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Speaker 2: It's Kevin mccallaugh Monday through Friday on that cavin Show

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Speaker 2: Time and Now from the legendary Connors and Sullivan Broadcast Studios.

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Speaker 1: Here and welcome in Kevin mccallaugh, Glad to have you

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Speaker 1: all things related to the show, and every single day

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Speaker 1: we're here with you, walking this journey together, trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out how to answer the big questions in life,

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Speaker 1: Why am I here? How do I live? What's next?

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Speaker 1: And trying to put it into context that helps us

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Speaker 1: back to being able to just think clearly. Clarity brings

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Speaker 1: you can live as a courageous person with a great

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Speaker 1: amount of clarity, you will have a very meaningful life.

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Speaker 1: It also might be the kind of life that makes

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Speaker 1: other people uncomfortable. And so from that standpoint, you just

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Speaker 1: gotta do what you gotta do. But Kevin mccallaughch here

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Speaker 1: We've got a great show for you today, and friends,

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Speaker 1: I'm also very excited we need to do some amazing

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Speaker 1: know you hear me say this all the time. Context matters,

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Speaker 1: timing matters, and facts. Despite the best efforts of our

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Speaker 1: start out with something today, very simple and very inconvenient

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Speaker 1: for all of the critics of President Trump. His numbers

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Speaker 1: on December eighteenth, today of the first year of their

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Speaker 1: most recent terms for the last four presidents Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump right now stands at forty three point six

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Speaker 1: approval rating. Now, if you had been watching the media

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is at forty three point six at this

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Speaker 1: focus put elsewhere. Exactly. That's exactly the point. The press

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCulloch. Welcome back, Kevin mccallaugh. Glad have you with us.

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Speaker 1: It's that Kevin Show. Lots of news and stuff to

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Speaker 3: Change here he is from New York.

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Speaker 8: That Keviny Kevin McCulloch.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. It's that Kevin Show, that kevinshow

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Speaker 1: dot com in four hundred and seven cities across the country. Friends,

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Speaker 1: thank you for welcoming us into your life. Whether you're

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Speaker 1: in the car home or listening on the podcast, whatever,

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Speaker 1: We're just grateful that you're there. You know how passionately

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Speaker 1: I have been speaking this week about not just the

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Speaker 1: shooting in Australia, which was a disaster in and of itself,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that you now likely have the shooter

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Speaker 1: at Brown University yelling alahuakbar before he opens fire. In

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Speaker 1: that shooting, we have a mysterious death of a college

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Speaker 1: professor about an hour and a half north of there

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Speaker 1: that targeted what appears to be a Jewish professor because

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Speaker 1: he's a supporter of Israel and because he is Jewish.

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Speaker 1: This is an increasing problem across the globe and it

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Speaker 1: demands that we look at it and see it for

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Speaker 1: what it is. And here to discuss this with me

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Speaker 1: is Jaielle Eckstein of International Fellowship of Christian Jews. And

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Speaker 1: I've never spoken with you on the show, but I've

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Speaker 1: spoken with your dad many times in the past and

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Speaker 1: grateful for your work. There's got to be a certain degree.

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Speaker 1: I have so many Jewish friends, many of them are

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Speaker 1: contributors on the show. I remember when October seventh happened,

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Speaker 1: there was a stiffening of the spine and kind of

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Speaker 1: a what are we walking into in this time period

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Speaker 1: of history? And that really hasn't relaxed since October seventh,

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Speaker 1: regardless of how long the war carried on or anything else.

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Speaker 1: As you see these events, what look like in the

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Speaker 1: Australian case, at least Iranian's influence, Iran's influence on a

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Speaker 1: couple of radicalized guys that are targeting Jews, and this

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Speaker 1: is I believe this is going to be their method

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Speaker 1: of activity going forward, to be more selective and do

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Speaker 1: small groups and so forth. What goes through your mind

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Speaker 1: when you see these headlines come up.

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Speaker 12: So often, Well, Heaven, first of all, thank you so

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Speaker 12: much for having me on your show and for everything

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Speaker 12: that you do to spread the light of truth and

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Speaker 12: awareness to the world.

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Speaker 5: It's terrifying to see what's been going on from.

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Speaker 12: Australia to London, to America to Israel. And what I

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Speaker 12: realize and you realize, and I think so many people

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Speaker 12: Middle East, and it's.

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Speaker 5: Not targeting only Jews. It's the terrorists themselves.

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Speaker 12: That they say, first we're going for the Saturday people,

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Speaker 12: the Jews, and then we're going for the Sunday people,

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Speaker 12: the Christians. That first we're going for the little Satan

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Speaker 12: who's Israel, and then we're going for the big Satan

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Speaker 12: and the medium Satan of America and Europe. That the

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Speaker 12: second we realize that we are all infidels in the

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Speaker 12: eyes of these monsters, we can come together in order

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Speaker 12: of different ways to fight it. We can sit behind

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Speaker 12: say there's nothing I can do. Everyone else has to

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Speaker 12: do things and they're not doing enough. Or we can

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Speaker 12: each do our part. A little bit that we can

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Speaker 12: do collectively can change the world. So that's what I

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Speaker 12: see every day, how people who are doing their part

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Speaker 12: and within this darkness, we need to have outrage, but

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Speaker 12: even more than.

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Speaker 5: That, we have to have action.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I think action is the calling and nothing short

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Speaker 1: of that is acceptable. And I think that starts with

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Speaker 1: government personnel responding acknowledging. In the Australia case, the authorities

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Speaker 1: that we're talking to, the reporters refuse to mention names.

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Speaker 1: To the Western outlets that refuse to talk about the

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Speaker 1: background of the attackers. In the Brown University case that

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Speaker 1: They have twenty five witnesses that know what the shooter said,

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Speaker 1: but they would they refuse to release that officially through

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Speaker 1: official channels. It is as though that this radicalized opposition

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Speaker 1: to all things Jewish and Christian has so frightened the

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Speaker 1: people that should be the fiercest defenders of freedom that

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Speaker 1: they're now coddling and modifying their own reactions on facts

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Speaker 1: so that they don't offend the wrong people and end up,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the wrong end of that situation.

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Speaker 12: Well, Kevin, I think we have to remember that history

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Speaker 12: doesn't repeat itself.

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Speaker 5: History rhymes.

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Speaker 12: We are right now seeing the same rearing of evil's

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Speaker 12: head that we've seen throughout history, and we have to

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Speaker 12: be able to define it. And when we see evil

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Speaker 12: setting in I believe we have to respond in two ways.

