1 00:00:38,042 --> 00:00:40,342 Speaker 1: Hey out there to all of our friends from Banter Town, 2 00:00:40,382 --> 00:00:42,942 Speaker 1: this is John. As you've probably heard by now after 3 00:00:42,942 --> 00:00:46,292 Speaker 1: 10 years of Talk About That episodes airing most every week, 4 00:00:46,872 --> 00:00:49,652 Speaker 1: Johnny and I have hit an especially busy season in 5 00:00:49,692 --> 00:00:51,612 Speaker 1: both of our lives that has required us to take 6 00:00:51,672 --> 00:00:54,692 Speaker 1: a little hiatus from weekly episodes. Hey, but fear not. 7 00:00:55,232 --> 00:00:57,672 Speaker 1: We'd still like to bring you some of the best 8 00:00:57,832 --> 00:00:59,732 Speaker 1: of Talk About That. These are some of our most 9 00:00:59,822 --> 00:01:03,362 Speaker 1: downloaded episodes from the past several years. So whether you're 10 00:01:03,392 --> 00:01:07,522 Speaker 1: hearing these conversations again or discovering them for the first time, 11 00:01:07,842 --> 00:01:10,262 Speaker 1: we hope you'll enjoy diving back into some of our 12 00:01:10,342 --> 00:01:13,882 Speaker 1: favorite talks. As always, thanks so much for listening, and 13 00:01:13,922 --> 00:01:15,192 Speaker 1: we hope you enjoy this episode. 14 00:01:18,331 --> 00:01:19,732 Speaker 2: Life Audio. 15 00:01:22,492 --> 00:01:24,772 Speaker 3: Today on Talk About That, John ponders how many pics 16 00:01:24,812 --> 00:01:28,872 Speaker 3: of his kid is too many and vigorously defends coconut. Meanwhile, 17 00:01:28,912 --> 00:01:31,372 Speaker 3: I reveal what all rock band photos have in common 18 00:01:31,432 --> 00:01:33,972 Speaker 3: and find out the terrible original name for the Girl Scouts. 19 00:01:35,081 --> 00:01:37,122 Speaker 3: Plus a conversation about the Sermon on the Mount and 20 00:01:37,162 --> 00:01:40,342 Speaker 3: why it's needed now more than ever. Today's episode is 21 00:01:40,382 --> 00:01:43,242 Speaker 3: not sponsored by restaurant to-go boxes. Let the other half 22 00:01:43,282 --> 00:01:46,052 Speaker 3: of your meal rot in your very own fridge. But first, 23 00:01:46,272 --> 00:01:47,592 Speaker 3: a word from our actual sponsor. 24 00:01:56,252 --> 00:01:58,632 Speaker 2: Pull up a chair, turn up the radio. Guys, it's 25 00:01:58,712 --> 00:02:00,972 Speaker 2: Talk About That. I'm John here with Johnny. 26 00:02:00,992 --> 00:02:05,072 Speaker 3: It's not the radio. They're on their devices. 27 00:02:05,292 --> 00:02:07,292 Speaker 2: They might have an app for a podcast on their 28 00:02:07,852 --> 00:02:08,811 Speaker 2: Bluetooth device. 29 00:02:08,932 --> 00:02:12,222 Speaker 3: Remember the MP3 player market had like a, there was 30 00:02:12,242 --> 00:02:15,042 Speaker 3: a lot of those knockoffs trying to be iPods. Are 31 00:02:15,082 --> 00:02:17,362 Speaker 3: all those just gone now? Yeah. Like I had like 32 00:02:17,401 --> 00:02:21,181 Speaker 3: a Sansa flash device. What was the big thing? It 33 00:02:21,442 --> 00:02:21,962 Speaker 3: was a Zune. 34 00:02:22,242 --> 00:02:22,502 Speaker 4: Zune. 35 00:02:22,522 --> 00:02:24,222 Speaker 3: That was the Microsoft. 36 00:02:24,262 --> 00:02:26,242 Speaker 2: Gomez had a Zune, and he was always like, Zunes 37 00:02:26,281 --> 00:02:27,822 Speaker 2: are so much better. We were like, no. 38 00:02:27,922 --> 00:02:29,202 Speaker 3: Superior, the Zune store. 39 00:02:29,242 --> 00:02:29,602 Speaker 1: Yeah. 40 00:02:29,622 --> 00:02:31,422 Speaker 3: I go, you mean the Apple store? Yeah. Because. 41 00:02:32,262 --> 00:02:35,692 Speaker 2: No, it does not work. No, I don't. 42 00:02:36,031 --> 00:02:37,562 Speaker 1: You know what I found doing the office of the day? 43 00:02:37,572 --> 00:02:39,452 Speaker 1: I found an actual Walkman. 44 00:02:39,932 --> 00:02:40,132 Speaker 3: Yeah. 45 00:02:40,272 --> 00:02:41,072 Speaker 2: I have an actual Walkman. 46 00:02:41,091 --> 00:02:44,052 Speaker 3: Wait, was it, so it was a disc Walkman, a discman? 47 00:02:44,091 --> 00:02:44,751 Speaker 2: No, a cassette. 48 00:02:44,972 --> 00:02:45,372 Speaker 3: What? 49 00:02:45,552 --> 00:02:46,531 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a cassette Walkman. 50 00:02:46,552 --> 00:02:46,932 Speaker 3: I kept it. 51 00:02:47,912 --> 00:02:50,871 Speaker 1: I also kept my original laptop from like, it was 52 00:02:50,892 --> 00:02:52,452 Speaker 1: already used when I bought it in 2001. 53 00:02:52,432 --> 00:02:55,102 Speaker 2: Yeah. Like it's a, yeah. 54 00:02:55,132 --> 00:02:57,942 Speaker 3: There's a video somewhere. There's these videos where they ask 55 00:02:57,982 --> 00:03:00,122 Speaker 3: like kids from today's generation, not kids, but like even 56 00:03:00,142 --> 00:03:02,702 Speaker 3: like teenagers, like Sadie's age. And they go, if I'm 57 00:03:02,742 --> 00:03:04,282 Speaker 3: going to say what this is and you tell me 58 00:03:04,342 --> 00:03:07,082 Speaker 3: what you think it is. And somebody said Walkman and they, 59 00:03:07,362 --> 00:03:09,221 Speaker 3: the kid did not know what it was. They go, 60 00:03:10,222 --> 00:03:13,042 Speaker 3: is it like a device that helps you walk? Yeah. 61 00:03:13,382 --> 00:03:14,142 Speaker 2: Well, why would they know? 62 00:03:14,282 --> 00:03:14,502 Speaker 3: Yeah. 63 00:03:14,822 --> 00:03:15,002 Speaker 1: Yeah. 64 00:03:15,142 --> 00:03:15,621 Speaker 2: A Walkman. 65 00:03:16,002 --> 00:03:16,162 Speaker 1: Yeah. 66 00:03:18,212 --> 00:03:20,632 Speaker 3: Gary Goldman had a great bit comedian. Gary Goldman had 67 00:03:20,652 --> 00:03:22,452 Speaker 3: a great bit about the Discman. He goes, I had 68 00:03:22,492 --> 00:03:25,212 Speaker 3: a disc when he goes gigantic, the size of a, 69 00:03:25,332 --> 00:03:26,732 Speaker 3: he was just talking about how great it was, but 70 00:03:26,752 --> 00:03:27,912 Speaker 3: he goes, if you don't remember them, he goes, it 71 00:03:27,932 --> 00:03:30,592 Speaker 3: was the size of a manhole cover. He goes, and 72 00:03:30,612 --> 00:03:34,112 Speaker 3: you could play. He goes, he goes anti-shock. He could 73 00:03:34,132 --> 00:03:37,162 Speaker 3: say all the features of it. And he goes, uh, 74 00:03:37,702 --> 00:03:41,722 Speaker 3: he goes, and my favorite feature of all random, random. 75 00:03:41,882 --> 00:03:45,802 Speaker 3: When you listen, when you hit random, You didn't know 76 00:03:45,962 --> 00:03:50,912 Speaker 3: what in the Sam Hill was coming next. What one 77 00:03:51,512 --> 00:03:54,352 Speaker 3: of 10 songs was going to come? It's just such 78 00:03:54,392 --> 00:03:56,572 Speaker 3: a funny, like, it is. It's like we were like, ooh, random, 79 00:03:56,592 --> 00:03:58,712 Speaker 3: let's spice it up. But it's 10 songs. 80 00:03:58,792 --> 00:04:00,452 Speaker 2: It's 10 songs, right. 81 00:04:00,492 --> 00:04:04,012 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you shuffle now, it's like you're shuffling 10,000 songs. 82 00:04:04,152 --> 00:04:06,392 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're shuffling your life. Right. I mean, it could 83 00:04:06,412 --> 00:04:09,162 Speaker 3: be a track from your audio book, which that would 84 00:04:09,202 --> 00:04:11,022 Speaker 3: happen on the old iPods, where you'd be like, listen 85 00:04:11,042 --> 00:04:12,382 Speaker 3: to it. You're jogging, and then all of a sudden 86 00:04:12,402 --> 00:04:16,002 Speaker 3: it's like, Today, this week in World War II, and 87 00:04:16,022 --> 00:04:17,262 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, no. 88 00:04:17,722 --> 00:04:20,742 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm amazed at the number of digital files now. 89 00:04:20,802 --> 00:04:24,532 Speaker 1: The digital footprint is large. Like, I did a search 90 00:04:24,572 --> 00:04:26,492 Speaker 1: in my Google photos because you can search by names. 91 00:04:26,672 --> 00:04:26,872 Speaker 3: Right. 92 00:04:27,231 --> 00:04:28,412 Speaker 2: I can tell you. In fact, right now. 93 00:04:28,731 --> 00:04:29,772 Speaker 3: No, John, what are we doing? 94 00:04:29,792 --> 00:04:30,192 Speaker 2: I want to know. 95 00:04:30,212 --> 00:04:31,092 Speaker 3: A live exercise? 96 00:04:31,132 --> 00:04:31,751 Speaker 2: I want to know. 97 00:04:32,072 --> 00:04:33,972 Speaker 3: Oh, look, I'm up here. How many photos of me 98 00:04:33,991 --> 00:04:34,212 Speaker 3: are in here? 99 00:04:34,231 --> 00:04:38,722 Speaker 2: How many photos of Johnny Weddington are up here? Was 100 00:04:38,762 --> 00:04:39,442 Speaker 2: it tell me how many? 101 00:04:41,032 --> 00:04:41,132 Speaker 1: Oh. 102 00:04:41,392 --> 00:04:42,232 Speaker 3: You're stalking me, dude. 103 00:04:42,252 --> 00:04:42,902 Speaker 2: It doesn't give me a. 104 00:04:42,932 --> 00:04:43,372 Speaker 3: It's too many. 105 00:04:43,412 --> 00:04:44,272 Speaker 2: It doesn't give me a. 106 00:04:44,552 --> 00:04:44,952 Speaker 3: Look at this. 107 00:04:45,132 --> 00:04:48,231 Speaker 2: Look, I'm still scrolling, people. This is all Johnny W. 108 00:04:48,892 --> 00:04:51,392 Speaker 3: And these are all printed out in a shrine in 109 00:04:51,412 --> 00:04:52,052 Speaker 3: your home, too, right? 110 00:04:52,072 --> 00:04:54,351 Speaker 2: Only if you're watching right now on YouTube can you 111 00:04:54,412 --> 00:04:55,912 Speaker 2: see them. Still scrolling. 112 00:04:55,952 --> 00:04:56,272 Speaker 3: Do you. 113 00:04:56,692 --> 00:04:58,632 Speaker 2: This is all Johnny W. All the way back to 04. 114 00:04:58,632 --> 00:05:01,072 Speaker 3: Do you light candles and look at these sometimes? 115 00:05:01,092 --> 00:05:02,332 Speaker 2: I want you to check that one out, Johnny. 