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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's election

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Speaker 2: day in Arizona. It's July twenty first, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I'm back here behind the Y five flag. He finally

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Speaker 2: We have Andy Biggs, go bigs or go home, two

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Speaker 3: Well, we gotta win by historic numbers today, and it's

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Speaker 4: When you get more of your low propensity voters out

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Speaker 5: People we ran into in twenty four where they thought

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Speaker 3: We have had numerous people this election cycle that we're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never forget that story about the fahouse with

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Speaker 3: So Alex call it In has been in the state legislature.

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Speaker 3: That's right, she's barnad not even close, way better than

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Speaker 2: Doctor Ralph Heap for Corporation Commissioners.

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Speaker 2: And then there are obviously there's some names that people

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Sheriff Mark Lamb, great friend the organization for

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Speaker 2: Huge he was.

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Speaker 3: He's obviously been sheriff, you know, fighting the left longer

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Speaker 3: We have Wan Siscamani that's in the fight of his

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Speaker 3: We're going to see how that turns out tonight. But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like.

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Speaker 5: A huge with all the with all of the adjustments

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Speaker 3: So Arizona has the highest per capita number of swing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so polls close. It's seven pm in Arizona tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is vote Arizona slash.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, tpaction dot com. We did update at tpaction

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Speaker 2: Or is it vote easy Vote Arizona Vote.

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Speaker 3: Most winningness primary victories in Arizona for the last forty years, which.

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Speaker 2: Would send a huge message. And we actually we're gonna

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Speaker 2: There's an election watch party if you're in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: And this matters for the whole country. The way that

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Speaker 2: For this next question, we need to keep Arizona. Actually,

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Speaker 2: So great to have you back on the show. I

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Speaker 5: The probably what should we say the Charlie Kirk of

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Speaker 2: No, he doesn't deserve that, but he doesn't deserve influential

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Speaker 8: carrying on. We must carry it on. Yes, yes, I

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Speaker 9: It is the best way to describe it. As school.

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Speaker 8: His father was purged, his family was persecuted. His half

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Speaker 10: stiff workers and help bosses. We don't need those democrats anymore.

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Speaker 5: So there, while he's talking, no compromise with any moderate Democrats.

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Speaker 2: They're as bad as the fascist.

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Speaker 5: As he calls them, because they'll support Israel, because they'll

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Speaker 5: support ICE, or they'll fund ice, they'll allow people to

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Speaker 5: be deported.

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Speaker 2: They're all the enemy.

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Speaker 5: And while he's saying that, if you couldn't see it,

449
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Speaker 5: he's wearing the sun yacht sunsuit, the outfit off that

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Speaker 5: Maw wears in every image of him and that they

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Speaker 5: still wear in communist China today. I think he's well

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Speaker 5: aware of what he's advocating.

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Speaker 9: And if this is something he.

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Speaker 8: Doesn't know, yes, but he doesn't know that he will

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Speaker 8: be the first one to go. Why because he's so

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Speaker 8: damn opinionated and he's rich, he will be the first

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Speaker 8: one to go.

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Speaker 9: And that's something that he doesn't know. And of course

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Speaker 9: they don't know.

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Speaker 8: Of course He's followers don't know because our education, educational

461
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Speaker 8: system has been taken over by Marxists.

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Speaker 9: They know every simple haitler about fascism.

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Speaker 8: They don't know that communism and fascism and Nazism is

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Speaker 8: the same thing. And also socialism communism, no difference, just

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Speaker 8: a matter of stage. And we're told when I grew

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Speaker 8: up that the socialism is this initial state of communists.

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Speaker 2: M hm, you know it finds I find it interesting though,

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Speaker 2: that same through line that you said, Mao killed a

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Speaker 2: bunch of communists and you're saying he'd be the first

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Speaker 2: one to go. I totally get it. But you see

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Speaker 2: that same spirit being animated in him, this animal passion

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Speaker 2: for wanting to first tear down anybody in the ranks

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Speaker 2: that don't pass his purity tests. And I have to

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Speaker 2: believe that that was the same spirit animating MoU's brutal

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Speaker 2: carnage within his own Communist ranks, that if you do

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Speaker 2: not meet my purity test, you're gone, or if you

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Speaker 2: become a problem to me, you're gone. And that this

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Speaker 2: is why I said, I said on social media last

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Speaker 2: night that Hassan Piker, if given the power or anybody

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Speaker 2: like him, wants us dead, they would get rid of

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Speaker 2: us in a second because we would stand up to

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Speaker 2: them trying to seize the means of production. Do am

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Speaker 2: I missing this?

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Speaker 9: It's power.

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Speaker 8: It's all about power exactly, And that's what Jim Pine

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Speaker 8: has been saying. If your loyalty to the party is

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Speaker 8: not absolute, you are absolutely disloyal to the party. Purity

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Speaker 8: and absolute loyalty. That's what they demand. But the thing

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Speaker 8: that she jim Pin is scared. She jim Pin, even

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Speaker 8: though he has all the power, he suspects everyone around

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Speaker 8: him to be disloyal. He lives in such fear, and

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Speaker 8: that is the core of communism. It is about power,

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Speaker 8: and it's about for wild will be a victim, even

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Speaker 8: the highest leader will be a victim.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I mean I think it's it's important for

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Speaker 5: us to emphasize because you can say, why are you

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Speaker 5: guys highlighting a streamer where he says a nice thing

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Speaker 5: about Mao. Is this a big deal? And we really

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Speaker 5: need to drive this home. There are a ton of

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Speaker 5: people who are This guy is getting magazine profiles everywhere

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Speaker 5: on the left. He is a huge voice. He's a

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Speaker 5: huge voice for young leftists. He's clearly representing the wave

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Speaker 5: of the future for this party. And what they are

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Speaker 5: embracing is you can call it Maoism, you can call

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Speaker 5: it communism, you can call it third worldism, but.

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Speaker 2: It's a much more.

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Speaker 5: Culturally arsonist way of viewing the entire West that they

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Speaker 5: want to. They're gloating that they're going to tear everything down.

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Speaker 5: They're gloating about who they'll put in there.

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Speaker 2: Listen to his list of endorsements. Adam Hamaway in New

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Speaker 2: Jersey twelve Abdul l Sayed, who's running for US Senate

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Speaker 2: in Michigan.

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Speaker 5: That's the man who had condolences about the Iatola's stuff,

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Speaker 5: but he's attacked his opponent for for voting on a

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Speaker 5: resolution to honor Charlie Yep, Claire Valdez and Chevalier New

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Speaker 5: York House races DSA backed.

