1 00:00:02,710 --> 00:00:08,570 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Hey there, welcome to the Out of Zion podcast. 2 00:00:08,869 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: I am Dr. Susan Michael, your host today. And in 3 00:00:12,700 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: today's podcast, I'm going to begin a series of several 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,260 Speaker 1: weeks of discussing the problem of antisemitism. Today, I'm going 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,820 Speaker 1: to talk about the absurdity of antisemitism. But then in 6 00:00:26,860 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: coming weeks, I'm going to talk about what's causing this 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,010 Speaker 1: flood of of hatred in the United States and around 8 00:00:33,050 --> 00:00:35,330 Speaker 1: the world. I'm also going to talk about what the 9 00:00:35,390 --> 00:00:39,210 Speaker 1: Bible says about it and even what is making some 10 00:00:39,370 --> 00:00:43,370 Speaker 1: Christians vulnerable to it. So be sure and tune in 11 00:00:43,490 --> 00:00:48,470 Speaker 1: each week. It's important that we all understand this terrible 12 00:00:48,670 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: evil movement of hatred abuse so we know how to 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,230 Speaker 1: actually resist it. 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: Let's take a break and hear a message from one 15 00:00:57,700 --> 00:01:06,220 Speaker 2: of our sponsors. Welcome to the Israel Answers series, connecting Israel, 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,660 Speaker 2: the Bible, and you. Join Susan Michael as she explores 17 00:01:10,740 --> 00:01:14,460 Speaker 2: timely issues and current events from a scriptural perspective to 18 00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:17,339 Speaker 2: equip the Christian world with a balanced and biblical response. 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: Be sure to subscribe for future episodes, which will ignite 20 00:01:21,140 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: your faith and bring the Bible to life in your 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,770 Speaker 2: everyday world. Now let's join Susan with your Israel Answers. 22 00:01:31,980 --> 00:01:34,209 Speaker 1: So as I said, I'm going to begin today about 23 00:01:34,250 --> 00:01:40,729 Speaker 1: the absurdity of anti-Semitism. You know, anti-Semitism is not based 24 00:01:41,310 --> 00:01:46,940 Speaker 1: on reason or logic or even facts. It relies on 25 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,300 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories to make its case and conspiracy theories that 26 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,540 Speaker 1: may even contradict facts or even contradict other conspiracy theories. 27 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,410 Speaker 1: It's irrational. I'm going to give you a few recent 28 00:02:01,490 --> 00:02:04,809 Speaker 1: examples of things that have happened. You know, we recently 29 00:02:04,850 --> 00:02:09,250 Speaker 1: in the United States, we hosted the 2026 World Cup 30 00:02:09,690 --> 00:02:15,450 Speaker 1: soccer matches. And on July the 3rd, Egypt defeated Australia. 31 00:02:15,910 --> 00:02:19,830 Speaker 1: And one of the Egyptian coaches raised a Palestinian flag 32 00:02:19,889 --> 00:02:24,169 Speaker 1: and dedicated the win to the Palestinian people. Well, a 33 00:02:24,190 --> 00:02:29,670 Speaker 1: few days later, when Egypt then played Argentina, Israeli flags 34 00:02:29,730 --> 00:02:33,450 Speaker 1: were held by some of the Argentinian fans. Now, if 35 00:02:33,490 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: you know anything about sports, you know a common aspect 36 00:02:37,780 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: of sports is the competitiveness. And that's not just between 37 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:46,340 Speaker 1: the teams, but even between their fans. And much of 38 00:02:46,419 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: it's done in jest and fun. It's the fun of 39 00:02:50,419 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: the game. However, when Egypt lost, not only was the 40 00:02:56,740 --> 00:03:02,550 Speaker 1: referee blamed, So was Israel. And in order to prove 41 00:03:02,570 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: the Zionist conspiracy against the Egyptian team, the referee's Wikipedia 42 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:13,420 Speaker 1: page was hacked and vandalized to wrongly claim that he 43 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: was Jewish. There was the proof of the Zionist conspiracy. Now, 44 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: about a week later, Morocco was defeated by France 2-0 45 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:31,190 Speaker 1: in a quarterfinal. By any rational measure, the Jewish people 46 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:37,020 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. Yet within hours, rioting 47 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: crowds in European cities were setting fires and chanting, Hamas, Hamas, 48 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: all Jews to the gas chambers. What? Others were shouting 49 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: that Jews were a cancer. These riots took place all 50 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,030 