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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show here at

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Speaker 2: the YREFI Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. Welcome Blake. So there's

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Speaker 2: lots going on this morning. We're gonna hit the de

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna give you a quick update on the

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Speaker 4: We knew it was fragile. Has anything updated since yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Well, Vice President Advance is out front and he I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think this is interesting is because Vice President Vance.

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Speaker 2: He was very vocal about it internally. We've known this

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Speaker 2: the weekend, so he's being asked about different aspects of

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Speaker 2: very important to give us framework through which to process

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Speaker 2: everything that's going on, and one of the main keys

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Speaker 2: I'll say, let's go ahead and start sought one.

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Speaker 5: I think the Iranians thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon,

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Speaker 5: and it just didn't. We never made that promise, We

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Speaker 2: To be the case.

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Speaker 5: What we said is that the ceasefire would be focused

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Speaker 4: This Get says something unusual, which is a lot of

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Speaker 4: But you do see where there can be issues there

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Speaker 5: Ten point proposal that was much more reasonable, that was

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Speaker 2: It's just a yeah, we effing straight opened the straight.

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Speaker 4: The reason we got here is we attempted to do

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Speaker 2: actually to its next conquest. Conquest is quite the word there.

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Speaker 2: I agree actually in letting the piece talks go forward.

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Speaker 4: There's actually a perfect overlap here with what we said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it's just an absolute brutal killing.

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Speaker 4: This is a choice. This is a choice within living memory.

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Speaker 2: It's also a reminder that, as frustrated as you might be,

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Speaker 2: We spend so much time talking about seventeen seventy six

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Speaker 2: In theaters April third, Visit a Great Awakening dot com

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Speaker 6: And thanks for having me. It's always good to be here.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have you. You have been out front.

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Speaker 2: You have been sparring with Congresswoman Salasar out of Miami

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Speaker 2: about the dignity DoD Act.

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Speaker 4: Gotta say it right every time trying to run this

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Speaker 2: I saw a tweet of something to that effect. Is

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Speaker 6: No, this is an amnesty bill, plain and simple. Just

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Speaker 2: You know what's so frustrating as well, Brandon, is it's like, okay,

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Speaker 6: Well that's the question. And you know what's really insane

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Speaker 6: But of course, these these big agribusiness or other lobbyists

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Speaker 7: I don't know what shadows you're looking at, but they're

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Speaker 7: Are fraud in California. But this idea, and that's why

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Speaker 3: They're not already given amnesty. Why do you come on

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Speaker 8: country period, and the bill provides for that. I don't

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Speaker 8: want anyone getting a waiver. I don't want anyone getting

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Speaker 8: a free passion the legislation. If you have committed a legislation,

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Speaker 8: a simple.

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Speaker 7: Question, please tell my audience, how does an immigration officer

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Speaker 7: determine continuous presence?

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Speaker 8: If they cannot prove continuous presence, they wouldn't qualify for this.

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Speaker 7: And I can't imagine Democrat immigration officers under a Democrat

441
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Speaker 7: president in the future was going to hold the strict

442
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Speaker 7: you know, we're not going to let any criminals in.

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Speaker 2: Man. She she went for it.

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Speaker 4: Even with the continuous presence. I believe there's parts of

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Speaker 4: this bill that literally will allow people who are previously

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Speaker 4: deported to return.

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Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, you react to that clip.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know that. Mike Lawler is a friend of mine.

449
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 6: So is Maria Salazar. By the way, they're friends and

450
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Speaker 6: their colleagues. They're just wrong on this and they're you know,

451
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Speaker 6: and I'm glad to see that the reality of this

452
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Speaker 6: bill is being made more and more clear to the

453
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Speaker 6: American people because you hear language, hear people saying things

454
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Speaker 6: like the current state of affairs is amnesty because these

455
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Speaker 6: people are living in the shadows and nothing is happening.

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Speaker 6: That is just blatantly not true. The current state of

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Speaker 6: affairs is that if you're an illegal alien in the

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Speaker 6: United States, you are subject to deportation, and if you're caught,

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Speaker 6: you're going to be deported out of the country. What

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Speaker 6: this bill does is stops those deportations from happening. So

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Speaker 6: this is by any standard in amnesty. But we have

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Speaker 6: to be straightforward about this, have to be straightforward about

463
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Speaker 6: the fact that this bill does not have any serious

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Speaker 6: vetting requirements. This bill does not ensure that criminal illegal

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Speaker 6: aliens are taken out of the country, or that we

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Speaker 6: can actually ensure the people who are given amnesty should

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Speaker 6: be in our country. There's no practical way to that

468
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Speaker 6: twelve million people in a short period of time. So

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Speaker 6: none of that stuff is true. But we know that

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Speaker 6: on the surface that anything that is amnesty, we ought

471
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Speaker 6: to stay away from it. It's you know, at the

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Speaker 6: end of the day, it's really that simple.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to give you an example of why

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Speaker 2: some of this. Anytime we give an inch that are

475
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Speaker 2: going to take a mile and it's going to screw

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Speaker 2: us up. And so here's a Salvadorian MS thirteen terrorist

477
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Speaker 2: and he's an international fugitive. This is according to the

478
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Speaker 2: US Customs, Immigration and Customs Enforcement Danny Granados Garcia. He's

479
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Speaker 2: wanted in his home country for murdering a pastor allegedly.

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Speaker 2: This guy is an example of we wouldn't deport him

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't have a rap sheet in this country.

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Speaker 2: We don't know when he necessarily got here, but he's

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Speaker 2: wanted for murder in his home country. Right, So this

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Speaker 2: is the semantics anytime you give these little carve outs

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Speaker 2: that what are we supposed to do with this? No,

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Speaker 2: you got to give Ice and Customs and Border Patrol

487
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Speaker 2: full leeway to get them all out. You're all on

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Speaker 2: the board. If you are an illegal here, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get you out. This guy's a murderer in his home country,

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Speaker 2: but he hasn't committed a crime here. And this is

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Speaker 2: the types of people that they want us to just

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Speaker 2: ignore out of some misplaced sense of compassion. Meanwhile, you know,

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Speaker 2: excuse me. Meanwhile, we're seeing Haitians in Florida, you know,

494
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Speaker 2: just bludgeon gas station clerks. This is none of this

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Speaker 2: should be happening if we had the will to do it.

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Speaker 2: And Randon, Congressman, I think you are one of the

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Speaker 2: few that has just the sane, consistent drumbeat voice on

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Speaker 2: this stuff, and it's so important that you're out front

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Speaker 2: doing this. So final forty five seconds to you on

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Speaker 2: this issue.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that there's nothing compassionate about open borders, and

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Speaker 6: there's nothing dignified about giving illegal aliens amnesty. The people

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Speaker 6: whose dignity we should be concerned about are the American

504
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Speaker 6: citizens whose jobs are being take and whose wages are

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Speaker 6: being suppressed, whose communities are being transformed, whose children schools

506
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Speaker 6: are now flooded with fentanyl, who are trying to take

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Speaker 6: their kids to soccer practice, and are seeing illegal aliens

508
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Speaker 6: driving eighteen wheelers on their streets that are now more dangerous.