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Speaker 12: On one hand, we have to curse the darkness. We

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Speaker 12: have to call out the darkness. We have to say

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Speaker 12: it's unacceptable. We have to name it and create policies

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Speaker 12: that will not let the evil spread. And on the

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Speaker 12: other hand, we have to bring the light. And especially

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Speaker 12: now over the holiday of Hanukkah and Christmas, the holiday

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Speaker 12: of light.

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Speaker 5: What does that mean?

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Speaker 12: And what I've seen living here in Israel since October seventh,

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Speaker 12: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, the ministry that

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Speaker 12: I lead, because so many people have done what they

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Speaker 12: can to bring light, We've been able to provide over

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Speaker 12: six million meals to people in Israel under fire every single.

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Speaker 5: Day that we're delivering these.

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Speaker 12: We've been able to place thousands of bomb shelters at

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Speaker 12: children's schools across Israel, and we've been able to go

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Speaker 12: boxes to Christians in Syria.

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Speaker 5: Who are being persecuted.

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Speaker 8: So there's one.

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Speaker 12: Side of holding the government officials accountable and to call

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Speaker 12: out the darkness and not let it spread. And then

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Speaker 12: there's another side that each one of us who sanctified

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Speaker 12: life have to do what we can to.

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Speaker 5: Bring the light to the world.

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Speaker 1: I wish my listeners could see your face right now,

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Speaker 1: because you're smiling as you say this, with this big,

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Speaker 1: beautiful smile, and you're kind of a living bodyment of

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about real quickly. IFCJ has been around

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Speaker 1: quite some time. The concept was rather novel that you

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Speaker 1: would bring these two what history had sometimes seen as

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Speaker 1: disparate groups together. But I don't know of, at least

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Speaker 1: in the evangelical world. I don't know of any evangelical

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Speaker 1: and so I've always loved the concept of IFCJ. But

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Speaker 1: for people that are brand new to what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Just give us the elevator pitch.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Kevin Well. We're not involved in politics.

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Speaker 12: We're involved in seating the scriptures and saving human lives.

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Speaker 12: And so when we read the scriptures, it says to

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Speaker 12: feed the hungry, and to clothe the naked, and to

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Speaker 5: We see in the New.

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Speaker 12: Testament that Christians are grafted onto the rich olive tree

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Speaker 12: of Israel. We're commanded to pray for the piece of

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Speaker 12: Jerusalem to be those watchmen on the walls. And so

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Speaker 12: that's what we do every day. We feed the hungry,

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Speaker 12: clothe the naked, place bomb shelters. And we're part of

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Speaker 12: biblical coming to fruition by bringing Jewish people home from

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Speaker 12: all four corners of the earth, escaping anti Semitism to

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Speaker 5: So when we come.

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Speaker 12: Together, just like it says in Psalms, he named atovu,

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Speaker 12: man named Cheveta, How good and how pleasant it is

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Speaker 12: when brethren's well.

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Speaker 5: Together in peace, we're able to accomplish a lot.

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Speaker 1: I love that I have CJ dot org. If people

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Speaker 12: Can go to the website and you can become part

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Speaker 12: of our ministry of doing good in the world. And

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Speaker 12: you can follow my life on all the social media

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Speaker 12: what it's like living on the ground.

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Speaker 1: In Israel, and I will guarantee you you will not

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Speaker 1: be bored. It is it is. It is a happening

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Speaker 1: time to be living in Kyle. Thanks for taking some

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Speaker 1: time to be with us today and for just giving

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Speaker 1: that we can take.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough coming back from Times Square, Don't go anyway, Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome back Kevin McCullough, that Kevin Show, that kevinshow dot Com,

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Speaker 1: for all the social for all the podcasts, for the videos,

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Speaker 1: for the columns, for the newsletter I write on travel.

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Speaker 1: It's all there, and I hope that you will check

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Speaker 1: it's just full of common sense and hopefully courage and

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Speaker 1: what is good and what is right. I hope that

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Speaker 1: we take opportunity where it presents itself as God kind

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Speaker 1: of opens doors and says Hey, I want you to

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Speaker 1: think or do something about this. I pray that we will.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm very very encouraged that at the end

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Speaker 1: of suicides prevented, marriages, healed, relationships reconciled. That Focus on

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Speaker 1: They're heard at different times, but they are basically a

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Speaker 1: they're able to do that. It just it stuns me.

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Speaker 1: It blows me away, and I'm just so grateful for

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Speaker 1: hit backslash Christmas. Focus on the family dot Com slash Christmas,

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Speaker 1: and you have a gift today. It's going to go

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Speaker 1: it really is meaningful when you give your dollars today,

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Speaker 1: because it could be twice as many marriages helped from

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Speaker 1: your gift. Next year, it could be twice as many

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Speaker 1: financial gift plays a role in that, and it's just

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Speaker 1: really really remarkable. Focus on the family slash Christmas. Focus

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Speaker 1: for those of you that have heard me, I'm not

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Speaker 1: giving up on this. We've got more than one hundred

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Speaker 1: but also tell you of the urgent importance of liberating

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Speaker 1: but Christian Solidarity International has not, and they continue to

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Speaker 1: We'll get you there, and I hope that you will.

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Speaker 1: I hope that you will do that. You can also

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Speaker 1: a captive free today. Jesus' name Kevin mcckella, Thank you

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Speaker 1: our two straight ahead.

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Speaker 2: Right ahead, Everything you need to know about the headlines

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Speaker 2: of the day and a perspective to give some eternity

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Speaker 2: to it. Claus Practical tips for family life, spiritual life,

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Speaker 2: and good old regular life. It's Kevin McCollough Monday through

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Speaker 2: Friday on That Kevin Show and now from the legendary

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Speaker 2: Connors and Sullivan Broadcast Studios.