Speaker 1: across Europe. Now think of the absurdity of this for 51 00:03:58,050 --> 00:04:03,210 Speaker 1: a moment. A North African sports team lost a soccer 52 00:04:03,250 --> 00:04:08,580 Speaker 1: match and the reflex, the immediate unthinking reflex was to 53 00:04:08,620 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: call for the murder of the Jews. This is not 54 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,700 Speaker 1: about soccer. This is about finding someone else to blame 55 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:24,020 Speaker 1: for your own failures or problems by concocting or promoting 56 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:29,190 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory. We have lots of failures and problems 57 00:04:29,250 --> 00:04:33,050 Speaker 1: in our world today, and the Jews are being blamed 58 00:04:33,410 --> 00:04:41,029 Speaker 1: for everything. More examples. Last month, or later that same 59 00:04:41,089 --> 00:04:47,450 Speaker 1: month in July, over 70,000 migrants, primarily young Moroccan men, 60 00:04:48,430 --> 00:04:55,850 Speaker 1: crossed into Ceuta, Spain, driven by social media disinformation, that 61 00:04:55,970 --> 00:05:01,990 Speaker 1: misinterpreted a Spanish Supreme Court ruling, making them think that 62 00:05:02,029 --> 00:05:07,380 Speaker 1: they would not be returned to Morocco. Now, ignoring the 63 00:05:07,420 --> 00:05:13,500 Speaker 1: problem of high unemployment in Morocco amongst this age group, 64 00:05:14,339 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: these migrants were fleeing high unemployment. Ignoring all of that, 65 00:05:19,380 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: X and other platforms were flooded with claims that Israel, 66 00:05:24,690 --> 00:05:30,670 Speaker 1: amongst others, orchestrated the physical wave of migrants to destabilize Europe. 67 00:05:31,630 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: Even the president of Spain blamed Israel, but presented no evidence, 68 00:05:37,779 --> 00:05:42,060 Speaker 1: and of course Israel denied it. Look at what happened 69 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Before investigators had even 70 00:05:47,540 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: established a motive or a suspect was in custody or 71 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: anybody knew any of the basic facts, Conspiracy theories spread 72 00:05:55,900 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: online claiming that it was Israel or the Mossad. One 73 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,380 Speaker 1: analysis found that posts promoting that lie drew more than 74 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:11,770 Speaker 1: 139 million views in the five days after the killing. Now, 75 00:06:11,810 --> 00:06:16,070 Speaker 1: the accusation moved faster than the manhunt, and Israel's prime 76 00:06:16,130 --> 00:06:19,710 Speaker 1: minister was forced to deny it twice. None of it 77 00:06:19,750 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: was true. but it all spread rapidly anyway. What about 78 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: during the COVID pandemic? Fringe online conspiracy theories simultaneously asserted 79 00:06:32,940 --> 00:06:37,969 Speaker 1: two incompatible things. Number one, that Jews had engineered the 80 00:06:38,010 --> 00:06:44,510 Speaker 1: virus as a bioweapon to destroy Western economies, while concurrently claiming, 81 00:06:44,750 --> 00:06:48,590 Speaker 1: number two, that they invented the vaccine to to secretly 82 00:06:48,670 --> 00:06:54,810 Speaker 1: microchip the population and profit off the cure. Now, we 83 00:06:54,910 --> 00:06:59,750 Speaker 1: just passed the 25th anniversary of September the 11th, which 84 00:06:59,810 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: should have been a universal moment of remembrance and reflection. Instead, 85 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:14,130 Speaker 1: anti-Semites exploited the moment to spread a proliferation of anti-Semitic 86 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:18,660 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, blaming Israel and the Jews for for the attack. 87 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: One popular lie attempted to prove Israeli involvement by the 88 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: fabricated claim that 4,000 Israelis working at the World Trade 89 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,630 Speaker 1: Center received a text message warning them to stay home 90 00:07:33,690 --> 00:07:38,890 Speaker 1: that day. Now, it's ironic that the attack was carried 91 00:07:39,050 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: out by Muslim jihadists who hate Israel and the Jewish people. But, 92 00:07:46,060 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: yet Israel's blamed for orchestrating the attack. Now let's talk 93 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: about Gaza. During the Gaza War, Israel shipped or allowed 94 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,540 Speaker 1: to be shipped so much food and supplies into Gaza 95 00:08:03,140 --> 00:08:07,660 Speaker 1: that UNICEF just released a study published in July 2026 96 00:08:07,660 --> 00:08:13,820 Speaker 1: that said the nutritional status of children and women of 97 00:08:13,820 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: 15 to 49 years old in Gaza surpasses that of 98 00:08:20,420 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: neighboring Arab countries and even some European countries. Yet Israel 99 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:32,650 Speaker 1: was accused of starving Gazans and committing genocide. Now the 100 00:08:32,690 --> 00:08:38,030 Speaker 1: Gazan War had the lowest ratio of civilian deaths to 101 00:08:38,090 --> 00:08:42,290 Speaker 1: military deaths of any war. Yet Israel was accused of 102 00:08:42,429 --> 00:08:47,380 Speaker 1: indiscriminate slaughter of Gazans as part of the genocide campaign. 