1 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Hi, there, everybody. I wanted to come on and just 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: share a few thoughts as we enter into another week 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: of this nightmare. I just want to say, first of all, 4 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much for all of the prayers and 5 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: the love that we have felt, my sister and brother 6 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: and I, and that our mom has felt. Because we 7 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: believe that somehow, some way, she is feeling these prayers 8 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: and that God is lifting her even in this moment 9 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: and in the darkest place, we believe our mom is 10 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: still out there. We need your help. Law enforcement is 11 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: working tirelessly around the clock trying to bring her home, 12 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: trying to find her. She was taken and we don't 13 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: know where, and we need your help. So I'm coming 14 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: on just to ask you, not just for your prayers, 15 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: but no matter where you are, even if you're far 16 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: from Tucson, if you see anything, you hear anything, if 17 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: there's anything at all that seems strange to you that 18 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: you report to law enforcement. We are an hour of 19 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 1: desperation and we need your help. 20 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: Okay. I am joined by my guest once again, doctor 21 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: Curry Myers. I told you guys that I would have 22 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: him back over I believe when he was on Friday, 23 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that we brought him back 24 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: to discuss this. Obviously, there's been lots more news that 25 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: has broke since, and obviously we're going to talk about 26 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl at Bunny TP USA all of that 27 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: good stuff a little a little later on. But I 28 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: wanted to cover this story with doctor Curry Myers, and frankly, 29 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: I wanted to have a little blunt talk with him 30 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: or ask some questions because I mean, he's a criminologist, 31 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: he's a he's a professor at Benedictine College. Former Kansas 32 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: City Streate trooper, KBI special special agent, has done crazy 33 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: undercover work. Sheriff, former sheriff of I said, he's currently 34 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: a KBI special agent. That's crazy. Former KBI special agent, 35 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: former sheriff of Johnson County, Kansas. He's worked high profile 36 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: homicide cases, you name it. The guy knows what he's 37 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: talking about. So doc, let me, let me just do this, 38 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: because obviously there's still new leads that seem to be followed. 39 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: There's still there was a deadline of believe today or 40 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: that was supposed to hit today. I know some law 41 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: enforcement went back to Nancy Guthrie's property. The mother Savannah Guthrie. Uh, 42 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: and they checked the septic tank, all all of these 43 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: new things, Uh that that seem to be transpiring. But 44 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: it's been over a week. It's been over a week, Doc, 45 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: So I just want to pick your brain a little bit. 46 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: And and I feel so sorry for the Guthrie family, 47 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: and I want to address those I've seen a lot 48 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: of people on X all these people are getting special treatment, 49 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: uh because they're because they're rich. I'm gonna tell you 50 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: why I don't care and and and why I think 51 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: it's actually even important for poor people and and for 52 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: for Nancy Guthrie or to get this type of treatment. Uh. 53 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: So I'll get into that momentarily. Maybe Doc will agree 54 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: with me, maybe he won't. I don't know, but Doc, 55 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: let me be realistic. And I hate saying this because 56 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: if it were my family member. Uh, it's not news 57 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: that I would want to hear. Necessarily, I don't think 58 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: she's alive. Doc. 59 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, I don't disagree. I think there's it's very difficult. 60 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: You can tell that the the pressure on the family 61 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: is growing immense. I can't imagine pressure on law enforcements 62 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 3: growing immense. There's a window of opportunity to not only 63 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: be able to investigate these cases, but be able to 64 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: act and save a person's life. That window is, in 65 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: my opinion, has closed. It's not beyond completely closed, but 66 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: at the laws of probability, and unfortunately I try to 67 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: rely on those as much I can when I do, 68 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: when I do my assessments, the laws on probability are 69 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: that she is no longer with us, and there's some 70 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: various reasons for that. I think the number one, we're 71 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 3: not We're not seeing as much chatter the like we 72 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: were seeing before. There's let there's less and less information 73 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: come in. We still see there's there's still updates about 74 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: the case. But but I'm saying from people who may 75 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: be wrecked presenting themselves as someone who can who has her, 76 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: we're not seen in that. As I said Friday, I'm 77 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: still there's something not right with the ransom letter. I'm 78 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: not saying that it's that it's faulty. I think it's 79 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: certainly real, But wherever that has come from, I don't 80 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: know if that's truly associated with the the crime that's occurred. 81 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: There's so many times that people will manipulate that and 82 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: send things to people, especially when it went outside the 83 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: normal order, and the normal order is usually between the 84 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: family and law enforcement. When it gets to the media, 85 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: when it gets sent out on social media, that's uncommon 86 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: because the ability of someone to be able to make money, 87 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: if that's your desires to make money, if you're a 88 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: bad guy, gets less and less when there's when there's 89 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: that information, I also must say there's in my opinion, 90 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: law enforcement works hard, but you have to be very 91 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: careful Karl about releasing too much information, okay, and when 92 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 3: you release too much information, that can jeopardize the case. 93 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: Uh. 94 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: I have said this before. There's really only uh two 95 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: people that know what's going on in a crime scene, 96 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 3: and that's the bad guy in God. And uh unfortunately 97 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: God can't whisper in our ear too much on those 98 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: particular things, so we keep we should keep those things 99 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: close to the vest. When it comes to material evidence, 100 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: let me ask mind, and I think I think we 101 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: got into displaying a lot of material information that shouldn't 102 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: should not have been released. 