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Speaker 4: The man who is not what he wants to be,

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Speaker 4: but he's way grateful that he is not what he

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Speaker 4: used to be. Dear welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It's Kevin McCullough and That Kevin Show, that Kevinshow dot

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Speaker 1: Com Always glad to have you with us. It is Thursday,

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Speaker 1: so that means in this hour we will speak with

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Speaker 1: Shelley Goldberg and she's got some very beneficial tips for

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Speaker 1: you to survive as a parent the holidays, particularly with

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Speaker 1: those relatives that may not always be the most joyous

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Speaker 1: to be around. Let's just put it that way. Good

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Speaker 1: stuff with Shelley later this hour. I hope that you'll

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Speaker 1: stick around for it. I want to get to a

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Speaker 1: because it shows that even in places where you may

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Speaker 1: feel very outnumbered, effort still matters. This week in Massachusetts,

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Speaker 1: a battle was quietly won, not just over bureaucracy, but

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Speaker 1: a decision that should give every American pause, the Commonwealth

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Speaker 1: scrubbed language from its foster care licensing rules that forced

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Speaker 1: potential parents to promise affirmation of a child's orientation and

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Speaker 1: was once a badge of ideological litmus testing is now

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Speaker 1: officially moved aside, a response to federal pressure, legal challenge,

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Speaker 1: and common sense finally breaking through, and we need all

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Speaker 1: of those. This change, however limited, is significant. It marks

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Speaker 1: a rare moment in our culture where the tide of

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Speaker 1: And it was hardly a spontaneous act of enlightenment from

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Speaker 1: the political class. Rather, it was a forced reckoning after

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Speaker 1: the state realized its foster care system was barreling down

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Speaker 1: a path that would have driven devoted, loving Christian families

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Speaker 1: out of the system entirely. By the way, this is

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Speaker 1: why the President signed a bill yesterday extending new foster

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Speaker 1: care reform across the country that is going to help

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Speaker 1: provide some of the protections. At the heart of the

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Speaker 1: controversy were remarkable couples, couples like Heath and Lydia Marvin,

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Speaker 1: who since twenty twenty had opened their home to eight children,

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Speaker 1: many of them with special needs. Their ministry of mercy

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Speaker 1: wasn't born of politics. It was born of scripture. As

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Speaker 1: James puts it, so clearly religion that God our Father

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Speaker 1: accepts as pure and faultless as this to look after

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Speaker 1: orphans and widows in their distress. That's James one, twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty five, Massachusetts told these parents they

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Speaker 1: could no longer serve unless they agreed to the new

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Speaker 1: ideological Pledge, a pledge that would require them to affirm

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Speaker 1: whatever gender narrative a child claimed, even when that conflicted

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Speaker 1: with their deeply held Christian convictions. Refused to sign, and

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Speaker 1: your license is revoked. Their decades of faithful service didn't count,

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Speaker 1: just torn up, thrown out. Their willingness to care for

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Speaker 1: the most vulnerable didn't suffice. What mattered was compliance within ideology.

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Speaker 1: This was not some minor administrative tweak. It was a

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Speaker 1: state saying to parents, you can love kids, but only

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Speaker 1: if you abandon your biblical view of human identity. This

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Speaker 1: is ideology dressed up as virtue, compelling conscience, penalizing belief,

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Speaker 1: and disqualifying those whose faith teaches that boys and girls

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Speaker 1: are created distinct and good. I've never understood that, by

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Speaker 1: the way, friends, why do people get so bent out

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Speaker 1: of shape to say that boys and girls are different?

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Speaker 1: They're distinct, They're very distinct. I have a daughter, I

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Speaker 1: have sons. They couldn't be more distinct in terms of

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Speaker 1: how they think and how they respond and how they act.

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Speaker 1: But God created him that way, and he created them

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Speaker 1: both in his image. Now, to demand ideological conformity in

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Speaker 1: exchange for the privilege of caring for children isn't compassion.

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Speaker 1: That's coercion. And praise God that After lawsuits and a

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Speaker 1: federal warning from the Trump administrations Health and Human Services

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Speaker 1: Massachusetts back down. It changed its rules to require foster

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Speaker 1: parents to support a child's individual identity and needs instead

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Speaker 1: of affirming specific ideological assertions about gender, which, if you

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Speaker 1: ask any expert, is fluid and very unscientific. Sex is

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Speaker 1: very scientific, It's biologically provable. That's a subtle difference in language,

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Speaker 1: but a huge difference in principle because it allows families

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Speaker 1: of faith to now serve without relinquishing their convictions. Yet,

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Speaker 1: even as the ink drives on revised regulation, let's just

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Speaker 1: be clear, the fight is not over. The Alliance Defending

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Speaker 1: Freedom and other legal advocates are rightly cautious their clients.

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Speaker 1: Families like the Marvins and others want to re enter

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Speaker 1: the foster system not as political actors, but as loving

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Speaker 1: homes for kids who have already experienced a lot of instability,

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Speaker 1: and the policy change will only matter if families of

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Speaker 1: faith are actually welcomed back into service, not merely tolerated

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Speaker 1: on paper. This moment has that's the probability of revealing

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Speaker 1: a deeper crisis in our culture. It's a misunderstanding of

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Speaker 1: both what love and liberty look like. Love without truth

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Speaker 1: becomes indulgence, and truth without love becomes tyranny. The Massachusetts

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Speaker 1: policy initially embodied the latter, the tyranny. It treated ideological

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Speaker 1: conformity as a precondition for compassion, But the Bible teaches

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Speaker 1: something radically different. Friend Loving the child does not require

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Speaker 1: surrendering the god given ability to discern right from wrong.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Scripture commands parents and caregivers precisely because they

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Speaker 1: uphold truth as they extend mercy. That balance mercy and

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Speaker 1: truth is central to the Christian worldview' Saw eighty five ten.

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Speaker 1: But if ever there was a group we should welcome,

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Speaker 1: especially those who see children not as clients but his

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Speaker 1: sacred trusts, it is the families like the Marvins. Their

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Speaker 1: example reminds us that service is not just about assistance,

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Speaker 1: it is about sacrifice. In the end, the true measure

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Speaker 1: of a society is how it treats its weakest members,

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Speaker 1: the fatherless, the orphaned, the vulnerable, even the unborn. Government

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Speaker 1: policies should expand the cycle of care, not narrow it

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Speaker 1: by demanding ideological allegiance. The recent reversal Massachusetts is proof

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Speaker 1: that when citizens stand firm, grounded in conviction, and animated

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Speaker 1: by compassion, even entrenched bureaucracies can be changed. As people

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Speaker 1: of faith, I would like to encourage all of us

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Speaker 1: to pray for wisdom and courage for families called to

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Speaker 1: serve in difficult contexts. Let's pray for state leaders to

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Speaker 1: see that religious liberty and child welfare are not opposing goods,

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Speaker 1: but in reality can be complementary. And let's pray for

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Speaker 1: the day when a loving child in truth is never

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Speaker 1: made contingent on abandoning conscience, because children thrive not where

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Speaker 1: ideology is informed, but where love and truth walk hand

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Speaker 1: in hand, just as God created it to occur. Friends,

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Speaker 1: I am very glad to see that even in a dark,

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Speaker 1: dark blue state like Massachusetts, the truth and the light

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Speaker 1: have broken through. And what we need to do is,

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Speaker 1: as we work through these next few months and days

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Speaker 1: and years, is to see that same kind of compassion

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Speaker 1: but conviction breakthrough in lots of other places, because our

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Speaker 1: country needs it sorely. But good for the families of Massachusetts,

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Speaker 1: and good for the Marvins and others that reached out

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Speaker 1: to Alliance Defending Freedom and said, let's not let this die,

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Speaker 1: let's actually contest it. And thank god they've they've been

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Speaker 1: victorious here, all right. Kevin McCullough speaking of parents. Later

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Speaker 1: this hour, Shally Goldberg will be here. It is our

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Speaker 1: Parenting Express day where we focus on one tiny little

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Speaker 1: be back as well, and we've got a lot of

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Speaker 5: Business time.