116 00:05:02,532 --> 00:05:03,791 Speaker 3: Oh, that's not... That's actually not bad. 117 00:05:03,812 --> 00:05:05,692 Speaker 2: That's a pretty cool shot right there. I think that's 118 00:05:05,712 --> 00:05:06,752 Speaker 2: going to make to the photo wall. 119 00:05:07,132 --> 00:05:11,611 Speaker 3: That's my police line strap. Yeah. That was my Counterculture. 120 00:05:12,372 --> 00:05:14,512 Speaker 3: Look at me. I got the funny strap on my guitar. 121 00:05:14,712 --> 00:05:16,412 Speaker 2: And it's cool because there's a big screen behind us 122 00:05:16,472 --> 00:05:17,532 Speaker 2: with us on that screen, too. 123 00:05:18,872 --> 00:05:19,812 Speaker 3: It's a screen within a screen. 124 00:05:19,832 --> 00:05:21,512 Speaker 1: A screen within a screen. And then behind there, there 125 00:05:21,552 --> 00:05:23,572 Speaker 1: is actually a screen with the screen. 126 00:05:23,772 --> 00:05:23,952 Speaker 3: Okay. 127 00:05:24,972 --> 00:05:26,912 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, so when I looked at my daughter, 128 00:05:27,212 --> 00:05:29,312 Speaker 1: it said 20,000 photos. 129 00:05:29,472 --> 00:05:30,972 Speaker 3: Yeah. 20,000. 130 00:05:30,972 --> 00:05:33,452 Speaker 1: And I just imported a bunch more. And my songs, 131 00:05:33,472 --> 00:05:35,692 Speaker 1: there's no telling. But think of how many files. And 132 00:05:35,732 --> 00:05:36,991 Speaker 1: that's why, Johnny, if it all goes. 133 00:05:36,892 --> 00:05:41,751 Speaker 3: Away, whew. Right, right. But, I mean, you have the memories. 134 00:05:43,122 --> 00:05:43,962 Speaker 2: In my head, you mean? 135 00:05:44,122 --> 00:05:44,302 Speaker 3: Yeah. 136 00:05:44,422 --> 00:05:45,442 Speaker 2: Or, like, on my hard drive? 137 00:05:45,782 --> 00:05:47,782 Speaker 3: No, I mean in your brain. 138 00:05:47,842 --> 00:05:49,202 Speaker 2: No, I don't have those anymore. 139 00:05:49,222 --> 00:05:50,741 Speaker 3: Oh, you don't? Yeah. But, I mean, the stuff that 140 00:05:50,762 --> 00:05:53,392 Speaker 3: you're supposed to remember you have. Because our families didn't 141 00:05:53,432 --> 00:05:55,272 Speaker 3: have this. We didn't have. We had, like, a book. 142 00:05:55,732 --> 00:05:56,032 Speaker 2: Yeah. 143 00:05:56,192 --> 00:06:00,291 Speaker 3: You know, with, like, the cellophane. Right. Little pockets. 144 00:06:00,532 --> 00:06:00,731 Speaker 1: Yeah. 145 00:06:01,092 --> 00:06:02,592 Speaker 3: And it was like you made the book. 146 00:06:02,922 --> 00:06:03,142 Speaker 1: Yeah. 147 00:06:03,342 --> 00:06:05,442 Speaker 3: Every now and again, you go, look, there's the Disney trip. Remember, 148 00:06:05,462 --> 00:06:07,172 Speaker 3: look how happy you are. So why are you being 149 00:06:07,192 --> 00:06:07,752 Speaker 3: so sad now? 150 00:06:07,942 --> 00:06:09,112 Speaker 2: It does feel like. 151 00:06:09,432 --> 00:06:12,791 Speaker 3: I always thought that's how... By the way, shadowboxing and... 152 00:06:12,712 --> 00:06:15,532 Speaker 3: What is it called? Scrapboxing. Scrapboxing. 153 00:06:15,912 --> 00:06:18,291 Speaker 2: Shadowboxing is something different than making shadowboxes. 154 00:06:18,312 --> 00:06:20,652 Speaker 3: Well, no, making... Yes, true. Shadowboxing is like, yeah, your 155 00:06:20,672 --> 00:06:24,252 Speaker 3: parents gearing up to fight you. No, but shadowboxing and 156 00:06:24,672 --> 00:06:26,351 Speaker 3: scrapbooking and all that, I used to have a bit 157 00:06:26,372 --> 00:06:29,962 Speaker 3: about that early on in my career about how it's 158 00:06:30,002 --> 00:06:34,562 Speaker 3: just parents... developing an evidence log so they can use 159 00:06:34,601 --> 00:06:36,302 Speaker 3: it against their kids. Right. Because they're like, why are 160 00:06:36,342 --> 00:06:38,082 Speaker 3: you so upset? And they go to the book. 161 00:06:38,582 --> 00:06:39,362 Speaker 2: Look when you were happy. 162 00:06:39,382 --> 00:06:41,022 Speaker 3: Look when you were happy. See, I had to work 163 00:06:41,052 --> 00:06:45,692 Speaker 3: three jobs. It's an evidence log of parental goodness. I 164 00:06:45,732 --> 00:06:47,671 Speaker 3: do think there's so many photos now. Yeah. 165 00:06:48,192 --> 00:06:50,762 Speaker 1: Like, is it so many we just don't delve into it? 166 00:06:50,832 --> 00:06:53,162 Speaker 1: Because how are you going to find what, like. 167 00:06:53,582 --> 00:06:55,392 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. 168 00:06:55,412 --> 00:06:57,172 Speaker 3: If you have 20,000 photos, you may as well have 169 00:06:57,212 --> 00:06:58,872 Speaker 3: no photos. That would be the argument. It's like if 170 00:06:58,892 --> 00:07:01,072 Speaker 3: you have three quarterbacks on your team, you have no quarterbacks. 171 00:07:01,092 --> 00:07:03,352 Speaker 3: That's what the old adage of college football is, to 172 00:07:03,712 --> 00:07:05,872 Speaker 3: take it to a place where very few of our 173 00:07:06,152 --> 00:07:07,182 Speaker 3: listeners will understand. 174 00:07:07,202 --> 00:07:11,222 Speaker 1: How do you act like our listeners can't understand college football? 175 00:07:11,262 --> 00:07:12,782 Speaker 3: I never really understood that saying either. Because I was like, 176 00:07:12,802 --> 00:07:15,522 Speaker 3: if you give me two quarterbacks, I'll take that. One 177 00:07:15,542 --> 00:07:17,522 Speaker 3: guy gets injured, I have another great quarterback? I don't 178 00:07:17,542 --> 00:07:19,582 Speaker 3: agree with it. But anyway, I do agree with it 179 00:07:19,602 --> 00:07:22,122 Speaker 3: if you have 20,000 photos of somebody that you're less 180 00:07:22,182 --> 00:07:24,592 Speaker 3: likely to be like, Yeah, I mean, we probably have 181 00:07:24,622 --> 00:07:26,802 Speaker 3: a photo of that. Like, people go to their kids' 182 00:07:26,842 --> 00:07:29,722 Speaker 3: events and just go, they never stop. They're watching it 183 00:07:29,762 --> 00:07:32,882 Speaker 3: through the viewfinder. You're not even experiencing it because you're 184 00:07:32,902 --> 00:07:34,702 Speaker 3: thinking of these great, it's almost like the fireworks thing 185 00:07:34,722 --> 00:07:37,062 Speaker 3: of like, people take photos and videos of these fireworks. 186 00:07:37,162 --> 00:07:38,202 Speaker 2: They're not experiencing fireworks. 187 00:07:38,362 --> 00:07:40,022 Speaker 3: And you're never going to go back and look at those. 188 00:07:40,062 --> 00:07:42,912 Speaker 3: Nobody's going, guys, everybody come over tonight. We're going to 189 00:07:42,972 --> 00:07:44,992 Speaker 3: cook out and we're going to watch the fireworks from 190 00:07:45,012 --> 00:07:46,592 Speaker 3: last year. You go, it's August. 191 00:07:47,332 --> 00:07:47,492 Speaker 1: Yeah. 192 00:07:47,512 --> 00:07:50,032 Speaker 3: We remember it. And why would we do that? Are 193 00:07:50,052 --> 00:07:50,672 Speaker 3: you a lunatic? 194 00:07:50,912 --> 00:07:53,052 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think seeing people, it's different. 195 00:07:53,072 --> 00:07:55,662 Speaker 3: Yeah. Are you saying that Sadie is a firework? 196 00:07:56,142 --> 00:07:56,662 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 197 00:07:56,682 --> 00:08:00,262 Speaker 3: Are you saying you want to let her colors burst? 198 00:08:00,442 --> 00:08:04,622 Speaker 1: We have found quite a bit of stuff that we've enjoyed. 199 00:08:04,642 --> 00:08:05,882 Speaker 3: I'm not saying people should. 200 00:08:05,902 --> 00:08:07,612 Speaker 4: Why do you act like that my daughter doesn't matter? 201 00:08:07,752 --> 00:08:09,392 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be that guy that doesn't have kids. 202 00:08:09,432 --> 00:08:11,552 Speaker 4: It's like, nobody should take pictures of their kids. It's 203 00:08:11,592 --> 00:08:14,372 Speaker 4: ruining their... Believe me, I'm not being that guy. I 204 00:08:14,412 --> 00:08:17,132 Speaker 4: have a lot of photos of my dogs and my wife. 205 00:08:17,212 --> 00:08:19,832 Speaker 4: I mean, I take photos too, but 20,000, John. 206 00:08:19,892 --> 00:08:20,332 Speaker 3: Is a lot. 207 00:08:20,412 --> 00:08:22,972 Speaker 2: Why do you hate children? I think it's the real. 208 00:08:23,942 --> 00:08:29,182 Speaker 3: We'll get into it. But first, John. No, I'm just kidding. 209 00:08:29,222 --> 00:08:30,142 Speaker 3: That won't be a sponsor. 210 00:08:30,202 --> 00:08:30,702 Speaker 2: It's not time. 211 00:08:30,762 --> 00:08:33,722 Speaker 3: An ad for art. It would be a great ad segue. 212 00:08:33,882 --> 00:08:34,992 Speaker 3: You know who hates children? 213 00:08:35,432 --> 00:08:36,052 Speaker 2: Sponsors. 214 00:08:37,572 --> 00:08:38,632 Speaker 3: No, it's been. 215 00:08:39,292 --> 00:08:41,832 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of how many Johnny and John 216 00:08:41,912 --> 00:08:42,912 Speaker 1: photos are going to be up there. 217 00:08:43,132 --> 00:08:44,612 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's... So there's this one. 218 00:08:44,952 --> 00:08:47,992 Speaker 3: We've been on stage many, many times together. 219 00:08:48,212 --> 00:08:49,681 Speaker 1: If you were going to pick the photos of us, 220 00:08:50,302 --> 00:08:52,502 Speaker 1: do you have any in mind? I'll see if they're 221 00:08:52,521 --> 00:08:53,381 Speaker 1: the same ones I'm thinking of. 222 00:08:54,112 --> 00:08:57,842 Speaker 3: Uh, the photo shoot we did for the band, uh, that, uh, 223 00:08:57,922 --> 00:09:02,542 Speaker 3: Becky Finley did for us. Yep. And, uh, those were great. And, 224 00:09:02,982 --> 00:09:05,662 Speaker 3: you know, we were in that era of everybody did this, 225 00:09:05,802 --> 00:09:09,192 Speaker 3: but it was like, you look so surly. Right. Because 226 00:09:09,252 --> 00:09:11,992 Speaker 3: everybody's trying to look cool. And you just look depressed. 