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Speaker 2: I'm he Hewett.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wednesday edition of the Hersday edition of

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Speaker 1: the UUHO Goodness. The week is gone by fast. I

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Speaker 1: also said Wednesday Days reading a story just before I

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Speaker 1: came on from Reston, Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Josh Crashuer posted this earlier.

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Speaker 1: Channel seven News has learned the man accused of committing

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Speaker 1: a homicide a day after being released from jail is

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Speaker 1: in the country illegally and has a history of prior chargers.

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Speaker 1: The man died after shooting inside his home in western

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Speaker 1: Virginia on Wednesday. The guy was chased well into the night.

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Speaker 1: Turns out he's twenty three years old. His name is

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Speaker 1: Morales or at Taz. He's from l Salvador. He'd spent

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Speaker 1: most of the past year and a half in jail

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Speaker 1: suspected of another murder. He was released when someone else

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Speaker 1: was convicted. He had been charged for theft, found guilty

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Speaker 1: in that case, found guilty in another case as well.

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Speaker 1: He was released and three hundred dollars fine never paid,

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Speaker 1: And until this Tuesday he had been held in jail

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Speaker 2: And injuring someone.

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Speaker 1: So they let him out and he killed someone on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and that's in resting now. For those of you who

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Speaker 1: do not know the Beltway, resting is inside the Beltway,

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Speaker 1: not maybe it's just outside the Beltway planned community. It

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Speaker 1: is like Irvine, California, or any other planned community that

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Speaker 1: from the ground up, all the streets are wide, every

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Speaker 1: house has a garage, and it's very expensive, and the

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Speaker 1: schools are good. It's not what you expect Murder Central

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Speaker 1: to be. That comes, of course, we had the massacre

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Speaker 1: in Australia on Bondi Beach on Saturday. On Friday, we

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Speaker 1: had the shooting at Brown University, which is getting weirder

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Speaker 1: and weirder, and they still don't have anyone in custody,

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Speaker 1: and they don't they haven named the suspect. They released

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Speaker 1: just the goofiest photos of another person who's a person

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Speaker 1: of interest. We had on Tuesday, the MI I T

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Speaker 1: P Professor, real brilliant scientist was shot outside his apartment

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Speaker 1: nearby witnesses reported that there's a honkah on his hanka

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Speaker 1: at minora on his floor. But he's not himself Jewish,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of misinformation about that. But someone was

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Speaker 2: That case is just so odd.

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Speaker 1: I saw pictures today of the classroom, which looks like

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Speaker 1: every other large classroom. It was not a scheduled class.

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Speaker 1: It was a review session. For most of these universities,

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Speaker 1: they have giant introductory courses. This looks like intro to

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Speaker 1: econ freshman sophomore course where you want to kind of

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Speaker 1: he's holding someone hostage? Do you think someone is is

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Speaker 1: I used to say that a lot after nine to eleven,

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Speaker 1: twenty four years ago. For two years, I'd say nothing

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Speaker 1: random shooter inside the Beltway, mohammedan is sidekick who would

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Speaker 1: So I'm reading the New York Post yesterday. Just this

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Speaker 2: And I told you about this. Yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Eight Jewish youngsters were heading back to Habad Lubovich headquarters

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Speaker 1: we will get this country.

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Speaker 2: We will rid this country.

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Speaker 1: Blanking you by blanking all means, the maniac yelled. Earlier

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Speaker 1: in the day, Rabbi Meyer Poppe of Jackson Heights Habad

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Speaker 1: it's been sixty or seven years since one guy locked

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Speaker 1: in and murdered all those people in Pittsburgh. He's been tried, convicted,

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Speaker 1: non compass meant this. But even if his team realized

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Speaker 1: Sir Naya of the bomber and Boston, there were fifty

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Speaker 2: It wasn't Joe Biden. He had no idea what he

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Speaker 1: So you look at all these different things, and I've

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Speaker 1: been asking garious people when is Bondai Beach going to

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Speaker 1: happen in the United States? Because you just keep adding

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Speaker 1: up the onesies and the twosies and guns are a

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Speaker 1: in Australia. If you're a Jew, you might wear your

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Speaker 1: kippa in public, but he are you going to go

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it's got nothing to do with Israel.

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Speaker 1: This is classic anti Semitism. They're not mad about Gaza

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Speaker 1: trying to explain that anti Zionism, anti Semitism is different

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Speaker 2: Very polite, but he said, let's just stick to the facts.

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Speaker 1: Here's where Jews are getting killed, have been getting killed,

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Speaker 1: and we're killed in the eighteenth, nineteenth, and twentieth century

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Speaker 1: has been saying you'd better get a gun, and you'd

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Speaker 1: a concealed permit, you ought to start carrying. And I'll

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Speaker 1: I think, if you're a Jew and you're going to

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Speaker 2: They're already and that's good.

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Speaker 1: But that's not going to protect you in the parking

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Speaker 1: lot against these crazies, and it's multiplying. What do you

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Speaker 1: do when something like this happens, Well, law enforcement especially

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Speaker 1: as to step up. Far from defunding the police, we

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Speaker 1: and tell them, I said this two days ago that

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Speaker 1: We're going to get a misdemeanor fell any conviction against you,

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Speaker 1: window theory of anti Semitism, crushing any act, any incident.