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Speaker 6: Those are the people that we should be looking out for.

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Speaker 6: Those are people, by the way, that we as elected representatives,

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Speaker 6: whose interests we actually represent, not illegal aliens. There's nothing

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Speaker 6: compassionate about open borders, there's nothing compassionate about amnesty, and

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Speaker 6: we ought to return to first principles about who we represent,

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Speaker 6: and that's the American citizen.

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Speaker 2: It's not no. Not only is it not compassionate, it's

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Speaker 2: cruelty to Americans. Yep, Congressmen, well done on this. Keep

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Speaker 2: charging you know. I don't want to cause you any problems,

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Speaker 2: but I could see a Senate run in your future

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Speaker 2: one day. I don't want to cause any I know

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Speaker 2: it gets very territoriled down there. I'm just saying, you

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Speaker 2: know I would be let's.

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Speaker 6: Kill this amnesty bill before we think about it.

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Speaker 2: All right, I don't cause you problems, brother, all right?

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Speaker 2: Brandon gil from Texas's twenty six congressional district. Thank you, sir,

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Speaker 2: keep up the good work.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have another country we got to turn

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Speaker 2: our attention to. However, and there is a new acronym

561
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Speaker 2: that that is apparently going around.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, it is mm hold on, hold on, don't

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Speaker 4: say we have to let them play the clips letters.

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Speaker 4: We have to let them play the car We have

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Speaker 4: rect We love making fun of him. So as a

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Speaker 4: pastime is it here? It's eleven.

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Speaker 9: When the budget was released, I was shocked to find

568
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Speaker 9: out that Prime Minister Carney is cutting seven billion dollars

569
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Speaker 9: between Indigenous Services Canada and Crown Indigenous Relations. They provided

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Speaker 9: zero dollars to deal with the ongoing genocide of mm

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Speaker 9: I w G two s l G B t q

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Speaker 9: q I A plus. This is abhorrent, This is callous.

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Speaker 9: Rates of violence are increasing and what is the Prime

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Speaker 9: Minister doing? He is turning a blind eye on this violence.

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Speaker 4: The best part was how smoothly it came out. That

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Speaker 4: is a person who uses that term all the time.

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Speaker 4: What it means, I don't, I can't know. You know

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Speaker 4: what's embarrassing. You know what's embarrassing. You don't need to

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Speaker 4: read what it means, because I know what it means

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Speaker 4: just from hearing it.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 4: But here's what it actually means. No, no, but I

583
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Speaker 4: want I know what it means so I can recite it.

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Speaker 4: That's I need to like prove myself here.

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Speaker 2: So he.

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Speaker 4: Just going off memory. So it starts with M M

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Speaker 4: I WG. So that all what's weird is it's the

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Speaker 4: it's the gay acronym. But it's actually like how to

589
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Speaker 4: put this, it's not actually the case of it's missing

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Speaker 4: and murdered Indigenous women and girls. And so this is

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Speaker 4: a whole thing in Canada where they've made a big

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Speaker 4: cause that First Nations, Inuit, Native Americans basically, but in Canada, uh,

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Speaker 4: they're more likely to be missing and they're more likely

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Speaker 4: to be murdered. The reason for this is they are

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Speaker 4: in relationships with First Nations and Inuit men, and there's

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Speaker 4: they commit more domestic violence per capita, more murders per capita.

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Speaker 4: They unfortunately it's a community with a lot of problems,

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Speaker 4: similar to what you'd see in the United States, and

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Speaker 4: so that's why. But in Canada you're required by lots

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Speaker 4: also punish people less for crimes if they're First Nations

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Speaker 4: or Black for example. So they're literally more likely to

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Speaker 4: be victimized because of the laws Canada has like that

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Speaker 4: is what is going on here, so they go from there.

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Speaker 4: Then they have two S that means two spirit. This

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Speaker 4: is a made up thing from about nineteen ninety ninety

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Speaker 4: one where they just made it up. Or it's basically

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Speaker 4: you're an Indian, a First Nations person and also gay.

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Speaker 4: That is what it is. They just made up a

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Speaker 4: new category for being gay. But if you're in that group,

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Speaker 4: then you should know LGBT, lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans. Then

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Speaker 4: QQ that is Q queer and questioning, so queer is

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Speaker 4: sort of gay, but catch all lots of different things.

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Speaker 4: Questioning you're not sure?

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Speaker 2: Do they have I in there?

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Speaker 4: Yes, and that's inter sex, then A and then A

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Speaker 4: is allies and then you still got to have plus

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Speaker 4: us because this is not all consuming. We might add

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Speaker 4: new letters to it later. So that is the full

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Speaker 4: explanation of that acronym. I spent time in a university

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Speaker 4: where I had to learn all of this amazing.

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Speaker 2: So apparently murdered is now a queer identity, which is

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Speaker 2: you know, why not? I mean, we should just throw

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Speaker 2: in every other intersectional group that we can in this.

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Speaker 2: Can we play the clip one more time? I just

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Speaker 2: want to hear her, that's too just off put it off.

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Speaker 2: After that, Ye yeah, play the play the side again.

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Speaker 9: When the budget was released, I was shocked to find

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Speaker 9: out that Prime Minister Carney is cutting seven billion dollars

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Speaker 9: between Indigenous Services Canada and Crown Indigenous Relations. They provided

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Speaker 9: zero dollars to deal with the ongoing genocide of mm

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Speaker 9: I w G two s l g b t q

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Speaker 9: q I A plus.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's commitment, ruthless, just oh crushes it, okay,

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Speaker 4: So proud of her.

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Speaker 2: So not only can Canada not beat us in hockey,

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Speaker 2: the one sport they're supposed to and they, by the way,

638
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Speaker 2: they also lost the World Series to the Dodgers, which

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Speaker 2: I'm still still happy about, very happy about it. They

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Speaker 2: are suiciding themselves on purpose, and they have government funds

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Speaker 2: for that. But now they are upset that m m

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Speaker 2: I w q G two's l g b t q

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Speaker 2: q I A plus funding has been cut by Carney.

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Speaker 4: M M i w G two s l g b

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Speaker 4: t q q q I A plus. I think I

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Speaker 4: got I think I got an extra Q in there

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Speaker 4: on q q q q q q. What are your

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Speaker 4: thoughts and us your thoughts about Canada. Are you glad,

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Speaker 4: especially if your first DA what's it like, because yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's easy to joke about this, but you know, to

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Speaker 4: be serious for a moment. Canada is this road not

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Speaker 4: taken where they've kind of kept down the call it

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty vibe, the Obama vibe, like maximally live

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Speaker 4: on everything. So stuff that is at least contested here

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Speaker 4: in the US full born in Canada. So they have

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Speaker 4: maximum assistant suicide. They have state mandated discrimination in criminal punishments.

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Speaker 4: They allow you to discriminate based on race and sex

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Speaker 4: for a job. I saw that at one of their universities.

