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Speaker 1: Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of

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Speaker 2: Working is a chapter each each session. At the rate

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Speaker 2: we're going might be two verses each session, but so far,

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Speaker 2: so far, it's been a chapter.

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Speaker 3: We're going to chapter two of Genesis.

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Speaker 2: And as you probably know, if you would like to

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Speaker 2: review the stuff, because I give a lot of material,

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Speaker 2: there are tapes of each session outside, just reminding you

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Speaker 2: to if you want to brush up before your next

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Speaker 2: session with me. Okay, I hope that everybody either has

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Speaker 2: brought a Bible or a torah or has a sheet

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Speaker 2: to look on with a companion. But forget what's underlined.

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Speaker 2: I opened up a English translation and found these underlines.

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Speaker 2: They're not mine, and they're not they're not relevant. They

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Speaker 2: might be important, but they're not relevant.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Chapter two in in Genesis. Observing Jews know this no

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Speaker 2: the first first three verses by heart. It is stated

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Speaker 2: every Friday night has been for eons in Jewish history.

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Speaker 2: It is stated at the kidus, at the sanctifying of

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Speaker 2: the drinking of wine on Friday night, the Sabbath for Jews,

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Speaker 2: and it is the heaven and the earth were finished,

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Speaker 2: and all their array. Everybody has slightly different translations, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. On the seventh day, God finished the work

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Speaker 2: that he had been doing, which is or the work

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Speaker 2: that he had made. It's very, very complex, to the

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Speaker 2: point of actually not being fully understandable. I have said

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Speaker 2: this these three verses every week for all my twenty

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Speaker 2: eight years on this planet.

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Speaker 3: Forty three and.

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Speaker 2: As well as one would know Hebrew, it is still

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Speaker 2: difficult to understand. God finished on the seventh day. I'm

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Speaker 2: translating now word the word order and finished. God on

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Speaker 2: the seventh day his work which he made. He rested

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Speaker 2: on the seventh day from all the work which he

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Speaker 2: holy because he rested from all the world work which

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Speaker 2: he created God to make. I have just translated literally

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Speaker 2: so you will understand how complex it is. Complex it is.

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Speaker 2: What does it mean? First of all, what does it

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Speaker 2: mean from all the work that God had made? Why

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Speaker 2: it should say, obviously, and God rested from all his work.

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Speaker 3: What does it mean?

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Speaker 2: In God rested from all his work which he had made.

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Speaker 2: And then it gets worse the last part in number

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Speaker 2: in verse three, because he rested from all his work

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Speaker 2: which he created, which God created to.

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Speaker 3: Do or to make. The last word in the in

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Speaker 2: Is to do or to make in Hebrew, it's the

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Speaker 2: same verb to do and to make. Now what does

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Speaker 2: that mean? He wrested from all the work which he

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Speaker 2: created to do. The general consensus is that this last

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Speaker 2: traditional interpretation. And I have not generally used traditional interpretations.

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Speaker 2: But the traditional interpretation makes sense here even just reading it.

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Speaker 3: By the text, it's God created work for us to do.

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Speaker 2: That we are the partners in the completion of creation.

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Speaker 3: It's not done yet.

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Speaker 2: God has created things, but God created work. In other words,

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Speaker 2: God created things for us to do. That is the

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Speaker 2: single most logical and honest understanding of this very difficult thing,

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Speaker 2: because otherwise, if it had just said and God rested

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Speaker 2: from all his work, it would imploy It's over.

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Speaker 2: But with the creation of us, of the human It

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Speaker 2: is not ended. We continue God's creation. And to go

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Speaker 2: into slightly metaphysical terms, the terms that are used in

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Speaker 2: for example, mystical judaism or fasitic judaism is that we

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Speaker 2: but he has rested from work which he made, and

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Speaker 2: we are the ones to do that work. Now God rests,

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Speaker 2: we take over. This is a very very important thing

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Speaker 2: in our lives because what it's saying as well is

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Speaker 3: A purposeful universe.

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Speaker 2: the first three verses. There is something for every one

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Speaker 2: this world He has rested, and as it were, now

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Speaker 2: we take over. Now does that mean that God does

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Speaker 2: not do anything later? Well, obviously the Bible is filled

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Speaker 2: with things that God does later. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 3: Exodus from Egypt.

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Speaker 2: It seems to me that the maturer we are as people,

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Speaker 2: the more we grow up.

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Speaker 3: And I believe there is an element of growing up,

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Speaker 3: and I'll talk about that and the Garden of Eden.

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Speaker 2: In all of our lives and in humanity collectively, we

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Speaker 2: realize that God has left it for us to do.

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Speaker 2: Not that God doesn't know what we're doing or doesn't

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Speaker 2: care what we're doing. God forbid, God forbid that God

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Speaker 2: shouldn't care what we're doing. But the fact is that

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Speaker 2: it really now is in our hands. God has made

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Speaker 2: the work to do, and now we do it. There

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Speaker 2: is another thing that needs to be stated about the

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Speaker 2: first three verses of chapter two, the word rested from

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Speaker 2: his work. Let's see that or ceased, actually ceased, not rested.

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Speaker 2: What does anybody have other than ceased a word for.

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Speaker 2: And the seventh day, God finished the work that he

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Speaker 2: had been doing, and he walk on the seventh day.

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Speaker 2: I have ceased. What other English words do you have?

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Speaker 3: Rested? You have rested? Okay? I think ceased is more accurate,

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Speaker 2: The Hebrew word for rested third person male. In other words,

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Speaker 2: he rested is shabah shin bet tuff, which are the

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Speaker 3: Shabbat means ceased. The Sabbath.

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Speaker 2: The Hebrew word for Sabbath is the same as the

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Speaker 2: Hebrew word for ceased stopped.

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Speaker 3: That's where it comes from.

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Speaker 2: The Sabbath comes from God's ceasing of work. That is

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Speaker 2: the reason that it is the only ritual in the

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Speaker 3: The Sabbath is.

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Speaker 2: The single most important ritual in Jewish life, biblical life.

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Speaker 2: It is a capital offense to violate the Sabbath the

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Speaker 2: Sabbath of Sabbaths, But the fact remains that the young

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Speaker 2: an announcement by the Jew every week that God created

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Speaker 2: the world. That is why the Sabbath is so important.

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Speaker 2: Every time in history a Jew observed the Sabbath, consciously

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Speaker 2: God created the world. That is how important the Sabbath

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Speaker 2: is in the biblical Jewish mind. It is here nested

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Speaker 2: right in the middle of the creation story. And remember,

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Speaker 2: the creation story is not Jewish per se. It's universal.

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Speaker 2: I made that point last week. It's utterly universal. There

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Speaker 2: is nothing specifically Jewish. But the Sabbath emanates entirely from this.

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Speaker 2: In fact, in the Ten Commandments, there were two versions

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Speaker 2: in the Book of Deuteronomy. In the in the Exodus,

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Speaker 2: and it is because you. Because I created the world

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Speaker 2: in six days, and on the seventh day, God rested

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Speaker 2: the other reason that is given is because you were

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Speaker 2: taken out of Egypt and you couldn't observe a day

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Speaker 2: importance of the Sabbath here is critical. The purpose of

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Speaker 2: not working is as important as working. I can't think

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Speaker 3: You can't produce.

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Speaker 2: God stopped producing the word milacha, which is translated as work.

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Speaker 3: God ceased from his work.

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Speaker 2: The real word for work in Hebrew is a vo da,

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Speaker 2: but that's not the word he used here. Milacha is

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Speaker 2: not truly translatable. It might be that which produces something

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Speaker 2: you can't do on the Sabbath, that which produces something.

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Speaker 3: When you understand it, it is so elevated beyond what.

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Speaker 2: You normally might associate with the prohibitions of the Sabbath.

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Speaker 2: It is to make sure you don't produce something, because

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Speaker 2: do six seventh of the time. You are here to produce.

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Speaker 2: One seventh of the time. You are here not to produce,

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Speaker 2: but merely to live, merely to live, indeed, to ask

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Speaker 2: what were the other six days about? If you work

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Speaker 2: all seven days, how do you know what you have produced?

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Speaker 3: How can you sit back and ask what have I done?

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Speaker 2: You never have the time, as it were, to even

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Speaker 2: enjoy the fruit of what you have labored for the

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Speaker 3: It is critical, it is part of creation.

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Speaker 2: Is Genesis saying it is part of creation to sit

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Speaker 3: What did I produce all of these things for?

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Speaker 2: If you keep working, you are not human, and you

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Speaker 2: are not divine, and you are not free. Because the

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Speaker 2: a slave. The Bible would call you a slave. You

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Speaker 2: may get paid for it, but you're still a slave

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Speaker 2: because you can't stop. If you work all the time,

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Speaker 2: you are not differentiable from a slave. That's why it

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Speaker 2: is so important the Sabbath in biblical life. In Jewish life,

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Speaker 2: Kadham that, one of the great Jewish writers the last century,

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Speaker 2: said it very well. The Sabbath has guarded Israel. More

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Speaker 2: than Israel has guarded the Sabbath. It has kept it

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Speaker 2: is an effect, kept Jews alive. It has kept the

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Speaker 2: idea of It kept the idea of God alive until

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Speaker 2: other religions could carry it further as well, but it

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Speaker 2: kept it alone. Why are you resting? A Greek what

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Speaker 2: Jews a lazy Jews were described by various Greek philosophers

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Speaker 2: as lazy. They rest every seventh day. It was unheard of.

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Speaker 2: And if the Greek what asked you? Why do you

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Speaker 2: do this? Because God did it? God did it, and

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Speaker 2: I'm imitating God. God produced six days and then reflected

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Speaker 2: That is why it is in the Ten Commandments. That

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Speaker 3: I don't think we're richer for it.

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Speaker 2: Frankly, I think that the taking of the time out

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Speaker 3: A good thing.

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Speaker 2: To have silence once a week without radio or television

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Speaker 3: So just a thought on this critical element.

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Speaker 2: In the first three verses of chapter two, verse four says,

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Speaker 2: On the day that God, the Lord made the land

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Speaker 3: Want to say it again. Don't look in because you

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Speaker 2: Listen, please, these are the generations or histories of the heaven, heavens,

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Speaker 2: Confusing, well, First of all, I want to make a

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Speaker 3: This is a refutation.

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Speaker 2: This is as clear a refutation as I could imagine

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Speaker 2: it obvious that I didn't mean twenty four hours? Yome

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Speaker 2: doesn't only mean day.

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Speaker 3: It means time period.

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Speaker 2: And the proof is in this sentence, which you can't

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Speaker 2: the English the word day? In sentence four? Raise your hand?

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Speaker 2: Does anybody you do what translation do you have?

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Speaker 3: The word day. You have the word day in hirsh

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Speaker 3: very good? What do you sorry? Hurts? Hurts? Uses it too?

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Speaker 3: Very ilnest.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the old one. That's the that's the that's

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Speaker 2: the traditional. It's nineteen seventeen Jewish publication Stidy translation.

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Speaker 3: It does well, it doesn't, it doesn't have it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, it doesn't matter. It's there.

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Speaker 2: you believe that this sentence contradicts everything in chapter one,

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Speaker 3: To create everything. Isn't that right? And we just go

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Speaker 2: Therefore, if you hold that day in Genesis means twenty

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Speaker 2: Because chapter two clearly gives you a different story that

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Speaker 2: I don't need to involve you in right now. Well,

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Speaker 2: what has happened here is God has now given a

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Speaker 3: You want to what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And therefore we know immediately.

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Speaker 3: We are also with that God who creates.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But on the other hand, you can't live with compassion alone.

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Speaker 2: Give you an example. If a poor man, a very

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Speaker 2: Compassion dictates, why are you bugging this poor guy for

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Speaker 2: I mean you you're you're a billionaire, and then he

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Speaker 2: can he can barely get by on social security. Compassion says, therefore,

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Speaker 2: throw out the case or rule in favor of the

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Speaker 2: poor man. Justice dictates, Wait.

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Speaker 3: A minut it way.

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Speaker 2: The fact is this poor guy swiped this billionaire's car,

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Speaker 2: and it demands that he pay up.

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Speaker 3: Which do you follow? It's a tough question, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: We are filled with that in our lives. Which do

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Speaker 2: you follow?

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Speaker 3: Justice or compassion?

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Speaker 2: If you wanted some slightly generic difference between conservatives and liberals,

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Speaker 2: you have it right there. Conservatives more concerned with justice,

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Speaker 2: liberals more concerned with compassion. If you are over concerned

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Speaker 2: with one, you will end up with a bad world.

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Speaker 2: Compassion without justice is a terrible world because you have undermined.

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Speaker 2: You have undermined a pillar upon which the world stands.

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Speaker 3: Justice.

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Speaker 2: Justice without compassion is a mean world. You need both,

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Speaker 2: and that is why the Rabbi spoke of the two

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Speaker 2: who have created the world, the two sides of God,

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Speaker 2: one represented by yellow him and one by other night. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: that is introduced here for the first time in this

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Speaker 2: In this verse, I will not go to verses five

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Speaker 2: and six. It would take it would take massive inquiry

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Speaker 2: to make full sense of it.

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Speaker 3: But let me just read it to keep the thing going.

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Speaker 2: When no shrub of the field was yet on earth,

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Speaker 2: and no grasses of the field gets sprouted because God

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Speaker 2: had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was

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Speaker 2: no man to till the soil, but a floated well

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Speaker 2: up from the ground and water.

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Speaker 3: The whole surface of the earth.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but now we get to what really matters. And

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Speaker 2: God formed God Elohim Jehov, Elohim formed or created, not created, formed,

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Speaker 2: made Adam Adam, the man HadAM generic the human would

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Speaker 2: be the best the human or the man afarmin Hadama

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Speaker 2: does from the earth. That's how we were made Va

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Speaker 2: yepah bi apav. And God blew into his nostrils a

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Speaker 2: being again literal nishmatraem the breath of life or and

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Speaker 2: this is an incredibly important ore. Nischmatrayem also means the

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Speaker 2: soul of life. The Hebrew word for soul and breath

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Speaker 2: is the same. So we were given God is a

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Speaker 2: lot of very interesting things here. God creates the human

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Speaker 2: from the earth, breathes into his nostrils the spirit.

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Speaker 3: Of life, if you will, or that would be Rua,

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Speaker 3: which is wind.

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Speaker 2: It's also interesting there's both of them have a living element.

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Speaker 2: But God breathes into his nostrils the breath of life

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Speaker 2: or the or the soul of life. Vayahi Adam, the

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Speaker 2: nepheshka and and the and the man became to came

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Speaker 2: to be a living being. Okay, A couple of things

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Speaker 2: about about this. First of all, and this is a

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Speaker 2: classic example of where it's good to know.

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Speaker 3: The Hebrew.

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Speaker 2: Adam is Adam, right, human being. What is the word

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Speaker 2: for earth adamah. Adam is earth without a hay at

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Speaker 2: the end.

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Speaker 3: That's all. It is Adam and earth.

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Speaker 2: To show our origins, our name is really earthling. If

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Speaker 2: you really wanted a literal definition for Adam, it's earthling.

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Speaker 3: We are. We're from the earth. That's where God has

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Speaker 3: made us from.

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Speaker 2: And so God makes Adam dust from Adamah.

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Speaker 3: That's just what it says there. God himself makes man.

