1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: You're listening to every Day Prayers with Million Praying Moms. 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Nicolette Bell, and we're here to help 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: you praise God's word for your family. I'm here today 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: with my friend Shaleene Robert Shaleen, welcome back to the show. 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, and good morning. And it's early for you 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: and I this morning. 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: I know we are recording early because we both have 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: family things going on today, so we are recording early. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: Off I'm still drinking my coffee over here. So we 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: are continuing on in our Summer book club, and I 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: am so excited. This is our first kind of little 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: touch points since we've really gotten started in the book club, 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: and we've already finished week four. Like if you're listening today, 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: this is the end of week four, which is so exciting. 16 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: We are going through and we are learning so much 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: and reading along in the book. But I do want 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: to tell you but before we get started today, even 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: if you're not reading along with us, please keep listening 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: because it's just a conversation that we're going to be 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: having about motherhood and you're going to be able to 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: catch in and catch on even if you aren't reading along. 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 2: So don't hit the Ford button just because you haven't 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: been reading with us. We've got plenty of encouragement for 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: you today. And I'm so excited about our conversation. So Sheleene, 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: just kind of get us started. Give us an update 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: on kind of where we've been. We've already finished part 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: one of your book. Tell us where we've been, what 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: were the highlights, and then kind of where are we 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: right now in our reading? And I do just need 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: to say for everyone that is maybe listening to this 32 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: for the first time or tuning in with us for 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: the first time, Selene's book that we are going through 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: this summer is titled When Mothering Is Hard and No 35 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: One Sees And every time I read the title, I 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: just think, yep, we can all relate to that so 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: so much. And so I am just excited to get 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: to have this conversation with you today. So Shellann, give 39 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: us a little update. Where have we been through through 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: part one? 41 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, it's my pleasure. So we started part one. 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: We started, you know, four weeks ago with the Broken 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Beautiful And in the Broken Beautiful that section we go 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: all the way back to the garden and we look 45 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: at God's design for motherhood, because it's all the way 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: back in the garden with Adam and Eve that we 47 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: see this picture that He gives for motherhood. And so 48 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: it's shortly after you know, God creates Adam, he creates Eve. 49 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: They're in the garden, they have perfect fellowship, perfect intimacy 50 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: with the Father, and then that fellowship and that intimacy 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: is broken because the sin enters, you know, they're tempted 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: by a tempter, they're tempted by an enemy, and sin 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: enters the picture, and there's brokenness that enters this picture. 54 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: And so through that brokenness we see that God actually 55 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: gives Eve a direct purse but also an indirect promise. 56 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: And the direct curse is that she will have pain 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: and child bearing, there will be brokenness and pain, and 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: that her desire will be for her husband and he 59 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: will rule over her. But the indirect promise is that 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: through the seed of the woman, God will bring about 61 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: a savior who will crush the enemy's head. And so 62 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: through that indirect promise we see all the way back 63 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: in the garden that God really ordained motherhood to be 64 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: a vehicle of redemption and his plan for motherhood that 65 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: started all the way back in that garden is still 66 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: continuing to unfold today, and that tapestry of that story 67 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: that's being told, that's being woven throughout history. We are 68 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: still playing a part. God still invites us as mothers 69 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: to play a role in his plan for redemption. And 70 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: I've said this before and I'll say it again in 71 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: case somebody's new and is listening. I am not saying 72 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: that you or I play the same role as Eve, 73 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: and I am not saying we play the same role 74 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: as Mary. That is not what I'm saying. But because 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: God ordained motherhood as a way for us to bring 76 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: about sons and daughters and then wore out the goodness 77 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: and the grace and the knowledge of the Gospel to 78 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: those children so that they may in turn go out 79 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: and tell a desperate, hurting world of the goodness of 80 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Because that is his plan for motherhood. We 81 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: are still partnering with Him in his radical redemption of 82 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: his people. And so that's where we started in part one. 83 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we dove into the deep end looking at 84 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: the brokenness and how brokenness affects us today, and then 85 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: God's plan, you know, his incredible, beautiful plan for motherhood 86 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: and how we're still getting to play a part in 87 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: that today. So that's where we been, and now we're 88 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: jumping into part two in the book, and part two starts. 