1
00:00:38,042 --> 00:00:40,342
Speaker 1: Hey out there to all of our friends from Banter Town,

2
00:00:40,382 --> 00:00:42,942
Speaker 1: this is John. As you've probably heard by now after

3
00:00:42,942 --> 00:00:46,292
Speaker 1: 10 years of Talk About That episodes airing most every week,

4
00:00:46,872 --> 00:00:49,652
Speaker 1: Johnny and I have hit an especially busy season in

5
00:00:49,692 --> 00:00:51,612
Speaker 1: both of our lives that has required us to take

6
00:00:51,672 --> 00:00:54,692
Speaker 1: a little hiatus from weekly episodes. Hey, but fear not.

7
00:00:55,232 --> 00:00:57,672
Speaker 1: We'd still like to bring you some of the best

8
00:00:57,832 --> 00:00:59,732
Speaker 1: of Talk About That. These are some of our most

9
00:00:59,822 --> 00:01:03,362
Speaker 1: downloaded episodes from the past several years. So whether you're

10
00:01:03,392 --> 00:01:07,522
Speaker 1: hearing these conversations again or discovering them for the first time,

11
00:01:07,842 --> 00:01:10,262
Speaker 1: we hope you'll enjoy diving back into some of our

12
00:01:10,342 --> 00:01:13,882
Speaker 1: favorite talks. As always, thanks so much for listening, and

13
00:01:13,922 --> 00:01:15,192
Speaker 1: we hope you enjoy this episode.

14
00:01:18,331 --> 00:01:19,732
Speaker 2: Life Audio.

15
00:01:24,331 --> 00:01:26,422
Speaker 3: Today on Talk About That, John teaches us about the

16
00:01:26,462 --> 00:01:30,282
Speaker 3: history of candy and ponders growing a skullet. Meanwhile, I

17
00:01:30,322 --> 00:01:32,262
Speaker 3: have a senior moment at the movie theater and try

18
00:01:32,301 --> 00:01:34,492
Speaker 3: to find out why Betty Ford danced on a table

19
00:01:34,512 --> 00:01:38,032
Speaker 3: at the White House. Plus, a conversation about how difficulties

20
00:01:38,092 --> 00:01:41,492
Speaker 3: and trials tend to deepen our relationships. Today's episode is

21
00:01:41,532 --> 00:01:44,012
Speaker 3: not sponsored by the stock market, like a casino, but

22
00:01:44,032 --> 00:01:46,612
Speaker 3: without the free drinks. But first, a word from our

23
00:01:46,672 --> 00:01:47,352
Speaker 3: actual sponsor.

24
00:01:57,372 --> 00:01:58,752
Speaker 2: Put those headphones in, guys.

25
00:01:59,612 --> 00:02:02,832
Speaker 1: Sit back and relax and enjoy another episode of Talk

26
00:02:02,852 --> 00:02:04,152
Speaker 1: About That with John and Johnny.

27
00:02:04,292 --> 00:02:05,872
Speaker 3: How would they have heard that first part if they

28
00:02:05,912 --> 00:02:06,992
Speaker 3: didn't have headphones in then?

29
00:02:08,392 --> 00:02:10,031
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Well, you could hear it through

30
00:02:10,072 --> 00:02:11,322
Speaker 2: your phone before you plugged it in.

31
00:02:11,341 --> 00:02:14,722
Speaker 3: I saw a movie last week, by the way, and

32
00:02:14,762 --> 00:02:17,642
Speaker 3: I felt the oldest I've ever felt because it was

33
00:02:17,682 --> 00:02:19,982
Speaker 3: great because I watched this other podcast. I watched this

34
00:02:20,002 --> 00:02:21,981
Speaker 3: podcast sometimes called Food Court that a buddy of mine

35
00:02:22,002 --> 00:02:25,832
Speaker 3: who's a comedian, Sean Parrott, does. And they just review movies. Yeah.

36
00:02:25,852 --> 00:02:27,492
Speaker 3: And I don't go to the movies very much anymore.

37
00:02:27,512 --> 00:02:29,202
Speaker 3: We've talked about this. The kind of movies have become

38
00:02:29,242 --> 00:02:31,882
Speaker 3: kind of a thing. It's a lot of money, and

39
00:02:31,922 --> 00:02:34,682
Speaker 3: it's also just like you stream everything, and your home

40
00:02:34,742 --> 00:02:36,542
Speaker 3: is like your movie theater now. You've got your recliner.

41
00:02:36,562 --> 00:02:38,912
Speaker 3: You've got your stuff. Right. You've got your high-def television.

42
00:02:38,932 --> 00:02:41,972
Speaker 3: You've got your sound system, whatever. So the experience of

43
00:02:42,012 --> 00:02:44,052
Speaker 3: going to the movies is changing. So I go to

44
00:02:44,072 --> 00:02:45,992
Speaker 3: the movies maybe twice a year now, and I was

45
00:02:46,032 --> 00:02:48,232
Speaker 3: a big movie guy. Oh, yeah. But it takes a

46
00:02:48,252 --> 00:02:50,001
Speaker 3: lot to get me to the movies now. But they

47
00:02:50,062 --> 00:02:52,642
Speaker 3: reviewed this movie called Black Bag, which seemed like an

48
00:02:52,942 --> 00:02:56,082
Speaker 3: old-style spy thriller. And I didn't know anything about it

49
00:02:56,122 --> 00:02:57,362
Speaker 3: except for, you've got to go see it. It's got

50
00:02:57,402 --> 00:03:00,621
Speaker 3: a 98% tomato meter or whatever. Go see it. And

51
00:03:00,642 --> 00:03:03,352
Speaker 3: I think who's in it? Michael Fassbender. I can't remember

52
00:03:03,362 --> 00:03:05,092
Speaker 3: who else is in it. But it's basically just this–

53
00:03:05,262 --> 00:03:08,112
Speaker 3: it's a lot of Brits. So I'm sitting in this theater.

54
00:03:08,132 --> 00:03:11,172
Speaker 3: And you know what I'm about to say. I'm sitting there,

55
00:03:11,472 --> 00:03:13,452
Speaker 3: and I'm enjoying it. And it's a very cool movie.

56
00:03:14,612 --> 00:03:17,952
Speaker 3: But I am having to process in real time these accents.

57
00:03:18,632 --> 00:03:20,712
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, where are my captions?

58
00:03:21,372 --> 00:03:23,912
Speaker 1: I am freaking out because I'm like, you know how

59
00:03:23,932 --> 00:03:26,752
Speaker 1: you realize what they said after they get up and

60
00:03:26,792 --> 00:03:26,952
Speaker 1: do it?

61
00:03:26,972 --> 00:03:28,431
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, he said this.

62
00:03:28,852 --> 00:03:32,382
Speaker 1: But now you're already like three scenes. My processor's not

63
00:03:32,412 --> 00:03:33,781
Speaker 1: going as fast because I'm not able to read.

64
00:03:34,022 --> 00:03:34,242
Speaker 2: Right.

65
00:03:34,442 --> 00:03:36,362
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, I wonder if this is going to

66
00:03:36,422 --> 00:03:39,242
Speaker 3: lose even more people. Yeah. Because they're like, I need

67
00:03:39,322 --> 00:03:39,802
Speaker 3: my captions.

68
00:03:39,842 --> 00:03:40,502
Speaker 2: I need my captions.

69
00:03:41,402 --> 00:03:43,902
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes that's just one character will come on. And

70
00:03:43,922 --> 00:03:45,732
Speaker 1: I'm like, we'll turn this on until this character, until

71
00:03:45,752 --> 00:03:46,922
Speaker 1: I get used to this character.

72
00:03:47,102 --> 00:03:47,322
Speaker 3: Right.

73
00:03:47,442 --> 00:03:48,202
Speaker 2: It's like getting into a hot tub.

74
00:03:48,202 --> 00:03:49,032
Speaker 3: Oh, so you give you, okay.

75
00:03:49,192 --> 00:03:50,312
Speaker 2: Like an accent hot tub.

76
00:03:50,652 --> 00:03:50,732
Speaker 1: Yeah.

77
00:03:50,752 --> 00:03:51,832
Speaker 2: And then once you're used to it, you turn it

78
00:03:51,852 --> 00:03:53,452
Speaker 2: back off, and now I know. You know, you gotta

79
00:03:53,472 --> 00:03:54,052
Speaker 2: train yourself.

80
00:03:54,772 --> 00:03:56,752
Speaker 3: That sounds like an app, Accent Hot Tub.

81
00:03:57,752 --> 00:03:59,512
Speaker 2: AccentHotTub.com, not a sponsor.

82
00:03:59,552 --> 00:04:03,272
Speaker 3: Not a sponsor. Could be, though. Yeah. Now, you know what?

83
00:04:03,332 --> 00:04:09,082
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, did you know that Raisinets....

84
00:04:09,572 --> 00:04:09,892
Speaker 3: Sure. Sure.

85
00:04:11,222 --> 00:04:11,722
Speaker 2: Snowcaps.

86
00:04:12,502 --> 00:04:17,442
Speaker 3: Also not a sponsor. Goobers. Are you going to say

87
00:04:17,481 --> 00:04:18,601
Speaker 3: these all have the same ingredients?

88
00:04:18,662 --> 00:04:19,252
Speaker 2: Milk duds.

89
00:04:19,292 --> 00:04:19,812
Speaker 3: No, okay.

90
00:04:19,942 --> 00:04:20,362
Speaker 2: Milk duds.

91
00:04:20,592 --> 00:04:21,132
Speaker 3: Okay.

92
00:04:22,452 --> 00:04:25,891
Speaker 1: These candies that are traditionally what you eat in movie

93
00:04:26,092 --> 00:04:31,311
Speaker 1: theaters were created for movie theater industry.

94
00:04:31,552 --> 00:04:31,732
Speaker 3: Okay.

95
00:04:32,632 --> 00:04:34,772
Speaker 2: They weren't like candies. You can buy them elsewhere.

96
00:04:34,792 --> 00:04:36,872
Speaker 3: You couldn't get a Milk Dud on the street. Right.

97
00:04:37,092 --> 00:04:38,671
Speaker 3: If you did, you wouldn't want to eat it.

98
00:04:38,672 --> 00:04:39,832
Speaker 2: That's true.

99
00:04:39,872 --> 00:04:40,772
Speaker 3: Don't eat a Milk Dud in the street.

100
00:04:40,792 --> 00:04:43,551
Speaker 2: Those contraband Milk Duds, people were dying left and right.

101
00:04:43,892 --> 00:04:46,212
Speaker 3: Or just literally on the street. Don't eat a Street Dud.

102
00:04:46,392 --> 00:04:47,481
Speaker 2: That may not be a Milk Dud.

103
00:04:47,502 --> 00:04:48,351
Speaker 3: That's not a Milk Dud at all.

104
00:04:48,392 --> 00:04:50,002
Speaker 2: If it looks like a Milk Dud and it's on

105
00:04:50,012 --> 00:04:51,332
Speaker 2: the street, don't eat it.

106
00:04:51,382 --> 00:04:52,741
Speaker 3: I'm glad we didn't step in this.

107
00:04:53,241 --> 00:04:55,702
Speaker 1: This sounds like advice that Santa gave to an elf

108
00:04:56,002 --> 00:04:59,262
Speaker 1: before he went to New York City. Anyway, yeah, so

109
00:04:59,882 --> 00:05:04,242
Speaker 1: like popcorn was a thing originally. but it was so messy.

110
00:05:04,842 --> 00:05:05,022
Speaker 3: Yeah.

111
00:05:05,101 --> 00:05:07,442
Speaker 2: It left so much. And, and so these, this is

112
00:05:07,462 --> 00:05:08,782
Speaker 2: what interesting movie theaters.

113
00:05:08,802 --> 00:05:10,362
Speaker 3: People would get dressed up to go to the theater too.

114
00:05:10,382 --> 00:05:12,932
Speaker 3: So they don't want oily stains on there.

115
00:05:13,452 --> 00:05:13,652
Speaker 1: Right.

116
00:05:13,672 --> 00:05:15,572
Speaker 2: Well, have you ever heard of movie palaces?

117
00:05:16,272 --> 00:05:17,541
Speaker 3: Sure. Heard that phrase.

118
00:05:17,601 --> 00:05:20,822
Speaker 1: So at first, these were just kind of like wherever

119
00:05:20,862 --> 00:05:23,022
Speaker 1: you could project. And then they kind of wanted to

120
00:05:23,142 --> 00:05:26,522
Speaker 1: go like Broadway theaters. And so that's why they... There's

121
00:05:26,642 --> 00:05:28,692
Speaker 1: still a couple that exist today that are really famous.

122
00:05:29,332 --> 00:05:32,671
Speaker 1: But they built these elaborate theaters.

123
00:05:32,692 --> 00:05:34,112
Speaker 3: Big chandeliers and the whole thing.

124
00:05:34,132 --> 00:05:36,792
Speaker 2: Yeah, for movie productions and projections.

125
00:05:37,252 --> 00:05:39,012
Speaker 1: And so they didn't want people coming in there all

126
00:05:39,052 --> 00:05:41,592
Speaker 1: dressed up like you're going to Broadway and eating popcorn

127
00:05:41,732 --> 00:05:44,652
Speaker 1: and leaving grease everywhere and butter and all this stuff

128
00:05:44,702 --> 00:05:45,132
Speaker 1: on the floor.

129
00:05:45,582 --> 00:05:45,822
Speaker 3: So.

130
00:05:46,682 --> 00:05:50,262
Speaker 2: They produced these other candies. And so the guys came

131
00:05:50,322 --> 00:05:50,602
Speaker 2: up with it.

132
00:05:50,812 --> 00:05:51,432
Speaker 3: Less mess.

133
00:05:51,472 --> 00:05:55,112
Speaker 1: That's why those candies right now, even to this day,

134
00:05:55,132 --> 00:05:57,632
Speaker 1: you're not, you don't go into a gas station and

135
00:05:57,652 --> 00:05:58,832
Speaker 1: think about getting a, am I going to get a

136
00:05:58,912 --> 00:06:02,072
Speaker 1: Snickers or am I going to get some snow caps?

137
00:06:02,192 --> 00:06:03,752
Speaker 3: Yeah, they feel like a movie theater candy.

138
00:06:03,772 --> 00:06:04,512
Speaker 2: Because they are.

139
00:06:04,532 --> 00:06:06,592
Speaker 3: Yeah. Junior Mints, maybe?

140
00:06:06,812 --> 00:06:08,072
Speaker 2: Sorry, Junior Mints was the other one.

141
00:06:08,202 --> 00:06:09,632
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry to say, I don't think I've ever,

142
00:06:09,962 --> 00:06:11,041
Speaker 3: I think the first time I ever had a Junior

143
00:06:11,062 --> 00:06:11,882
Speaker 3: Mint was in a movie theater.

144
00:06:11,902 --> 00:06:12,881
Speaker 2: And they were all the same company.