103 00:08:48,380 --> 00:08:53,740 Speaker 1: So you see, soccer match, a pandemic, a war, an assassination, 104 00:08:54,220 --> 00:09:00,180 Speaker 1: mass migration, a terrorist attack by Muslims. Somehow, sooner or later, 105 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:05,910 Speaker 1: someone finds a way to blame the Jews. Now, we've 106 00:09:05,950 --> 00:09:11,050 Speaker 1: watched this pattern for centuries. Back in the Middle Ages, 107 00:09:11,890 --> 00:09:16,010 Speaker 1: the Black Death swept through Europe and Jews were accused 108 00:09:16,190 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: of poisoning the wells. and Jewish communities were burned alive 109 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: for the plague, the same plague they were dying from 110 00:09:25,460 --> 00:09:30,140 Speaker 1: at the same rate of everybody else. During the Spanish 111 00:09:30,210 --> 00:09:35,410 Speaker 1: Inquisition in the early modern period, Jews were accused of 112 00:09:35,490 --> 00:09:40,189 Speaker 1: corrupting the Christian faith and were expelled, tortured, or forced 113 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:45,980 Speaker 1: to convert. The false claim that Jews ritually murder Christian 114 00:09:46,059 --> 00:09:49,900 Speaker 1: children for their blood was used as a political weapon 115 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:56,450 Speaker 1: to justify the religious cleansing of Spain. Now, even though 116 00:09:57,210 --> 00:10:02,350 Speaker 1: the Jewish religion very clearly much restricts the eating of 117 00:10:02,429 --> 00:10:08,589 Speaker 1: any blood, this is what I mean. Okay, a few 118 00:10:08,650 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: centuries later, in Nazi Germany, just a hundred years ago, 119 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: Nazi ideology claimed Jewish people were legally and biologically subhuman. 120 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:27,140 Speaker 1: They were an inferior race that was polluting the superior 121 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,870 Speaker 1: Aryan race. Yet, at the same time, the regime portrayed 122 00:10:32,950 --> 00:10:40,750 Speaker 1: Jews as powerful, hyper-intelligent, global force capable of secretly controlling 123 00:10:41,210 --> 00:10:47,010 Speaker 1: the world's superpowers. It just doesn't add up. So consider 124 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: how completely the accusations contradict one another. Jews are blamed 125 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:59,660 Speaker 1: for capitalism and for communism. They're accused for controlling Wall 126 00:10:59,700 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Street and destroying economies. They are called globalists and at 127 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: the same time accused of loyalty only to Israel. They're 128 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:16,290 Speaker 1: portrayed as parasites. and, as an all-powerful, puppet masters controlling 129 00:11:16,330 --> 00:11:22,910 Speaker 1: the world. 15 million Jews, less than 0.2% of humanity, 130 00:11:23,590 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: are routinely accused of controlling the world. So these conflicting 131 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: claims point out the absurdity of anti-Semitism. It's not rational. 132 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: Yet it survives because anti-Semitism is has never depended on 133 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: evidence or facts. It depends on the willingness to believe 134 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:52,059 Speaker 1: that someone else is always to blame. And because it's 135 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: not logical or rational, reasoning will never stop it. Now, 136 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:05,660 Speaker 1: the reality. The reality is a completely different story. You know, 137 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,330 Speaker 1: while Jews represent less than two-tenths of one percent of 138 00:12:10,350 --> 00:12:17,090 Speaker 1: the world's population, Jewish contributions to humanity have been extraordinary. 