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Speaker 3: Hi everybody, Dennis Prager and welcome to the Fireside Chat
Speaker 3: number two oh nine.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I don't usually get it right. I usually ask Megan
Speaker 3: the and she gives me the answer. Great to be
Speaker 3: with you. Otto's here, though increasingly he leaves at the
Speaker 3: half hour mark because we only pay him for a
Speaker 3: half hour, and I'm not even annoyed with him but
Speaker 3: that's now been his general modus operandi. And I don't
Speaker 3: know if you see, but Snoopy a very rare moment.
Speaker 3: Snoopy is right aside my legs here between my legs
Speaker 3: on the ground. So you got two for the price
Speaker 3: of one. Welcome to the fireside chat, where I talk
Speaker 3: completely spontaneously about things on my mind and then take
Speaker 3: your questions from literally around the world. A thought first
Speaker 3: about what is happening I have here. The reason I'm
Speaker 3: holding the tablet is I'm looking at the list of
Speaker 3: things you can't say with regard to COVID, or medicines,
Speaker 3: or a whole host of things that YouTube will remove
Speaker 3: you if you do say them. And I just need
Speaker 3: you to understand what the word misinformation has come to mean.
Speaker 3: There is such a thing as misinformation. One cannot deny that. However,
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. It was declared misinformation less
Speaker 3: than a year ago. If you said that COVID nineteen
Speaker 3: began at a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan, China, that was
Speaker 3: called misinformation. People were removed from Google, or from YouTube,
Speaker 3: or from Instagram or from Twitter. Now it's not misinformation,
Speaker 3: So it's a very difficult thing to deal with when
Speaker 3: honest dissent is labeled misinformation, even if it has a
Speaker 3: great deal of information. It says here, if you differ
Speaker 3: with the World Health Organization or health authorities, then it's misinformation.
Speaker 3: This is the first time in the history of medicine
Speaker 3: that is the case. You know, people laugh at the
Speaker 3: medieval church for persecuting Galileo. Well, the church said that
Speaker 3: what Galileo said was about the Earth going around the
Speaker 3: Sun was misinformation. And now we have a new church.
Speaker 3: That's the interesting thing. We have a secular church, which
Speaker 3: is even less tolerant than the medieval church in many ways.
Speaker 3: Misinformation is anything that the left differs with. That's what
Speaker 3: they do. They just declare it misinformation, like they did
Speaker 3: the claim that the virus began at a laboratory. This
Speaker 3: is very dangerous. You have to allow people, especially scientists,
Speaker 3: to dissent without just clearing it, declaring it misinformation. So
Speaker 3: you realize what's happening to free speech in the United States.
Speaker 3: If you differ with the left on a scientific issue,
Speaker 3: it's misinformation. If you differ with the left on an
Speaker 3: issue concerning race, just even declaring that the United States
Speaker 3: is not systemically racist, or that color blind is a
Speaker 3: good thing. Then you are shut down because you are
Speaker 3: called racist, you're not sufficiently anti racist. The number of
Speaker 3: areas where dissent is no longer allowed, meaning descent from
Speaker 3: the left, or in the case of the United States,
Speaker 3: descent from the state because the state is run by
Speaker 3: the left. This is very and unprecedented in American history.
Speaker 3: So I want you to understand, very serious, very honest,
Speaker 3: very truth oriented people are dissenting and not misinforming. Necessarily,
Speaker 3: misinformation exists, but it exists all over the spectrum. There's
Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of left wing misinformation. For two years,
Speaker 3: we were misinformed about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
Speaker 3: There was one hundred percent misinformation, and it took up
Speaker 3: the the It sucked out the oxygen from the national
Speaker 3: conversation for two years. Turned out to be a gigantic lie.