145
00:06:13,382 --> 00:06:13,522
Speaker 3: Huh.

146
00:06:13,682 --> 00:06:16,041
Speaker 2: Junior Mints, Goobers. Now, Milk Does was a different company.

147
00:06:16,892 --> 00:06:19,292
Speaker 1: The guy worked for like four years trying to create

148
00:06:19,312 --> 00:06:24,042
Speaker 1: a perfectly spherical milk dud. And you never could because

149
00:06:24,082 --> 00:06:29,462
Speaker 1: the hot chocolate would always melt the caramel on the inside.

150
00:06:30,062 --> 00:06:32,842
Speaker 1: That's why they're called duds. He finally just gave into it.

151
00:06:32,872 --> 00:06:35,392
Speaker 2: Like, I can't. These are just duds. And he just

152
00:06:35,412 --> 00:06:38,101
Speaker 2: gave into it. And here we go. But do you

153
00:06:38,142 --> 00:06:40,801
Speaker 2: think about it? They're not as uniform shaped, any of them.

154
00:06:41,422 --> 00:06:42,101
Speaker 2: They're just chocolate.

155
00:06:42,122 --> 00:06:44,672
Speaker 1: They just threw them into like this tumbler almost. You

156
00:06:44,692 --> 00:06:47,772
Speaker 1: throw it in there and you could chocolate cover almost anything.

157
00:06:47,792 --> 00:06:48,752
Speaker 1: We'll make a chocolate covered peanut.

158
00:06:48,772 --> 00:06:50,772
Speaker 2: There's your goober. We'll make a chocolate covered mint thing.

159
00:06:50,812 --> 00:06:51,192
Speaker 2: There's your.

160
00:06:51,572 --> 00:06:55,522
Speaker 1: So anyway, when you eat that theater candy, it was

161
00:06:55,682 --> 00:06:56,762
Speaker 1: made for that experience.

162
00:06:56,862 --> 00:06:57,202
Speaker 3: Yeah.

163
00:06:57,482 --> 00:06:59,952
Speaker 1: But made to replace popcorn. That's why they're bigger and

164
00:06:59,972 --> 00:07:01,592
Speaker 1: you can eat it long, especially the big caramel things.

165
00:07:01,612 --> 00:07:03,632
Speaker 3: You see these people that throw the sweet snacks into

166
00:07:03,672 --> 00:07:05,741
Speaker 3: the popcorn and just have a grab all because they

167
00:07:05,762 --> 00:07:07,562
Speaker 3: want the sweet and salty together. You ever see people

168
00:07:07,601 --> 00:07:09,562
Speaker 3: do that? No. Throw the Reese's Pieces into the popcorn

169
00:07:09,582 --> 00:07:10,722
Speaker 3: and then they just kind of reach in there.

170
00:07:10,742 --> 00:07:11,482
Speaker 1: No. No?

171
00:07:11,802 --> 00:07:13,462
Speaker 3: Those people are out there. Interesting. It's like the people

172
00:07:13,502 --> 00:07:15,642
Speaker 3: that dip their fries in the Frosty. I'll do that.

173
00:07:15,672 --> 00:07:17,012
Speaker 3: Because they want that salty sweet.

174
00:07:17,132 --> 00:07:17,872
Speaker 2: I could do that all day.

175
00:07:18,032 --> 00:07:18,112
Speaker 3: Yeah.

176
00:07:18,812 --> 00:07:20,612
Speaker 1: Johnny, I've done that all day, and that's why... This

177
00:07:20,632 --> 00:07:21,872
Speaker 1: feels like a food podcast now.

178
00:07:21,892 --> 00:07:22,392
Speaker 3: We've gotten.

179
00:07:22,412 --> 00:07:23,152
Speaker 2: These health issues.

180
00:07:23,492 --> 00:07:24,712
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. We have.

181
00:07:24,972 --> 00:07:27,292
Speaker 1: I will say, you and I have an interesting, both

182
00:07:27,332 --> 00:07:30,652
Speaker 1: of us, interesting food histories. And I don't mean, like,

183
00:07:31,132 --> 00:07:34,472
Speaker 1: just what we've eaten. But I mean, like, there's a

184
00:07:34,512 --> 00:07:37,952
Speaker 1: relationship with food that's complicated here. I'll not talk about that.

185
00:07:38,092 --> 00:07:38,312
Speaker 3: Sure.

186
00:07:38,892 --> 00:07:40,892
Speaker 1: Sometimes we do talk about food. I say every episode

187
00:07:40,912 --> 00:07:43,392
Speaker 1: there's a food segment. We need to create a segment

188
00:07:43,412 --> 00:07:44,232
Speaker 1: just about food.

189
00:07:44,252 --> 00:07:48,702
Speaker 3: Because that's somewhat... Eat about that. Somewhat....

190
00:07:50,182 --> 00:07:52,642
Speaker 1: Someone sent us a message and they wanted me to

191
00:07:52,702 --> 00:07:54,482
Speaker 1: do a new something, a new segment.

192
00:07:54,582 --> 00:07:57,502
Speaker 2: And I realized then, Johnny has two segments.

193
00:07:57,522 --> 00:07:57,982
Speaker 3: Two segments.

194
00:07:58,062 --> 00:07:58,722
Speaker 2: I only have one.

195
00:07:59,382 --> 00:08:00,822
Speaker 3: How many segments do you think we would have if

196
00:08:00,882 --> 00:08:02,612
Speaker 3: I hadn't had the idea to have segments? Because you

197
00:08:02,642 --> 00:08:03,712
Speaker 3: just want to have a free-for-all.

198
00:08:03,832 --> 00:08:06,232
Speaker 2: That is not true. I just didn't think we could

199
00:08:06,252 --> 00:08:07,112
Speaker 2: ever get there.

200
00:08:06,912 --> 00:08:09,312
Speaker 1: And be consistent.

201
00:08:09,492 --> 00:08:11,252
Speaker 3: And who had the foresight to think that we could

202
00:08:11,292 --> 00:08:11,572
Speaker 3: get there?

203
00:08:12,312 --> 00:08:14,912
Speaker 2: Well, it's true. After about three or four or five years,

204
00:08:14,932 --> 00:08:16,052
Speaker 2: you've got.

205
00:08:19,002 --> 00:08:21,182
Speaker 1: Guys, if you want to know the dynamic of Johnny

206
00:08:21,702 --> 00:08:28,532
Speaker 1: and me on this front, Johnny's a dreamer.

207
00:08:29,792 --> 00:08:30,312
Speaker 2: He's a dreamer.

208
00:08:30,712 --> 00:08:30,972
Speaker 3: Am I?

209
00:08:31,252 --> 00:08:32,372
Speaker 2: He shoots for the stars.

210
00:08:32,692 --> 00:08:32,872
Speaker 3: Yeah.

211
00:08:33,511 --> 00:08:35,151
Speaker 2: And I'm also a dreamer.

212
00:08:35,172 --> 00:08:36,992
Speaker 3: I think I just want to find fault with everything

213
00:08:37,052 --> 00:08:39,062
Speaker 3: that you do. I'm a critic.

214
00:08:39,082 --> 00:08:41,281
Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know that you knew it was that real.

215
00:08:41,362 --> 00:08:42,962
Speaker 1: I thought you were just doing it and it feels

216
00:08:43,002 --> 00:08:44,722
Speaker 1: like that to me. But you're telling me, no, I

217
00:08:44,761 --> 00:08:45,402
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing.

218
00:08:45,502 --> 00:08:45,822
Speaker 3: No, I know.

219
00:08:45,962 --> 00:08:47,462
Speaker 2: I want to find fault with everything you do.

220
00:08:47,462 --> 00:08:50,642
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I just do. I find fault.

221
00:08:51,562 --> 00:08:52,702
Speaker 2: This reminds me of something.

222
00:08:53,402 --> 00:08:55,052
Speaker 3: Well, you finished what you were saying, though. Well, that's

223
00:08:55,072 --> 00:08:55,992
Speaker 3: the thing. That I'm a dreamer.

224
00:08:56,082 --> 00:08:57,812
Speaker 2: And so then I'm trying to execute. Some say I'm

225
00:08:57,832 --> 00:08:59,292
Speaker 2: a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I'm trying

226
00:08:59,312 --> 00:09:01,052
Speaker 2: to execute Johnny's dreams.

227
00:09:01,412 --> 00:09:01,552
Speaker 1: Yeah.

228
00:09:02,011 --> 00:09:04,412
Speaker 2: Here on the podcast and I know it takes a

229
00:09:04,452 --> 00:09:05,452
Speaker 2: lot of equipment.

230
00:09:05,092 --> 00:09:07,452
Speaker 3: Not like execute them put them up against.

231
00:09:07,332 --> 00:09:10,271
Speaker 1: That wall and shoot them no I just I think

232
00:09:10,312 --> 00:09:13,161
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good match but it takes time

233
00:09:13,222 --> 00:09:15,382
Speaker 1: like the change right now the office took a long

234
00:09:15,422 --> 00:09:17,742
Speaker 1: time yeah and I'm still not done no but the

235
00:09:17,762 --> 00:09:19,681
Speaker 1: pictures are almost all picked now now it's got to

236
00:09:19,702 --> 00:09:21,242
Speaker 1: get the frames but I don't know if I want

237
00:09:21,262 --> 00:09:22,822
Speaker 1: a bunch of pictures back here so here's what's going

238
00:09:22,842 --> 00:09:23,702
Speaker 1: to happen people.

239
00:09:23,542 --> 00:09:24,742
Speaker 3: I think they need to go on this other wall

240
00:09:24,762 --> 00:09:25,582
Speaker 3: that we don't see.

241
00:09:25,482 --> 00:09:27,181
Speaker 1: Here's what's going to happen people I'm going to put

242
00:09:27,202 --> 00:09:29,502
Speaker 1: the pictures right here where I want them because I'm

243
00:09:29,542 --> 00:09:33,021
Speaker 1: working in here now I'm working people And if it

244
00:09:33,082 --> 00:09:35,062
Speaker 1: doesn't make for a good back shot, we're hanging a curtain,

245
00:09:35,682 --> 00:09:37,982
Speaker 1: a retractable curtain. And I'll just pull the curtain and

246
00:09:38,402 --> 00:09:40,281
Speaker 1: it'll be just like now. It'll be, in fact, it'll

247
00:09:40,302 --> 00:09:42,292
Speaker 1: be better because the light will catch in a black

248
00:09:42,322 --> 00:09:43,992
Speaker 1: curtain better than that wall right there.

249
00:09:44,012 --> 00:09:44,811
Speaker 2: I've already researched it.

250
00:09:46,612 --> 00:09:48,672
Speaker 3: And when the curtain opens and it's like a theater,

251
00:09:48,692 --> 00:09:50,412
Speaker 3: it's like a, it already reaches for those snow caps.

252
00:09:50,492 --> 00:09:53,352
Speaker 3: And someone brings in some milk duds. Snow caps aren't,

253
00:09:53,472 --> 00:09:55,551
Speaker 3: they weren't ever my favorite snow caps.

254
00:09:56,392 --> 00:09:57,232
Speaker 2: No, not snow caps.

255
00:09:57,672 --> 00:10:01,582
Speaker 1: But to this day, junior mints, Actually, my favorite of

256
00:10:01,622 --> 00:10:03,562
Speaker 1: all time still is Raisinets. And that was the one

257
00:10:03,602 --> 00:10:05,422
Speaker 1: in there that they started with. Raisinets.

258
00:10:05,462 --> 00:10:05,862
Speaker 3: Pretty good.

259
00:10:06,502 --> 00:10:07,982
Speaker 2: A guy came in. No one wanted it.

260
00:10:08,052 --> 00:10:09,452
Speaker 1: And he was like shopping because he was a movie

261
00:10:09,472 --> 00:10:10,131
Speaker 1: theater guy.

262
00:10:10,152 --> 00:10:12,352
Speaker 2: He was actually the father of concessions.

263
00:10:13,192 --> 00:10:13,771
Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah.

264
00:10:14,672 --> 00:10:16,612
Speaker 2: So he came up with concessions. Started off in like

265
00:10:16,631 --> 00:10:17,492
Speaker 2: a Broadway thing.

266
00:10:17,512 --> 00:10:20,692
Speaker 1: Started figuring out how he came up with a concession machine.

267
00:10:20,712 --> 00:10:23,492
Speaker 2: Yeah. So they had machines doing automatic.

268
00:10:23,522 --> 00:10:24,482
Speaker 3: Like a vending machine. Yeah.

269
00:10:24,522 --> 00:10:26,502
Speaker 1: They had vending machines for other things, but not for food.

270
00:10:27,172 --> 00:10:28,791
Speaker 1: He started thinking of what kind of food could.

271
00:10:28,682 --> 00:10:32,122
Speaker 2: Last in there. Listen, you know where this is all from.

272
00:10:32,262 --> 00:10:32,862
Speaker 3: I know.

273
00:10:33,622 --> 00:10:36,102
Speaker 1: Food to Built America people. We should get the History

274
00:10:36,122 --> 00:10:38,602
Speaker 1: Channel to become a sponsor. Maybe they will be. We

275
00:10:39,222 --> 00:10:39,982
Speaker 1: don't know what's on that.

276
00:10:40,002 --> 00:10:40,462
Speaker 2: We're kind of.

277
00:10:40,462 --> 00:10:43,972
Speaker 3: A history podcast now more than we were in the beginning.

278
00:10:44,732 --> 00:10:47,631
Speaker 2: I don't want to get you excited. Okay. But that

279
00:10:47,692 --> 00:10:49,572
Speaker 2: project we've been talking about a long time.

280
00:10:49,592 --> 00:10:49,922
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

281
00:10:50,962 --> 00:10:52,942
Speaker 1: I think it's been about two years. I'm waiting on

282
00:10:52,962 --> 00:10:55,962
Speaker 1: the final draft of the final contract to sign.

283
00:10:56,042 --> 00:10:57,802
Speaker 2: And then I'll be writing a new history book.

284
00:10:58,442 --> 00:10:58,622
Speaker 3: Yeah.

285
00:10:58,842 --> 00:11:00,962
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking about, now I don't want to say

286
00:11:01,002 --> 00:11:02,242
Speaker 2: this because if I don't do it, I look like

287
00:11:02,262 --> 00:11:03,862
Speaker 2: a fool, Johnny, a fool.

288
00:11:04,362 --> 00:11:04,552
Speaker 3: Yeah.

289
00:11:04,692 --> 00:11:10,292
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about starting maybe a, a limited series podcast

290
00:11:10,392 --> 00:11:11,232
Speaker 1: about that.

291
00:11:11,131 --> 00:11:13,112
Speaker 2: Topic of the book to go along with it.

292
00:11:13,131 --> 00:11:13,732
Speaker 3: And not including me.

293
00:11:14,672 --> 00:11:16,192
Speaker 2: I don't know if you'd want to be included for this.