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, Welcome back. It's that Kevin Show, that kevinshow

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Speaker 1: If I was to read to you a headline, I

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Speaker 1: just just whatever you're doing, stop it and lean into

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Speaker 1: your speaker here for a second. This is what a

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Speaker 1: headline that ran in the Free Press this month says.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this winging it What the gender doctors say

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Speaker 1: in private. Here's the subtitle. In footage obtained exclusively by

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Speaker 1: the Free Press, gender doctors acknowledge they perform life altering

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Speaker 1: procedures on vulnerable youth with no supportive evidence, and they

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Speaker 1: are proud of it. This is a piece by Leo

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Speaker 1: Sapir appearing in the Freepress dot com. We're all just

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Speaker 1: winging it here to discuss from the Independent Women's Forum.

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Speaker 1: Is near a Dishpande who has been with us multiple times,

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Speaker 1: and this is one near to This is one of

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Speaker 1: those things that I think intuitively a lot of parents

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Speaker 1: probably felt maybe there was this kind of nightmare hanging

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Speaker 1: out there. But I was thinking about the parents that

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Speaker 1: actually did allow their children to go through with some

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Speaker 1: of these surgeries. We see this huge movement now of

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Speaker 1: de transitioners, particularly amongst young people. How significant is it

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Speaker 1: that this article puts it in such a crassway.

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Speaker 13: I mean, it's significant in that it is so horrifying, right,

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Speaker 13: like the crassness. I'm really glad to Lere and to

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Speaker 13: the Free Press for publishing that because it just it

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Speaker 13: really just.

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Speaker 5: Shows exactly exactly.

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Speaker 14: What this is and was.

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Speaker 13: It was never really a medical plan. There was never

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Speaker 13: really any medical rationale behind it. It was all ideological.

871
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Speaker 13: It was all just about winging it. And now we

872
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 13: literally have it from w Path, which is the world

873
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 13: you know, sort of transgender health organization that has really

874
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 13: been behind a lot of these horrific changes. And it's

875
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 13: just so it's validating in the sense it's horrifying to

876
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 13: find out that, you know, your worst intuitions have been confirmed.

877
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Speaker 5: And so you think about these parents.

878
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 13: You were asking about these parents, and what I really

879
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 13: think is a lot of these parents were also lied to, right.

880
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 13: The parents were also told, oh, we're medical professionals, this

881
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 13: isn't the best interests of your son, This isn't the

882
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 13: best interests of your daughter.

883
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Speaker 5: A lot of these parents.

884
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Speaker 13: We've published so many stories not only of detransitioners, but

885
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Speaker 13: if their parents, and so many of these parents have

886
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 13: told us, you know, basically, the doctor will be in

887
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 13: the room with them, right, the child, the doctor and

888
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 13: the parent are in the room. The parents a little

889
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 13: bit like, I don't know, this doesn't sound legitimate. These

890
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 13: sound like real intensive, you know, interventions that are not

891
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 13: going to be in the best interest.

892
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Speaker 7: Of my child.

893
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Speaker 13: Let's say it's a son, right, and the song that's

894
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Speaker 13: identifying as a girl. The doctor will look at the

895
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Speaker 13: parents and say, do you want a dead son or

896
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Speaker 13: a live daughter? So if you don't affirm your child

897
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 13: gender identity, right, if you do affirm your child sex,

898
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Speaker 13: and if you don't affirm their gender identity, your child

899
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Speaker 13: is going to kill himself. And that is the level

900
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Speaker 13: of emotional manipulation that they used to justify medical, actual

901
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 13: medical treatments that ultimately harmed and mutilated kids.

902
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Speaker 5: I mean, it is such a travesty near to.

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Speaker 1: The thing that went through my mind. There was a

904
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Speaker 1: lot of news around the Netflix presentation of Frankenstein that

905
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Speaker 1: came out this year, and the the original author of

906
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Speaker 1: that story, because it is a classic story, had some

907
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: very significant themes about trying to play God and trying

908
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: to do things in ways that God never really intended

909
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Speaker 1: for the human body to undergo or to be about.

910
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Speaker 1: And I feel like for the last four years, while

911
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: the Biden team was in office and all of this

912
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: transgender surgery stuff was being pushed like never before, Like

913
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: there were blackmailing schools saying we're going to keep you

914
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: from having breakfast for poor kids if you don't adopt

915
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: these policies. I felt like that we were living in

916
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Speaker 1: like the Frankenstein era, because that's literally what these doctors

917
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: now in this article are basically admitting to we have

918
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: no idea what we're doing. There's no body of evidence

919
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: that says this is necessary, there's no body of evidence

920
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: that says this is even healthy. And even in Europe

921
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: they had already begun to curl back these policies in

922
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Speaker 1: you know, countries that are considered pretty much far left

923
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: leaning than America was. But here we were banging our

924
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: fist on the table saying, no, we're going to do

925
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: this come hell or high water.

926
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's so.

927
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Speaker 13: Fascinating to me that, you know, yes, the Biden admin

928
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Speaker 13: obviously ramped things up and people found this out.

929
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Speaker 3: I think that the.