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Speaker 2: These are people that have openly supported the destruction of

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Speaker 2: the West, the destruction of America. So Tom Steyer, Nitia

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Speaker 2: Rahman in California, the far left candidates. So this is

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Speaker 2: not some history lesson that doesn't relate to our current moment. No,

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Speaker 2: it relates very well because these terrible ideas are being

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Speaker 2: All right, So g you are I want to actually

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Speaker 2: plug your book here really quick. It's made in America, Gvanfleet.

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Speaker 2: The hidden history of how the US enabled communist China

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Speaker 2: and created our greatest threat. So, uh, you are a

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Speaker 2: prolific author as well as many things. You're doing such

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Speaker 2: a good job of telling this story so that we

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Speaker 2: are not doomed to repeat the history of communists China

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Speaker 2: and so many other authoritarian regimes. I gotta get through

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Speaker 2: this point though, because this is what we're seeing play out.

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Speaker 2: Charlie used to always say what happens on campus doesn't

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Speaker 2: stay on campus. It bleeds into corporate boardrooms in the

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Speaker 2: halls of Congress, and we're seeing that right now. And

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about this long march through the

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Speaker 2: institutions that communists have been engaging upon in this country.

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Speaker 2: It's NOTT twenty three. This is a congressional hearing that's

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Speaker 2: happened this morning, and we're seeing this play out right now.

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Speaker 2: It's not twenty three, doctor Blake.

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Speaker 8: When people see the warning signs that you mentioned, why

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Speaker 8: is it important that they speak up and take action.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's important because if the people don't stand up,

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Speaker 11: they lose these institutions. And as you just suggest that

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Speaker 11: the black world came to America for the World Cup,

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Speaker 11: I wonder if I wonder if people notice that the

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Speaker 11: world is black and brown. Teams from European countries were

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Speaker 11: black and brown.

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Speaker 2: So they're talking about the basically the museums, the institutions,

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Speaker 2: and how they they're fighting back against what they call

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Speaker 2: President Trump's propaganda within the Smithsonian and they're noticing that

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Speaker 2: it's the authoritarian tendencies of President Trump. What is the

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Speaker 2: actual truth here, Givanfleet, about what has happened to America's

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Speaker 2: cultural institutions, our educational institutions over the last four to

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Speaker 2: five decades.

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Speaker 9: It's the Loonemarch institution.

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Speaker 8: Is the Marxist takeover of this country, one institution at

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Speaker 8: the time, and they started with the higher education. They

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Speaker 8: started with university. And when they control university, they control

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Speaker 8: this country because they had been produced generations of Marxists.

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Speaker 9: Where are they now?

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Speaker 7: They are being.

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Speaker 8: Control of our institution, especially the Smithsonian Institution. They control

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Speaker 8: all the museums and historical sides, and lately for Americans

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Speaker 8: two hundred and fifties anniversary, I visited many historical sides,

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Speaker 8: especially Montchello.

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Speaker 9: You go there if you.

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Speaker 8: Don't know anything about Jefferson, you know with this idea

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Speaker 8: that what an awful man he is and he is

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Speaker 8: a slave owner, and that's pretty much all you'll get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, exactly. Jasmine Crockett had to weigh in here,

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Speaker 2: Jeevan Fleet, she's sounding the same note twenty four.

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Speaker 12: So, doctor Blight. If Republicans are going to band books,

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Speaker 12: penalized schools and universities, attack museums, if states continue to

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Speaker 12: change curriculum, where do Americans go to learn about the complicated,

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Speaker 12: sometimes racists and violent parts of American history?

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Speaker 11: Thank you for the question. I think they will have

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Speaker 11: to keep going to the same institutions, and we have

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Speaker 11: to keep to preserve what we are doing in those institutions.

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Speaker 11: They have to keep going to public schools, they have

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Speaker 11: to keep going to their public libraries, they have to

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Speaker 11: keep going to the Great Smithsonian. Americans have to keep

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Speaker 11: going to those places they trust. We have to keep

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Speaker 11: those institutions trustworthy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they're only trustworthy to your point if they

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Speaker 2: talk about our racist, quote racist and violent past, and

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Speaker 2: they're accusing us of banning books, of penalizing schools and universities.

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Speaker 2: Why is it that they feel so entitled to these things,

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Speaker 2: and why is it so important to them that they

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Speaker 2: capture them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because if you control the institution, you really control

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Speaker 8: the narrative, and you control what how people learn of

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Speaker 8: our past.

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Speaker 9: They're really this is absolutely rewriting of the past.

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Speaker 13: And that's the exact We're not through up no idea

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Speaker 13: what China looked like before the CCP, And they use

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Speaker 13: this term the old society and describe it it's something

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Speaker 13: just so hellish that I should feel so grateful that

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Speaker 13: now I live under CCP because this is what.

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Speaker 8: They call new society, and that what they do the

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Speaker 8: same thing. America's past is slavery, and that's slavery never died.

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Speaker 8: We never had a civil war, we never had a

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Speaker 8: civil rights movement. The slavery is still today. It's still here.

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Speaker 8: And that's what's in slaves. So many people's mind, they

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Speaker 8: feel like they are still slaves. That is absolutely the

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Speaker 8: purpose to control their mind.

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Speaker 2: That's such a good point. They want. They have to

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Speaker 2: castigate and shame and demoralize us as a civilization and

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Speaker 2: a country that has I would argue, the proudest history

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Speaker 2: of any modern country in the world, maybe throughout all

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Speaker 2: of human history. And they that's what makes the challenge

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Speaker 2: so difficult for them. But they're succeeding in these crazy

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Speaker 2: ways that you would have never imagined. And the fruit

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Speaker 2: of it is a sand Piker, the fruit of it

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Speaker 2: is Chevalier, the fruit of it is Nitia Rahman. The

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Speaker 2: rise of DSA. What is your warning to the country

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Speaker 2: as you see these DSA candidates actually gain political power? Gee,

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Speaker 2: what is your warning?

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Speaker 9: And I have one thing I will really add this

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Speaker 9: is something very important.

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Speaker 8: In the past, we really talk a lot about cultural Marxism,

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Speaker 8: like at the Long March through institutions, because they failed

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Speaker 8: to implement the economic Marxism because the working class do

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Speaker 8: not buy their bush. The working class actually get richer

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Speaker 8: to become middle class. So but recently they have been

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Speaker 8: bringing up this class struggle. They have been bring up

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Speaker 8: this economic Marxism as well. I think it's because the

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Speaker 8: Democratic Party the left have successfully created American proletariat through

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Speaker 8: the welfare policy. They have orig about people who depend

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Speaker 8: on the government who never get ahead, because that's the plan,

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Speaker 8: you never get a hit. Now that we imported tens

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Speaker 8: of millions of illegals, now.

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Speaker 9: They join the group Prolitari.