227 00:09:12,172 --> 00:09:13,152 Speaker 2: Angry Christian band. 228 00:09:13,192 --> 00:09:13,392 Speaker 3: Yeah. 229 00:09:13,631 --> 00:09:13,811 Speaker 1: Yeah. 230 00:09:14,092 --> 00:09:15,992 Speaker 3: You're trying to look edgy. So I had my jawline 231 00:09:16,012 --> 00:09:16,352 Speaker 3: just like. 232 00:09:16,732 --> 00:09:17,922 Speaker 2: Yeah, you did look mad. 233 00:09:18,142 --> 00:09:18,352 Speaker 3: Yeah. 234 00:09:18,522 --> 00:09:21,271 Speaker 2: Like you looked... It scared me a little bit. 235 00:09:21,492 --> 00:09:23,152 Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe I was mad. 236 00:09:23,272 --> 00:09:24,512 Speaker 2: Scared away our success too. 237 00:09:24,692 --> 00:09:27,692 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sorry about that. Sorry. I don't think that was me. 238 00:09:28,072 --> 00:09:29,652 Speaker 3: I think that was, no, I don't think it was you. No, 239 00:09:29,672 --> 00:09:31,182 Speaker 3: I'm just saying like, I don't think that was my face. 240 00:09:31,232 --> 00:09:34,082 Speaker 3: It was just everything else about us. It wasn't the 241 00:09:34,122 --> 00:09:36,722 Speaker 3: way I posed her photo, but yeah, we had this guitar. 242 00:09:36,842 --> 00:09:39,702 Speaker 3: So this is my shiny, super shiny guitar and some 243 00:09:39,722 --> 00:09:41,702 Speaker 3: of those photos. And it photographs really well because the 244 00:09:41,722 --> 00:09:42,972 Speaker 3: way the light dances off of it. 245 00:09:43,182 --> 00:09:43,322 Speaker 1: Yeah. 246 00:09:43,342 --> 00:09:45,982 Speaker 3: Cause it's like a mirror finish. And so I remember 247 00:09:46,022 --> 00:09:49,311 Speaker 3: like a photo of that and we're, There's one where 248 00:09:49,352 --> 00:09:53,852 Speaker 3: we're sitting underneath like some bridge or some like sewer 249 00:09:53,922 --> 00:09:56,202 Speaker 3: pipe coming out of it. It's just very like earthy, 250 00:09:56,462 --> 00:09:57,222 Speaker 3: gritty photo. 251 00:09:57,402 --> 00:09:59,042 Speaker 2: He was on UT campus, I think, right? 252 00:09:59,062 --> 00:09:59,242 Speaker 1: Yeah. 253 00:10:00,182 --> 00:10:02,722 Speaker 3: And yeah, so I remember that photo for sure of 254 00:10:02,762 --> 00:10:03,202 Speaker 3: the band. 255 00:10:04,542 --> 00:10:07,632 Speaker 2: I have that. I actually found other band photos that 256 00:10:07,652 --> 00:10:09,212 Speaker 2: I had not seen in a long time. 257 00:10:09,332 --> 00:10:10,052 Speaker 3: Yeah. 258 00:10:10,732 --> 00:10:12,472 Speaker 2: We didn't use them, but those kinds of things. 259 00:10:12,892 --> 00:10:13,032 Speaker 4: Yeah. 260 00:10:13,192 --> 00:10:15,661 Speaker 1: And then I think I may there, I found a 261 00:10:15,712 --> 00:10:17,442 Speaker 1: shot of you. We talked about this before, but when 262 00:10:17,462 --> 00:10:20,062 Speaker 1: we're doing the five smooth stone shoot with the vegetable 263 00:10:20,102 --> 00:10:21,462 Speaker 1: soup that God, yeah. 264 00:10:22,702 --> 00:10:23,942 Speaker 2: You're just looking at the camera. 265 00:10:23,962 --> 00:10:26,262 Speaker 1: There's nothing on it with like you had glasses with 266 00:10:26,302 --> 00:10:29,772 Speaker 1: tape in the middle and you're just making the funniest faces. Yeah. 267 00:10:29,912 --> 00:10:32,072 Speaker 3: Like I may just have those on your hard drive. Yeah. 268 00:10:32,352 --> 00:10:34,852 Speaker 3: Oh wow. Oh Johnny, I have, I don't know. 269 00:10:35,112 --> 00:10:37,302 Speaker 1: I've been searching through the hard drives since we last spoke. 270 00:10:37,332 --> 00:10:39,822 Speaker 1: I've done nothing hardly but go through and try to consolidate. 271 00:10:39,842 --> 00:10:40,642 Speaker 3: Have you deleted any of these? 272 00:10:41,381 --> 00:10:42,142 Speaker 2: Hardly any, yeah. 273 00:10:42,242 --> 00:10:44,902 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying is you have them and you're 274 00:10:44,922 --> 00:10:46,822 Speaker 3: going through them, but you're not going like, well, I 275 00:10:46,842 --> 00:10:49,082 Speaker 3: got three of those or I think we get it 276 00:10:49,142 --> 00:10:51,002 Speaker 3: on that one or wow, that one's embarrassing. I want 277 00:10:51,062 --> 00:10:51,442 Speaker 3: it gone. 278 00:10:51,462 --> 00:10:54,362 Speaker 2: You're like, well, what would be the point? I mean, 279 00:10:54,381 --> 00:10:54,722 Speaker 2: I don't know. 280 00:10:54,982 --> 00:10:59,212 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm having a I'm making a catalog from 281 00:10:59,252 --> 00:11:00,272 Speaker 1: which we can search from. 282 00:11:01,972 --> 00:11:02,892 Speaker 3: From which we can search from? 283 00:11:02,912 --> 00:11:03,511 Speaker 2: Wait, from. 284 00:11:03,672 --> 00:11:04,152 Speaker 3: Too many froms. 285 00:11:04,212 --> 00:11:04,692 Speaker 2: For which. 286 00:11:04,812 --> 00:11:06,022 Speaker 3: From which we can search. Why? 287 00:11:07,772 --> 00:11:10,492 Speaker 1: I want me and you in the largest man-made hole 288 00:11:10,512 --> 00:11:11,612 Speaker 1: that we've ever dug. 289 00:11:11,812 --> 00:11:12,032 Speaker 3: Oh, right. 290 00:11:12,052 --> 00:11:15,332 Speaker 1: I remember that one for sure. That's the, what, 14 foot, 291 00:11:15,332 --> 00:11:19,412 Speaker 1: 15 foot latrine we dug on the mountain in Panama. 292 00:11:19,672 --> 00:11:19,892 Speaker 3: Yeah. 293 00:11:20,552 --> 00:11:20,912 Speaker 2: That one. 294 00:11:21,432 --> 00:11:21,652 Speaker 3: Yeah. 295 00:11:22,131 --> 00:11:22,752 Speaker 2: And then I. 296 00:11:25,112 --> 00:11:27,191 Speaker 1: Want a Morton Chet. So Johnny and I used to 297 00:11:27,212 --> 00:11:30,352 Speaker 1: do two characters for these videos every year. I was 298 00:11:30,372 --> 00:11:30,952 Speaker 1: Chet Simpson. 299 00:11:30,992 --> 00:11:31,982 Speaker 2: He was Mort Wellington. 300 00:11:32,262 --> 00:11:32,482 Speaker 3: Yeah. 301 00:11:33,362 --> 00:11:36,421 Speaker 1: And I have several. I found the raw footage. 302 00:11:36,162 --> 00:11:37,042 Speaker 2: Of Mort and Chet. 303 00:11:37,922 --> 00:11:40,002 Speaker 3: Oh, really? The unedited? 304 00:11:40,142 --> 00:11:43,222 Speaker 1: Yeah. Where we're up there and Andrew's shouting stuff at us. 305 00:11:43,362 --> 00:11:46,332 Speaker 1: And Jeffrey's coming up on the lift outside the thing. 306 00:11:46,372 --> 00:11:46,992 Speaker 3: Oh, wow. 307 00:11:47,332 --> 00:11:50,312 Speaker 2: But I have those. That's funny. Just our funny stuff there. 308 00:11:51,592 --> 00:11:54,011 Speaker 2: And yeah, a couple funny. I want the city song. 309 00:11:54,662 --> 00:11:56,942 Speaker 1: We wrote a song for the city of Mount Juliet 310 00:11:57,122 --> 00:11:58,401 Speaker 1: when they did a 10-year census. 311 00:11:58,742 --> 00:12:02,242 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was 2007. Was it? Yeah, 2008 maybe. I 312 00:12:03,402 --> 00:12:04,642 Speaker 3: thought it was 10. 313 00:12:04,642 --> 00:12:06,322 Speaker 2: Was it at the 10s? 314 00:12:06,642 --> 00:12:06,932 Speaker 3: Was it? 315 00:12:07,502 --> 00:12:07,862 Speaker 2: Maybe not. 316 00:12:07,881 --> 00:12:09,342 Speaker 3: No, it was 2000, because I had been doing comedy then. 317 00:12:09,402 --> 00:12:10,401 Speaker 3: I wasn't doing stand-up yet. 318 00:12:10,622 --> 00:12:13,322 Speaker 1: But we made fun of everything about the census, including 319 00:12:13,362 --> 00:12:15,122 Speaker 1: their ugly yellow shirts. Yeah. 320 00:12:15,222 --> 00:12:16,582 Speaker 2: And they loved it so much, they brought us in 321 00:12:16,602 --> 00:12:17,602 Speaker 2: the city hall. 322 00:12:17,322 --> 00:12:19,272 Speaker 3: To perform it. Yeah, we wrote a parody to the 323 00:12:19,292 --> 00:12:24,462 Speaker 3: theme of Cheers, and it was about we got to 324 00:12:24,502 --> 00:12:26,742 Speaker 3: know your name instead of you want to go where 325 00:12:26,762 --> 00:12:30,072 Speaker 3: everybody knows your name. We got to know your name. Yeah. 326 00:12:30,082 --> 00:12:32,072 Speaker 3: And it was, and then they brought them, they, we 327 00:12:32,082 --> 00:12:33,872 Speaker 3: did it at church and somebody saw it on our 328 00:12:33,932 --> 00:12:36,492 Speaker 3: live stream and they invited us to the city hall 329 00:12:36,512 --> 00:12:39,572 Speaker 3: for their city hall. What a council meeting to do 330 00:12:39,612 --> 00:12:42,452 Speaker 3: that song. Yeah. And I think I remember starting it 331 00:12:42,492 --> 00:12:44,592 Speaker 3: by saying like, Hey, I would like before we start 332 00:12:44,792 --> 00:12:48,552 Speaker 3: to announce my candidacy for mayor of Mount Juliet. And 333 00:12:48,612 --> 00:12:50,992 Speaker 3: I thought it'd be really funny. And some people laugh nervously. 334 00:12:51,112 --> 00:12:53,192 Speaker 3: And then one guy goes, Well, I think that just 335 00:12:53,212 --> 00:12:55,421 Speaker 3: broke every protocol or whatever. Like they were like seriously 336 00:12:55,452 --> 00:12:57,302 Speaker 3: like put off by it. Oh, wow. Because I was like, 337 00:12:57,322 --> 00:13:00,541 Speaker 3: all right, well, we're off on the right foot. I 338 00:13:00,582 --> 00:13:02,102 Speaker 3: have upset the apple cart. 339 00:13:03,122 --> 00:13:04,022 Speaker 2: You know what I would kill for? 340 00:13:04,042 --> 00:13:04,682 Speaker 3: What's that? 341 00:13:04,702 --> 00:13:06,162 Speaker 2: A picture of that first half marathon. 342 00:13:06,782 --> 00:13:07,242 Speaker 3: Oh, right. 343 00:13:07,262 --> 00:13:09,002 Speaker 2: We don't have, I don't know if you have anything. 344 00:13:09,122 --> 00:13:11,412 Speaker 3: No. Well, back then we didn't have camera phones. 