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Speaker 13: Stories really started coming out during the Biden admin. But

931
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Speaker 13: let me just tell you, I know of stories of

932
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 13: people being transitioned from like like behind their parents' backs

933
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Speaker 13: from when I was in school, right like ten years ago,

934
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Speaker 13: so like from I'm from like just outside Boston, and

935
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Speaker 13: I have myself seen those things. I've seen those cases

936
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Speaker 13: as a teenager, and it's so I mean, one article

937
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 13: I've been meaning to write, and maybe this is the

938
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Speaker 13: maybe I say this publicly so that I'm forced to

939
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Speaker 13: write it. But one article that I've been meaning to

940
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Speaker 13: write that I'm going to write is, you know what

941
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 13: this ideology did to the right of us. You know,

942
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Speaker 13: it's not just that, obviously, I mean the kids who

943
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Speaker 13: it mutilated, the parents who it you know, sort of

944
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 13: manipulated and traumatized, right, those people are the central victims.

945
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Speaker 13: They don't want to take away from that. But I

946
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 13: do think it's crazy that our entire society was reconfigured

947
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Speaker 13: around this madness.

948
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Speaker 1: And that's not an overstatement of that word. Like when

949
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Speaker 1: I make the comparison to Frankenstein, it was it was madness,

950
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: This was craziness, and yet it was being forced upon

951
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: people that people were having to conform to it as

952
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: though it were like truth, and we were driving our

953
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: society insane.

954
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Speaker 5: And it's interesting because it wasn't just okay, it's one thing.

955
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Speaker 13: If it's just the medical centers right doing this and

956
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 13: it's a Tuskegee style medical experiment, and you know, it's

957
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 13: it's horrible, but it's it's a medical thing, like purely

958
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 13: a medical experiment or atomy or whatever.

959
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 10: You know.

960
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Speaker 13: This wasn't just that, though. This was corporations forcing employees

961
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Speaker 13: to put their pronouns and their email signatures right. This

962
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 13: was you know, everybody sort of being forced to attend

963
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 13: HR trainings about about not assuming anyone's gender identity. This

964
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 13: was you know, surveys being given to children in schools

965
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 13: about invasive questions asking asking them, oh, what's your gender identity?

966
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Speaker 13: Do you feel comfortable in your sex? Putting all these

967
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 13: ideas in their heads. This is I mean, it was

968
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Speaker 13: it was Frankenstein's Monster, yes, but it was just so

969
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 13: much bigger than that. It was a it was a big, big,

970
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 13: big societal failure and it still is, right like it's

971
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Speaker 13: still I don't want to, I don't want to completely

972
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 13: put it in the past, but it's like we've made

973
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 13: We've made a lot of significant progress, and I know,

974
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Speaker 13: you know, I mean, the NPR is reporting that Health

975
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 13: and Human Services today is going to make a pretty

976
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 13: big announcement on under so called gender from and care.

977
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 13: So with with Kennedy and doctor Oz sort of a

978
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 13: spearheading this announcement, so there'll be more on that today.

979
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Speaker 5: I would I would keep.

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Speaker 1: An eye I can hope and pray that that moves

981
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: in the direction that it needs to. But at the

982
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the reality is we've

983
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: we we took a four year spin into the crazy

984
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: and it touched everybody and you were, you know, ostracized

985
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: if you didn't agree with it and you didn't go

986
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: along with it, and sometimes worse. I want you to

987
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: go back and touch on something important though, near Judish Pendes,

988
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: who were talking with from the Independent Women's Forum. She's

989
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: a policy analyst there and does a lot on kids

990
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: and education and their health. But you mentioned the work

991
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Speaker 1: of i WF, the Features Division and this identity Crisis

992
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: series that my very good friend Kelsey Bowler kicked off

993
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: several years ago. But you have you have tracked real

994
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Speaker 1: life stories and it wasn't just the medical communities, but

995
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: it was also the judicial systems that got involved and

996
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: actually bullied parents into hurting their own kids.

997
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 13: Yeah. I mean, I think that's that's one of the

998
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 13: most important things to keep in mind, right these parents

999
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 13: And you can read or read and watch our most

1000
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Speaker 13: recent parents stories, which were Kerrie Abernathy and Gareth Amaya Price.

1001
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 13: So I would look at look up those stories on

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Speaker 13: iw features dot Com. That really, as you mentioned, the

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Speaker 13: identity crisis. These are these are in the identity Crisis

1004
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 13: series that that Kelsey started. But what I've seen here,

1005
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 13: I mean is like, like what we've seen with parents

1006
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 13: is that there's just the amount of manipulation, right, the

1007
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 13: amount of flying and the amount of just we're going

1008
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 13: to take your kids away from you. So either they're

1009
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 13: going to be transitioning in some foster system, or they're

1010
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 13: going to be or you're going to transition that right,

1011
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 13: that's an impossible choice that these parents are worst with.

1012
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 13: And they're also also being told, you know, your child

1013
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 13: is going to kill himself if you're in front of

1014
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 13: the child.

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Speaker 1: That's the offensive part. It's one thing if the doctor

1016
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: really thinks that and he says, I need to tell

1017
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: you quietly, but to do it with the kid in

1018
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: the room is just horrific, and that happened in many cases.

1019
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Speaker 1: All right, friends, IW features dot Com. I w like

1020
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Speaker 1: Independent Women Features dot Com and the identity crisis is

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01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: prominently displayed. You can get there through links right there

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Speaker 1: on the homepage IW Features dot Com. You're todis Pende.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for all that you're doing. Thanks for being

1024
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Speaker 1: back with us.

1025
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Speaker 13: Thank you so much for having me.

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01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 5: This was wonderful.

1027
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Speaker 1: You got it. Kevin McCullough, coming back from Times Square.

1028
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: Don't go away.

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Speaker 6: So here he is. It's from New York, Kevin, Kevin mckella.

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Speaker 1: So glad that you're here. Heydaight eight three four two

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01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: ten ten. I'm so thankful that you care the people

1032
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: that listen to my voice. Kevin McCollough out of New York.

1033
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: I know that you care deeply about the world. If

1034
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: you didn't, you wouldn't listen to me. You care about

1035
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: the circumstances that the world is dealing with, all of

1036
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: the news that comes at us and sometimes not knowing

1037
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: what to make of it. And then there's also the

1038
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: news that we never hear about, which is things like

1039
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: human slavery that are still being practiced in northern Sudan

1040
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: and here to discuss this, as Todd Chapman, Todd always

1041
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: appreciates you coming back. Slaves do exist in greater numbers

1042
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 1: than ever before, even after Wilberforce, even after the great

1043
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: abolitionists came and went in the Western world. Much of

1044
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: the rest of the world, particularly in Southeast Asia and

1045
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: on the African continent. You still have tremendous evil being

1046
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: practiced by slavery people that are taking other human beings

1047
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: as their own property. But our friends at Christian Solidarity

1048
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: International they are doing something about that. Explain what this

1049
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: all means, especially to someone like this woman named a Cole.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so we're talking about largely women, but there were

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Speaker 15: men taken captive as well.