Speaker 3: So you just need to be aware of that. The
Speaker 3: bombardment of misinformation, misinformation, misinformation charges is just a way
Speaker 3: to stifle descent in this country. Okay, I'd like to
Speaker 3: talk to you for a moment about another subject that
Speaker 3: is precious to me, dear to me. I am asked
Speaker 3: all the time, How does one become courageous? This issue
Speaker 3: is raised because I say that, and I'm not the
Speaker 3: only one, obviously, But without courage, evil winds. It's as
Speaker 3: simple as that. Good people need to have courage or
Speaker 3: evil wins. There was no exception to that. And I
Speaker 3: have an answer for you, a quick answer that will
Speaker 3: sound so simple as to be almost hard to imagine
Speaker 3: that that's the answer. It sounds too simple, but I've
Speaker 3: devoted so much time to thinking about it that I
Speaker 3: am convinced it's accurate. It's not the only answer, but
Speaker 3: it's the first answer, and that is you're courageous, or
Speaker 3: you become courageous if you want to be courageous. That's it,
Speaker 3: because and this is huge. This is life changing stuff,
Speaker 3: and I try to infuse every fireside chat with life
Speaker 3: changing stuff. Basically, we are what we want to be.
Speaker 3: It's one of these incredibly simple thoughts that is very
Speaker 3: very true and very important. We are what we want
Speaker 3: to be as a general rule, and I will give
Speaker 3: you a few examples. Courage is the first. You become
Speaker 3: courageous if you want to be courageous. Most people don't
Speaker 3: want to be courageous because there's a price. Courage exacts
Speaker 3: a price. You could lose your friends, you could lose relatives,
Speaker 3: you could lose your job. This is true. So there's
Speaker 3: a reason people don't want to be courageous, because it's tough.
Speaker 3: Give you another one that I have mentioned in passing
Speaker 3: on many occasions. It is the basis of my entire
Speaker 3: attitude toward happiness. You choose to be happy, just as
Speaker 3: you choose to be courageous. So here is the other
Speaker 3: major thought for the day. Although I can't say that
Speaker 3: there may be more major thoughts. I haven't yet gotten
Speaker 3: to the questions. But everything is a choice, and people
Speaker 3: don't realize that you choose to be courageous, you choose
Speaker 3: to be happy. If it were easy to be happy,
Speaker 3: everybody would be happy. There are a whole host of
Speaker 3: reasons for everyone looking at me right now, watching me
Speaker 3: right now. There's a whole host of valid reasons for
Speaker 3: you not to be happy. You are mistreated by your parents,
Speaker 3: you are mistreated by your spouse, mistreated by your children,
Speaker 3: mistreated by your friends, mistreated by your employer, mistreated by
Speaker 3: customers at your retail operation. You have lousy health, you
Speaker 3: have you are bad financial problems. I mean the number
Speaker 3: of reasons to be unhappy, and they're legit. I'm not
Speaker 3: mocking any one of the things I just said. They're
Speaker 3: big deals and yet with obvious certain exceptions that I
Speaker 3: won't I won't deal with. Although it's hard for me
Speaker 3: to come up with an exception. Yes, I can horrible,
Speaker 3: uncontrollable pain that I would say that's an exception. I
Speaker 3: know a man who killed himself because he it was
Speaker 3: not allowed to have drug drugs that would kill his
Speaker 3: pain after a horrific accident falling off a roof onto
Speaker 3: the latter's steps, which went into his stomach, horrible pain
Speaker 3: not given the appropriate medications because doctors are afraid to
Speaker 3: prescribe painkillers as if it's better. See, in my view,
Speaker 3: it is better to be addicted to painkillers than have
Speaker 3: the pain. I'm not speaking from personal experience. I've never
Speaker 3: had such pain, and I've may been taken two painkillers
Speaker 3: in my life, so I'm not speaking from personal experience
Speaker 3: except this experience that I know. I acknowledge there could
Speaker 3: be exceptions to my rule. For ninety nine percent of humanity.
Speaker 3: Happiness is a choice. Courage is a choice, and the
Speaker 3: happiness one was the woman sitting in a chair next
Speaker 3: to me in this room, Yon me Park, North Korean,
Speaker 3: who escaped the hell of North Korea into China and
Speaker 3: was immediately trafficked as a sex slave at the age
Speaker 3: of thirteen. It is not possible for me to imagine
Speaker 3: what that is like. A am not a woman, and
Speaker 3: B I just can't imagine such suffering. And she saw
Speaker 3: her mother raped and her father was tortured nearly to
Speaker 3: death back in North Korea, and she was happy. You
Speaker 3: saw her. If you missed that fireside chat, it's life changing.