139 00:12:17,870 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: Jewish scientists and physicians have transformed medicine. Jewish thinkers have 140 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: shaped law, ethics, literature, and philosophy. Jewish individuals have received 141 00:12:29,460 --> 00:12:36,050 Speaker 1: roughly one-fifth of Nobel Prizes, despite representing only a tiny 142 00:12:36,130 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: fraction of humanity. Now, Israel, despite its size and the 143 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:46,579 Speaker 1: constant pressures of war, has become a global leader in 144 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:56,140 Speaker 1: emergency medicine, cybersecurity, agriculture, desalination of water, water technology, and 145 00:12:56,220 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: scientific innovation. Elon Musk has observed that on a per 146 00:13:01,940 --> 00:13:08,090 Speaker 1: capita basis, the Jewish people may have contributed more to humanity, 147 00:13:08,590 --> 00:13:12,550 Speaker 1: than any other group. Now, whether that's correct or not, 148 00:13:12,730 --> 00:13:17,630 Speaker 1: the point is a remarkably small people have made an 149 00:13:17,790 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: impact on civilization far beyond their numbers and all for 150 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,780 Speaker 1: the good of humanity. Now, should that not inspire respect 151 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:36,970 Speaker 1: rather than resentment or just curiosity rather than conspiracy here? 152 00:13:38,370 --> 00:13:42,870 Speaker 1: Gratitude rather than suspicion. I mean, this is the problem. 153 00:13:43,710 --> 00:13:49,430 Speaker 1: Success can inspire admiration, but it can also provoke jealousy 154 00:13:49,790 --> 00:13:53,730 Speaker 1: and resentment in those looking for a reason to explain 155 00:13:53,809 --> 00:14:02,100 Speaker 1: their own disappointments, their own failures, inadequacies. Those seeking to 156 00:14:02,140 --> 00:14:09,469 Speaker 1: blame someone and they therefore feel better about themselves. So 157 00:14:09,550 --> 00:14:12,950 Speaker 1: now I'm going to wrap this up with why does 158 00:14:13,010 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: this matter to you and to me? Why should this 159 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: matter to us? Because a civilization that blames Jews for 160 00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:29,930 Speaker 1: everything eventually accepts responsibility for nothing. This is not just 161 00:14:30,170 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: a Jewish issue. It's a test of civilization itself. You know, 162 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,420 Speaker 1: anti-Semitism is often referred to as the canary in a 163 00:14:39,460 --> 00:14:43,820 Speaker 1: coal mine and an early warning sign of impending danger. 164 00:14:44,780 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: The phrase comes from the historical practice that miners used 165 00:14:49,740 --> 00:14:55,420 Speaker 1: to carry a caged canary underground into the mine tunnels 166 00:14:55,540 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: because these birds are highly sensitive to toxic gases like 167 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:08,210 Speaker 1: carbon monoxide. And their distress or death alerted miners that 168 00:15:08,250 --> 00:15:14,270 Speaker 1: they're breathing toxins and to take immediate action. The global 169 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: explosion of anti-Semitism is a clear warning to Western civilization 170 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: that we have a serious toxic sickness in society. And 171 00:15:27,820 --> 00:15:32,020 Speaker 1: to survive, we must admit the danger that we face 172 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,660 Speaker 1: and take action. because the Holocaust did not begin with 173 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: gas chambers. It began with words, with slogans, with rumors, 174 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:49,820 Speaker 1: and with conspiracy theories. That is why, my friends, I'm 175 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,460 Speaker 1: doing this series, and I urge you to tune in 176 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,590 Speaker 1: every week and go through the whole series with me. 177 00:15:56,250 --> 00:15:59,170 Speaker 1: I also want to encourage you to get our free 178 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:03,890 Speaker 1: download about antisemitism, It's a short summary of the history 179 00:16:03,930 --> 00:16:07,870 Speaker 1: of anti-Semitism and also where it's found today and what 180 00:16:08,290 --> 00:16:11,900 Speaker 1: you can do, you can begin to do about it. 181 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:14,770 Speaker 1: You know, we may feel like the problem is so big. 182 00:16:15,830 --> 00:16:19,820 Speaker 1: What can I do? But my philosophy is if we 183 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: all just do a little, it'll add up to a 184 00:16:22,860 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: whole lot. And there's a little bit that you can do. 185 00:16:26,620 --> 00:16:30,979 Speaker 1: So please go to our show notes. If there's no 186 00:16:31,060 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: show notes down below on this platform that you're listening to, 187 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: go to www.icejusa.org forward slash show notes. There you'll find 188 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:51,930 Speaker 1: the link to download our free resource on anti-Semitism. And 189 00:16:52,270 --> 00:16:56,190 Speaker 1: I will see you back here next week. God bless. 190 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: We hope you have enjoyed this episode of Out of 191 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,910 Speaker 2: Zion with Susan Michael. Be sure to subscribe to Out 192 00:17:03,930 --> 00:17:11,350 Speaker 2: of Zion now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Pray.com, Salem OnePlace, 193 00:17:11,970 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 2: Salem Life Audio. 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