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Speaker 1: Back in the most team. Just to be clear, most

1053
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: of the men got killed, Yeah they did. If they

1054
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: if they acted up at all, the slave masters were like,

1055
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: you're not worth the effort, and.

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Speaker 15: You're right about that. Primarily that's the case. There were

1057
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 15: some that you know, did get taken captive. A lot

1058
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 15: of the men that were actually liberating oftentimes were actually

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01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 15: born in slavery, right, they were born to these slave bombs,

1060
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 15: and so now they've grown up in slavery. But bottom line,

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01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 15: these were people that were just taken captives simply because

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Speaker 15: they were Christian. And these Muslim marauders were allowed and empowered,

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01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 15: actually equipped armed oftentimes by the government at that time

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01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 15: to go in and basically do a racial or not

1065
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 15: a racial or religious cleansing if you will, And so

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01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 15: they were taken captive up in what is now North

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Speaker 15: The CSI was actually instrumental in getting that slave taking

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Speaker 15: stopped back when it was going on, working with the

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Speaker 15: UN and the governments there. But they stopped short of

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Speaker 15: saying mandating to the people that had taken these captives,

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01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 15: you know, slaves as slaves. They didn't say you have

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Speaker 15: to release them. They said, yeah, we're not going to

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Speaker 15: do that. Cs I said, okay, well then we'll just

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Speaker 15: trust the Lord and look for a way to do that.

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Speaker 15: So Ever since then, thanks to generous people like you,

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Speaker 15: slaves have been freed every year, and every year we

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Speaker 15: have for about how many years now, ten years, Kevin,

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Speaker 15: been partnering with you and your program, I think a

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Speaker 15: little more than a decade. Yeah, okay, yeah, And every

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Speaker 15: year you step forward, you being the listeners, step forward

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Speaker 15: and free these captives two hundred and fifty dollars. And

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Speaker 15: not only does that negotiate the freedom for one of

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Speaker 15: these slaves, no cash, by the way, ever changes hands.

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Speaker 15: We basically barter a cattle vaccine that these cattle ranchers need,

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Speaker 15: and we set the captive free, bring her back into

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Speaker 15: South Sudan, set her.

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Speaker 8: Up in a whole new life. I'll tell you more

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Speaker 8: about that in a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 15: But I was reading a story here of a young

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Speaker 15: woman now a Cole is her name. But she remembers

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Speaker 15: even though she was a child, she remembers being taken,

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Speaker 15: she was old enough to understand what was happening. She

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Speaker 15: remembers the fear, the terror of strangers coming in a

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Speaker 15: gunpoint and firing guns and burning their home and beating

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Speaker 15: her parents. And then she was taken to the north

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Speaker 15: and forced into a home where she had to sleep

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Speaker 15: on the floor in a tiny storage room. The children

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Speaker 15: of this family they were allowed to beat her at will.

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Speaker 15: I mean, you know, she was no more than just

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Speaker 15: like a you know, a stray dog to them, probably

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Speaker 15: not even that.

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Speaker 8: They called her every.

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Speaker 15: Name, that demeaning name they could, dirty, jingy, dog, donkey, stupid.

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Speaker 15: She worked all the time, carried water, washing clothes, cooking,

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Speaker 15: even though if she was sick she had to work.

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Speaker 15: They didn't care. You know, you think they got her

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Speaker 15: a doctor when she was sick. No, they didn't care.

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01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 15: They were just going to use her up. She was

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01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 15: there to just do what they needed her to do.

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Speaker 15: And then as she grew older, her master began to

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Speaker 15: rape her she ended up having two kids. When she

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Speaker 15: finally did escape from her captivities, she actually was not

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Speaker 15: able to bring her kids with her. Just a heartbreaking situation,

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Speaker 15: but she knew that she was not going to survive

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Speaker 15: very long and she chose to come into freedom. So now,

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Speaker 15: thanks to your generosity, one of our slave retrievers found

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Speaker 15: her at a watering hole brought her back into the South.

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Speaker 15: She's grateful to be free, but you can imagine, as

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Speaker 15: a mom separated from her kids, she's praying that someday

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Speaker 15: her children will be able to be freed and.

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Speaker 8: Returned to her.

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Speaker 15: That's just one story out of hundreds over one hundred

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Speaker 15: thousand stories just like that that we've heard, and there's

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Speaker 15: a lot of common elements in there. But the bottom

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Speaker 15: line is, this is a human being that was taken

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Speaker 15: captive and has been abused in every way possible their

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Speaker 15: entire life, and today you have a beautiful opportunity to

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Speaker 15: set that person free in the name of Jesus.

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Speaker 1: They get a year's worth of sorghum grain that will

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Speaker 1: feed them, They get a year's worth of seed that

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Speaker 1: will plant them, another year's worth of sorghum grain. They

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01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: get all the utensils that they need to cook and

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Speaker 1: garden and clean and fish and all that kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff with. They get blankets and tarps, they get things

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,439
Speaker 1: to help protect them from the weather. And then every

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01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: one of them are given one of these little she

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01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: goats that they get to take, and it's theirs. But

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01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: they have all of this stuff, and CSI gets them relocated,

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01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: and then this is the best part. When they arrive

1140
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: at their final destination. CSI has gone ahead of them

1141
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: and has worked with the local church and the local

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Speaker 1: pastor and the local community of other former slaves, and

1143
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: they throw them a return home party like you've never seen.

1144
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: You've heard about the prodigal son and what the father

1145
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: does for that, that's nothing compared to this. They sing

1146
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: and dance and cook and eat and cheer and clap

1147
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: and cry and praise God. They're allowed to worship the

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01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: God that they knew so many years ago without fear

1149
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: of being killed. And this is their homecoming. This is

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01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: what you give them for that one time gift of

1151
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty dollars. It's don't be don't be

1152
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: anything but generous right now eight eight, eight, three, four

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01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: two ten ten eight eight eight three four two ten ten,

1154
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: or bring her home, dot Org. There is no better

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: celebration that you will get to be part of, even

1156
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: though it's just given a gift than this. Make it happen,

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01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: Make these lives experience that moment of joy. It will

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01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: be the best thing you do this this holiday season.

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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight three four two ten ten eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight three four two ten ten. Bring her home, dot org.

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01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: Let's bring her home, dot Org.