89 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: Let's see, I actually have the book right in front 90 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: of me, so I'm gonna go ahead and look at this. 91 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: So we dive into. So part two is the Kingdom Come. 92 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: And in the next couple of weeks we're going to 93 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: be diving into talking about the kingdom among us and 94 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: the fact that God's kingdom that he established all the 95 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: way back in the beginning is still at play and 96 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: we are still playing an active role in that kingdom. 97 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: His kingdom is not this abstract kingdom in the clouds. 98 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we can tend to think of God's 99 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: kingdom as something that's coming. His kingdom is coming, and 100 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: I will take part in this kingdom when I'm on 101 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: the other side of heaven, or his kingdom is coming 102 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: when he comes to re establish his reign with a 103 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: second coming. But his kingdom is here. It is now. 104 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: God said that he came to give us life and 105 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: to give it to us to the full so that 106 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: we would have abundant life. And that abundant life than 107 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: the Kingdom is available to us here and now. So 108 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: we're going to be looking at the Kingdom around us 109 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: today and how we are able to be involved in 110 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: that kingdom and how God gives us glimpses of that kingdom. 111 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: And we're going to dive into some hard stuff and 112 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: were talking about spiritual warfare too in this section. Yeah. Wow, 113 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: that's such a great recap, Slena. 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: That is a great way to just kind of foil 115 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: it all down and what we've been able to cover 116 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: so far. And if you have missed any of the 117 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: first four we just go back and tune in to 118 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: the podcast that we've done so far and read along 119 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: because there is so much truth in those foundational chapters 120 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: that kind of set us up for the rest of 121 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: the conversation that we're going to be having. That understanding 122 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: our role as mothers and our call as mothers and 123 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: our commissioning as mothers really really makes a difference for 124 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: how we talk about the way that we interact with 125 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: our child and interact with in our relationship with God 126 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: as well. So I do want to dig into the 127 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: Kingdom Come portion of your book because I think that 128 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: sometimes we can get so overwhelmed by laundry and children 129 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: and questions and the running from this activity to this activity. 130 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: Even church activities can be demanding. So we've got so 131 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: much on us as mothers. I find at the end 132 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: of the day, I'm like, oh, I didn't even think 133 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: about this all day. When my kids are finally asleep, 134 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: it's like my brain can start to work. I feel 135 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: like at the end of the day, and so you know, 136 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: whatever it is that you are running around doing as 137 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: a mom, we're all running around doing something usually, and 138 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: so it's like I can't even get my clothes washed 139 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: or my dishwasher emptied, or dinner on the table. In 140 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: the world am I supposed to think about? Didn't have 141 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: the capacity to think about the Kingdom coming and spiritual warfare. 142 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 2: But in the same sense, how can I not think 143 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: about those things if I'm a Christ follower, and if 144 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm a Jesus follower, and if I'm trying to raise 145 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: my children in that same light and in that same way. 146 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: So we've discussed this past week. The week before we 147 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: discussed the Kingdom among Us and the Kingdom aware, and 148 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: then this upcoming I'm sorry. This week we discussed the 149 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: Kingdom at war and the Kingdom Eternal, and then coming up, 150 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the Kingdom command. And I 151 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: think that I just want to spend a little bit 152 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: of time kind. 153 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: Of just talking about these things. 154 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: So when we talk about the Kingdom among us, you 155 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: kind of alluded to it a minute ago, but let's 156 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: really kind of delve in what does it look like 157 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: for us to realize as moms that the Kingdom is 158 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: actually among us, that we have the Holy Spirit with 159 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: us in our day to day activities. 160 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that you. I mean, you're so right. 161 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: It is so easy to get so distracted and to 162 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: just keep focused on the urgent tasks that have to 163 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: be done. You know, as a mom, there are so 164 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: many things that pull at us physically, emotionally, spiritually, mentally. 165 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: The load is just so heavy and so we're constantly 166 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: juggling all of these things. So to keep a mindset 167 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: that the Kingdom is among us is very hard, and 168 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: so we are going to in part three, we're actually 169 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: going to talk about three specific spiritual disciplines that will 170 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: help us stay tethered to the vine so that we 171 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: can keep that awareness that the Kingdom is among us. 172 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: But I think honestly, the most important thing is just 173 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: finding in little ways. So I say in the book, 174 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: you cannot expect to tuck the Kingdom of God into 175 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: your motherhood. You have to tuck your motherhood into the Kingdom. 