103 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: Let me let me ask this, based on the point 104 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: that you just made, doc, is that could that be 105 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: kind of an amateur move or or or could or 106 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: could it be that maybe they simply don't. The cops, 107 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: even law enforcement, they don't have anything. So they're willing 108 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: to put as much out there as possible. Is that 109 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: a possibility, Well. 110 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: It's always a possibility. 111 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: I can't. 112 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not blaming them. I'm given my opinion 113 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: on it. Of course they there. I mean I haven't 114 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: spoken with them. They may have their reasons for doing so. 115 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: I don't I think regardless of what they thought the 116 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: reasons at that early juncture in the case, I don't, 117 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wouldn't support releasing that kind of important 118 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: information and specific information. And and I'm I'm including the 119 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: things that were that that were put out almost immediately 120 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: in the first briefing, which was the the loss of 121 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: power and the UH when it came to the nest 122 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: video Mervell, and also the loss of power to UH 123 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: to the to the heart. And so when you're dealing 124 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: with those particular issues, those are things that you don't 125 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: want to you want to keep fairly close to the 126 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: best that that's not out there for the for because 127 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: those are things that you can solve and be able 128 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: to get time hacks on what occurred. You could get 129 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: potential photographs from the nest. You could dive even deeper 130 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: into it to be able to get at least information 131 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: from that nest. And then there was a blood spot 132 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: on the outside. I wouldn't release that to the public 133 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: because we don't know the genesis of that of that 134 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: it was hers that we did find out when the 135 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: DNA came came back, but we don't know when it 136 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: was put there and what happened. So it's just those 137 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: little things are the things that I wouldn't release at 138 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: that time. And I'm not blaming law enforcement, it's just 139 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: my opinion. But of all things that the problem that 140 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: I have in this case is there is something strange 141 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 3: to me about this ransom letter. It just doesn't make sense, 142 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: and it makes you wonder whether all alone there was 143 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: no ransom attempt. Maybe they tried to steal information from her, 144 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: credit card information, back bank information from her specifically maybe 145 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: be able to get bitcoin transfers of her own cash, uh, 146 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: and that failed, and so as a backup plan they 147 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: maybe tried to, you know, put together this ransom. 148 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: What's the likelihood doc that perhaps this ransom is I mean, 149 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: if they can pull it off, they'd love to pull 150 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: it off. But maybe it's a kind of a distraction. 151 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: Let me get as far away from the crime scene 152 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: as possible while you guys are focused on a ransom 153 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: and believing and God's on a street that I hope 154 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: she's alive. We only have a minute and we can 155 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: come back here, Doc. But what's the likelihood that this 156 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: is a distraction, Like, get everybody worried about a ransom 157 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: and that you know, if you get it, you're happy 158 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: to get it, But really you're just trying to buy 159 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: time to get away from the cops. Is that alike? 160 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 2: Is that applauseable scenario? I should say, well, it's very much. 161 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: It's very plausible. 162 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: And one of the. 163 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: I mean, when we get back from the break, we'd 164 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 3: be able to, you know, get into it in depth, 165 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 3: because I think you're onto something and I just made 166 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: a reference to it. Number one is that they may 167 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: be trying to cover up the lack of criminal intent 168 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: that they had at the beginning, had nothing to do 169 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: with the ransom, had to do with the theft and 170 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: stealing from her. Or number two, in the commission of 171 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: this she maybe died from natural causes because of her 172 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: heart and as a result of that, they didn't have anything. 173 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: They had no hand to play because she died. She 174 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: could have very well died at the scene or died 175 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: taken her out when she fell, and so she's got 176 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: to play this kind They got to play this kind 177 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: of card to see if they can make something out 178 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: of nothing. 179 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: Okay, more with doctor Curry Myers. 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This Monday evening, I 223 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: want to get back to my guest, doctor Curry Myers. 