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Speaker 8: That's why now they are doing both culture Marxism and

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Speaker 8: the economic Marxism.

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Speaker 2: And I think such a good yeah really where yeah?

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Speaker 2: G Van Fleet, author of Maide in America, The Hidden

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Speaker 2: History of how the US enabled Communist China and created

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Speaker 2: our greatest threat. Thank you, Jevan Fleet. You're such a

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Speaker 2: tremendous asset in this fight against the rise of far left,

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Speaker 2: far left radicalism. We appreciate you so much.

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Speaker 2: We have a special guest in studio with us today

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Speaker 2: and that is Colin Plume, CEO of Noble Gold Investments

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Speaker 2: Noblegold Investments dot com. Colin, welcome back. Good. We need

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Speaker 2: economic touch points from time to time because there's just

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Speaker 2: so many moving parts in an economy this large, but

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Speaker 2: also geopolitically, there's the energy prices. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot that's going on that's influencing a very dynamic uh

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Speaker 2: uh in volatile economy actually in many ways. And so

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Speaker 2: we're you're here today. I have to start though, because

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Speaker 2: you are the gold guy, you're the silver guy. You're

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Speaker 2: actually probably more famous as the silver guy. But you

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Speaker 2: do a probably maybe even more in gold. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what it is. You tell me they do have

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Speaker 2: gold in the name. Yeah, Noble Gold Investments, So I

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Speaker 2: guess people assume. But you also wrote a book about silver,

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Speaker 2: so you're good at both. Put it that way. So

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Speaker 2: gold is down, it's on sale, silver is down, yes, yeah, correct,

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Speaker 2: first of all, yeah, I totally agree, actually because there

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Speaker 2: was a okay, so two part question. What caused the

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Speaker 2: run up? Yeah, and what's driving this current price dip?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think first was inflation. You know, people saw

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Speaker 14: inflation hit numbers they've never seen before. You saw massive demand,

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Speaker 14: central bank buying demand, which is still continued, but we're

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Speaker 14: seeing I mean, this demand from central banks has gone.

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Speaker 15: For six years in a row. Whether you know, they've bought.

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Speaker 14: About a thousand tons of gold per year to give

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Speaker 14: you an idea. For five years before that, central banks

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Speaker 14: have bought between two hundred and fifty and three hundred tons,

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Speaker 14: So they tripled in the last six years of buying.

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Speaker 2: And really per year, per year, and a lot.

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Speaker 14: Of it has to do with them getting away from

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Speaker 14: the dollar. Also, it's become an ultra pative currency for

715
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Speaker 14: countries with sanctions, right, We've seen it happen with Russia,

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Speaker 14: We're seeing it with Iran.

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Speaker 15: So there is you know, that is the angle around

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Speaker 15: some of the sanctions is to trade oil for gold.

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Speaker 14: So you saw that dynamic happen. So you saw this

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Speaker 14: massive run up for gold where it was fifty three

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Speaker 14: hundred dollars an ounce silver was one hundred and twenty

722
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Speaker 14: dollars ounce, and then you saw a massive pullback in

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Speaker 14: February and March, and you saw the most selling of

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Speaker 14: paper gold than we've ever seen in the market GLD

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Speaker 14: SLD the paper forms the most selling.

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Speaker 2: How does that work? By the way, So you get

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Speaker 2: a paper certificate and the gold is stored in some

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Speaker 2: vault somewhere.

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Speaker 14: Well, that's what's supposed to happen. What's been happening is

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Speaker 14: last year people actually want a delivery, and that was

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Speaker 14: another reason the price went up, is because there's tons of.

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Speaker 15: Articles about this. But basically people.

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Speaker 14: Decided, you know what, I don't want the contract, I

734
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Speaker 14: want physical. They went to the London Exchange and went

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Speaker 14: to Comax they wanted and they couldn't deliver, and that

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Speaker 14: created more hysteria and excitement because they basically said it's

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Speaker 14: going to be two months.

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Speaker 15: Well, the people thought their gold was backed.

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Speaker 14: Ounced for ounce right like one contract per but it's

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Speaker 14: never been. It's always been that way. It's always been

741
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Speaker 14: the suppression of the gold price. So there was this

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Speaker 14: run up till till January, and then you saw it

743
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Speaker 14: in March, April and May, just a massive paper selling GLD, SLV,

744
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Speaker 14: people got out of positions, hedge fund managers, people that

745
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Speaker 14: were in positions they wanted to get out of. You

746
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Speaker 14: just saw this massive liquidation. Now, the interesting thing is

747
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Speaker 14: on the physical side, you didn't see it.

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Speaker 15: We didn't see it.

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Speaker 14: The industry didn't see massive amounts of selling. It was

750
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Speaker 14: really just the paper selling, which does affect the price.

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Speaker 14: So you had the price.

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Speaker 15: Go back down.

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Speaker 14: So now gold's below four thousand and you have silver

754
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Speaker 14: blow below sixty. Obviously silver's having a great day to day.

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Speaker 14: It's up over two dollars today. Gold's up pretty massive

756
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Speaker 14: today too. But it's sort of what happens in the

757
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Speaker 14: gold market is you have these massive run up based

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Speaker 14: on news, and then there was this leveling off and

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Speaker 14: then I think the last thing that maybe have hurt

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Speaker 14: the goal price, but I don't think it's true. Is

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Speaker 14: this idea that Kevin worsh maybe is gonna be hawkish.

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Speaker 14: I think a lot of people have been talking about

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Speaker 14: that that he's going to raise interest rates potentially or

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Speaker 14: he's not going to, you know, expand the money supply.

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Speaker 14: I think he is going to expand the money supply.

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Speaker 2: But if he expands the money supply.

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Speaker 15: What happens to that would be very positive for goal.

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Speaker 14: I think how he's coming into this job, this is

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Speaker 14: a massive job, and right now with the CPI going up,

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Speaker 14: what are his levers? What can he do if everyone

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Speaker 14: says he's going to raise interest rate? If he raises

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Speaker 14: interest rates, it costs our government more money to borrow.

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Speaker 14: That's not good for us either. It also affects the

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Speaker 14: real estate market also, commercial real estate, residential, all everything

775
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Speaker 14: would really be hindered by higher rates. That's not what

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Speaker 14: we need right now in the economy. So what are

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Speaker 14: the other levers that he can do? And so, in

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Speaker 14: my opinion, I've been saying it for a whiles, I

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Speaker 14: think he'll do some type of quantitative easing to open

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Speaker 14: up the money supply to get the markets moving, which

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Speaker 14: is what we did in two thousand and nine. Similar idea,

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Speaker 14: Right we had a credit crisis. How do you get

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Speaker 14: more money in the markets? How do you stimulate without

784
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Speaker 14: moving interest rates? So that's one lever.