176 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is for us, repeat that, 177 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: for us, you can't. You can't. We can't expect. We 178 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: can't tuck our We can't tuck the Kingdom of God 179 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: into our motherhood. We have to tuck our motherhood into 180 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: the Kingdom of God. And so what I mean by 181 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: that is we can't invert it. We can't expect to 182 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: be so immersed in motherhood and the day to day 183 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: tasks and all of the demands and then kind of 184 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: seek the Kingdom of God on this side and be transformed. 185 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: That is not going to happen, and it's not going 186 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: to work. What we actually have to do is, you know, 187 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: the Bible tells us seek first the Kingdom of God, 188 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: and all these things shall be added to you. So 189 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: when he says all these things, he means all these 190 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: things everything that we need for life and health and thriving, 191 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: and everything that we need to be able to manage 192 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: our family, to love them, to serve them, to pour 193 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: out you know, the grace of God to them. All 194 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: of that is found if we seek the Kingdom of 195 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: God first. And so we have to make the Kingdom 196 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: of God a priority in our life. And I know 197 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: that that can be really hard as a busy mom 198 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: with little ones running around. You know, you're changing diapers, 199 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: and you're you're refereeing sibling squabblings, and you're driving to 200 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: and from carpool line and all of the things. But 201 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: it's really important that we I think the most important thing, 202 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: and this has been important in my own life, is 203 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: just asking the Lord and just praying and just saying, Lord, 204 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: i have X, Y and Z on my plate today, 205 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: and I'm so busy and I'm so overwhelmed, and I 206 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: don't know how I'm going to get all of this done, 207 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: and I don't even feel like I have time to 208 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: seek you. Please show me, help me to carb out 209 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: the time to spend you know, fifteen twenty ten minutes 210 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: with you, and he will answer that. What I have 211 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: found in my own life is the days that I 212 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: feel so busy and I'm overwhelmed and I feel like 213 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't there's no way I can sit down and 214 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, spend fifteen minutes reading the Word, or there's 215 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: no way I can spend fifteen minutes in prayer when 216 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: I actually do that, by some miracle, you know, God 217 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: is outside of time. He holds time, and by some 218 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: miracle he actually I find it on those days, He 219 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: is expanding my time and giving me the capacity to 220 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: get everything done that I need to get done, and 221 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: then I end up having over it at the end 222 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: of the day, like there's actually left over time because 223 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: I have sought Him first. So it is so important 224 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: that we make it a priority and we ask him 225 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: for open my eyes to see your kingdom, help me 226 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: to seek. You, give me the time, help me to 227 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: get all of these things done, and seek. I mean, 228 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: the Bible is so clear, seek first the Kingdom of God. 229 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: We're talking about the Kingdom of God, and the words 230 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: Kingdom of God are literally in that verse. Seek first 231 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: the Kingdom of God, and all these things will be 232 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: added to you. And I mean, I'm speaking to my 233 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: own I'm this, I'm preaching to myself here, because it's 234 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: also important to understand that that versus seek first. It 235 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: doesn't say seek second, seek third, or seek you know, 236 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: when you get everything done, it's seek first, and so 237 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: we really do have to make it a priority that 238 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: we are seeking God's kingdom first. And that may mean 239 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: you're waking up, you know, you're trying to wake up 240 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: twenty minutes early so that you get some time with 241 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: the Lord before you're told me to wake up. It 242 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: may mean, and I know we've talked about this before, 243 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: it may mean you keep your Bible by the stove 244 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: and as you are preparing breakfast for the children, or 245 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: you're in there doing whatever you need to do, cleaning 246 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: up from last night. You're spending some time reading the 247 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: Word in the Psalms, you know, and then you're spending 248 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: five minutes in prayer. It doesn't have to be a 249 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: forty five minute to an hour Bible study, but it 250 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: is important that we seek frist the kingdom of God, 251 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: and then He will give us everything that we need. 252 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: And it may even be that you have a crazy 253 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: day and you are rashing to an appointment, but in 254 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: the car, rather than turning on you know, music or 255 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: whatever podcast or whatever you're listening to, you know, the 256 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: Bible and you're listening to a devotional as you're driving 257 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: to work. It's just finding different ways to teck our 258 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: day into the Kingdom of God and then knowing that 259 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: He's going to give us everything that we need. Yeah, 260 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: that's so good that there's so much there. 