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Speaker 4: They're hiring for a forestry professor. But the person being

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Speaker 4: hired has to be disabled. You must be a disabled

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Speaker 4: person or identify as a disabled person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I was going to say. I

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Speaker 2: actually was talking to a gentleman, and so it's like

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four never happened in Canada. But the I

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Speaker 2: was talking to a gentleman that was you know, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about all the fracturing that's going on and the

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Speaker 2: movement and the coalition. He just was like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: these are the golden years. I'm telling you this is

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Speaker 2: a golden age. I was like, why is that?

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Speaker 4: He said, well, listen, my company I almost got delisted

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Speaker 4: from one of the stock exchanges because I didn't have

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Speaker 4: a gay or a man or a woman on my board.

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Speaker 2: And who said that. This gentleman on his board was like, listen,

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Speaker 2: if I need to identify as a as a you know, gay, black,

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00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: eighty year old man, I'm gonna do that. But that

676
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: does None of that exists anymore. This was years ago

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00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: now and we've overcome a lot of the woke garbage

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00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: and companies are actually able to just be a company

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Speaker 2: that's focused on making money. They don't have to have disabled, queer, black,

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00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: lesbians or whatever on their board just to satisfy some

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Speaker 2: quota requirement. This is absolutely forward progress. And I want

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Speaker 2: to show you guys one other thing that because you know,

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Speaker 2: I think we don't pay attention enough to all the wins.

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Speaker 2: If you're frustrated with some of the present decisions, whether

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Speaker 2: that's Iran or something else, just remember how much worse

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00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: this actually could be. Right now, we have this graphic.

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Speaker 2: It is The graphic is about asylum claims. So this

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Speaker 2: was a breaking news story that happened, asylum grants. Grant

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Speaker 2: rates have plummeted. Average monthly rate for decided asylum cases

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Speaker 2: is down to seven percent. Now if you compare and

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Speaker 2: contrast that to those spikes during Biden and Obama, we

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Speaker 2: have made massive problems or progress. You know why, because

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Speaker 2: the asylum system is rife with fraud. People claim anything

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Speaker 2: they want. If you can claim the Democrat logic, if

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Speaker 2: you can claim that you are a queer, mm LGBTQYA

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Speaker 2: plus whatever without anybody questioning it or being allowed to

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Speaker 2: question it, well you can claim asylum and nobody's allowed

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Speaker 2: to question it. Those days are over. It's down to

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Speaker 2: use promo code Charlie. We have Rich Barris on the line. Rich,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to

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Speaker 2: see my friend you as well. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, listen, Uh, I am told I'm credibly told

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Speaker 2: Rich that we're not allowed to say mass deportations anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's out, it's it's what's in mass deportations is out.

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Speaker 2: Digny Dodd is in.

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Speaker 4: Amnesty is in worst of the worst, worse the worst.

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Speaker 2: You know. So, okay, what am I missing here? I'll

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Speaker 2: give the audience a little uh, a little precursor. We uh,

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Speaker 2: we've been texting, and you told me there's quite the

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Speaker 2: quite the little uh backstory here.

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Speaker 4: So the floor is yours, Rich, tell us what you know.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, so there isn't this isn't new, right, Amnesty is

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Speaker 3: never dead, and I think the right knows that the

736
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Speaker 3: Republican base voters know that amnesty is never dead. Amnesty

737
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Speaker 3: is always right around the corner, and you always have

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Speaker 3: to guard against it because a lot of Republican donors

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00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 3: want amnesty, right, And I argued, when we saw these

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Speaker 3: protests going on against ICE, you're not going to see

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Speaker 3: any investigations into who organizes these protests because I think

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Speaker 3: you'd be a little bit surprised by some of the

743
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Speaker 3: people that are okay with them. And this is a backstory,

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Speaker 3: all right. So I just wanted to say that as

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Speaker 3: a preface, Andrew, but look last year, right, just to

746
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Speaker 3: dive right into this last year, I awong with some

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Speaker 3: other pollsters that are considered you know, credible by MAGA.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 3: We're asked to collaborate on a project that was sold

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Speaker 3: initially as a way that if there could be a

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Speaker 3: grand bargain, what are the deal breakers with MAGA voters

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Speaker 3: and what would you have to do? And this included

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Speaker 3: everything you just said and went over. You can't use

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Speaker 3: words like that with MAGA, right, you know that, So

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Speaker 3: how could it be sold? Et cetera, et cetera. I

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Speaker 3: didn't even want to sign on to it, Andrew, and

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Speaker 3: unless I was given an explicit an explicit promise, whatever

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Speaker 3: you want to call it, that this will not be

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00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: misrepresented to the president with that without without my presence, right,

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Speaker 3: And that's what I was concerned. What happened to the product?

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Speaker 6: We did.

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Speaker 3: A huge national study. We did, I want to say

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Speaker 3: it had to be at least a dozen states, at least.

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Speaker 3: I actually think it was more like sixteen eighteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it may have been. I'm not sure how many some

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Speaker 3: of the others had it. It is at least sixteen

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Speaker 3: just judging from what I know people did. And then

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Speaker 3: focus groups, of course, and we did this in not

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Speaker 3: just battleground states. It had to be more You're right,

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Speaker 3: it was this battleground adjacent. One of them was Maine.

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Speaker 3: For crying out loud, right, because why we were concerned

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Speaker 3: about the second Congressional district. Donald Trump performs there in

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Speaker 3: a way that other Republicans do not because of Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump's base, his coalition, which is not the Republican coalition.

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Speaker 3: They're two totally different things, and unfortunately, is what people

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00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: should know. I mean, unfortunately, that's what the donors who paid,

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Speaker 3: you know, the who paid donor who paid for the project,

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Speaker 3: really wanted, which is why I didn't want to sign

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Speaker 3: on to it without getting that guarantee. I got that guarantee.

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Speaker 3: I warned the Vice President that they would probably try

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Speaker 3: to go behind my back and sell it to him

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Speaker 3: without completely misinterpreting what it said, completely misreading the data,

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Speaker 3: or honestly, let's be real, intentionally obfuscating what it said.

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Speaker 3: And the report that we gave was filled with caveats,

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Speaker 3: filled with nuances, and to make a very long story short,

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what they did. So they wanted the names,

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Speaker 3: they wanted the credibility, and they wanted the stamps of

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Speaker 3: all the guys like me who polled well in the

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Speaker 3: TRUMPERA and know, the Magna Coalition, but they did not

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Speaker 3: want guys like me, and not just me, but others

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Speaker 3: you know, who are more reliable to tell the truth,

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Speaker 3: to convey to the president what it actually meant. So

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Speaker 3: they waltsoed there and tried to sell it to him.

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Speaker 3: And this is where we are now.

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Speaker 2: To sum it up, you're saying that there was a

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Speaker 2: moneyed individual that basically wanted a result and when you

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Speaker 2: didn't deliver the results because actually mass deportations are more

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Speaker 2: popular than I guess this individual wanted them to be,

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Speaker 2: or at least there was nuance in the way the

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Speaker 2: polling was actually the results you got, you then got

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Speaker 2: cut out of the process.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you despite having a guarantee?