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Speaker 2: Remember with other things, God said, let there be Why

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Speaker 2: didn't God say let there be man?

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Speaker 3: In all the other things?

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Speaker 2: God announces what will happen, and it happens, but when

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Speaker 2: it comes to us, we are the culmination of God's efforts.

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Speaker 2: It's very, very profoundly anthropocentric.

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Speaker 3: The biblical narrative, it's human centered. You know what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's religious humanism. Humanists are human centered. Religious people are

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Speaker 2: God centered. The Torah, this certainly Genesis is really religious humanism.

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Speaker 2: It's man centered under God. It's like a twin twin pillars,

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Speaker 2: twin centers. It's not just God's sentener. It really is anthropocentric.

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Speaker 2: And you know who attacks it for being that, the

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Speaker 2: radical environmentalists who exactly attacked the Judeo Christian tradition correctly

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Speaker 2: for being anthropocentric. When I say on my radio show

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Speaker 2: that the world was created for human beings, I am clovered.

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Speaker 2: I am called the worst possible thing anthropocentric. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: created for sea oters, it wasn't created for trees or

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Speaker 2: spotted owls.

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Speaker 3: They were all created for us.

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Speaker 2: I went through this last time where we are told

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Speaker 2: to rule over and dominate the earth.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean abuse it.

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Speaker 2: But the reason not to abuse it is not because

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Speaker 2: trees have an intrinsic worth, but because they're there for us,

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Speaker 2: and if we abuse it, they won't be there for

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Speaker 2: our children. That's the environmentalist argument. That makes sense to

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Speaker 2: this person. If you don't protect the environment, your kids

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Speaker 2: won't be able to enjoy the spot at owl. That

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Speaker 2: makes sense to me. But that I am part of

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Speaker 2: an ecosystem and I don't want to want to imbalance

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Speaker 2: an ecosystem of which I am merely one part and

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Speaker 2: the sperm whale is another doesn't move me at all.

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Speaker 2: I am not part of the ecosystem, only the natural

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Speaker 2: part of me is. We are special, the human being especial.

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Speaker 2: God himself made us. God did not breathe into the

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Speaker 2: nostrils of fish, that's very important, or the nostrils of mammals,

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Speaker 2: or the nostrils of birds, God himself. It's touching, isn't it. God,

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Speaker 2: It's almost a humble God. I am gonna go down

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna do it. You will have my breath

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Speaker 2: in you human beings, my godly breath. That's what we

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Speaker 2: are given in this verse, God's breath. It's staggering, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I get the chills when I say it. That's what

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Speaker 2: we are given, and only we are given, and we

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Speaker 2: are we are the only one in God's image.

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Speaker 3: It's constantly repeated. We're it.

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Speaker 2: We're the whole point of it all. We are, we

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Speaker 2: are why God did this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this.

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Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom.

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Speaker 2: So we are created specially, and we are given this

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Speaker 2: soul of life.

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Speaker 3: We are. We are a nephish kaya, a living being.

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Speaker 2: So are the animals. It's fascinating. It's remember I told

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Speaker 2: you that great duality. We're in God's image and animal's image.

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Speaker 2: We're part divine, part animal. It's the same thing in

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Speaker 2: this sentence. When the animals are created, they're also called

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Speaker 2: nephi kaya, a living being, like the last words in

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Speaker 2: verse seven. But none of them are given in ishmatkraem.

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Speaker 2: None of them are given this soul of life. That's

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Speaker 2: where we are distinctive. We are a living being like cats,

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Speaker 2: but they don't have the breath of God in them,

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Speaker 2: the soul of life that God gave to us. Okay,

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Speaker 2: verse eight, God planted again. It's God Elohim, do not

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Speaker 2: i Ylohim planted a garden in Eden. Now it's called

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Speaker 2: the garden of Eden. But just so you'll understand, Eden

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Speaker 2: is presumably a place, so it's a garden in Eden.

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Speaker 2: Don't ask me where Eden is because I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows. Yeah, all we know.

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Speaker 3: Is it's me ked Then it's in the east, which.

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Speaker 2: Really is great help to all of us. By the way,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't even necessarily only mean in the east, because

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Speaker 2: ked em and Hebrew also means in ancient times old,

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Speaker 2: so we have no idea could have been and God

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Speaker 2: planted a garden a long time ago. So anyway, and

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Speaker 2: God put there this Adam, whom he had just made,

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Speaker 2: whom he had made. Oh, by the way, very important

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Speaker 2: little point on verse seven, when it says God made Adam.

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Speaker 2: The Hebrew word used is vayets her.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna interest you.

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Speaker 2: Which is in God caused to be or God made.

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Speaker 2: But it's stronger than the usual word made, which is vaas.

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Speaker 2: It's vayitzzer God made.

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Speaker 3: Now. Please note as well verse nineteen.

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Speaker 2: If you know Hebrew in particular, you'll find this fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Verse nineteen also begins with vajietzh or vatz actually, and

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Speaker 2: it says, and God made from the earth all the

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Speaker 2: beasts of the of the forest or of the wild

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Speaker 2: beasts of the earth, okay, and all the and all

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Speaker 2: the flying beings.

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Speaker 3: Okay. He uses the same word. The toy uses the

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Speaker 3: same word for creating Adam and creating the beasts vaiet

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Speaker 3: s or vaietze. Okay, what's the difference if.

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Speaker 2: You know any Hebrew, even if you don't understand Hebrew

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Speaker 2: but just can read it. Notice the Vaietzer of verse

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Speaker 2: seven has two youths, and the Vaieitzer of verse nineteen

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Speaker 2: with the animals has one youd. If that's not deliberate,

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Speaker 2: I am a Brussels sprout. It is so obvious that

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Speaker 2: there was something meant to be said here.

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Speaker 3: Why with the same word, it's as if.

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Speaker 2: It was and God made man m aa d and

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Speaker 2: God made beasts m a D. Why the extra a?

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Speaker 2: Why the extra you'd clearly it's to distinguish the two.

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Speaker 2: God made the beasts and God made people. And it's

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Speaker 2: to distinguish the two. We are not the same active creation.

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Speaker 2: While the Rabbis, you can imagine, had a field day

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Speaker 2: with this thing.

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Speaker 3: Especially, And here's the beauty, because va yet vaetzer, the

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Speaker 3: root of it is yates ther. What is the yeatesir?

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Speaker 3: You have two of them?

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Speaker 2: Right, a yetser toau and the yatshah a predilection or

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Speaker 2: creative force which is better to good and a creative

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Speaker 2: force to bad. Clearly, the word the therefore has to

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Speaker 2: mean something having.

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Speaker 3: To do with the yats air. Animals have only one yeatsair.

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Speaker 3: We have to.

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Speaker 2: We have a yatsh toave and we have a yatshah.

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Speaker 2: We were created in the beginning with a creative verge

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Speaker 2: to good and a creative.

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Speaker 3: Verge to evil.

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Speaker 2: Animals just have a creative verge wherever it goes, it goes.

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Speaker 3: They don't know good from evil. We do.

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Speaker 2: So here is a great example of where the verb

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Speaker 2: or a word itself tells you a great deal. And

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Speaker 2: I don't believe for a moment that that is rabbinic

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Speaker 2: reading into it. And God knows there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: rabbinic reading into this which I don't give you at

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Speaker 2: all because I am not here.

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Speaker 3: I am here to teach as clearly.

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Speaker 2: As possible what the text states, not the religious hermeneutics

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Speaker 2: that came later, but here it is clear what is

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Speaker 2: happening because the word yates ther, which is used later

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Speaker 2: God when he's going to destroy the world because people

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Speaker 2: are doing bad, says Yeats said ah dam ramen Urov.

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Speaker 2: The Yates their of man is bad from his youth.

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Speaker 2: So it's clearly that that's what is used here. That's

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Speaker 2: why you have the two youths for the two Yates.

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Speaker 2: Theres in Vayt's ah fascinating, isn't it? And that is

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Speaker 2: the distinction, a major distinction, if not the most, between

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Speaker 2: animals and us. Animals cannot choose how to behave we can.

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Speaker 2: They only have one Yates there, so they have no choice.

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Speaker 2: We have two. You can choose to do evil, you

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Speaker 2: can choose to do good.

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Speaker 3: Even if you grow up in poverty.

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Speaker 2: So radical notion in today's world that people in poverty

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Speaker 2: have a moral will. But allow me that one radical

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Speaker 2: notion for today.

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Speaker 3: God makes this garden.

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Speaker 2: And in Eden, and he puts Adam, who he is,

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Speaker 2: made there verse nine. And then we get to stuff

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Speaker 2: that is so complex, which is why until this year,

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Speaker 2: as I said last time, I would never teach Genesis.

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Speaker 2: I still am not certain about the answer to some

657
00:42:32,020 --> 00:42:33,260
Speaker 2: of the riddles I will pose.

658
00:42:33,580 --> 00:42:36,460
Speaker 3: It is so complex. Verse nine.

659
00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:41,500
Speaker 2: Wites Massa de nayelohimenad Makolates nech mad le mare vitov

660
00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:46,660
Speaker 2: la Masal and God caused to grow from the earth

661
00:42:47,739 --> 00:42:54,419
Speaker 2: all beautiful trees to look at and good to eat.

662
00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:59,620
Speaker 2: And the tree of life is in the center of

663
00:42:59,660 --> 00:43:04,859
Speaker 2: the garden, and the tree of knowledge of.

664
00:43:04,859 --> 00:43:05,500
Speaker 3: Good and evil.

665
00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:10,580
Speaker 2: Now are we missing a verb which you say that

666
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,580
Speaker 2: something is missing.

667
00:43:12,259 --> 00:43:15,060
Speaker 3: In that sentence? Where the hell was the tree of

668
00:43:15,140 --> 00:43:16,540
Speaker 3: good and evil?

669
00:43:16,739 --> 00:43:18,700
Speaker 2: It doesn't even say, I mean, it's one of the

670
00:43:18,739 --> 00:43:22,859
Speaker 2: many riddles here that are so fascinating to be Is

671
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:25,660
Speaker 2: it also in the center of the garden with that tree?

672
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:26,419
Speaker 3: Where was it?

673
00:43:26,819 --> 00:43:28,820
Speaker 2: How come we never hear about the tree of life

674
00:43:28,859 --> 00:43:33,020
Speaker 2: again with regard to Adam and Eve until later with

675
00:43:33,339 --> 00:43:36,900
Speaker 2: the serpent. It's a very fascinating thing. It's not answer.

676
00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:39,539
Speaker 2: All we know is that God gave all of these

677
00:43:39,580 --> 00:43:43,939
Speaker 2: beautiful trees to look at and to eat from, and

678
00:43:44,219 --> 00:43:46,819
Speaker 2: the tree of knowledge, the tree of life is in

679
00:43:46,819 --> 00:43:48,539
Speaker 2: the middle, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

680
00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:51,419
Speaker 3: Never call a tree of knowledge, because that's not its name.

681
00:43:51,460 --> 00:43:52,899
Speaker 3: It's the tree of knowledge of good and bad or

682
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:53,740
Speaker 3: good and evil. Okay.

683
00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:58,020
Speaker 2: Now, by the way, there is something very important here.

684
00:44:00,620 --> 00:44:07,940
Speaker 2: One is that it is clear again that God's original

685
00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:12,700
Speaker 2: intent was vegetarianism. That's what was there for us to eat.

686
00:44:13,779 --> 00:44:14,219
Speaker 3: There are a.

687
00:44:14,259 --> 00:44:18,939
Speaker 2: Number of the indications of that, and I will show

688
00:44:18,980 --> 00:44:20,819
Speaker 2: you two sixteen is well.

689
00:44:20,819 --> 00:44:22,299
Speaker 3: Take a look leads at verse sixteen.

690
00:44:23,739 --> 00:44:30,219
Speaker 2: Verse sixteen, and God commanded the Adam, saying, from every

691
00:44:30,620 --> 00:44:31,459
Speaker 2: tree of.

692
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:34,939
Speaker 3: The of the garden usually eat.

693
00:44:36,180 --> 00:44:38,580
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just important that you know. It's it's it's

694
00:44:38,819 --> 00:44:43,700
Speaker 2: very very clear that the that Adam was created and

695
00:44:43,739 --> 00:44:48,660
Speaker 2: the animals were created vegetarian, and that in some end

696
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:52,899
Speaker 2: of days, when things are better again, we'll all be

697
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:58,860
Speaker 2: vegetarian again. By the way, Kashrut, the Jewish laws of Kosher,

698
00:44:58,980 --> 00:45:03,140
Speaker 2: our Judaism's compromise on the vegetarian ideal of the Bible.

699
00:45:03,940 --> 00:45:06,060
Speaker 3: It is just a very just a little.

700
00:45:06,739 --> 00:45:10,580
Speaker 2: Excursive here just to you will you will understand it

701
00:45:10,660 --> 00:45:13,979
Speaker 2: is not a health code. It is part of Judaism's

702
00:45:14,020 --> 00:45:16,020
Speaker 2: dealing with the fact that we are, to use a

703
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:20,499
Speaker 2: Christian term, fallen. Since the since the Garden of Eden,

704
00:45:22,060 --> 00:45:27,540
Speaker 2: where the ideal life was no eating of animals, Judaism

705
00:45:27,580 --> 00:45:31,140
Speaker 2: allowed the eating of animals, but under very rigorous conditions

706
00:45:31,739 --> 00:45:33,539
Speaker 2: which I won't go into now it's not our time.

707
00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:37,460
Speaker 2: But that's what kosher is about. Keeping kosher is a reminder,

708
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:40,660
Speaker 2: and it really is. It's a very effective reminder that

709
00:45:40,739 --> 00:45:44,540
Speaker 2: vegetarianism is an ideal and that meat eating is not

710
00:45:44,980 --> 00:45:48,980
Speaker 2: as simple as fruit eating or vegetable eating. After all,

711
00:45:49,259 --> 00:45:51,259
Speaker 2: for those who say that the purpose of kosher is

712
00:45:51,299 --> 00:45:54,339
Speaker 2: self discipline, I have a very simple question, then why

713
00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:58,379
Speaker 2: aren't we restricted in terms of fruit and vegetables. If

714
00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:01,140
Speaker 2: the purpose is self disciplined, then it should have had laws.

715
00:46:01,180 --> 00:46:03,140
Speaker 2: These fruits you can eat, These fruits you can't eat.

716
00:46:03,460 --> 00:46:05,899
Speaker 2: These vegetables you can eat. These vegetables you can eat.

717
00:46:06,779 --> 00:46:09,140
Speaker 2: It may induce self discipline, but the purpose was not

718
00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:11,979
Speaker 2: self disciplined. The purpose is to remind you that there

719
00:46:12,020 --> 00:46:14,860
Speaker 2: is a vegetarian ideal and that you have still killed

720
00:46:14,859 --> 00:46:17,939
Speaker 2: when you eat meat. It's not a hamburger, it's a cow.

721
00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:22,739
Speaker 3: That's the point of it. I am not a vegetarian.