261 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: I think, you know, for me right now in the season, 262 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: I'm nursing a little one, and so very rarely do 263 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: I get up before he does, just because his timing 264 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: is very unpredictable. This week it happened I was able 265 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: to wake up before him and actually like write in 266 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: my prayer journal and I just jump in and love 267 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: those moments. But on the days it doesn't, I've had 268 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: to just give myself a lot of grace. And so 269 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: what our quiet time looks like right now is I 270 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: play my Bible app and I have it sitting up 271 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: on my nursing pillow as I'm nursing, and we listen 272 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: to the Bible together. And so I was joking with 273 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: my husband, I'm like, well, THEO is gonna have listened 274 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: to all the Bible by the time he's in his 275 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: first year, right, because that's what I'm doing, and he's 276 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: kind of a lot with me, and so but it 277 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: just looks different. Yes, yeah, absolutely, So you know, just 278 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: giving myself grace and it doesn't always look like the 279 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: way I want it to look or whatever, and like 280 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: God's not in heaven going, hey, this doesn't look the 281 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: way it's supposed to look. He's just glad that we're 282 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: meeting with him and we're seeking him. And I do 283 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: try to do that before I look at my email 284 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: or I look at social media or whatever in the 285 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: mornings that I don't do that. If I do that 286 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: in reverse, I can feel like an anxiousness in my 287 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: spirit that's not there on those other other days. And 288 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: so it's amazing that we kind of have some control 289 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: over that in just our action. And I'll tell you 290 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: that's one of my very favorite scriptures from Jesus's Sermon 291 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: on the Mount and I actually have it written on 292 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: my refrigerator right. 293 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: By the handle. It's a post it note right by 294 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: my refrigerator handle. 295 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: Speak first, sekinghom of God, because how many times do 296 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: you open your refrigerator door a day? So now I've 297 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: got a scripture right next to the handle on my 298 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: refrigerator door to help me remember to seek first thing. 299 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,479 Speaker 2: It's in a spot that I can see it regularly, 300 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: because it doesn't matter how many time I read it. 301 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: I need that reminder again and again and again and again, 302 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: because my heart is always turned to other things and 303 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: in not seeking him first, and so I just want 304 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: to be reminded of that over and over. 305 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love what you said. You mentioned that 306 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: you give yourself grace. I think that is so important. 307 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: So there's a verse in Isaiah where it says, and 308 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: maybe we've talked about this, I don't remember, but it 309 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: says he gently leads those with young, And I remember 310 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: when I was doing the research for this book, that 311 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: verse jumped off the pages at me because I realize 312 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: God has a certain tenderness towards those with young because 313 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: he knows the demand on us. He knows how stretched 314 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: then we are. He knows that we are pouring ourselves out. 315 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: He knows that we need an extra measure of grace, 316 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: and so he is not demanding, He is not requiring. 317 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: He gently leads those with young. And so I just 318 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: want to encourage you. If you're listening to this and 319 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're stressed, and you're exhausted, and you're 320 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: poured out, he is gently leading you. He's a good shepherd, 321 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: and he has a gender. Come to him, pour everything 322 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: out before him. I actually was just so I just 323 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: shared this on my Instagram. You know, the verse be 324 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: still and know that he is God. So I think 325 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: sometimes and I talk about this in the book too, 326 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we tend to think of be still 327 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: as like a mother who kind of leans over her 328 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: fidgety child in church, and it's like, be still, you know, 329 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: be still, And so we think of it as something 330 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: where we're not doing anything. We're supposed to sit on 331 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: our hands and not doing anything and just kind of 332 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: sit there. That's actually not what that verse means. So 333 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: the Hebrew word for be still and that verse is rafa, 334 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: and it means cease striving. And so when God is 335 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: telling us to be still, he's not like a mother 336 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: who's telling her fidgeting child sits still. He's coming to 337 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: us saying, you're striving, lay everything down before me, were 338 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: it all out? And it also means to sink or 339 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: to relax, So it's more like a mother who takes 340 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: her exhausted child ooh to or are and just wraps 341 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: him up and says, hey, sink into me and cease striving. 342 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: And that's what the invitation is into the Kingdom of God. 343 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: It's an invitation to cease our striving and trust that 344 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: he holds it. He holds it all, He has it 345 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: all in control. Everything that we have to do for 346 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: the day, he is holding all of that in his hands, 347 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: and he gives us the capacity. It's in it's by 348 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's in our weakness. He is strong, and 349 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: so he holds everything together and we're able to just 350 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: come to him and just stink into him and cease 351 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: our striving. And that's the invitation to seek the kingdom first. 352 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: Is it's this invitation to come to him in the morning, 353 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: or to come to him when we can pour everything 354 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: out and just sink into him and know that, hey, 355 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: it's his kingdom he has he holds it all, and 356 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: he has it all under control, you know, in his 357 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: in his divine power. So yeah, I love it. I 358 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: love what you say. And that's so good. And that 359 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: image of sinking. 