345 00:13:11,432 --> 00:13:12,151 Speaker 2: We didn't take pictures. 346 00:13:12,392 --> 00:13:12,612 Speaker 1: Yeah. 347 00:13:12,652 --> 00:13:14,292 Speaker 2: You just carry a camera with you everywhere you went. 348 00:13:14,312 --> 00:13:15,472 Speaker 3: Yeah. 349 00:13:15,752 --> 00:13:17,651 Speaker 1: Because I think it's like, it's like up to 04, 05, 350 00:13:17,652 --> 00:13:21,432 Speaker 1: all of a sudden the pictures just, they just start. 351 00:13:21,842 --> 00:13:25,131 Speaker 2: Multiplying Johnny so it's maybe. 352 00:13:24,972 --> 00:13:31,372 Speaker 3: It's you think it's contributing to narcissism yes okay like 353 00:13:31,412 --> 00:13:34,392 Speaker 3: your personal narcissism oh yeah I don't think I was 354 00:13:34,412 --> 00:13:36,732 Speaker 3: meant to see myself this much yeah maybe that is 355 00:13:36,752 --> 00:13:38,032 Speaker 3: it you know what I'm saying as far as like 356 00:13:38,072 --> 00:13:40,352 Speaker 3: how we view ourselves we're always aware of how we're 357 00:13:40,372 --> 00:13:42,852 Speaker 3: being seen yeah because. 358 00:13:43,012 --> 00:13:45,631 Speaker 2: I notice my flaws I notice my crooked tooth it's. 359 00:13:45,592 --> 00:13:46,992 Speaker 3: Like the opposite of Beauty and the Beast because Beauty 360 00:13:47,012 --> 00:13:49,062 Speaker 3: and the Beast he took all the mirrors out yeah 361 00:13:49,732 --> 00:13:51,982 Speaker 3: we added mirrors basically we added mirrors And we're. 362 00:13:51,872 --> 00:13:54,541 Speaker 2: Still the beast, Johnny. Come on. Want that, though? 363 00:13:54,742 --> 00:13:55,082 Speaker 3: Whoa. 364 00:13:55,642 --> 00:13:56,402 Speaker 2: I think it just did. 365 00:13:56,462 --> 00:13:58,442 Speaker 3: You stab it with your steely knives, but you just 366 00:13:58,522 --> 00:13:59,942 Speaker 3: can't kill the beast. 367 00:14:01,002 --> 00:14:02,492 Speaker 2: Guys, you can check out anytime you want. 368 00:14:03,032 --> 00:14:05,572 Speaker 3: Hey, here's some stuff we want you to check out. 369 00:14:05,592 --> 00:14:09,652 Speaker 3: A word from a few of our fine sponsors. That's 370 00:14:09,672 --> 00:14:10,422 Speaker 3: how you do a Segway, Johnny. 371 00:14:19,832 --> 00:14:20,982 Speaker 2: Yes, true professionalism. 372 00:14:21,002 --> 00:14:21,442 Speaker 4: See? 373 00:14:21,522 --> 00:14:21,862 Speaker 1: For sure. 374 00:14:21,902 --> 00:14:23,042 Speaker 3: I was waiting for a moment. 375 00:14:23,622 --> 00:14:23,842 Speaker 1: Yeah. 376 00:14:24,122 --> 00:14:27,522 Speaker 3: And I used Hotel California. 377 00:14:27,892 --> 00:14:28,222 Speaker 2: That was good. 378 00:14:28,312 --> 00:14:28,872 Speaker 3: Not a sponsor. 379 00:14:29,072 --> 00:14:29,852 Speaker 2: Hey, Johnny, it's about that time. 380 00:14:30,072 --> 00:14:32,432 Speaker 1: Oh. It's my Quote of the Week segment. It's called 381 00:14:32,452 --> 00:14:33,832 Speaker 1: They Talked About That. 382 00:14:33,852 --> 00:14:35,332 Speaker 3: Oh. 383 00:14:48,862 --> 00:14:49,372 Speaker 2: Nailed it. 384 00:14:50,672 --> 00:14:52,352 Speaker 3: Don't lose that take. 385 00:14:52,812 --> 00:14:55,412 Speaker 1: It's a little longer, but it's Dallas Willard. This really 386 00:14:55,452 --> 00:14:58,492 Speaker 1: struck me. I can't remember where. 387 00:14:58,352 --> 00:15:00,912 Speaker 2: I shared this, but I asked you if it was 388 00:15:00,932 --> 00:15:02,282 Speaker 2: already on the podcast and you said no. 389 00:15:02,442 --> 00:15:03,642 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't remember. I'm not from the last 390 00:15:03,662 --> 00:15:04,342 Speaker 3: few weeks anyway. 391 00:15:04,362 --> 00:15:04,442 Speaker 1: Okay. 392 00:15:04,462 --> 00:15:04,582 Speaker 3: Okay. 393 00:15:06,102 --> 00:15:09,542 Speaker 1: He says, a contemporary word of Jesus's comparison of God's 394 00:15:09,582 --> 00:15:12,482 Speaker 1: kind of love, agape, and what normally passes for love 395 00:15:12,582 --> 00:15:14,702 Speaker 1: might be, quote, this is from Sermon on the Mount. 396 00:15:15,672 --> 00:15:17,492 Speaker 1: What's so great if you love those who love you? 397 00:15:17,512 --> 00:15:22,072 Speaker 1: Terrorists do that. And if that's all your love amounts to, 398 00:15:22,152 --> 00:15:25,112 Speaker 1: God certainly is not involved. Or suppose you're friendly to, quote, 399 00:15:25,372 --> 00:15:28,262 Speaker 1: our kind of people. So is the mafia, Matthew 5, 400 00:15:28,262 --> 00:15:31,822 Speaker 1: 46 through 47. Now reflect, has your heart gone out 401 00:15:31,862 --> 00:15:35,022 Speaker 1: in generous blessing to someone who has insulted or humiliated you? 402 00:15:35,662 --> 00:15:38,102 Speaker 1: Can you work without thought of gain for the well-being 403 00:15:38,202 --> 00:15:41,082 Speaker 1: of someone who openly despises you, maybe who has told 404 00:15:41,122 --> 00:15:44,082 Speaker 1: you to drop dead? Are you enthusiastically pulling for the 405 00:15:44,122 --> 00:15:47,282 Speaker 1: success of someone competing with you for favor, position, or 406 00:15:47,342 --> 00:15:51,152 Speaker 1: financial gain? That is what those possessed and permeated by 407 00:15:51,212 --> 00:15:55,632 Speaker 1: God's kind of love find themselves doing. So, I mean, 408 00:15:55,672 --> 00:15:58,452 Speaker 1: this is when, you know, he says, so what if 409 00:15:58,472 --> 00:16:01,052 Speaker 1: you love your family, then the wicked do that, right? 410 00:16:01,452 --> 00:16:03,492 Speaker 1: And so he's just saying, yeah, let's put it in 411 00:16:03,512 --> 00:16:06,042 Speaker 1: the modern terms, the mafia or terrorists or whoever. I mean, 412 00:16:07,122 --> 00:16:11,502 Speaker 1: I think that there is a there's a lot of 413 00:16:11,582 --> 00:16:14,462 Speaker 1: talk right now about what loving your neighbor means. 414 00:16:14,502 --> 00:16:16,432 Speaker 2: We talked about that, I think, a few weeks back. 415 00:16:17,252 --> 00:16:19,252 Speaker 1: But I think once again, he's going into the heart 416 00:16:19,572 --> 00:16:23,012 Speaker 1: of how do you evaluate the love of Christ versus 417 00:16:23,052 --> 00:16:23,832 Speaker 1: the love of the world? 418 00:16:24,832 --> 00:16:26,792 Speaker 2: Because I do believe we all have this. 419 00:16:26,692 --> 00:16:32,002 Speaker 1: Inherited part of our being, whether we believe in God or. 420 00:16:32,022 --> 00:16:34,622 Speaker 2: Confess Jesus as Lord or any of those things. 421 00:16:34,682 --> 00:16:39,122 Speaker 1: We have this inherited nature from God that expects good 422 00:16:39,182 --> 00:16:43,282 Speaker 1: things and We we somehow still say stay in general 423 00:16:43,322 --> 00:16:45,182 Speaker 1: within some sort of nuclear. 424 00:16:46,562 --> 00:16:47,742 Speaker 2: Circle of relationships. 425 00:16:47,802 --> 00:16:48,202 Speaker 3: Right. 426 00:16:48,302 --> 00:16:48,822 Speaker 2: And so. 427 00:16:51,262 --> 00:16:53,172 Speaker 1: He's saying that I think we forget this, that the 428 00:16:53,212 --> 00:16:55,931 Speaker 1: love of Christ is actually really radical and profound. 429 00:16:55,952 --> 00:16:56,272 Speaker 3: Yeah. 430 00:16:56,372 --> 00:16:59,392 Speaker 1: And it can be in Jesus was not ambiguous about this. 431 00:17:00,322 --> 00:17:03,982 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we really are acting very confused sometimes. 432 00:17:04,002 --> 00:17:05,702 Speaker 3: Yeah. We're playing the fool. Yeah. 433 00:17:06,081 --> 00:17:08,072 Speaker 2: Like this is like almost all he talked about. 434 00:17:08,092 --> 00:17:08,592 Speaker 3: Yeah. 435 00:17:08,952 --> 00:17:10,292 Speaker 2: You know, this is the main thing. 436 00:17:10,492 --> 00:17:12,272 Speaker 3: He was like, it's good to have your circles and 437 00:17:12,351 --> 00:17:14,792 Speaker 3: this extends outside of your circles. Right. If it's really, 438 00:17:14,912 --> 00:17:17,012 Speaker 3: if it's really real, it's going to extend outside of 439 00:17:17,052 --> 00:17:17,452 Speaker 3: your circle. 440 00:17:17,472 --> 00:17:20,192 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I've told the church on plenty of occasions, 441 00:17:20,932 --> 00:17:23,492 Speaker 1: like the thing that makes someone who believes in Jesus 442 00:17:23,592 --> 00:17:26,252 Speaker 1: different is supposed to make us different than the rest 443 00:17:26,272 --> 00:17:28,902 Speaker 1: of the world is the way we love our enemies. 444 00:17:28,922 --> 00:17:29,112 Speaker 3: Right. 445 00:17:30,072 --> 00:17:32,532 Speaker 1: It's the way that we love others as Christ loves us, 446 00:17:32,672 --> 00:17:34,892 Speaker 1: and we were his enemies. I mean, this is the scripture. 447 00:17:34,952 --> 00:17:37,912 Speaker 1: So you take all the things. Love your neighbor as yourself. 448 00:17:38,371 --> 00:17:39,912 Speaker 1: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, 449 00:17:39,972 --> 00:17:42,411 Speaker 1: and strength, all those things. Love one another as I 450 00:17:42,452 --> 00:17:46,952 Speaker 1: have loved you. Love and bless your enemies, right? Pray 451 00:17:46,992 --> 00:17:49,442 Speaker 1: for them who spitefully use you and persecute you. You 452 00:17:49,502 --> 00:17:51,922 Speaker 1: put these things together. Don't just think of them as enemies. 453 00:17:52,402 --> 00:17:56,322 Speaker 1: You know, just one-offs or isolated statements, proverbial statements of 454 00:17:56,362 --> 00:17:59,342 Speaker 1: a wise man. And understand that these are the basis 455 00:18:00,322 --> 00:18:04,242 Speaker 1: of the theology. And I hate to use that sort 456 00:18:04,282 --> 00:18:07,241 Speaker 1: of cryptic term about it because it takes all the 457 00:18:07,302 --> 00:18:07,972 Speaker 1: life out of it. 458 00:18:08,442 --> 00:18:10,982 Speaker 2: This is the basis of the life in Christ. Think 459 00:18:11,022 --> 00:18:11,241 Speaker 2: about it. 460 00:18:11,262 --> 00:18:13,442 Speaker 1: Jesus did all of that. He loved God with everything 461 00:18:13,482 --> 00:18:15,932 Speaker 1: he had. He loved us more than he loved himself. 