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Speaker 1: that variety of empires crushed the Jews, the Romans, bought

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Speaker 1: Back to America. Hugh Hewittt. Noah Rothman is the senior

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Speaker 1: writer at National Review. You can follo him on Exit

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Speaker 1: no c.

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Speaker 1: I began the show by saying that which I used

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Speaker 1: to think was unthinkable is no longer unthinkable. Nine to

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Speaker 1: Monday Night, a Jewish woman from the Lubovitch Pacidic community

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Speaker 1: We had the Brown shooting on Friday, we had the

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Speaker 3: Some of them are kind of weird. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: talked about how bizarre the Brown shooting is and the

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Speaker 3: investigation into it, and it would be purely speculative for

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Speaker 3: me to say, well, that's shoddy invest investcat to get

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Speaker 3: the degree to which people who are observing the investigation

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Speaker 3: former FBI figure said that to WMMR recently. And when

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Speaker 3: it comes to this shooting of the Fusion researcher, there's

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Speaker 3: Israeli sources that maintain that could be a state sponsored

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Speaker 3: a lot of weirdness going on. But briefly, and I

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Speaker 3: don't want to monologue here the cube, but to your

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Speaker 3: point earlier, why haven't we seen this sort of Bondai

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Speaker 3: is it inevitable? It is not inevitable because those incidences

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Speaker 3: United States had been foiled. Three times in as many months.

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Speaker 3: We've had massive Islamist militant style attacks foiled in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: links to the Detroit plot. We had several individuals who

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Speaker 3: Here's the theorizing has become a national pastime in this

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Speaker 2: That is correctly stated.

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Speaker 1: We'll leave it there and nos Rothman follow him on X,

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Speaker 1: Now, I'll be right back in America. Stay tuned, notes

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Speaker 1: mosting on and welcome back America. I'm Hugh Hewitt, Josh

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Speaker 1: brash Hourer, editor in chief of Jewish Insider Josh after

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Speaker 1: Bondai Beach, after the brown shooting, after the string of

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Speaker 1: Should more Jews buy guns and carry them where it's

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Speaker 4: Well, Look, I've never heard more conversation within elements of

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Speaker 4: And I think what's more more alarming, Hue to the

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Speaker 1: and I thought It was great because you're going to

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Speaker 1: a movie to New York right now. The cost of

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Speaker 2: If they put him on the market, that they're way,

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Speaker 2: that the under in two years.

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Speaker 4: A few people vote with their feet, and you're seeing

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Speaker 4: that speaks volumes about where people want to live.

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Speaker 1: Josh Krasher are always good to talk to you. Follow

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Speaker 1: him on exit Josh Krasher, I'll be right back America.

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Speaker 1: Eleana Johnson is next on the g Heret Show, Brog

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Speaker 1: I'm back in America. I'm Gugulo, joined by Eleana Y. Johnson,

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Speaker 1: editor in chief of the Washington Free Beacon, contributed to

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Speaker 1: the commentary podcast Ellie on It Good to have you.

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Speaker 1: I got to say, fabulous episode of commentary today, John's

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Speaker 1: remarked about his father or heartfelt. I want to though,

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Speaker 1: zoom into what you had to say about I'm not

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Speaker 1: surprised that your dad kept every issue of commentary. First

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Speaker 1: of all, that was not a surprise, probably like five

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Speaker 1: five shelves worth of Commentary magazine. But you mentioned how

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Speaker 1: when you arrived at your college you were well defensed

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Speaker 1: because you've been reading magazine. And I grew up on

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Speaker 1: National View and add a commentary in college. But I'm

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Speaker 1: curious that's not there anymore. I don't know that teenagers

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Speaker 1: reading magazines anymore, do they.

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Speaker 5: Well, you're you're kind of asking the wrong person, Hugh.

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Speaker 6: But you know what I in that my kids are little,

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Speaker 6: so I have a sense of what you know, young

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Speaker 6: kids are doing, but I don't have a great sense

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Speaker 6: of what teenagers are up to. But I think, like

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Speaker 6: we know that reading books is declining, and by extension,

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Speaker 6: print magazines are declining. And I would say, it's not

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Speaker 6: just magazines that I was exposed to, you know, I

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Speaker 6: would I would go to school and hear my teachers saying,

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Speaker 6: you know this or that.

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Speaker 5: Left wing thing.

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Speaker 6: I remember, you know, when I was in tenth grade,

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Speaker 6: I had a teacher, a history teacher, who said Winston

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Speaker 6: Churchill was a very arrogant man, and he even wrote

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Speaker 6: a book called The History of the World according to

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Speaker 6: Winston Churchill, and it just sounded wrong to me. So

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Speaker 6: I came home and said to my dad, like, you know,

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Speaker 6: the history teacher said today that Winston Churchill was very arrogant.

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Speaker 6: And that was basically the extent of the teachings that

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Speaker 6: to me, like, you know, you should read this or

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Speaker 6: that on Churchill.

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Speaker 5: I don't even remember what it.