294
00:11:16,572 --> 00:11:17,312
Speaker 3: Can I be left out?

295
00:11:17,732 --> 00:11:18,612
Speaker 2: You want to be left out?

296
00:11:18,732 --> 00:11:19,892
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you probably need to get people that

297
00:11:19,912 --> 00:11:22,162
Speaker 3: know about the, I don't know.

298
00:11:22,082 --> 00:11:22,682
Speaker 2: If it's going to.

299
00:11:22,742 --> 00:11:23,402
Speaker 3: Other scholars.

300
00:11:23,672 --> 00:11:25,891
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll be interview-based or if I'll

301
00:11:25,912 --> 00:11:27,702
Speaker 1: just tell the stories, you know, kind of thing.

302
00:11:27,932 --> 00:11:28,122
Speaker 3: Yeah.

303
00:11:28,572 --> 00:11:29,052
Speaker 2: And then.

304
00:11:29,352 --> 00:11:33,172
Speaker 3: I want to do a podcast critiquing that podcast.

305
00:11:33,852 --> 00:11:34,352
Speaker 2: It could be.

306
00:11:34,472 --> 00:11:35,072
Speaker 3: I want to be like a.

307
00:11:35,252 --> 00:11:38,212
Speaker 2: Like the Rise and Fall of John Driver's podcast.

308
00:11:38,272 --> 00:11:39,112
Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah.

309
00:11:39,672 --> 00:11:42,572
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's... By the way, you know the guy that

310
00:11:42,631 --> 00:11:45,452
Speaker 1: did the Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, another really

311
00:11:45,492 --> 00:11:46,631
Speaker 1: famous podcast in our time.

312
00:11:48,352 --> 00:11:52,742
Speaker 2: They have a new one out about... the satanic panic,

313
00:11:52,762 --> 00:11:53,761
Speaker 2: which we talk about a lot here.

314
00:11:53,881 --> 00:11:54,282
Speaker 1: Oh, really?

315
00:11:54,302 --> 00:11:55,542
Speaker 3: They go through the eighties.

316
00:11:55,381 --> 00:11:58,541
Speaker 1: And nineties and all the stuff. I think that I'm

317
00:11:58,562 --> 00:11:59,702
Speaker 1: going to listen to that one. Cause you and I

318
00:11:59,722 --> 00:12:01,122
Speaker 1: have a lot of discussions here about that.

319
00:12:01,592 --> 00:12:04,772
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think moral, moral panics in general are fascinating

320
00:12:04,812 --> 00:12:08,132
Speaker 3: to me because the way they just shape culture and

321
00:12:08,152 --> 00:12:11,532
Speaker 3: then in a way that the ripple effects continue like generationally,

322
00:12:12,052 --> 00:12:14,642
Speaker 3: because now we're kind of back to it. We're kind

323
00:12:14,682 --> 00:12:16,822
Speaker 3: of back. We're seeing it now again in like popular

324
00:12:16,862 --> 00:12:20,322
Speaker 3: culture with like, people thinking that everyone in Hollywood is

325
00:12:20,362 --> 00:12:23,541
Speaker 3: trafficking children or whatever, just because it's like popular to

326
00:12:23,582 --> 00:12:25,782
Speaker 3: say it. Like if you, if you don't like somebody's politics,

327
00:12:25,802 --> 00:12:27,562
Speaker 3: you just go, they're on the Epstein list or whatever

328
00:12:27,582 --> 00:12:29,662
Speaker 3: you want to say. Right. There's no proof. There's nobody

329
00:12:29,722 --> 00:12:31,462
Speaker 3: ever has. It's like, it's just, you can just say it. Uh,

330
00:12:32,612 --> 00:12:35,291
Speaker 3: and you just go, it's a, it's a new moral panic,

331
00:12:35,652 --> 00:12:36,472
Speaker 3: you know? Yeah.

332
00:12:36,532 --> 00:12:41,932
Speaker 1: If, if the country even tried to monitor what is

333
00:12:42,032 --> 00:12:47,922
Speaker 1: libel or slander. Yeah. Like, because the justice system is

334
00:12:48,022 --> 00:12:51,062
Speaker 1: so backed up as it is, you could never keep

335
00:12:51,082 --> 00:12:53,482
Speaker 1: up right now without it. Like you have to be

336
00:12:53,502 --> 00:12:56,682
Speaker 1: a billionaire to be able to actually try to hold

337
00:12:56,722 --> 00:12:57,662
Speaker 1: someone accountable for.

338
00:12:57,682 --> 00:13:00,902
Speaker 3: Which now billionaires are good. Yeah. That's the other thing

339
00:13:00,922 --> 00:13:03,181
Speaker 3: that's happened is like we have billionaires we like and

340
00:13:03,202 --> 00:13:04,082
Speaker 3: billionaires we don't like.

341
00:13:04,842 --> 00:13:08,602
Speaker 2: I've known one billionaire. Okay. And he was amazing.

342
00:13:08,842 --> 00:13:09,862
Speaker 3: Yeah.

343
00:13:10,082 --> 00:13:11,681
Speaker 2: One of the highest character people that I've met. You

344
00:13:12,022 --> 00:13:12,582
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?

345
00:13:12,602 --> 00:13:12,682
Speaker 3: Yeah.

346
00:13:13,122 --> 00:13:14,702
Speaker 2: So it's not always a matter of money.

347
00:13:14,722 --> 00:13:16,042
Speaker 3: But he also paid you a lot of money to

348
00:13:16,062 --> 00:13:18,842
Speaker 3: write a book with him. So are you bought and

349
00:13:18,881 --> 00:13:21,242
Speaker 3: paid for? Are you in on the grift?

350
00:13:21,342 --> 00:13:22,562
Speaker 2: I didn't get paid any more than I get paid

351
00:13:22,582 --> 00:13:23,442
Speaker 2: to write other books.

352
00:13:24,442 --> 00:13:27,012
Speaker 3: How much would I have to pay you? Can we

353
00:13:27,052 --> 00:13:27,811
Speaker 3: talk off air about it?

354
00:13:27,872 --> 00:13:28,752
Speaker 2: A book needs to happen.

355
00:13:29,092 --> 00:13:31,712
Speaker 3: John, this seems like a good time to bring in

356
00:13:31,752 --> 00:13:33,832
Speaker 3: a few of our fine sponsors that help us keep

357
00:13:33,852 --> 00:13:38,612
Speaker 3: the lights on here to talk about that. Podcast.com. Anyway,

358
00:13:38,812 --> 00:13:39,372
Speaker 3: let's hear from them.

359
00:13:49,392 --> 00:13:49,771
Speaker 2: Hey, we're back.

360
00:13:50,012 --> 00:13:52,372
Speaker 3: I went to a movie last night that was an

361
00:13:52,432 --> 00:13:55,452
Speaker 3: older movie. They're doing a retrospective at the local art house,

362
00:13:55,472 --> 00:13:57,122
Speaker 3: which is the Belcourt. You ever go to the Belcourt?

363
00:13:57,262 --> 00:13:57,942
Speaker 2: I've been to the Belcourt.

364
00:13:57,962 --> 00:14:00,722
Speaker 3: So the Belcourt's doing a series of films based on

365
00:14:01,202 --> 00:14:03,442
Speaker 3: what they call the Saturday Night Live universe. So if

366
00:14:03,462 --> 00:14:05,682
Speaker 3: you were ever on Saturday Night Live or a contributor

367
00:14:05,842 --> 00:14:08,342
Speaker 3: and then you did a movie or Lorne Michaels produced

368
00:14:08,362 --> 00:14:11,442
Speaker 3: or not, they kind of are doing this a month

369
00:14:11,502 --> 00:14:14,042
Speaker 3: long series. And so they did one with– because Christopher

370
00:14:14,082 --> 00:14:15,922
Speaker 3: Guest was one of my favorites from the 80s. He

371
00:14:15,962 --> 00:14:17,822
Speaker 3: was only on there a couple of seasons, but he

372
00:14:17,862 --> 00:14:20,792
Speaker 3: went on to produce all these what you call mockumentaries. Yeah.

373
00:14:21,332 --> 00:14:23,012
Speaker 3: He was in Spinal Tap. That was not his. A

374
00:14:23,012 --> 00:14:24,332
Speaker 3: lot of people think that that was the first one,

375
00:14:24,352 --> 00:14:26,652
Speaker 3: but actually that was a Rob Reiner production. Right. But

376
00:14:26,692 --> 00:14:29,562
Speaker 3: then he went on to make things like Waiting for Guffman,

377
00:14:29,572 --> 00:14:32,442
Speaker 3: which was about local theater. And then he did Best

378
00:14:32,482 --> 00:14:35,242
Speaker 3: in Show, which is about dog show people. My favorite

379
00:14:35,282 --> 00:14:38,432
Speaker 3: is A Mighty Wind, which is about folk music. And

380
00:14:38,472 --> 00:14:40,052
Speaker 3: so they were showing it at the bell court and

381
00:14:40,072 --> 00:14:42,472
Speaker 3: we went last night. But anyway, the trailers they showed,

382
00:14:43,362 --> 00:14:46,502
Speaker 3: some of them were for old movies that were out.

383
00:14:47,382 --> 00:14:49,562
Speaker 3: They were part of the other Saturday Night Live universe.

384
00:14:49,582 --> 00:14:50,982
Speaker 3: And one of them was for, they showed the original

385
00:14:51,002 --> 00:14:53,562
Speaker 3: trailer for Wayne's World. And I, it was such a

386
00:14:53,662 --> 00:14:57,282
Speaker 3: weird trip to see. First of all, just how movie

387
00:14:57,322 --> 00:15:01,192
Speaker 3: trailers were presented back then versus now, uh, was such

388
00:15:01,212 --> 00:15:03,392
Speaker 3: a difference in the nineties. And so that was kind

389
00:15:03,412 --> 00:15:06,502
Speaker 3: of a trip. But, uh, It was funny because the

390
00:15:06,542 --> 00:15:09,022
Speaker 3: theater was pretty full. It was like two-thirds full. And

391
00:15:09,042 --> 00:15:11,362
Speaker 3: it was interesting to see people laugh, knowing the jokes.

392
00:15:11,572 --> 00:15:14,332
Speaker 3: We know the jokes, but they've become part of our culture.

393
00:15:15,772 --> 00:15:17,272
Speaker 3: So that was kind of cool, though. But yeah, that

394
00:15:17,292 --> 00:15:20,772
Speaker 3: was a wild one, seeing Wayne's World and that whole,

395
00:15:21,032 --> 00:15:26,892
Speaker 3: I don't know, watching that influence on the universe from

396
00:15:27,072 --> 00:15:30,202
Speaker 3: such a silly film. But I don't know. But I'm

397
00:15:30,252 --> 00:15:32,062
Speaker 3: a big fan of A Mighty Wind. That's one of

398
00:15:32,082 --> 00:15:35,342
Speaker 3: those ones, not a sponsor, but And not a ringing endorsement.

399
00:15:35,392 --> 00:15:37,592
Speaker 3: I can't endorse everything in the movie. But I just

400
00:15:37,632 --> 00:15:41,972
Speaker 3: like the idea that you make a universe of characters

401
00:15:42,412 --> 00:15:45,092
Speaker 3: and bands that did not exist. You have to write

402
00:15:45,112 --> 00:15:47,702
Speaker 3: their backstory. You have to write a music catalog for

403
00:15:47,732 --> 00:15:52,422
Speaker 3: that group. So you have to be real musicians to

404
00:15:52,462 --> 00:15:55,682
Speaker 3: do it. And these songs never existed, but they have

405
00:15:55,702 --> 00:15:58,202
Speaker 3: to fit in popular culture in this time frame that

406
00:15:58,242 --> 00:16:01,502
Speaker 3: they supposedly existed. And so I like that so much

407
00:16:01,702 --> 00:16:04,882
Speaker 3: that they take all that care And that's why I

408
00:16:04,922 --> 00:16:07,722
Speaker 3: love that. And actually, one of those songs was nominated

409
00:16:07,762 --> 00:16:11,062
Speaker 3: for Best Original Song at the Oscars that year. It's

410
00:16:11,102 --> 00:16:12,422
Speaker 3: a song called Kiss at the End of the Rainbow

411
00:16:12,442 --> 00:16:14,442
Speaker 3: that they wrote for Mitch and Mickey, who are this

412
00:16:14,942 --> 00:16:17,902
Speaker 3: folk duo that's like the star-crossed lovers.

413
00:16:18,382 --> 00:16:19,181
Speaker 2: Wow.

414
00:16:19,342 --> 00:16:21,792
Speaker 3: You know, the male and female duo. And then, so

415
00:16:21,812 --> 00:16:23,312
Speaker 3: they wrote this Kiss at the End of the Rainbow song.

416
00:16:23,492 --> 00:16:26,292
Speaker 3: And Michael McKeon and then Ned O'Toole, his wife, they

417
00:16:26,312 --> 00:16:28,792
Speaker 3: wrote that song. And it was nominated for Best Song

418
00:16:28,812 --> 00:16:30,712
Speaker 3: at the Oscars that year. And it's a made up

419
00:16:30,772 --> 00:16:33,212
Speaker 3: song for a made up group. I think that's so great.

420
00:16:33,232 --> 00:16:33,752
Speaker 3: What a cool.

421
00:16:33,992 --> 00:16:35,452
Speaker 2: Isn't that kind of how the monkeys were, though?

422
00:16:35,662 --> 00:16:36,202
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

423
00:16:36,422 --> 00:16:38,802
Speaker 3: They were cast as like a they watch these people

424
00:16:38,842 --> 00:16:42,022
Speaker 3: watch Hard Day's Night. And they were like, we got

425
00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:44,622
Speaker 3: to get in on this because the Beatles were such

426
00:16:44,662 --> 00:16:46,662
Speaker 3: a phenomenon. And so they literally just like put out

427
00:16:46,682 --> 00:16:49,432
Speaker 3: a casting call and spread this whole net and like

428
00:16:49,492 --> 00:16:50,752
Speaker 3: found these good looking guys.

429
00:16:51,412 --> 00:16:52,672
Speaker 2: And talented guys.

430
00:16:52,732 --> 00:16:55,252
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then they just became a thing. But they

431
00:16:55,272 --> 00:16:57,572
Speaker 3: were basically trying to be a TV version of the Beatles.

432
00:16:58,822 --> 00:17:01,722
Speaker 1: That's what gets me, is how people were okay with

433
00:17:01,762 --> 00:17:05,382
Speaker 1: the idea. It's like it wasn't hacky. Or maybe they

434
00:17:05,402 --> 00:17:05,942
Speaker 1: thought it was hacky.

435
00:17:05,962 --> 00:17:09,452
Speaker 3: No, no. People were... Yeah, people really... They had a

436
00:17:09,492 --> 00:17:11,412
Speaker 3: lot of strikes against them going out of the box.