360 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 2: And my baby's been sick this week and he would 361 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: get so upset and so worked up because he didn't 362 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: feel good, and you know, I was trying everything to 363 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: console him and comfort him. And then I remember one 364 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: specific time this week that he finally just gave in 365 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: and he was overly exhausted in all of the things. 366 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: But I literally felt this whole little body just relax 367 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: and go limb. Yeah, and that surrender to the rest 368 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: that his body needed. 369 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: And that's what that makes me think of, Right, God 370 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: can be holding this up. 371 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,239 Speaker 2: And sometimes we're still squirming and fighting and yelling and 372 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: kicking and screaming and all of the things. 373 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: But that moment when we finally just go, okay, okay, 374 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: we trust you. 375 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: We trust that you're holding us up when we can't 376 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: then hold ourselves up, and that He's the one that's 377 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: sustaining us. And I want to go back just a 378 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: second to that concept of tucking ourselves into tucking our 379 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: motherhood into the kingdom instead of the other way around. Wow, 380 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 2: that is like, that's that is so different from how 381 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 2: we think about things in our day today. You know, 382 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: are we pursuing the kingdom and our motherhood is just 383 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: part of that instead of I've got to insert some 384 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: Jesus into my motherhood. Right, this task that's always before us. 385 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: And so that you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna start 386 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: praying about that, Sallyde, I need to start praying about that, yea. 387 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: And in my own heart that. 388 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: The Lord would would make me after his kingdom, and 389 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: that my motherhood, in my marriage, everything would just be 390 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: a part of that mindset and that relationship. I mean, 391 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: that's just that's mind shifting there, That's that transforming of 392 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: your mind, that renewing of your mind of thinking about 393 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: things in a different way. 394 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it changes everything when you have that attitude or 395 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: when you have that understanding, because suddenly you realize when 396 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: you're you know, when you're making the peanut butter and 397 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: jelly sandwich for your child, you are not just feeding 398 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: a physical need. You are actually modeling Jesus broke bread 399 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: and he ate with his disciples, and it was a 400 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: picture of what he was going to do on the 401 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: cross for our salvation and our redemption. So when we 402 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: are making a peanut butter and jolly sandwich for our child, 403 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: we can either look at that as this is just 404 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: something I'm checking off my listen, I'm just feeding a need. 405 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: And for sure there are times where that is what 406 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: it is going to feel like for all of us. 407 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: But in reality, you are actually having the opportunity to 408 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: serve your child and give I mean, and I don't 409 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: want to over spiritualize things either, we do have physical, 410 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: tangible needs that have to be met. But Christ had 411 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: a physical, tangible body and he transformed everything into a 412 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: sacred act because he was the son of God. And 413 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: we have the same opportunity to do that because the 414 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: Holy Spirit that he left he left us. He gifted 415 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: us the Holy Spirit. Because of the Holy Spirit who 416 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: is at work within us, we have the same opportunity 417 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: to do that. So when you have that mentality, understand, Okay, 418 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: making this peanut better and jelly sandwich is not just 419 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: meeting a physical need. I can pray before I serve 420 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: my child. I'm going to say a quick prayer over 421 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: this peanut, butter and jelly sandwich, and I'm going to 422 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: ask that this food would nourish them and that through 423 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: the active eating, that they would come to note that 424 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: I can taste and see that the Lord is good. 425 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many different ways that we 426 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: see the Kingdom at work, just in the normal, everyday 427 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: activities that we have to do as moms. But we 428 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: can't see it. If we are blinded to it and 429 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: we're just trying to tuck the Kingdom of God into 430 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: our motherhood, we're not going to see it. We're going 431 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: to miss it. But if we have the attitude that 432 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: we're going to tuck our mother, our motherhood into the 433 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: Kingdom of God, and we pray for the ice to 434 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: see it, God is so faithful to give us those 435 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: eyes and suddenly we see, Gosh, everything that really, truly, 436 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: everything that I'm doing in motherhood is sacred when it's 437 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: infused by the Holy Spirit. And isn't that just true 438 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: of all of life? 439 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever you're doing, whatever your work is, whatever your 440 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: whatever it is, you know, when we bring Christ into it, 441 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: when we allow Him to lead us in it, that 442 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: it is it is sacred. And you're right, He just 443 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: modeled that for us. So I do want to take 444 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: the last little bit of our time, and I want 445 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: to delve in just a little bit too. I know 446 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: we can't get all the way into it, but to 447 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: this concept, you deal with spiritual warfare here when talking 448 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: about the Kingdom, and I love that you're not afraid 449 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: to go there because it's such a real part of 450 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: living a life in the Kingdom. 