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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's Friday,

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Speaker 2: July twenty fourth, twenty twenty six, and we are at

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Speaker 2: the y Refi studios, both remote and in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 3: You keep carrying a mobile Yrefic studio, but I feel

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Speaker 2: Don't want to bicker with you today. It's Friday. I'm

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Speaker 2: start off today's show with a bang. If you saw

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Speaker 2: somebody that I've been following for a while. She's a

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Speaker 2: Confessions of a Democrat Operative. Evan, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have you. I kind of wait to

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Speaker 4: I welcome, welcome, Yeah, long time to see. I think

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Speaker 4: I saw you at a turn I know, right.

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Speaker 2: I have. I was gonna say I've met you in

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Speaker 2: the show. This was something that we planned to do

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Speaker 2: You have this new book and it's Confessions. It's nothing left,

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Speaker 2: Confessions of a Democrat Operative. You raised over fifty million

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my world forever change that day. You know, I

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Speaker 6: Where I was expected to espouse my privilege to people

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Speaker 2: I'm reading a Wall Street Journal review of your book,

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Speaker 2: But you know, I did bring up the race issue.

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Speaker 2: There was one of the donors had a voicemail message

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Speaker 2: to you. Still, another an heiress to an oil fortune,

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Speaker 9: People being arrested twenty times, thirty times, forty times, fifty

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Speaker 2: North Carolina. Welcome to the show, sir. Good to have you,

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Speaker 2: Great to be on with you.

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Speaker 9: It's great to be back on the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, absolutely, it's great to have you. You are running

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Speaker 2: What do North Carolinians need to know about mister Cooper,

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Speaker 9: I'm glad you asked. You know, when you think about

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Speaker 9: Roy Cooper, on the other hand, he's fighting for criminals.

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Speaker 9: You know, fifty one of them had committed had been

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Speaker 9: It's the most dangerous, reckless, and stupid decision ever made

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but sure, let's give him more power. Let's just

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Speaker 2: Roy Cooper is just a white guilt, weak minded Democrat

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Speaker 9: We're a purple state. You know, We're thirty percent Republican,

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Speaker 9: and I think that that's really important to know. And

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Speaker 2: And we can talk.

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Speaker 9: About economic issues, we can talk about crime issues, you know,

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Speaker 9: we can talk about illegal immigration. You know, this is

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Speaker 9: he has a track record that he's done everything he

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Speaker 9: can to run away from.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 9: I always like to point out that candidate Cooper really

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Speaker 9: doesn't like Governor Cooper and all the things that he did.

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Speaker 9: When he's trying to talk about being a moderate right now,

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Speaker 9: you know, he's just an absolute wrong fit for people

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Speaker 9: in North Carolina. He'd be better off running in California,

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Speaker 9: New York, or Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's what's interesting about North Carolin because you

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Speaker 2: do you I think you're right. I think the vast

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Speaker 2: majority of North Carolinians hate crazy. But then you have

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Speaker 2: these pockets, these blue pockets around all those universities where

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Speaker 2: the most radical ideas are festering, are taking root, and

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Speaker 2: you get these radical activists in your state. That skews

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Speaker 2: some of this statewide politics. As you mentioned, the governor

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Speaker 2: is supporting California politics in the south, which which should

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Speaker 2: have been a non starter when you talk to average

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Speaker 2: North Carolinians are what are their concerns? What do they

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Speaker 2: want you to focus on? Crime has to be huge,

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Speaker 2: but what else?

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Speaker 9: Well, there's the economy, you know, And the fact is

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Speaker 9: that over his forty year career, you know, career politician

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Speaker 9: Roy Cooper, he consistently fought and made things more expensive.

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Speaker 9: You know, so housing prices up eighty five percent while

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Speaker 9: he was the governor, healthcare cost healthcare premiums up one

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Speaker 9: hundred and eighty three percent while he was the governor. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 9: he's taking you know, four hundred thousand dollars from healthcare

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Speaker 9: companies and executives, you know for his campaign here CosIng

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Speaker 9: up and saying he's going to get tough on him.

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Speaker 9: You know, rather ridiculous what he's looking at there. But

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Speaker 9: the fact is You're right that Charlotte, that Raleigh, that Durham.