224 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: We are talking about the abduction of Nancy Guthries. And 225 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: obviously the news has slowed down a little bit with this, 226 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: with this particular case. It could be because of you know, 227 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: the super Bowl, and it's I mean, this has been 228 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: a long news cycle. I've even seen people on X 229 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: and I just want you to appine on this real 230 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: quick doc. I've seen plenty of people on X that 231 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: are just like hey, because this, you know, Savannah Guthrie 232 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: is rich, She's getting treatments that poor people wouldn't get 233 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: you have people that are killed every day, every day 234 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: that come up missing, children that are trafficked, so on, 235 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: et cetera. And I understand the frustration from people that 236 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: are making that point. The reason I think high profile 237 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: cases like this are important, and you correct me if 238 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm wrong, because you have the opportunity perhaps to use 239 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: different types of technologies, you know, where you can learn 240 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: to do things a little bit better, and perhaps even 241 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: on the lower level type cases, which I disagree. I mean, 242 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: I agree. I don't believe any one person is more 243 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: important than the other. But when you have the opportunity 244 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: to focus so much attention on one clay in one case, 245 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: see what works, see what doesn't, perhaps you can use 246 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: some of those saying practices on lower level cases. 247 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: Right or wrong, Doc, Well, to some extent, I agree 248 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: with you, I think from a law enforcement perspective, I mean, 249 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: I worked homicides. I didn't care, Carl, what influence it 250 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: was or whether or not it was a powerful person, 251 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: a popular person. It was a death, and the death 252 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: needs to be investigated to my fullest potential. Right now, 253 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: I will tell you sometimes you're under the gun. And 254 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: when I say that, I mean, it's a it's a 255 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: general term meaning there's a lot of pressure on you 256 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: to solve a case because someone is it's notoriety, you 257 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: know what I mean, it's somebody who it may be popular. 258 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: There may be pressure on your bosses and the bosses 259 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: bosses and you know whoever, whoever's leading the organization to 260 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: try to close the case quicker because there's notoriety. Maybe 261 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: they're getting some pressure that does occur because that's human nature. 262 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: I think the social media things is the typical social 263 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: contagions that we see that we live in a society 264 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: of hot. Now if we don't get it hot, and 265 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: now we get bored and we you know, we we 266 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: move over to something else. You know, last week it 267 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: was it's Minnesota and in ice, and now it's this 268 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: and you know, now we're on bad Bunny and now 269 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: we're moving to something else, and you know, we're just 270 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: moving all over the place. And we're pathetic humans that 271 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: you know, can't stay focused on anything and so you know. 272 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: But but in many ways it's true, but it's only 273 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: true because of influence that may occur. Now, I will 274 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: say in this particular case where not everybody that has 275 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: been killed, has been kidnapped for ransom. Now that's what 276 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: makes this case unusual. And that's what because you know, 277 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: people say, well, poor, poor, a poor person. That's why 278 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: they got notorieties because she's rich. Well, it really got 279 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: notoriety because of the method behind it, which is a 280 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: kidnapping and a ransom that brings the you know, dial 281 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: up considerably on interest with people, and as a result, 282 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: you're going to have more notoriety. And not everybody can 283 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: and not everybody gets ransomed. You know, if somebody kidnapped 284 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: me and ransom, you know, my value is probably a 285 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: buck fifty, you know. So, I mean, you know, if 286 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: you've got to have money to have ransom, r and 287 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: you know that family has some money and we don't know, 288 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: I don't know what her you know, she they may 289 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: have had money to begin with, you know, at the 290 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: begin you know, at the getting into life. We don't 291 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: know people's net worth and so there may be money associated. Now, 292 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: with all that being said, Carl, I think it is. 293 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: When we had just left. There are two real plausible 294 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: issues that we need to consider here, and the first 295 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 3: one is it has nothing to do with the fact 296 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: that she is the mother of this high profile. 297 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: I am starting to believe that doctor. 298 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 3: This has something to do. This has something to do 299 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: with someone who knew her, or someone that worked more 300 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: than likely potentially worked, or a friend to somebody who 301 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 3: knew her at work and gave information that they have 302 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: wealth potentially I don't know what their wealth is, but 303 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: gave information, Carl. There's been thousands of cases where people 304 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: have said that person's wealthy and people they've been killed, 305 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 3: they've been robbed, and they didn't have a dime, but 306 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: the word got out that they had some money. So 307 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: that happens. So let's let's figure this one out first. 308 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: The first plausible scenario is they went in because they 309 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: knew that she had money, They knew that she was elderly, 310 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: and they would be able to go in and manipulate 311 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 3: her to give them cash or go to the bank, 312 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 3: or do more than likely be able to transfer money 313 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: from her accounts online to money in other locations more 314 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: probably more like through bitcoin strategy, where you can transfer 315 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: money back and forth and you can transfer them all 316 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 3: over the world. It doesn't have to be to a bank, 317 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: it can be wherever. So let's look at those kinds 318 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: of things where she maybe was taken to be able 319 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: because they wanted to have a theft of her goods, 320 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: of her property, of her money, of her values, and 321 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 3: things like that. And as a result, maybe just maybe 322 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: because she was old, her because of the shock of that, 323 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: she could have died in their custody. When I say custody, 324 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: I don't mean their law enforcement. I mean but they 325 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: