WEBVTT - Sunday Fireside Chat | The Founding of PragerU w/Allen Estrin

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<v Speaker 1>Life Audio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey there, this is Marissa strit I am the CEO

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Put that now, you look like a unicorn. That's good.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope this is being This should be record our

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<v Speaker 3>recapturing some of this. Okay, good, good here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wait a minute, I'm wrong. It's got to go

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<v Speaker 1>under the neck, under the chin.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, he's definitely silly today. Yeah, one second.

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<v Speaker 1>It's inconceivable if he wore it. Everybody it would the

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<v Speaker 1>stock market would sink, and I'll say that. Okay, ready,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody. You're probably wondering why is Dennis wearing this

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<v Speaker 1>dunce hat. It's not a dunce hat, a party hat,

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<v Speaker 1>and the answer is right here, Episode one hundredth, the

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<v Speaker 1>one hundredth fireside Chat. So it's a big deal. I

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<v Speaker 1>normally would not wear this, but basically Megan, who was

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<v Speaker 1>the unofficial producer of the fireside Chat, asked me to

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<v Speaker 1>do so. She asked my colleague friend and co founder

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, but as he pointed out, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it when he was five, he's certainly not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it now that he's twenty five. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>done it, and happy birthday anniversary to us at fireside Chat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Dennis Prager. This is my home. Otto is busy

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<v Speaker 1>today and you all know atto by now, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is very special. It's the one hundredth one. So I figured,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you meet the person who actually came up

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<v Speaker 1>with the idea of prager you It was not my idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I always make that known. The idea of taking credit

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<v Speaker 1>for something I didn't do actually repulses me. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>big believer. You give credit where it is due. Alan Estrin,

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<v Speaker 1>who is my friend for thirty years, very dear close friend,

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<v Speaker 1>is the one and producer of my radio show for

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<v Speaker 1>many years, is the person who came up with the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And Alan is known to many of you who know

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<v Speaker 1>my radio show is the Living Martyr. It's a funny

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<v Speaker 1>nick that he actually developed on his own, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was so fitting. It's really it stayed. And how many

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<v Speaker 1>years ago it was on a listener cruise. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>taking cruises with my listeners for now about twenty five years,

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<v Speaker 1>and from Antarctica to the North Sea, I mean literally

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<v Speaker 1>all over the world, every continent. On one of those cruises,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Two friends of ours on the cruise approached me and

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<v Speaker 4>they said, we should start a Prager University. Let's do

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<v Speaker 4>something along the lines of Hillsdale. Let's create a new

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<v Speaker 4>place where Dennis's values can be taught. And I thought

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<v Speaker 4>about it for a bit, did a little research, came

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<v Speaker 4>to the conclusion that it would probably cost us about

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred and fifty million dollars to get started, take

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<v Speaker 4>ten years to build a building. Maybe after that time

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<v Speaker 4>we'd have a thousand students graduating. I didn't want us

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<v Speaker 4>take that make that much effort, take that much time.

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<v Speaker 4>But I had another idea that I had been percolating

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<v Speaker 4>about that sort of came together when they made this

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<v Speaker 4>point about a university, which I like, the idea of

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<v Speaker 4>doing something educational at that this was now, I think

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and nine, twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, let how about if we do.

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<v Speaker 4>We really make use of the Internet, let's create something

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<v Speaker 4>on the Internet. So then I started researching what they

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<v Speaker 4>people had been doing educationally on the Internet, and mostly

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<v Speaker 4>what people were doing was they there were education national places,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was a professor standing in front of a

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<v Speaker 4>blackboard talking for an hour, and I knew that's not

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<v Speaker 4>how people are consuming the internet. It's certainly not how

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<v Speaker 4>young people are consuming the Internet. That dovetailed with the

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<v Speaker 4>idea that you have a special gift of being able

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<v Speaker 4>to distill complex ideas into a short, coherent timeframe. So

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<v Speaker 4>then I started thinking about, well, let's make short videos,

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<v Speaker 4>put those on the internet. How long should those videos be?

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<v Speaker 4>And the five minute idea came to me very quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>Just seemed seven minutes just fell too long. Three minutes

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't enough. Five is a nice number, solid number. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>just do five minute videos. And I went to the

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<v Speaker 4>same guys and I said, look, what you want is

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<v Speaker 4>going to cost two hundred million dollars. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>you want to spend that kind of money or raise

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of money. How about some seed money twenty thousand.