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Speaker 2: So the gold market sees increased money supply and they say,

786
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Speaker 2: you know, more supply on the market. That means the

787
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Speaker 2: value of the average dollars going down, going down. So

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Speaker 2: therefore the price of gold will go up.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, correct, And and so that's the real question is

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Speaker 14: what's going to happen over the next few weeks.

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Speaker 15: So I think you've.

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Speaker 14: Had all these things happening that have pushed the price

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Speaker 14: of gold down, but we're seeing a lot of normalcy

794
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Speaker 14: in the trading range now where you're seeing buyers in

795
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Speaker 14: the thirty nine hundred, that that's becoming kind of the normal.

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Speaker 14: Obviously there's always the risk you go down to thirty six,

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Speaker 14: thirty seven hundred, but you know, you see institutions like

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Speaker 14: Bank of America came out earlier, sir, they were predicting

799
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Speaker 14: they've had analyst saying three hundred dollars silver in January,

800
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Speaker 14: and now we're at fifty eight. So I think there's

801
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Speaker 14: I think we're in a more of a normal range.

802
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Speaker 15: Now we went to like extreme. I think it leveled

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Speaker 15: off and now we'll see why.

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Speaker 5: Maybe this is the basic question, why do gold and

805
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Speaker 5: silver seem to perform and they are aligned, but they

806
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Speaker 5: do perform differently even though they're both primarily investment metals

807
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Speaker 5: to my understanding, So what why would silver go up

808
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Speaker 5: to three hundred, which would be tripling its price while

809
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Speaker 5: gold is not.

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Speaker 2: Usually silver is used in a lot of technology it is.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think there's first of all,

812
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Speaker 14: silver you have to think about is all the potential

813
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Speaker 14: with war. I mean, the reason our government last year,

814
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Speaker 14: the US government and the Chinese government made silver a

815
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Speaker 14: strategic metal is because with these expanding areas of war

816
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Speaker 14: that we're going to they use silver in Tomahawk missiles

817
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Speaker 14: and a lot of technology, drones, all this. So as

818
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Speaker 14: these things continue to grow, the US government needs it,

819
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Speaker 14: the Chinese government needs it. So when they make a

820
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Speaker 14: strategic metal, they're saying like we're going to limit the

821
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Speaker 14: amount that we're going to get rid of. We're going

822
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Speaker 14: to keep as much as we can. And we've you know,

823
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Speaker 14: the government has has borrowed and seized silver over history.

824
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Speaker 14: In nineteen forty two, we were running out of copper

825
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Speaker 14: during World War two, as you know, they borrowed fourteen

826
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Speaker 14: thousand ounces from the US Treasury for for silver for

827
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Speaker 14: military type uses. So I think that that production is

828
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Speaker 14: going to continue to go. But to answer your question,

829
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Speaker 14: I think when you have six years of central bank buying.

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Speaker 15: Of gold, silver did lag.

831
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Speaker 14: Silver did eventually lag, But what eventually what happened is

832
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Speaker 14: that once we realize that there's so many strategic uses

833
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Speaker 14: that we needed for silver, then you saw the price

834
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Speaker 14: start to go back up. There's always that one hundred

835
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Speaker 14: to one, you know, eighty to one seventy one gold,

836
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Speaker 14: the silver ratio that we've talked about a lot, and

837
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Speaker 14: it's you know, we're in a different range than we've been,

838
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Speaker 14: but I think that silver typically lags behind gold.

839
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Speaker 2: Okay, so we got forty five seconds here. Predictions for

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Speaker 2: interest rates, Yeah, in the next six months, Predictions for

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Speaker 2: the price of gold.

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Speaker 15: Those yeah, I actually don't.

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Speaker 14: I don't think he's gonna have any way to do

844
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Speaker 14: anything with interest rates. In my opinion, I don't think

845
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Speaker 14: he's going to raise I think that would really crush

846
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Speaker 14: a lot of the markets, and it would make our

847
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Speaker 14: borrowing more expensive. I think gold this year, I would

848
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Speaker 14: say probably close to forty eight hundred and forty nine

849
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Speaker 14: hundred for gold, and I would say silver probably breaks.

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Speaker 14: I would say probably close to seventy this year. I

851
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Speaker 14: think there's gonna be a big run.

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Speaker 2: The current price of silver is fifty nine thirteen.

853
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Speaker 14: Yeah, so I think a seventy silver is a realistic range.

854
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Speaker 14: The buying seems to be pretty, and we're seeing a

855
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Speaker 14: lot of people that sold at one hundred and twenty

856
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Speaker 14: silver and five fifty four hundred gold.

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Speaker 15: They're coming back in. So I think you're going to

858
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Speaker 15: see a lot of people by the.

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Speaker 2: Day they took their profits. Now they're going to reinvest it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love that Blake. What you got there in your hand?

861
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Speaker 2: This is is that a World Cup trophy? Not quite?

862
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Speaker 2: It is one kilogram of gold, so it's very heavy, colonized.

863
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Speaker 2: He brings this the beautiful, this bullion, but he doesn't

864
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Speaker 2: let us keep it, and it's very frustrating, you know,

865
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Speaker 2: but it is beautiful. I will tell you. It is

866
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Speaker 2: like when you actually see it and hold it up close,

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Speaker 2: it's it's like a you understand why the ancients all

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Speaker 2: gravitated gravitated gold. It is like a chill is not

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Speaker 2: a lot that's amazing.

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Speaker 5: That's like one of the weights that Obama's you know,

871
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Speaker 5: lifting in the funny video of him. But it feels

872
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Speaker 5: a lot heavier. So there's five times as much of

873
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 5: this in that World Cup trophy.

874
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so. So how much is the World Cup

875
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 2: trophy worth? And they say gold value has soared although

876
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: it is down in the last six months. It's it's

877
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: up year over year.

878
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 9: Yeah.

879
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 16: So compared to the first World Cup, the first World

880
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 16: Cup for or not the first the last World Cup,

881
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 16: the trophy was worth liken know, two hundred thousand or

882
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 16: two hundred and fifty thousand, and.

883
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 15: Now the trophy is worth like seven hundred and eight hundred.

884
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: That's almost a million dollars that being held up in

885
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: the hands right there, which is yeah, and Trump was

886
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: holding it, you know, he loves that.

887
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 15: Trump put Yeah, he was. He's gonna walk.

888
00:46:59,320 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: Away with that.

889
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 14: So do they get to keep it? They do not

890
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 14: get to keep it. That It is actually fascinating. You think,

891
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 14: like all the money made that they said is the

892
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 14: most profitable. It's like sporting of the team in all time,

893
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 14: Like what's seven hundred and eighty thousand to the winning country.