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Speaker 9: You know, these are deep blue cities where we do

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Speaker 9: have a very aggressive, you know, radical Democratic base that

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Speaker 9: is pointing it out. But the Democratic Party itself has

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Speaker 9: lost over three hundred and fifty thousand registered voters over

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Speaker 9: the last ten years because people are walking away from

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Speaker 9: that party and the fact is that they know that

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Speaker 9: that's not the party that they grew up with and

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Speaker 9: that's not a party that they can support any more.

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Speaker 9: You think about Roy Cooper vetoing the Parents' Bill of Rights?

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Speaker 9: Who vetos the Parents' Bill of Rights? You know, he

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Speaker 9: vetoed legislation that would have prevented transgender mutilation surgeries. This

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Speaker 9: is a guy who voted, you know, fought for putting

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Speaker 9: boys and girls sports and men and women's locker rooms.

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Speaker 9: You know, these are radical positions, way out of step

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Speaker 9: with North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Well, Michael Wattley, you are running a very strong race,

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Speaker 2: and I think you're getting stronger. And it's all about turnout.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be all about turnout. You got to

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Speaker 2: get these low propensity voters. You got to harass them,

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Speaker 2: call them, get their ballots in the box. If folks,

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Speaker 2: if you want to get involved, go to Michael Wattley

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Speaker 2: dot com. That's his campaign site pitching some money. This

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Speaker 2: is a candidate, Michael Wattley who's thank you for joining us. Sir,

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Speaker 2: you are getting stronger and your message is getting like

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Speaker 2: more potent. I can see it happening. I think you

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Speaker 2: have a great shot here in North Carolina. I think

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Speaker 2: that we need to hold Tom tell Us his seat

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Speaker 2: and need to get rid of Tom tell Us, Thank goodness,

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Speaker 2: he's retiring, and we need to replace that seat with

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Speaker 2: a strong conservative, approven conservative that is you, Michael Wattley.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining the show. And again, please Michael

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Speaker 2: Wattley dot com. Support this man, get him to the

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Speaker 2: US Senate. We need him to keep the majority. God blessed.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: Well, Thank you very much. And when we win this race,

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Speaker 9: we are going to have a conservative champion and an

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Speaker 9: ally for President Trump and the Senate from North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Amen, godspeed, sir. Hi folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like

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Speaker 2: tell them your friend Andrews sent you. Blake, I want

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Speaker 2: to talk about Shiloh and if you don't know the

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Speaker 2: name Shiloh and why it's in the news, Blake is

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Speaker 2: about to explain it to you.

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Speaker 3: Alrighty, well, this is you might It might stir something

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Speaker 3: in your like the deep recesses of your brain as

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Speaker 3: I described.

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Speaker 5: This to you. So this is this is a story.

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Speaker 3: We used to see a ton of first Trump year,

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Speaker 3: the first peak woke era, and this is one of.

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Speaker 5: It shows how things have changed. So Shiloh Hendrix is

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Speaker 5: a woman.

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Speaker 3: She's thirty seven in Minnesota and she was the subject

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Speaker 3: of a viral video last year where basically she was

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Speaker 3: I believe, at a playground kind of in a public

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Speaker 3: spot and this Somali child a about nine years old

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Speaker 3: who had an ankle monitor because they had a habit

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Speaker 3: of wandering away. I guess they're pair. Parents couldn't take

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Speaker 3: great care of them, and this child was like bothering

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Speaker 3: her bothering.

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Speaker 5: Her kid, and let's be frank, it was not her

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Speaker 5: best moment.

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Speaker 3: She got angry at the kids, she said something nasty

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Speaker 3: to them, and then the parent of this child starts

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Speaker 3: just taping her tapes or gets a camera in her

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Speaker 3: face and is like, you said a slur, Say it again,

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Speaker 3: Say it again, say it again, and she basically gets

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Speaker 3: exasperated and she says a slur on the video.

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Speaker 5: That's not good. Shouldn't do that. But what is egregious is.