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<v Speaker 4>And they said, okay, let's do it, let's try it,

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<v Speaker 4>and they gave us the money and we.

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<v Speaker 1>Went.

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<v Speaker 4>When we got back to Los Angeles, this was months later,

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<v Speaker 4>we made our first few videos, which you actually ad libbed.

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<v Speaker 4>There were no scripts. That's a whole nother process that developed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. I ad libbed, and I remember the first

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East one.

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<v Speaker 3>I it was ad libbed.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go to the actual. By the way, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this is I can't say new to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't remember it, so it's new to me

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<v Speaker 1>for all intensive purposes. So in effect, really it was

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<v Speaker 1>some to other people's idea.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea of a university.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah was U Ron Lee and our dear friend the

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<v Speaker 4>late may rest in peace, Carl Bowman. That's right, they

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<v Speaker 4>had the idea of a university. So yeah, you could

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<v Speaker 4>give them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, that's fine. Like I of course it's yours.

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<v Speaker 1>But but that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, they definitely used the word universe.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you. So you came over to me and

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<v Speaker 1>on the ship. Yeah, correct, that I do remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And then are we playing Hearts?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, which it's amazing you didn't say it during Hearts

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<v Speaker 1>because I I don't allow anything to intrude on beating

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<v Speaker 1>you with One of the goals of my life is

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<v Speaker 1>to win at Hearts at every every time. So you

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<v Speaker 1>must have said it right before or after the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so my reaction, as I remember, was fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was it. I didn't I don't. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get excited.

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<v Speaker 4>I I think you were intrigued by the idea, but

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<v Speaker 4>there was no sense of right, let's let's absolutely we

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<v Speaker 4>have to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>I say to everybody, if someone had said to me

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, you'll have a million views a year,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have said, from your mouth to God's ears,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have not believed it was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>How optimistic were you that something like that could happen?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's actually a tough question for me. It

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<v Speaker 4>raises a bigger issue. I never think. I really don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>Ahead, right, I'm with you, I know, to say it correct.

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<v Speaker 3>How many views was it going to get?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what you need to do?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I didn't even have a sense of what was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of views. If you had said to me,

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<v Speaker 4>this video gets ten thousand views at that point I

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<v Speaker 4>probably said, wow, ten thousand people saw.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that's a good start.

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<v Speaker 4>When the Middle East, the first one we did, the

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<v Speaker 4>Middle East Problem, got one hundred thousand views, right, I

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<v Speaker 4>thought that was beyond belief.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I used to say that like.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty five in the early days, twenty five thousand Jews

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<v Speaker 4>was a single, fifty was a double. One hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 4>was a Grand Slam home run in the bottom of

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<v Speaker 4>the ninth.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you outside of the United States, these

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<v Speaker 1>are baseball terms.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of people watching outside. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be like somebody for us using cricket to describe something. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a home run. And to this.

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<v Speaker 4>Day I don't think about what's it going to be

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<v Speaker 4>like in five Right, we say we have a deadline,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to do something tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a job to do tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Lest that's right, Yeah, that's exactly right. I live that way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Megan, I'd like to talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>because people are told a lot think where are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to be five years from now? I've never thought

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<v Speaker 1>we're all be five years from now. In my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew what I wanted to do with my life,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was that was it. I didn't know where

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<v Speaker 1>I would be in five years, and it didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>What mattered is am I doing something worthwhile now? And

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<v Speaker 1>this was worthwhile. So we started it and we put

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<v Speaker 1>out it wasn't every week.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was initially it was it was like every

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<v Speaker 3>six weeks. I mean, we were just.

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<v Speaker 4>Trying to test the market. We had no no regular pattern.

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<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't even be like every six weeks. It would

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<v Speaker 4>be one week, four weeks, fourteen weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Well was the first one? Wasn't mine on the Middle East?

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<v Speaker 3>The Middle East problem was the first?

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<v Speaker 1>Well interesting? Which is which was redone with a script

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<v Speaker 1>even though the I had lived one worked out well.

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<v Speaker 1>But first of all, most people aren't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to add lib so it wouldn't have worked. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was not a pattern that we could have kept.

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<v Speaker 4>No, and then we knew it wouldn't work. When you

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<v Speaker 4>decided that we couldn't add lib these things because.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though I had lived well, even very.

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<v Speaker 3>Very well stream better than anybody, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be written.