were kidnapped, right, they took custody of her. That's one 326 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: of the main focuses on kidnapping is whether or not 327 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: you took them by force without their desire, which is 328 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: in custody of somebody, and that kind of pressure could 329 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: have made her. She already had a weak heart, she 330 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: could have died, and then they have this person who 331 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 3: is dead and they've they got to cover it up. 332 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: But they also as a final recourse, want to make 333 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: some money, and maybe that final recourse is to be 334 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: able to do some sort of ransom or something like that. 335 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 3: The other one is that she died when they first 336 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 3: went in and it shocked her and she was overcome 337 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: with that, or as she's walking out she tripped and 338 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 3: fell when they're walking her out and she fell and 339 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 3: they had to remove her from the scene. And they 340 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: dumped the body somewhere, and that's probably the reason I 341 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: noticed that they were looking into the septic tanks that 342 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: was on the property. I believe it was septic tanks, 343 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: not sewer, but I may be wrong. You believe it 344 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: they were looking into the set because they couldn't you know, 345 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: the sewer it would draw attention because somebody that would 346 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: be clogged immediately. But septic tanks are different. And you know, 347 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: being able to look at that property and all over 348 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: to you know, find out where things may be hidden 349 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: is extremely important. So for me to think about, if 350 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: you're a police officer, you should be thinking about the 351 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: laws of probability first and know that something really unusual 352 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 3: still could happen, like a kidnapping and ransom attempt, right, 353 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: but you do have to factor in laws of probability 354 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 3: on other things that may be more likely to have occurred. 355 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: Okay, So the more I've been I remember you saying 356 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: this last week, making mention of this last week, and 357 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: again I'm speaking with my guest, doctor Curry Myers. Get 358 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: his substack doctor Curry Meyers dot substack dot com. Uh, 359 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: he spelled Curry c U R r i E. So 360 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: for those of you that are out there hungry and 361 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: wanting curry chicken. That's not the way you spell it. 362 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: I now, I just made my I just made myself hungry. 363 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: But okay, but now, Doc, I'm honestly when you said 364 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: that last week, I just I wasn't sure I would, 365 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: you know, but I but I've thought about it some 366 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: and and the more I think about it, and the 367 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: longer this case goes on, and obviously you have the 368 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 2: experience here, I don't, But I'm starting to wonder if 369 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 2: it's just like you said, if this was a somebody 370 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: that knew, knew her, knew of her, knew that they 371 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: had some Monday they pulled off. They pulled off a crime. 372 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: They've been great, at least so far, it seems, with 373 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: getting away with it. And I almost wonder if the 374 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 2: if the Savannah Guthrie thing was like a second Dary reaction, 375 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 2: meaning like I'm not even sure if they knew that 376 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: this woman was connected to Savannah Guthrie. Maybe they did. 377 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: Maybe they figured she must have money because she's connected. 378 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: Who don't I don't know, But I almost wonder if 379 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: if this ransom thing was, hey, let's just throw this 380 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: out there maybe we can get some extra money or 381 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: more money, or money we didn't get in the first place, 382 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: and we can we can skip town, or we can 383 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: just we can just throw them off. I guess I'm 384 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: it just circles back to where I was. I'm just 385 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 2: not I'm not even convinced that this ransom thing is 386 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: real anymore. Obviously, law enforcement has more information than you 387 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 2: and I do at this point in the guth threes, 388 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: but I just don't know if they're being duped, and 389 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: I feel so bad for them, but I'm starting to 390 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: think that this is a recovery. I hope that's not 391 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: the case, but that's the way I feel. Doc Well, 392 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: I do too. 393 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: I mean, there is a chance, there is a chance 394 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: that she is alive somewhere and still and you know, 395 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: can be saved. But I think this is a runout. 396 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 3: I think was we're going, look what happened to us? Okay, 397 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: maybe we can make some money on it this way, 398 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: but it's also a run out the clock opportunity, right, 399 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: So if I can do this and send this information 400 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: to help run out the clock, then I can get 401 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 3: away further from the crime that's occurred that I know 402 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 3: is on our hands, and so that I think is 403 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: a much more plausible idea because the further I can 404 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: capture in distance and time, the better chances I have 405 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: with getting away something with something, because to get real 406 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: evidence you've got to be able to capture it in 407 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: a real time period in order to use it against somebody. 408 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: If I'm stalling the clock, I'm going to try to 409 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: do that if I can. 410 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: In these cases, I have to admit, even if these 411 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: are amateurs, I've been impressed that they've been able to 412 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: get away thus far. But I hope they are caught. 