722
00:46:23,259 --> 00:46:29,580
Speaker 2: I am because of kashwred functionally of fisher chicatarian. But

723
00:46:29,580 --> 00:46:35,259
Speaker 2: but the but the fact is that that kashwurd has

724
00:46:35,299 --> 00:46:38,819
Speaker 2: that effect on one who does it knowledgeably. The tragedy

725
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:41,339
Speaker 2: again and Jewish and other religious life, is that many

726
00:46:41,380 --> 00:46:44,259
Speaker 2: religious people do things by rote and the meaning.

727
00:46:44,020 --> 00:46:46,660
Speaker 3: Is totally lost. That's a that's a separate issue.

728
00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:48,060
Speaker 2: But I just want you to see the roots of

729
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:53,219
Speaker 2: all the stuff from the Genesis story. Okay, God therefore

730
00:46:53,339 --> 00:46:55,860
Speaker 2: tells what we can eat. Now there are two trees.

731
00:46:57,299 --> 00:47:01,540
Speaker 2: This is very tough stuff. What do the two trees represent?

732
00:47:03,739 --> 00:47:05,740
Speaker 2: Now we have a tree of life and a tree

733
00:47:05,739 --> 00:47:07,739
Speaker 2: of knowledge of good and evil, and we're not supposed

734
00:47:07,779 --> 00:47:09,780
Speaker 2: to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

735
00:47:10,219 --> 00:47:13,860
Speaker 2: You know how many questions immediately arise. First of all,

736
00:47:14,060 --> 00:47:16,299
Speaker 2: why can't we eat the tree of belige of good

737
00:47:16,299 --> 00:47:18,259
Speaker 2: and evil? What are we going to learn if we

738
00:47:18,339 --> 00:47:18,779
Speaker 2: do eat?

739
00:47:18,819 --> 00:47:27,620
Speaker 3: Now? The problem to begin with for a number of reasons.

740
00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:33,260
Speaker 2: First of all, if the implication is that we don't

741
00:47:33,299 --> 00:47:36,580
Speaker 2: know right from wrong until we eat from the tree,

742
00:47:36,940 --> 00:47:38,460
Speaker 2: how could they disobey God?

743
00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:43,259
Speaker 3: Right?

744
00:47:43,339 --> 00:47:46,580
Speaker 2: I mean the very act of disobedience to God by

745
00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:49,059
Speaker 2: eating from the tree, and the very act of God

746
00:47:49,140 --> 00:47:50,299
Speaker 2: telling them right and wrong?

747
00:47:50,380 --> 00:47:51,819
Speaker 3: You can't do this? Can do? That?

748
00:47:52,140 --> 00:47:55,020
Speaker 2: Implies that they already have freedom of choice. If we

749
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:58,300
Speaker 2: didn't have freedom of choice, then how could we choose

750
00:47:58,339 --> 00:48:02,780
Speaker 2: to disobey God? Which is which? By the way, another

751
00:48:02,819 --> 00:48:06,459
Speaker 2: point here is so fascinating is all Adam and Eve

752
00:48:06,739 --> 00:48:09,060
Speaker 2: we didn't meet Eve yet. But all Adam and Eve

753
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:12,820
Speaker 2: had to do to have an idyllic world just one

754
00:48:13,420 --> 00:48:18,739
Speaker 2: miserable law. That's it, Not six hundred and thirteen, not

755
00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:26,299
Speaker 2: ten commandments. One for stunken, miserable little law. Don't eat

756
00:48:26,620 --> 00:48:27,780
Speaker 2: from that tree.

757
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:31,100
Speaker 3: That's it. You have a great life, just only from

758
00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:34,899
Speaker 3: that tree. And they ain't from that tree. And it

759
00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:38,660
Speaker 3: is always bottle feet. It is amazing. One thing.

760
00:48:39,020 --> 00:48:40,859
Speaker 2: It is as if I say to you you can

761
00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:45,299
Speaker 2: drive the car of your dreams. That just I beg

762
00:48:45,339 --> 00:48:48,299
Speaker 2: of you. Don't listen to radio stationed il.

763
00:48:48,259 --> 00:48:51,620
Speaker 3: K kk q. Okay, that's all you have to do.

764
00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:54,259
Speaker 2: Otherwise you can drive the rest of your life to

765
00:48:54,420 --> 00:48:56,259
Speaker 2: find his automobile in your dreams. And what do you

766
00:48:56,299 --> 00:48:57,579
Speaker 2: do as soon as you went to the car?

767
00:48:57,779 --> 00:48:58,620
Speaker 3: K kkq?

768
00:49:01,259 --> 00:49:04,500
Speaker 2: All right, that is what happened. It is a remarkable story,

769
00:49:04,739 --> 00:49:07,220
Speaker 2: and it is. It's a remarkable story about what.

770
00:49:07,140 --> 00:49:10,259
Speaker 3: It means to be human. That's what I have to conclude.

771
00:49:10,299 --> 00:49:12,739
Speaker 3: This whole thing is about. I'll come back to that.

772
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:15,540
Speaker 3: Here's another problem.

773
00:49:15,660 --> 00:49:18,260
Speaker 2: There are those who say that the tree of knowledge

774
00:49:18,299 --> 00:49:19,979
Speaker 2: of good and evil, that good and evil are good

775
00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:21,379
Speaker 2: and bad, really.

776
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:23,060
Speaker 3: Mean sexual knowledge.

777
00:49:23,180 --> 00:49:25,379
Speaker 2: Well, how are they supposed to pro create if they

778
00:49:25,380 --> 00:49:26,300
Speaker 2: didn't know sex?

779
00:49:27,460 --> 00:49:29,660
Speaker 3: They were already told pro create.

780
00:49:31,580 --> 00:49:34,060
Speaker 2: Now whilere the Eve was not around yet, that is correct,

781
00:49:34,420 --> 00:49:36,499
Speaker 2: Well Eve was around because we have the story God

782
00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:39,700
Speaker 2: created both. We simply don't have yet where where we

783
00:49:39,779 --> 00:49:43,219
Speaker 2: meet Eve. But remember this is a recapitulation of Chapter one.

784
00:49:43,339 --> 00:49:46,860
Speaker 2: God created the human being male and femalely created them.

785
00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:49,899
Speaker 2: But in any event, whether Eve is around yet or not,

786
00:49:49,940 --> 00:49:50,779
Speaker 2: Eve does show up.

787
00:49:50,819 --> 00:49:53,140
Speaker 3: Otherwise the point can you know? Than the question of

788
00:49:53,140 --> 00:49:54,660
Speaker 3: sexual knowledge is not an issue?

789
00:49:55,180 --> 00:49:59,060
Speaker 2: But the animals were told to have sex, So what

790
00:49:59,180 --> 00:50:01,300
Speaker 2: do you think if it wasn't sex, what does Adam

791
00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:07,739
Speaker 2: think they're doing? What an interesting act? I wonder what

792
00:50:07,819 --> 00:50:12,779
Speaker 2: that is. Obviously they had to know, they had to

793
00:50:12,859 --> 00:50:19,180
Speaker 2: know what sex was, or did they? That's these are

794
00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:22,419
Speaker 2: And the reason I Ray said is because that's the

795
00:50:22,460 --> 00:50:24,900
Speaker 2: thing that they discovered after they ate, which we'll see

796
00:50:25,140 --> 00:50:29,379
Speaker 2: next time. That's the one thing mentioned after they ate

797
00:50:29,420 --> 00:50:32,060
Speaker 2: from the tree, they knew they were naked.

798
00:50:33,819 --> 00:50:34,540
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

799
00:50:34,620 --> 00:50:37,859
Speaker 2: So that they knew sex before but didn't know they

800
00:50:37,859 --> 00:50:42,899
Speaker 2: were naked, Well, that's quite a feat, isn't it.

801
00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:43,900
Speaker 3: Well?

802
00:50:44,020 --> 00:50:45,859
Speaker 2: I think there are some answers to it, but I

803
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:47,620
Speaker 2: want to give you some of the problems that are

804
00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:50,900
Speaker 2: raised as another one, Are we immortal?

805
00:50:51,660 --> 00:50:54,739
Speaker 3: Were we created? Was the human being created to die?

806
00:50:55,339 --> 00:50:59,739
Speaker 3: Or not to die? Because later we're going to see that.

807
00:50:59,819 --> 00:51:02,100
Speaker 2: Well, in a moment, we'll see what the penalty is

808
00:51:02,140 --> 00:51:03,700
Speaker 2: for eating from the tree of.

809
00:51:03,660 --> 00:51:07,100
Speaker 3: Knowledge of good and evil. Well, we'll find out. I

810
00:51:07,219 --> 00:51:09,060
Speaker 3: think at least some of them.

811
00:51:11,739 --> 00:51:15,500
Speaker 2: I have. I have a belief as to what Tovara

812
00:51:15,779 --> 00:51:18,340
Speaker 2: is good and evil in this in this instance.

813
00:51:18,940 --> 00:51:23,180
Speaker 3: And uh, I'll tell it all.

814
00:51:23,180 --> 00:51:24,700
Speaker 2: I might as well tell it to you now, even

815
00:51:24,739 --> 00:51:27,180
Speaker 2: though it foreshadows the story. I think you all know

816
00:51:27,259 --> 00:51:31,100
Speaker 2: what happens later, So I'm not killing it for you als,

817
00:51:31,339 --> 00:51:34,819
Speaker 2: not like it's the first time Westerners have heard the

818
00:51:34,819 --> 00:51:42,580
Speaker 2: Garden of edential. My suspicion is that what we have

819
00:51:42,779 --> 00:51:47,660
Speaker 2: here is innocence. That Adam and Eve or Adam right

820
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:56,339
Speaker 2: now is innocent. Animals are innocent. Animals pro create, but

821
00:51:56,460 --> 00:52:02,219
Speaker 2: animals don't know sex. What Adam and Eve knew was

822
00:52:02,299 --> 00:52:09,060
Speaker 2: pro creative sexual intercourse, perhaps not, perhaps presumably, but they

823
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:10,900
Speaker 2: didn't know sex.

824
00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:15,780
Speaker 3: In all of the ramifications of that word, in the ugly,

825
00:52:16,779 --> 00:52:17,340
Speaker 3: in the.

826
00:52:18,980 --> 00:52:24,140
Speaker 2: Beautiful, in the romantic, in the erotic, and as I

827
00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:28,299
Speaker 2: said in the Dirty that's all part of what it is.

828
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:34,500
Speaker 3: My reading of the Garden of Eden's story is that

829
00:52:34,580 --> 00:52:37,660
Speaker 3: it is our story. It is not Adam and Eve.

830
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:38,299
Speaker 3: It's you and me.

831
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:42,339
Speaker 2: And as I tell you, I always try to be

832
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:44,939
Speaker 2: very faithful to the text and not read into it

833
00:52:45,020 --> 00:52:46,140
Speaker 2: what I.

834
00:52:46,219 --> 00:52:46,859
Speaker 3: Want to learn.

835
00:52:47,620 --> 00:52:49,859
Speaker 2: I do believe that it is a statement about the

836
00:52:49,940 --> 00:52:54,299
Speaker 2: human condition. If it is merely about two humans named

837
00:52:54,339 --> 00:52:58,660
Speaker 2: Adam and Eve, it's too important to be just about

838
00:52:58,660 --> 00:52:59,460
Speaker 2: Adam and Eve.

839
00:53:00,259 --> 00:53:02,140
Speaker 3: And if it weren't Adam and Eve, in other.

840
00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:04,419
Speaker 2: Words, if it were Jerry and Barbara, they would have

841
00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:08,260
Speaker 2: acted differently. Of course, not Adam and Eve. Is every

842
00:53:08,299 --> 00:53:10,899
Speaker 2: male and every female. It has to be that way.

843
00:53:11,180 --> 00:53:13,580
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they didn't exist. I don't care if

844
00:53:13,620 --> 00:53:16,900
Speaker 2: they did exactly or not. It doesn't make any difference.

845
00:53:16,940 --> 00:53:20,339
Speaker 2: Remember to Ramin's teacher, not history. The question is a

846
00:53:20,380 --> 00:53:22,499
Speaker 2: lot of I learn from it, not who they were.

847
00:53:23,380 --> 00:53:26,700
Speaker 2: Why do I learn from it? I learn the following

848
00:53:27,339 --> 00:53:28,219
Speaker 2: more than any.

849
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:28,979
Speaker 3: Other single thing.

850
00:53:29,020 --> 00:53:33,180
Speaker 2: I learned this from the story, that in the choice

851
00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:39,700
Speaker 2: in life between innocence and safety on the one hand,

852
00:53:41,060 --> 00:53:45,419
Speaker 2: and knowing it all and having a tough life We

853
00:53:45,540 --> 00:53:49,939
Speaker 2: prefer painful and knowing. You may deny it, but you

854
00:53:49,980 --> 00:53:54,219
Speaker 2: don't live that way. We don't want to remain children

855
00:53:54,700 --> 00:53:59,660
Speaker 2: Peter Pan. Notwithstanding, we do want to grow up. We

856
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:01,819
Speaker 2: may not like what we see when we grow up,

857
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:06,819
Speaker 2: but we want to grow up. You can't help growing up.

858
00:54:06,859 --> 00:54:09,419
Speaker 2: You can fight it all you like, but at some

859
00:54:09,620 --> 00:54:14,460
Speaker 2: point you will know the difference between procreation and sex

860
00:54:15,380 --> 00:54:18,219
Speaker 2: and God, they sure as hell aren't the same thing.

861
00:54:18,819 --> 00:54:25,180
Speaker 2: Animals procreate, but it is merely an act, a physical

862
00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:28,900
Speaker 2: a physical act like urinating, like eating.

863
00:54:29,259 --> 00:54:31,180
Speaker 3: It is another physical act.

864
00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:36,739
Speaker 4: It is not imbued with eros, it is not imbued

865
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:40,859
Speaker 4: with with any other meaning. For us, it is and

866
00:54:40,859 --> 00:54:43,299
Speaker 4: that is part that is the biggest, single part of

867
00:54:43,339 --> 00:54:46,859
Speaker 4: growing up, watching my child grow up.

868
00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:50,819
Speaker 3: I kept saying to my wife, he's still in the

869
00:54:50,819 --> 00:54:52,780
Speaker 3: garden of Eden. Remember he's still.

870
00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:55,859
Speaker 2: In the garden of Eden. That's the way I would

871
00:54:55,859 --> 00:54:58,939
Speaker 2: describe it. And I treasured it. There's one of the

872
00:54:59,339 --> 00:55:02,940
Speaker 2: what is our joy in little children that they're so innocent,

873
00:55:05,060 --> 00:55:08,620
Speaker 2: and the innocence overwhelmingly is a sexual innocence.

874
00:55:08,660 --> 00:55:09,819
Speaker 3: When you think about.

875
00:55:09,580 --> 00:55:13,819
Speaker 2: It, it still amazes me that my son will run

876
00:55:13,859 --> 00:55:18,660
Speaker 2: to the baseball magazine section at a new stand, because.

877
00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:19,899
Speaker 3: He's not going to run to that section.

878
00:55:20,060 --> 00:55:24,180
Speaker 2: In a couple years, there will be another section that

879
00:55:24,219 --> 00:55:25,700
Speaker 2: he will gravitate to first.

880
00:55:26,380 --> 00:55:28,180
Speaker 3: And so long as he is still.

881
00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:35,180
Speaker 2: Running over with lust to Tops Baseball Weekly, with real lust,

882
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:38,060
Speaker 2: I know that he has not fully left the Garden

883
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:40,379
Speaker 2: of Eden, though I get some reports that he has

884
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:47,020
Speaker 2: been moving in another direction, so that what can I do?