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Speaker 2: This is this is why, this is why you need

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Speaker 2: to be very suspicious about polling friends out in the audience. So, okay,

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Speaker 2: you sent me a list of three things that you

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Speaker 2: thought that the polling actually revealed, and one of them

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Speaker 2: has to do with masks. One of them is with

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Speaker 2: the FBI and what constitutes crimes that will get you

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Speaker 2: punished if you get in the way of ice officers. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so why don't you walk us through your three points?

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Speaker 3: So we and it's important to know how early this was.

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Speaker 3: We identified before it became you know, social media sensation,

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Speaker 3: before big media started to run with this. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: had left wing media talking about Ice and using They

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Speaker 3: at that time had the Ice narrative basically all to themselves.

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Speaker 3: We were wrapped up and very busy with other things

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Speaker 3: like Operation Midnight Hammer. I mean, that's how long ago

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00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 3: this was when they started this. Yeah, and we basically

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Speaker 3: warned them that, look, Ice is having an image issue.

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Speaker 3: So there are a couple of things you have to

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Speaker 3: do to address it, because you can't cave on mass deportations.

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Speaker 3: If you do, your base is going to be pissed.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, there's no reason to because the

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Speaker 3: public still supports it. One of them and you know,

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Speaker 3: Blake and I have talked about this before on the show.

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Speaker 3: Masks it was a big deal. They were toxic at

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Speaker 3: that point, and when you look at how people were

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Speaker 3: getting docks in the first place, it really wasn't required

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Speaker 3: to keep these masks on. Either way, it didn't matter.

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Speaker 3: We lost the public debates so badly there was no

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Speaker 3: coming back from it. We had to get rid of

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Speaker 3: the masks. Second is that they did not view ICE

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Speaker 3: as professional as like the FBI, even the DA for

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Speaker 3: that matter, and they wanted the FBI to come in

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Speaker 3: and have control over the resting environment of this way,

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Speaker 3: we didn't have these incidents that we kept having, which

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Speaker 3: ultimately blew up into shootings right later. And that's right.

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Speaker 3: And the third thing was a confusion over what constitutes

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Speaker 3: these crimes, because we were talking to and this wasn't

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00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: quite core based MAGA, but you know Trump coalition voters saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, we're not sure what constitutes a crime that

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00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: will end you up on this list. And while we

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00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: do support mass deportations, we would rather see the really

844
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Speaker 3: bad people go. And they weren't even saying that the

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Speaker 3: Trump administration wasn't doing it. And what they were saying

846
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: was that there was just no information available. You have

847
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Speaker 3: MSNBC constantly running stories about how this one didn't pay

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Speaker 3: a parking ticket, so they ripped the baby out of

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Speaker 3: her hand and threw her into a cage and sent

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Speaker 3: her on her way. They wanted this laid out like, no,

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Speaker 3: this is what we do, this is what you know,

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00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: this is the priority list of crimes. Those three things

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00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: simply alone, Andrew would have gone a very long way

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Speaker 3: in avoiding what essentially was a political catastrophe. And it

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00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: ended up that way because by the time we were done,

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00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: this was a long term project. By the time we

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00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: were done, ICE was less popular than the FBI. There

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Speaker 3: were more people who wanted to abolish ICE than who

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Speaker 3: wanted to abolish the FBI. And it was stunning to me.

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Speaker 3: Nobody listened, nobody wanted to hear it, because it dawned

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Speaker 3: on me. The donors don't care. The donors want amnesty,

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Speaker 3: so they don't care if ICE gets defunded. That's the truth,

863
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: and that is the hard, terrible truth. And meanwhile, we

864
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: have an FBI who waged two coups andrew against the

865
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 3: sitting president and they were more popular than ICE.

866
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so go through your points again. What you

867
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: found when you actually pulled this issue was got to

868
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 2: get rid of the masks, the mask optically toxic. Listen,

869
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: we all want our ICE agents to be safe. We

870
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: don't want them to be targeted, but they optically target toxic. Okay,

871
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: it was true. Second point, it was used the FBI

872
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: on the arresting and enforcement aspect of these rates. So

873
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 2: if you get in the way, yes, and impede ice

874
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: agents doing their job. The FBI would come in and

875
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: be the enforcement mechanism, and then three clearly define what

876
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: constitutes crimes that would land you in jail in prison. Okay,

877
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 2: but I think that's really really clear. Rich. I want

878
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: to zero in on something here because I think it's

879
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: really important, and that is the donor element that we

880
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: know that big ag, we know, the big hospitality. We

881
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 2: know these are the industries that tend to often donate

882
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: to Republican causes campaigns, and they're the most hungry for

883
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: cheap labor. It's very frustrating. And then I noticed something

884
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: when I was looking at this Dignidad Act, the production

885
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: value of it. I'm going to play this clipping and

886
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 2: we're going to tie these two pieces together. SOT sixteen.

887
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: What does the word dignity mean to you? To me,

888
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: it means not having to live in the shadows.

889
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 11: It means being proud to contribute to the economy and

890
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 11: be respected for it. That's what ten million illegal immigrants deserve.

891
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 11: Let them work to legally and generate over one hundred

892
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 11: billion dollars in revenue for a treasury, no path to citizenship,

893
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 11: no right to vote in our elections and no access

894
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 11: to federal programs. It's called the Dignity Act, where they

895
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 11: can work and live without fear.

896
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: Is the right thing to do? Is the Christian thing

897
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: to do? Is the American thing to do. So let's

898
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: join the Christian thing to do.

899
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you love the Bible, don't you. You have to

900
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: get rid of your country the Bible.

901
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: Saying that I got super triggered what I watched that

902
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: the first time with that line too.

903
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 4: It's the Christian thing to do. It's the American thing

904
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: to do.

905
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: So no, okay, enforcing your laws and looking out for

906
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: the people of this country is actually our Christian duty

907
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: to our fellow citizens. That's the first responsibility of this country.

908
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: But you notice the production value there, the music and

909
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: the like multi angles and the sharp lighting. There's money

910
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: behind this stuff, and it's crazy that we take our

911
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: eye off the ball for one second and we're focused

912
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: on a seat, fire and iron or whatever. Instantly they've

913
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: got these things in the hopper and you're getting pushed

914
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: out when you're doing polling rich to reveal that, hey, actually,

915
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: mass deportations is still popular. We just have to change

916
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: some messaging things we lost on the mass things. We

917
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: got to like change the way we enforce it at

918
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: some clarity. And meanwhile, so I we gotta fit. I

919
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: know that you can't tell us, but I have some

920
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 2: guests guesses of who you might have been working with.

921
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: And again I go back to big ag and I

922
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: go back to big hospitality. Yeah you got that. Yeah, okay,

923
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 2: so I figured as much. So I know you can't

924
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: tell us because of your non disclosures and all this

925
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 2: stuff for rich, but but like what the vibe in

926
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: that room. So you're in a room with a big

927
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: money guy that's wanting to get an answer, wants to

928
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: engineer an answer from your polling, what tell us like

929
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: it give us the reality of this donor class and

930
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: how hungry they are for this cheap labor.