437
00:17:11,472 --> 00:17:12,952
Speaker 3: It's just they kind of won over a lot of

438
00:17:12,992 --> 00:17:13,492
Speaker 3: other people.

439
00:17:14,232 --> 00:17:17,821
Speaker 2: Well, and that's probably... You just outlast your critics. I'm

440
00:17:17,842 --> 00:17:18,922
Speaker 2: a little kid back then, right?

441
00:17:19,042 --> 00:17:19,242
Speaker 3: Right.

442
00:17:19,262 --> 00:17:20,202
Speaker 2: So I don't know what's happening.

443
00:17:20,282 --> 00:17:20,601
Speaker 1: No, no.

444
00:17:20,642 --> 00:17:22,962
Speaker 3: This was, yeah, this would have been, we probably saw

445
00:17:23,002 --> 00:17:23,682
Speaker 3: it in syndication.

446
00:17:23,702 --> 00:17:25,882
Speaker 1: Right. We're seeing a syndication and you think, yeah, so

447
00:17:25,922 --> 00:17:29,452
Speaker 1: you don't know that this has been, someone's been very.

448
00:17:29,342 --> 00:17:31,512
Speaker 2: Critical of this, right? All you know is the gags

449
00:17:31,572 --> 00:17:31,752
Speaker 2: and the.

450
00:17:32,331 --> 00:17:33,571
Speaker 3: I think there's something to be said for a kind

451
00:17:33,592 --> 00:17:35,872
Speaker 3: of just outlasting your critics. If you go make something,

452
00:17:36,272 --> 00:17:38,571
Speaker 3: even if it started in one thing, like eventually they

453
00:17:38,612 --> 00:17:41,402
Speaker 3: did write some great songs. So it's not, not a

454
00:17:41,402 --> 00:17:43,262
Speaker 3: matter of like, they weren't, you.

455
00:17:43,161 --> 00:17:45,282
Speaker 2: Can't, you can't listen. You can't deny a great song.

456
00:17:45,322 --> 00:17:48,982
Speaker 2: Great songs, a great song. Like Johnny achy, break your heart.

457
00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:50,962
Speaker 3: Listen, it outlasted.

458
00:17:51,022 --> 00:17:53,022
Speaker 2: It's, I actually didn't like it when.

459
00:17:52,962 --> 00:17:54,952
Speaker 3: It came out. It's coming back in a big way.

460
00:17:55,232 --> 00:17:56,491
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't do it.

461
00:17:56,552 --> 00:17:57,532
Speaker 3: It's around here, bro.

462
00:17:58,431 --> 00:18:01,412
Speaker 2: I see boys in Sadie's generation.

463
00:18:01,831 --> 00:18:03,391
Speaker 3: I think you're a little jealous. Cause you, I mean,

464
00:18:03,431 --> 00:18:04,131
Speaker 3: you could have a moment.

465
00:18:04,172 --> 00:18:05,412
Speaker 2: I could do a mullet still.

466
00:18:05,512 --> 00:18:06,012
Speaker 1: Wow.

467
00:18:06,121 --> 00:18:08,582
Speaker 3: The skullet. That's what that's called. Wow. You have no,

468
00:18:08,922 --> 00:18:10,121
Speaker 3: you have nothing on top and you've got the.

469
00:18:10,472 --> 00:18:14,851
Speaker 1: What would happen if I went and got treatments and

470
00:18:14,911 --> 00:18:17,652
Speaker 1: had my hair back at this point after now being

471
00:18:17,712 --> 00:18:18,932
Speaker 1: bald for like five years?

472
00:18:19,252 --> 00:18:22,182
Speaker 3: I don't know. People do it in Hollywood. I mean,

473
00:18:22,342 --> 00:18:24,462
Speaker 3: Jeremy Piven, there's a few people that have done it

474
00:18:24,522 --> 00:18:26,622
Speaker 3: and they just go, look. Theo Vaughn, who's a pretty

475
00:18:26,641 --> 00:18:30,482
Speaker 3: famous comedian, he talks about having hair transplant. I don't

476
00:18:30,502 --> 00:18:32,121
Speaker 3: think I could do transplant, but I could do some

477
00:18:32,161 --> 00:18:35,212
Speaker 3: of those treatments. Although when I hear the radio thing,

478
00:18:35,252 --> 00:18:37,742
Speaker 3: it's like, all i have to do it's every day

479
00:18:37,782 --> 00:18:39,262
Speaker 3: right you can't stop.

480
00:18:39,061 --> 00:18:42,352
Speaker 1: Drive during my lunch break to another location for 45

481
00:18:42,351 --> 00:18:44,792
Speaker 1: minutes like what i'm not yeah i'd rather i thought

482
00:18:44,811 --> 00:18:46,491
Speaker 1: that was transplants by the way i was in the

483
00:18:46,512 --> 00:18:49,532
Speaker 1: dentist today and i almost said your joke almost because

484
00:18:49,552 --> 00:18:53,071
Speaker 1: she she's like i've seen she's like okay your daughter

485
00:18:53,092 --> 00:18:56,212
Speaker 1: plays volleyball right it's like yeah she's like i saw

486
00:18:56,252 --> 00:18:58,621
Speaker 1: you some i saw a picture of you somewhere on

487
00:18:58,702 --> 00:19:00,642
Speaker 1: something you know.

488
00:19:01,042 --> 00:19:03,432
Speaker 2: And of course i was like well Pretty big deal.

489
00:19:03,992 --> 00:19:05,851
Speaker 2: I'm all over the place. I was like, I don't know.

490
00:19:05,871 --> 00:19:07,372
Speaker 2: I was like, I do, you know, I'm a pastor

491
00:19:07,431 --> 00:19:09,912
Speaker 2: and I, I, I, you know, right. And he might've

492
00:19:09,931 --> 00:19:10,472
Speaker 2: seen a book.

493
00:19:10,492 --> 00:19:13,311
Speaker 1: So there are probably podcasts though on a, something podcast

494
00:19:13,351 --> 00:19:16,492
Speaker 1: related on, on lines where we post the most right now. But,

495
00:19:16,732 --> 00:19:19,601
Speaker 1: but as she was flossing me, I've wanted to say,

496
00:19:19,752 --> 00:19:22,882
Speaker 1: you know, my buddy says he would not like, if

497
00:19:22,922 --> 00:19:26,222
Speaker 1: it added five years to his life, he still would

498
00:19:26,262 --> 00:19:28,141
Speaker 1: not floss. Cause I'm not going to do it at

499
00:19:28,161 --> 00:19:29,322
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah.

500
00:19:29,342 --> 00:19:31,542
Speaker 3: Cause you have to spend that five years flossing. Right.

501
00:19:31,561 --> 00:19:31,661
Speaker 1: Right.

502
00:19:32,172 --> 00:19:32,871
Speaker 2: You're not going to do it.

503
00:19:33,252 --> 00:19:35,351
Speaker 3: Yeah. You just added five more years of flossing to

504
00:19:35,391 --> 00:19:35,692
Speaker 3: my life.

505
00:19:36,792 --> 00:19:37,012
Speaker 1: Yeah.

506
00:19:38,032 --> 00:19:39,752
Speaker 2: Johnny, I think it's about that time. Oh, is it?

507
00:19:40,292 --> 00:19:42,412
Speaker 3: Speaking of pearls of wisdom.

508
00:19:43,272 --> 00:19:44,712
Speaker 2: It's my one segment.

509
00:19:45,252 --> 00:19:45,752
Speaker 3: Okay.

510
00:19:45,811 --> 00:19:47,952
Speaker 2: Let me call it They Talked About That.

511
00:19:48,632 --> 00:20:01,282
Speaker 3: Let's make it count. I'm pretty good about that one.

512
00:20:02,132 --> 00:20:03,392
Speaker 3: I just needed to open my mouth more.

513
00:20:04,831 --> 00:20:07,252
Speaker 2: All these years as a singer, that's all. We could

514
00:20:07,292 --> 00:20:12,212
Speaker 2: have had a deal. Well, let's make a deal.

515
00:20:12,972 --> 00:20:22,371
Speaker 1: James Thurber, born 1894, died 1961, American cartoonist, writer, humorist, journalist,

516
00:20:23,012 --> 00:20:27,652
Speaker 1: and playwright. Best known for cartoons and short stories. He said,

517
00:20:28,851 --> 00:20:31,672
Speaker 1: love is what you've been through with somebody.

518
00:20:33,592 --> 00:20:33,891
Speaker 3: That's it.

519
00:20:35,391 --> 00:20:38,192
Speaker 1: Love is what you've been through with somebody. And I

520
00:20:38,212 --> 00:20:40,772
Speaker 1: was thinking about that. I actually read a quote this morning,

521
00:20:40,882 --> 00:20:44,481
Speaker 1: but if I keep quoting C.S. Lewis and Dallas Willard

522
00:20:44,681 --> 00:20:46,982
Speaker 1: and G.K. Chesterton every week, you know what I'm saying?

523
00:20:47,002 --> 00:20:51,772
Speaker 1: But It was talking about the balance. It was the

524
00:20:51,851 --> 00:20:56,832
Speaker 1: balances between, it was Alice Willard, the pleasure and pains

525
00:20:56,851 --> 00:20:59,642
Speaker 1: of life. And if you took one away, life would

526
00:20:59,681 --> 00:21:03,561
Speaker 1: cease to exist as we know it. But the idea

527
00:21:04,141 --> 00:21:07,722
Speaker 1: of love being what you feel for somebody versus love

528
00:21:08,101 --> 00:21:11,301
Speaker 1: being what you've been through with somebody. And of course,

529
00:21:11,342 --> 00:21:13,321
Speaker 1: that's the language of the loyalist, right?

530
00:21:15,181 --> 00:21:18,152
Speaker 2: I can remember... And you and I were in the

531
00:21:18,192 --> 00:21:20,232
Speaker 2: band at this point. In fact, I had orange hair.

532
00:21:20,772 --> 00:21:20,932
Speaker 3: Yeah.

533
00:21:21,172 --> 00:21:22,552
Speaker 2: At the time. Not on purpose.

534
00:21:22,811 --> 00:21:23,912
Speaker 3: No, you're trying to go blonde.

535
00:21:24,612 --> 00:21:25,892
Speaker 2: Well, I did go blonde.

536
00:21:25,972 --> 00:21:26,192
Speaker 3: Yeah.

537
00:21:26,772 --> 00:21:27,752
Speaker 2: Laura, I think.

538
00:21:27,811 --> 00:21:29,472
Speaker 3: Oh, and then you tried to get it to go back.

539
00:21:29,552 --> 00:21:32,132
Speaker 1: And we wanted to go back and go Auburn. Like

540
00:21:32,172 --> 00:21:34,892
Speaker 1: back to brown Auburn. But instead it turned into like

541
00:21:35,012 --> 00:21:35,751
Speaker 1: real Auburn.

542
00:21:35,851 --> 00:21:36,592
Speaker 2: Like the orange Auburn.

543
00:21:36,612 --> 00:21:37,392
Speaker 3: Like Auburn Tigers.

544
00:21:37,512 --> 00:21:40,132
Speaker 2: And then we're like, you can't, right. You can't do

545
00:21:40,172 --> 00:21:41,592
Speaker 2: anything else to it for a while. Your hair's going

546
00:21:41,612 --> 00:21:43,411
Speaker 2: to fall out. So I just had orange hair on

547
00:21:43,472 --> 00:21:44,081
Speaker 2: UT campus.

548
00:21:44,422 --> 00:21:47,122
Speaker 3: Do you think that's why your hair fell out? Oh, no.

549
00:21:47,121 --> 00:21:47,902
Speaker 3: 10 years later?

550
00:21:47,922 --> 00:21:51,152
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But I remember I got the

551
00:21:51,192 --> 00:21:51,781
Speaker 2: phone call.

552
00:21:52,252 --> 00:21:54,872
Speaker 1: If you guys have never heard the story, when Laura

553
00:21:54,891 --> 00:21:57,772
Speaker 1: was in nursing school, my wife, we were just engaged.

554
00:21:58,652 --> 00:22:01,711
Speaker 1: And we kind of had a running joke that everything

555
00:22:01,752 --> 00:22:03,931
Speaker 1: that she would study, if you really pay attention to

556
00:22:03,992 --> 00:22:07,071
Speaker 1: it long enough, you have like, of the 10 symptoms,

557
00:22:07,092 --> 00:22:09,352
Speaker 1: you probably have three or four right now. Every nursing

558
00:22:09,371 --> 00:22:11,392
Speaker 1: school student becomes a hypochondriac. It's like, oh my gosh,

559
00:22:11,492 --> 00:22:13,611
Speaker 1: I actually, my back hurts like that, you know, whatever.

560
00:22:13,632 --> 00:22:13,772
Speaker 3: Right.

561
00:22:14,422 --> 00:22:16,102
Speaker 1: And so she called me one day. She goes, John,

562
00:22:16,141 --> 00:22:18,482
Speaker 1: I think I've had a brain aneurysm. And of course,

563
00:22:18,502 --> 00:22:19,862
Speaker 1: I have no idea what a brain aneurysm is.

564
00:22:20,742 --> 00:22:23,061
Speaker 2: I'm 19 or whatever. I'm like, no, you don't. That

565
00:22:23,121 --> 00:22:24,052
Speaker 2: sounds really, I've heard it.

566
00:22:24,101 --> 00:22:25,432
Speaker 3: It sounds really bad. You've got a headache.

567
00:22:25,652 --> 00:22:26,081
Speaker 2: Don't do it.

568
00:22:27,072 --> 00:22:29,372
Speaker 1: And so it turns out, long story short, she was right.

569
00:22:29,391 --> 00:22:29,911
Speaker 3: Yeah.

570
00:22:30,212 --> 00:22:31,472
Speaker 2: And they rushed her to the hospital.

571
00:22:32,292 --> 00:22:36,212
Speaker 1: And the bleeding on her brain was so bad that

572
00:22:36,552 --> 00:22:40,292
Speaker 1: the scans in her room showed when the doctor came in,

573
00:22:40,302 --> 00:22:41,521
Speaker 1: he thought it was a dead person.

574
00:22:41,581 --> 00:22:42,561
Speaker 3: It was all white.

575
00:22:42,581 --> 00:22:43,902
Speaker 2: There was someone that.

576
00:22:43,681 --> 00:22:45,482
Speaker 1: Died and they left these scans in here and it

577
00:22:45,502 --> 00:22:47,522
Speaker 1: was hers. And he was like, how are you talking

578
00:22:47,561 --> 00:22:51,161
Speaker 1: and walking? And she's had the worst headache of her life. And, um,

579
00:22:51,462 --> 00:22:54,242
Speaker 1: I got in my car in Knoxville and did 110.

580
00:22:54,242 --> 00:22:55,882
Speaker 1: I made it from Knoxville to Nashville in an hour

581
00:22:55,902 --> 00:22:57,681
Speaker 1: and a half, which is normally a two and a

582
00:22:57,681 --> 00:23:01,002
Speaker 1: half to three hour drive and got there.