885
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,819
Speaker 2: He has a foot in the Garden of Eden, in

886
00:55:48,859 --> 00:55:51,899
Speaker 2: a foot out at the age of nine. But it

887
00:55:51,980 --> 00:55:55,899
Speaker 2: is a remarkable thing to see now. I don't want

888
00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:59,660
Speaker 2: him forever to gravitate only to the Baseball magazine section.

889
00:55:59,739 --> 00:56:02,580
Speaker 3: I'll be worried. On the other hand, I don't want

890
00:56:02,620 --> 00:56:03,060
Speaker 3: him to be a.

891
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:06,980
Speaker 2: Leccher, and obviously that is the difficulty in life, is

892
00:56:07,020 --> 00:56:10,419
Speaker 2: to learn how to control those elements of us. But

893
00:56:10,460 --> 00:56:16,060
Speaker 2: the innocence is what is described here. But innocence is

894
00:56:18,779 --> 00:56:24,339
Speaker 2: innocence has another characteristic. Kids think they'll live forever. I

895
00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:28,300
Speaker 2: think in that sense Adam was immortal, in the sense

896
00:56:28,380 --> 00:56:31,899
Speaker 2: that being innocent you don't think of dying, not that

897
00:56:32,020 --> 00:56:36,859
Speaker 2: you wouldn't literally die. After all, we don't have an

898
00:56:36,859 --> 00:56:40,540
Speaker 2: implication animals didn't die. He must have seen animals dying?

899
00:56:41,420 --> 00:56:43,739
Speaker 2: And what does it mean that we were created immortal?

900
00:56:43,819 --> 00:56:47,060
Speaker 2: What a f a very very large dinosaur fell on

901
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:51,060
Speaker 2: his head? Would he have gotten up like Superman? I

902
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:56,620
Speaker 2: mean it's almost I have to say, reading this over

903
00:56:56,700 --> 00:57:00,299
Speaker 2: and over and over, I don't believe that we were

904
00:57:00,339 --> 00:57:01,620
Speaker 2: created to live forever.

905
00:57:02,739 --> 00:57:04,700
Speaker 3: I know that you can read it out of this.

906
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:06,500
Speaker 3: I do not dispute that.

907
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:12,020
Speaker 2: I think both are readings are legitimate, but I don't believe.

908
00:57:12,060 --> 00:57:13,779
Speaker 3: So I'll tell you why.

909
00:57:16,140 --> 00:57:20,500
Speaker 2: First of all, life is undesirable if you live forever,

910
00:57:21,740 --> 00:57:25,500
Speaker 2: only death makes life meaningful. If you knew you lived forever,

911
00:57:25,540 --> 00:57:28,340
Speaker 2: why would you ever do anything? Can always do it tomorrow.

912
00:57:28,460 --> 00:57:31,340
Speaker 2: In fact, you can do it in the next millennium.

913
00:57:31,820 --> 00:57:32,620
Speaker 3: Shine your shoes.

914
00:57:32,660 --> 00:57:34,180
Speaker 2: What for I could do it in the year three

915
00:57:34,260 --> 00:57:35,860
Speaker 2: thousand and eight?

916
00:57:37,260 --> 00:57:37,780
Speaker 3: Is that right?

917
00:57:39,020 --> 00:57:42,900
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it? Is It is a frightening thought.

918
00:57:43,060 --> 00:57:46,019
Speaker 2: Why God would not create a world like that for us?

919
00:57:46,580 --> 00:57:51,020
Speaker 2: We just go on forever to do what. The whole

920
00:57:51,060 --> 00:57:53,060
Speaker 2: point is that it will end, and therefore we have

921
00:57:53,140 --> 00:57:55,939
Speaker 2: a constricted amount of time. Has anybody told they have

922
00:57:55,940 --> 00:57:59,100
Speaker 2: a terminal illness? They change their lives, They stop watching TV.

923
00:58:00,020 --> 00:58:02,260
Speaker 2: It's the first thing they do because they realize how

924
00:58:02,340 --> 00:58:06,020
Speaker 2: much time it took up that was meaningless. That is

925
00:58:06,060 --> 00:58:08,380
Speaker 2: why there's a great telmutic statement all.

926
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:11,740
Speaker 3: Timean that's makad. Don't believe in yourself till the day

927
00:58:11,740 --> 00:58:12,180
Speaker 3: you die.

928
00:58:13,340 --> 00:58:15,220
Speaker 2: You don't know the day you'll dies, and never believe

929
00:58:15,220 --> 00:58:19,460
Speaker 2: in yourself. In other words, take it all in immediately.

930
00:58:19,660 --> 00:58:22,580
Speaker 2: Don't get over confident that there is always time to

931
00:58:22,660 --> 00:58:23,180
Speaker 2: do things.

932
00:58:23,260 --> 00:58:23,900
Speaker 3: There isn't.

933
00:58:25,060 --> 00:58:27,340
Speaker 2: There is a lot to do, and the time is short.

934
00:58:28,660 --> 00:58:31,700
Speaker 2: We're all terminal in that sense. I don't mean that

935
00:58:31,780 --> 00:58:36,140
Speaker 2: in any way is grizzly or unhappy. I say, thank God,

936
00:58:36,980 --> 00:58:40,260
Speaker 2: you want to be here forever. Nobody wants to be

937
00:58:40,300 --> 00:58:43,180
Speaker 2: here forever. And to make sure it was true, I

938
00:58:43,220 --> 00:58:46,540
Speaker 2: asked David on the way here, my nine year old son, David,

939
00:58:46,580 --> 00:58:47,820
Speaker 2: would you like to live forever?

940
00:58:48,420 --> 00:58:49,459
Speaker 3: Said no? Said why?

941
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:52,939
Speaker 2: Said it would be boring. He's right, that's exactly why

942
00:58:52,980 --> 00:58:57,780
Speaker 2: it would be boring. Life is made interesting, inherently interesting,

943
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:02,180
Speaker 2: but truly the innocent.

944
00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:03,380
Speaker 3: Don't know from death.

945
00:59:05,060 --> 00:59:08,780
Speaker 2: And that was what he was Another point here, there

946
00:59:08,820 --> 00:59:12,220
Speaker 2: are two trees, one you can eat from, one you

947
00:59:12,260 --> 00:59:15,780
Speaker 2: can eat from. Isn't it obvious therefore that they are

948
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:21,940
Speaker 2: mutually exclusive trees, the tree of eternal life. That's probably

949
00:59:21,940 --> 00:59:24,820
Speaker 2: what it meant. Keep eating from that tree and you

950
00:59:24,860 --> 00:59:28,900
Speaker 2: will stay alive. Now you understand what I believe has happened.

951
00:59:29,460 --> 00:59:33,460
Speaker 2: We weren't created immortal. We were created with the choice

952
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:40,180
Speaker 2: of immortality without knowing good and evil or mortality and

953
00:59:40,260 --> 00:59:43,780
Speaker 2: knowing it all, which is what good and evil really means.

954
00:59:43,780 --> 00:59:46,100
Speaker 2: Biblically used good and evil when it's used to verrah

955
00:59:46,220 --> 00:59:51,100
Speaker 2: means everything means the whole thing. So you have your choice,

956
00:59:51,140 --> 00:59:53,540
Speaker 2: and here it is, this is I think this, I

957
00:59:53,580 --> 00:59:58,140
Speaker 2: think I finally figured it out. The mystery is this

958
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:01,300
Speaker 2: or the solution to the mystery is this? You have

959
01:00:01,380 --> 01:00:04,980
Speaker 2: a choice. You want to eat from the tree of immortality.

960
01:00:05,020 --> 01:00:08,220
Speaker 2: Remember you could be It's not that we were created immortal.

961
01:00:08,540 --> 01:00:12,180
Speaker 2: We were created with the possibility of immortality by constantly

962
01:00:12,220 --> 01:00:13,580
Speaker 2: eating from the tree of life.

963
01:00:14,180 --> 01:00:17,580
Speaker 3: We had another choice. Remember, it's one or the other.

964
01:00:17,740 --> 01:00:19,860
Speaker 3: God says it clearly, it's one or the other.

965
01:00:19,980 --> 01:00:22,740
Speaker 2: Eat from the true of immortality or eat from the

966
01:00:22,740 --> 01:00:28,180
Speaker 2: tree of knowledge of everything. And the moment they had

967
01:00:28,220 --> 01:00:32,019
Speaker 2: a choice, they ate from the tree of knowledge.

968
01:00:32,140 --> 01:00:35,340
Speaker 3: I'll take it, I will take.

969
01:00:35,180 --> 01:00:39,020
Speaker 2: It over immortality and that's what you would have said.

970
01:00:39,780 --> 01:00:45,060
Speaker 2: That's the point. They're human, you're human. That's what we want.

971
01:00:46,060 --> 01:00:50,300
Speaker 2: That's what I've always learned from this story that we

972
01:00:50,620 --> 01:00:55,860
Speaker 2: rather be fully alive than live forever. Those are your choices,

973
01:00:56,380 --> 01:00:59,860
Speaker 2: really alive, know it all, and we want to know

974
01:00:59,940 --> 01:01:01,620
Speaker 2: it all. That's what humans are about.

975
01:01:01,700 --> 01:01:03,140
Speaker 3: We want to know it all.

976
01:01:03,460 --> 01:01:06,060
Speaker 2: That is why when a man and a woman sleep together.

977
01:01:06,140 --> 01:01:08,620
Speaker 2: In the Bible, it says, and Adam.

978
01:01:08,340 --> 01:01:15,660
Speaker 3: Knew Eve and Abraham knew Sarah.

979
01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:18,900
Speaker 2: That's what knowledge is about, and that's the knowledge we want.

980
01:01:18,980 --> 01:01:21,900
Speaker 2: He couldn't have had knowledge. He could have created, but

981
01:01:21,980 --> 01:01:24,780
Speaker 2: he wouldn't have known woman, and woman wouldn't have known man.

982
01:01:26,140 --> 01:01:29,900
Speaker 2: And we prefer to know than to live a long

983
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:33,539
Speaker 2: life like an intelligent animal, which is all we would be.

984
01:01:35,820 --> 01:01:40,580
Speaker 2: That's why the story is so great. Anybody in there

985
01:01:40,580 --> 01:01:43,260
Speaker 2: would have done the same thing. That's what human's up for,

986
01:01:45,700 --> 01:01:49,499
Speaker 2: and that's the story of all our lives. You want

987
01:01:49,540 --> 01:01:53,780
Speaker 2: the safe course or do you want to live life?

988
01:01:53,820 --> 01:01:57,499
Speaker 2: The Bible comes down with the following. If you want

989
01:01:57,540 --> 01:02:02,580
Speaker 2: to know life, you will have pain. But you know,

990
01:02:02,660 --> 01:02:06,780
Speaker 2: it's funny. We always speak about what happened to Adam

991
01:02:06,820 --> 01:02:09,100
Speaker 2: and Eve's punishment for reading, as you'll see in the

992
01:02:09,180 --> 01:02:13,020
Speaker 2: later chapter, but never says they were punished. It just

993
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:15,419
Speaker 2: says God said, because you wait from the tree, this

994
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:18,060
Speaker 2: is what's going to happen. Never says I'm punishing you.

995
01:02:18,740 --> 01:02:22,900
Speaker 2: It's a very common misconception. And this is the consequence

996
01:02:22,940 --> 01:02:26,740
Speaker 2: of knowledge. The consequence of knowledge is pain. You want

997
01:02:26,740 --> 01:02:28,820
Speaker 2: to be naive, you'll have less pain, and a lot

998
01:02:28,820 --> 01:02:29,860
Speaker 2: of people prefer that.

999
01:02:30,460 --> 01:02:32,340
Speaker 3: Don't. I don't want to hear, I don't want to know.

1000
01:02:33,860 --> 01:02:36,939
Speaker 2: I am convinced that seven hours a day of television

1001
01:02:36,940 --> 01:02:38,580
Speaker 2: in the average American home is.

1002
01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:40,260
Speaker 3: A way of not dealing with pain.

1003
01:02:40,940 --> 01:02:45,580
Speaker 2: It anesthetizes you, noises on, it blocks out other stuff,

1004
01:02:46,060 --> 01:02:48,620
Speaker 2: but you don't live a life. Then they're leading lives

1005
01:02:48,620 --> 01:02:51,620
Speaker 2: in television land, but you're not in your living room.

1006
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:57,939
Speaker 2: That's the choice we have in life. Live intensely and

1007
01:02:58,060 --> 01:03:00,220
Speaker 2: have a lot of pain. That's the way God created

1008
01:03:00,220 --> 01:03:03,220
Speaker 2: the world. Those are your choices, or eat from the

1009
01:03:03,260 --> 01:03:03,820
Speaker 2: tree of life.

1010
01:03:03,860 --> 01:03:05,380
Speaker 3: You just tree of.

1011
01:03:05,340 --> 01:03:09,499
Speaker 2: Life is being very healthy, healthy, healthy, and drop dead

1012
01:03:10,580 --> 01:03:12,820
Speaker 2: and you spend And I am convinced that that is

1013
01:03:12,860 --> 01:03:15,860
Speaker 2: a part of it. People are deeply afraid of intense

1014
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:24,500
Speaker 2: living because intense living from bungee jumping to taking a

1015
01:03:24,620 --> 01:03:29,020
Speaker 2: tour on your own rather than with the group is difficult.

1016
01:03:30,580 --> 01:03:32,020
Speaker 3: Getting married is difficult.

1017
01:03:32,060 --> 01:03:34,019
Speaker 2: So you have all these men walking around who don't

1018
01:03:34,060 --> 01:03:37,780
Speaker 2: want the pain of marriage. They want the tree of life,

1019
01:03:37,820 --> 01:03:42,539
Speaker 2: of eternal eternal youth, and they have it, and they're

1020
01:03:42,580 --> 01:03:46,820
Speaker 2: empty and they're still children, but they don't want the pain.

1021
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:49,940
Speaker 2: And for a man more than for a woman, is

1022
01:03:50,340 --> 01:03:53,700
Speaker 2: a realization of the pain that marriage will bring, because

1023
01:03:53,740 --> 01:03:56,540
Speaker 2: it is a denial of certain very inherent stuff. This

1024
01:03:56,620 --> 01:04:00,020
Speaker 2: is not to say that later the pain isn't charit equally,

1025
01:04:01,220 --> 01:04:02,220
Speaker 2: all right, It's.

1026
01:04:01,980 --> 01:04:02,700
Speaker 3: Not to say that.

1027
01:04:03,380 --> 01:04:05,700
Speaker 2: It's just to say that at the outset, men are

1028
01:04:05,780 --> 01:04:08,980
Speaker 2: more aware of the price, so they don't want the

1029
01:04:09,060 --> 01:04:11,300
Speaker 2: pain and they don't need from the tree of knowledge.

1030
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:14,979
Speaker 2: I think it's a very big I think the same

1031
01:04:14,980 --> 01:04:18,260
Speaker 2: thing with opting not to have children. It's a safer

1032
01:04:18,300 --> 01:04:22,540
Speaker 2: way to live life. It's less There's no question the

1033
01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:25,340
Speaker 2: ratio of pain to pleasure with children.