413 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: I hope Nancy gut Thrie is found. I just think 414 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: it's unlikely. We'll be back with more on the other side. 415 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to the Carl Jackson Show again 416 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 2: your daily dose of objective truth in a world of 417 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: confusion and lies. Doct You wrote a substack last week, 418 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 2: and also there was a story that broke last week. 419 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 2: I wanted to speak to you about it then we 420 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: didn't have enough time. But I want to cover both 421 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: your substack and this story in just one segment if 422 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: we can. So we got to kind of be quick here. 423 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: But first off, there was a Chinese links bio lab 424 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: that was discovered in Las Vegas, which is absolutely insane 425 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: to me. And then you also spoke on the or 426 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: you wrote about the weaponization of migration, and obviously, yeah, 427 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: doctor Peter Schweitzer is out with a new book and 428 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: for I forget the title of it, but basically it 429 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: covers it covers that topic and how I believe it's 430 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: Mexico China, and I forget the other nation. Perhaps you 431 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: can remind me that he speaks of that have literally 432 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: used migration as a weapon against us. I don't think 433 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: you didn't go as far as him, I would say 434 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: in your substack, doc, but just give us your give 435 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: us your take on this Chinese bio lab and then 436 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: let's talk about the weaponization of migration. Because what Peter 437 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: Schweizer has written about is extremely plausible to me. I mean, 438 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: the guy has been right on time when it came 439 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 2: to Clinton Cash and some of these other books that 440 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: he's written, and it just seems plausible. You were bringing 441 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: in these Chinese students, you know, we have these Confucius schools. 442 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: I mean, all this kind of stuff which scares the 443 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: bajeebers out of me. And I'm not somebody that's anti 444 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: Chinese or this and that. But let's face it, you 445 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: have Chinese people that come into the United States, particularly students. 446 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: You've got a communist party that runs a surveillance state 447 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 2: as well in China, and that's really scary. And then 448 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: you got this Chinese bio lab ran by a guy 449 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: who seemingly, I mean, he had a biolab in I 450 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: believe it was. It was California, I forget what part. 451 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: I believe it was in La Just in twenty twenty 452 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: three they arrested the guy, but he's still running another 453 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: biolab in Las Vegas from jail from That's just insane. 454 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, I you know, chemical and biological weapons are 455 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 3: a real thing. Rudimentary chemical and biological weapons can be done. 456 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: During my tenure, I was in charge of the Clandestine 457 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: Laboratory Response Team, in which my team and I responded 458 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: to chemical drug lab, synthetic drug labs. Occasionally you would 459 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: respond to a biological lab, not very often but occasionally, 460 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: but that during that time period, we went through a 461 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 3: lot of training, not only by the federal government but 462 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: OSHA E PA all those kinds of things to you know, 463 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 3: make sure you're handling everything safe. It actually is not 464 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 3: difficult to create chemical weapons, uh. 465 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: With with with. 466 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 3: With precursor agents and reagents that you can get sometimes 467 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: over the counter, but especially you can get them from 468 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: foreign adversaries that can send them to you in various ways. 469 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 470 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: The same thing can occur with biologicals. It's not it's 471 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: not impossible thing to be able to do. It's harder 472 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: to weaponize those when aerosolic weaponize means aerosolize them. Basically, 473 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 3: it's harder to do that, but it's not impossible if 474 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: you have some of the technology and have some of 475 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 3: the equipment to be able to do It's been one 476 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 3: of my driving concerns when I look at soft target capabilities. 477 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 3: There was a time period when I right when I 478 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: retired from law enforcement, I was a defense contractor for 479 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: a agency and one of my one of my jobs 480 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: was to research and look at the relationship between Middle 481 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: Eastern terrorist organizations or meadows and uh Mexican drug trafficking organizations. 482 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: Stock you've done everything, you've got to have Jamaican blood 483 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: in you like a living color. For one job. 484 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: There was a time period I really enjoyed it. It was 485 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: great work. It was a it was a federal grant 486 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 3: that I that I worked on for two years, and 487 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: my job was to tabletop the potential soft targets that 488 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: could come into this country. That was because of the 489 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: partnership that was going on between Middle Eastern terrorist organizations 490 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: and Mexican drug traffic organizations and the linkage there. I 491 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: mean I researched and proved it and gave it to 492 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: my cohorts uh in the in the government and uh 493 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: and it's not anything private. It's well, it's well known 494 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: now that there's that kind of linkage that's going on. 495 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: Actually when it came to cartel use, so the ability 496 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: to use these for drugs, the manufacturer of drugs in particular, 497 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: so we know that this can occur. Uh. And it's 498 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: uh So these labs are around and you have to 499 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: be careful, and law enforcement has to be careful because 500 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: you never know when you can stumble into one, and 501 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: you never know. If somebody calls and says, I think 502 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: we have you know this lab here and you're not 503 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: fully informed about it, I think we need to go 504 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: back to training law enforcement more on these kind of 505 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: unexpected situations. But it's not it's not a difficult thing 506 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: to do. If you have the precursor agents and the 507 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 3: reagents to be able to make these kinds of chemical 508 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: and biological components. And so those are the dangers and 509 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 3: and don't forget now. Now we move into the section 510 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: where I looked at Sweitzer's information and I thought to myself, okation, 511 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: I need to either as a research sure, I need 512 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: to either disprove or prove or say there's not enough 513 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: information to say that I agree with Sweitzer's written beliefs. 