583
00:23:01,042 --> 00:23:02,502
Speaker 2: Not knowing she's going to be alive or dead.

584
00:23:02,522 --> 00:23:04,732
Speaker 1: This is before I had a cell phone, but not,

585
00:23:05,742 --> 00:23:07,282
Speaker 1: it's not like you're texting or something, you know what

586
00:23:07,302 --> 00:23:08,922
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like you don't really know, you know, you

587
00:23:08,942 --> 00:23:11,152
Speaker 1: don't want to be texting and driving 110 anyway, Johnny,

588
00:23:11,192 --> 00:23:13,792
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. But all that being said,

589
00:23:13,891 --> 00:23:15,111
Speaker 1: we went through a whole journey.

590
00:23:15,132 --> 00:23:18,151
Speaker 2: It was just miraculous. Um, the stories I could tell,

591
00:23:18,331 --> 00:23:20,452
Speaker 2: she had three brain surgeries. They were non-invasive.

592
00:23:20,492 --> 00:23:23,461
Speaker 1: It was a new technique going through the arteries. Uh,

593
00:23:23,552 --> 00:23:26,431
Speaker 1: to this day, she has platinum in her brain. Um,

594
00:23:26,871 --> 00:23:31,351
Speaker 1: that basically, yeah, basically plugged up her aneurysm. Uh, and

595
00:23:31,391 --> 00:23:34,582
Speaker 1: it was caused by an AVM, which is an arteriovenous malformation,

596
00:23:34,601 --> 00:23:37,722
Speaker 1: which is a, A thing you get when you're born,

597
00:23:37,742 --> 00:23:38,962
Speaker 1: or you have it when you're born, and it doesn't

598
00:23:39,002 --> 00:23:40,142
Speaker 1: usually show up to the decade of life.

599
00:23:40,181 --> 00:23:41,582
Speaker 2: And usually when you die, that's when.

600
00:23:41,482 --> 00:23:43,222
Speaker 3: It shows up. Yeah, that's when they realize you had it. Right.

601
00:23:43,262 --> 00:23:44,842
Speaker 3: You finally have an aneurysm and it kills you.

602
00:23:45,081 --> 00:23:45,282
Speaker 2: Yeah.

603
00:23:45,641 --> 00:23:49,701
Speaker 1: And so through that journey, when she came out, she

604
00:23:49,722 --> 00:23:52,462
Speaker 1: had radiation, the whole deal. When she came out of that,

605
00:23:52,632 --> 00:23:55,251
Speaker 1: we weren't married yet, but we had been through something.

606
00:23:56,592 --> 00:23:59,351
Speaker 1: And I will never forget this. And I'm telling you

607
00:23:59,371 --> 00:24:02,732
Speaker 1: as a dad, this breaks my heart still. My father-in-law

608
00:24:02,811 --> 00:24:04,131
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite people in the world.

609
00:24:04,152 --> 00:24:08,542
Speaker 2: We've become... I think much closer over the years. He's

610
00:24:08,561 --> 00:24:08,982
Speaker 2: just great.

611
00:24:09,902 --> 00:24:13,082
Speaker 1: And she woke up from her first surgery and asked

612
00:24:13,101 --> 00:24:17,421
Speaker 1: for me. And he said, I guess there's.

613
00:24:17,282 --> 00:24:20,522
Speaker 2: Another man in her life now. And I didn't really

614
00:24:20,542 --> 00:24:23,982
Speaker 2: put it together then. I was just happy to be

615
00:24:24,002 --> 00:24:27,392
Speaker 2: the man. And now I would punch a dude. You

616
00:24:27,411 --> 00:24:29,271
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Like as a dad.

617
00:24:29,512 --> 00:24:32,052
Speaker 3: Sadie comes out of brain surgery and asks for some guy,

618
00:24:32,092 --> 00:24:34,431
Speaker 3: you'd be like, I will destroy him.

619
00:24:34,472 --> 00:24:37,492
Speaker 1: Yeah. And like, again, she's on his insurance. I mean,

620
00:24:37,512 --> 00:24:39,621
Speaker 1: you get into all that stuff, but he didn't do

621
00:24:39,641 --> 00:24:40,062
Speaker 1: that to me.

622
00:24:40,081 --> 00:24:40,542
Speaker 2: Yeah.

623
00:24:40,962 --> 00:24:43,282
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, oh my gosh, all the things

624
00:24:43,342 --> 00:24:46,442
Speaker 1: now I would, I mean, I would just clock a dude. Um,

625
00:24:48,522 --> 00:24:51,742
Speaker 1: but I, I think about after that, before we ever

626
00:24:51,762 --> 00:24:53,752
Speaker 1: got married, we felt like we were married because we've

627
00:24:53,792 --> 00:24:57,492
Speaker 1: been through something. And I think it advanced our relationship

628
00:24:57,532 --> 00:24:58,972
Speaker 1: and marriage by like five years.

629
00:24:59,331 --> 00:24:59,512
Speaker 3: Right.

630
00:24:59,831 --> 00:25:02,332
Speaker 1: When we got married, it was like, when you face mortality,

631
00:25:02,712 --> 00:25:06,322
Speaker 1: I think James Thurber's right. Like, and even Laura to

632
00:25:06,382 --> 00:25:08,982
Speaker 1: this day, sometimes we'll say, cause there was a moment she,

633
00:25:09,161 --> 00:25:12,561
Speaker 1: it was the weirdest thing. She, I handed her a

634
00:25:12,581 --> 00:25:16,842
Speaker 1: card to read and Laura's a speed reader and she

635
00:25:16,882 --> 00:25:20,882
Speaker 1: couldn't read it. She sat there for like, for like

636
00:25:20,942 --> 00:25:22,982
Speaker 1: five minutes. And she was like, John, I can't read this.

637
00:25:23,002 --> 00:25:24,721
Speaker 1: It's like, what do you mean you can't read it?

638
00:25:24,962 --> 00:25:26,441
Speaker 1: So if you hand her a pen, she could write,

639
00:25:27,022 --> 00:25:29,822
Speaker 1: but she couldn't read. It was a very, um, if

640
00:25:29,842 --> 00:25:31,942
Speaker 1: you heard a dyslexia, it was a very like specific

641
00:25:31,982 --> 00:25:32,742
Speaker 1: kind of Lexia.

642
00:25:33,022 --> 00:25:33,821
Speaker 2: That's very rare.

643
00:25:33,842 --> 00:25:36,482
Speaker 1: And, for a moment that we didn't know if she'd

644
00:25:36,522 --> 00:25:40,802
Speaker 1: ever be able to ever like read again, because that's.

645
00:25:40,681 --> 00:25:41,462
Speaker 2: Her career, right?

646
00:25:41,502 --> 00:25:43,062
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't be a nurse and can't, you know,

647
00:25:43,081 --> 00:25:45,302
Speaker 1: like if she could ever like interpret words on paper

648
00:25:45,342 --> 00:25:46,442
Speaker 1: and there was a chance she wouldn't be able to,

649
00:25:46,442 --> 00:25:49,102
Speaker 1: a moment she couldn't talk before one of her surgeries,

650
00:25:49,121 --> 00:25:52,022
Speaker 1: she had, she had a seizure and she was just

651
00:25:52,061 --> 00:25:54,721
Speaker 1: saying random words, like just random, she doesn't have any

652
00:25:54,762 --> 00:25:57,981
Speaker 1: recollection of it. And she, I didn't think, I don't

653
00:25:58,002 --> 00:26:00,492
Speaker 1: think I thought of it like this back then, but

654
00:26:01,871 --> 00:26:03,772
Speaker 1: she'll say to me sometimes, you realize like you were

655
00:26:03,851 --> 00:26:07,861
Speaker 1: staying with me not knowing if I would be like,

656
00:26:07,902 --> 00:26:09,462
Speaker 1: you know, there or not.

657
00:26:09,561 --> 00:26:11,311
Speaker 2: And I remember that not being like a question. I'm

658
00:26:11,331 --> 00:26:12,012
Speaker 2: a loyalist, right?

659
00:26:12,032 --> 00:26:16,592
Speaker 1: That's how God made me. But man, that jumps the

660
00:26:16,612 --> 00:26:18,412
Speaker 1: commitment level way.

661
00:26:18,472 --> 00:26:19,352
Speaker 2: Way up, you know.

662
00:26:20,112 --> 00:26:23,991
Speaker 1: And I just think about everybody's listening. I think we

663
00:26:24,072 --> 00:26:27,581
Speaker 1: all try to get around going through things. And I

664
00:26:27,601 --> 00:26:29,281
Speaker 1: think that's okay. Like I do, I pray, we talked

665
00:26:29,302 --> 00:26:31,542
Speaker 1: about before, I pray that God will take us around

666
00:26:31,922 --> 00:26:33,842
Speaker 1: as much trouble as possible. But I know there's going

667
00:26:33,862 --> 00:26:36,081
Speaker 1: to be some that he takes us through And I

668
00:26:36,121 --> 00:26:40,101
Speaker 1: think that love, there's a kind of love that you

669
00:26:40,141 --> 00:26:42,302
Speaker 1: just can't know until you've been through something with somebody.

670
00:26:43,022 --> 00:26:46,792
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. We avoid things, but when you look

671
00:26:46,831 --> 00:26:50,792
Speaker 3: back on your life, the stories that you tell, it's

672
00:26:50,891 --> 00:26:53,932
Speaker 3: never like, and then we went to Cancun for two weeks.

673
00:26:54,351 --> 00:26:58,442
Speaker 3: It's when the rainstorm caused your flight to be delayed.

674
00:26:58,452 --> 00:27:01,461
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? You tell those things of like,

675
00:27:02,202 --> 00:27:05,681
Speaker 3: whenever you get comedians in a room, The stories we tell.

676
00:27:05,601 --> 00:27:06,341
Speaker 2: Are– When you bombed.

677
00:27:06,362 --> 00:27:09,352
Speaker 3: And I bombed so bad. And then I found out

678
00:27:09,411 --> 00:27:13,151
Speaker 3: later that no one there spoke English or whatever. Right.

679
00:27:13,192 --> 00:27:15,672
Speaker 3: Those are the ones that we wanted to hear. And

680
00:27:15,712 --> 00:27:17,492
Speaker 3: those are the things that, like, if you're on tour

681
00:27:17,532 --> 00:27:19,752
Speaker 3: with somebody, those are the things that– I remember I'd

682
00:27:19,792 --> 00:27:23,692
Speaker 3: do these shows with Tim Hawkins. And I would get

683
00:27:23,752 --> 00:27:26,632
Speaker 3: back and you'd go, where'd you go? Where were you

684
00:27:26,652 --> 00:27:30,692
Speaker 3: this weekend? And I almost could not remember because they

685
00:27:30,831 --> 00:27:34,752
Speaker 3: felt like the same show. Yeah. They were all great. Yeah.

686
00:27:35,272 --> 00:27:37,712
Speaker 3: But like if you ask me what happened in Tupelo

687
00:27:37,752 --> 00:27:39,712
Speaker 3: when you were by yourself and it was 40 people

688
00:27:39,871 --> 00:27:41,811
Speaker 3: and it was a lock in and you should have

689
00:27:41,851 --> 00:27:43,712
Speaker 3: said no to it, but you did it. I can

690
00:27:43,732 --> 00:27:44,392
Speaker 3: remember that story.

691
00:27:45,362 --> 00:27:46,321
Speaker 2: Complete recollection.

692
00:27:46,702 --> 00:27:49,182
Speaker 3: And and also I think about my relationship with Curry

693
00:27:49,202 --> 00:27:51,882
Speaker 3: and the fact that she's like I tell stories on

694
00:27:51,902 --> 00:27:55,622
Speaker 3: the stage now in my new hour about her staying

695
00:27:55,641 --> 00:27:57,402
Speaker 3: with me in the early days of my career when

696
00:27:57,442 --> 00:27:59,621
Speaker 3: we did not know. I gave up health insurance for

697
00:27:59,621 --> 00:28:00,962
Speaker 3: 18 months. Yeah.

698
00:28:00,982 --> 00:28:03,512
Speaker 1: I left this job at the church to go pursue

699
00:28:03,552 --> 00:28:06,512
Speaker 1: this dream. And then she lost her job.

700
00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:08,772
Speaker 3: And we were, you know, she was, she was on

701
00:28:08,911 --> 00:28:11,512
Speaker 3: unemployment and then she got denied unemployment. So we're like,

702
00:28:11,532 --> 00:28:13,752
Speaker 3: just do we give up on my dream? Do I

703
00:28:13,772 --> 00:28:16,012
Speaker 3: go get a regular job now because I have no health?

704
00:28:16,512 --> 00:28:19,272
Speaker 3: Like all those decisions, like now you're on the other

705
00:28:19,311 --> 00:28:22,532
Speaker 3: side of it and that's the gold because you realize

706
00:28:22,552 --> 00:28:25,452
Speaker 3: that person's been through it. You know, you can trust

707
00:28:25,632 --> 00:28:27,582
Speaker 3: your level of trust for them goes up through the

708
00:28:27,621 --> 00:28:30,942
Speaker 3: roof because they've seen everything. Wow.

709
00:28:30,962 --> 00:28:33,692
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that when I was, I was

710
00:28:33,952 --> 00:28:36,572
Speaker 1: talking to Jesus about some difficult things this week and

711
00:28:36,612 --> 00:28:37,272
Speaker 1: I don't know.

712
00:28:37,342 --> 00:28:39,212
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't, I don't know why we're

713
00:28:39,272 --> 00:28:40,082
Speaker 2: in some of this stuff.

714
00:28:40,181 --> 00:28:41,661
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're going to do. I don't

715
00:28:41,681 --> 00:28:45,102
Speaker 1: know what I'm supposed to do. But I was like,

716
00:28:45,482 --> 00:28:47,042
Speaker 1: I asked him, I was like, what? I tried to

717
00:28:47,122 --> 00:28:50,542
Speaker 1: remember what have I learned in the past? What have

718
00:28:50,562 --> 00:28:52,322
Speaker 1: I learned in the past from difficult moments that I

719
00:28:52,342 --> 00:28:54,681
Speaker 1: didn't know? Cause you forget, right? But you get to

720
00:28:54,782 --> 00:28:57,742
Speaker 1: access that thing you've been through. And what I remembered was,

721
00:28:58,812 --> 00:29:01,172
Speaker 1: I have a chance right now before there's any resolution

722
00:29:01,212 --> 00:29:03,562
Speaker 1: to this particular problem to go ahead right now and

723
00:29:03,582 --> 00:29:06,802
Speaker 1: tell you that I trust you. Yeah. Um, so I

724
00:29:06,802 --> 00:29:08,161
Speaker 1: don't know what you're going to do. You may let

725
00:29:08,181 --> 00:29:10,261
Speaker 1: this go bad. I just want you to know that

726
00:29:10,282 --> 00:29:11,962
Speaker 1: I trust you. I trust that you hear me. I

727
00:29:12,202 --> 00:29:15,312
Speaker 1: trust that you're not ignoring me. I'm not abandoned. And

728
00:29:15,332 --> 00:29:17,512
Speaker 1: there's a thing Reggie and I are going to write

729
00:29:17,592 --> 00:29:19,412
Speaker 1: soon a book on hope.