451 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: And you and I. 452 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 2: Talked for a minute before we recorded this, Sheleen, But 453 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: I think so often we can either go one extreme 454 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: or the other on this right, we can go to 455 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: that is kind of scary, and I don't like it 456 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: and I don't want to talk about it, So I'm 457 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: just gonna be over here in rainbows and unicorns and 458 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: act like that doesn't exist. Or we can go on 459 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: the other end, and we can extremely think that everything 460 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: is spiritual warfare and that that car cut me off 461 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 2: and got my parking spot at target that was satan, right, 462 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: And so where is that balance in between those two 463 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: extremes that really were called to from a biblical sense 464 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: when it comes to spiritual warfare, particularly concerning our families. 465 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it can be really hard because we 466 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: do tend to either want to be distracted and avoid 467 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: it and kind of put our head in the sand 468 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: and not have anything to do with that, because let's 469 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: be honest, we have so many other things on our plate. 470 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: Do we really want to deal with spiritual warfare. No, 471 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: it is scary and it can be really overwhelming, and 472 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: so it's easier just to kind of, you know, ignore 473 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: it or avoid it or stick our head in the sand. 474 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: Or the other tendency, which we kind of see is 475 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: you go, you know, the complete opposite, Like you said, 476 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: that person who cut me off. That is spiritual warfare, 477 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: that is, and that is an enemy attack. The fact 478 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: that I did not get this car this parking spot, 479 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 1: so we can go one of two extremes. I think 480 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: it's really important that we understand spiritual warfare is a 481 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: very real The Kingdom of God is real, and part 482 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: of the Kingdom of God obviously is the spiritual realm. 483 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: And in the spiritual realm, we have the angels and 484 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: we have the demons, and there is a very real 485 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: spiritual battle that is playing out, and the enemy does 486 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: have dominion and power here on earth. The Bible is 487 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: very clear about that there is dominion and power that 488 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: the enemy has, and so it is important that we 489 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: are aware of that, but that we don't become too 490 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: almost obsessed with it, that we are misaligning something that happened, 491 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: or misattributing a reason there. We sin and there are 492 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: consequences of sin, and sometimes some of those consequences are 493 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: just because we have sinned. That's not necessarily a spiritual attack, 494 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: but I do think it is important that we are 495 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: aware of it, right because we are raising up children 496 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: that we are sending out into the world, and those 497 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: children if as believing moms, we do have crosshairs on 498 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: our back. We are in the enemy's line of fire, 499 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: because the enemy knows if he can take us out, 500 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: he can potentially take our children out, and he can 501 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: potentially take an entire generation out. So we are certainly, 502 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: I mean, we are like first line attack for the enemy. 503 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: So it is important that we are aware of that 504 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: so that we can pray a hedge of protection and 505 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: covering and awareness over our families, over our children, over ourselves, 506 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: and so that we can put on the full armor 507 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: of God and be willing to get into the fight. 508 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: So it is important that we have a proper perspective 509 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: on it because it is real. It is you know, 510 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: there's spiritual warfare that's going on all around us every 511 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: single day, and if we choose just to put our 512 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: head in the sand and ignore it, then it's to 513 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: our own peril and the peril of our own children. No, actually, 514 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: you were talking about how it would be easier, you know, 515 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: if we just there was the delights. I didn't hear it, 516 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: but I think you were going to say it would 517 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: be easier if we just assumed that, you know, nothing 518 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: was spiritual warfare or everything was spiritual warfare, but in fact, 519 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: we can't have that attitude, and so having a proper 520 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: perspective is really important. And the only way that we 521 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: can do that is if we are in tune with 522 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit and we're able to discerten. So discernment 523 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: is so important. But that's you know, that's a gift 524 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: that the Holy Spirit gives us. And so it is 525 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: important that we are seeking the Lord and that we 526 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: are tuning to our ear to his voice, so we know, hey, 527 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: is this something you know that I need to be 528 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: praying about and seeking the Lord on and really going 529 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: to battle over or is this something that maybe I 530 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: need you know, I'm convicted over and maybe I need 531 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: to repent of a sin in this situation. The Holy 532 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: Spirit gives us that discernment, but it is really important 533 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: that we are aware. 