894
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 14: It feels like they should get it, but no, FIFA

895
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 14: gets it back, so so they and then they get

896
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 14: a replica, They get a replicaid So replica.

897
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: Is it at least also made of gold or no?

898
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 5: No, no, it's probably they get like one of my

899
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 5: youth like soccer trophies.

900
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: It's made of gold tinge plasta. Yeah, it is all right,

901
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: So that's that's a fascinating bit of trivia there. But

902
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: so that did you have well I was I was

903
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: going to ask.

904
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 5: So we were talking about people are increasingly getting delivery

905
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 5: of gold of silver. They're they're wanting to physically claim it. Yeah,

906
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 5: someone I know I was telling you about they were

907
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 5: investing in gold and then they discovered they were talking

908
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 5: to a friend as a jeweler, not with us, not

909
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 5: with you, not with you, but they were looking at

910
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 5: it and this was gold that was in the case,

911
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 5: like one of those perth mint ounces. And our jeweler

912
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 5: friend looks at it and says, that's fake. And they

913
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 5: they tested it and it turned out it was plated tungsten.

914
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 5: So what do people need to look out for? What

915
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 5: are the traps people can fall into?

916
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, No, I mean I think it's you gotta go.

917
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 14: You got to read the reviews of the dealer. You know,

918
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 14: you got to make sure that they've been around for

919
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 14: a long time. You got to make sure that. I

920
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 14: think that's interesting that I'm finding out the last two

921
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 14: years with dealers going out of business.

922
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,959
Speaker 15: If a dealer says they won't buy it back.

923
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: Probably this is this is probably a red friend because yeah,

924
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: finish your thought.

925
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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, so a they've been around for a while.

926
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 15: Uh B. If the price is too good to be true,

927
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 15: it probably is. That's I mean.

928
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 14: Sometimes on eBay you hear these like oh, I bought

929
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 14: it three hundred dollars below the spot price, Like, well, it's.

930
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: Probably fake and you know, and you said, make sure

931
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: they're willing to buy it back.

932
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 15: Make sure they're willing to buy it.

933
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

934
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 15: They If they won't buy it back, that's probably an indy.

935
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Speaker 2: Care And I take it you're willing to buy it.

936
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Speaker 15: We buy everything.

937
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 5: Well, let's say this is informal, like it's a friend

938
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Speaker 5: who has you know, maybe they inherited it or something,

939
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 5: and they're just they're willing.

940
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: To sell it off. What should you what should a

941
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: person like that do to make sure they don't accidentally.

942
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think the key accidentally sell it for the

943
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 14: wrong price.

944
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 5: Or no, or accidentally buy a fake like maybe the

945
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Speaker 5: person doesn't know it's fake themselves.

946
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I think the key if you buy it

947
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 14: from a coin or punshot, they can test it right there.

948
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 15: Okay, so that you could get it tested, and you

949
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 15: should before you take it out of it that would

950
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 15: be the first thing. You know.

951
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 14: Obviously, a dealer like us, we're shipping millions and millions

952
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 14: of dollars and we get everything tested. I mentioned, we

953
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 14: do buy back from time to time from other people

954
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 14: that are our clients, and we do get fakes in

955
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 14: and fortunately we have to call them and tell them

956
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 14: that they're fake.

957
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 15: But they know, you know, they're trying to sell us fakes.

958
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 2: And I haven't even thought about this.

959
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a part of the business you have to

960
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 15: be wearing.

961
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: But you you you were mentioned in the break that

962
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: one of like the big brand names in this ro Capital,

963
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: Rosland Capital went out of business.

964
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Speaker 15: Went out of business.

965
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened.

966
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 14: Yeah, And it's one hundred million dollar bankruptcy and you

967
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 14: can go online and read.

968
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Speaker 15: About it and it's it's terrible what's happened because the

969
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 15: biggest creditors.

970
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 14: On the bankruptcy are clients, unfortunately, and they are people

971
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 14: that that this person just didn't deliver, he never delivered

972
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 14: on and and and it happens a lot because what

973
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 14: happens in a rising market is that you see a

974
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 14: company try to play the market and they're floating. There's

975
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 14: a lot of floating and so sometimes I talk to

976
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 14: people and they're like, oh, they haven't delivered in sixty days,

977
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 14: or they haven't there there's no reason that you should

978
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 14: take sixty days. I mean we're shipping the same week.

979
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 14: Sometimes I can ship the next day. There's no reason

980
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 14: it should take that long. I would be concerned if

981
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 14: anybody's telling you or if you're about to do a

982
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 14: trade and they're like, it's going to take six weeks

983
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 14: or eight weeks. They're they're doing they're holding your money

984
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 14: and they're playing the market and they're trying to time.

985
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 15: The market and trying to play catch up, ketchup. And

986
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 15: that's yeah.

987
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 14: Yeah, and listen, I don't know the whole story with

988
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 14: that company, but yeah, they were in businesses two thousand

989
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 14: and eight.

990
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 15: They were all over Fox News William Devane. Yeah, Fox News.

991
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 14: Is actually one of the creditors they're they're in for

992
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 14: like two million ode like on you know TV commercials.

993
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 14: There's a bunch of other advertising companies.

994
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's well, this is why we work

995
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 2: with you because you know, when we started, you know,

996
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: the show, it was like so many shysters, like people

997
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Speaker 2: don't realize, like when we launched a Charlie Kirk show.

998
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Speaker 2: There was all these like people that were like, oh,

999
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Speaker 2: we want to partner with you. When to partner with you?

1000
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: And we had to like filter through like a ton

1001
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Speaker 2: of noise, and you know that's when we found you.

1002
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Speaker 2: And we're so grateful. So you've been with us like

1003
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Speaker 2: basically since the very beginning and super grateful. So if

1004
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Speaker 2: you want to check out what Colin does, noble goold

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Speaker 2: slash Kirk. I just want to get that in shameless

1007
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Speaker 2: plug because all we're talking about just fake gold perth

1008
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: things and like bankrupt like this, Colin does business the

1009
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: right way. So but I did want to bring up

1010
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: this one other thing. The Treasury unveils US Mint seventeen

1011
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: seventy six to twenty twenty six one dollar coin. This

1012
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 2: is this is like new coin news. This is the

1013
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: trolley geek out on.

1014
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is not a golden coin. This is this

1015
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 5: is like a zinc coin.

1016
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 14: It's copper copperly copper, yeah, it's it's it's.

1017
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 15: A commemorative coin.

1018
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 14: I think it'll be worth money for sure. People will

1019
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 14: buy it and they'll sell it. I think it's really fun,

1020
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 14: but don't mistake this for actually having gold in it.