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Speaker 6: Here he is from New York. That Kevin Kevin mckella.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome, it's that Kevin Show. I'm so glad

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01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: to have you with us at that kevinshow dot com

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01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: online streaming. I don't know hundreds of millions of places,

1166
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: but on radios in four hundred and seven New cities.

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01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: And still thankful here in this early stage of the

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01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: show to be able to be with you every single day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. On Thursdays, we have

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01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: a tradition we set aside a portion of the show

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01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: every Thursday to focus on becoming a better parent, and

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01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 1: Shelley Goldberg does that with us. She reported on parenting

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Speaker 1: issues for New York One for many years, and she's

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Speaker 1: been with us for the last decade.

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Speaker 4: I think it.

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Speaker 1: Seems like it's been a lifetime, Shelly, But we've helped

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01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,919
Speaker 1: so many parents, and we are still in that holiday

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Speaker 1: season and there's still more tips for those upcoming big gatherings.

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Speaker 16: Yes, Kevin, as everybody is getting ready to fly someplace

1180
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 16: or drive someplace, there's no question it can be the

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01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 16: most exciting, most wonderful time of year. It is for me.

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01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 16: But there are challenges because many of us have difficult

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 16: and challenging family family situations. Is that a good way

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01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 16: to say, Kevin?

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01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: Sure?

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01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 16: A lot of drama, A lot of drama. So last

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01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 16: week we gave some tips and we talked about strategies.

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01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 16: Basic strategies have an exit plan, mom and dad a

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01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 16: buddy system. So if dad brings up the fact that

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01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 16: you lost your job, you know your brother is there

1191
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 16: to kindly, you know, move dad off the topic onto

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01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 16: something else. I have some conversation starters. That was another

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01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 16: thing that we talked about, and I thought, that's where

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01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 16: I want to go this week because that's a very

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01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 16: powerful place to go. Because this, Kevin, this holiday could

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01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 16: be an absolutely wonderful opportunity to work on your communication

1197
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 16: skills and your observation skills, you can really, you know,

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01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 16: hone in on them and do a great job. Because

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Speaker 16: what's your goal. You're going to two relatives, good friends,

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Speaker 16: and you want to come out on the other end

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 16: emotionally on skill. You want to just get there, have

1202
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 16: a great time, but not feel in these slings and arrows.

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01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 16: As you know Kevin, as a reporter, as an interviewer,

1205
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 16: as a journalist, what works wonderfully is to ask people

1206
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 16: questions about themselves, right, ask great questions. I remember reading

1207
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 16: that Barbara Walters, you know, the famous journalist. She said

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01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 16: that people were always inviting her to parties and always

1209
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 16: thought she was the most wonderful guest. And she said

1210
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 16: her secret weapon, she just got people to talk about themselves.

1211
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,919
Speaker 16: So mom and dad, that's your secret weapon this Christmas.

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01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 16: First thing you have to know your audience. Let's start

1213
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 16: with before we get to the group singles. You know

1214
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 16: you're going to a party and Uncle John is going

1215
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 16: to be there, and he loves fly fishing, and maybe

1216
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 16: you don't have the best relationship with Uncle John. For

1217
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 16: God's sake, ask uncle John about the fly fishing. Give

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01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 16: an ample opportunity to tell you everything he knows, but

1219
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 16: not only that be a learner. Let him teach you.

1220
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 16: People love to teach. Ask him questions. If you've never

1221
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 16: done this before, where should you go Uncle John to

1222
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 16: fly face? Should you go to may? And how much

1223
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 16: should you spend on equipment? So ask him, give him

1224
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 16: the space to talk about what he loved, and then

1225
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 16: give him the space to teach you. If and Susan

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01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 16: loves to cook, do the same thing. Ask her about

1227
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 16: her favorite recipe. You know what's the most difficult thing.

1228
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 16: You know she learned to cook? Did she cook for

1229
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 16: her own kids when they were young? Show your interest

1230
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 16: if you're at someone's house and you don't know them,

1231
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 16: Be a great observer. If you see in the living

1232
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 16: room there's a miniature train set, ask about the train collection.

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Speaker 16: So it's being observant and it's being a great communicator

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Speaker 16: that will get you through right. Here are some great

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Speaker 16: Christmas specific questions. Now you're sitting at a table, Kevin,

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Speaker 16: and here are some things that you can ask. Have

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01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 16: you had a Christmas that changed your life? What is

1238
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 16: the best thing that's happened to you since last Christmas?

1239
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 16: If you could start a charity, what would it be

1240
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 16: If we could all share our Christmas dinner with one

1241
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 16: famous historical figure.

1242
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 5: Who would it be?

1243
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 11: Movies?

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01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 16: People love to talk about their favorite Christmas movies. The

1245
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 16: best gift you've ever received as a kid. If the

1246
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 16: whole family could travel to any place in the world,

1247
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 16: unlimited budget for Christmas, where would you all want to go.

1248
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 8: Next year or ever?

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01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,759
Speaker 16: You can also get people to talk about their favorite

1250
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 16: Christmas songs and then see if they actually know the lyrics. Kevin,

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01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 16: what's worked for you?

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Speaker 1: Well, you've just stolen my biggest secret to all of life,

1253
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: and you've just given it away to everybody. But it

1254
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: is a great secret to give away. And I was

1255
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: first kind of exposed to this thought by my colleague

1256
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: Q Hewitt, who many years ago in a book called

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01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: In but Not Of, healked about young people and how

1258
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: if they wanted to get good at their profession, particularly

1259
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: if they're in the journalism or communications field, would be

1260
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: to turn every conversation into an interview and to learn

1261
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: something new from every person that you have a conversation with,

1262
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: whether it's an uber driver or your gas attendant, or

1263
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, the lady that checks you out at the

1264
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: at the grocery store, or whatever the context is. By

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01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 1: using questions, you can effectively not only disarm, you know,

1266
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: some negative tension a lot of times, but a lot

1267
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: of times you can learn a lot of things. I

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01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: will say this as well, Shelley. This isn't just good

1269
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: at at the holidays. This is how I landed my bride.

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01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: She basically admitted that in the time that we courted,

1271
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: nobody had ever really asked her questions about herself or

1272
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: really had gotten her to open up about the things

1273
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: that she really loved in life. And she liked a

1274
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: lot of things that weren't necessarily matching her age group,

1275
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: like classical music and fine art and architecture and a

1276
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff. But guess who found out about

1277
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: all of that early in the relationship because I applied

1278
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: these very principles. And I will say, if you are

1279
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: really concerned about a tense situation, one of the best

1280
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: things you can do, bar none, is to start asking

1281
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: questions and getting people to open up and to talk.

