well, we also are lazy. We don't like editing the podcast. No.

1193
00:49:26,022 --> 00:49:29,672
Speaker 2: So we just try to like, while we're talking, we go,

1194
00:49:29,692 --> 00:49:32,212
Speaker 2: not going to say that. Like in our head, we're going,

1195
00:49:32,472 --> 00:49:33,152
Speaker 2: not doing that.

1196
00:49:33,672 --> 00:49:35,612
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that's what makes it authentic. Do you?

1197
00:49:36,232 --> 00:49:38,272
Speaker 1: That's the word you use when you have a subpar

1198
00:49:38,312 --> 00:49:41,122
Speaker 1: product that you don't want to edit. It's so authentic.

1199
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Speaker 2: Is it good?

1200
00:49:44,342 --> 00:49:47,661
Speaker 1: Well, it's real. It's real. Good is in the eye

1201
00:49:47,702 --> 00:49:52,072
Speaker 1: of the beholder. It is. You know what, beholders? We're

1202
00:49:52,112 --> 00:49:54,252
Speaker 1: so glad that you gave us your time and we

1203
00:49:54,272 --> 00:49:54,951
Speaker 1: thought it was good.

1204
00:49:54,972 --> 00:49:57,432
Speaker 2: It's a new nickname for our listeners, the beholders.

1205
00:49:57,592 --> 00:49:57,792
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1206
00:49:58,022 --> 00:49:59,741
Speaker 2: Sounds like a 50s rock band, maybe.

1207
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Speaker 1: You have beheld. And now we want you to go

1208
00:50:03,482 --> 00:50:04,162
Speaker 1: to our website.

1209
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1210
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, guys, thanks so much for the time you

1224
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Speaker 1: gave us today. It was a lot of fun. I

1225
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Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode, and I hope you did, too. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next week here on... Talk about that.