462 00:18:16,851 --> 00:18:20,292 Speaker 1: Then he taught, he loved us as the Father loved him, 463 00:18:20,512 --> 00:18:21,972 Speaker 1: which is what he was passing on to the disciples. 464 00:18:22,012 --> 00:18:24,062 Speaker 2: He said, love each other as I have loved you. 465 00:18:24,081 --> 00:18:26,561 Speaker 1: And then he loved his enemies to the point of 466 00:18:26,601 --> 00:18:29,722 Speaker 1: forgiving them on the cross. And I think that when 467 00:18:29,782 --> 00:18:32,741 Speaker 1: we say the gospel is wrapped up in love or 468 00:18:32,762 --> 00:18:36,602 Speaker 1: you can't have a gospel without love, we're usually talking 469 00:18:36,661 --> 00:18:41,102 Speaker 1: about an earthly definition. And Jesus was an earthly definition 470 00:18:41,141 --> 00:18:42,682 Speaker 1: as well because the kingdom of God came to earth. 471 00:18:43,382 --> 00:18:44,882 Speaker 1: But we're not thinking of it in terms of the 472 00:18:44,922 --> 00:18:47,222 Speaker 1: way that he said it. And so it's easy to go, oh, yeah, 473 00:18:47,242 --> 00:18:49,782 Speaker 1: you're just sure, sure, love people. But as long as 474 00:18:49,822 --> 00:18:51,582 Speaker 1: I love my family, as long as I love those 475 00:18:51,621 --> 00:18:53,962 Speaker 1: in my circle. And yes, I don't want to wish 476 00:18:54,022 --> 00:18:57,542 Speaker 1: harm on people. But and so I think the point 477 00:18:57,561 --> 00:19:00,272 Speaker 1: of all this is, is you can't do this. There's 478 00:19:00,311 --> 00:19:03,132 Speaker 1: a reason that we default back to the worldly love. Yeah, 479 00:19:03,212 --> 00:19:07,352 Speaker 1: because you can't do this unless, as he said, you're 480 00:19:07,371 --> 00:19:11,472 Speaker 1: being possessed and permeated by God's kind of love. inside 481 00:19:11,512 --> 00:19:14,422 Speaker 1: of you, something is being transformed or being formed into 482 00:19:14,482 --> 00:19:17,242 Speaker 1: something different. And so I just, you know, for me, man, 483 00:19:17,262 --> 00:19:19,342 Speaker 1: I asked that question, has my heart gone out in 484 00:19:19,482 --> 00:19:23,362 Speaker 1: generous blessing to someone who has insulted or humiliated me? 485 00:19:23,911 --> 00:19:26,451 Speaker 2: And I love that. Has my heart gone out? 486 00:19:26,792 --> 00:19:29,212 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like there was someone today I thought of and 487 00:19:29,232 --> 00:19:31,712 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, my heart is not in the 488 00:19:31,792 --> 00:19:35,972 Speaker 1: best place towards that person, but in Christ, right? The 489 00:19:36,032 --> 00:19:40,131 Speaker 1: spirit reminds me, that I can bless them, pray for them, 490 00:19:40,411 --> 00:19:42,511 Speaker 1: pray for good things for them, that I don't have 491 00:19:42,532 --> 00:19:45,792 Speaker 1: to sit here in the justice of it all. Because 492 00:19:46,572 --> 00:19:49,862 Speaker 1: I could be right in the equation, but being right 493 00:19:49,882 --> 00:19:50,311 Speaker 1: before God. 494 00:19:50,342 --> 00:19:52,002 Speaker 3: Is this person in the room with you? 495 00:19:52,161 --> 00:19:54,802 Speaker 2: There may be a green light shining on them right now. 496 00:19:56,022 --> 00:19:57,682 Speaker 3: No, but I agree with you about the first part 497 00:19:57,722 --> 00:20:01,002 Speaker 3: about if you only love people that love you, that's 498 00:20:01,081 --> 00:20:03,961 Speaker 3: not what we're talking about. It's important to make that 499 00:20:03,982 --> 00:20:09,162 Speaker 3: distinction because like Norm Macdonald, who's on my Mount Rushmore 500 00:20:09,202 --> 00:20:12,522 Speaker 3: of comedians. I think he's just one of the best ever. And, 501 00:20:13,641 --> 00:20:15,661 Speaker 3: but he had a special called Hitler's dog. And it 502 00:20:15,681 --> 00:20:19,621 Speaker 3: was basically like, even Hitler's dog loved him. Hitler had 503 00:20:19,641 --> 00:20:21,362 Speaker 3: a dog that loved him. You know what I'm saying? 504 00:20:21,402 --> 00:20:24,582 Speaker 3: Like this idea of just like things that we don't 505 00:20:24,601 --> 00:20:28,381 Speaker 3: think are normal that like evil people had. these same 506 00:20:28,561 --> 00:20:30,921 Speaker 3: they have family that goes well if you knew Hitler 507 00:20:30,942 --> 00:20:33,742 Speaker 3: like I know Hitler you know what people so but 508 00:20:33,942 --> 00:20:36,362 Speaker 3: our love is in danger if we're not careful of 509 00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:40,792 Speaker 3: just being super transactional and it's like yeah I love 510 00:20:40,831 --> 00:20:43,592 Speaker 3: you to the point that you inconvenience me and then 511 00:20:43,632 --> 00:20:47,812 Speaker 3: that love is very conditional and so That's not real. 512 00:20:49,351 --> 00:20:52,211 Speaker 3: Like you said, it's just an earthly version. And it 513 00:20:52,252 --> 00:20:55,841 Speaker 3: has these limitations that cause suffering, basically. When they reach 514 00:20:55,862 --> 00:21:02,181 Speaker 3: their limitations, that's where the suffering takes over. But yeah, 515 00:21:02,262 --> 00:21:05,042 Speaker 3: I think about myself. Like you said, I have people 516 00:21:05,081 --> 00:21:08,361 Speaker 3: that I'm maybe at odds with or have certain ways 517 00:21:08,402 --> 00:21:10,042 Speaker 3: of thinking about them. But am I praying for them? 518 00:21:10,081 --> 00:21:12,962 Speaker 3: Am I extending my heart to them? It's hard. It's 519 00:21:12,982 --> 00:21:15,162 Speaker 3: hard work. And a lot of people are not willing 520 00:21:15,181 --> 00:21:15,742 Speaker 3: to put in that work. 521 00:21:16,702 --> 00:21:19,942 Speaker 1: But this is what's crazy, and I do say this 522 00:21:20,002 --> 00:21:24,161 Speaker 1: a lot over the years to the church. Whatever it 523 00:21:24,222 --> 00:21:26,781 Speaker 1: is we think the work of being a Christ follower is. 524 00:21:28,202 --> 00:21:28,962 Speaker 2: This is it. 525 00:21:30,382 --> 00:21:34,682 Speaker 1: So we're doing something else we consider to be hard work. 526 00:21:34,722 --> 00:21:36,202 Speaker 2: We're working at something. 527 00:21:36,681 --> 00:21:41,042 Speaker 1: If it's not this, then at best we're not at 528 00:21:41,092 --> 00:21:42,562 Speaker 1: the center of the bullseye. 529 00:21:43,152 --> 00:21:45,292 Speaker 2: We're somewhere on the outer rings of this thing. 530 00:21:45,851 --> 00:21:48,032 Speaker 1: Like if for some reason, because I always tell them, like, look, 531 00:21:48,141 --> 00:21:51,441 Speaker 1: if people want to know, just like the rich young ruler, 532 00:21:51,502 --> 00:21:52,261 Speaker 1: what do I got to do, right? 533 00:21:52,282 --> 00:21:53,242 Speaker 2: What do I got to do to get to heaven? 534 00:21:53,262 --> 00:21:53,671 Speaker 3: What do I got to do? 535 00:21:53,882 --> 00:21:57,322 Speaker 1: Right. And it's like, I think, I always tell them, 536 00:21:57,362 --> 00:22:02,551 Speaker 1: if you spend your life trying to be authentic and 537 00:22:02,672 --> 00:22:06,951 Speaker 1: in confession and pursuing one another, because we're in a 538 00:22:06,972 --> 00:22:12,212 Speaker 1: group together and it's constant need to regroup. And go, okay, well, guys, 539 00:22:12,252 --> 00:22:14,652 Speaker 1: none of us texted this week. You know, what are 540 00:22:14,672 --> 00:22:15,851 Speaker 1: we going to do this week now? You got to 541 00:22:16,072 --> 00:22:19,392 Speaker 1: keep picking up from what feels like failure and keep going. 542 00:22:19,472 --> 00:22:19,852 Speaker 2: Same thing. 543 00:22:19,911 --> 00:22:22,811 Speaker 1: And I have to confess sins all the time of 544 00:22:22,851 --> 00:22:24,952 Speaker 1: things I've been confessing my whole life that I'm still, 545 00:22:25,052 --> 00:22:25,571 Speaker 1: I'm better. 546 00:22:26,052 --> 00:22:27,191 Speaker 2: And there's seasons I'm not. 547 00:22:27,891 --> 00:22:33,252 Speaker 1: And above all, choosing to love someone else whenever I 548 00:22:33,292 --> 00:22:33,741 Speaker 1: have all the. 549 00:22:33,722 --> 00:22:36,142 Speaker 2: Reasons not to. If I do all of these things, 550 00:22:36,242 --> 00:22:38,442 Speaker 2: it will keep me busy doing the right things. I 551 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:41,311 Speaker 2: won't have time. to be elsewhere. 552 00:22:41,452 --> 00:22:43,172 Speaker 1: And if I find I have ample time to be 553 00:22:43,252 --> 00:22:47,592 Speaker 1: elsewhere amount around other quote unquote Christian, uh, pursuits that 554 00:22:47,831 --> 00:22:51,572 Speaker 1: aren't at least built upon this, then I don't think 555 00:22:51,592 --> 00:22:53,451 Speaker 1: I can do both. I think, I think you have 556 00:22:53,492 --> 00:22:56,962 Speaker 1: to choose. I can't, I can't be an angry militant 557 00:22:57,362 --> 00:23:01,302 Speaker 1: Christian and be doing this. Like I can't, there's no 558 00:23:01,362 --> 00:23:04,161 Speaker 1: way you can do both of those things. Um, and 559 00:23:04,322 --> 00:23:07,442 Speaker 1: I have to decide, um, Every day. There were some 560 00:23:07,462 --> 00:23:09,962 Speaker 1: days I feel like the angry militant Christian, right? But 561 00:23:10,342 --> 00:23:12,022 Speaker 1: I think that's the life in Christ is being called 562 00:23:12,061 --> 00:23:14,922 Speaker 1: back to this. I want to, again, be permeated by 563 00:23:14,982 --> 00:23:15,802 Speaker 1: God's kind of love. 564 00:23:15,822 --> 00:23:16,702 Speaker 2: So anyway, just interesting. 