534 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: That's so good, yeah, because we do have personal responsibility, right, 535 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: and so that is something that we can tend to. 536 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: It would, just like I said. 537 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 2: Be easier for the us to think that everything was 538 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: the enemy's fault, because then nothing is our fault. 539 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: It all the enemy at work in our lives. But 540 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: right is we become more like Christ. 541 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: We have this personal accountability in the choices that we 542 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: are making in our process of walking towards Him and 543 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: becoming more like Him in our day to day life. 544 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: And you know a lot of times I can think 545 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: of I just wish I could say that that was 546 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: the enemy, but that was me, you know, like that 547 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: was me and my own selfishness and my own turn 548 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: of my own heart that and you know, it led 549 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: me a straight makes me think of the Bible in 550 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: talking about when God talks about Pharaoh, he talks about 551 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: Pharaoh hardening his own heart, and then it talks about 552 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: God hardening Pharaoh's heart. But I love that Pharaoh hardens 553 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: his own heart. First, I don't love that, but I 554 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: love that point. That's distinction because it shows me in 555 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: my own life, where are the areas that I am 556 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: hardening my heart towards God. And so that is also 557 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: when the enemy is going to attack, right when the 558 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: enemy is going to come in in those areas that 559 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm already going, Okay, God, I don't really want you 560 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: to step here, like let's just keep you over here 561 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: in this area, but over here, let's just not really 562 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: go there. And the enemy starts attacking in behind that 563 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: and that's how that begins to work. And so I 564 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: think that, you know, yeah, recognizing that in our life, 565 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: and I love that you bring up discernment. That's something 566 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: that we can ask for from God. We can ask 567 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: for wisdom from his spirit. 568 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: Every day. 569 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: I ask for heavenly wisdom beyond my years, beyond my experience. God, 570 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: would you give me wisdom? And that's part of that, 571 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: to be able to discern and tell. I was talking 572 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: with one of my babysitters yesterday, Josie had a particularly 573 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: hard day, and I was looking down at baby Theo 574 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: and I said, I just, you know, we do wish 575 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: sometimes these things came with a manual of how to 576 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: raise them right, and they just don't. And they're each 577 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: so unique and each so by design of God, and 578 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: we want to meet our children where they are in 579 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: their needs. But it was after a particular kind of 580 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: rough moment of disciplining that I'm going, like, I don't 581 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: know if I did that right, Like I have no clue, 582 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: but I'm going, Lord, I need your wisdom to raise 583 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: his children because cannot do it on my own. 584 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's a prayer he just loves to answer. 585 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: I love that about motherhood because I don't think there's 586 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: any other relationship that requires us to depend on the 587 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Lord and ask for that wisdom apart from motherhood. I mean, 588 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: marriage is really really hard, but man, motherhood is so sanctifying. 589 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 1: There's something about motherhood that requires us to lean on 590 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: Christ because we know we cannot do it out of 591 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: our own ability. And so I just love I love 592 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 1: that prayer because yeah, there's such a dependence on the 593 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: Lord in motherhood, and I think that's by design. Yeah, 594 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: And I think that you know, when. 595 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: We pray that, and then you know, we encounter resources 596 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: like this like your book For me as a young mom, 597 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: this is like a manual to me, this is your 598 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: wisdom being passed down as you're a step ahead of 599 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: me in your motherhood journey, looking back and reflecting over 600 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: what God has taught you and what you have learned from. 601 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: And you write in your book that this is a 602 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: letter to your younger self, like this is a letter 603 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: to moms who were behind you and also a letter 604 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: to your younger self. 605 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: And so I shared with Sheleine before we got started. 606 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: As I was reading in her book this week, I 607 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: just sat and I wept when I read it because 608 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 2: I felt I'm not alone, and I felt seen by her, 609 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: and I felt seen by God. Mainly that in this 610 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: act of motherhood where I feel like I have no 611 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: idea what I'm doing half the time, but I'm faithfully 612 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: showing up and just trying to do the best I can, 613 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: that he sees me and he knows me, and he 614 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: honors me, and that He's with me, and that I'm 615 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: not alone. And so I'm grateful for wisdom being passed 616 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: down that we can all learn from each other and 617 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: grow with each other. And that's what this community of 618 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: million praying moms is all about. That we can know 619 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: that we're surrounded by women who are actively seeking God 620 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: in prayer on behalf of their families. And we're going 621 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: to encourage each other and help each other to keep 622 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: going in this because then we want to see the 623 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: Kingdom come in our famimen. 