1034
01:04:28,580 --> 01:04:33,540
Speaker 3: Is an interesting one, which twee you can reflect on

1035
01:04:34,700 --> 01:04:35,940
Speaker 3: at your leisure.

1036
01:04:37,980 --> 01:04:40,860
Speaker 2: But to opt if you don't have children, you don't

1037
01:04:40,860 --> 01:04:43,180
Speaker 2: have children. It's not the end of the world. But

1038
01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:45,740
Speaker 2: to choose not to have children unless.

1039
01:04:45,460 --> 01:04:47,220
Speaker 3: They are just extreme circumstances.

1040
01:04:47,340 --> 01:04:50,140
Speaker 2: And I would never try to convince anybody to have children.

1041
01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:54,740
Speaker 2: I'm speaking now, not to an individual. I'm speaking generically.

1042
01:04:55,580 --> 01:05:00,500
Speaker 2: It's a choice for no pain. What Genesis is saying

1043
01:05:00,580 --> 01:05:04,260
Speaker 2: here is to live, to know it all is to

1044
01:05:04,260 --> 01:05:08,180
Speaker 2: have a lot of pain. But this is the human choice.

1045
01:05:08,620 --> 01:05:14,340
Speaker 2: God doesn't get angry at Adam. It's fascinating. He just says, Okay,

1046
01:05:14,700 --> 01:05:18,540
Speaker 2: you made your choice. This is what happens, as you

1047
01:05:18,540 --> 01:05:21,460
Speaker 2: will see later. And that is what the choice that

1048
01:05:21,540 --> 01:05:25,579
Speaker 2: we make. It's ennobling of human beings. I have never

1049
01:05:25,660 --> 01:05:28,740
Speaker 2: looked at Adam the great sinner. It's not my tradition.

1050
01:05:28,900 --> 01:05:31,380
Speaker 3: A and B. I don't see it that way.

1051
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:34,980
Speaker 2: I'd have done it the second. God would have said,

1052
01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:36,500
Speaker 2: don't you touch that tree?

1053
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:38,939
Speaker 3: Where is it? Exactly? Where is it?

1054
01:05:40,140 --> 01:05:45,180
Speaker 2: By the way, And you know what's fascinating here, All

1055
01:05:45,340 --> 01:05:48,220
Speaker 2: the trees were nice and good to touch.

1056
01:05:48,460 --> 01:05:49,380
Speaker 3: Okay, it goes out.

1057
01:05:49,260 --> 01:05:55,860
Speaker 2: Of its way to show the the rebelliousness of Adam's decision.

1058
01:05:55,980 --> 01:05:58,419
Speaker 3: It wasn't like God made it a really tough thing.

1059
01:05:58,940 --> 01:06:02,539
Speaker 3: All the other trees were ugly, miserable.

1060
01:06:01,980 --> 01:06:07,060
Speaker 2: Tasting, and one delicious looking tree with ripe cantilopeses in

1061
01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:10,499
Speaker 2: the middle. It isn't that way at all looking it's

1062
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:13,459
Speaker 2: what's so beautiful Verse time, and God makes all these

1063
01:06:13,580 --> 01:06:17,420
Speaker 2: beautiful trees to look at and delicious the weed from

1064
01:06:18,220 --> 01:06:21,700
Speaker 2: that's all but one tree. If you eat from that tree,

1065
01:06:21,740 --> 01:06:25,140
Speaker 2: you're going to know everything, but you can live forever

1066
01:06:25,380 --> 01:06:27,940
Speaker 2: if you keep eating from the other tree. That's the point.

1067
01:06:27,980 --> 01:06:30,900
Speaker 2: That is how I have resolved the delay. We were

1068
01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:34,700
Speaker 2: not made immortal. We could have chosen immortality by eating

1069
01:06:34,740 --> 01:06:35,580
Speaker 2: from that tree.

1070
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:40,260
Speaker 3: And you know what happened. Let's go on verse ten.

1071
01:06:42,420 --> 01:06:44,060
Speaker 3: There was this one.

1072
01:06:44,300 --> 01:06:49,260
Speaker 2: If I'd have edited the Torah, which I didn't, I

1073
01:06:49,300 --> 01:06:52,940
Speaker 2: would not have included the next couple of verses about

1074
01:06:52,980 --> 01:06:57,100
Speaker 2: which rivers came out of Eden. It has only struck

1075
01:06:57,180 --> 01:07:01,700
Speaker 2: me as a remarkably unimportant little item. But it obviously

1076
01:07:01,780 --> 01:07:05,780
Speaker 2: isn't It obviously had great importance for the Jews at

1077
01:07:05,780 --> 01:07:06,220
Speaker 2: the time.

1078
01:07:06,620 --> 01:07:09,580
Speaker 3: They all must have meant something. It was very physical.

1079
01:07:09,700 --> 01:07:12,140
Speaker 2: Listen, now, I want to tell you where Eden, where

1080
01:07:12,180 --> 01:07:15,020
Speaker 2: the Goarden of Eden was. Okay, so it gives you

1081
01:07:15,140 --> 01:07:18,140
Speaker 2: various names, some of which are not findable today, but

1082
01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:19,420
Speaker 2: which clearly meant something.

1083
01:07:19,460 --> 01:07:22,060
Speaker 3: Then I won't get you all of them. It's not important.

1084
01:07:22,060 --> 01:07:25,380
Speaker 2: But what is fascinating is the literary device here, all

1085
01:07:25,460 --> 01:07:26,020
Speaker 2: the tension.

1086
01:07:26,860 --> 01:07:30,300
Speaker 3: Remember it didn't even end with the verb. Remember the sentence.

1087
01:07:30,860 --> 01:07:34,260
Speaker 2: It's and the tree of life is in the middle

1088
01:07:34,260 --> 01:07:36,340
Speaker 2: of the garden, and a tree of knowledge of good

1089
01:07:36,380 --> 01:07:36,740
Speaker 2: and bad.

1090
01:07:37,860 --> 01:07:39,140
Speaker 3: And the rivers.

1091
01:07:38,740 --> 01:07:41,860
Speaker 2: Which came out of the you know, like, who cares

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01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:46,939
Speaker 2: what happened? It's a it's very Beethoven. Like Beethoven, that's

1093
01:07:46,940 --> 01:07:50,060
Speaker 2: how romantic music was really developed. You get tension, tension, tension,

1094
01:07:50,220 --> 01:07:53,780
Speaker 2: and a low, nice, lovely melody had attention, tension, tension, tension,

1095
01:07:53,980 --> 01:07:55,020
Speaker 2: and that's what's happened to you.

1096
01:07:55,460 --> 01:07:57,340
Speaker 3: So what's with the trees? Let me first tell you

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01:07:57,380 --> 01:07:58,380
Speaker 3: about the four rivers.

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01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:03,580
Speaker 2: Well, that's really really concerning you at this time, So

1099
01:08:03,660 --> 01:08:07,500
Speaker 2: we will skip the four rivers and go to verse fifteen.

1100
01:08:09,700 --> 01:08:13,820
Speaker 2: God elo him, all right, and I yellow him.

1101
01:08:12,620 --> 01:08:16,460
Speaker 3: They took Adam and he puts him.

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01:08:16,460 --> 01:08:18,060
Speaker 2: This is a repeat of what you had earlier. It's

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01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:20,860
Speaker 2: just it's a recapitulation. And he put him in the

1104
01:08:21,220 --> 01:08:23,099
Speaker 2: by the way, it's such a beautiful word of Hebrew

1105
01:08:23,140 --> 01:08:27,580
Speaker 2: vayani Hahu. It really means and he very lightly put

1106
01:08:27,660 --> 01:08:32,060
Speaker 2: him down. It's this vision of very carefully, like your

1107
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:34,939
Speaker 2: most treasured little item. He put him down in the

1108
01:08:34,980 --> 01:08:38,179
Speaker 2: garden of Eden, to work at it. And here's where

1109
01:08:38,220 --> 01:08:41,140
Speaker 2: you have the real word for work, abo da avda.

1110
01:08:41,540 --> 01:08:49,700
Speaker 2: To work at it and to watch over it. Verse sixteen.

1111
01:08:53,460 --> 01:08:59,219
Speaker 2: And God commanded Adam, the atom, the man. It's generic,

1112
01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:02,860
Speaker 2: it's not even it's still the human. And God commanded

1113
01:09:02,860 --> 01:09:07,420
Speaker 2: the humans, saying, from every tree in the garden, you

1114
01:09:07,460 --> 01:09:10,259
Speaker 2: shall eat again the vegetarian statement.

1115
01:09:10,540 --> 01:09:13,139
Speaker 3: In other words, don't eat from the.

1116
01:09:14,900 --> 01:09:21,500
Speaker 2: From the animals, and really seventeen continues, but from the

1117
01:09:21,620 --> 01:09:24,540
Speaker 2: tree of knowledge of good and bad, don't eat from it,

1118
01:09:26,540 --> 01:09:31,500
Speaker 2: because on the day you eat from it, you will die.

1119
01:09:32,420 --> 01:09:38,259
Speaker 2: Another proof that day doesn't mean twenty four hour period,

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01:09:38,979 --> 01:09:39,740
Speaker 2: because if it.

1121
01:09:39,740 --> 01:09:44,979
Speaker 3: Did, God lied because the day Adam and Eve ate

1122
01:09:45,019 --> 01:09:50,299
Speaker 3: from it, they didn't die. So it can't mean the day.

1123
01:09:50,500 --> 01:09:56,059
Speaker 2: It means the period, the time, the time that you

1124
01:09:56,180 --> 01:09:59,660
Speaker 2: eat from it. Does it have day in your translations

1125
01:09:59,660 --> 01:10:02,059
Speaker 2: because on the day that you eat from it, it doesn't.

1126
01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:03,939
Speaker 3: What's wrong with your translations?

1127
01:10:04,900 --> 01:10:09,340
Speaker 2: What do you have when? See when is correct, but

1128
01:10:09,420 --> 01:10:11,979
Speaker 2: it's not literal. See that's the trouble. They should really

1129
01:10:12,019 --> 01:10:16,179
Speaker 2: have two translations of the Bible, literal and figurative. That

1130
01:10:16,220 --> 01:10:18,660
Speaker 2: would be a bigger help for everybody to learn Bible.

1131
01:10:19,059 --> 01:10:22,780
Speaker 2: It's another project el embark if I live forever, but

1132
01:10:22,860 --> 01:10:24,740
Speaker 2: I've already eaten from the Tree of Knowledge of good

1133
01:10:24,780 --> 01:10:27,420
Speaker 2: and evil so heavily that I have indigestion.

1134
01:10:30,180 --> 01:10:33,500
Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this.

1135
01:10:38,059 --> 01:10:42,500
Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom.

1136
01:10:42,900 --> 01:10:50,700
Speaker 2: Okay anyway, so yes, when you eat from it, you

1137
01:10:50,740 --> 01:11:03,299
Speaker 2: will die. God, God or Ado nayelo him said, then

1138
01:11:04,099 --> 01:11:05,580
Speaker 2: it's really right.

1139
01:11:05,620 --> 01:11:09,019
Speaker 3: Now it's a jump, it's totally unrelated, but.

1140
01:11:09,059 --> 01:11:12,179
Speaker 2: This is truly one of the great great verses of

1141
01:11:12,220 --> 01:11:16,220
Speaker 2: the of the Bible. And then God said, it's not

1142
01:11:16,420 --> 01:11:21,099
Speaker 2: good for the man to be alone. I'm going to

1143
01:11:21,140 --> 01:11:25,460
Speaker 2: make for him. And here it's very unfortunate. The translation.

1144
01:11:25,580 --> 01:11:28,139
Speaker 2: I want to give you literal translation and do what

1145
01:11:28,180 --> 01:11:33,220
Speaker 2: you want with it. Haeser is helper, that's correct. But

1146
01:11:33,380 --> 01:11:37,700
Speaker 2: whatever else. The words that are used Kennegad in Hebrew.

1147
01:11:37,380 --> 01:11:37,979
Speaker 3: Has a meaning.

1148
01:11:38,180 --> 01:11:42,499
Speaker 2: It means equal to it's constantly used in the Tumud.

1149
01:11:42,979 --> 01:11:46,059
Speaker 2: For example, it will say that learning tora is equal

1150
01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:47,460
Speaker 2: to all the other commandments.

1151
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:50,540
Speaker 3: It uses the word kennegid. That's what's used here.

1152
01:11:51,620 --> 01:11:56,099
Speaker 2: I will make for him a helper who is his equal.

1153
01:11:56,820 --> 01:12:00,660
Speaker 2: That is what it says. This is not post feminist hermeneutics.

1154
01:12:01,019 --> 01:12:04,179
Speaker 2: Believe me, I am totally prepared to read the Bible

1155
01:12:04,460 --> 01:12:07,219
Speaker 2: as it is, with any difficulty a modern human being

1156
01:12:07,300 --> 01:12:10,740
Speaker 2: would have. But it says it, so we might as

1157
01:12:10,740 --> 01:12:12,139
Speaker 2: well read it as it says it.

1158
01:12:12,460 --> 01:12:12,660
Speaker 3: Now.

1159
01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:17,299
Speaker 2: The fascinating part is feminists may not like. I won't say,

1160
01:12:17,340 --> 01:12:21,939
Speaker 2: will not like. Feminists come in different varieties. Feminists may

1161
01:12:21,939 --> 01:12:24,580
Speaker 2: not like the helper part. They like the equal part,

1162
01:12:24,780 --> 01:12:27,580
Speaker 2: but not the helper part. Whether you like it or not,

1163
01:12:28,300 --> 01:12:30,259
Speaker 2: that is the way it is written.

1164
01:12:31,220 --> 01:12:32,059
Speaker 3: I like it.

1165
01:12:33,500 --> 01:12:37,740
Speaker 2: I think helper who is his equal is the perfect

1166
01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:43,460
Speaker 2: statement of the ideal relationship of a helper, but not

1167
01:12:43,540 --> 01:12:47,979
Speaker 2: a helper as in my butler, my maid, my servant,

1168
01:12:48,340 --> 01:12:52,660
Speaker 2: my equal. Because if it is not as helper, then

1169
01:12:52,740 --> 01:12:55,820
Speaker 2: what is our relationship just as equals?

1170
01:12:56,059 --> 01:12:58,900
Speaker 3: Then what do we do for each other? It can't be.

1171
01:12:58,939 --> 01:13:00,740
Speaker 2: It could have said an I will make for him

1172
01:13:00,939 --> 01:13:06,660
Speaker 2: a being his equal. It could have been sl nefeschaya connecto,

1173
01:13:07,780 --> 01:13:09,019
Speaker 2: I will make from a living.

1174
01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:09,740
Speaker 3: Being his equal.

1175
01:13:09,860 --> 01:13:12,219
Speaker 2: Use the word equal but not helper, or it could

1176
01:13:12,260 --> 01:13:14,059
Speaker 2: have been I will make him an aser, a helper,

1177
01:13:14,460 --> 01:13:18,500
Speaker 2: but not half his equal. I think this choice of words,

1178
01:13:18,540 --> 01:13:20,580
Speaker 2: which seem in a way and they are, there's a ten.

1179
01:13:21,180 --> 01:13:24,700
Speaker 2: How can you be my helper and my equal? That's

1180
01:13:24,740 --> 01:13:28,099
Speaker 2: a very large tension in male female relations to begin with.