730
00:29:20,352 --> 00:29:22,392
Speaker 2: And so it's what we're working on now a little bit,

731
00:29:22,431 --> 00:29:23,652
Speaker 2: just in the prep stage.

732
00:29:24,552 --> 00:29:27,441
Speaker 1: And, um, one of the things I've been really thinking

733
00:29:27,482 --> 00:29:31,462
Speaker 1: about hope, there's a scripture that says that hope does

734
00:29:31,582 --> 00:29:35,642
Speaker 1: not disappoint because the love of God has been poured

735
00:29:35,681 --> 00:29:39,372
Speaker 1: out on our hearts. And I've always been like that,

736
00:29:39,392 --> 00:29:41,392
Speaker 1: that the two things for some reason never connected to me.

737
00:29:42,012 --> 00:29:43,592
Speaker 1: It's like, that's too, like, I don't know. It sounds

738
00:29:43,632 --> 00:29:44,352
Speaker 1: like platitude.

739
00:29:44,372 --> 00:29:44,931
Speaker 3: Yeah.

740
00:29:45,232 --> 00:29:47,592
Speaker 1: Hope does not disappoint because God's love is important in

741
00:29:47,632 --> 00:29:49,812
Speaker 1: our hearts. Well, I was like, well, when I get

742
00:29:49,852 --> 00:29:51,532
Speaker 1: really disappointed, what good does that do?

743
00:29:51,592 --> 00:29:51,911
Speaker 3: Kind of thing.

744
00:29:51,931 --> 00:29:53,472
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? When the hopes are dashed

745
00:29:53,492 --> 00:29:53,872
Speaker 2: or whatever.

746
00:29:54,052 --> 00:29:57,732
Speaker 1: And it sort of hit me the other day when God's,

747
00:29:57,852 --> 00:30:00,702
Speaker 1: if God loves you, the reason hope doesn't disappoint is,

748
00:30:00,712 --> 00:30:04,142
Speaker 1: is no matter what you're facing, you know, if you're loved,

749
00:30:04,242 --> 00:30:08,842
Speaker 1: you're not abandoned. If you're love loved, you're not ignored.

750
00:30:09,542 --> 00:30:15,322
Speaker 1: If you're loved, you're not suddenly an enemy. yeah so

751
00:30:15,382 --> 00:30:18,942
Speaker 1: all the things in hopelessness that you that the lies

752
00:30:18,982 --> 00:30:21,902
Speaker 1: and the messaging that comes to your soul that's why

753
00:30:21,962 --> 00:30:24,382
Speaker 1: hope does not disappoint not because the outcome does not

754
00:30:24,422 --> 00:30:28,522
Speaker 1: disappoint but because the love reminds you of something that

755
00:30:28,681 --> 00:30:30,842
Speaker 1: refutes the lies that brings the hopelessness.

756
00:30:31,022 --> 00:30:33,342
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, love is what you've been through with somebody, Joni.

757
00:30:33,562 --> 00:30:36,482
Speaker 3: I was quoting Reggie the other day to a friend who, uh,

758
00:30:36,762 --> 00:30:39,602
Speaker 3: I was, cause he was talking about, I do, I

759
00:30:39,722 --> 00:30:41,612
Speaker 3: did a marriage cruise with him and he was talking

760
00:30:41,652 --> 00:30:45,012
Speaker 3: about like, it's the number one thing they get back

761
00:30:45,072 --> 00:30:47,732
Speaker 3: on the comment cards that they want more of. Like,

762
00:30:48,592 --> 00:30:51,192
Speaker 3: and I was like, I think it's because you go

763
00:30:51,212 --> 00:30:53,951
Speaker 3: through these storms as a couple together and life is

764
00:30:54,052 --> 00:30:57,392
Speaker 3: so serious and it takes your laughter away a little

765
00:30:57,411 --> 00:30:59,261
Speaker 3: bit if you let it. And so when they get

766
00:30:59,282 --> 00:31:01,402
Speaker 3: in a comedy show together and then look across and

767
00:31:01,422 --> 00:31:03,502
Speaker 3: they're both laughing at the same thing, it's like you,

768
00:31:03,681 --> 00:31:06,202
Speaker 3: it humanizes you in this instant. You feel this unity

769
00:31:06,242 --> 00:31:09,542
Speaker 3: with a crowd and there's this release that happens. That's

770
00:31:09,582 --> 00:31:12,142
Speaker 3: so powerful. And I was quoting Reggie to him. I

771
00:31:12,181 --> 00:31:13,642
Speaker 3: was saying like, I used to these shows with this

772
00:31:13,681 --> 00:31:15,482
Speaker 3: guy named Reggie Dabbs and he remembered Reggie. He knew

773
00:31:15,681 --> 00:31:17,902
Speaker 3: of Reggie. And I said, Reggie used to say he

774
00:31:18,002 --> 00:31:21,802
Speaker 3: uses humor with kids because if he can get a

775
00:31:21,822 --> 00:31:25,301
Speaker 3: crowd laughing, it means they still have hope. Yeah. It's

776
00:31:25,332 --> 00:31:28,982
Speaker 3: so powerful. Yeah. Like that's so real. Like, You're not

777
00:31:29,202 --> 00:31:30,042
Speaker 3: all the way gone.

778
00:31:30,411 --> 00:31:30,802
Speaker 2: If you're laughing.

779
00:31:30,832 --> 00:31:31,691
Speaker 3: If you're still laughing.

780
00:31:32,152 --> 00:31:34,712
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody laughs whenever they have nothing to hope for.

781
00:31:34,732 --> 00:31:35,032
Speaker 3: Right.

782
00:31:35,212 --> 00:31:35,672
Speaker 2: Interesting.

783
00:31:35,732 --> 00:31:38,872
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's good stuff. John, it's a good segue

784
00:31:38,892 --> 00:31:41,552
Speaker 3: to my segment. Johnny's Old Jokes. We call it Joke

785
00:31:41,592 --> 00:31:51,181
Speaker 3: About That. John, what do you call a Frenchman in sandals?

786
00:31:54,181 --> 00:31:54,482
Speaker 2: Help me.

787
00:31:54,502 --> 00:31:55,822
Speaker 3: I don't know. Philippe, fill up.

788
00:31:57,512 --> 00:31:58,252
Speaker 2: I was not going to get there.

789
00:31:58,292 --> 00:32:00,951
Speaker 3: That's a dumb one. One time, this is just a

790
00:32:00,992 --> 00:32:03,632
Speaker 3: story that I read on Reddit, and it's evidently a

791
00:32:03,652 --> 00:32:05,092
Speaker 3: true story because it said, I don't have a joke,

792
00:32:05,152 --> 00:32:07,012
Speaker 3: because there's a whole Reddit thread that I pull some

793
00:32:07,032 --> 00:32:09,162
Speaker 3: of these from about street jokes. But this one just said,

794
00:32:09,202 --> 00:32:10,962
Speaker 3: this is not a street joke, but this is a

795
00:32:10,982 --> 00:32:12,741
Speaker 3: true story. One time, me and my dad and his

796
00:32:12,782 --> 00:32:15,781
Speaker 3: employee were just standing outside. A bird pooped on my

797
00:32:15,802 --> 00:32:18,382
Speaker 3: dad's head, and his employee started to run off, and

798
00:32:18,402 --> 00:32:20,142
Speaker 3: my dad's like, where are you going? And he said,

799
00:32:20,161 --> 00:32:22,262
Speaker 3: to get some toilet paper. My dad says, why? It

800
00:32:22,302 --> 00:32:27,191
Speaker 3: will just fly away before you get back. Ha! That's great.

801
00:32:27,632 --> 00:32:31,192
Speaker 3: Sometimes truth is stranger than... That's great. The toilet paper

802
00:32:31,232 --> 00:32:32,472
Speaker 3: was for him, John. No, it wasn't.

803
00:32:32,622 --> 00:32:33,622
Speaker 2: He wasn't going to go wipe the bird.

804
00:32:33,642 --> 00:32:34,441
Speaker 3: Not for the bird.

805
00:32:34,462 --> 00:32:34,642
Speaker 1: Yeah.

806
00:32:35,422 --> 00:32:37,542
Speaker 3: John, you've probably heard this one. We used to... Because

807
00:32:37,582 --> 00:32:39,562
Speaker 3: I think our buddy, bass player Brian Finley, used to

808
00:32:39,582 --> 00:32:41,602
Speaker 3: tell this joke. But when I saw it on this thread,

809
00:32:41,622 --> 00:32:42,842
Speaker 3: I was like, I have to tell. I've never told

810
00:32:42,882 --> 00:32:44,822
Speaker 3: it on the show. Mozart died a long time ago

811
00:32:44,842 --> 00:32:47,172
Speaker 3: and was buried in a local cemetery. The groundskeeper was

812
00:32:47,212 --> 00:32:49,812
Speaker 3: doing his job and all of a sudden heard something odd.

813
00:32:50,161 --> 00:32:51,622
Speaker 3: In a panic, he ran to the Pope. I don't

814
00:32:51,642 --> 00:32:53,802
Speaker 3: know why the Pope's involved in this version of the story.

815
00:32:53,842 --> 00:32:56,132
Speaker 3: He ran to the Pope and yelled, Pope, Pope. I

816
00:32:56,132 --> 00:32:57,432
Speaker 3: don't know if that's what you would say. I think

817
00:32:57,452 --> 00:32:59,772
Speaker 3: he would say whatever. I don't know. Come with me.

818
00:32:59,812 --> 00:33:01,712
Speaker 3: There's something you have to hear. Two of them run

819
00:33:01,752 --> 00:33:04,332
Speaker 3: back to the cemetery. They heard Mozart's Fifth Symphony. Then

820
00:33:04,352 --> 00:33:06,432
Speaker 3: they looked at each other, puzzled, but they stayed listening.

821
00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:08,422
Speaker 3: And then they heard the Fourth Symphony, then the Third Symphony,

822
00:33:08,882 --> 00:33:11,042
Speaker 3: and the second. Then the second played, and all of

823
00:33:11,082 --> 00:33:12,442
Speaker 3: a sudden it dawned on the Pope, and he just

824
00:33:12,462 --> 00:33:14,402
Speaker 3: looked at the groundskeeper and said, Son, you do not

825
00:33:14,422 --> 00:33:16,662
Speaker 3: need to worry. Mozart is just decomposing.

826
00:33:17,702 --> 00:33:18,342
Speaker 2: Come on, guys.

827
00:33:21,152 --> 00:33:23,752
Speaker 3: Finally, John, I was on a date last night and

828
00:33:23,792 --> 00:33:26,612
Speaker 3: they asked what superpower I'd want. So I told them hindsight.

829
00:33:26,852 --> 00:33:29,212
Speaker 3: They said, why would you want that? It wouldn't help anyone.

830
00:33:29,252 --> 00:33:33,332
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I can see that now. John, let's

831
00:33:33,352 --> 00:33:41,412
Speaker 3: do this week in history. We call it Talk About Then. Yeah,

832
00:33:41,452 --> 00:33:46,752
Speaker 3: I can see that now. That's a superpower. John, the U.S.

833
00:33:46,832 --> 00:33:52,902
Speaker 3: mail truck was a contract. That was awarded this week

834
00:33:53,362 --> 00:33:56,542
Speaker 3: in 1986. The mail truck as we know it, the

835
00:33:56,722 --> 00:33:59,612
Speaker 3: boxy toaster looking mail truck. I did not know this.

836
00:34:00,262 --> 00:34:04,072
Speaker 3: The U.S. Postal Service awards Grumman, G-R-U-M-M-A-N, a $ 1. 1 billion

837
00:34:04,092 --> 00:34:06,252
Speaker 3: contract to produce 99,150 long life vehicles, LLVs. They were

838
00:34:06,272 --> 00:34:18,011
Speaker 3: about $ 11, 000 each at the time in 1986 money. with

839
00:34:18,052 --> 00:34:21,852
Speaker 3: an option to order an additional 54,000 units. The U.S.

840
00:34:21,872 --> 00:34:24,431
Speaker 3: Postal Service provided a specification, and three companies vied for

841
00:34:24,452 --> 00:34:28,112
Speaker 3: the contract by creating prototypes, with Grumman's being the winning entry.

842
00:34:28,132 --> 00:34:31,492
Speaker 3: The Grumman LLV was the first vehicle specifically designed for

843
00:34:31,732 --> 00:34:34,572
Speaker 3: the U.S. Postal Service. From 1987 to 1994, the USPS

844
00:34:34,612 --> 00:34:39,411
Speaker 3: purchased more than 100,000 of these vehicles. The specified lifespan

845
00:34:39,452 --> 00:34:42,492
Speaker 3: was 24 years, and they can last over 200,000 miles

846
00:34:42,832 --> 00:34:46,432
Speaker 3: on their original engine, so they're a long-life vehicle. The

847
00:34:46,452 --> 00:34:49,252
Speaker 3: gas mileage was terrible. It says it was a combined

848
00:34:49,472 --> 00:34:53,492
Speaker 3: EPA of 17 miles per gallon. And in highway and

849
00:34:53,552 --> 00:34:56,152
Speaker 3: city driving, the average 8 to 10 miles per gallon.

850
00:34:56,732 --> 00:34:58,232
Speaker 2: Which, I mean, stop and go, stop and go.

851
00:34:58,272 --> 00:34:59,592
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's what you're going to get.

852
00:34:59,632 --> 00:35:01,512
Speaker 3: You get about 10 miles per gallon. In 2021, the

853
00:35:01,572 --> 00:35:06,032
Speaker 3: USPS awarded the Oshkosh Defense, awarded Oshkosh Defense a contract

854
00:35:06,072 --> 00:35:09,072
Speaker 3: to produce 160,000 delivery vans to replace the L. So

855
00:35:09,092 --> 00:35:12,032
Speaker 3: some of these delivery vans are slowly replacing. Yeah. I

856
00:35:12,052 --> 00:35:14,592
Speaker 3: don't know. It used to be a Jeep. Yeah, and

857
00:35:14,632 --> 00:35:17,212
Speaker 3: then it became these big, boxier, taller. Back in the day, yeah.

858
00:35:17,232 --> 00:35:18,951
Speaker 3: I guess it's more spacious, these other things.

859
00:35:18,972 --> 00:35:20,732
Speaker 2: I wonder if Jeep had the contracts before that.

860
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:22,172
Speaker 3: Was it literally a Jeep vehicle?