931
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: It was a constant fight. You know, if you go

932
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 3: to a doctor, I don't care how much money you have.

933
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: If you go to a doctor and there's something seriously

934
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: wrong with you, I mean it's a serious issue. Are

935
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: you going to second guess everything the doctor tells you?

936
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: Or are you going to let the doctor do his

937
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 3: job and be professional and get the best outcome or

938
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 3: the right outcome for you. That's not how it works

939
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: in my industry. It's constant fighting with the wording of

940
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: the question, which you know, as upholster with integrity is

941
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 3: a leading question. It's constantly how are the graphic's going

942
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: to be presented to the president? Can we possibly? Let

943
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: me give you an example, Andrew, if you say, do

944
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: you support this? And the Trump base says no, and

945
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: then you give them a bunch of riders in a

946
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: series of questions to try to get them to sign on,

947
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: Well what about if it doesn't include anybody who came

948
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: over during the Biden era, which is a deal breaker

949
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: by the way, and then you get a few more

950
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: people on board. It's constantly well, can't we just combine

951
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: those two together and say that that's the total to

952
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 3: give to the president. Well, no, we can't, because that

953
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: that total includes specific riders that were also pulled because

954
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: initially they told you know, this is the kind of

955
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: stuff I'm talking about. So it's the President's very visual

956
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: when you give him something a product like that. He

957
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 3: wants to see the numbers. He wants to see the

958
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 3: red right because the Republicans are read. He wants to

959
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: see which one's what, and that's it. He doesn't want

960
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: to dive down and look and see that it takes

961
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 3: three four, five specific proposals, different language assigned to it,

962
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 3: and how you sell it. They don't want to deliver

963
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 3: that to him. They want to mash it all together

964
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: and present to the president as you know what, this

965
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: only leaves like ten percent of your base and that's nothing. Well,

966
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: first of all, ten percent is the end of you

967
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: as a coalition. It's not nothing. Secondly, you can't do that.

968
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: It's dishonest, but is a lot of money behind it, Andrew,

969
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: and you want to get hired again. So there are

970
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 3: very few people who are like me who will spend

971
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: Christmas Eve screaming about how the product looks, you know,

972
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: or by the way which carried all through the New

973
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 3: Year's celebrations, this was a long term thing. Very very

974
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 3: very few pollsters we'll push back. They'll just say, let's

975
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 3: get them what he wants. I understand. There's the wink,

976
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: there's the nod. I want the money.

977
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: That's so infuriating, and it is on our side, yeah, exactly,

978
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: and the grift is real. And so I just want

979
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: everybody to be very cautious when you see poles that

980
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 2: seem too good to be true because they probably are false. Okay,

981
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, so this reminds me of the one hundred

982
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 2: percent of MAGA supports this.

983
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 4: Like I mean, speaking to another friend of mine who

984
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: works adjacent to poll In, and he talked about the

985
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 4: fact just sort of the way you can use poles

986
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 4: to set things up, and he told me, we commission

987
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: poles and I know not what ninety percent of them

988
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 4: are going to say before the results even come out,

989
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 4: but it's that you just you create these poles so

990
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 4: that you can convince people to do what they already

991
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: want to do, or convince them to do what you

992
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 4: know you want them to do. You can just set

993
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 4: everything up. So it's there's some poles that provide information,

994
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 4: but there's arguably a lot more polls that are just

995
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: used to manipulate.

996
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: And you know was given If he was given the

997
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: right information, we would get better policies. And that's why

998
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: it's so critical that we and you rich expose how

999
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: this grift game works. All right, I want to pivot

1000
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 2: just really quick, Okay, if you have a final thought

1001
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: on that. That'side I just.

1002
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: Was going to say, you know what drives me nuts

1003
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: about this was this idea like, well, let's not burden

1004
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: the president with the minutia, the specifics, the caveat the nuances.

1005
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: Are you saying the president's a stupid man. He's a

1006
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 3: smart guy. Give me ten minutes to explain this to

1007
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: him correctly.

1008
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 6: It was.

1009
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: So it's it's insulting, and we all know what it is.

1010
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep We're gonna keep saying mass deportations because

1011
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: guess what, that's what the people want. It is, this

1012
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: is America. What the people want, the people get. Just

1013
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: sell it differently. You got to have a messaging, you know,

1014
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: strategy that helps move it along. I mean, this is

1015
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: what Bovino was saying. He saying, look look at what

1016
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: we did in Louisiana, in New Orleans, look at what

1017
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: we did even in la Look what we did in

1018
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: all these places where we had the messaging out front.

1019
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: We had a strategy, they executed the strategy. Everything went

1020
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: to crap. In Minneapolis, we get it. I mean that

1021
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: that was a title wave in a political disaster. But

1022
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that we don't want mass deportations. Still,

1023
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: you just have to do it in a way that

1024
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: you know, we want commas, not drama. We don't want

1025
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 2: the drama, keep the ice agents off the headlines, but

1026
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: we want master deportations go ahead.

1027
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 4: But I wonder thirty seconds, but would it be a

1028
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: workable approach if you said if you went around saying, oh,

1029
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 4: we're getting the worst of the worst, and then you

1030
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: just started targeting business after business that's employing people illegally,

1031
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 4: because I think there's a lot of more sympathy when

1032
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 4: you go after, oh, this business was employing all illegal

1033
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: workers and you go smear the business owner instead of

1034
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: twenty seconds, Rich, Well.

1035
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: I just want to say, I can't believe in twenty

1036
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: seconds left and we got to that because that was

1037
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: another big sticking point. They had no sympathies for big

1038
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: business yet guess who were the big donors. So of

1039
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 3: course we couldn't bring that up either. That's another I

1040
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you said that, Blake, because that was

1041
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 3: a fight that me and one other polster had with

1042
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 3: everybody else, like this is the obvious path to take.

1043
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: Hello, yeah, crazy Rich Barris, thanks for ticking us off here.

1044
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: Before we leave here, listen, if faith and values are

1045
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,279
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1046
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: you date. It's that simple, not something you figure out

1047
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Speaker 2: later when you're like three four months down the road

1048
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Speaker 2: in a relationship. You see, most dating apps are built

1049
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,279
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1050
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: that's just not what many of you are looking for.

1051
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 2: Thank goodness, That's why I like Upward. It's a dating

1052
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 2: app designed around faith and shared values. People who care

1053
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Speaker 2: about commitment, integrity, marriage and family, the things that we

1054
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Speaker 2: really value on this show. You're starting from common ground

1055
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1056
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1057
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1058
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Speaker 2: how you were raised and how you see the world.

1059
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1060
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1061
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1062
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1064
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Speaker 2: now to the show is our dear friend Libby Emmons.

1065
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: She's the editor in chief of the Post Millennial and

1066
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: Human Events. We've got lots to go over with Libby.

1067
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, Libby, I hope you're doing well.

1068
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 12: Yeah, you too. Nice to see you, guys.