Speaker 3: And I asked her, how could you be happy? Said,
Speaker 3: I chose to be She never heard me speak on happiness, said,
Speaker 3: And basically she put it in the way I have
Speaker 3: always put it. What's my choice to be miserable, to
Speaker 3: go through life miserable. If she could choose to be
Speaker 3: happy after being trafficked at thirteen, watching her mother raped
Speaker 3: and her father having been tortured, I think most of
Speaker 3: you can make that choice. Same with courage. Here's another
Speaker 3: example of a choice. People don't think it's a choice.
Speaker 3: You choose whether or not to lead a religious life.
Speaker 3: There are two choices, secular life or religious life. People
Speaker 3: think that to be religious you have to sort of
Speaker 3: just either you believe or you don't believe. Well, since
Speaker 3: we don't have proof that God exists, and we certainly
Speaker 3: don't have proof that God doesn't exist, Basically, you have
Speaker 3: to make a choice. Will you live as if God
Speaker 3: exists or as if God doesn't exist. If you're a nignat,
Speaker 3: why would you live as an atheist? Why not live
Speaker 3: a religious life? In other words, religious community, regular house
Speaker 3: of prayer, church, synagogue, studying the Bible. I know this
Speaker 3: sounds so foreign to so many of you because you
Speaker 3: went through the secular brainwash known as a Western education,
Speaker 3: which basically taught you that this is all silly. It's
Speaker 3: the most profound stuff ever written. This stuff, it's not silly.
Speaker 3: The deepest people I know are overwhelmingly been religious. Overwhelmingly.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of religious dummies, but the most
Speaker 3: profound people I've ever met have ninety nine percent been
Speaker 3: religious or come from a religious background. That's a choice.
Speaker 3: God never appeared to me. I chose at a very
Speaker 3: early age to lead a religious life, a God centered life,
Speaker 3: because I knew would be a better life, and I
Speaker 3: was right. It's one of the greatest choices of my life.
Speaker 3: You choose. You don't wait for God to appear to you.
Speaker 3: He probably won't. That's the way it works. It's all
Speaker 3: a choice. You choose whether to get married, you choose
Speaker 3: whether to have children. I ask young people, so it
Speaker 3: would you like to get married?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: You know, the right person comes along. I'm working on
Speaker 3: my career. You're not going to get married. You got
Speaker 3: to choose to be married. You don't say that about
Speaker 3: a career. Well, if a career comes along, I'll work.
Speaker 3: People make a choice for working, right, make a choice
Speaker 3: for career, got to make a choice for marriage, got
Speaker 3: to make a choice for children. Best choices you can make,
Speaker 3: even if the marriage ends in the divorce. It's the
Speaker 3: best choice you can make because marriage makes you grow up.
Speaker 3: New study from Pew shows that the unmarried makes so
Speaker 3: much less money than that married, which we have a
Speaker 3: whole of video. Want a prager you by the way,
Speaker 3: just giving the data on that fact. You just mature
Speaker 3: when you get married. And if you don't believe me,
Speaker 3: ask anyone in your life, anyone divorced or still married,
Speaker 3: did marriage mature? You just ask him that did you
Speaker 3: grow up more after you got married. Every single one
Speaker 3: will say yes, even as I said if it ended
Speaker 3: in divorce. Everything in life is a choice. Accept what
Speaker 3: happens to you. You don't choose that. By a drunk driver,
Speaker 3: you didn't choose it. Get cancer, you didn't choose it.
Speaker 3: I acknowledge that. But everything else is a choice. O
Speaker 3: canilk time for your question now. Megan tells me that
Speaker 3: I should. I usually see the question in advance. I
Speaker 3: acknowledge that, but she wants me to see this one
Speaker 3: without having seen it. So this is the first time
Speaker 3: in two hundred and nine episodes of the Fireside Chat
Speaker 3: that I have not seen. She wants me to react spontaneously,
Speaker 3: so I will either love or hate Megan after watching
Speaker 3: this video. Here we go, Hi Dennis, Hi Auto.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to tell a little story. A while back.