1282
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: Because when they do, as you said before, a lot

1283
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: of that, a lot of that to tension, a lot

1284
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: of the negative activity, a lot of that just seems

1285
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: to calm down, relax even sometimes go away altogether and

1286
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: I have found that when you ask questions, you also

1287
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: put yourself in a posture that isn't a threatening one

1288
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: to them if you do it the right way. And

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01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: I think that that's just one of those it's a

1290
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: little secret. It seems kind of not very significant, but

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,759
Speaker 1: I will tell you, in my lifetime it has saved

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01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: so many different situations and gone on to benefit my

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01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: life in very, very broad and very significant ways as well.

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01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: So I love this one. This is this is probably

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Speaker 1: the most beneficial tool we have given people in this

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Speaker 1: segment in the entire time we've been doing this.

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Speaker 16: Kevin, I couldn't agree with you more. It's the curious,

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Speaker 16: ask questions, show interest, and I guarantee you will have

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Speaker 16: a fantastic holiday. And it's worked for me in my life,

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Speaker 16: and you talked about how it will work for you

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Speaker 16: and yours. It absolutely changed the trajectory of my life.

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Speaker 16: So yes, that is what I'm recommending to all your

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Speaker 16: listeners for the holiday, Mary Chris.

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Speaker 1: One thousand percent, and to you Shelley, Happy Hanikah and

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas and for those listening, happy holidays whatever you celebrate.

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Speaker 1: Kevin mckelloch coming right back. Don't gole ware.

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Speaker 14: All right, Kevin McFall are welcome that Kevin Show, that

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Speaker 14: Kevinshow dot com for everything you need and we are

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Speaker 14: hopeful that it will be a resource to you as

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Speaker 14: you go through your holiday season.

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Speaker 1: We've got lots of great stuff up there, podcasts, columns,

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Speaker 1: everything that you want related to the show, including our

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Speaker 1: feature how do We Live? And the incredible, incredible series

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Speaker 1: that mister Stone has been involved with us and from

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Speaker 1: John eleven. This week it's just been the perfect I

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Speaker 1: think run up to Christmas week. But I hope that

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Speaker 1: you will check that out. Dave is part of the

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Speaker 1: work at Focus on the Family. He hosts the Pastor

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Speaker 1: to Pastor podcast and he has been a pastor thirty

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Speaker 1: something years on his own, but he has a heart

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Speaker 1: for helping other pastors because we know I've seen the numbers.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the studies pastors are leaving the pastor at

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Speaker 1: a record number in recent years, and we don't want

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Speaker 1: you to be discouraged. We want you to be encouraged,

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Speaker 1: and that's why we want to offer you the helps

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Speaker 1: that we do. So check all that out. That Kevinshow

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Speaker 1: dot com is the easy way to do it, and

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Speaker 1: if you're thinking of folks Us on the Family, and

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Speaker 1: you've appreciated Pastor Dave's time with us, then I would

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Speaker 1: encourage you to make a year in gift to Focus

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Speaker 1: on the Family. They have a matching partner that's coming

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Speaker 1: alongside and matching every gift that comes in right now

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Speaker 1: at Focus on the Family dot com forward slash Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Focus on the Family dot com forward slash Christmas. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you've never used a resource from Focus on the Family,

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Speaker 1: but many, many people, hundreds of thousands, millions literally over

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Speaker 1: the years have been helped through what they do. This

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Speaker 1: year alone, I think five hundred and thirty thousand marriages

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Speaker 1: asked for help in communication with Focus and many times

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Speaker 1: this help is given out for free. Oftentimes there's a

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Speaker 1: small cost for whatever materials are involved, but there is

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Speaker 1: an amazing amount of work that they do to help

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Speaker 1: restore and replenish marriages and you know, tired hearts and

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Speaker 1: hurting homes, and that's what Focus on the Family is

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Speaker 1: all about. So Focus on the Family dot com forward

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Speaker 1: slash Christmas if you would like to be of help.

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Speaker 1: And then I can't stress this enough. Friends, hear stories

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Speaker 1: like we heard in today's show about the women that

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Speaker 1: have been helped through CSI, through the liberating of human slaves. Friends,

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Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to take a human being and

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Speaker 1: take them from literally the pit of a living hell

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Speaker 1: that they are experiencing here on earth, and transport them

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Speaker 1: to a life of community, a life of their own

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Speaker 1: determination and choice, having the ability to speak, having the

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Speaker 1: ability to not expect the slave master to come and

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Speaker 1: rape them at night. I mean, there's an enormous good

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Speaker 1: that it's being done with Christian Solidarity International in liberating

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Speaker 1: slaves in Sudan. And because of your faithfulness in years past,

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Speaker 1: some of you have given every year for the last

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Speaker 1: ten twelve years that I've been doing this. But because

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Speaker 1: of you, over these years, we've been able to liberate

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Speaker 1: five thousand human beings. Think about the number of people

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Speaker 1: that you even know. Can you count five thousand people?

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Speaker 1: And yet we've been able to give fi thousand people

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Speaker 1: brand new lives. Bring her Home dot org is how

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Speaker 1: you do it. Eight eight, eight, three, four, two ten.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred and fifty dollars will cover the restart life

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Speaker 1: cost for one slave and it gives them everything they

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Speaker 1: need grain emergency survival food for a year, kits tarps, blankets,

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Speaker 1: you know, tools to clean and garden and fish and

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Speaker 1: you know, all that stuff with and then also a

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Speaker 1: little she goat that will help them with production of

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Speaker 1: milk and food products but also be able to bear

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Speaker 1: small goats and give them a bit of a micro enterprise,

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Speaker 1: a bit of a means of income as well. And

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Speaker 1: that's all included in the price for two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty dollars for one slave, Would you search your heart

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Speaker 1: and do something right now? CSI has two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty two names when we started this campaign. There's still

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Speaker 1: a little more than one hundred on that list, and

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Speaker 1: we don't want to leave a single one of them behind.

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Speaker 1: So if you're one of these people that has means

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Speaker 1: and you really like to give a big gift at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year that would really matter, Like

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Speaker 1: a twenty five thousand dollars gift would liberate it'll liberate

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Speaker 1: a lot. But you make that gift, it's tax deductible

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Speaker 1: and you will be blessing people as you go. Kevin McCullough,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk

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Speaker 6: To you next time.