565 00:23:16,722 --> 00:23:19,311 Speaker 3: Well, I'm rooting for you. I think you can get there, 566 00:23:19,792 --> 00:23:22,812 Speaker 3: but you're not there yet. And let's keep working. John, 567 00:23:22,851 --> 00:23:25,512 Speaker 3: let's do my segments. Let's start with Johnny's old jokes. 568 00:23:25,532 --> 00:23:26,571 Speaker 3: We call it joke about that. 569 00:23:28,552 --> 00:23:31,312 Speaker 2: Okay. 570 00:23:32,532 --> 00:23:34,331 Speaker 3: John, a man walks into the doctor's office with a 571 00:23:34,351 --> 00:23:36,012 Speaker 3: hot dog in his ear and a stalk of celery 572 00:23:36,052 --> 00:23:38,052 Speaker 3: up his nose and says, Doc, what's wrong with me? 573 00:23:38,072 --> 00:23:44,021 Speaker 3: And the doctor says, You're not eating properly. Let's move forward. 574 00:23:44,042 --> 00:23:45,242 Speaker 3: This week in history, John. 575 00:23:45,262 --> 00:23:46,102 Speaker 2: Oh, that was quick. 576 00:23:46,161 --> 00:23:57,292 Speaker 3: We call it Talk About Then. John Albert Einstein was born. 577 00:23:57,311 --> 00:23:58,951 Speaker 2: Guys, you're not eating properly. Sorry, go ahead. 578 00:23:59,072 --> 00:24:04,332 Speaker 3: John Albert Einstein was born this week in 1879. Wow. 579 00:24:05,032 --> 00:24:09,652 Speaker 3: He was a German-born American, Nobel-winning physicist and mathematician. What 580 00:24:09,672 --> 00:24:11,792 Speaker 3: do you know about Einstein? When I say Einstein, what 581 00:24:11,811 --> 00:24:13,192 Speaker 3: do you think immediately? Like, give me your. 582 00:24:13,952 --> 00:24:14,772 Speaker 2: Theory of relativity? 583 00:24:14,792 --> 00:24:16,091 Speaker 3: Theory of relativity. But what does that mean? 584 00:24:16,232 --> 00:24:16,832 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 585 00:24:17,351 --> 00:24:18,332 Speaker 3: Really? You don't even know? 586 00:24:18,371 --> 00:24:19,352 Speaker 2: Did he do string theory? 587 00:24:19,371 --> 00:24:23,341 Speaker 3: I don't know. Wasn't that... Who did string theory? 588 00:24:23,492 --> 00:24:26,151 Speaker 2: I think that was Sheldon from... Big bang theory. 589 00:24:26,572 --> 00:24:26,921 Speaker 1: No, I. 590 00:24:27,112 --> 00:24:30,222 Speaker 3: It was... I don't know what string theory is, but yeah. 591 00:24:31,681 --> 00:24:33,242 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what he did, John. He was a 592 00:24:33,282 --> 00:24:36,822 Speaker 3: Nobel winning physicist and mathematician. He developed the theory of relativity, 593 00:24:36,842 --> 00:24:42,472 Speaker 3: so you're right about that. He also developed mass equivalence formula. 594 00:24:42,732 --> 00:24:43,752 Speaker 2: Oh, I use that a lot. 595 00:24:44,032 --> 00:24:45,351 Speaker 3: E equals MC squared. 596 00:24:45,752 --> 00:24:46,872 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do know that. 597 00:24:46,911 --> 00:24:48,271 Speaker 3: That's energy equals. 598 00:24:48,512 --> 00:24:51,361 Speaker 2: Mass times C squared. 599 00:24:52,822 --> 00:24:55,562 Speaker 3: Man, we're dumb people. We're going to get some letters 600 00:24:55,601 --> 00:24:55,972 Speaker 3: from this one. 601 00:24:55,982 --> 00:24:59,112 Speaker 2: What is C? Circumference? That can't be right. No, because 602 00:24:59,132 --> 00:24:59,992 Speaker 2: we're in a mess. 603 00:25:01,132 --> 00:25:04,012 Speaker 3: See, I don't know. By the age of 26, John, 604 00:25:04,032 --> 00:25:06,232 Speaker 3: by the age of 26, think about how old you 605 00:25:06,331 --> 00:25:09,372 Speaker 3: are and what you've accomplished. Well. Let's just go there. 606 00:25:09,391 --> 00:25:11,902 Speaker 3: I don't want to make this about you versus Einstein, 607 00:25:11,942 --> 00:25:13,182 Speaker 3: but you're no Einstein. 608 00:25:13,242 --> 00:25:13,402 Speaker 1: No. 609 00:25:14,141 --> 00:25:16,982 Speaker 3: It's interesting that You call somebody Einstein when you mean 610 00:25:17,002 --> 00:25:17,542 Speaker 3: they're a dummy. 611 00:25:17,702 --> 00:25:17,922 Speaker 2: Right. 612 00:25:17,982 --> 00:25:19,982 Speaker 3: Like it's always as a particular, like, okay, Einstein. 613 00:25:20,042 --> 00:25:21,222 Speaker 2: Where's your phone, Einstein? 614 00:25:21,262 --> 00:25:22,202 Speaker 3: I think that's a Gaffigan bit. 615 00:25:22,282 --> 00:25:22,502 Speaker 1: Okay. 616 00:25:22,522 --> 00:25:26,362 Speaker 3: By the age of 26, he had published four groundbreaking papers. Wow. 617 00:25:26,382 --> 00:25:30,152 Speaker 3: Photoelectric effect, Brownian motion, which I don't know what that 618 00:25:30,192 --> 00:25:33,972 Speaker 3: is either, special relativity, and the equivalence of mass and energy. 619 00:25:34,931 --> 00:25:38,552 Speaker 3: He would go on to publish more than 300 scientific papers. 620 00:25:39,092 --> 00:25:40,471 Speaker 3: He was visiting the, I didn't know this about it, 621 00:25:41,012 --> 00:25:42,992 Speaker 3: but I guess it makes sense. He was visiting the U.S. 622 00:25:43,012 --> 00:25:46,142 Speaker 3: when Adolf Hitler came to power in 33. Being Jewish, 623 00:25:46,202 --> 00:25:47,982 Speaker 3: he did not want to return to Germany, and so 624 00:25:48,002 --> 00:25:49,742 Speaker 3: that's why eventually he became a U.S. citizen. 625 00:25:49,942 --> 00:25:51,022 Speaker 2: That was a well-timed trip. 626 00:25:51,161 --> 00:25:54,832 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, buddy. His quote, this is a quote from him. 627 00:25:54,842 --> 00:25:58,122 Speaker 3: There are many quotes, obviously, of Einstein. I've never heard 628 00:25:58,141 --> 00:26:00,302 Speaker 3: this one, so I thought it would include it. Two 629 00:26:00,342 --> 00:26:03,772 Speaker 3: things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm 630 00:26:03,811 --> 00:26:10,831 Speaker 3: not sure about the universe. That's great. That's almost like Twain. 631 00:26:10,851 --> 00:26:13,871 Speaker 3: It is. It's like if Twain was Einstein. 632 00:26:14,032 --> 00:26:15,092 Speaker 2: Yeah, always. 633 00:26:16,081 --> 00:26:18,442 Speaker 1: When I think of Einstein, I think about, I haven't 634 00:26:18,652 --> 00:26:21,772 Speaker 1: researched this, but everyone always says that he did really 635 00:26:21,792 --> 00:26:24,792 Speaker 1: poorly in school as a kid, in grade school, and 636 00:26:24,831 --> 00:26:25,771 Speaker 1: was considered almost. 637 00:26:25,612 --> 00:26:26,532 Speaker 3: Like a dunce in the class. I think that was 638 00:26:26,572 --> 00:26:27,911 Speaker 3: a myth, right? I don't know. I think that was 639 00:26:27,931 --> 00:26:28,052 Speaker 3: a myth. 640 00:26:28,072 --> 00:26:29,392 Speaker 2: Almost like he was neurodivergent. 641 00:26:29,732 --> 00:26:32,532 Speaker 3: Maybe. And I think that's a myth, too, because I've 642 00:26:32,581 --> 00:26:36,141 Speaker 3: read that before. He had great grades. And then I've 643 00:26:36,402 --> 00:26:39,302 Speaker 3: seen it with Jordan, too, right? Michael Jordan, he got 644 00:26:39,362 --> 00:26:43,322 Speaker 3: cut from his high school team. And that's when he 645 00:26:43,362 --> 00:26:45,021 Speaker 3: was like, blah, blah, blah. And I've heard that was like, 646 00:26:45,202 --> 00:26:48,862 Speaker 3: it's a very exaggerated story because he still played on 647 00:26:48,902 --> 00:26:50,542 Speaker 3: like his junior high team. He just didn't get to 648 00:26:50,581 --> 00:26:53,252 Speaker 3: play varsity in his ninth grade year or something like that. 649 00:26:54,032 --> 00:26:56,672 Speaker 1: It says Albert Einstein did struggle in school, particularly with 650 00:26:56,732 --> 00:27:00,331 Speaker 1: rigid curriculums. He dropped out at 15 and decided to 651 00:27:00,391 --> 00:27:02,992 Speaker 1: educate himself at 16 and took a college entrance exam, 652 00:27:03,371 --> 00:27:07,532 Speaker 1: passing math and science, but failing language and history. Despite rumors, 653 00:27:07,732 --> 00:27:08,932 Speaker 1: Einstein never failed math. 654 00:27:08,952 --> 00:27:10,331 Speaker 2: That's what you were probably hearing. 655 00:27:10,391 --> 00:27:12,411 Speaker 1: He was a brilliant mathematician and excelled in school from 656 00:27:12,431 --> 00:27:14,811 Speaker 1: an early age. But he did drop out at 15. 657 00:27:14,811 --> 00:27:18,912 Speaker 3: He had that big noggin. We can link brain size 658 00:27:19,112 --> 00:27:22,252 Speaker 3: to intelligence or intelligence quotient now. 659 00:27:22,351 --> 00:27:22,772 Speaker 2: Really? 660 00:27:22,792 --> 00:27:26,591 Speaker 3: There are studies about that. P-brain, that really is the thing. 661 00:27:26,851 --> 00:27:31,772 Speaker 3: People with huge brains generally have propensity. It's not guaranteed, 662 00:27:31,792 --> 00:27:33,552 Speaker 3: but propensity to be smarter. 663 00:27:34,022 --> 00:27:35,782 Speaker 2: When they have like a dearth of knowledge, that's what 664 00:27:35,802 --> 00:27:36,162 Speaker 2: you're saying. 665 00:27:36,181 --> 00:27:36,762 Speaker 3: That's what. 666 00:27:38,462 --> 00:27:38,581 Speaker 1: You. 667 00:27:38,601 --> 00:27:40,642 Speaker 2: See previous episodes if you're a new listener. 668 00:27:40,742 --> 00:27:49,092 Speaker 3: John, this week, 1994, the famous 1934 surgeon's photo, in quotes, 669 00:27:49,962 --> 00:27:54,012 Speaker 3: reportedly taken by Colonel Robert Wilson of the Loch Ness Monster, 670 00:27:54,552 --> 00:27:58,152 Speaker 3: is called a hoax in a deathbed confession by Chris Sperling, 671 00:27:58,572 --> 00:28:02,151 Speaker 3: who claimed he helped create the photo. So this guy, 672 00:28:02,802 --> 00:28:04,482 Speaker 3: It's famous, the one that kind of looks like a 673 00:28:04,911 --> 00:28:07,272 Speaker 3: finger coming out of the– they call it the surgeon's photo. 