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Speaker 1: Was, probably the History of the English Speaking People's four

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Speaker 1: volumes and one of the best things, which won the

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Speaker 1: Nobel Prize for Literature, you know.

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Speaker 6: But he would say like, you should look at this book,

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Speaker 6: or you should look at that book, or you should

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Speaker 6: read this article in a magazine. So it wasn't just magazines,

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Speaker 6: but there were lots of books and magazines around. And

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Speaker 6: I just think, not only is that declining, but kid's

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Speaker 6: attention is declining. Their ability to actually get from beginning

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Speaker 6: to end of a book is declining, and that's concerning

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Speaker 6: because books are good.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm considerably older than you, I'm your dad's age,

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Speaker 1: but I grew up with Time magazine, Sports Illustrated, National Review,

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Speaker 1: and then commentary other magazines around the house as well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we get any magazines now because

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Speaker 1: I read everything online, and I don't think kids can

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Speaker 1: pick something up, nor would they be inclined, because they've

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Speaker 1: got they got this right, They got their cell phone.

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Speaker 2: To go to.

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Speaker 6: They have that, and then you know, you can see

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Speaker 6: that things are fed to them. The swipe is extremely

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Speaker 6: potent and distracting. X is organized in a you know,

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Speaker 6: scrolly swipey fashion. Instagram is the same, and YouTube is

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Speaker 6: designed for kids to move on very quickly from one

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Speaker 6: thing to another, and it does something to a young

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Speaker 6: person's brain that prevents it from being able to sit

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Speaker 6: down and follow a long narrative from beginning to end.

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Speaker 6: And I can see the struggle, you know, for young people,

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Speaker 6: and even watching a movie, a long Disney movie, you know,

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Speaker 6: sixty to ninety minutes, it's more difficult for kids, you know,

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Speaker 6: than it was when when I was young. I switch

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Speaker 6: to all these things are getting harder after.

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Speaker 1: Bondai Beach and after Brown and after the shooting of

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Speaker 1: the MIT professor and the serial number of attacks over

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Speaker 1: the last three days in New York and Crown Heights.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Jews outed by guns and carry them

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Speaker 1: we're legal.

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Speaker 6: Well, sure I do, but I wouldn't limit it just

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Speaker 6: to Jews.

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Speaker 5: I think people of.

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Speaker 6: All good conscience should All people of good conscience should

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Speaker 6: be thinking about protecting themselves and protecting other innocent people.

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Speaker 5: And what comes to mind you is the I.

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Speaker 6: Believe Lebanese Christian in Australia who stopped the Bondai Beach attack.

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Speaker 5: He was unarmed, But you know, all.

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Speaker 6: Citizens of good conscience should be thinking about how they

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Speaker 6: could stop an attack like that and what they would

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Speaker 6: do in that situation.

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Speaker 5: That's certainly been on my mind.

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Speaker 6: And we don't know anything right now about what motivated

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Speaker 6: the Brown University attack, but certainly watching the law enforcement

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Speaker 6: authorities speak before the cameras does not inspire confidence and

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Speaker 6: makes one think like that you need to be protecting yourself.

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Speaker 5: And others that you care at. They're innocent people.

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Speaker 6: It is petrifying to watch these people speak before cameras.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Bureau has stepped back because they

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Speaker 1: botched Charlie Kirk's assassination so badly at the beginning in

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Speaker 1: the communication that they're waiting until they what they're doing

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Speaker 1: because they're not at any of these pressures they have

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Speaker 1: not been a special agent in charge in Providence is

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Speaker 1: not there, or he hasn't spoken. You think they've been

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Speaker 1: reeled in.

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Speaker 6: I have no idea what's going on, but there seemed

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Speaker 6: to me so many open questions here. I mean, the

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Speaker 6: latest I've read out of Providence is you know whoever?

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Speaker 5: Let's see who it was, he said.

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Speaker 6: The Providence police chief who's been out there speaking about this,

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Speaker 6: Oscar Perez, saying he could be anywhere. We don't know

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Speaker 6: where the person is or who he is, and yesterday

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Speaker 6: saying that that law enforcement officials have not interviewed the

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Speaker 6: other students in the classroom, all of the other students

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Speaker 6: in the classroom who survived.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm speechless, and I'm speechless.

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Speaker 1: He was shouting something. They won't tell us that, and

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Speaker 1: they haven't done the interviews, and their camera work is bad.

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Speaker 1: It's just a utter fiasco. And if Brown's that way,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about other universities, Because Brown's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of money.

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Speaker 5: You one thing on that. I suspect.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, so this is speculation, but I suspect

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Speaker 6: that there's going to be a bigger story about why

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Speaker 6: there weren't more cameras here.

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Speaker 5: Why what happened there?

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Speaker 6: And so that's something that I'm looking at closely and

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Speaker 6: following closely and really wondering about.

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Speaker 5: And why why don't we know what the guy yelled?

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Speaker 1: There is no explanation for that, that is simply it

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Speaker 1: reminds me of the Nashville Killer. They did not want

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Speaker 1: to relieve the killer diaries because they were in an

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Speaker 1: indictment of trends meltdown, and so they kept them hidden

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Speaker 1: for a long time. But eventually all will come out

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Speaker 1: and eventually everything hidden will be made public.