861
00:35:22,192 --> 00:35:22,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe so.

862
00:35:22,912 --> 00:35:23,552
Speaker 3: Okay, could be.

863
00:35:23,872 --> 00:35:26,792
Speaker 2: You ever see the movie The Postman?

864
00:35:27,212 --> 00:35:27,692
Speaker 3: Ken Costner?

865
00:35:27,812 --> 00:35:29,152
Speaker 2: Yeah, post-apocalyptic.

866
00:35:29,332 --> 00:35:29,492
Speaker 1: No.

867
00:35:30,392 --> 00:35:30,652
Speaker 3: Really?

868
00:35:30,852 --> 00:35:30,992
Speaker 1: No.

869
00:35:31,652 --> 00:35:32,892
Speaker 3: That's one of those when he was in his era

870
00:35:32,972 --> 00:35:34,292
Speaker 3: of like, everything's going to be three and a half

871
00:35:34,332 --> 00:35:36,072
Speaker 3: hours long, and star me.

872
00:35:36,252 --> 00:35:37,552
Speaker 2: It's all post-apocalyptic.

873
00:35:37,652 --> 00:35:40,592
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Waterworld. Waterworld kind of got beat up, and

874
00:35:40,632 --> 00:35:43,022
Speaker 3: it was actually a decent film. Yeah. But it was

875
00:35:43,042 --> 00:35:44,701
Speaker 3: just because it was the most expensive movie ever made.

876
00:35:44,742 --> 00:35:47,362
Speaker 3: That's why they really beat it up. It was $ 200 million,

877
00:35:47,382 --> 00:35:49,662
Speaker 3: which now $ 200 million wouldn't make you a Netflix movie.

878
00:35:49,832 --> 00:35:52,192
Speaker 2: No. Everything. I mean, that's back when that was a

879
00:35:52,212 --> 00:35:52,512
Speaker 2: lot of money.

880
00:35:52,532 --> 00:35:56,332
Speaker 3: We spent that on the podcast. Yeah. John, this week, 1983,

881
00:35:56,332 --> 00:36:00,212
Speaker 3: magician David Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty. Liberty? Liberty

882
00:36:00,732 --> 00:36:07,152
Speaker 3: disappear on his TV special, The Magic of David Copperfield 5.

883
00:36:07,152 --> 00:36:08,952
Speaker 3: Copperfield said he wanted to perform this illusion. I didn't

884
00:36:08,972 --> 00:36:11,382
Speaker 3: know this part. I remember this as a kid. Because

885
00:36:11,462 --> 00:36:12,942
Speaker 3: I think it's some kind.

886
00:36:12,842 --> 00:36:17,222
Speaker 1: Of weird black cloak that came down and covered the.

887
00:36:17,482 --> 00:36:18,042
Speaker 2: Right, I remember that.

888
00:36:18,062 --> 00:36:19,442
Speaker 3: It was a trick. It was like a video trick.

889
00:36:19,482 --> 00:36:22,562
Speaker 3: But he wanted to do the illusion because his mother

890
00:36:22,582 --> 00:36:25,602
Speaker 3: was an immigrant. She impressed upon me how precious our

891
00:36:25,622 --> 00:36:27,681
Speaker 3: liberty is and how easily it can be lost. Then

892
00:36:27,802 --> 00:36:30,142
Speaker 3: one day it occurred to me I could show with

893
00:36:30,182 --> 00:36:32,662
Speaker 3: magic how we take our freedom for granted. Sometimes we

894
00:36:32,702 --> 00:36:35,662
Speaker 3: don't realize how important something is until it's gone and

895
00:36:35,702 --> 00:36:37,722
Speaker 3: has a black curtain draped in front of it and

896
00:36:37,922 --> 00:36:39,002
Speaker 3: camera tricks are used to.

897
00:36:41,772 --> 00:36:42,592
Speaker 2: Were the people present?

898
00:36:43,092 --> 00:36:44,752
Speaker 3: I don't know how he did it, but it was basically,

899
00:36:44,772 --> 00:36:47,032
Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't really make the magic alert.

900
00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:49,152
Speaker 2: Not to be, I don't want to tip my hand.

901
00:36:49,212 --> 00:36:56,342
Speaker 3: But magic's not real. He's a witch. John, born this week, 1908,

902
00:36:56,342 --> 00:36:59,002
Speaker 3: John Graham Jr. He was an American architect. In the

903
00:36:59,042 --> 00:37:02,402
Speaker 3: late 1940s, he designed what became the Modern Shopping Center.

904
00:37:03,082 --> 00:37:07,152
Speaker 3: He also designed the Space Needle for the 1962 Seattle

905
00:37:07,172 --> 00:37:11,302
Speaker 3: World's Fair, which is a very You've seen that. We

906
00:37:11,322 --> 00:37:14,042
Speaker 3: have the Gatlinburg Space Needle probably modeled after that Space Needle.

907
00:37:14,562 --> 00:37:18,442
Speaker 3: Just as important. And the first revolving restaurant in Honolulu.

908
00:37:18,482 --> 00:37:20,442
Speaker 3: Have you ever been in a revolving restaurant? I have.

909
00:37:20,462 --> 00:37:21,951
Speaker 3: What do you think of that? How do you feel?

910
00:37:21,972 --> 00:37:23,852
Speaker 1: First of all, you feel like, hey, this is a

911
00:37:23,832 --> 00:37:25,932
Speaker 1: $ 100 steak just because this restaurant turns.

912
00:37:26,112 --> 00:37:26,452
Speaker 2: I like it.

913
00:37:26,492 --> 00:37:29,072
Speaker 1: I went to one in Chicago. I'm on a junior

914
00:37:29,352 --> 00:37:31,372
Speaker 1: class trip. And I remember we ate up there. That

915
00:37:31,392 --> 00:37:31,972
Speaker 1: was a big deal.

916
00:37:31,992 --> 00:37:36,792
Speaker 2: I feel like that there was one in Seattle that

917
00:37:37,072 --> 00:37:37,572
Speaker 2: I ate at.

918
00:37:37,592 --> 00:37:40,652
Speaker 1: Because I remember this. I had my first lamb burger.

919
00:37:41,552 --> 00:37:44,572
Speaker 1: I was in college. I remember Sikkim, Student Institute of

920
00:37:44,592 --> 00:37:45,292
Speaker 1: Campus Ministry.

921
00:37:46,772 --> 00:37:51,002
Speaker 3: Sikkim. That's awful. It's so funny. They reduced the Great

922
00:37:51,022 --> 00:37:52,402
Speaker 3: Commission to Sikkim.

923
00:37:53,582 --> 00:37:54,862
Speaker 2: It was actually a really great time.

924
00:37:54,882 --> 00:37:56,282
Speaker 3: Going to all the world and Sikkim.

925
00:37:56,562 --> 00:37:58,282
Speaker 2: I spent two weeks up there. It was life changing.

926
00:37:58,462 --> 00:38:00,232
Speaker 3: I remember you coming back and you had a lot

927
00:38:00,272 --> 00:38:02,812
Speaker 3: to say. You were very fired up.

928
00:38:02,852 --> 00:38:05,672
Speaker 2: Well, I came back and I had broke up with

929
00:38:05,732 --> 00:38:06,992
Speaker 2: my long-term girlfriend.

930
00:38:07,092 --> 00:38:07,232
Speaker 3: Yeah.

931
00:38:07,662 --> 00:38:09,872
Speaker 2: That was the girlfriend before I met Laura. And that

932
00:38:09,932 --> 00:38:10,672
Speaker 2: was the big thing.

933
00:38:10,872 --> 00:38:11,052
Speaker 3: Yeah.

934
00:38:11,432 --> 00:38:13,392
Speaker 2: That I did that. And you were happy I did that.

935
00:38:14,232 --> 00:38:17,172
Speaker 3: I mean. She was great. Yeah.

936
00:38:17,212 --> 00:38:19,252
Speaker 2: I think her life would have been miserable being with

937
00:38:19,272 --> 00:38:20,292
Speaker 2: me in the life I've had.

938
00:38:20,792 --> 00:38:24,602
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sick them. Yeah. What's wrong with you? All right, John. Finally,

939
00:38:24,742 --> 00:38:28,942
Speaker 3: born this week, 1918, Betty Ford. She was an American

940
00:38:28,962 --> 00:38:34,282
Speaker 3: First Lady to Gerald Ford, the 38th U.S. President. founder

941
00:38:34,302 --> 00:38:37,202
Speaker 3: of the Betty Ford Clinic in 1982, shortly after becoming

942
00:38:37,242 --> 00:38:40,102
Speaker 3: First Lady, she underwent a mastectomy for breast cancer. Ford,

943
00:38:40,622 --> 00:38:43,302
Speaker 3: deciding to be open about her illness, which was really

944
00:38:43,402 --> 00:38:46,832
Speaker 3: different for the time, and her openness raised awareness of

945
00:38:46,872 --> 00:38:50,832
Speaker 3: breast cancer, resulting in more women self-examining, which led to

946
00:38:50,852 --> 00:38:54,072
Speaker 3: an increase in reported cases of breast cancer, a phenomenon

947
00:38:54,132 --> 00:38:56,392
Speaker 3: known as the Betty Ford blip. Did you know about this?

948
00:38:56,852 --> 00:39:00,572
Speaker 3: Because she was like, I found this breast cancer and

949
00:39:00,612 --> 00:39:02,712
Speaker 3: I had a mastectomy. You need to. So it was

950
00:39:02,832 --> 00:39:07,572
Speaker 3: so important, her outspokenness. And so people started catching breast

951
00:39:07,592 --> 00:39:10,152
Speaker 3: cancer a lot sooner. This is something that the reason

952
00:39:10,192 --> 00:39:12,432
Speaker 3: it makes the list. After Gerald Ford's loss of the

953
00:39:12,432 --> 00:39:17,022
Speaker 3: 1976 presidential election to Jimmy Carter, First Lady Betty Ford

954
00:39:17,102 --> 00:39:19,462
Speaker 3: put her dance lessons to use and danced on the

955
00:39:19,502 --> 00:39:22,202
Speaker 3: White House cabinet room table. And there's a photo that

956
00:39:22,242 --> 00:39:25,842
Speaker 3: I found of this. So there's actually a shot. And

957
00:39:25,882 --> 00:39:27,862
Speaker 3: it was hidden for a long time. And the thought was,

958
00:39:29,222 --> 00:39:30,842
Speaker 3: People are going to take this the wrong way, or

959
00:39:30,882 --> 00:39:32,602
Speaker 3: with her history of alcoholism, they're going to think it's

960
00:39:32,642 --> 00:39:35,642
Speaker 3: something that she'd lost her marvels. But I think it

961
00:39:35,682 --> 00:39:38,951
Speaker 3: was just she just thought, they can't fire us. We're

962
00:39:38,992 --> 00:39:41,392
Speaker 3: leaving tomorrow. It was the day before the new president

963
00:39:41,412 --> 00:39:44,312
Speaker 3: moves in, evidently. I think it's remarkable that she was

964
00:39:44,352 --> 00:39:46,012
Speaker 3: just like, let's have a little fun in this room.

965
00:39:46,592 --> 00:39:48,912
Speaker 3: So she danced on the table. I think she was

966
00:39:48,952 --> 00:39:51,482
Speaker 3: ready to go home. She was like, hey, we're going home.

967
00:39:52,102 --> 00:39:54,362
Speaker 2: Betty Ford's a national treasure.

968
00:39:54,422 --> 00:39:55,102
Speaker 3: I agree.

969
00:39:55,142 --> 00:39:56,682
Speaker 2: She was an icon. In fact, we need to get

970
00:39:56,722 --> 00:39:58,932
Speaker 2: our friend Allison– back on the podcast.

971
00:39:58,952 --> 00:40:00,882
Speaker 3: That would be good. She knows a lot about this probably.

972
00:40:00,902 --> 00:40:02,422
Speaker 2: She knows a lot about Betty Ford.

973
00:40:02,522 --> 00:40:04,302
Speaker 3: Do you think you could dance on this table? I

974
00:40:04,342 --> 00:40:06,332
Speaker 3: don't know if I would hold. Probably not. This is

975
00:40:06,392 --> 00:40:07,772
Speaker 3: some Ikea nonsense right here.

976
00:40:07,872 --> 00:40:09,932
Speaker 1: Well, we could lower it because it raises and lowers

977
00:40:09,992 --> 00:40:12,932
Speaker 1: to the lowest possible place if I fall.

978
00:40:14,302 --> 00:40:14,882
Speaker 2: Johnny, here's the thing.

979
00:40:14,902 --> 00:40:17,882
Speaker 1: When you fall, just don't be too far from the ground.

980
00:40:17,902 --> 00:40:19,802
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying with that though? Uh-huh.

981
00:40:20,022 --> 00:40:20,962
Speaker 2: Some of y'all stay grounded.

982
00:40:21,302 --> 00:40:21,842
Speaker 3: Some of y'all.

983
00:40:21,862 --> 00:40:23,802
Speaker 2: So if you fall, yeah, okay.

984
00:40:26,042 --> 00:40:28,232
Speaker 3: Yeah. But anyway, Betty Ford, I agree with you, a

985
00:40:28,372 --> 00:40:30,982
Speaker 3: national treasure. And I didn't know that about the breast

986
00:40:31,002 --> 00:40:34,402
Speaker 3: cancer awareness and stuff. It took a lot of boldness. Well, yeah.

987
00:40:34,442 --> 00:40:35,681
Speaker 2: No one was doing that then. As long as there's

988
00:40:35,702 --> 00:40:37,202
Speaker 2: commercials about that and things.

989
00:40:37,462 --> 00:40:38,422
Speaker 3: Interesting. Good stuff.

990
00:40:38,462 --> 00:40:38,701
Speaker 2: Yeah.

991
00:40:39,962 --> 00:40:40,822
Speaker 3: That's all I have for this week.

992
00:40:40,842 --> 00:40:41,142
Speaker 2: That's it.

993
00:40:41,262 --> 00:40:41,642
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

994
00:40:41,662 --> 00:40:45,062
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, guys. We were waiting with bated breath.

995
00:40:45,302 --> 00:40:48,642
Speaker 3: I know. Oh, I did have one more. I forgot.

996
00:40:48,942 --> 00:40:56,442
Speaker 3: I forgot one. Milk bottles. April 8th. 1879, John, the

997
00:40:56,502 --> 00:41:00,181
Speaker 3: first milk sold in glass bottles in the U.S., Echo

998
00:41:00,242 --> 00:41:03,882
Speaker 3: Farms Dairy of New York. And this is the reason

999
00:41:03,922 --> 00:41:07,612
Speaker 3: it makes the list. Because you didn't grow up around

1000
00:41:07,652 --> 00:41:09,472
Speaker 3: where the milkman and all that, right? We didn't grow

1001
00:41:09,492 --> 00:41:12,452
Speaker 3: up in that era. But prior to selling milk in

1002
00:41:12,472 --> 00:41:15,412
Speaker 3: glass bottles, the milkmen would just sell milk in bulk

1003
00:41:15,652 --> 00:41:17,552
Speaker 3: with the customer providing the containers.