514 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: And there is evidence there to prove that we definitely 515 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: have a Chinese Communist Party influence campaign. We know that 516 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: everybody knows that they use covert and the overt overt 517 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: influence activities in this country. They use dispora linkages, which 518 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: are communities that are really Chinese communities another in other countries. 519 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: It's not just like in minneapolies exactly. 520 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: So what dispora communities are happening all over the United States. 521 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 3: It's happening with Middle Eastern terrorist organizations, countries that are 522 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: propped up. Remember, we had one height about one hundred 523 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: thousand special interest aliens in this country that we're unaccounted 524 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: for special interest aliens, Karl. If you remember our people 525 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: who are associated with known terrorist countries. They're not necessarily 526 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: known terrorists, they're associated with countries that are known terrists. 527 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: So that's there's But there was a hundred thousand carl 528 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: that were in this country that had that the Biden 529 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: administration had lost and nowhere to be found. So if 530 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: you look at the thirty thousand, at one time, there 531 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 3: were thirty thousand lost Chinese immigrants into this country that 532 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: were unaccounted for. And then we all know the amount 533 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: from Latin America that it has come into the country 534 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: that was unaccounted for. Now, let's say conservatives to the 535 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: Karl that just five percent are bad actors. Well, if 536 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 3: the total number is twenty five million into this country 537 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: that probably is a conservative estimate, then five percent of 538 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: that is a large number that's embedded in the United States. 539 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: And these kind of disk communities that their whole purpose 540 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: is to try to engage and be patient and look 541 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: at look at the country as kind of a anticipating 542 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: potential soft targets that can be manipulated, that can be 543 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: blown up, that could be taken advantage of whatever it 544 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: may be, or look for political events that are occurring 545 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: in this country in which they can infuse people into 546 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: them to help prop it up with boots on the ground, 547 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: and at the same time use people who get through 548 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: social contagions. They get all up in arms about these things, 549 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: the kind of derangement system syndrome that's occurring where people go, oh, 550 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: look what's happened. Look what's happened, And then all of 551 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: a sudden, this dispore a community comes in and is 552 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: linked to it, and and and says, yeah, we agree 553 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: with you, and we're we support you, and now we're 554 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 3: going to send money to you, and now we're going 555 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 3: to send signs to you, and now we're going to 556 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 3: hire you to go prote test. And at the same time, 557 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 3: the actual governments are also doing cyber terrorism, cyber penetration. 558 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 3: They're purchasing land in this country, they're really purchasing neighborhoods 559 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: to actually turn into cities, which we know is occurring 560 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: because there's been there's been places that have done that 561 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: in America. And that's the argument that I'm now trying 562 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: to say, Hey, we got a real problem, folks, because 563 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: I was able to link them all together and say, 564 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: you know, Sweitzer's onto something. And if Switzer's onto something, 565 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: the government better take a bigger look at this to 566 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: ensure that we're on top of it and paying attention 567 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: to these details. And so the elements are all there 568 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: for this to occur. And we're seeing this kind of 569 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: behavior is going on in places like Minneapolis and others 570 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: where all of a sudden it just goes phoo, the 571 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: same thing things not happening in another They're happening only 572 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 3: in left centered population centers. 573 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: And they have discovered links. Uh you know, so the 574 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: from the Chinese Communist Party bolstering some of these organizations, 575 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: sure that these people are associated with So it's a 576 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: it's a terrifying thought. Docuy. 577 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 3: We have a Chinese we have Chinese police, we have 578 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: actual Chinese police facilities in the United States. 579 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean I think we know. I think we 580 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: did a podcast on this a couple of years back. 581 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 2: Doc If I'm not mistaken. 582 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: Getting tired of talking about it with nobody's paying attention. 583 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 2: Tell you what, tell you what? If you could? Can 584 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: you stay one more segment? Doctor, I want to wrap 585 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: this up. We gotta be quick, but I need to 586 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: get through all of this. You are listening to the 587 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: Carl Jackson Show again, Please, subscribe, like and share all 588 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 2: things social media at Carl Jackson Show. At The Carl 589 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: Jackson Show, Like, share, and subscribe. I'm sorry, YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, 590 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 2: Salem Podcast Network, wherever you go to get your podcast, 591 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: The Carl Jackson Show is where you can go to 592 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: find me. We'll be back to wrap this up on 593 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: the other side, at least this segment. Okay, welcome back. 594 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 2: Doctor Curry Myers has a great to stay with me 595 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: for one more segment. We're going to try to make 596 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: this as quick as possible. But I do think this 597 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: is a very important topic that we're simply not talking 598 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: about enough. And Peter Schweizer is out with a new 599 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: book and as a researcher and as a former law 600 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: enforcement official criminologist, today doctor Curry Myers has dug in 601 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 2: to this, to this theory. If you will, I mean 602 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: you look you look at we're looking at I believe 603 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: the subversion or undermining of America as we know it 604 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: by the CCP, by Islamic terrorists, even by the country 605 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 2: of Mexico that we don't think about. But Doc, if 606 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: I we we were touching on China some we mentioned 607 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: the police stations that they literally had inside of the 608 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 2: United States, as well as farmland next to military basis, 609 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 2: which is absolutely insane. And for some reason, I don't 610 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 2: know why we're not talking about this in the news anymore. 