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Speaker 2: Eleana Y Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Follow her on x reader at the Free Beacon, listen

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Speaker 1: to her on the Commentary podcast for most mornings, and

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon, Hugh, and welcome to ground zero. For control

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Speaker 7: of the House majority.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna come down to the wheat fields. I'm afraid Brinker,

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Speaker 1: I would look at your bio. You've been on the

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Speaker 1: Omaha City Council for eight years. I had a lat

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Speaker 8: Well, I truly enjoy it.

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Speaker 7: Before I was on the Omaha City Council, I worked

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Speaker 8: I truly enjoyed doing it.

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Speaker 7: But I think the next step is really where I

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Speaker 7: can bring the most to the district.

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Speaker 1: You've already got Cenator deb Fisher on your side. When

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Speaker 7: The primaries in May? And yeah, oh yes, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's soon. That's an early primary.

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Speaker 7: The primaries May and then obviously in November. After we

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Speaker 7: win and May, we'll be on the ballot in November.

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Speaker 1: So tell me what is a primary issue in Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: Most times when you're in a city council person who's running,

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Speaker 1: housing comes up, affordability comes up.

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Speaker 2: But what's driving the metrics in Nebraska?

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Speaker 8: I think you hit exactly those two.

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Speaker 7: Affordability is certainly the number one issue how the economy

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Speaker 7: is going. And what's really interesting you about affordability is

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Speaker 7: I think we need to talk more about this. Affordability

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Speaker 7: isn't just about the lowering of the prices, because as

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Speaker 7: we know, with inflation, prices usually don't come back. So

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Speaker 7: what we need to do is work on growing the economy,

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Speaker 7: growing wages. That's how we make it more affordable.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a housing shortage in Omaha?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, we do.

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Speaker 7: And you know what it's interesting too, is just recently

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Speaker 7: we had an issue in front of the city and

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Speaker 7: this is a great example of how regulations get in

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Speaker 7: the way of affordability. Is that the state of Nebraska

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Speaker 7: adopted the electrical code. The city of beau lah had

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Speaker 7: to adopt a code as well, usually what you do

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Speaker 7: is you mirror what the state does. The state had

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Speaker 7: five amendments taken out of the Electrical Code. The National

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Speaker 7: Code had nothing to do with safety. It just added

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Speaker 7: though about anywhere from eight hundred to fifteen hundred dollars

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Speaker 7: per house. And every time you add one thousand dollars

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Speaker 7: to the price of a house, new construction house, you

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Speaker 7: take out over five hundred potential buyers. So we want

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Speaker 7: to do here is eliminate those needless regulations that just

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Speaker 7: make it less affordable for people to achieve the American dream.

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Speaker 1: I sign majority Leader Thune was on the program yesterday

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Speaker 1: Breaker and they have housing bills in the pipeline for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six I was a land youth lawyer shall

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Speaker 1: I retired in twenty sixteen. Did it for thirty years.

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Speaker 1: It's always about density, and it's about regulatory costs that

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Speaker 1: gets passed on to the buyer and spread out over

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Speaker 1: thirty years. It's crazy what I saw. City councils do.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a pro growth city council majority?

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Speaker 8: Unfortunately we do not.

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Speaker 7: It's an officially nonpartisan, but there are four Democrats on

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Speaker 7: there and three of us three on the good side.

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Speaker 7: So we are constantly fighting that battle. But look you,

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Speaker 7: that's that's why I'm on city council. That's why i

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Speaker 7: want to run for Congress. I know the battle that

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Speaker 7: needs to be fought, and I'm willing to pick up

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Speaker 7: the mantle and do it. And now you know, it's

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Speaker 7: how much are the cost I was going to say.

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Speaker 2: Too primary, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: Brinker Well, I was going to say, on the affordability issue,

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Speaker 7: there's a group here in Omaha called Welcome Home, and

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Speaker 7: they've put a study together that showed, again this is

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Speaker 7: on the housing affordability. They showed that twenty five to

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Speaker 7: thirty percent of the cost of a newly constructed home

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Speaker 7: is wrapped up in regulations. Now I'm not here to

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Speaker 7: say all regulations need to go away, but there are

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Speaker 7: certainly some that do need to go away, that are onerous,

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Speaker 7: have nothing to do with safety, but just needlessly add

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Speaker 7: to the cost of a home.

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Speaker 8: And that's the battle we're fighting.

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Speaker 2: Amen, break.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that when I talk to Midwesterners,

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Speaker 1: I always have to remember they stop the moment I say,

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Speaker 1: whereas people from New York world right over me and

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Speaker 1: people from California don't pay any attention to me, but

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Speaker 1: the nice, polite people in Midwest stop immediately. And I

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Speaker 1: want to know how much money it costs to run

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Speaker 1: in the primary and the general. And I assume your

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Speaker 1: website just brinkerhearting dot com.

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Speaker 8: Breakerhearting dot com, and you took it away from me.