1004
00:41:18,792 --> 00:41:19,682
Speaker 2: What did they bring it in?

1005
00:41:19,792 --> 00:41:21,682
Speaker 3: See? You'd have to give them something.

1006
00:41:21,702 --> 00:41:24,402
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Bring it back to me tomorrow in

1007
00:41:24,462 --> 00:41:27,102
Speaker 1: this pot or whatever. They just took it to the farm.

1008
00:41:27,162 --> 00:41:28,762
Speaker 1: And they get the raw milk and bring it to

1009
00:41:28,822 --> 00:41:31,042
Speaker 1: you and you just go, all right. So you provide

1010
00:41:31,082 --> 00:41:33,042
Speaker 1: the tub or the lid or the whatever.

1011
00:41:33,302 --> 00:41:33,702
Speaker 2: Interesting.

1012
00:41:34,302 --> 00:41:36,432
Speaker 3: So then eventually they're like, we should probably just get

1013
00:41:36,462 --> 00:41:37,992
Speaker 3: our own bottle so it's more controlled.

1014
00:41:38,012 --> 00:41:39,652
Speaker 2: Somebody got a big contract doing this.

1015
00:41:39,972 --> 00:41:42,892
Speaker 3: I guess. Yeah. I just thought of the, it's gross.

1016
00:41:43,392 --> 00:41:44,612
Speaker 3: I don't know. As long as.

1017
00:41:44,592 --> 00:41:46,491
Speaker 1: It's your own container and it's coming back to you.

1018
00:41:47,192 --> 00:41:49,332
Speaker 1: If everyone was just sharing containers, that'd be gross.

1019
00:41:50,752 --> 00:41:53,192
Speaker 3: You're just leaving these containers with people not knowing what's happening.

1020
00:41:53,212 --> 00:41:55,872
Speaker 2: Not knowing what they're going to do. Yeah. Interesting.

1021
00:41:55,932 --> 00:41:59,272
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to go back. We have this weird revisionist

1022
00:41:59,292 --> 00:42:03,642
Speaker 3: history about things, and nostalgia is a very powerful drug.

1023
00:42:04,352 --> 00:42:06,822
Speaker 3: But it's interesting to me that people always want to

1024
00:42:06,862 --> 00:42:09,142
Speaker 3: go back, but nobody ever is like, I wish we

1025
00:42:09,162 --> 00:42:11,241
Speaker 3: got our milk in bottles again. We had to wait

1026
00:42:11,282 --> 00:42:13,842
Speaker 3: for the milkman. Do you think people want that?

1027
00:42:13,902 --> 00:42:16,262
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of a movement towards raw.

1028
00:42:15,842 --> 00:42:17,622
Speaker 3: Milk right now. Well, I know Amazon brings our things. Yeah,

1029
00:42:17,662 --> 00:42:20,422
Speaker 3: there is definitely that. Raw milk and non-pasteurized.

1030
00:42:20,702 --> 00:42:23,282
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we like the past, but we want

1031
00:42:23,402 --> 00:42:25,161
Speaker 1: our modern comforts for sure.

1032
00:42:25,502 --> 00:42:27,712
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're picking and choosing. We were talking about that

1033
00:42:27,872 --> 00:42:29,732
Speaker 3: with Saturday Night Live because we're watching A Mighty Wind.

1034
00:42:29,772 --> 00:42:34,012
Speaker 3: And people really like... Because it's been a show for

1035
00:42:34,012 --> 00:42:37,972
Speaker 3: 50 years. Everybody looks back on it with these weird

1036
00:42:38,012 --> 00:42:40,832
Speaker 3: rose-colored glasses. The era that they were in high school,

1037
00:42:40,932 --> 00:42:43,462
Speaker 3: that was the best cast. But you're also... We were

1038
00:42:43,522 --> 00:42:46,442
Speaker 3: watching it in reruns, and they took out all the

1039
00:42:46,482 --> 00:42:50,102
Speaker 3: bad sketches. Yeah. And you're remembering also the greatest hits.

1040
00:42:50,122 --> 00:42:52,462
Speaker 3: So you're remembering Chris Farley falling through the table, but

1041
00:42:52,482 --> 00:42:55,172
Speaker 3: you're remembering the greatest hits of Chris Farley from those

1042
00:42:55,212 --> 00:42:56,872
Speaker 3: DVDs that we had when we were kids. Of all

1043
00:42:56,912 --> 00:42:59,252
Speaker 3: the things he did, you're getting the funniest thing. Yeah,

1044
00:42:59,292 --> 00:43:00,911
Speaker 3: and so I think we do that with everything. We

1045
00:43:00,932 --> 00:43:03,852
Speaker 3: do that with history. We do it with our childhoods.

1046
00:43:03,872 --> 00:43:05,872
Speaker 2: We curate it to the thing that we want the most.

1047
00:43:05,892 --> 00:43:08,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a very curated existence now. And now

1048
00:43:08,192 --> 00:43:10,452
Speaker 3: we curate it down to the, like, if you disagree

1049
00:43:10,472 --> 00:43:11,392
Speaker 3: with me, I'll block you.

1050
00:43:12,022 --> 00:43:14,582
Speaker 1: And that's what I like about this podcast because you

1051
00:43:14,622 --> 00:43:16,142
Speaker 1: do get us exactly as we are.

1052
00:43:16,242 --> 00:43:17,262
Speaker 2: This is raw milk.

1053
00:43:17,342 --> 00:43:21,872
Speaker 3: This is raw, unpasteurized in a tub that you gave us.

1054
00:43:22,412 --> 00:43:25,252
Speaker 3: And we brought it back to you. And we go, here, sorry,

1055
00:43:25,272 --> 00:43:28,012
Speaker 3: the lid's on crooked, but we don't know.

1056
00:43:28,072 --> 00:43:28,972
Speaker 2: We don't know what happened to it.

1057
00:43:28,972 --> 00:43:32,912
Speaker 3: Please, you're going to want to use this. Use Best Buy.

1058
00:43:32,992 --> 00:43:34,832
Speaker 2: We lost sight of it for a long time in

1059
00:43:35,012 --> 00:43:35,672
Speaker 2: the middle of it.

1060
00:43:35,672 --> 00:43:37,052
Speaker 3: We don't know what's going on.

1061
00:43:37,472 --> 00:43:40,632
Speaker 2: It really is rare that we edit something out. It's occasional.

1062
00:43:40,752 --> 00:43:40,892
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1063
00:43:41,692 --> 00:43:43,431
Speaker 2: Like, sometimes Johnny would just go off, guys. You wouldn't

1064
00:43:43,472 --> 00:43:44,092
Speaker 2: believe it.

1065
00:43:44,112 --> 00:43:44,412
Speaker 3: Right.

1066
00:43:44,552 --> 00:43:48,512
Speaker 1: On just, I mean, a completely insulting rant about something.

1067
00:43:48,572 --> 00:43:50,492
Speaker 2: And I'm like, dude, we can't do the new calm.

1068
00:43:50,532 --> 00:43:52,092
Speaker 2: Get off the table. You know what I'm saying?

1069
00:43:52,132 --> 00:43:52,452
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1070
00:43:53,012 --> 00:43:54,152
Speaker 2: My Betty Ford moment.

1071
00:43:54,472 --> 00:43:57,642
Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, everybody should watch West Wing again

1072
00:43:57,702 --> 00:43:58,292
Speaker 1: if you haven't.

1073
00:43:58,832 --> 00:44:00,962
Speaker 3: We've been doing this. We've been saying this for three episodes.

1074
00:44:01,042 --> 00:44:01,382
Speaker 3: I know.

1075
00:44:01,442 --> 00:44:02,782
Speaker 2: But did I tell you about the episode?

1076
00:44:02,822 --> 00:44:03,342
Speaker 3: Yes.

1077
00:44:03,482 --> 00:44:05,201
Speaker 2: Because they interviewed Gerald Ford.

1078
00:44:05,262 --> 00:44:07,762
Speaker 3: Yes, of course. Not Betty Ford, though.

1079
00:44:08,162 --> 00:44:08,642
Speaker 2: No, they didn't.

1080
00:44:09,602 --> 00:44:11,402
Speaker 1: John, where would they find out more about our show?

1081
00:44:12,012 --> 00:44:17,431
Speaker 1: Go to Gerald Ford. You got to talkaboutthatpodcast.com. There's over

1082
00:44:17,432 --> 00:44:20,452
Speaker 1: 350 archived episodes for you. Click on the upper right-hand

1083
00:44:20,492 --> 00:44:23,411
Speaker 1: link if you want to get ad-free content, shows without commercials.

1084
00:44:24,002 --> 00:44:26,312
Speaker 1: If you want to write us a note, go to hello.

1085
00:44:27,002 --> 00:44:28,722
Speaker 1: Just start an email.

1086
00:44:28,962 --> 00:44:32,482
Speaker 3: Hello. In the field where you would write the two.

1087
00:44:32,602 --> 00:44:33,042
Speaker 1: Hello.

1088
00:44:33,122 --> 00:44:33,402
Speaker 2: Okay.

1089
00:44:33,582 --> 00:44:34,562
Speaker 3: At talkaboutthatpodcast.com.

1090
00:44:34,622 --> 00:44:35,162
Speaker 2: In the field.

1091
00:44:35,882 --> 00:44:39,122
Speaker 3: And then the subject you write, best podcast ever. Oh, yeah.

1092
00:44:39,242 --> 00:44:41,462
Speaker 3: And then say whatever you want. Yeah. Leave us a review, though.

1093
00:44:41,482 --> 00:44:42,762
Speaker 3: That helps other people find the show.

1094
00:44:43,222 --> 00:44:43,602
Speaker 2: It does.

1095
00:44:43,662 --> 00:44:45,442
Speaker 3: Five stars if you feel so inclined.

1096
00:44:45,742 --> 00:44:47,302
Speaker 2: There's a lot of new people listening to the show

1097
00:44:47,342 --> 00:44:48,262
Speaker 2: right now. We love to hear from them.

1098
00:44:48,282 --> 00:44:50,161
Speaker 3: There are, and that's great. And thanks for going back

1099
00:44:50,202 --> 00:44:53,122
Speaker 3: and listening to the older episodes, too, and seeing us

1100
00:44:53,232 --> 00:44:55,032
Speaker 3: kind of fumble our way through this journey.

1101
00:44:55,592 --> 00:44:57,411
Speaker 2: Johnny, we're all evolving. You know what I'm saying? We're

1102
00:44:57,432 --> 00:44:59,552
Speaker 2: becoming something different. You never stop becoming.

1103
00:44:59,572 --> 00:45:00,712
Speaker 3: Isn't that something?

1104
00:45:01,312 --> 00:45:01,511
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1105
00:45:01,712 --> 00:45:07,222
Speaker 3: We're still moving ever closer to greatness. Yeah. Fumbling towards it.

1106
00:45:07,332 --> 00:45:08,552
Speaker 2: Fumbling, stumbling, bumbling.

1107
00:45:08,572 --> 00:45:09,172
Speaker 3: Yes.

1108
00:45:09,192 --> 00:45:14,232
Speaker 1: You should check out Johnny W-J-O-N-N-I-E-W.com for new tour dates.

1109
00:45:14,272 --> 00:45:15,812
Speaker 2: He's all over the country, people. Go join him.

1110
00:45:15,832 --> 00:45:18,002
Speaker 3: If you live in Nashville, your middle Tennessee area, or

1111
00:45:18,042 --> 00:45:19,382
Speaker 3: you want to drive, you're thinking about, hey, let's take

1112
00:45:19,402 --> 00:45:22,842
Speaker 3: a trip to Nashville. April 24th, I'm doing a co-headlining

1113
00:45:22,882 --> 00:45:27,102
Speaker 3: show with my buddy Steve Rogers. Steve opens for Brian Regan,

1114
00:45:27,142 --> 00:45:29,352
Speaker 3: Tom Papa, and Nate Borgazzi on the road. Yeah. It's

1115
00:45:29,392 --> 00:45:31,352
Speaker 3: one of their main openers. So it's going to be

1116
00:45:31,372 --> 00:45:34,352
Speaker 3: a great show. And we're doing co-headlining sets on that show.

1117
00:45:34,392 --> 00:45:36,732
Speaker 3: We just added Paula Kuczynski, who's kind of a rising star.

1118
00:45:36,752 --> 00:45:38,632
Speaker 3: She's actually doing The Ryman tonight as a part of

1119
00:45:38,672 --> 00:45:41,012
Speaker 3: a showcase. So that's kind of a big moment for her.

1120
00:45:41,172 --> 00:45:44,712
Speaker 3: Excited for Paula. But she's great. It's going to be

1121
00:45:44,732 --> 00:45:48,252
Speaker 3: a great show. April 24th, that's at a theater called

1122
00:45:48,272 --> 00:45:50,732
Speaker 3: The Mockingbird. It's by The Factory in Franklin. So it's

1123
00:45:50,752 --> 00:45:56,332
Speaker 3: a cool, hip theater. And tickets remain. But limited, John.

1124
00:45:56,472 --> 00:45:57,652
Speaker 3: Limited to how many we can sell.

1125
00:45:58,432 --> 00:46:00,492
Speaker 2: Mockingbird is where our buddy Caleb Edwards did his show.

1126
00:46:00,512 --> 00:46:01,812
Speaker 3: He does. It's a great room. It's a great room.

1127
00:46:01,832 --> 00:46:03,172
Speaker 3: What you would call in Nashville, you call it a

1128
00:46:03,212 --> 00:46:07,632
Speaker 3: listening room. It's a great room to see and be seen.

1129
00:46:08,052 --> 00:46:08,232
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1130
00:46:08,512 --> 00:46:10,431
Speaker 2: Yeah. Check it out, guys. Buy those tickets, man. Come

1131
00:46:10,462 --> 00:46:11,682
Speaker 2: be a part of it. It's exciting.

1132
00:46:11,722 --> 00:46:13,422
Speaker 1: And thanks to all of you who've sent us messages

1133
00:46:13,462 --> 00:46:15,842
Speaker 1: and reviews and just good thoughts. We get a lot

1134
00:46:15,862 --> 00:46:16,661
Speaker 1: of good thoughts from you guys.

1135
00:46:16,702 --> 00:46:18,942
Speaker 2: It means a lot. And John, I think we should

1136
00:46:18,962 --> 00:46:20,062
Speaker 2: do it again. What do you think?

1137
00:46:20,222 --> 00:46:20,701
Speaker 3: I think we should.

1138
00:46:20,922 --> 00:46:22,482
Speaker 2: Let's do it again next week here on Talk About That.

1139
00:46:22,502 --> 00:46:22,822
Speaker 1: Talk About That.