1181
01:13:28,500 --> 01:13:29,580
Speaker 3: How do you be both?

1182
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:33,579
Speaker 2: But I cannot imagine another way that male female relations

1183
01:13:33,620 --> 01:13:35,820
Speaker 2: can work out. Now you may want to argue, well, no,

1184
01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:37,700
Speaker 2: it should be the other way. He should be her

1185
01:13:37,780 --> 01:13:40,860
Speaker 2: helper and equal to her. Okay, that's not the way

1186
01:13:40,900 --> 01:13:43,179
Speaker 2: it was set up. You may say that that's the

1187
01:13:43,220 --> 01:13:45,099
Speaker 2: way you would like to make it. Thank God, it's

1188
01:13:45,099 --> 01:13:47,019
Speaker 2: a free country, and I mean.

1189
01:13:46,900 --> 01:13:48,099
Speaker 3: That with no tongue in cheek.

1190
01:13:48,180 --> 01:13:50,500
Speaker 2: Thank God it is, and you are free to experiment

1191
01:13:50,540 --> 01:13:55,780
Speaker 2: in that way. Generally speaking, my own humble experience of

1192
01:13:55,979 --> 01:14:00,299
Speaker 2: observation has been that equality is necessary and the sense

1193
01:14:00,340 --> 01:14:03,300
Speaker 2: of help is necessary to make things work in what

1194
01:14:03,620 --> 01:14:09,780
Speaker 2: is already a tension filled possibility of the opposite sexes

1195
01:14:10,420 --> 01:14:15,179
Speaker 2: strangers spending their lives together. It's a tough thing to

1196
01:14:15,260 --> 01:14:17,780
Speaker 2: work out, and nobody knows it better than Westerners who

1197
01:14:17,820 --> 01:14:21,099
Speaker 2: divorce all the time, and others who refuse to marry

1198
01:14:21,220 --> 01:14:25,979
Speaker 2: or afraid of marying it is a difficult thing, But

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01:14:26,140 --> 01:14:29,700
Speaker 2: that is the way in which her creation is described.

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01:14:30,140 --> 01:14:32,179
Speaker 2: You might have preferred it the other way, and I

1201
01:14:32,260 --> 01:14:36,100
Speaker 2: honor that, But at least understand what is written biblically

1202
01:14:36,620 --> 01:14:40,139
Speaker 2: as God's, as the understanding of the way God would

1203
01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:43,500
Speaker 2: do it. Some will argue again feminists, whether male or female, Well,

1204
01:14:43,580 --> 01:14:47,019
Speaker 2: who is written? They would argue by males from a

1205
01:14:47,059 --> 01:14:49,339
Speaker 2: male point of view, and obviously that's the way they'll

1206
01:14:49,340 --> 01:14:53,300
Speaker 2: describe it. Maybe so I have no answer to that.

1207
01:14:53,380 --> 01:14:55,339
Speaker 2: I can only tell you that this is the way

1208
01:14:55,420 --> 01:14:58,500
Speaker 2: it is written. Deal with it as you will. I

1209
01:14:58,540 --> 01:15:00,540
Speaker 2: think there is a great deal to say for that

1210
01:15:00,700 --> 01:15:06,179
Speaker 2: tension of equality and help. I think that a lot

1211
01:15:06,220 --> 01:15:10,420
Speaker 2: of couples today who have only the equality, and where

1212
01:15:10,420 --> 01:15:12,219
Speaker 2: there isn't the sense of helping the other.

1213
01:15:12,340 --> 01:15:12,860
Speaker 3: I have my.

1214
01:15:12,939 --> 01:15:20,020
Speaker 2: Career, you have your career, and neither is particularly there

1215
01:15:20,260 --> 01:15:24,019
Speaker 2: for the the other. Because we have equal macro roles

1216
01:15:24,099 --> 01:15:28,860
Speaker 2: in this world. Some people make that work. It seems

1217
01:15:29,019 --> 01:15:31,419
Speaker 2: not to be such a wonderful thing. Though in theory

1218
01:15:31,460 --> 01:15:34,740
Speaker 2: it may have worked out, in practice it seems not

1219
01:15:34,820 --> 01:15:39,419
Speaker 2: to have worked out his macro role, not him because

1220
01:15:39,460 --> 01:15:43,700
Speaker 2: he's male, but his macro role may need the helper

1221
01:15:44,059 --> 01:15:46,740
Speaker 2: that she can support him with, but she is totally

1222
01:15:46,820 --> 01:15:49,979
Speaker 2: his equal. That is the way I read this. Some

1223
01:15:50,019 --> 01:15:53,660
Speaker 2: people will gag on it. I appreciate that, but that

1224
01:15:53,820 --> 01:15:56,660
Speaker 2: is my reading that well, that is the I think

1225
01:15:56,700 --> 01:15:59,700
Speaker 2: the honest reading. You can say you reject it, but

1226
01:15:59,740 --> 01:16:04,620
Speaker 2: the honest reading is helper who is his equal, and

1227
01:16:04,700 --> 01:16:08,260
Speaker 2: therefore he is to see her that way too. It

1228
01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:14,339
Speaker 2: goes in both directions, in both in both ways. Okay, Now,

1229
01:16:19,580 --> 01:16:22,780
Speaker 2: the next sentence is it's very difficult. If there is

1230
01:16:22,939 --> 01:16:27,299
Speaker 2: any logical continuity, we've got a problem here.

1231
01:16:27,820 --> 01:16:30,540
Speaker 3: God says, I am going to create a helper who

1232
01:16:30,580 --> 01:16:32,860
Speaker 3: is his equal. What is the next sentence?

1233
01:16:33,140 --> 01:16:35,059
Speaker 2: Tell me you would not expect the next sentence? And

1234
01:16:35,220 --> 01:16:41,179
Speaker 2: God created woman. And what we have rather is God

1235
01:16:41,620 --> 01:16:46,660
Speaker 2: made from the earth all the beasts, at all the

1236
01:16:46,860 --> 01:16:49,340
Speaker 2: at all the foul, and he.

1237
01:16:49,340 --> 01:16:53,900
Speaker 5: Brought them to the man to see what he will

1238
01:16:54,140 --> 01:16:59,860
Speaker 5: what he will call it, and whatever he calls it.

1239
01:17:00,780 --> 01:17:06,179
Speaker 3: Whatever he calls that living being that's its name. Does

1240
01:17:06,220 --> 01:17:07,500
Speaker 3: that seem slightly like.

1241
01:17:07,780 --> 01:17:11,860
Speaker 2: Either a non secultur or what exactly did God have

1242
01:17:11,939 --> 01:17:15,939
Speaker 2: in mind? As a helper equal to him. Well, the

1243
01:17:16,059 --> 01:17:20,500
Speaker 2: very interesting thing, isn't it. It's a very difficult thing. Now,

1244
01:17:21,580 --> 01:17:25,299
Speaker 2: First of all, there is one there's another operative element

1245
01:17:25,380 --> 01:17:35,099
Speaker 2: here of naming. Naming makes make something real. It's just

1246
01:17:35,099 --> 01:17:38,860
Speaker 2: a fascinating element to it. It's like we decided to

1247
01:17:38,979 --> 01:17:46,219
Speaker 2: no longer name our saltwater fish because when they died,

1248
01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:51,660
Speaker 2: my wife got very very upset because it wasn't that

1249
01:17:51,740 --> 01:17:53,219
Speaker 2: a blue Chromis died.

1250
01:17:53,939 --> 01:17:58,620
Speaker 3: It was that Jerry died. There's a very big.

1251
01:17:58,380 --> 01:18:02,420
Speaker 2: Difference between you know, the blue Chromis died, the one

1252
01:18:02,420 --> 01:18:06,580
Speaker 2: with the yellow tail. Let's get another one. And Jerry

1253
01:18:06,620 --> 01:18:10,660
Speaker 2: died today at four o'clock. He was lying upside down

1254
01:18:10,700 --> 01:18:18,340
Speaker 2: in the tank. Names give a very real sense of reality.

1255
01:18:18,380 --> 01:18:22,740
Speaker 2: It is a fascinating, fascinating thing. So now, anyway, that's

1256
01:18:22,820 --> 01:18:25,099
Speaker 2: part of what is going on here. And Adam names

1257
01:18:25,140 --> 01:18:28,259
Speaker 2: all of these, all of these animals. But what does

1258
01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:31,260
Speaker 2: it mean with after the sentence that God wants to

1259
01:18:31,340 --> 01:18:34,059
Speaker 2: make him a helper who's his equal. So what is

1260
01:18:34,059 --> 01:18:39,620
Speaker 2: he bringing him animals for? Oh, an eagle? Wonderful? Maybe

1261
01:18:39,740 --> 01:18:43,540
Speaker 2: that is it. So let's see what else happens. Verse

1262
01:18:43,580 --> 01:18:47,660
Speaker 2: twenty Vaikard dom Seimo la cala aim I'm God, and

1263
01:18:48,059 --> 01:18:50,900
Speaker 2: Adam gave and the Adam the.

1264
01:18:50,780 --> 01:18:54,179
Speaker 3: Man, he still doesn't happen name. In effect, it's still

1265
01:18:54,220 --> 01:18:55,219
Speaker 3: the man each time.

1266
01:18:55,740 --> 01:18:59,620
Speaker 2: And the man gave names to all of the all

1267
01:18:59,660 --> 01:19:02,660
Speaker 2: of the animals, and to all of the birds of

1268
01:19:02,700 --> 01:19:06,380
Speaker 2: the sky, and to all the beasts of the wilderness.

1269
01:19:06,900 --> 01:19:10,900
Speaker 3: And uh, but it's such beautiful Nehbrew.

1270
01:19:11,019 --> 01:19:16,979
Speaker 2: But for Adam there was no finding a helper equal

1271
01:19:17,019 --> 01:19:22,139
Speaker 2: to him. Well, the implication seems to me pretty clear

1272
01:19:22,260 --> 01:19:25,380
Speaker 2: that he was looking for a helper among the animals.

1273
01:19:26,340 --> 01:19:30,939
Speaker 2: He was looking for companionship. Remember it all starts with

1274
01:19:31,059 --> 01:19:33,299
Speaker 2: God said it's not good for man to be alone.

1275
01:19:33,300 --> 01:19:36,939
Speaker 2: Remember that that's the statement, and then the next thing

1276
01:19:38,380 --> 01:19:42,179
Speaker 2: is God brings animals. Clearly there was something to be

1277
01:19:42,260 --> 01:19:46,620
Speaker 2: taught here. The major thing I think to be taught

1278
01:19:46,820 --> 01:19:51,059
Speaker 2: is that we need people that.

1279
01:19:52,580 --> 01:19:55,980
Speaker 3: Patcha all of the greatness.

1280
01:19:55,979 --> 01:19:59,099
Speaker 2: And there is in having dogs and God. The amount

1281
01:19:59,140 --> 01:20:03,700
Speaker 2: of joy that we get from our dogs sometimes bothers me. Okay,

1282
01:20:03,780 --> 01:20:07,220
Speaker 2: it is that high an amount of joy.

1283
01:20:07,300 --> 01:20:12,340
Speaker 3: That's But our real companion is it going to.

1284
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:16,139
Speaker 2: Be a human and a specific human the opposite sex human,

1285
01:20:16,380 --> 01:20:18,259
Speaker 2: which will come to in a moment because this stuff

1286
01:20:18,300 --> 01:20:20,580
Speaker 2: is filled with politically incorrect things.

1287
01:20:20,979 --> 01:20:22,780
Speaker 3: It's just filled with him.

1288
01:20:23,460 --> 01:20:26,500
Speaker 2: That it's not animals that he couldn't find his place

1289
01:20:26,540 --> 01:20:29,939
Speaker 2: among the animals. It's not an ecosystem, only he couldn't

1290
01:20:29,979 --> 01:20:33,300
Speaker 2: find it. First of all, they may help us animals,

1291
01:20:33,340 --> 01:20:37,700
Speaker 2: but they are never our equals. Whatever else will be said,

1292
01:20:37,740 --> 01:20:40,980
Speaker 2: between you and your German shepherd, it is not an equality.

1293
01:20:41,059 --> 01:20:44,660
Speaker 2: It is not an egalitarian relationship. I god willing, I

1294
01:20:44,700 --> 01:20:47,780
Speaker 2: certainly hope that is true. No, and it needs to

1295
01:20:47,780 --> 01:20:48,900
Speaker 2: be added in our time.

1296
01:20:50,340 --> 01:20:53,299
Speaker 3: But it is interesting. It's really a way of saying.

1297
01:20:53,820 --> 01:20:57,180
Speaker 2: The logical thing was for him to look among the animals,

1298
01:20:57,540 --> 01:21:02,500
Speaker 2: gave them names. You're a hippopotamus, you're a you're an eagle,

1299
01:21:02,660 --> 01:21:07,379
Speaker 2: you're a bird, you're a type of bird. So didn't work, okay,

1300
01:21:07,500 --> 01:21:13,580
Speaker 2: didn't work with the animals. So he could not find

1301
01:21:13,620 --> 01:21:16,459
Speaker 2: And it says he couldn't find it a helpmate equal

1302
01:21:16,500 --> 01:21:16,860
Speaker 2: to him.

1303
01:21:17,180 --> 01:21:18,860
Speaker 3: It doesn't say couldn't find a helpmate.

1304
01:21:19,420 --> 01:21:22,979
Speaker 2: Dogs are your helpers, Horses are your helpers, Cows are

1305
01:21:23,019 --> 01:21:24,060
Speaker 2: your helpers.

1306
01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:27,379
Speaker 3: But none of them are your equal. You're alone without

1307
01:21:27,380 --> 01:21:30,820
Speaker 3: an equal. That's the other thing that is being said here.

1308
01:21:31,660 --> 01:21:36,580
Speaker 2: Even if you have a companion human, but they're not

1309
01:21:36,700 --> 01:21:41,620
Speaker 2: your equal, you are still not fully cured of your loneliness.

1310
01:21:42,140 --> 01:21:45,299
Speaker 3: That's radical. That's radical.

1311
01:21:45,820 --> 01:21:49,539
Speaker 2: That's why kids can't stop it. They're not your equals,

1312
01:21:49,580 --> 01:21:55,219
Speaker 2: your kids, when all is said and done, that is

1313
01:21:55,340 --> 01:21:57,340
Speaker 2: not what will assuaze your loneliness.

1314
01:21:57,420 --> 01:22:03,540
Speaker 3: Children. You need an equal. It's powerful, powerful stuff.

1315
01:22:05,780 --> 01:22:11,700
Speaker 2: So Adam realizes he's not going to find a helper

1316
01:22:11,740 --> 01:22:15,780
Speaker 2: who's his equal among the animals Verse twenty one.

1317
01:22:18,180 --> 01:22:20,620
Speaker 3: And so God create.

1318
01:22:20,700 --> 01:22:24,580
Speaker 2: It's a great sleep twade ma is beyond sleep. It's

1319
01:22:24,620 --> 01:22:29,300
Speaker 2: really God gave an anesthetic would really be an appropriate

1320
01:22:29,380 --> 01:22:30,340
Speaker 2: modern translation.