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Speaker 7: I was going to start at the top here with

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Speaker 7: the needless, shameless plug of people can learn more about

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Speaker 7: me by going to brinkerhearting dot com.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I be more shameless than that. You need money.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I have a congressional candidate on they need.

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Speaker 7: Money absolutely, And he you know that's It's interesting. The

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Speaker 7: day I got into this race, on July first of

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Speaker 7: this year, it was soon after Congressman Bacon had started

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Speaker 7: making a little noise about that he was thinking about

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Speaker 7: not running for reelection. And so after talking about it

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Speaker 7: with my family, I put my team together, which is

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Speaker 7: really important. I want to talk about this. It's really

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Speaker 7: important to talk about the team for this district because

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Speaker 7: you need to have that group that understands the district

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Speaker 7: better than anyone else.

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Speaker 8: And that's exactly the people I have working for me.

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Speaker 7: These are the same people that have worked on all

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Speaker 7: my city council campaigns at one time or another. They're

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Speaker 7: the same people that ran Dev Fisher's campaign the last

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Speaker 7: jah and Don Bacon's campaign the last cycle. We need

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Speaker 7: the people that understand the district better than anyone else

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Speaker 7: on that team. And I've completed that team by having

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Speaker 7: the same fundraising group that I've worked with Jay Best,

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Speaker 7: more plugs and also a combination of of Fisher people

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Speaker 7: and Bacon people for pulling for data and for media.

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Speaker 1: Very few people have this stature with me as Deb

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Speaker 1: Fisher does. She actually knows national defense. She's a very

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Speaker 1: strong proponent of national defense. What interests you when you

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Speaker 1: get to the Congress if if you win through a

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Speaker 1: couple of things.

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Speaker 7: But let me back up just a minute two about

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Speaker 7: Senator Fisher, because she put her name on the line

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Speaker 7: on day one when she endorsed me, and that means

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Speaker 7: an awful lot to me, and I had other people

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Speaker 7: jump in right away, and I think that's a great

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Speaker 7: visual sends a great message when you have people like

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Speaker 7: former Governor Heineman, Senator Fisher, Mayor of Omaha, Hal Dobb,

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Speaker 7: as well as the Honorable Merrit Stothard. Those people were

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Speaker 7: and actually and Kathleen Kauf, who I think you met

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Speaker 7: at the Alet conference and is basically I think while

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Speaker 7: I'm sitting here today with the endorsement of Jim Smith

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Speaker 7: and Kathleen kaf.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you keep coming back and I'm very

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Speaker 1: glad to have you. And I what I told Kathleen,

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Speaker 1: I she told you. City councilmen actually have to do things.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes them good candidates. They don't get the

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Speaker 1: hide in the legislature in Omaha. They have to go

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Speaker 1: out and answer the phone calls and make the police

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Speaker 1: budget work and add officers and subtract the ambulances.

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Speaker 2: How many years you been.

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Speaker 7: Doing I'm in my ninth year right now, But you're right,

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Speaker 7: it's all about accountability and accessibility.

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Speaker 8: That's what I'll be in Congress as well.

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Speaker 1: Break heart dot com go check him out, give them

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Speaker 1: some contribution you can trust. Ab Fisher center Fisher knows

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Speaker 1: what she's doing. Breakerhearting dot com. Brinker, I'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you in the new year. Merry Christmas, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining me today. Welcome back to America.

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Speaker 2: I'm you.

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Speaker 1: Hewittt cheth Mandel joined me from Israel. Good morning, evening,

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Speaker 1: whatever time of day it is, Seth, I have no

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Speaker 1: idea what time is it there.

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Speaker 8: It's evening, it's nighttime.

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Speaker 9: It's about nine to fifty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, good evening to you, then, Seth.

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Speaker 1: I listened to the commentary podcast today and it was

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Speaker 1: a wonderful tribute to Norman Potterworts, with John involved in

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Speaker 1: everybody making their comments. What I kept thinking to myself

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Speaker 1: was Norman Podworks was a man of extraordinary courage because

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Speaker 1: he fought with the communists when the left was communists,

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Speaker 1: then he fought with the left when it was just

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Speaker 1: anti war. Then he fought with the people who wanted

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Speaker 1: their eyes to be shut. Do you think there are

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Speaker 1: people like him around now who will fight with the

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Speaker 1: parallels to those foes domestically?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I hope.

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Speaker 10: So.

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Speaker 9: I mean, we talked a bit about Ben Shapiro today,

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Speaker 9: just because Ben was willing to criticize his own side

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Speaker 9: and in the way that Norman was, and so you

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Speaker 9: know that is in the same tradition. I don't know

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Speaker 9: if there are people on the left right now, besides

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Speaker 9: the John Fetterman's of the party, who are willing to

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Speaker 9: do that.

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Speaker 10: But it's also you.

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Speaker 9: Know, there's been a real change in the in the

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Speaker 9: influence of intellectual magazines and stuff like that that I

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Speaker 9: don't know if I don't know if they're reading that

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Speaker 9: stuff on the left the way they used to the

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Speaker 9: way they did when Norman pod Hartz was.

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Speaker 8: An opinion magazine editor on the left.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I know that you know, we are reading

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Speaker 9: this stuff, and I know that we're on the right.