674 00:28:08,732 --> 00:28:11,091 Speaker 3: But in a deathbed confession, he was like, all right. 675 00:28:11,152 --> 00:28:12,292 Speaker 3: But he carried it all the way. 676 00:28:12,472 --> 00:28:12,712 Speaker 1: Wow. 677 00:28:13,032 --> 00:28:15,641 Speaker 3: And he was part of that photo. And in 1994– 678 00:28:15,802 --> 00:28:17,261 Speaker 3: but there are people who still believe– that's what's odd 679 00:28:17,282 --> 00:28:19,961 Speaker 3: about today's culture is you can admit it was a hoax, 680 00:28:20,081 --> 00:28:22,602 Speaker 3: and there are still people who have sunk cost in 681 00:28:22,621 --> 00:28:25,641 Speaker 3: the hoax that will be like, Yeah, but what did 682 00:28:25,661 --> 00:28:28,102 Speaker 3: he have to gain by admitting it? So we can't 683 00:28:28,121 --> 00:28:30,622 Speaker 3: really even trust the guy who says that it was 684 00:28:30,681 --> 00:28:31,602 Speaker 3: a lie now. 685 00:28:31,621 --> 00:28:32,502 Speaker 2: It was like he was dying. 686 00:28:32,522 --> 00:28:35,762 Speaker 3: Because I have so much invested in the lie. So anyway, 687 00:28:35,782 --> 00:28:38,922 Speaker 3: the Loch Ness Monster. Don't go to Loch Ness Lake 688 00:28:39,002 --> 00:28:39,912 Speaker 3: looking for it because. 689 00:28:40,332 --> 00:28:41,392 Speaker 2: You know what Loch means, right? 690 00:28:41,832 --> 00:28:42,002 Speaker 1: What? 691 00:28:42,222 --> 00:28:42,442 Speaker 3: Lake. 692 00:28:43,132 --> 00:28:44,222 Speaker 2: That's what they call their lakes. 693 00:28:44,242 --> 00:28:46,872 Speaker 3: It's Lake Ness Lake. The Lake Ness Monster. I always 694 00:28:46,892 --> 00:28:48,912 Speaker 3: thought it was just called Loch Ness Lake. Is this 695 00:28:48,952 --> 00:28:51,352 Speaker 3: Loch Ness there? Is it not Loch Ness Lake? 696 00:28:52,052 --> 00:28:52,992 Speaker 2: I think it's just Loch Ness. 697 00:28:53,032 --> 00:28:54,692 Speaker 3: It's like a... Tongue twister. 698 00:28:54,712 --> 00:28:56,532 Speaker 2: I'm saying our word is lake. They say lock. 699 00:28:56,952 --> 00:28:58,432 Speaker 3: But I've always heard Loch Ness Lake. 700 00:28:58,772 --> 00:28:59,012 Speaker 2: Really? 701 00:28:59,032 --> 00:29:00,692 Speaker 3: I've never heard of that. The Loch Ness Monster lives 702 00:29:00,712 --> 00:29:01,572 Speaker 3: in a Loch Ness lake. 703 00:29:01,592 --> 00:29:02,692 Speaker 2: I think that's what the Americans do. 704 00:29:02,692 --> 00:29:03,652 Speaker 3: He lives in Loch Ness. 705 00:29:04,332 --> 00:29:06,332 Speaker 2: Yeah, he lives in Loch Ness is my understanding. 706 00:29:07,732 --> 00:29:12,652 Speaker 3: I'm starting to not like Loch Ness section of our show. John, 707 00:29:12,692 --> 00:29:17,442 Speaker 3: this week, 1951, Hank Ketchum's comic strip Dennis the Menace debuts. 708 00:29:17,452 --> 00:29:20,362 Speaker 3: It was based on his real-life son, Dennis Ketchum, who 709 00:29:20,582 --> 00:29:22,802 Speaker 3: earned the nickname Dennis the Menace when he was four 710 00:29:22,822 --> 00:29:26,242 Speaker 3: years old. This is kind of a– I included this because, like, 711 00:29:26,282 --> 00:29:28,281 Speaker 3: let's say Sadie was a holy terror when she was 712 00:29:28,322 --> 00:29:30,981 Speaker 3: a kid. And now you're like, okay. 713 00:29:31,161 --> 00:29:32,302 Speaker 2: Sadie from Hades or whatever. 714 00:29:32,322 --> 00:29:34,702 Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's make a thing. Let's make a comic strip 715 00:29:34,722 --> 00:29:38,002 Speaker 3: called Sadie from Hades. Yeah. How would she feel about that? 716 00:29:38,382 --> 00:29:39,782 Speaker 2: Well, I guess if it paid for college. 717 00:29:39,802 --> 00:29:42,332 Speaker 3: That's true. But then she's known as that. 718 00:29:42,652 --> 00:29:43,092 Speaker 2: It's like Wendy. 719 00:29:43,112 --> 00:29:45,152 Speaker 3: She's got to walk around college and just be like, oh, 720 00:29:45,302 --> 00:29:46,252 Speaker 3: this is Sadie from Hades. 721 00:29:46,292 --> 00:29:48,652 Speaker 2: Like, Wendy is forever in pigtails on a sign. 722 00:29:48,832 --> 00:29:49,411 Speaker 3: Yeah. 723 00:29:49,532 --> 00:29:50,972 Speaker 2: As a girl with freckles and stuff. 724 00:29:50,992 --> 00:29:53,072 Speaker 3: But she also– It has a pretty nice house, I 725 00:29:53,092 --> 00:29:53,432 Speaker 3: would say. 726 00:29:53,652 --> 00:29:54,132 Speaker 2: Probably so. 727 00:29:55,362 --> 00:29:55,882 Speaker 3: It's a good gig. 728 00:29:55,922 --> 00:29:58,302 Speaker 2: And good burgers. More people should do square burgers. 729 00:29:58,922 --> 00:30:00,882 Speaker 3: I agree. You get that extra little corners of the— 730 00:30:00,902 --> 00:30:05,302 Speaker 3: I don't know what we're thinking. What about a round 731 00:30:05,922 --> 00:30:07,832 Speaker 3: burger on a square bun? That's not as good. 732 00:30:09,032 --> 00:30:09,932 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be too much bread. 733 00:30:10,152 --> 00:30:11,332 Speaker 3: Yeah. It is too much bread. 734 00:30:11,352 --> 00:30:12,991 Speaker 2: You've got to have an equal distribution. 735 00:30:13,572 --> 00:30:14,971 Speaker 3: Or unequal beef-wise. 736 00:30:15,072 --> 00:30:16,032 Speaker 2: Yes, I could take extra beef. 737 00:30:16,052 --> 00:30:16,772 Speaker 3: You want the beef to be more. 738 00:30:16,812 --> 00:30:16,892 Speaker 1: Yeah. 739 00:30:17,942 --> 00:30:18,572 Speaker 3: We're going to fix it. 740 00:30:18,582 --> 00:30:18,982 Speaker 2: Good thoughts. 741 00:30:19,652 --> 00:30:22,892 Speaker 3: John, this week, the first fireside chat happened. What year? 742 00:30:24,232 --> 00:30:25,072 Speaker 3: Franklin Delano Roosevelt. 743 00:30:25,112 --> 00:30:25,972 Speaker 2: Oh, I know who it was. 744 00:30:26,032 --> 00:30:26,431 Speaker 3: Hold on. 745 00:30:27,072 --> 00:30:31,451 Speaker 1: First fireside chat, I'm going to call 1931. 746 00:30:31,452 --> 00:30:34,682 Speaker 3: 33. Do you know how many days after taking office 747 00:30:34,722 --> 00:30:35,022 Speaker 3: it was? 748 00:30:36,582 --> 00:30:37,882 Speaker 2: Oh, he wasn't elected until 33? 749 00:30:37,882 --> 00:30:40,681 Speaker 3: Well, it just says eight days after taking office, he 750 00:30:40,702 --> 00:30:40,982 Speaker 3: did this. 751 00:30:41,042 --> 00:30:41,442 Speaker 1: Oh, my bad. 752 00:30:41,462 --> 00:30:44,541 Speaker 3: The first fireside chat. Here's why. This is interesting. 753 00:30:44,562 --> 00:30:45,342 Speaker 2: Hoover was still in the 30s. 754 00:30:45,342 --> 00:30:49,002 Speaker 3: Especially given the climate of media. Roosevelt felt that the 755 00:30:49,062 --> 00:30:51,622 Speaker 3: fledgling new medium of radio would help him counter the 756 00:30:51,661 --> 00:30:54,002 Speaker 3: conservative bias of newspapers at the time. 757 00:30:54,632 --> 00:30:54,872 Speaker 1: Yeah. 758 00:30:55,372 --> 00:30:59,052 Speaker 3: So that's interesting that he thought this radio could help 759 00:30:59,072 --> 00:31:01,532 Speaker 3: me kind of level the playing field because the papers 760 00:31:01,552 --> 00:31:02,652 Speaker 3: had gotten so conservative. 761 00:31:02,672 --> 00:31:02,772 Speaker 1: Yeah. 762 00:31:02,792 --> 00:31:04,872 Speaker 3: Because they're probably run by all rich people. I mean, 763 00:31:04,892 --> 00:31:07,632 Speaker 3: that's the thing. People used to... engage in these wars 764 00:31:07,712 --> 00:31:09,772 Speaker 3: back and forth because i own the paper i can 765 00:31:09,812 --> 00:31:13,032 Speaker 3: spread misinformation about you and disinformation and then you fight 766 00:31:13,072 --> 00:31:16,252 Speaker 3: back in your paper with your editorials i'm glad we're 767 00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:17,172 Speaker 3: beyond that. 768 00:31:16,931 --> 00:31:20,452 Speaker 1: I tell you polemics is like at the root of 769 00:31:20,492 --> 00:31:22,592 Speaker 1: american history in terms of. 770 00:31:22,482 --> 00:31:24,722 Speaker 3: Well we need that yeah it is and we need 771 00:31:24,782 --> 00:31:28,382 Speaker 3: that it's to your point about uh our circles and 772 00:31:28,422 --> 00:31:31,862 Speaker 3: loving people outside of our circles those circles serve some 773 00:31:31,982 --> 00:31:36,512 Speaker 3: function in our broken minds yeah to To know who's 774 00:31:36,592 --> 00:31:39,172 Speaker 3: in and who's out. We need an other. We need 775 00:31:39,192 --> 00:31:40,012 Speaker 3: to other people. 776 00:31:40,272 --> 00:31:40,472 Speaker 2: Yeah. 777 00:31:40,681 --> 00:31:41,702 Speaker 3: We need to otherize them. 778 00:31:41,842 --> 00:31:42,052 Speaker 1: Right. 779 00:31:42,202 --> 00:31:44,181 Speaker 3: So that we can feel superior. There's something in us 780 00:31:44,222 --> 00:31:47,342 Speaker 3: that needs to do that. And I think media and 781 00:31:47,522 --> 00:31:49,522 Speaker 3: like you said, polemics, it serves that role. And I 782 00:31:49,522 --> 00:31:51,522 Speaker 3: don't know why, but it just shows like we're broken, 783 00:31:51,802 --> 00:31:53,302 Speaker 3: that we need it, that we need to go like, 784 00:31:53,382 --> 00:31:55,742 Speaker 3: not only am I right, let me tell you who's wrong. 