611 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 2: It's kind of become an afterthought, perhaps because maybe the 612 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 2: deportations have taken so much. I don't know, but these 613 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 2: are things that we need to be talking about. Obviously, 614 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: Islamic terrorism. People are quick to go after Christians are 615 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: quick to go after Jews, many leftists, and sadly some 616 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: people they claim to be conservatives. But I think the 617 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: reason why is because they know Jews and Christians aren't 618 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: going to strap a bomb to themselves and go, you know, 619 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 2: blow them up or or decapitate them or do something 620 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: crazy crazy like that. And then you have Mexico doc. 621 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 2: I can tell you, and I have a friend that 622 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: I consider a brother of mine that happens to be Mexican. 623 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: I grew up in Los Angeles, California, with tons of 624 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: Mexican Mexicans, and I can tell you back then, when 625 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 2: I was a kid, I used to hear all the time, 626 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna take over California, We're gonna take over the 627 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 2: United States. This is stolen land. Like, none of this 628 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: stuff is new. But what concerns me is that it 629 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 2: seemed like that was starting to die out. And now 630 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: you've got a new generation of youngsters that are complete 631 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 2: useful idiots for the Left, and they're learning all this 632 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 2: stuff and they don't know true history. I mean, they 633 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: don't know that we fought a war. We don't know 634 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 2: that there's a such thing as conquest. And even though 635 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: we won these territories, we still paid Mexico, and many 636 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: of the Mexicans decided to stay in the United States 637 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: instead of go back to the territory of Mexico. But 638 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 2: that's another history lesson for another day. But let's get 639 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 2: into if you wanna. If you want to close things 640 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: out on China, let's do so, but real quickly, Doc, 641 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 2: I want to hear your take on Mexico and their 642 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: influence as well as as UH Islamic terrorists that are 643 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: in this country. 644 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 3: Well, from the Mexican front, it's it's controlled by the cartels, 645 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 3: controlled by the cartels. So the Mexican government is a 646 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 3: is an actor that does what the cartel's bidding wants 647 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 3: UH and the evidence supports that. In most research, most 648 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: of the politicians have been taken care of and been 649 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 3: promised the kind of votes necessary. The ones that have 650 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: fought against them have been killed, the true ones that 651 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 3: that did want to have freedom. And then there's now 652 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 3: there are cartels that war amongst each other. We know 653 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 3: that occurs, but it goes back to the old patent 654 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 3: general patent adage and enemy of my enemy is my friend. 655 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 3: And so right now all the cartels are in singular 656 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 3: focus on the destruction of America. And why is that Well, 657 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: because they're losing revenue as a result of the sanctions 658 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 3: that have been put on by the Trump administration. It's 659 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 3: not really sanctions as much as just shutting down the 660 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 3: border because of the amount of people that have come in, 661 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 3: all that money and all that outflow that goes back 662 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 3: to Mexico. There's an enormous amount of revenue that comes 663 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 3: that gets taken out of the United States and goes 664 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 3: back to Mexico. That goes goes to the Mexican government, 665 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: and it goes to families in Mexico. It's a large 666 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 3: amount of money that goes out and then what comes 667 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 3: into the country is drugs comes what can comes into 668 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: the country is humans that come in there's a need 669 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 3: for those, and the need is from worldwide humans. It's 670 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 3: not just you know, someone from Mexico itself. They're coming 671 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 3: from all over different countries and it's and it's also 672 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 3: there to fuel and help where they make money on 673 00:39:54,120 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 3: sex addiction, migrant workforce, which is forced labor. It's basically 674 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 3: destitute where you have to if you go to work 675 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: for somebody, you might get paid, but what you're getting 676 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 3: paid is going to be subtracted from what you owe 677 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 3: for living expenses and for rent, and you end up 678 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 3: owing them more and so you never get out of that. 679 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 3: You know, that kind of constant circle of owing money, 680 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 3: and then you basically owe owe them for your life 681 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 3: and have to continue to work. And the whole mindset 682 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 3: is you wanted to come into work to bring your 683 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 3: family over, but you're caught in this web of deceit 684 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 3: because you owe the people who brought you into this 685 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 3: country money, because you can never get out of the work, 686 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: and the fact that they propped you up and put 687 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 3: you up and gave you food and all that kind 688 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 3: of stuff. So that's going on. It's the most unchristian 689 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 3: thing that's ever occurred in the world, where you have 690 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: these persons. It's not the first time it happened in America. 