1321
01:22:31,340 --> 01:22:34,860
Speaker 3: And he slept, and Adam and the man slept, and

1322
01:22:34,979 --> 01:22:38,299
Speaker 3: he took not the rib is not correct. Do any

1323
01:22:38,340 --> 01:22:39,660
Speaker 3: of you have rib? You do?

1324
01:22:40,260 --> 01:22:45,740
Speaker 2: It's really his side. He took from his side. Sela

1325
01:22:45,979 --> 01:22:50,059
Speaker 2: is really is really side. I checked into this. He

1326
01:22:50,140 --> 01:22:53,979
Speaker 2: took one of Adam's sides. That's really what it is.

1327
01:22:55,260 --> 01:23:00,339
Speaker 2: And then he closed the uh the the his skin

1328
01:23:01,620 --> 01:23:02,259
Speaker 2: over it.

1329
01:23:04,580 --> 01:23:08,179
Speaker 3: And God built. It's very interesting the term used here.

1330
01:23:08,979 --> 01:23:12,259
Speaker 2: It's not va yet Sahr, which we talked of earlier.

1331
01:23:12,620 --> 01:23:16,900
Speaker 2: It's not vayiv Ra created. It's not vas made. God

1332
01:23:17,019 --> 01:23:20,860
Speaker 2: built you have a vision of God the scope there

1333
01:23:21,140 --> 01:23:26,660
Speaker 2: now working on women. God built the side which he

1334
01:23:26,740 --> 01:23:31,300
Speaker 2: took from Adam into a woman.

1335
01:23:32,700 --> 01:23:40,540
Speaker 3: Issha, and he brought her to Adam. It's it's so beautiful.

1336
01:23:40,700 --> 01:23:45,139
Speaker 2: It could bring tears to your eyes, the touching miss

1337
01:23:45,260 --> 01:23:50,740
Speaker 2: of God's of God's acts. Here, Oh here you were

1338
01:23:50,780 --> 01:23:55,099
Speaker 2: looking here. I want you to meet by the way

1339
01:23:55,140 --> 01:23:58,139
Speaker 2: there is. The stuff is so rich in possibilities to

1340
01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:01,660
Speaker 2: read into it, like why didn't God do it while

1341
01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:05,700
Speaker 2: Adam was awake? He could have made it painless. God

1342
01:24:05,820 --> 01:24:08,380
Speaker 2: does miracles and so on? Why didn't God want him

1343
01:24:08,380 --> 01:24:09,500
Speaker 2: to see it? And it's something the.

1344
01:24:09,500 --> 01:24:12,460
Speaker 3: Rabbis, for example, deal with why why to put this sleep?

1345
01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:15,940
Speaker 3: And so on? Why from the side not from elsewhere.

1346
01:24:16,059 --> 01:24:19,019
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all stuff that you can you can

1347
01:24:19,059 --> 01:24:21,140
Speaker 2: work on as well.

1348
01:24:21,260 --> 01:24:28,260
Speaker 3: But God brings the brings her to Adam to the

1349
01:24:28,260 --> 01:24:31,380
Speaker 3: man again, it's Adam to the man. I would just

1350
01:24:31,540 --> 01:24:36,379
Speaker 3: like to tell you something that is pointed out by Sarna.

1351
01:24:37,180 --> 01:24:41,419
Speaker 2: We have no other example in the ancient Near East

1352
01:24:42,620 --> 01:24:48,019
Speaker 2: of a creation story of woman. This is unique in

1353
01:24:48,099 --> 01:24:54,059
Speaker 2: the ancient world. I think that alone tells you of

1354
01:24:54,180 --> 01:24:58,740
Speaker 2: a tremendous sense of awareness of the worth of woman as.

1355
01:24:58,540 --> 01:25:04,340
Speaker 3: Compared to parallel civilizations. Plus another thing that is pointed out.

1356
01:25:06,340 --> 01:25:12,660
Speaker 3: Man is created in one verse, woman in six. The

1357
01:25:12,820 --> 01:25:18,740
Speaker 3: care the poetry, the time is fascinating.

1358
01:25:19,140 --> 01:25:25,139
Speaker 2: He is, He's just made. He's just created. God to

1359
01:25:25,260 --> 01:25:30,460
Speaker 2: dust made man. But it's almost as if it took

1360
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:34,019
Speaker 2: God more time, it took more effort. And by the way,

1361
01:25:34,340 --> 01:25:38,020
Speaker 2: because you certainly know by now, I am not politically

1362
01:25:38,059 --> 01:25:41,660
Speaker 2: correct on feminist issues, but I think that it is

1363
01:25:42,979 --> 01:25:46,820
Speaker 2: totally in keeping with the text to note that creation

1364
01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:53,979
Speaker 2: works progressively, that what is created later is a greater

1365
01:25:54,140 --> 01:25:59,259
Speaker 2: creation than that which preceded it. Woman is last. Woman

1366
01:25:59,939 --> 01:26:04,019
Speaker 2: can be argued to be the greatest creation. She comes

1367
01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:07,339
Speaker 2: after and is last, just like man is a greater

1368
01:26:07,460 --> 01:26:11,060
Speaker 2: creation than animal. Animal is a greater creation than vegetable,

1369
01:26:11,540 --> 01:26:14,900
Speaker 2: and so on and so forth. Woman is the final

1370
01:26:15,140 --> 01:26:18,979
Speaker 2: creative act of God. That's it, that ends at all.

1371
01:26:19,500 --> 01:26:23,660
Speaker 2: I can't get better than that. Not only that, not

1372
01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:26,580
Speaker 2: only that, If I asked you would you rather be

1373
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:29,780
Speaker 2: made from dust or from a human, what would you

1374
01:26:29,820 --> 01:26:33,419
Speaker 2: say is superior Men are from dust, They're dirt.

1375
01:26:34,099 --> 01:26:35,979
Speaker 3: Just a lot of women would agree with that. Yeah,

1376
01:26:35,979 --> 01:26:36,660
Speaker 3: peace are dirt.

1377
01:26:36,740 --> 01:26:37,299
Speaker 2: Yeah, that act.

1378
01:26:39,820 --> 01:26:40,339
Speaker 3: But a woman.

1379
01:26:40,860 --> 01:26:43,540
Speaker 2: That is why when I read some feminist critiques of

1380
01:26:43,580 --> 01:26:47,100
Speaker 2: it as sexist, because she comes from his rib, it's sexist.

1381
01:26:47,140 --> 01:26:49,820
Speaker 2: She's made from what I don't understand. It's sexist in

1382
01:26:49,860 --> 01:26:54,500
Speaker 2: the other direction. If you read it without blinders, hers

1383
01:26:54,540 --> 01:26:59,139
Speaker 2: is a superior act, takes more time, It comes from

1384
01:26:59,140 --> 01:27:03,139
Speaker 2: a far greater sauce from human beings. It's the last

1385
01:27:03,180 --> 01:27:07,019
Speaker 2: of the creations. There's a reason for it. There's no

1386
01:27:07,140 --> 01:27:10,939
Speaker 2: reason for his being created. He's just created. She actually

1387
01:27:11,019 --> 01:27:14,620
Speaker 2: has a sense of intrinsic purpose. He's just made like

1388
01:27:14,740 --> 01:27:18,339
Speaker 2: animals are. It doesn't say, and God looked and short

1389
01:27:18,460 --> 01:27:21,299
Speaker 2: was not good for eagles to be alone.

1390
01:27:21,820 --> 01:27:23,700
Speaker 3: It's not good for Adam to be alone.

1391
01:27:23,820 --> 01:27:28,379
Speaker 2: She makes life possible for the human species, not because

1392
01:27:28,380 --> 01:27:31,179
Speaker 2: she pro creates, but because she makes it worth living.

1393
01:27:32,019 --> 01:27:36,820
Speaker 2: It's very powerful stuff. That is utterly I believe a

1394
01:27:36,860 --> 01:27:41,500
Speaker 2: statement of the sanctity of the female.

1395
01:27:41,700 --> 01:27:43,940
Speaker 3: I do not. I can't believe.

1396
01:27:43,580 --> 01:27:48,620
Speaker 2: That an honest reading of this reads an anti female

1397
01:27:48,740 --> 01:27:54,580
Speaker 2: or females are are less important. Some people say, well,

1398
01:27:54,580 --> 01:27:59,460
Speaker 2: it's an afterthought. No, it's a purposeful thought. I mean,

1399
01:27:59,460 --> 01:28:02,299
Speaker 2: does anybody really believe God didn't have females in mind.

1400
01:28:02,939 --> 01:28:07,260
Speaker 3: It's just to show to man this is what matters. Female.

1401
01:28:07,820 --> 01:28:12,220
Speaker 2: All the other stuff won't dissuage your loneliness. By the way, incidentally,

1402
01:28:12,460 --> 01:28:19,620
Speaker 2: fascinating thing here. Adam didn't say I'm lonely. Isn't that interesting?

1403
01:28:21,180 --> 01:28:24,139
Speaker 2: God said it's not good for Adam to be alone.

1404
01:28:25,860 --> 01:28:27,900
Speaker 2: Men don't know it's not good.

1405
01:28:27,700 --> 01:28:36,700
Speaker 3: To be alone. Isn't that fascinating? It is, truly, I

1406
01:28:36,820 --> 01:28:38,780
Speaker 3: tell you, it is moving.

1407
01:28:39,420 --> 01:28:42,220
Speaker 2: You would think he would say, God, my lonely and

1408
01:28:42,340 --> 01:28:45,019
Speaker 2: dogs just don't do it nothing.

1409
01:28:45,140 --> 01:28:48,019
Speaker 3: He's just walking around. Hey, it was.

1410
01:28:48,019 --> 01:28:53,380
Speaker 2: So happy too, and just having a grand time. He's

1411
01:28:53,420 --> 01:28:57,059
Speaker 2: a dunce. He's an absolute dunce. He doesn't know what

1412
01:28:57,180 --> 01:29:02,939
Speaker 2: it's like to live a life. God, God has to announce, Hello, Hello,

1413
01:29:03,979 --> 01:29:06,900
Speaker 2: it is not good for man to be alone. Oh okay,

1414
01:29:06,979 --> 01:29:08,860
Speaker 2: in that case, i'll put maybe that's why I had

1415
01:29:08,900 --> 01:29:12,019
Speaker 2: to put him to sleep. Now, it just occurred to me,

1416
01:29:12,099 --> 01:29:14,259
Speaker 2: maybe that's it. If he'd told him while he was awake.

1417
01:29:14,420 --> 01:29:16,620
Speaker 3: Forget it. I am very happy the way it is.

1418
01:29:16,780 --> 01:29:19,740
Speaker 3: I don't want a woman, thank you very much. I

1419
01:29:19,780 --> 01:29:22,139
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm just eating the possibilities. I don't know.

1420
01:29:26,580 --> 01:29:35,620
Speaker 2: Oh boy, anyway, now, in verse twenty three. God, so

1421
01:29:37,019 --> 01:29:41,620
Speaker 2: now he wakes up. Now Adam realizes, and it isn't

1422
01:29:41,620 --> 01:29:44,179
Speaker 2: it true in the life of every male. Males don't

1423
01:29:44,180 --> 01:29:45,379
Speaker 2: know it's not good to be alone.

1424
01:29:45,380 --> 01:29:48,860
Speaker 3: I think it's terrific. Oh free, I'm free. I can

1425
01:29:48,939 --> 01:29:51,059
Speaker 3: go from women to women, or no women at all,

1426
01:29:51,500 --> 01:29:53,740
Speaker 3: or just go to baseball games, or just do my

1427
01:29:54,019 --> 01:29:56,340
Speaker 3: law work. I'm free.

1428
01:29:56,540 --> 01:29:59,860
Speaker 2: But then when they meet a woman, Oh, they wake up.

1429
01:30:00,540 --> 01:30:02,940
Speaker 2: And here he goes sotapalm.

1430
01:30:03,380 --> 01:30:09,939
Speaker 3: This time it is one of my it's a bone

1431
01:30:09,979 --> 01:30:13,060
Speaker 3: of my bones. It is the flesh of my flesh.

1432
01:30:13,099 --> 01:30:14,059
Speaker 3: And he gives her a name.

1433
01:30:14,820 --> 01:30:18,620
Speaker 2: S He names are important, And he said, and this

1434
01:30:19,220 --> 01:30:23,019
Speaker 2: we call Eshah because from an Ish she was taken.

1435
01:30:23,099 --> 01:30:28,620
Speaker 2: Ish is man Isha's woman. Fascinating about spelling is in

1436
01:30:28,740 --> 01:30:33,740
Speaker 2: Hebrew is alif yud shin. So you know, to make

1437
01:30:33,820 --> 01:30:39,460
Speaker 2: anything any a female noun in Hebrew, you add a

1438
01:30:39,580 --> 01:30:43,260
Speaker 2: commas the ah or awe sound under the last consonant,

1439
01:30:43,260 --> 01:30:46,059
Speaker 2: and add a hey. So I'll do it to you

1440
01:30:46,140 --> 01:30:47,259
Speaker 2: in a make up English word.

1441
01:30:49,099 --> 01:30:50,780
Speaker 3: Bone. All right, we had bone here.

1442
01:30:50,979 --> 01:30:55,660
Speaker 2: Bone would be masculine, Bonah would be how you would

1443
01:30:55,660 --> 01:30:58,580
Speaker 2: make hebraized the feminine of it.

1444
01:30:58,979 --> 01:31:01,939
Speaker 3: So you have ish is man. Isha is woman.

1445
01:31:02,780 --> 01:31:07,420
Speaker 2: But it's fascinating that you drop thed of ish to

1446
01:31:07,580 --> 01:31:11,420
Speaker 2: make ishah. And there's a lot of plays on it

1447
01:31:11,540 --> 01:31:17,860
Speaker 2: because it's fascinating thing. The word for fire in Hebrew

1448
01:31:18,460 --> 01:31:21,979
Speaker 2: is ash, which is the same as the word for

1449
01:31:22,059 --> 01:31:25,660
Speaker 2: a woman, except with the hay at the end. So

1450
01:31:25,700 --> 01:31:29,740
Speaker 2: it says, if woman is fire and hay which is

1451
01:31:29,780 --> 01:31:32,339
Speaker 2: the which in Hebrew is the initial for God.

1452
01:31:32,939 --> 01:31:34,900
Speaker 3: Woman is fire and God.

1453
01:31:35,540 --> 01:31:37,340
Speaker 2: It's just to give you an idea of what can

1454
01:31:37,380 --> 01:31:39,219
Speaker 2: be done with the Hebrew. And I don't think it's

1455
01:31:39,260 --> 01:31:42,459
Speaker 2: too much reading into it, because the spellings here are important.

1456
01:31:42,460 --> 01:31:45,860
Speaker 2: They have reasons for them. Anyway, he wakes up and

1457
01:31:45,900 --> 01:31:51,300
Speaker 2: he's really impressed. And the final sentence is absolutely incredible,

1458
01:31:51,380 --> 01:31:56,900
Speaker 2: final sentence of chapter two. And that is why this

1459
01:31:57,260 --> 01:32:01,500
Speaker 2: is so funny, because it's like out of nowhere. It's

1460
01:32:01,540 --> 01:32:05,059
Speaker 2: a it's like a and now a word from your

1461
01:32:05,220 --> 01:32:10,219
Speaker 2: psychiatrist that really is out of nowhere. We had nothing

1462
01:32:10,340 --> 01:32:12,299
Speaker 2: like this. All we have is a story till now,

1463
01:32:12,620 --> 01:32:15,179
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden is a psychiatric insight.