Speaker 1: I was watching the Fireside Chats, and I was watching
Speaker 1: the episode where you, Dennis give the recommendation or say
Speaker 1: that there's not really any downside to using online dating apps.
Speaker 1: And I just moved to a new town and so
Speaker 1: I decided to give it a try, and I downloaded
Speaker 1: this online dating app specifically for Mormons, and I.
Speaker 4: Started swiping and met a ton of people, and after
Speaker 4: a little bit, I ended up meeting this person and
Speaker 4: we really hit it off and we became super good friends.
Speaker 4: We started dating and we really bonded over shared values
Speaker 4: and over religion and things like that, and we fell
Speaker 4: in love, and recently, a couple of days ago, I
Speaker 4: got engaged. So I just want to say thank you,
Speaker 4: thank you for your wisdom, and thank you for in
Speaker 4: essence changing my life.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I was expecting her to say the opposite. I was
Speaker 3: respecting you said there's no downside, and that I was expecting.
Speaker 3: I met the guy and he turned out to be
Speaker 3: a criminal. This really shocked me. I expected a real
Speaker 3: challenge here because she said, you said there's no downside,
Speaker 3: so I expected a butt right. Oh that's funny. Well
Speaker 3: I am so happy I changed her life. Yes that
Speaker 3: is true. Yes, that's exactly right. Well, that's what I
Speaker 3: want to do. I am truly thrilled for you. Look
Speaker 3: at that. I have the chills. I'm so happy for her.
Speaker 3: So you know, I sit here in my house, people
Speaker 3: around the world are watching. It's not quite real. It's
Speaker 3: a certain surreal thing, right is my house? And then
Speaker 3: I know that she didn't say where she's from, right,
Speaker 3: so we don't know originally Arizona. Oh she's in California now,
Speaker 3: poor thing, but it doesn't matter. Worked out in terms,
Speaker 3: so she met her husband. I'm thrilled. So I don't
Speaker 3: know how many people take these words seriously. I guess
Speaker 3: a lot, Thank God, otherwise you wouldn't be watching. I mean,
Speaker 3: let me say a word about this. I'm very, very rational.
Speaker 3: I'm in love with reason, okay, and I hate irrationality.
Speaker 3: So I don't know of a rational argument against going
Speaker 3: on online dating. I don't know of a rational reason.
Speaker 3: There are hundreds of thousands of people or millions online?
Speaker 3: How many are there in your life? Five? I mean,
Speaker 3: how are you going to meet a husband or wife
Speaker 3: without an online app? Friends will introduce you. How many
Speaker 3: single people do your friends know that would would qualify?
Speaker 3: How many? Seriously? Two? Three? You're a relative, Well you're
Speaker 3: not going to marry a relative, so that ends that
Speaker 3: maybe a relative will know somebody. I mean, even if
Speaker 3: you go to a church and you think, oh, oh
Speaker 3: that's a perfect and it is. It could be a
Speaker 3: wonderful place, but how many people, how many young singles
Speaker 3: are there at church? For you to choose from compared
Speaker 3: to online. She obviously if she's a Mormon and good standing,
Speaker 3: I mean she attends services church like services regularly. Did
Speaker 3: she meet somebody there? No, she met somebody. She met
Speaker 3: a Mormon online. I don't know what is the argument
Speaker 3: you might meet a jerk. Why you might not meet
Speaker 3: a jerk anywhere where you'll meet anybody. Your friends will
Speaker 3: not introduce you to somebody who might turn out to
Speaker 3: be a jerk. Anyway, you can pretty much figure it out.
Speaker 3: Do some you could do with a bunch of zoom
Speaker 3: calls with the person before you ever meet for a coffee.
Speaker 3: Right now, It's true, could somebody act? Somebody could act
Speaker 3: in person. Correct, There's no guarantees in life, but there
Speaker 3: is this guarantee. You have a much bigger choice online
Speaker 3: than not online. Okay, there we go. I'm married for
Speaker 3: eighteen years and love my dogs. Also, I want to
Speaker 3: be one hundred percent Wait do you want to read
Speaker 3: that one? I do very much.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, Oh, when you talked about your zeue's
Speaker 1: love for.