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<v Speaker 3>We made it a term.

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<v Speaker 1>Every word has to be careful because it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Five minutes and every word has to count.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm permanent, exactly right. So now we have a billion

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<v Speaker 1>views a year, and we're also in something else we

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<v Speaker 1>would not have anticipated. We're in a very big battle

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<v Speaker 1>for free speech on the Internet. I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 1>come to realize this battle is so much bigger than prager.

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<v Speaker 5>You.

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<v Speaker 1>If Google can do what it wants to do, the

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<v Speaker 1>conduit of all information practically in the free world and

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<v Speaker 1>is stop us. They put another hundred of ours on

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<v Speaker 1>the restricted list, and that was just because they're angry

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<v Speaker 1>at us.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's very difficult, I think for people to grasp

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<v Speaker 4>how big this lawsuit is. If we lose, then Google, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 4>Twitter truly have a blank check yes to do whatever

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<v Speaker 4>they want.

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<v Speaker 3>They will have.

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<v Speaker 4>There will be the courts will say we're putting no

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<v Speaker 4>restraints on you.

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<v Speaker 3>You have nothing to figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there is only one solution after that, which I

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<v Speaker 1>never even entertained, and it only hit me now, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is that Congress would have to pass some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of law, maybe break up a monopoly. But the threat

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<v Speaker 1>to free speech in America is the greatest in American history.

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<v Speaker 1>And neither you nor I engage in hyperb That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>how serious it is. So I think people would be

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<v Speaker 1>interested as well to know of our relationship. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's we we met. I think we can actually virtually

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<v Speaker 1>date the month because you were asked to write a

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<v Speaker 1>script by David Zucker, the great uh director in Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>who he and his brother did Airplane, which is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the classic films.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to correct just.

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<v Speaker 4>That's accurate, but and I know we both feel this.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to give credit to Rich marky.

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<v Speaker 1>Good please Rich, who was.

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<v Speaker 4>Working with David Zucker at that time as as his producer.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the one who approached me because Rich and

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<v Speaker 4>I were working on a script for Disney at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's actually a funny idea having to do with the

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<v Speaker 4>origin of the Marx Brothers, and he he told me

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<v Speaker 4>that he and David wanted to do an educational video

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<v Speaker 4>with you, and he asked me if I was interested.

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<v Speaker 4>At that point in my writing career, I had made

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<v Speaker 4>the decision that I would not do any writing.

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<v Speaker 3>At all unless I was paid.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just kind of a blanket because I had

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<v Speaker 4>done things and not been paid and didn't work out,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just thought, I gotta be paid or I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a professional screenwriter, that's his profession.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, go on, So I said, who is this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>So he tells me a.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you did not know.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew who you were. I had just started listening

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<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>What year is this?

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<v Speaker 4>This is nineteen ninety one, And the whole backstory of

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<v Speaker 4>how I started listening to you is a whole other story.

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<v Speaker 4>And Rich tells me that he and David want to

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<v Speaker 4>do a project with Dennis Prager. And I said, and

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<v Speaker 4>he couldn't pay me, you know, I said, what are

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<v Speaker 4>you going to pay me anything? No, we don't have

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<v Speaker 4>any money to pay you. And I thought about it

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<v Speaker 4>really overnight, and I called him back and I said, look,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll do it because I want to meet this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I really like the way he thinks. And I broke

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<v Speaker 4>my rule. And then the interesting thing that happened was

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<v Speaker 4>that in preparation for writing, I knew I had heard

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<v Speaker 4>heard you enough to be very very intrigued so to

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<v Speaker 4>prepare for writing the script, which for what became for

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<v Speaker 4>goodness sake, Rich gave me a binder full of Ultimate Issues.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ultimate Issues was a newsletter that I was publishing

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<v Speaker 1>at the time on my own. People who went to

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<v Speaker 1>my speeches subscribed, and that's where I really worked out

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<v Speaker 1>my philosophy of life and my theology.

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<v Speaker 4>So he gives me a binder of the Ultimate Issues,

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<v Speaker 4>and he gives me a box of tapes. Over the

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<v Speaker 4>next I would say week, now we would say binge watch.

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<v Speaker 4>But over the week I consumed read all the Ultimate Issues,

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<v Speaker 4>listened to.

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<v Speaker 3>All the tapes.