1021
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 14: I hope maybe they will. Maybe the demand will be

1022
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 14: high and they'll.

1023
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: They'll release like the gold version.

1024
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 15: Yeah, gold version or a silver version of it would

1025
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 15: be really great. I think they should absolutely do it.

1026
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 15: But that is plated.

1027
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 14: And and there's a lot of stuff out where people

1028
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 14: don't realize. There's advertising where they'll say like twenty four

1029
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 14: carrot gold and then the coin will be like fitt

1030
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 14: it's maybe has you know a play like we were

1031
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 14: talking about how food they put gold on top, Like

1032
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 14: that's what you're buying if you want to buy the

1033
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 14: real thing, that's that's what we do.

1034
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,479
Speaker 4: That's what we find.

1035
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: I did expect the conversation going in this direction, but

1036
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1037
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1039
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Speaker 2: protect inflation, the d dollarization movement. You've got to diversify

1040
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Speaker 2: your portfolio if you have any type of money, if

1041
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Speaker 2: you're you get any type of liquid assets, it's a

1042
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1043
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 2: can trust. This is like terrifying to hear this stuff.

1044
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1045
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1046
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Speaker 2: always have shot us straight. You such you, and I

1047
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: mean you bring all this beautiful gold that you.

1048
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1049
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1050
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1052
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Speaker 2: So check it out, check it out, callin, thanks for

1053
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Speaker 2: coming in.

1054
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Speaker 15: Thanks man.

1055
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: If you could go back in time and buy oil

1056
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Speaker 2: before the world relied on it, would you? Of course

1057
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Speaker 2: you would, anybody would, So why aren't you buying silver

1058
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Speaker 2: right now? The people who recognized oil early didn't just

1059
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Speaker 2: make money, They got ahead of one of the biggest

1060
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Speaker 2: economic shifts in history, and today a similar opportunity is

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1065
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Speaker 2: enough that the average American can start accumulating it right now.

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Speaker 2: That's why investors are turning to silver to protect against

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Speaker 2: future depends on all right, Blake, take us away?

1074
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Speaker 5: Alrighty Well, as Charlie likes to say, never black pill.

1075
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 5: No matter how bad it gets, you can't black pill,

1076
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Speaker 5: which is of course, when you get dispirited about things

1077
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Speaker 5: and decide it's all over and we can't win. You

1078
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Speaker 5: never accept that, and that's one reason Charlie was able

1079
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Speaker 5: to achieve so much. He wouldn't blackpill. And we have

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Speaker 5: another person joining us now with a similar message. He's

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Speaker 5: the author of a book that is called white Pill,

1082
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Speaker 5: which is the opposite of black pilling. And he's also

1083
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Speaker 5: a old colleague of mine when I was at the

1084
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Speaker 5: Daily Caller, Jacade Ago, Well, sorry, I just can't help

1085
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Speaker 5: myself So his name is Scott Greer. He's the author

1086
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Speaker 5: of the highly respected sub Stack, and he is also

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Speaker 5: the author of White Pill, which is from our friends

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Speaker 5: at Passage Publishing with Lomez, and he joins us now, Scott, welcome.

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Speaker 2: What is the white pill for all of our viewers.

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Speaker 7: Well, the white field offered by my book is something

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Speaker 7: to discuss about how the transformation of conservatism has happened.

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Speaker 7: If we go back ten years ago, fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 7: conservatism was extremely different from what it is today. It

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Speaker 7: was focused on what I call business first republicanism. It

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Speaker 7: was more focused on Paul Ryanism. It did not care

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Speaker 7: about the cultural or civilizational issues that the right now

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Speaker 7: focuses on and the Trump administration now focuses on and

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Speaker 7: that turning point USA and Charlie Kirk focused on. It

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Speaker 7: was obsessed with fiscal conservatism, more wars, more unnecessary things

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Speaker 7: that only mattered to corporate donors rather than matter to

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Speaker 7: the base. And so my book aims to describe how

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Speaker 7: conservatism change over the last decade. And it has many

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Speaker 7: characters that would be familiar to your show, such as

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Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk as being one of the instrumental figures and

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Speaker 7: pushing the right in a more white pilled direction, as

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Speaker 7: they would say, and now being a more combative force

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Speaker 7: that takes on the left on numerous controversial topics that

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Speaker 7: conservatives in the past would have run away from, such

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Speaker 7: as immigration, such as anti white racism exactly.

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Speaker 5: And it's funny because it's such a personal story. I

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Speaker 5: remember Andrew, we'd talk to Charlie and sometimes people would

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Speaker 5: bring up Charlie was more pro immigration in the past,

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Speaker 5: and he was so frank about He'd.

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Speaker 2: Say, that was bad Charlie.

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Speaker 5: That was that was old Charlie, and his views evolved

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Speaker 5: in a positive direction.

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Speaker 2: He was very frank about that.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's because of what your book is about, Scott,

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Speaker 5: which is I think it was it was a thought

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Speaker 5: that was waiting to be spoken by Donald Trump on

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Speaker 5: the campaign trail, but also in spaces online. They just

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Speaker 5: people weren't hearing this from their leaders, and so it

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Speaker 5: was the thought wasn't it wasn't going through people's heads.

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Speaker 2: I remember specifically when Trump came down and started talking

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Speaker 2: about immigration. This is something that I had been pretty

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Speaker 2: radicalized on for years. Actually, I was living in southern

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Speaker 2: California seeing the chaos of a culture that had no

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Speaker 2: through line and had no cohesiveness, and I just remember thinking,

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Speaker 2: you can't say these things, so I guess we can't

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Speaker 2: have them. I guess we can't even fight for them

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Speaker 2: because nobody's going to stand up for them. And then Trump,

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Speaker 2: to Blake's point, stood up and said it, and at

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Speaker 2: least an iteration of it. It started the ball rolling,

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Speaker 2: and I remember just feeling the sense of relief that

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Speaker 2: somebody finally said it right, that they're not sending their best,

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Speaker 2: they're sending their rapists. And also, and I suppose some

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Speaker 2: of them are good people, a ligne he was so

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Speaker 2: excoriated for and so attacked for. But it lit a

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Speaker 2: fuse that I think, I still don't think it's fully formed.

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Speaker 2: Jet Scott, Where in this journey are we well?

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Speaker 7: The journey we're now at is that when conservative politicians

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Speaker 7: want to demonstrate their conservative buono fides, to demonstrate that

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Speaker 7: they are the most right wing candidate, what do they do?