Speaker 3: Auto, Oh, it's commenting on that. That's fair. Yes, you
Speaker 3: love your dogs. No, I'm joking. I have no issue
Speaker 3: with men loving their dogs. However, I think it's fair
Speaker 3: to say, as a rule, at least with couples, the
Speaker 3: woman might love the dogs a bit more. My wife
Speaker 3: loves them more, I admit it. That doesn't mean I
Speaker 3: don't love them. It just means she loves them more,
Speaker 3: that's all. Like I love Beethoven more than my wife
Speaker 3: loves Beethoven, but she loves Beethoven too. Did I get
Speaker 3: out of that one? Okay? Also, I want to be
Speaker 3: one hundred percent honest on your question about who would
Speaker 3: rescue a persecuted group like the Jews in East in
Speaker 3: Europe during the Nazi regimes. I want to be one
Speaker 3: hundred percent honest on your question. When I was a
Speaker 3: young single man, I have no doubt that I would
Speaker 3: have hidden a Jew. As an older man who has
Speaker 3: a wife and three children, I don't know that I
Speaker 3: would put my family at risk to help a stranger.
Speaker 3: I know this makes me a lesser person, and I
Speaker 3: am ashamed, but must be honest with myself. Well, you
Speaker 3: don't have to be ashamed, Okay. It's impressive that you're ashamed.
Speaker 3: It shows what a decent man you are that you
Speaker 3: would even be ashamed. Most people wouldn't be, So what
Speaker 3: are you kidding? I'm going to put my wife or
Speaker 3: my husband and children and children risk their lives to
Speaker 3: save a stranger. I totally get that, but that wasn't
Speaker 3: the purpose of my article. My article wasn't a quiz.
Speaker 3: My article was what type of person will risk their
Speaker 3: lives more readily? And that was why I was an
Speaker 3: important piece. And it was also about people who follow
Speaker 3: orders that are irrational are less likely to risk their
Speaker 3: lives under a regime that gives irrational orders to kill people.
Speaker 3: That was one of my major points of that piece.
Speaker 3: You should see the article though, upon which it's based.
Speaker 3: It's at Dennis Prager dot comtown All dot com, American
Speaker 3: Greatness dot com, Daily Wired dot com, Jewish World Review
Speaker 3: dot com. It's all over the place, and it is
Speaker 3: about who would rescue a Jew? And it's not about
Speaker 3: Jews as such. It is about what type of person
Speaker 3: does that sort of thing. Tracy fifty six years old, Crownsville, Maryland, Hi,
Speaker 3: Dennis Ottomegan and Snoopy Megan. You're really making it. I'm
Speaker 3: telling you it's pretty It's not uncommon. Now used to
Speaker 3: be the arm Now it's your name Yeah, ideologies. By
Speaker 3: the way you see, you are now after Otto, which
Speaker 3: is totally understandable, but before Snoopy also completely understandable. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the order was important with our ideology so vastly different
Speaker 3: on our country rapidly declining. What are your thoughts about secession?
Speaker 3: I don't know of any other time in my life
Speaker 3: where things are so radically different, with no end and
Speaker 3: coming together the Republicans with power doing nothing to fight
Speaker 3: for us besides praying, how will we survive as one
Speaker 3: United States? Sincerely, Tracy, We may not survive. There's no guarantee.
Speaker 3: That's I spoke about choice in the beginning. Here we
Speaker 3: will choose whether it be the United States of America
Speaker 3: and keep holding the values of the founders or reject them.
Speaker 3: The left rejects them, so we're not The United States
Speaker 3: of America is the only country that's an idea. It's
Speaker 3: not an ethnicity. Right. If I said, draw me a
Speaker 3: picture of a Swede, you'd pretty much be able to
Speaker 3: draw the picture. Draw me a picture of a Ugandan,
Speaker 3: you'd be able to draw me the picture. Draw me
Speaker 3: a picture of a Korean, you'd be able to draw
Speaker 3: me the picture. Draw a picture of an American. Anything
Speaker 3: you drew would be accurate. If you drew a Ugandan,
Speaker 3: a Korean, a Swede, you'd be correct. Right, that's the
Speaker 3: whole point. We're not an ethnicity, we're not a race.