691 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 3: It happened in America, especially when we saw the building 692 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 3: of the railroads where Chinese migrant Irish migrants came into 693 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 3: this country and basically worked on the railroad and many 694 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 3: times they owed so much money to the people who 695 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,959 Speaker 3: sponsored them, companies who sponsored them. They never could leave 696 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 3: because they owed him back money for rent and food 697 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 3: and all the things that was used to taking care 698 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: of them. So this is kind of you know, occurring 699 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 3: once again. So history can often repeat itself, and if 700 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 3: you go back in time, the history's there when it 701 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 3: comes to the people who were exploited on the railroads 702 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 3: in America in order to help build it. It was 703 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 3: a labor force that was needed. But what you know, 704 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 3: what the government wanted done and what people did was 705 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 3: took advantage of the workforce that came in and they 706 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 3: basically were indentured servants as they came in. You know, 707 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 3: very few of them were able to leave that time period. 708 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: That the kind of stuff you have to go back 709 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 3: and look at Mexico when it comes to their anti 710 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: Christian bias in many ways, because you can go back 711 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 3: to the early nineteen twenties where the Mexican government was 712 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 3: involved in this with the Soviet Union, and the Soviet 713 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 3: Union sent agents over to help prop up Mexico and 714 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 3: provide a workforce because they wanted to have an easy 715 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 3: route into the United States. And that's where we saw 716 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 3: the Christo Ray Wars. Have you ever heard about Christos 717 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 3: and the Christo Ray Wars? 718 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 2: Where it was Now, I've got to look that up. Doc. 719 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 3: I was unaware that government basically shut down the Catholic 720 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 3: Church and they weren't allowed to They killed people who 721 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 3: went to mass and try to do it because they 722 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 3: wanted it was it was a Soviet backing to be 723 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 3: able to do that. America was concerned about Mexico in 724 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 3: World wld War two and whether or not it was 725 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 3: going to be used by the Nazis even to be 726 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 3: able to put manpower in there to build a force 727 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 3: that would come up through Mexico into the United States. 728 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 3: Because of the Mexican government was so unstable. So if 729 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 3: you go back in history, there's things that have occurred 730 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 3: that that kind of shows this instability. And then you 731 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 3: go over to the other side of the world and 732 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 3: then into the Middle East where organizations like the Muslim 733 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 3: Brotherhood and the Ottoman Empire. All you got to do 734 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 3: is go back and look in history to see the 735 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 3: history of raising armies to attack the West, and World 736 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 3: War One was that it was the Germans and the 737 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 3: Ottoman Empire. And the Ottoman Empire were Muslims that came 738 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 3: up through the Middle East and they were extremely successful 739 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 3: and taking over parts of Africa and even got into 740 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 3: the southern part of Europe. They were on a war. 741 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 3: You go back even further than that that it you know, 742 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 3: it's history kind of keeps repeating itself, Carl in many ways, 743 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 3: so they don't go away. And after World War Two, 744 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood began to rise and thought about the 745 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: long game. And the long game was, hey, let's stop 746 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 3: attacking people, let's stop raising armies to attack people, Let's 747 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 3: embed people into cultures and wait. 748 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: And and and then you get useful idiots on the left, 749 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 2: both in Europe and in the United States that stop 750 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: having babies while these people get their freaking like jack rabbits. 751 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it's absolutely insane. My my big concern, and 752 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: we're speaking to doctor Curry Myers. Find them at doctor 753 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 2: Curry Meyers dot substack dot com, doctor Curry Meyers dot 754 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 2: substack dot com. You can check out his writings there. 755 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,720 Speaker 2: But my concern is doct that this stuff is working 756 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 2: the weaponization of migration. I feel like when I look 757 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: at a lot of these white leftists, particularly in places 758 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 2: like Minneapolis, it's as if it's as if they're being brainwashed, 759 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 2: not just by lefties on college campuses, but they're they're 760 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 2: buying into anti Semitic tropes, They're they're I mean, they're 761 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 2: being funded obviously by the CCP. They talk about the 762 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 2: evils of capitalism, yet communism kills people and has killed, 763 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 2: you know, millions of hundreds of millions of people in 764 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: the in the twentieth century. It's just insane. You look 765 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 2: at Mexico again, run by cartels. You've got people that 766 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 2: want to flee to the United States from parts of 767 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 2: Latin America and particularly Mexico, and yet they want to 768 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: transform the nation. Which is the craziest, the craziest thing 769 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 2: to me. But anyway, close us out. We only got 770 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 2: twenty second stock. 771 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 3: But it's yours well, and I'm a man of faith, 772 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 3: and I know you are too, And we can't forget 773 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 3: the fact that Satan loves what's going on and he 774 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 3: has been He's as patient as anyone to be able 775 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 3: to play, you know, these kinds of cards and make 776 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 3: us divide against each other. So yeah, there's some baiting, 777 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 3: big concerns here. Again. People can look at my substack 778 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 3: at doctor Curry Myers dot substack dot com. And I 779 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 3: have a radio show that's in San Bernardino and Kmet 780 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 3: called America's Criminologist. It's every Tuesday. You can tune into 781 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 3: that and we're streamed everywhere. 782 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, doctor Curry Myers, once again, I appreciate 783 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 2: you joining us to enlighten us. So God bless you man. 784 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 2: We'll check you out next time.