1069
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: It's great to see you. So I saw this clip

1070
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: out of Virginia. So Abigail span Berger. She's been governor

1071
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: of Virginia for about twelve weeks now, and apparently her

1072
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: poll numbers are slumping. And she got asked about this

1073
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: and it was just too delicious. We had to play

1074
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 2: at st six.

1075
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 5: There was a pull up that had your numbers a

1076
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 5: little unfavorable on your numbers?

1077
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 3: What do you attribute that to you?

1078
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 10: I would say, if everybody hated me, why is everybody

1079
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 10: putting my face.

1080
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: On their mailers for the referendum?

1081
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 6: Would be question number one.

1082
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: Smirk, awkward, smile, uncomfortable.

1083
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 4: Good, she's a very she's like a skin walker or something.

1084
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 4: You get this thing. She's not. It's not well, don't

1085
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 4: ever he met Virginia. So it creeps me out.

1086
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: Here's the details on the poll. We have another shot

1087
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: here for you, Libby, so we to be fair. She's

1088
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 2: about fifty to fifty, all right, but when you compare

1089
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: it to past governors of Virginia at this state, she's

1090
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: not doing so good. Okay. Top fifteen.

1091
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 13: Glenn Youngkin had great approval ratings. But look at her.

1092
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 13: She's three months in and her approval rating is almost

1093
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 13: as what it is for disapproval. About fifty percent like her,

1094
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 13: in fifty percent don't like her. But if you compare

1095
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 13: that to approval ratings for past governors, nobody else was

1096
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 13: where she was at this point in their candidacy or

1097
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 13: in their governorship. And so she was asked about this

1098
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 13: yesterday and she defended it.

1099
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: So she's not doing well because she ran as a

1100
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: moderate and she's gone full commie over in Virginia. Your take,

1101
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 2: Libya Evans.

1102
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, she sure has.

1103
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 10: This is something I've talked to some of our staffers

1104
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 10: at the Post Millennial who live in Virginia about this,

1105
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 10: and they say that they are so sick of all

1106
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 10: of this jerrymandering stuff.

1107
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 12: That she had previously said that she.

1108
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 10: Would not back jerrymandering in the state of Virginia and

1109
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 10: now she's going full force on that.

1110
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 12: They're also telling me that there have been a number of.

1111
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 10: Illegal immigrant murders in the state just since she's taken office.

1112
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 10: We saw an absolutely brutal murder in Fairfax, Virginia of

1113
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 10: a mom who was just at a bus stop and

1114
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 10: this psychopathic illegal immigrant came off the bus and stabbed

1115
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 10: her to death.

1116
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 12: Absolutely horrifying.

1117
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 10: And these are people who have no business in the country,

1118
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 10: and in many cases are people who have a criminal

1119
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 10: record in the state and should not be in the state.

1120
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 10: They should not be in the country, and they certainly

1121
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 10: shouldn't be going around stabbing women.

1122
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 12: There's also so she's also reversed course on the cooperation.

1123
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 10: Of Virginia police with ICE, So that's an issue as well,

1124
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 10: especially when you consider these illegal immigrant murders. So I

1125
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 10: think people are looking around and they're saying, well, you know,

1126
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 10: we elected this woman who said she was going to

1127
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 10: be a moderate, and instead she is a far left,

1128
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 10: crazy progressive, and we're looking at a fifty to fifty.

1129
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 10: So while Democrats for the most part continue to support her,

1130
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 10: she's not making any inroads with Republicans in the state,

1131
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 10: and that's going to.

1132
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: Be a problem well.

1133
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: And by the way, the mailers that her face is

1134
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: being plastered on, a lot of those are against the

1135
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: redistricting effort that they're leading. So we have to hit that.

1136
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 4: We're hitting this really hard because if you're in Virginia,

1137
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 4: the final vote is next week. Next week Tuesday. I

1138
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 4: believe we get the results Virginia's redistricting. They're trying to

1139
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: take it from a pretty even house six ten to one,

1140
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 4: they're trying to make it ten Democrats one Republican. This

1141
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 4: very easily could decide the House next fall either way.

1142
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 4: Five seats is a ton. This matters a lot. And

1143
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 4: I know we lost that. Virginia's race wasn't super close

1144
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 4: last fall, but the polling shows this is very close.

1145
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 4: There have only been three polls on it. One is

1146
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 4: yes up by eight, one is no up by eight,

1147
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 4: one is yes up by five. So right there. Not

1148
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 4: only that, if you get into the cross tabs, the

1149
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 4: highest propensity voters are actually the most skeptical about it.

1150
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 4: The ones who have already voted are the most likely

1151
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 4: to say no, I don't support this, and we are

1152
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 4: seeing evidence of higher turnout in the Republican parts of

1153
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 4: the state. So this is a dead heat. As we

1154
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 4: like to say, if you haven't voted yet, yeah, go

1155
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 4: vote right now. I don't know why you didn't listen

1156
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 4: the last two times we told you to do that,

1157
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 4: But do it now. And I think the last day

1158
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 4: is probably this Saturday. If you don't do it by,

1159
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 4: then make sure you vote Tuesday.

1160
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: This matters exactly. And this is a state that Kamala

1161
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: took by six points, so this is a pretty close state, right,

1162
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: And so they had six five maps they're going to

1163
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: try and go to ten one maps. A total total disaster,

1164
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: by the way, and it does have national implications. And

1165
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: what's also infuriating about this You said this, Libby, that

1166
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: she ran against doing this. Now she's all in favor

1167
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: because they lie. And secondly, before this they had a

1168
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: plus maps. They were rated a plus for being fair

1169
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: okay to the voting electorate. So I mean it's a

1170
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: bastardization of the sort of special election process which I

1171
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: think is getting litigated.

1172
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, the vote is going forward. So vote, vote, vote,

1173
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 4: vote vote.

1174
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: Libby.

1175
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 4: You also used to live in the city of New York.

1176
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 4: You have a special place in your heart for the

1177
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: City of New York. I think it's safe to say.

1178
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 4: And Mom Donnie is getting a dismal report card, new

1179
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 4: report out from the New York Post. Mom Donnie gets

1180
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 4: dismal report card from New Yorkers after less than one

1181
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 4: hundred days in office.

1182
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 2: What are you hearing?

1183
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, so I was looking at this poll as well.

1184
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 10: He's got a forty eight percent approval rating, which is

1185
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 10: substantially lower than Eric Adams, previous mayor's sixty one percent.

1186
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 10: At this point in his term, it's more on part

1187
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 10: with Bill Deblasio's approval rating, and he was one of

1188
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 10: the worst mayors the city has ever seen ever in the.

1189
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 12: History of the city, and that's really saying something.

1190
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 10: He's got a thirty percent disapproval rating Mom Donnie has

1191
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 10: and as he's had his one hundred days in office,

1192
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 10: it's been pretty the far leftism has been really pretty rampant,

1193
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 10: and also he's been breaking some campaign promises. He's already

1194
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 10: walking back the free buses things because it turns out,

1195
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 10: Gollie Gee, it's not that affordable. Who would have known that.

1196
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 12: I don't know.