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<v Speaker 4>There probably were ten or fifteen tapes. And the one

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<v Speaker 4>that really got me was Why I Am a Jew,

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<v Speaker 4>which was the first recorded lecture you ever sold. And

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<v Speaker 4>in that lecture, it was like you were describing my life.

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<v Speaker 4>I was that person who was so Jews had assimilated

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<v Speaker 4>so successfully in America that we wanted to marry a

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<v Speaker 4>Christian because we just we felt so comfortable. This was

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<v Speaker 4>all this is what was happening to Jews over the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple hundred years.

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<v Speaker 3>So by the time.

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<v Speaker 4>We had our first meeting, I was very, very excited

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<v Speaker 4>to meet you, and I actually brought with me. I

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<v Speaker 4>brought my journal. You know, I keep a journal and

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<v Speaker 4>have since nineteen eighty two or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You have it our first meeting. Yeah, yeah, I have it,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is all new to me, folks. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>Glady this was By the way, he's the most disciplined

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<v Speaker 1>person I know. And I say that totally matter of factly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know why I have to be disciplined? Well, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell them. It's a fascinating theory of yourself that you

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<v Speaker 1>have and of life. But you are. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the many manifestations is that you write every day in

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<v Speaker 1>your journal. And even if it's just the.

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<v Speaker 4>Paragraph, sometimes things are in here that I really don't remember.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, of course, but it's it's fun to look back.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is from nineteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the date?

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<v Speaker 4>Now here's the great thing. I'm just gonna make the

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<v Speaker 4>argument right away. For the journal, you have no idea

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<v Speaker 4>what day we met? You would it would be a

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<v Speaker 4>struggle to figure out the year. You could do it

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<v Speaker 4>if we really.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to go. Sure, I could do the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but and I couldn't either.

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<v Speaker 4>But because of this journey exact I can tell you

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<v Speaker 4>exactly the day we met.

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<v Speaker 3>It was November Monday. I mean, how would you even know?

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<v Speaker 3>Is Monday right?

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<v Speaker 4>Monday, November twenty fifth, nineteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 1>Where where did we meet?

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<v Speaker 4>It was in Century City, in an office in Century City.

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<v Speaker 4>And the headline I often wrote headlines of what happened

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<v Speaker 4>that day met Dennis Prager exclamation point and this is

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<v Speaker 4>what I wrote. Today was an important day in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>I met the man who has changed the way I think,

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<v Speaker 4>Dennis Prager. The occasion was to discuss the outline Susan Silverberg.

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<v Speaker 4>She was the woman who collaborated with us on the

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<v Speaker 4>script and I have done for the Goodness video.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it was called at the time. If in my.

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<v Speaker 4>It is my fond wish that this will be the

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<v Speaker 4>first of many meetings with DP. To have this great

0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:30.000
<v Speaker 4>man as my friend would indeed be an honor. The

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<v Speaker 4>work he is doing is of such great value and importance.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I'm so delighted to be a part of

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<v Speaker 4>this video project, the project which will help spread his

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<v Speaker 4>and then I put in quote his gospel ethical Monotheism.

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<v Speaker 4>The meeting itself went better than I expected. DP was

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<v Speaker 4>wildly enthusiastic. At one point, he said that this was

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<v Speaker 4>one of quote best moments of his life. He sees

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<v Speaker 4>that and I underline that he sees that much value

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<v Speaker 4>in this video. His enthusiasm was both rewarding and infectious.

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<v Speaker 4>It was also inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>God, is that moving? Really? I really moved. I never

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<v Speaker 1>This is all new to me. That's the beauty of

0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.720
<v Speaker 1>having a journal. I wish I kept one, but I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked my father if my late father on an interview,

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<v Speaker 1>I interviewed him on my radio show every year on

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<v Speaker 1>his birthday. I asked him, we heard it this year

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:41.479
<v Speaker 1>because we replay some of them. Dad, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any regrets? None? I do. This is certainly one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, it's important that people know you can

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<v Speaker 1>watch what we made yet with some of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>actors in Hollywood, thanks to David Zucker with his contacts,

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's on the internet. I mean, it's free, right,

0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.560
<v Speaker 1>people could just watch it. It's called for goodness sake,

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's really worth it. It's very funny, very funny,

0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's about goodness and especially kids should see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen ninety one is twenty eight years ago, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>when we met twenty eight years ago. And I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't keep a journal, but I remember very well

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<v Speaker 1>meeting you, and I was very excited meeting you. So