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Speaker 7: They demand immigration restriction. We saw that earlier this year

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Speaker 7: when we had calls to repeal the Heart Celler Act

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Speaker 7: and impose a massive reduction in immigration, and this was

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Speaker 7: endorsed by Ron De Santis who has a good nose

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Speaker 7: for knowing what's a good way to sell himself to

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Speaker 7: the conservative public, are knowing what the conservative base once

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Speaker 7: and in the past the way, if you look at

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Speaker 7: the Tea Party, what they thought is the most right

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Speaker 7: wing way to demonstrate themselves. The most conservative candidate was

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Speaker 7: calling for cutting the Interior Department or something, or calling

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Speaker 7: for some type of fiscal conservatism that didn't really animate

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Speaker 7: the base and did not really capture what the public

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Speaker 7: mood is or address the civilizational issues that threaten America.

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Speaker 7: But today they now go towards immigration. And even though

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Speaker 7: there are still rumblings over whenever a few backbench Republicans

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Speaker 7: are a few notorious pro immigration Republicans proposed some new

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Speaker 7: immigration bill or amnesty bill, they have very little chance

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Speaker 7: of passing, unlike in twenty thirteen, where the entire Republican

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Speaker 7: Party leadership says the only way the GOP can survive,

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Speaker 7: and this was the purpose of the twenty twelve election autopsy.

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Speaker 7: The GOP put out that year of saying the only

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Speaker 7: way we can survive is if we pass amnecy is

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Speaker 7: if we legalize millions of illegal aliens. This is the

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Speaker 7: only way the party can survive in the future. Donald

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Speaker 7: Trump presented a different future for the party, and that

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Speaker 7: alternative one in twenty sixteen and one in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 7: the alternative that never won. The alternative never animated the

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Speaker 7: base and never capture the imagination of the American public

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Speaker 7: because it did not address serious issues that ordinary people

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Speaker 7: are facing, which the New Right does address these issues.

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Speaker 7: And so I think at this stance we're at now,

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Speaker 7: at conservative politicians, Republican politicians in the past would even

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Speaker 7: never dare talking about restricting legal immigration, but in order

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Speaker 7: to demonstrate that they are the most conservative, most right

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Speaker 7: wing guy out there, they are all eager to say,

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Speaker 7: we want to cut immigration, and that's a huge positivelopment

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Speaker 7: for the right.

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Speaker 5: I love that you mentioned that autopsy. It's so easy

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Speaker 5: for people to forget how bad things were in the past.

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Speaker 5: That yeah, years ago, not that long. In the grand

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Speaker 5: scheme of things, that was the line.

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Speaker 2: We need amnesty.

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Speaker 5: That is the only way we can win Hispanic voters

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Speaker 5: in They're the future. And so I love that you

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Speaker 5: mentioned that, because not only did we go a different

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Speaker 5: path thanks to Donald Trump and others who led the way,

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Speaker 5: we did it, and we won more of the Hispanic

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Speaker 5: vote than we'd ever won in recent history by doing that.

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Speaker 5: So the subtitle of your book is the Online Right

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Speaker 5: and the making of the of Trump's America.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 5: And so I remember when after the twenty sixteen election,

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Speaker 5: the left pretty accurately concluded Trump was able to win

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Speaker 5: because of an uncensored Twitter that enabled people to hear

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Speaker 5: his message, hear people supporting his message, even though TV

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Speaker 5: was condemning him.

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Speaker 2: They cracked down on it.

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Speaker 5: They had a ton of censorship in twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 5: then in twenty twenty two, Elon Musk buys Twitter, rebrands

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Speaker 5: it as x we get a big reduction censorship and

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Speaker 5: Trump is able.

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Speaker 2: To roar back.

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Speaker 5: How important is it for or the new conservative movement

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Speaker 5: to sustain itself that we have these low censorship online

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Speaker 5: spaces to share our message.

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Speaker 7: It's extremely important. If you look back into the twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty election, I mean, the liberals and Democrats were trying

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Speaker 7: to ensure the election went a certain way, and one

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Speaker 7: of the ways that they made sure that is tech censorship.

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Speaker 7: And even at that time there could be random Trump

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Speaker 7: tweets and he was still president of the United States

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Speaker 7: this time, and Twitter, which was what EXAs called back then.

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Speaker 7: Some may forget that they would censor Trump post, they

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Speaker 7: would sensor Trump tweets. There was even advertisements about illegal

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Speaker 7: immigration that Facebook and others would say, this is fake news,

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Speaker 7: and then they would try to censor that. Even think

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Speaker 7: about how they suppressed the information around Hunter Biden's laptop,

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Speaker 7: which all these so called security experts came out to say, oh,

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Speaker 7: this is Russian disinformation, this is totally fake news, when

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Speaker 7: we all knew was real, but they utilized that talking

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Speaker 7: point to then suppress and discussion about Hunter Biden's laptop.

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Speaker 7: So with when you had censorship, it became very hard

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Speaker 7: for the right to win and it became very hard

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Speaker 7: for these ideas to get out there. And after Trump won,

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Speaker 7: there was this massive censorship wave all across social media

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Speaker 7: because they didn't want this to repeat itself. They did

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Speaker 7: not want Trump to win another term. They did not

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Speaker 7: want someone like Trump to have even have the chance

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Speaker 7: of winning again. But thanks to Elon Musk and buying

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Speaker 7: up X, it set a new standard for tech, and

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Speaker 7: it set and it allowed for more free speech to emerge,

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Speaker 7: and it countered censorship, and it allowed Trump to win

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty four, despite the massive opposition towards him,

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Speaker 7: despite all these legal cases against him, despite all this

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Speaker 7: outrage over January sixth, and numerous other things that the

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Speaker 7: liberal media had whipped up against Trump, he was able

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Speaker 7: to win. And no one would have predicted this. In

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty one. It was been thought unthinkable that Trump

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Speaker 7: could come back and win the presidency in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 7: but he was able to do so by the new

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Speaker 7: pro free speech environment allowed by social media. And that's

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Speaker 7: why it's very important to combat censorship anywhere it can

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Speaker 7: take place, and to be very concerned if we try

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Speaker 7: to go back to late twenty ten's level censorship.

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Speaker 2: your friend Andrews sent you all right, Scott, so you

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Speaker 2: have your Your sub stack is pretty widely read. I

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Speaker 2: know this because every time you publish an article it

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Speaker 2: ends up getting sent to me by one way or another.

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Speaker 2: And you you've turned going to term uh insane clown party,

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Speaker 2: which I have to say feels really relevant. There there

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Speaker 2: is this rise, and maybe it's not a rise, maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe from your POV it's always been there. I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of still coming to grips with it. Obviously, we

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Speaker 2: had Q and all these things, and we have been

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Speaker 2: lied to a lot, right COVID hunter Biden's laptop, things

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Speaker 2: that were censored from us. Where do you perceive the

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Speaker 2: right being right now, this new right, this online right.