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Speaker 3: She then got charged with disorderly conduct and they have

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Speaker 3: spent the past year in Minnesota prosecuting this woman, and

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Speaker 3: yesterday she was convicted of this. She was convicted because

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Speaker 3: she said a bad word on a video to someone

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Speaker 3: who was in her face demanding that she say something bad.

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Speaker 3: And she was just fined one thousand dollars. She was

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Speaker 3: given a staid ninety day jail sentence, and she has

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Speaker 3: to do two hundred hours of community service. So not

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Speaker 3: the worst miscarriage of justice ever. But are reacting to this,

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Speaker 3: and we should react to it because, uh, let's be real,

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Speaker 3: this is Minnesota, so we already they have infinite Somali fraud.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of crimes that go down in Minnesota

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Speaker 3: that they're basically ignoring.

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Speaker 5: And on top of that, no one would ever.

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Speaker 3: Be prosecuted for, let's be frank, calling a white person

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Speaker 3: a racial slur on a camera. That's called riding on

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Speaker 3: a subway. A lot you're going to encounter that. This

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Speaker 3: is a woman who was singled out and targeted because

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Speaker 3: she was a white woman who had an unflattering image

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Speaker 3: on camera.

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Speaker 5: I think you'd agree, Andrew, and it doesn't like.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree.

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Speaker 3: You don't get criminally prosecuted, you don't have your First

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Speaker 3: Amendment rights taken away. You're allowed to say mean things

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Speaker 3: to people if they're in your face, if you don't

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Speaker 3: attack them, if you don't like physically, if you don't

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Speaker 3: physically assault them. People argue with each other in public,

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Speaker 3: that's not a crime.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I totally agree on principle. Listen, she

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Speaker 2: ends up raising I think, on a GoFundMe something like

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Speaker 2: nine hundred thousand. Okay, Now she's gonna get two hundred

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Speaker 2: hours of community service and a small fine. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: She probably is going to make out in the positive

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Speaker 2: on this, okay, but I don't care. To Blake's point,

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Speaker 2: it's the principle of the thing. This was not her

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Speaker 2: best moment. We get it. We're not endorsing what she did,

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Speaker 2: but we also can understand it. This nine year old

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Speaker 2: apparently was wearing an ankle monitor. I haven't fact checked this,

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Speaker 2: but I've seen this in a number of the social

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Speaker 2: media posts. This kid, either way, was on the loose,

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Speaker 2: being an absolute I would say, menace to society in

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Speaker 2: this public place, this space, by the way, which is

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Speaker 2: a larger theme that we need to talk about, and

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Speaker 2: we will talk about more, how America's public spaces which

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Speaker 2: are free have been overrun by migrants, by criminals, by

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Speaker 2: people that are transgressive and antisocial. They are no longer safe.

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Speaker 2: So if you think about the latchkey kids, the free

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Speaker 2: range kids of the seventies and eighties and nineties, that

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Speaker 2: world has been evaporated because of little Somali kids like this,

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Speaker 2: who's harassing this woman while she's trying to hang out

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Speaker 2: with her kid at the park, And so the American

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Speaker 2: dream becomes a luxury shot. People like Shiloh can't go

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Speaker 2: to the park anymore because they get harassed by little

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Speaker 2: miscreants like this, this uh, this Somali kid. And then

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Speaker 2: this other guy comes. I guess he's a brown guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was his parent.

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Speaker 3: I made that mistake, was not the dad was testifying

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Speaker 3: at the trial. I mixed that up.

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Speaker 2: I apologize exactly. The kid, the guy who was uh

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Speaker 2: was taping him, was shar make Omar. Apparently, so take

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Speaker 2: take the name as you will. Sharmick Omar starts provoking her.

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Speaker 2: She says a bad word. Oh, well, to your point,

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Speaker 2: since when do we prosecute, you know, people of color

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Speaker 2: calling white people pejoratives and racist racist names? We Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's right, we don't do it.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's worse than that.

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Speaker 3: If you're I don't buy these jurisdictions, like you'll have

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Speaker 3: like anti soul personalities will harass people, get in their face,

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Speaker 3: like deliberately trying to provoke them because if they react

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Speaker 3: in any way, they'll feel justified in like punching them

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Speaker 3: in the face. There was a case I believe this

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Speaker 3: was an Oregon where someone like basically got attacked and

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Speaker 3: then they testified, well, they called me the N word

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Speaker 3: during the attack, and they got acquitted for the assault.