1197
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 10: Perhaps the entire city knew that and they elected him

1198
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 10: for it. Anyway, they got on board, so he's trying

1199
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 10: to walk that back. He's also proposing some plans based

1200
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 10: on some equity reporting that went into was conducted after

1201
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 10: George Floyd. This was put into place twenty twenty two

1202
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 10: by the city Council. Alets get on board with some

1203
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 10: of this BLM equity stuff and he's noticed that there

1204
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 10: are racial disparities in terms of income and various other

1205
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 10: things housing in the city, and he's decided that this

1206
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 10: is all based on prejudice and racism, not choices that

1207
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 10: people make.

1208
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 12: So that's something that people are looking at. Now he's complaining.

1209
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 10: That white households earn something like two hundred thousand, average

1210
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 10: black households around twenty thousand, and he's claiming that this

1211
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 10: is all racism. And this is a study where everybody,

1212
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 10: all forty five agencies of the city had to look

1213
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 10: at practices and policies through the lens of critical race theory.

1214
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 10: The idea was, go look for racism, and if you're

1215
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 10: going to put on glasses that are covered with racism, that's.

1216
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 12: All you're going to find.

1217
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: Well, and if you think that the wealth disparity in

1218
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: New York City is caused by racism, I don't know

1219
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: what to do for you. I don't know how to

1220
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: help you.

1221
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 4: But the national, the entire basic purpose of New York

1222
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 4: City at this point might as well be to reallocate

1223
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 4: money in order to solve disparity.

1224
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and remember his campaign promise was to tax

1225
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: white neighborhoods. Yes, to, you know, essentially loot the wealth

1226
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: of white New Yorkers give it to black and brown

1227
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: New Yorkers. Here's the clips Nott seventeen.

1228
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 14: The inequities in this city. The racial inequities are stark.

1229
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 14: The wealth of a median white household in the city

1230
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 14: is more than two hundred thousand dollars, while that of

1231
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 14: a black household is less than twenty thousand dollars. We

1232
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 14: are reckoning with the long history of racism here and

1233
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 14: starting to act upon a framework that puts equity right

1234
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 14: at the center of it.

1235
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 4: Sandy, right right behind the mayor in that clip, by

1236
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 4: the way, is city Council and Yusef Salaam. He is

1237
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 4: one of the Central Park five. He participated in a

1238
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 4: gang rape of the Central Park jogger, and that was

1239
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 4: a giant crusade to let him off basically allegedly. Okay,

1240
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying he did it well allegedly, so yeah.

1241
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 10: The allegedly and then media gets on board and paints

1242
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 10: all these beautiful paintings of him, and now there he

1243
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 10: is in city council.

1244
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1245
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 10: I looked at this and, as you know, a white

1246
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 10: person who lived in New York City, who definitely did

1247
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 10: not make the kind of income that he's looking for,

1248
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 10: but would have probably been taxed at a higher rate anyway,

1249
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 10: you know, just because of where I lived or whatever.

1250
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 10: It's really surprising to see how many people are actually

1251
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 10: on board with this, where you also have Black New

1252
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 10: Yorkers who are homeowners who are railing against this, saying,

1253
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 10: you know, we don't need to be taxed more just

1254
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 10: because we have the good fortune to own a home.

1255
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 12: We're trying to do this crazy thing.

1256
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 10: Called building generational wealth for our families, for our children,

1257
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 10: for our communities.

1258
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 12: That's important.

1259
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 10: And you have mom Donnie continuing to try to extort

1260
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 10: Albany for more tax revenue and more of all this

1261
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 10: stuff because he wants to implement more and more crazy

1262
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 10: programs that are based on equity, not opportunity. And one

1263
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 10: of the greatest things about New York City is just

1264
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 10: the amount of opportunity that is available. There are a

1265
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 10: lot of really good public schools, you know, and if

1266
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 10: you work really hard, if you tell your kids to

1267
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 10: work really hard, they can get into those schools and

1268
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 10: they can make a great name for themselves. They can

1269
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 10: make a future. There's no Bell Prize winners that come

1270
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 10: out of these New York City schools. And so when

1271
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 10: you look at the way that mom Donnie is treating

1272
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 10: the city.

1273
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 12: He wants to slash everybody off.

1274
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 10: At the knees who's doing well and give those you know,

1275
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 10: give those legs to somebody else so that they can

1276
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 10: climb higher. But these are people who living in one

1277
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 10: of the cities that has greatest opportunity in the world,

1278
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 10: have been unable to build on those opportunities.

1279
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 12: And that's really just a shame. And I think it's

1280
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 12: going to be a shame for the children of that city.

1281
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: Well, surprise, surprise, we have two examples of far left

1282
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 2: governance that are not It's not popular because it doesn't work.

1283
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: All right, Blake, You've got a story on the Pope

1284
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: that everybody's talking about. Jade Vance is getting asked about it.

1285
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's just interesting. I'm not entirely sure how

1286
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 4: to react to it. This is a reporting from the

1287
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 4: Free Press that's Barry Weiss's outfit that supposedly the Pentagon,

1288
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 4: supposedly the Pentagon of one of our officials there, Elbert Colby,

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Speaker 4: summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, who's the Vatican's ambassador to the

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Speaker 4: United States for a meeting in January, and this is

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Speaker 4: in the wording of the Free Press that he told

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Speaker 4: that he told this cardinal that the United States has

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Speaker 4: the military power to do quote whatever it wants, and

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Speaker 4: that the Pope American pop leo had quote better take

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Speaker 4: its side. And supposedly in this confrontation, the US went

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Speaker 4: so far as to invoke the Avignon papacy. And that

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Speaker 4: raises my eyebrow. That sounds a little unlikely to me,

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Speaker 4: to be frank for the ninety nine percent of you

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Speaker 4: who have no idea what that's a reference to. In

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Speaker 4: the thirteen hundreds, the King of France forcibly relocated the

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Speaker 4: pope to a town in France called Avignon, and that's

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Speaker 4: where the pope was instead of Rome for a little

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Speaker 4: under one hundred years. And for a period there were

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Speaker 4: even two popes. There was a Pope and Avion and

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Speaker 4: a pope in Rome. Very complicated business, it was very

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Speaker 4: important seven hundred years ago. It all sounds very unlikely

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Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, so It's spokesman for the Department of Defense

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Speaker 2: told Newsweek that the Free Presses characterization of the meeting

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Speaker 2: was highly exaggerated and distorted. The meeting between Pentagon and

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Speaker 2: Vatican officials was a respectful and reasonable discussion, the spokesman said.

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Speaker 2: We have nothing but the highest regard and welcome continued

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Speaker 2: dialogue with the Holy See.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now we should be frank. There has been a

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Speaker 4: lot of friction between the new papacy and the admin.