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Speaker 2: As far as its relationship with the facts, evidence and proof,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's.

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Speaker 7: An interesting relationship they have with facts, evidence and proof.

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Speaker 7: The Internet does allow a lot of freedom, and it

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Speaker 7: also allows people to invent their own reality, which the

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Speaker 7: Insane Clown Party has done a fantastic job of inventing

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Speaker 7: their own reality. But it presents a very exciting way

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Speaker 7: of showing the news. If you go to the news

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Speaker 7: and it's all data and polling and elections and that,

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Speaker 7: that's not as exciting. But imagine that if every part

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Speaker 7: of the news is a new soap opera or a

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Speaker 7: new spy thriller, or even that there's a supernatural element,

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Speaker 7: like this random murder might have been the work of

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Speaker 7: some type of monster or some sort. So they really

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Speaker 7: like these ideas because it makes the news far more exciting,

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Speaker 7: and a lot of the audience loves that. And one

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Speaker 7: of the things one of the challenges with alternative media

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Speaker 7: or independent media outside of the mainstream media is that

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Speaker 7: a lot of the audience wants you to challenge and

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Speaker 7: question established narratives and the establishment itself, which is usually

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Speaker 7: a good thing because as you pointed out with around COVID,

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Speaker 7: around what they've said about immigration and numerous other issues

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Speaker 7: are even look at how they portrayed the George Floyd Revolution.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of reasons and a lot of ground

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Speaker 7: to challenge them totally. But a lot of people want

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Speaker 7: you to go further and create your own spy thriller

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Speaker 7: out of every news item or especially soap operas. So

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Speaker 7: people get into this and that really what their main

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Speaker 7: concerns become is whether UFOs are controlling bridge destructions are

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Speaker 7: what there might be some you know, space lasers involved

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Speaker 7: in wildfires in California. That's always a big thing, which

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Speaker 7: in the past, you know, if someone's blaming space lasers

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Speaker 7: for wildfires, they'd be like, that's nuts. But then if

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Speaker 7: you go on X and if there's ever a wildfire

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Speaker 7: going on, space lasers are at the top of the

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Speaker 7: list of culprits. It's even the same if there's a

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Speaker 7: new hurricane afoot are some other major natural disaster. Weather

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Speaker 7: machines are now a primary culprit for why this happened.

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Speaker 7: You even saw this last year in the tragic flooding

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Speaker 7: that happened in Texas everyone. You know, if you're going

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Speaker 7: on X and social media, everyone's starting to blame the

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Speaker 7: weather machines, which you know, I don't think that it

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Speaker 7: would be the weather machine. So it makes but it

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Speaker 7: makes the news far more exciting than just so ordinary

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Speaker 7: retelling of facts, and that's why people like it.

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Speaker 5: So, Scott, we were just discussing the role censorship plate.

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Speaker 5: I think if you're the left, you can react to

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Speaker 5: something nutty like this and say, well, let's just let's

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Speaker 5: censor crazy stuff.

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Speaker 2: So people are protected.

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Speaker 5: But both because we generally oppose censorship, and also because

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Speaker 5: we know censorship will immediately be used to suppress important,

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Speaker 5: true things that need to be said about immigration and

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Speaker 5: so on. How does the right deal with with this

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Speaker 5: issue where there are a lot of people who are

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Speaker 5: going to go towards this siren song of really outlandish conspiracies,

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Speaker 5: sort of untethered from facts, the soap operification of politics.

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Speaker 5: In one of your recent articles is could insane clown populism,

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Speaker 5: the insane clown party take over the right?

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Speaker 2: How do we prevent it? If not through censorship?

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Speaker 7: I think you challenge it, especially with you established Republican

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Speaker 7: politician who air these insane theories and comments that you

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Speaker 7: challenge them and saying we're not going to go down

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Speaker 7: this silly route. And the left actually has their own

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Speaker 7: problem with conspiratorialism, which they believe that any time that

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Speaker 7: Trump there's another assassination attempt against Trump, it's now a

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Speaker 7: false flag. But hilariously, the right also believes that as well.

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Speaker 7: The ICP believes every insane conspiracy theory the left believes

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Speaker 7: because it's an equal opportunity conspiracy theory believer. So even

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Speaker 7: if things that support the Left like, oh this is

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Speaker 7: another spy thriller, Okay, we're definitely gonna believe in this,

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Speaker 7: even though it's undermining their own side. You know, the

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Speaker 7: Butler assassination attempt is now seen as a false flag

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Speaker 7: the Trump engineered himself to build up support, and right

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Speaker 7: wingers and prominent influencers are into that, and I was like,

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Speaker 7: how does that benefit our own side? So, at least

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Speaker 7: with the left, their conspiratorialism, and they're just having as

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Speaker 7: big of a problem with this. You could see that

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Speaker 7: with Russia Gate and carrying on from there. But most

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Speaker 7: of their conspiracies actually support their side. A lot of

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Speaker 7: our conspiracies undermine our side and encourage our audience to

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Speaker 7: vote for the left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, which is part of the problem our relationship.

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Speaker 2: I do think that, you know, we talked to some

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Speaker 2: young people at our chapter leadership summit. We did these roundtables.

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Speaker 2: Blake and I and the young people are living in

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Speaker 2: almost an alternate reality, right, the memification of everything. It's

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Speaker 2: disassociative from reality. Right. What's the answer to that? We

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Speaker 2: have forty seconds left here, Scott, So sorry for a

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Speaker 2: big question, But how do you combat that? Is it

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Speaker 2: just more speech? You just have to be louder than them.

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Speaker 7: It's just more speech. I think it's presenting your side

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Speaker 7: in a compelling fashion, not shying away from hard truths,

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Speaker 7: and just delivering the truth and the best way you can.

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Speaker 7: And that's the only way. The only way to defeat

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Speaker 7: it is through and to continue on and carrying on

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Speaker 7: the fight, and to not shy away from the fighter

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Speaker 7: challenging it. Sometimes you should just ignore this stuff if

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Speaker 7: it's just like completely out there, but once it gains

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Speaker 7: an audience and it's becomes popular, you have to challenge it.

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Speaker 7: And that's one of the lessons I put forward in

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Speaker 7: my book White Pill, And that's What I hope that

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Speaker 7: people take away as the White Pill is that the

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Speaker 7: truth will always win.

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Speaker 2: That's how exactly do right.

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Speaker 7: Emerge to the forefront, and it will be how we conquer.

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Speaker 5: Exactly the Let me shout out your book here, White

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Speaker 5: Pill by Scott Career. You can find out at Amazon

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Speaker 5: or at Passage Press.

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Speaker 2: It's out today. Give him a look check out his substack.

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Speaker 5: Highly respected on substack, Scott, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 14: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 14: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.