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Speaker 9: We're dealing with our own internal issues, and I think

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Speaker 9: that we're having a conversation about it and you know,

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Speaker 9: trying to find some resolution to it.

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Speaker 8: But I don't know who.

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Speaker 9: The people are that they are listening to most on

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Speaker 9: the left, And that would really answer the question, because

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Speaker 9: if there's somebody actually.

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Speaker 1: Specific I listen to Ben's speech and he read Tucker

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Speaker 1: out of the conservative moment saying, they've got any boundaries,

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Speaker 1: you un'tbelieve in these things, you're not a conservative. Even

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Speaker 1: if he persuades everybody that he's right, and he is right,

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Speaker 1: Tucker's not a conservative. It doesn't matter because there aren't

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Speaker 1: channels to which he can be denied. It's a direct

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Speaker 1: to customer media now, and the way what Norman risked

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Speaker 1: was his livelihood. Right, people wouldn't take his articles, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: pie his books, wouldn't give him assignments to write. He

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Speaker 1: put it on the line in the Attention economist Mary

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Speaker 1: Catherineham calls it. There really isn't a risk for people

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Speaker 1: to take a heterodox or orthodox position that there's no

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Speaker 1: way to disintermediate someone from a market.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean there are way. I'm not that I'm

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Speaker 9: advocating for this, but I think it makes a difference

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Speaker 9: if you were banned from Twitter X. I'm not saying

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Speaker 9: somebody should, but I do think that there are some

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Speaker 9: channels that are so so good at reaching the public,

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Speaker 9: and without them you will see a real drop in

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Speaker 9: those interactions. But at the same time, you know, you could,

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Speaker 9: you know, to play Devil's advocate with myself. You know,

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Speaker 9: I can say, hey, Nick Foyentes has been banned from

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Speaker 9: everything and except The Rumble, and so he went on

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Speaker 9: Rumble and he built a huge audience on Rumble. So

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Speaker 9: there is something to say for the fact that there's

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Speaker 9: always an alternative these days, and there really is a way,

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Speaker 9: almost always a way to get unfiltered direct contact with

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Speaker 9: the audience.

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Speaker 1: Now you just you just named the name. I won't

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Speaker 1: I have adopted the point of view on this program.

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Speaker 1: There are some people I will not talk about or

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Speaker 1: entertain discussions of because there hate a dollar in the jar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: put a dollar in the jar. But but do you

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Speaker 1: think my approach, which is to deny attention to the

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Speaker 1: people who depend upon the attention economy, is it going

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Speaker 1: to work?

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Speaker 9: It can again, you know, there are very few channels

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Speaker 9: in the attention to coon that are big enough that

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Speaker 9: can really shut somebody out. I X YouTube those are

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Speaker 9: the two major ones that come to mind. But you know,

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Speaker 9: there's always a way around it if you really can,

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Speaker 9: you know, find a way to talk to people, you know,

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Speaker 9: to your fans, if they know where to find you.

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Speaker 9: And so once you get big enough, then people always

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Speaker 9: know where to find you. So that I think that

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Speaker 9: there's a way to sort of escape that when you're

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Speaker 9: big enough, when you're up and coming, that's when a

873
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Speaker 9: movement would try to set the guardrails a bit and

874
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Speaker 9: and not enable somebody to get to the point where

875
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Speaker 9: they're you know, unstoppable in that sense.

876
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Speaker 8: I think you have to get big enough. But otherwise

877
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Speaker 8: people rely.

878
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Speaker 9: On you know, It's like there's all these arguments on

879
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Speaker 9: exit times where people say older journalists say, oh, I

880
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 9: should get off X, it's bad for you. And then

881
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 9: the younger journalists say, well, you built your career getting

882
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 9: your stuff out on X. You're in a position now

883
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Speaker 9: where you can say I'm just going to go to

884
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Speaker 9: Blue Ski or whatever. And so there really is a

885
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Speaker 9: you know, a period of time in your career where

886
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Speaker 9: you need access and other people do.

887
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Speaker 2: Hold the key to it.

888
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Speaker 1: And there's also my belief that unless you are a writer,

889
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Speaker 1: people don't take you seriously. Unless you write things that

890
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: are published in places that are respected, you don't really

891
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Speaker 1: get traction.

892
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Speaker 2: So I hope that's the case.

893
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Speaker 1: What I began the program with today was a monologue

894
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Speaker 1: that goes back to my monologue two days ago after

895
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Speaker 1: Bondai Beach sunk in, but it's a different one, which

896
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Speaker 1: is absolutely nothing should be unexpected that people who are

897
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Speaker 1: concealed carry people. They got to start carrying their concealed weapons.

898
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Speaker 1: I'm not one of them, because I would be a

899
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Speaker 1: danger to everyone, but I think that absolutely nothing is unexpected.

900
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Speaker 1: After Brown Bondai Beach, the MIT professor getting shot. Outside

901
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Speaker 1: of this, do you feel that way?