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<v Speaker 1>you were excited meeting me. I was, well, I see,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so typically it's like my other spouse, my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>She would laugh too. It's very fine people in my

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<v Speaker 1>life and humble. But that was it was obviously very

0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 1>important at that meeting, and so we collaborated on the

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 1>script and folks, you could watch this this. And then

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.880
<v Speaker 1>we did two more with David Zucker. We did one

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<v Speaker 1>on and it's just as relevant. I saw it's also

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet, and it's it's about diversity. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really really, really worth seeing. And then I don't remember

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.879
<v Speaker 1>what the third was, but the and I did the

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<v Speaker 1>diversity one with Larry Eldert.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did a sequel. We called it

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<v Speaker 4>for goodness sake to oh okay, fine, but it was

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<v Speaker 4>it was two parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really really worth you folks watching.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a little funny story about about the second

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:37.560
<v Speaker 4>one we did. David could not direct the second one.

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:41.639
<v Speaker 4>He was busy, so he said to us, look, I

0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.760
<v Speaker 4>can't do it. But I can recommend somebody. I met

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:52.120
<v Speaker 4>these two guys there. They're very talented. They're from Denver, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 4>They just arrived in Los Angeles. I think they would

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<v Speaker 4>be good for this project. And we said, look, David,

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 4>you know you're the comedy genius. If you say they're good,

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:12.480
<v Speaker 4>they're good. Their names were Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

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<v Speaker 4>The first project Trey Parker and Matt Stone did in

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 4>Hollywood was for goodness sake too. They arrived in Hollywood

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<v Speaker 4>in a a Honda beat up Honda Civic and that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's how they started.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, I know, I know what you'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>and I agree with you. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think it had a big influence on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, I do believe that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean we even there's even a term. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean South Park Republicans. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 4>they're they're right Republicans. I'm just saying their viewpoint was

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<v Speaker 4>definitely shaped, I think in a very good way. I

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<v Speaker 4>told that experience.

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I felt it then and I've felt it since.

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<v Speaker 3>Not too many people know that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, the no, no, I'm sure their origin story.

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure almost nobody does. Anyway, it's all available on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet. So the rest, as they say, is history.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it'll interest you, you folks watching this,

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that I worked for years to convince you to be

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the producer of my radio show. And the reason that

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:36.399
<v Speaker 1>it took me years he didn't want anything to even

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>possibly interfere in our friendship. And I was certain it wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You were not You were not a certain And what

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you understandably were hesitant about was I remember, and I

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 1>have no problem saying it. Would I would I take

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 1>criticism because the producer of a radio show who never

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>has a criticism of the quote unquote talent, that's what

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>they're called, the people on the microphone, is useless. How

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>do you get better if if nobody's critiquing you, It's

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>not possible. And so I assured you would, assured you would,

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:21.360
<v Speaker 1>assured you fatally you took the leap. So I think

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.919
<v Speaker 1>they're curious. Can I take criticism?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you can take criticism, and I can give it.

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<v Speaker 4>You could take it. I can give it. But you know,

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 4>something goes both ways. Yes, I mean there's no.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't hesitate. Hesitated because it's only for the greater good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. What That's another subject I should talk. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you know if if you're criticized out of love

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:50.880
<v Speaker 1>or criticized with with with darker motives, and and and

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.880
<v Speaker 1>how to handle that and how to give it? How

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>to give it is as important as how to take it.

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<v Speaker 4>We both had the same goal, which is to make

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<v Speaker 4>the product better. Yes, exactly. That's all that ever matters.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all that matters at peguer You. It's all that

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 4>anybody comes up with a better idea, right. We have

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:15.880
<v Speaker 4>a very horizontal structure at peguer You. Everybody contributes. Anybody

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 4>has a better idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Will will this is this is the power of being

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<v Speaker 1>united with a higher value. Your ego gets gets bumped

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>out it it doesn't, it doesn't play a detrimental role.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's the case at praguer You. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>case on our radio show. And that's uh and that

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>we have a lot We have a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio show. I mean you have to admit it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a unique. I mean when you speak

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>about having fun and alan, you have to put it

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<v Speaker 1>in perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>I have.

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 4>I doing the radio show is a great deal of fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I love doing it. And at the same time, when

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing it, I'm all business.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's all business.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking every second I know of the show, is

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 4>this working? Is not working? And I can't and you

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<v Speaker 4>can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>I no one can imagine the amount of work that

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>goes into the show, both on your part and my part.