785 00:31:55,902 --> 00:31:56,062 Speaker 1: Yeah. 786 00:31:56,181 --> 00:31:58,281 Speaker 3: This further proves how right. Let me go dunk on 787 00:31:58,322 --> 00:32:00,042 Speaker 3: them for a minute. And you go, but why do 788 00:32:00,082 --> 00:32:03,322 Speaker 3: I need that? Why do we spend our time looking 789 00:32:03,362 --> 00:32:10,822 Speaker 3: for that? Anyway, John, it is fun. Finally, easy too. Finally, John, 790 00:32:10,882 --> 00:32:16,282 Speaker 3: this week, 1912, the Girl Scouts was founded, originally called 791 00:32:16,382 --> 00:32:18,402 Speaker 3: American Girl Guides, which I did not know that. 792 00:32:18,422 --> 00:32:19,022 Speaker 2: That's a good change. 793 00:32:19,562 --> 00:32:21,342 Speaker 3: It's founded by Juliet Gordon Lowe. 794 00:32:22,002 --> 00:32:22,282 Speaker 1: Lowe. 795 00:32:23,931 --> 00:32:29,372 Speaker 3: Lock. Juliet Lock. Juliet Gordon Lowe. The name was later 796 00:32:29,411 --> 00:32:31,252 Speaker 3: changed to Girl Scouts. And the reason I included this 797 00:32:31,431 --> 00:32:33,562 Speaker 3: is I wanted to ask you, What do you consider 798 00:32:33,722 --> 00:32:37,062 Speaker 3: the definitive Girl Scout cookie? Do you stay away? 799 00:32:37,082 --> 00:32:38,822 Speaker 2: Samoas or Thin Mints. 800 00:32:38,942 --> 00:32:41,742 Speaker 3: Samoas is the peanut butter one, right? No. Oh. That's 801 00:32:41,782 --> 00:32:42,322 Speaker 3: a tag along. 802 00:32:42,362 --> 00:32:45,382 Speaker 2: It's got like coconut in it, I think. 803 00:32:46,642 --> 00:32:48,912 Speaker 3: Some people don't like coconut. People feel very strongly about coconut. 804 00:32:48,942 --> 00:32:49,411 Speaker 3: I understand. 805 00:32:49,452 --> 00:32:51,931 Speaker 2: If you don't like coconut. What are you doing with 806 00:32:51,952 --> 00:32:52,292 Speaker 2: your life? 807 00:32:52,332 --> 00:32:54,511 Speaker 3: The shavings. I think people feel like, is this just 808 00:32:54,532 --> 00:32:56,772 Speaker 3: like a pile of fingernail clippings? It just feels weird. 809 00:32:56,792 --> 00:32:58,152 Speaker 3: People don't like that texture of the shavings. 810 00:32:58,192 --> 00:32:59,752 Speaker 2: But once you know that it came out of a coconut, 811 00:32:59,772 --> 00:33:00,692 Speaker 2: then you should get past that. 812 00:33:00,752 --> 00:33:01,412 Speaker 3: And not fingernails. 813 00:33:01,431 --> 00:33:02,192 Speaker 2: Right, not fingernails. 814 00:33:02,852 --> 00:33:04,792 Speaker 1: That's like saying potato chips. If you think of anything 815 00:33:04,852 --> 00:33:08,052 Speaker 1: crunchy that's nasty, you can't eat potato chips? No. I 816 00:33:08,082 --> 00:33:10,662 Speaker 1: have a real thing. Andrew hates coconut, and I can't. 817 00:33:11,082 --> 00:33:12,682 Speaker 1: Although he'll eat coconut shrimp. 818 00:33:13,022 --> 00:33:13,242 Speaker 3: Right. 819 00:33:13,902 --> 00:33:14,382 Speaker 2: I was like, dude. 820 00:33:15,302 --> 00:33:17,991 Speaker 1: Guys, if you don't want coconut at its best, wait, 821 00:33:18,012 --> 00:33:20,092 Speaker 1: at its worst, then you can't have it at its best. 822 00:33:20,232 --> 00:33:22,712 Speaker 3: Wait. I think coconut shrimp is coconut at its best. Yeah. 823 00:33:22,732 --> 00:33:27,152 Speaker 3: Although coconut cream pie. Yeah. Pretty good. Or a coconut cake. Oh. 824 00:33:28,092 --> 00:33:28,332 Speaker 1: Yeah. 825 00:33:28,592 --> 00:33:29,192 Speaker 3: Good stuff. 826 00:33:29,492 --> 00:33:31,672 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like the Will Rogers of coconut. 827 00:33:31,692 --> 00:33:32,072 Speaker 3: You never met it? 828 00:33:32,072 --> 00:33:33,152 Speaker 2: I've never met one I didn't like. 829 00:33:33,172 --> 00:33:33,442 Speaker 3: Yeah. 830 00:33:33,452 --> 00:33:34,452 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 831 00:33:35,681 --> 00:33:38,362 Speaker 3: Well, I'm a thin mince guy. I like them cold, though. 832 00:33:38,982 --> 00:33:39,282 Speaker 2: Yeah. 833 00:33:39,442 --> 00:33:40,642 Speaker 3: Thin them out of the freezer is pretty good. Put 834 00:33:40,661 --> 00:33:41,902 Speaker 3: them in the fridge or in the freezer, yeah? Yeah. 835 00:33:41,922 --> 00:33:44,752 Speaker 3: It's good, man. A sleeve. A sleeve. Like a sleeve. 836 00:33:44,812 --> 00:33:45,962 Speaker 2: They go down fast. 837 00:33:46,522 --> 00:33:46,762 Speaker 1: Yeah. 838 00:33:47,022 --> 00:33:47,982 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's out of control. 839 00:33:48,002 --> 00:33:50,262 Speaker 1: You know, my investment guy always says that the market 840 00:33:50,302 --> 00:33:52,982 Speaker 1: goes down on an elevator, but up on an escalator. 841 00:33:53,002 --> 00:33:54,721 Speaker 2: And I think that's true for my weight gain and 842 00:33:54,762 --> 00:33:55,322 Speaker 2: loss as well. 843 00:33:55,342 --> 00:33:55,802 Speaker 3: Interesting. 844 00:33:55,882 --> 00:33:58,712 Speaker 2: Except I go up on the escalator. Sorry. 845 00:33:58,892 --> 00:33:58,991 Speaker 1: Yeah. 846 00:33:59,012 --> 00:34:01,951 Speaker 2: On the, on the, on the weight. I go up 847 00:34:02,012 --> 00:34:03,832 Speaker 2: fast and down slow. That's what I'm trying to say. 848 00:34:04,192 --> 00:34:06,772 Speaker 1: So the sleeve of thin mints, that'll be, that'll be 849 00:34:06,812 --> 00:34:07,732 Speaker 1: like two weeks of running. 850 00:34:07,772 --> 00:34:09,531 Speaker 3: John, as we wrap the show, I'd like to say 851 00:34:09,712 --> 00:34:12,011 Speaker 3: you got a real way with words. And if you 852 00:34:12,032 --> 00:34:16,812 Speaker 3: want to learn more about John's writing, go to johndriver.com. John, 853 00:34:16,862 --> 00:34:18,762 Speaker 3: how would you learn more about the show in general, 854 00:34:18,782 --> 00:34:20,442 Speaker 3: like listen to other episodes and such? 855 00:34:20,661 --> 00:34:21,942 Speaker 2: Talkaboutthatpodcast.com. 856 00:34:22,402 --> 00:34:25,102 Speaker 3: You can click on the upper right-hand link, get ad-free content. 857 00:34:25,161 --> 00:34:27,342 Speaker 3: If you support the show, we love our supporters. If 858 00:34:27,362 --> 00:34:28,862 Speaker 3: you want to send us a message, send that to 859 00:34:28,922 --> 00:34:34,742 Speaker 3: hello at talkaboutthatpodcast.com. An echo, did you hear it? Hello, hello. 860 00:34:35,042 --> 00:34:38,411 Speaker 3: I thought it was going to clap back. Hello at talkaboutthatpodcast.com. 861 00:34:39,542 --> 00:34:45,841 Speaker 3: My new tour dates are going up every day, johnnyw.com, J-O-N-N-I-E-W.com. 862 00:34:46,082 --> 00:34:49,392 Speaker 3: And tickets are available. And I just came back from 863 00:34:49,412 --> 00:34:51,092 Speaker 3: a great run. We did a couple of comedy clubs. 864 00:34:51,112 --> 00:34:53,931 Speaker 3: We did a fundraiser event. And then I did like 865 00:34:53,972 --> 00:34:56,672 Speaker 3: a church event. It was just a great all-around cool weekend. 866 00:34:56,692 --> 00:34:58,911 Speaker 3: A lot of miles, though. At one point, we went 867 00:34:58,952 --> 00:35:02,522 Speaker 3: from Port Charlotte, Florida, and did a 6 a.m. flight 868 00:35:02,582 --> 00:35:05,992 Speaker 3: to Tulsa, Oklahoma. which I don't recommend doing that to 869 00:35:06,032 --> 00:35:06,431 Speaker 3: your wife. 870 00:35:06,772 --> 00:35:07,032 Speaker 1: Yeah. 871 00:35:07,092 --> 00:35:08,612 Speaker 3: She's been along for the ride on these and she's 872 00:35:08,672 --> 00:35:12,872 Speaker 3: really getting like, she's getting the full experience of like, Oh, 873 00:35:12,892 --> 00:35:15,112 Speaker 3: you did this by yourself. I go, yeah. Can you imagine? 874 00:35:15,132 --> 00:35:16,602 Speaker 3: And she's like, no. 875 00:35:17,482 --> 00:35:17,882 Speaker 4: Yeah. 876 00:35:17,962 --> 00:35:20,161 Speaker 1: I've been up with you at four before or three 877 00:35:20,162 --> 00:35:22,042 Speaker 1: 30 to go. And it's not fun. I couldn't do 878 00:35:22,062 --> 00:35:22,522 Speaker 1: it all the. 879 00:35:22,462 --> 00:35:24,522 Speaker 3: Time, but we did it. And we got, we told 880 00:35:24,542 --> 00:35:26,102 Speaker 3: the jokes and we got back and there's more dates 881 00:35:26,182 --> 00:35:28,392 Speaker 3: on the old calendar and we're adding new dates all 882 00:35:28,432 --> 00:35:29,872 Speaker 3: the time. And we'd love to see you at a 883 00:35:29,892 --> 00:35:30,332 Speaker 3: live show. 884 00:35:30,612 --> 00:35:31,932 Speaker 2: If you'd like to go on the road with Johnny 885 00:35:32,152 --> 00:35:33,982 Speaker 2: and wake up at 4 o'clock, just send him a message. 886 00:35:34,202 --> 00:35:36,622 Speaker 3: By the way, radio, they do this thing called a tease. And, 887 00:35:36,742 --> 00:35:39,181 Speaker 3: you know, your escalator talk, there's a tease for next week. 888 00:35:39,202 --> 00:35:42,362 Speaker 3: So tune in next week for a little escalator. Might 889 00:35:42,442 --> 00:35:44,472 Speaker 3: make this week in history. It might make a little... 890 00:35:44,442 --> 00:35:47,072 Speaker 3: And it might even make Johnny's old jokes. Oh, wow. 891 00:35:47,112 --> 00:35:48,652 Speaker 3: Here we go. It might be a little combo. 892 00:35:48,892 --> 00:35:49,732 Speaker 2: You're going to want to listen, guys. 893 00:35:49,872 --> 00:35:51,372 Speaker 3: A hybrid of the two. 894 00:35:51,732 --> 00:35:52,152 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 895 00:35:52,172 --> 00:35:53,392 Speaker 3: We'll blend the two theme songs. 896 00:35:53,532 --> 00:35:54,652 Speaker 2: I wait with bated breath. 897 00:35:54,852 --> 00:35:55,272 Speaker 3: Thank you. 898 00:35:55,332 --> 00:35:55,482 Speaker 1: So. 899 00:35:57,342 --> 00:35:58,681 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thanks for the time you gave us today. 900 00:35:58,712 --> 00:36:00,412 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Let's do it again next week here 901 00:36:00,432 --> 00:36:01,092 Speaker 2: on Talk About That.