902
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Speaker 9: I think that in Bondai Beach it's very difficult to

903
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Speaker 9: get that concealed carry license in the first place, right,

904
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Speaker 9: So part of the trouble with their response being to

905
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Speaker 9: focus on gun control is that the good guys already

906
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Speaker 9: don't really have the guns there, and I don't know

907
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Speaker 9: what the community could do to protect itself. And that's

908
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Speaker 9: also why people are so angry at the Albanese administration

909
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Speaker 9: and the Australian government overall, because they don't allow people

910
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Speaker 9: to protect themselves, right, that's the downside.

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Speaker 2: But how about in their state?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I how about it.

913
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Speaker 8: I think people should.

914
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Speaker 1: In the United States, we got about forty five seconds.

915
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Speaker 1: Do you think Jews, especially where people going to Jewish

916
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Speaker 1: places of gathering, have got to get armed.

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Speaker 9: I think they should at least consider it. And I'm

918
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Speaker 9: where I am located in this. In Maryland, there's been

919
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Speaker 9: a huge uptick. There's been a big uptick in New

920
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Speaker 9: York in the area. I think Jewish communities are definitely

921
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Speaker 9: starting to think that way.

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Speaker 1: Short it seems to me the inevitable repercussion of the

923
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Speaker 1: police and federal security services failure to end jihadism and

924
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Speaker 1: keep track of it.

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Speaker 2: Seth Mandelsaf travels home Welcome back in America. I'm new Hewittt.

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Speaker 1: Former United States Senator Jim Tallant joins me. He is

927
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Speaker 1: a senior fellow at the Reagan Institute Center for Peace

928
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Speaker 1: through Strength. Jim and I are about the same age,

929
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Speaker 1: So you know, Norman Podhorts probably better than I do,

930
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Speaker 1: or his work at least as well as I do.

931
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Speaker 1: I wrote yesterday that it may or may not be true,

932
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Speaker 1: no pod Hoorts, no President Reagan, but that it might

933
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Speaker 1: be true is enough to say what a.

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Speaker 2: Great American Norman pod Hoorts was. What do you think?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and he really took commentary in a powerful and

936
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Speaker 11: important direction. I remember when we were doing welfare reform

937
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Speaker 11: and they covered that and went to a level of

938
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Speaker 11: depth about the failures of the great society that you know,

939
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Speaker 11: few publications did. And you know, I agree with that

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Speaker 11: statement that it was it was the intellectuals from the

941
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Speaker 11: left who defected, you know, from the idea that communism

942
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Speaker 11: was a good thing.

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Speaker 10: Uh and and really.

944
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Speaker 11: Supplied a lot of the intellectual heft that that that

945
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Speaker 11: floated Ronald Reagan's policy. Of course, Reagan was himself and

946
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Speaker 11: an intellectual from the left. A lot of people don't

947
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Speaker 11: know that about him. But he was a voracious reader.

948
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Speaker 11: He absorbed data, and he made his name, as you know,

949
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Speaker 11: in the forties when he when he took the Screen

950
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Speaker 11: Actors Guild and took it away from the communists.

951
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Speaker 1: And drove them out. Now I'm curious, you know, Jim.

952
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Speaker 1: They also they represented the New York left that became

953
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Speaker 1: the New York Right, the neo concertos. Those of us

954
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: were always just conservative. We read National Review and that

955
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Speaker 1: was its own world. But when the ammunition passed the ammunition,

956
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Speaker 1: that was what commentary brought in. They brought in all

957
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Speaker 1: the eggheads and smart writers and big guns of the

958
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Speaker 1: intellectual New York City scene and really supercharged Reagan's campaign.

959
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: Jeane Kirkpatrick's double dictatorships and double standards there's one example

960
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: of it. They really brought the juice well.

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Speaker 11: And you notice how much the conservative movement in the

962
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Speaker 11: Republican Party has benefited from former Democrats and former leftists.

963
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Speaker 11: I mean, Reagan was one. Donald Trump was never a leftist,

964
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Speaker 11: and I don't think he was a Democrat, but he

965
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 11: certainly wasn't a Republican all those years. And I think

966
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Speaker 11: part of the reason is all those people who grew

967
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Speaker 11: up on the left. I mean they knew how to

968
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Speaker 11: use those tactics effectively. Orts was certainly one of them.

969
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Speaker 2: But you're right, I.

970
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 11: Mean his ability, his ability to talk about meta narratives,

971
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Speaker 11: you know, to really get down deep into the heart

972
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Speaker 11: of what was at stake, was very powerful.

973
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Speaker 1: Now I want to switch to the aful killing in Australia.

974
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Speaker 1: The murders at Brown and the assassination of mit Bondai

975
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Speaker 1: Beach is not connected to the other two. The other

976
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Speaker 1: two might be connected, according to some leaks from law

977
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Speaker 1: enforcement tonight.

978
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Speaker 2: But the Bondai Beach, I think.

979
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Speaker 1: Anything gonna happen anywhere now, and that maybe the guard

980
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Speaker 1: we had up on nine to twelve is slipped and

981
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: we got to put it back up.

982
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Speaker 11: What do you think, Well, yeah, I've.

983
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Speaker 10: Been listening to your interviews with people on this.