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>People think, which is what I want them to think,

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<v Speaker 1>that I show up, you know, shoot the breeze and

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>go home. On the amount that's going in my brain

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 1>at any given moment, the amount of preparation the night before,

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the amount of preparation you do. People who subscribe to

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 1>the show, and it is a great idea, get it

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 1>without commercials called pragotopia. It's five dollars a month pregatopia

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>dot com. You will not only get the show at

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>any time and keep it and it's very powerful stuff,

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but you will get all the articles he sends me

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the night before. This is like a living compendium of

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 1>what's happening on earth through our eyes, because he knows

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>exactly what I want, and you get his brilliant, pithy

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>one line comment, Oh it is no no, no, Sue,

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<v Speaker 1>And I live for it. I sometimes burst out laughing

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 1>at your dismissal of a fool in one sentence, it's anyway,

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a pray gootopia. I'm not trying to sell you anything,

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>but I do want you to know about it. But

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 1>it's an extraordinary thing to do something every day for

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>three hours. It's intense.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you have a great phrase for it, which is

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 4>the radio's relentless mistress.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>She never right, very demanding.

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and people expect you on every day and I'm

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>on almost every days. It's intense. It's a fantastic job. Fantastic,

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I think God.

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<v Speaker 4>Not only every day, but they're they're the people. Most

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 4>people don't listen to the radio for three hours, so

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 4>we whatever, ten minute, fifteen minute. They may go away

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 4>and come back, but we have to get them whenever

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 4>they tune in, which is why, as you say, everything,

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<v Speaker 4>every moment has to be interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well that's did I do? I keep looking at Megan?

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Did we Did I do something on interesting? Did I do?

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I did a commentary on the fireside chat

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>on the importance of being interesting. Check into that, because

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>if that's it's so obvious when you say it, but

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>people don't think about it. It is It is the

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>key to all communication, all communication of any type, musical, artistic, intellectual, religious,

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. So anyway we were, you know, I don't.

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, you know, it's like God

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>brought us together. I'm always hesitant because I don't know

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>if I'm special enough that God will intervene in my life.

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>But if he does, he brought us together. I'll put

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>it that way. You're less hesitant, not because of lack

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>of humility, but I think you're Are you more comfortable

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>with saying God has acted in your life?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more comfortable than you are. There are people who

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 4>are I think more comfortable than me, right, But I'm

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 4>a little further along on the scale than you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. And not only that, but I have had Saturday

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>afternoon lunch Sabbath Day in Judaism lunch with Alan and

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>his wife Susye for now how many years and one

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<v Speaker 1>other couple.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that started like in nineteen ninety three. We

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 3>started doing that on.

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<v Speaker 1>A regular so that's twenty five years. Yeah, that's another

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>incredible bond that obviously we have. It's a very rich life.

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's we're and we're both unbelievably grateful. I

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>know that. So that's that's how Praguer you started. That's

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>our relationships. It's truly a great one. And to when

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I speak on the radio about the importance of friendship,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm talking about because I have benefited

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>my whole life from male friends and not that. And

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I believe women do from women friends. I'm a big

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>believer in same sex friendship. Have I done a thing

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>on friends? I think I have. Anyway, I'm always afraid

0:31:56.200 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of repeating myself, which is stupid because nobody, including me,

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't get a point the first time you got

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to hear something over and over and over and over. Anyway,

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that's a big one. So should I take some questions?

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<v Speaker 1>Or have we already exhausted our time? We're at thirty

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>while look at that by Bradley. I have a clock inside,

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know. Maybe, yeah, take a question, Okay,

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with it. I love the questions, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So here Sarah thirty three, Modesto, California. Hi, Sarah. On

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<v Speaker 1>a recent fireside chat, you said something that resonated with me.

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<v Speaker 1>If you learn to compromise your values, when will you stop?