1464
01:32:15,780 --> 01:32:18,259
Speaker 2: And therefore a man will leave his mother, his father

1465
01:32:18,340 --> 01:32:22,540
Speaker 2: and mother and clinging to his wife and they will

1466
01:32:22,580 --> 01:32:24,740
Speaker 2: be as one flesh.

1467
01:32:25,260 --> 01:32:25,939
Speaker 3: Isn't that grect?

1468
01:32:26,500 --> 01:32:29,220
Speaker 2: It doesn't tell you any part of the story what

1469
01:32:29,380 --> 01:32:43,259
Speaker 2: happens here. It is very interesting. There are two ways

1470
01:32:43,300 --> 01:32:46,740
Speaker 2: of reading Alkane the first two words of twenty four

1471
01:32:48,059 --> 01:32:56,340
Speaker 2: as prescriptive or descriptive. It is either prescribing how we

1472
01:32:56,380 --> 01:33:01,259
Speaker 2: should act or describing how in fact we act.

1473
01:33:02,059 --> 01:33:04,260
Speaker 3: Let me show you both. Let's do the descriptive.

1474
01:33:05,300 --> 01:33:08,900
Speaker 2: Remember the sentence before, Oh, look, this is a bone

1475
01:33:08,939 --> 01:33:11,420
Speaker 2: of my bones, This is the flesh.

1476
01:33:11,140 --> 01:33:13,100
Speaker 3: Of my flesh.

1477
01:33:13,580 --> 01:33:17,219
Speaker 2: So therefore a man leaves his father and his mother

1478
01:33:17,540 --> 01:33:20,900
Speaker 2: and clings them to his woman or wife, and they

1479
01:33:20,900 --> 01:33:24,140
Speaker 2: are as one flesh. You get it. It's a continuation

1480
01:33:24,220 --> 01:33:28,939
Speaker 2: of the preceding verse. You women are part of me,

1481
01:33:29,939 --> 01:33:33,139
Speaker 2: So I therefore leave my parents and rejoin you, and

1482
01:33:33,180 --> 01:33:33,979
Speaker 2: we are as one.

1483
01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:36,340
Speaker 3: Flesh, because that's how we started as one flesh.

1484
01:33:37,059 --> 01:33:44,260
Speaker 2: That's descriptive prescriptive, and both are fully accurate. Is therefore, no,

1485
01:33:45,220 --> 01:33:50,179
Speaker 2: you can't cling unto a woman until you leave your parents. Men,

1486
01:33:50,620 --> 01:33:53,900
Speaker 2: you must grow up in order to have the woman

1487
01:33:53,900 --> 01:33:57,460
Speaker 2: who is your equal. If your mommy's boy, you can't

1488
01:33:57,500 --> 01:34:00,379
Speaker 2: cling to your wife. You either cling to your parents

1489
01:34:00,580 --> 01:34:03,259
Speaker 2: or you cling to your wife. You can't cling to both,

1490
01:34:04,780 --> 01:34:07,900
Speaker 2: and it's telling you what you want to do by

1491
01:34:09,099 --> 01:34:11,180
Speaker 2: keep calling.

1492
01:34:11,620 --> 01:34:16,979
Speaker 3: No, no, that's right, keep calling, keep visiting and all

1493
01:34:17,019 --> 01:34:19,780
Speaker 3: of that. But bye bye.

1494
01:34:21,099 --> 01:34:25,460
Speaker 2: Very powerful the prescriptive sentence. And parents need to know

1495
01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:26,580
Speaker 2: that about their sons.

1496
01:34:26,780 --> 01:34:27,179
Speaker 3: Bye bye.

1497
01:34:28,140 --> 01:34:31,900
Speaker 2: It doesn't say that about daughters because apparently the daughter's ability.

1498
01:34:32,660 --> 01:34:33,139
Speaker 3: It doesn't.

1499
01:34:33,260 --> 01:34:36,219
Speaker 2: I must say, I may, this may be stepping on

1500
01:34:36,260 --> 01:34:40,099
Speaker 2: truly virgin territory in the worst sense of the word,

1501
01:34:40,580 --> 01:34:41,179
Speaker 2: but I I.

1502
01:34:42,660 --> 01:34:43,179
Speaker 3: You don't.

1503
01:34:44,019 --> 01:34:47,460
Speaker 2: As a man, I never recall men when when talking

1504
01:34:47,500 --> 01:34:50,939
Speaker 2: about girls and then women that we would be dating.

1505
01:34:51,460 --> 01:34:54,339
Speaker 3: It was that period when it went from girls to women.

1506
01:34:55,300 --> 01:34:57,260
Speaker 2: But I mean that not in terms of feminism, in

1507
01:34:57,300 --> 01:34:59,820
Speaker 2: terms of simply age that.

1508
01:35:00,420 --> 01:35:01,500
Speaker 3: I don't remember though.

1509
01:35:01,340 --> 01:35:04,380
Speaker 2: A guy saying, well, she's too attached to her mother

1510
01:35:04,540 --> 01:35:07,460
Speaker 2: or too attached to her father. I must say, I

1511
01:35:07,540 --> 01:35:10,660
Speaker 2: don't recall that among gud we'd have other complaints, but

1512
01:35:10,700 --> 01:35:11,860
Speaker 2: that was not one of them.

1513
01:35:12,340 --> 01:35:14,660
Speaker 3: But it is not an uncommon complaint at all.

1514
01:35:14,900 --> 01:35:17,979
Speaker 2: He hasn't severed his ties and you know where he's

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Speaker 2: his mother's boy or whatever.

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01:35:19,660 --> 01:35:20,620
Speaker 3: It is a complaint.

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01:35:20,740 --> 01:35:23,700
Speaker 2: Women want a man to be a man, and that

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01:35:23,860 --> 01:35:26,260
Speaker 2: is part of being a man is growing up and

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01:35:26,300 --> 01:35:29,459
Speaker 2: it's painful, and it means leaving mommy and daddy.

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Speaker 3: Not abandoning mommy.

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01:35:31,260 --> 01:35:36,059
Speaker 2: And daddy, please, that's a terrible thing, but leaving and

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01:35:36,180 --> 01:35:40,260
Speaker 2: that is prescribed. Remember we are not talking about Exodus

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01:35:40,340 --> 01:35:44,299
Speaker 2: or Deuteronomy. We're talking about Genesis. This is the second

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01:35:44,540 --> 01:35:47,419
Speaker 2: chapter of the creation of the world, and it tells

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01:35:47,420 --> 01:35:50,299
Speaker 2: you the way the world ought to be From the.

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01:35:50,260 --> 01:35:51,780
Speaker 3: Creation of Adam and Eve.

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01:35:51,860 --> 01:35:55,220
Speaker 2: God is saying, leave mommy and Daddy and cling to

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01:35:55,260 --> 01:35:58,540
Speaker 2: your wife. The other thing to be learned is that

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01:35:58,580 --> 01:36:02,979
Speaker 2: there was a monogamous ideal from creation. Polygamy was allowed,

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01:36:03,620 --> 01:36:06,939
Speaker 2: but monogamy was the ideal. It does not say he

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01:36:07,019 --> 01:36:10,900
Speaker 2: shall cling unto his wives. There's an extremely simple reason

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01:36:10,939 --> 01:36:15,259
Speaker 2: for that, because then they're not his equals. God said

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01:36:15,300 --> 01:36:17,939
Speaker 2: I will create a helper who is his equal, not

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01:36:18,140 --> 01:36:19,740
Speaker 2: helpers who are his equal.

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01:36:19,900 --> 01:36:23,259
Speaker 3: Why don't God eight three women? He'd have been overjoyed.

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01:36:22,700 --> 01:36:28,460
Speaker 2: Mad' thattt waking up in the morning, Wo Hell, Eve, Raquel,

1537
01:36:28,900 --> 01:36:32,260
Speaker 2: and Barbara, Holy cra this is great. Put me to

1538
01:36:32,300 --> 01:36:37,780
Speaker 2: sleep again tonight did not work out that way. To

1539
01:36:38,019 --> 01:36:43,660
Speaker 2: have somewhat polygamy is inequality. There can be loved. There

1540
01:36:43,660 --> 01:36:45,540
Speaker 2: can be all sorts of things. And by the way,

1541
01:36:45,820 --> 01:36:50,180
Speaker 2: you will see later on wherever the tourette depicts polygamy,

1542
01:36:50,300 --> 01:36:54,900
Speaker 2: it's awful. It's allowed, but it's miserable. One is loved,

1543
01:36:54,939 --> 01:36:56,299
Speaker 2: one is not loved, one.

1544
01:36:56,180 --> 01:36:58,259
Speaker 3: Is even hated. It's not good.

1545
01:36:59,580 --> 01:37:03,860
Speaker 2: We are meant to have an equal helper, we males,

1546
01:37:05,460 --> 01:37:08,620
Speaker 2: and it is not to be a polygamous relationship because it.

1547
01:37:08,580 --> 01:37:12,860
Speaker 3: Is not one of equality. In this regard.

1548
01:37:12,900 --> 01:37:17,260
Speaker 2: One final thought, God said it is not good for

1549
01:37:17,340 --> 01:37:21,260
Speaker 2: men to be alone. And I mean this absolutely sincerely.

1550
01:37:21,380 --> 01:37:26,700
Speaker 2: God could have said. God could have therefore created a community.

1551
01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:30,339
Speaker 2: God could have created you know, ten men, ten women,

1552
01:37:31,019 --> 01:37:35,099
Speaker 2: sixty two men, right, the whole Thank you.

1553
01:37:39,979 --> 01:37:43,780
Speaker 3: Well, at least they didn't say wrong. They're good. Now,

1554
01:37:43,780 --> 01:37:45,339
Speaker 3: that's a very important thing.

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01:37:46,300 --> 01:37:52,820
Speaker 2: Loneliness is not assuaged by numbers. According to this, it

1556
01:37:52,939 --> 01:38:00,019
Speaker 2: is assuaged by a partner. And the partner is opposite sex,

1557
01:38:00,540 --> 01:38:03,660
Speaker 2: and the partner is equal, and the partner is a helper.

1558
01:38:04,900 --> 01:38:08,380
Speaker 2: To stop being alone, you need all of those. If

1559
01:38:08,420 --> 01:38:12,219
Speaker 2: it's not equal, they're still alone. If it's not a helper,

1560
01:38:12,380 --> 01:38:15,300
Speaker 2: it's still alone. If it's not the opposite sex, it's

1561
01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:18,979
Speaker 2: still alone. This is not the sort of thing people

1562
01:38:19,059 --> 01:38:23,740
Speaker 2: like to say these days, where theoretically all human relationships

1563
01:38:23,780 --> 01:38:28,660
Speaker 2: are equally desirable and wonderful. God knows I deeply believe

1564
01:38:28,700 --> 01:38:31,820
Speaker 2: in friends, and I believe couples need friends like singles

1565
01:38:31,860 --> 01:38:34,740
Speaker 2: need friends, and we need friends of the same sex

1566
01:38:34,939 --> 01:38:40,740
Speaker 2: very badly. But for the ultimate existential human aloneness that

1567
01:38:40,820 --> 01:38:46,460
Speaker 2: God describes here, it is assuaged, according to this by

1568
01:38:46,500 --> 01:38:51,900
Speaker 2: a helper of the opposite sex, and only one, And

1569
01:38:51,939 --> 01:38:55,139
Speaker 2: that's the way it was designed. That doesn't mean that

1570
01:38:55,180 --> 01:38:58,979
Speaker 2: if you don't have one, or you lost one through

1571
01:38:59,780 --> 01:39:03,700
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, and particularly death for example, that you

1572
01:39:03,780 --> 01:39:06,860
Speaker 2: are doomed to a life of being lonely.

1573
01:39:08,019 --> 01:39:11,499
Speaker 3: We're not talking lonely. Remember, Adam didn't feel lonely.

1574
01:39:11,860 --> 01:39:14,900
Speaker 2: We're not talking about loneliness in the senstory, I feel lonely.

1575
01:39:15,540 --> 01:39:19,139
Speaker 2: We're talking in the deepest human sense of what is

1576
01:39:19,300 --> 01:39:22,340
Speaker 2: most good for you. God said it's not good for

1577
01:39:22,460 --> 01:39:25,059
Speaker 2: men to be alone. He didn't say I feel bad

1578
01:39:25,099 --> 01:39:29,900
Speaker 2: that Adam feels lonely. Adam didn't feel lonely. God knew

1579
01:39:29,979 --> 01:39:33,459
Speaker 2: he was alone, and it's not good to be alone.

1580
01:39:33,780 --> 01:39:36,220
Speaker 2: By the way, it's particularly not good for men to

1581
01:39:36,300 --> 01:39:39,420
Speaker 2: be alone. It didn't say it's not good for women

1582
01:39:39,460 --> 01:39:42,660
Speaker 2: to be alone, because when women are alone, they don't

1583
01:39:42,740 --> 01:39:43,860
Speaker 2: tear the world apart.

1584
01:39:44,660 --> 01:39:45,939
Speaker 3: But single men do.

1585
01:39:47,420 --> 01:39:52,139
Speaker 2: The most consistent facet of crime, of violent crime in

1586
01:39:52,180 --> 01:39:55,860
Speaker 2: the world, in the world and certainly in our society,

1587
01:39:56,019 --> 01:40:00,700
Speaker 2: is not race, is not class. It is singleness of men.

1588
01:40:02,019 --> 01:40:09,139
Speaker 2: Single men are over ninety percent of the murderers, of

1589
01:40:09,180 --> 01:40:13,340
Speaker 2: the mass murderers, the single murderers of the rapists of

1590
01:40:13,420 --> 01:40:18,460
Speaker 2: our society. That's what God is saying, not that your

1591
01:40:18,820 --> 01:40:22,979
Speaker 2: loneliness is the issue. Loneliness can be assuaged with a

1592
01:40:22,979 --> 01:40:25,380
Speaker 2: lot of people and friends, thank god, it can not.

1593
01:40:25,460 --> 01:40:30,179
Speaker 2: Everybody can marry, people get widowed. But it is not good.

1594
01:40:30,380 --> 01:40:35,379
Speaker 2: It is not healthy not to have this opposite sex helper,

1595
01:40:36,099 --> 01:40:36,939
Speaker 2: who is your equal.

1596
01:40:38,740 --> 01:40:41,219
Speaker 3: That's the point that is really being made there, and.

1597
01:40:41,180 --> 01:40:44,220
Speaker 2: It is a very important one, and it goes to

1598
01:40:44,300 --> 01:40:47,499
Speaker 2: the heart of what God observes about the human condition.

1599
01:40:48,500 --> 01:40:55,259
Speaker 2: And this unbelievable Chapter two ends with a new point.

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01:40:57,099 --> 01:40:59,979
Speaker 2: The two of them were naked, Adam and his wife,

1601
01:41:01,300 --> 01:41:06,620
Speaker 2: but they weren't embarrassed. How that's possible. We'll see you

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01:41:06,660 --> 01:41:09,220
Speaker 2: next time. Thank you very much, Thank you.

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