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Speaker 4: I'll be frank. I think the Pope has been a

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Speaker 4: little annoying with his rhetoric on migration and immigration stuff

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Speaker 4: like that. It bothers me because I just I don't

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Speaker 4: think it really is in line with traditional Christian views

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Speaker 4: on things like that, and it's annoying. You used to

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Speaker 4: have the Pope would say things that are annoying and

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Speaker 4: you go, oh, well, he said it in Italian and

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Speaker 4: it's getting translated weird. Now we have this pope from

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Speaker 4: Chicago and he just says stuff and it sounds like

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Speaker 4: a lib commentator on MS now, and you're just it's

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Speaker 4: frustrating and annoying. That said, so, don't think you want

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Speaker 4: to be picking fights with the Vatican. They are institution

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Speaker 4: with a long legacy, a lot of moral legitimacy. We

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Speaker 4: don't need to spar with them either. We can respectfully

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Speaker 4: disagree with them. That's what I hope anyway.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think that it's I think it's

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Speaker 10: been interesting to see the pope.

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Speaker 12: This is the first American pope.

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Speaker 10: I'm Catholic, So full disclosure, there fun fact about the

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Speaker 10: Avignon Papacy.

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Speaker 12: I believe that that's where we got.

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Speaker 10: The wine, the shadow noof depop that came from the

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Speaker 10: Avignon fantasy.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, I've been.

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Speaker 10: Following Leo on X coming out all of the time

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Speaker 10: speaking against war, speaking in favor of being nice to migrants,

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Speaker 10: and into a certain regard.

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Speaker 12: I really respect what he's doing.

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Speaker 10: He's saying no war, that's really a pretty Catholic perspective

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Speaker 10: at this point. No war, be nice to migrants, that's

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Speaker 10: you know, of course we should be kind to these people.

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Speaker 10: And this is of course not the first time that

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Speaker 10: a religious leader like the Pope, a religious Catholic leader,

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Speaker 10: has come into conflict with the big military powers of

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Speaker 10: the world. It kind of speaks to a certain sense

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Speaker 10: of balance and it makes sense. I mean, the papacy

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Speaker 10: is not here to back the American government.

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Speaker 12: That's not what it's for.

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Speaker 10: It's opposed to guide Catholics in their view. So that's

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Speaker 10: I think that's what matters here, is the speaking to

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Speaker 10: Catholics about how they should behave. Should Catholics be in

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Speaker 10: favor of war, Probably not, But that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 10: you don't back your United States compell or high water

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Speaker 10: no matter what. And I'm frankly very comfortable with that,

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Speaker 10: you know, potential contradiction.

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Speaker 12: And the same thing is true with the migration.

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Speaker 10: I think that it makes a lot of sense to

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Speaker 10: be kind to migrants, to be kind to people who

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Speaker 10: are intent on leaving their own nations, but that doesn't

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Speaker 10: mean they have to come to the United States. There

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Speaker 10: is a separation there, certainly, between faith in Jesus Christ

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Speaker 10: and what you think is best for your nation. They're

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Speaker 10: not always going to necessarily be the same thing, right,

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Speaker 10: I mean, I don't think that we should let our

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Speaker 10: nation be overrun because that would certainly get in the

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Speaker 10: way of faith and expressing faith and all of that

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Speaker 10: stuff too. So there has to be a balance. But

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Speaker 10: I think Leo is doing what he thinks is the

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Speaker 10: right thing to do. I think America is doing what

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Speaker 10: America thinks is the right thing to do. And it's

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Speaker 10: okay if those two things are not always aligned. I'm

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Speaker 10: perfectly comfortable with that.

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Speaker 4: There's been a similar story that was unfolding in the

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Speaker 4: past week. There's this push that's been made to frame

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Speaker 4: the Pentagon under Pete Hegseef, who is a Protestant, as

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Speaker 4: actively anti Catholic in some capacity. There was a story

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Speaker 4: that they had a Good Friday service on Good Friday

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Speaker 4: and that they sent out a notice where it said

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Speaker 4: Protestant service, no Catholic Mass. And this was hyped up

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Speaker 4: by a lot of people as them actively.

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Speaker 12: On Good Friday.

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Speaker 4: We do not have a Mass on Good Friday.

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Speaker 6: Just don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the only day of the year. I actually

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Speaker 4: went to a service on Good Friday. You still have

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Speaker 4: the Eucharist because they'll prepared it in advance, but they

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Speaker 4: just a bit. They don't do the whole.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you just said they don't. They don't have a service,

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Speaker 2: but you went to one.

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Speaker 10: We don't have like a specific Good Friday Mass. I

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Speaker 10: mean there's Mass every day. Show your church at like

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Speaker 10: eight in the morning.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna find it.

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Speaker 4: It's important sacrament stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, got it. I listen. I'm a cradle Catholic,

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Speaker 2: but I'm obviously a little rusty on some of the particulars,

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Speaker 2: but I can guarantee you that Pete Heg said has

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Speaker 2: nothing but love for the Catholic Church and Catholic serving

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Speaker 2: in the military. But it's something we actually talked about

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Speaker 2: with Michael Knowles. It does feel like there is some

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Speaker 2: sort of effort to drive a wedge between Catholics and

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Speaker 2: Protestants Evangelical specifically in this country. I don't know where

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Speaker 2: that's coming from exactly, but I don't feel it innately myself.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like there's forces that are trying to

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Speaker 2: drive a wedge about between the Catholics and Protestants, and

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Speaker 2: I I genuinely I don't resonate with it at all.

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Speaker 4: Well, what I would say is Catholics and Evangelicals and

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Speaker 4: different Protestant they have different beliefs about Christianity and we

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Speaker 4: shouldn't ignore those things. I think if you go too

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Speaker 4: far on ecumenism, you miss that. You kind of end

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Speaker 4: up imagining that doctrine isn't important, and that oh it

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Speaker 4: just we're all kind of some of us just like

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Speaker 4: ceremony a bit more than others, and it is more

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Speaker 4: than that that's going on. Getting back to the big picture.

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Speaker 4: I think it's pretty It seems pretty obvious there's going

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Speaker 4: to be friction between this admin and the Pope. The

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Speaker 4: Pope bite bash the president a bit. I would say,

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Speaker 4: in contrast to most world leaders, the president probably shouldn't

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Speaker 4: bash the pope back. He's just it's not a fight

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Speaker 4: that's worth picking. There's a good exchange.

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Speaker 2: I remember.

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Speaker 4: I think there was a tech leader who was making

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Speaker 4: fun of the Pope, and a guy just said, don't.

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Speaker 2: Mock the Pope.

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Speaker 4: Don't mock the Pope. And if they did say something

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Speaker 4: about we have military power, I find it unlikely that

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Speaker 4: this administration did that. But I do remember the supposed

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Speaker 4: line by Joseph Stalin how many divisions does the Pope have?

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Speaker 4: And then the church played a big role in bringing

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Speaker 4: down communism in Eastern Europe.

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Speaker 2: You just well, but I don't. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 2: doctrinal issues don't matter. They certainly can and do sometimes,

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Speaker 2: But in general, we have way more in common than

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Speaker 2: we do that separates us, namely Jesus Christ, Yes is

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Speaker 2: our Lord. So amen, Leby Evans, thank you for joining

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Speaker 2: us the post millennial and human events. Thanks for making

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Speaker 2: the time, Libby, We'll see again soon.

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Speaker 12: Thanks so much, guys.

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Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you

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