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<v Speaker 1>This was about parents who call me up and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what should I tell my daughter. She's at college and

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>she knows that if she expresses a non left wing thought,

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>she'll be penalized by her professor and get a lower grade,

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>which happens regularly. And so I always say to them,

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<v Speaker 1>look and tell you what to tell your child. Of course,

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.479
<v Speaker 1>but you're calling me up. I'll just this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I would tell my child, that if you start to

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<v Speaker 1>compromise your values for grades, when will you stop compromising

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>your values? And it's not a rhetorical question, it's a

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>very real question. You might say, Okay, I know I

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>will compromise my values to get a good grade, but

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>after that I won't. Okay, But it's a question you

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>have to ask yourself. And I know Ben Shapiro from

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I have enormous respect. I mean, he was a colleague

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and a friend and it does incredibly important work. And

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Ben Shapiro and I were both scholars or speakers that

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>are retreat pass over a holiday and this subject came up,

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and he said, this is one of the few areas

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Dennis and I differ. He said, I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>important to get conservatives into Harvard and Yale and Princeton

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and Berkeley, and then in Stanford and so on. That

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you've got to just keep your mouth

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>shut about your your your conservative ideas, it's worth it.

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And I respect that. So I'm giving you you, Sarah

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>an argument in that regard. But from from my perspective,

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>uh I I rather I rather have people fight and

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>end up at less prestigious universities or graduate schools, because,

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 1>as I said, I think if you if you compromise,

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you pretty much don't stop. Then then she writes, do

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you think this applies to friendships? If two people have

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>completely different values, can they still be friends? Well, it

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>depends on what the definition of a friend is. For me,

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 1>a friend is someone that you that you share your most,

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you say anything to. That's the the ultimate goal. I

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>believe of a friend is someone I could talk to

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>about anything. But if you're going to talk to them

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>about your values and then even the nicest friend say,

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, I reject them completely. I mean that I

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>have the opposite view on everyone. Of course, it has

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to affect the friendship. Do you have any thoughts on this?

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<v Speaker 4>My thought is the same as yours. I mean, it's

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 4>very hard for me. I mean, people talk about this

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 4>all the time.

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 3>I wanted.

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 4>It's hard to be friends. You can be acquaintances.

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>And pals that you can be friendly.

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 4>Friendly with, But to be friends with somebody who doesn't

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 4>share your values, that's tough. I'm not sure i'd even

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 4>want it. I wouldn't want to work that hard unless

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 4>you felt you you could persuade them to come to

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 4>your point of view and that you it was kind

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 4>of like a worthwhile project.

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Of course. Look, there are people who know someone you

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>know since fifth grade and they have such a bond

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>from childhood. I guess if you could just and then

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>then ignore it, I guess. But ultimately, values are too important.

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know that's that's to a large extent

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to who we are, what do we stand for. It's

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>a tough one. I mean, it's really tough. I'll tell

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you this, this I am adamant about. I don't want

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>people to drop I'm not saying drop friends, and I

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>certainly want you to keep your relatives as in a

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>loving way. But if you're dating somebody and don't share values, that,

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. You know. Let me put it bluntly, I

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 1>don't care how good the sex is it doesn't matter.

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>It's because I can't imagine what else is keeping people

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>who don't share values together to be perfectly honest? Is

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>that fair, Rod, It's I think that that's the realistic way. Okay,

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll take one more here, Is that all right? Yeah?

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Zayid twenty six in Jordan. I asked Megan to make

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 1>a list of the countries that we just got questions from.

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we don't even know every country. Well, we do, really,

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you do, I think that don't we get reports from

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the Internet on what countries people are watching. Yeah, it's

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>an enormous number. I mean it's basically all over the world.

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 4>The only place that doesn't watch Breaker You videos is

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 4>North Korea.

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>And this in particular, the fireside chat, everything has taken

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>off beyond anything we imagined. This is seven hundred thousand

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>every week. And by the way, I just want to

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>say to those of you, a lot of you are regulars,

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and I really appreciate it. I'd like to double that number.

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>And all you need to do is, you know, tell

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 1>somebody else about it. It's even if they don't agree,

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it is interesting and that's that's important. So

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>here's Aid and Jordan. Hello Dennis. I'm a Christian and

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful for my country Jordan protecting their Christian community

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>despite the Muslim majority. But I still have some serious criticisms.

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>My distant uncle was murdered due to the lack of

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>freedom of speech in Jordan. Seeing the Western nations restrict

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>freedom of speech disturbs me as I've seen the effects

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 1>of it firsthand. Is there any hope or solution to

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>grant freedom of speech rights to the rest of the

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>world's nations, especially Middle East countries. Well, I will just

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you this, Zaid. The bad news is that the

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>freest country in human history is having the most important

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 1>internal battle since the Civil War over slavery, the war

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>for free speech. The left is opposed to free speech

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>and the right and and for that matter, even sent

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the center or adamantly for it is. This is the battle, Prager,

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you is fighting. This is the battle at universities. It's

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>free speech is a value, It's not a human instinct.