Speaker 3: We're an idea. No idea, no America. The idea is
Speaker 3: liberty in God. We trust liberty e plurbus unem from
Speaker 3: many one. That's the idea. It's on every coin. I
Speaker 3: didn't make it up. It's the American trinity as I've
Speaker 3: called it for decades. So yes, we're losing that idea.
Speaker 3: It's under a sult. That is correct, very very little.
Speaker 3: People hate giants. Midgets hate giants. Sorry for using the
Speaker 3: term midget, not referring to people physically moral. Midgets hate
Speaker 3: moral giants. People who hate the founders are moral midgets.
Speaker 3: Those were giants. They founded a country. And I'm not
Speaker 3: sure we can keep it. As Benjamin Franklin said, it's
Speaker 3: a republic if you can keep it. Not sure we
Speaker 3: can keep it. And yes, so there might be secession.
Speaker 3: It's very sad if it would happen. But personally, I
Speaker 3: would live in a state governed by Judeo Christian values
Speaker 3: versus one that governed by left wing values and in
Speaker 3: one hundred years, let's see who prosperous will twenty years
Speaker 3: old Saint Louis, Missouri. Hello, Dennis Otto, Snoopy and Megan's
Speaker 3: arm Ooh it's Megan now okay, folks, Megan's arm has
Speaker 3: had its day. Thanks for all you do, Dennis. You
Speaker 3: have greatly impacted me in so many ways. I am
Speaker 3: delighted to hear that college student on track to be
Speaker 3: certified as a high school history teacher. I am passionate
Speaker 3: about helping American students learn history. However, I am deeply
Speaker 3: concerned about the left's control of education and the fake
Speaker 3: history they promote through curricula such as the sixteen nineteen project.
Speaker 3: Do you recommend I teach at public school in an
Speaker 3: attempt to have an impact on my students or should
Speaker 3: I just teach it a classic, classical private school? Thank you, PS.
Speaker 3: I will never join a teachers' union. That's good. Well,
Speaker 3: I have no answer, because they're all good choices. However,
Speaker 3: I don't live in a fantasy world. I live in
Speaker 3: the real world, and the real world in certainly in
Speaker 3: urban centers. A public school in a more rural setting
Speaker 3: is different. Probably, although not necessarily, and you will be
Speaker 3: so ostracized with your views that and you may not
Speaker 3: even be able to offer them. They may kick you out.
Speaker 3: They kick out teachers who have dissenting views from the
Speaker 3: left that the left has always done, that they don't
Speaker 3: accept the scent. So the answer may become clear to
Speaker 3: you as you try to teach truth in any setting.
Speaker 3: But I wish you good luck as we obviously need you. Okay,
Speaker 3: keep sending in the questions to prager you, and I
Speaker 3: always remind you, so I'll do it again. If you
Speaker 3: threw a dart at any number between one and two
Speaker 3: hundred and nine, any number it would hit would be
Speaker 3: worthy of watching. That number of the fireside chat fifty seven,
Speaker 3: one hundred and four doesn't matter. Everyone. If I didn't
Speaker 3: say something that touches your life or many things that did,
Speaker 3: that was a failed fireside chat. So it's worth looking
Speaker 3: at previous ones, certainly if you didn't see them, and
Speaker 3: even if you did, there's a lot of stuff that
Speaker 3: goes on in this half hour. So on behalf of Atto,
Speaker 3: Snoopy and Megan and Nathan, the Nathan whose arm is
Speaker 3: not well known, but thanks to who we are actually
Speaker 3: seeing me it's my honor and privilege to do this
Speaker 3: every week. See you next week tomorrow on Timeless Wisdom
Speaker 3: with Dennis Prager.
Speaker 5: My wife and I kind of have a little disagreement,
Speaker 5: and it's nothing serious or intense, but I drink a
Speaker 5: bottle of wine a night, which adds up to about
Speaker 5: two and a half to three glasses of wine. I
Speaker 5: think yes, and she thinks that I'm an alcoholic and
Speaker 5: I disagree. And you know, it's all mostly said and fun,
Speaker 5: you know, but I was just wondering your opinion.
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