984
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 11: I remember you asking Andy McCarthy if he thought that

985
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 11: there was foreign sponsorship or involvement, and I thought when

986
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 11: you asked that question, you know, I'd be surprised if

987
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 11: there weren't for an involvement, and specifically Iran. You know,

988
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 11: we call Iran the chief state sponsor of terrorism because

989
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 11: they sponsor a lot of terrorism, and remember you their

990
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 11: power in theater in the Middle East has been broken.

991
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 11: I mean that the nuclear program has gone never to return,

992
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 11: and their proxies have been substantially degraded, and Israel is

993
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 11: not going to allow them to be rebuilt.

994
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 10: Israel has adopted a policy.

995
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 11: Of preemption, and the Iranians are not going to sit

996
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 11: there and do nothing. So asymmetric attacks on the West

997
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 11: that they sponsor, or coordinate or in some loose manner

998
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 11: encourage it would not surprise me at all. If there's

999
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 11: no connection here, there will be in incidents in the.

1000
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: Future if we believe any foreign government ran in particular

1001
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: killed the nuclear scientists, the fusion scientist.

1002
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: What does the president do.

1003
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 10: Well?

1004
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 11: This president, I mean, I think he's going to strike

1005
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 11: back effectively as a punishment, and you know, he still

1006
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 11: has a lot of options available, including tightening the oil

1007
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Speaker 11: sanctions in the shadow fleet, which he's doing now to Venezuela.

1008
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 10: I mean, these Iran ships oil with.

1009
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Speaker 11: Ships that that flying are false flags that change their

1010
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 11: GPS locators. Obviously the carry sanctioned oil. I've been I've

1011
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 11: been waiting for the President to do that for some

1012
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 11: time with regard to not just Iranian oil but also

1013
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 11: Russian oil and and that's that's an arrow.

1014
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 10: He still has it as quiver.

1015
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Speaker 1: So you know that would be ways we will not

1016
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Speaker 1: get through the Caribbean. Jim, Cuba's in real trouble because

1017
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: they're keeping Cuba's lights on. And now that ghost fleet

1018
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: and that's I mean, you can see him. They're just

1019
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: false flag and they pretend to be legit. They're not legit.

1020
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: They're very old and some Okay, they're not going to

1021
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: get there. That the embargo is what it is, the quarantine,

1022
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: and it's it's fine by me under the Constitution.

1023
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: What do you think, Oh?

1024
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 11: Absolutely, I mean he's protecting American interests in American security.

1025
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 10: He's enforcing the law.

1026
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 11: And what's the point of sanctions if you don't enforce them?

1027
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 11: And you can I switch because there's something I believe

1028
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 11: to say about this healthcare debate. Can I just make

1029
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 11: a quick point and I'm going to defend I'm going

1030
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 11: to defend my former colleagues in the Republican Party because

1031
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 11: a lot of people are saying, well, why haven't they

1032
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 11: replaced Obmamacare by now? Okay, So, as you know, the

1033
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 11: only time you can do that is when you control

1034
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 11: both the House and the Senate, and also the presidency.

1035
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 11: There have been and you have to do it on

1036
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 11: reconciliation or you'll never get it through the Senate. Well,

1037
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 11: they've controlled all three on two occasions in the last

1038
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Speaker 11: fifteen years, in twenty seventeen and eighteen, and now in

1039
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 11: this congressional session. They tried to replace it in twenty seventeen,

1040
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 11: and you will recall that John McCain switched his vote

1041
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 11: at the last minute and killed the villa in the Senate,

1042
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 11: remember that. And there they were kind of they were

1043
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 11: kind of busy. They were busy with other things in

1044
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 11: reconcile auciliation, like this great tax bill, like all the

1045
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 11: border provisions, the reconciliation money for the Department of Defense.

1046
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 10: So when Thune and Johnson.

1047
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 11: Say, yeah, we can do more reconciliation bills, I mean people,

1048
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 11: I would I would urge people to be a little

1049
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 11: bit patient. I mean, they cannot work miracles. They they

1050
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 11: know they have a window now and they're gonna in

1051
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 11: the House. They're gonna have to hold all these people,

1052
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 11: which is why they're not gonna come cracking down on

1053
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 11: these four who signed the discharge petition. You because they're

1054
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 11: gonna need them down the road. So I'm confident they're

1055
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 11: going to respond and everybody's going to have a chance

1056
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 11: to vote for good healthcare reform.

1057
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Speaker 2: The leadership might be nice time, Jim the leader. The

1058
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Speaker 2: leadership might be nice to them.

1059
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Speaker 1: I don't have to be nice to them, and you

1060
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Speaker 1: don't have to be nice to them, but the leadership

1061
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:53,959
Speaker 1: has to be nice to them.

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Speaker 11: And they know you're not going to hear Johnson say anything,

1063
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Speaker 11: but you can say whatever you want you that's.

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Speaker 2: It, because boy, that was a boneheaded move. Jim.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to talking to you before Christmas. I'll

1066
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Speaker 1: wait until next week to wish you merry Christmas. Thank

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Speaker 1: you friend. Following at Jim talon on X from the

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Speaker 1: Reggae Institute, Thank you, Smer