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 1>People want to control other people. People are afraid of

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>free speech. They might hear something they don't agree with.

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 1>So it's worse than your question. You're worried about it

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>spreading to Middle Eastern countries. And by the way, I

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>agree with you, and I salute you for it. But

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>if we in America, the country of the Statue of liberty,

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>if we can't protect because one of the two political parties,

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and and and and the media and the social media,

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and the and the the educational institutions and the newspapers

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>are suppressing free speech, this is this is the battle

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>at this time. Any any thoughts, Allen.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it kind of takes us back to our case

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 4>and in against YouTube. Yeah, that this is truly the

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 4>the tip of that spear. And I think it's important

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 4>not only for the US, it's because of the US

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.879
<v Speaker 4>leads if we've as you point out, if we if

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 4>we fall down on this issue, it's going to be

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 4>a very bad thing for everybody, for the whole world.

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'll just end with this. The left

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and rewrites history and rewrites language so that for example,

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>they were no longer illegal immigrants, there's now undocumented immigrants.

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>As I've said a number of times on our radio show,

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll rename burglary or or a bank robbery and

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>undocumented withdrawal. Uh I do you know, I just read.

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you know that they're getting rid of the disabled

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>list in baseball?

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Did you know that they've gotten rid of it?

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>They got rid of it because it implies that disabled

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>means that you can't play, but the disabled can play.

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>But what if your disability comes from an injury, which

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is what usually happens.

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:41.720
<v Speaker 4>It's silly, but it's not silly. This constantly, it's frightening.

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's correct. It's it's it's meaningless. But but I mean,

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's a trivial example. It's that's you know, if

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>that was the only example, I wouldn't but it happens

0:41:55.200 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 1>everywhere anyway. Alan, Oh wow, you did bring a cake.

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 1>It was curious. Oh cheese, sheep cheese with not only

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>sheep cheese, sheep cheese with handlewax. That's the best type

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 1>of sheep cheese. Thank you. That's very sweet. Oh you've

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>got a chance to see maybe.

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 3>That truly cheesecake. That's like a slice of cheese.

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.360
<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's just like that is cheese. That is

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 1>not cheesecake, right, this is cheese, and that's very sweet.

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe it's the hundredth one. This is obviously

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 1>very meaningful to us. Because I'm a busy guy and

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I never missed this.

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 3>It's a great example of one of my You know,

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 3>I have lots.

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Of rules, and yes, your rules are terrific.

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 4>And I don't take credit for this one, and I

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 4>wish I could give credit to the where I first

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:58.919
<v Speaker 4>heard it. But this idea, you can't accomplish a lot

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 4>in a day or a week, but you can in

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 4>a year. The people stop themselves from doing things because

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<v Speaker 4>they can't achieve what they want immediately. But if you

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<v Speaker 4>think about giving a project a year to develop, So

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<v Speaker 4>here's a great example, because that's fifty two fireside chats

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<v Speaker 4>and a year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's serious.

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<v Speaker 3>That's serious.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, Oh well, how are they blowing out on

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<v Speaker 1>their own? I want that to blow them out? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it because of the air conditioning? All right? So I

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<v Speaker 1>wish many many more years working with you. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a good wish?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good wish.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, everybody onward and upward to number one hundred one day. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Allen, thank you tomorrow on Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager.

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<v Speaker 1>And something that has puzzled me pretty much my whole

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<v Speaker 1>life is this we call the generation of World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>It has now become fashionable, at least to call that

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<v Speaker 1>generation the greatest generation. I I don't buy that. I

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<v Speaker 1>have great admiration for my parents' generation absolutely fought World

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<v Speaker 1>War II, the Korean War, and much of the Cold War,

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<v Speaker 1>and the sacrifices made at home through the families that

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<v Speaker 1>stayed back and then, and the numbers of Americans who

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<v Speaker 1>died abroad and and just just went under either a

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<v Speaker 1>draft or a volunteer to go and fight either the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese fascists or the Nazis. Is it is? It's there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of greatness in that generation. Absolutely, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say it's the greatest general. Is it greater

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<v Speaker 1>than the generation of Jan Washington and the founders of

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<v Speaker 1>the country. That's an odd statement.

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<v Speaker 5>Join us tomorrow to hear more on Timeless Wisdom with

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