624 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, I agree, Yeah, I absolutely love that. And 625 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to before we close, I actually wanted to 626 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: read something to encourage some moms. So in this section, 627 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: we have talked about the Kingdom of war and you 628 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: and I we've talked about some spiritual spiritual battles and 629 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: spiritual warfare. And what I don't want to do is 630 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: we don't want to scare anyone. It is real. It 631 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: is a real battle that we need to be aware of, 632 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: and we need to be willing to get into the 633 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: fight and equip our children and make them aware that 634 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: there is a spiritual battle that wages around us. But 635 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: I want to encourage moms. You know, when we talk 636 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: about spiritual battle, greater is he who is in us 637 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: than he who is in the world. And I share this, 638 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: I share a part of sea that's in So in 639 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: chapter seven, I share a section that I actually want 640 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: to read out loud right now because I just this one. 641 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: Encourage the moms. If you're thinking about spiritual battle, spiritual warfare, 642 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: and you're a little scared, don't be scared. Actually be encouraged, 643 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: because there is an army of angels who surround us 644 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: as believers in Jesus Christ. And so I'm just going 645 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: to read this from the book. In Second King six, 646 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: the King of Aram is at war with the Israelites. 647 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: Throughout the conflicts, the lord continuously informs the prophet Elisha 648 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,959 Speaker 1: the Arab means whereabouts. Elishah in turn informs the King 649 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: of Israel, and this knowledge ensures the Israelite safety. Finally, 650 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: the King of Aarb becomes so enraged by his enemy's 651 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: ability to continuously evade detection and escape attack that he 652 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: becomes convinced there's a spy among his ranks. He in 653 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: first that someone must be tipping off the Israelites. It's 654 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: the only logical answer, So the king demands to know 655 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: who the traitor is, but his men inform him. Elisha, 656 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: the prophet who is in Israel, tells the King of 657 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: Israel the words that you speak in your bedroom. After 658 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: receiving this information, the king commands his men to find Elisha. 659 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: They obey and eventually discover the prophet in the city 660 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: of Dat. The king responds by sending an army of 661 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: men with horses and chariots under cover of night to 662 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: surround the city. Early the next morning, when Elisha's servant 663 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: rises and goes outside, he discovers the Ramian army, with 664 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: its gleaming chariots and its magnificent war horses fitted for battle, 665 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: encircling the city. In utter distress, he cries out to Elisha, alas, 666 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: my master, what shall we do? Elisha responds to his 667 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: English servant with words that must have been uttered with 668 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: a shured piece. Do not be afraid, for those who 669 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: are with us are more than those who are with them. 670 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: Then Elishah prayed and said, oh, Lord, please open his 671 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: eyes so that he may see. So the Lord opened 672 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: the eyes of the young man and he saw, and behold, 673 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire 674 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: all around Elisha. So I just want to encourage moms listening. 675 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: There is a mountain full of horses and chariots of 676 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: fire that surrounds us. Because the Kingdom of God is real, 677 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: it is here, it is at hand, and as believers 678 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: in Jesus Christ, we are surrounded by a host of 679 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: angels who are willing to go to battle for us. 680 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: So this is not something that we need to be 681 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: discouraged by or frightened. It's something we need to be 682 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: encouraged by, because yes, there's a battle, but the enemy 683 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: goes before us and the victory is already one man. 684 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 2: I needed that reminder today, So thank you so much 685 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: for sharing that encouragement. May you Lord open our eyes 686 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: to see you in your kingdom at work around us, 687 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 2: and within us and in our homes. That is our 688 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: prayer and our hope for today. So, friends, as we 689 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: are moving forward in the book club, we will be 690 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: reading chapters nine and ten next week, and so we 691 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: want you to continue reading with us. 692 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: We'll hear from Shellin again on. 693 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 2: Monday and a devotional, and then she and I will 694 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: have some more of these conversations as we continue to 695 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: walk through the book together. But we're just so glad 696 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: that you're here, that you're on the journey with us. 697 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 2: We hope you feel seen and love today, and we 698 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: hope that you have a great weekend and we will 699 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: see you back here on Monday. 700 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: I hope you. 701 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: Are following along with us in our summer book club 702 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: featuring the book When Mothering Is Hard and No One. 703 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: Sees by Scheline Roberts. If you have not joined us yet, 704 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: it's not too late to jump in. 705 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: Head to the homepage of our website to find out more. 706 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: Until next time, friends, the Lord bless you and keep you. 707 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: Make his face shine upon you, and be gracious to 708 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: you me. 709 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: The Lord look with favor on you, and give you 710 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: his peace.