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Speaker 3: For that reason, Like, we will not have our diverse,

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Speaker 3: multicultural society survive if we have two standards of justice,

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Speaker 3: two different expectations.

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Speaker 5: For people in this country. Everyone has the First Amendment

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Speaker 5: right period.

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Speaker 3: You can't make an example out of someone because you're

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Speaker 3: desperate to prosecute someone who's a thirty something white woman

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Speaker 3: a Karen as.

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Speaker 5: They would like to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is just a pure, unadulterated example

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Speaker 2: of anti white discrimination that has been legalized in our

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Speaker 2: judicial system. If this, I think the best point Blake

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Speaker 2: that you made, and it's worth repeating, is that when

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Speaker 2: we go on the subway, we go on public transportation,

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Speaker 2: we go to a park, and we're called a racist slur,

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Speaker 2: we're called a cracker or whatever they want to call it.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't count for anything in this country, and nor

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Speaker 2: should it, by the way, unless it is like an aggression,

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Speaker 2: aggression to like, you know, uh, start a fight or

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Speaker 2: something like that, maybe then you could make an argument.

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Speaker 2: But the point is that's not what she was doing.

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Speaker 2: The guy provoked her, she said the word. Okay, she

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have said it. That is not grounds for stripping

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Speaker 2: this woman of her First Amendment rights and then prosecuting

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Speaker 2: and harassing her for a year. This is the land

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Speaker 2: of George Floyd right here. This is what's happening to Minneapolis. Nice. No,

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Speaker 2: they're getting overrun by foreigners that want to want to

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Speaker 5: Oh well.

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Speaker 5: We have Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: Kelsey, guys, please let me mute yourself and welcome to

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Speaker 7: Yes, so real quick. Before my question, I want to

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Speaker 7: thank you for your election coverage just past Tuesday. I

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Speaker 7: enjoyed it and congratulations on your Arizona wins. So my

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Speaker 7: question for you is, Yeah, So I've been hearing more

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Speaker 7: and more about flock cameras. Simply put, one side claims

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Speaker 7: they're a helpful tool for law enforcement to solve crimes.

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Speaker 7: The other side raises concerns that it's another step towards

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Speaker 7: handing away our freedom of privacy and wondering what the

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Speaker 7: Ck Show thoughts on this are and do the benefits

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Speaker 7: outweigh the infringements.

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Speaker 5: That's a great question.

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Speaker 3: I've heard about this, So flock cameras for those who

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Speaker 3: don't know, I know Tucker's Show did an episode on this.

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Speaker 5: A few others have talked about them. Flock cameras.

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Speaker 3: They're a kind of early iteration of technology we're going

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Speaker 3: to be seeing a lot more now.

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Speaker 5: They're cameras.

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Speaker 3: We've always had cameras, but what flock cameras are is

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Speaker 3: they add this AI.

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Speaker 5: Element to them. Where they build them.

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Speaker 3: And they put them in spots, and they can track

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Speaker 3: where cars are going, and they can log the license

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Speaker 3: played automatically. They can log the make and model of

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Speaker 3: the car. They can log which direction the car is

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Speaker 3: going and send it all to a database. And you

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Speaker 3: can see how this would be pretty useful to law

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Speaker 3: enforcement because basically, like they can have a crime happen

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Speaker 3: and they can be like, oh, there's reports of this

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Speaker 3: of maybe a certain type of car, go to the database,

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Speaker 3: and bam, they don't need to go and manually watch

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Speaker 3: a ton of footage, which used to be that limit

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Speaker 3: on how much security footage you could have is someone

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Speaker 3: would have to go watch it. Now it's like there's

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Speaker 3: an AI robot watching it and they can just collect

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Speaker 3: way more data and use way more data. And the

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Speaker 3: claim for this is it will let them fight crime.

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Speaker 3: Now there's a possible issue here.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it tracks like people whether they're doing stuff or so,

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Speaker 10: like regular traffic cameras like obviously only scan you or

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Speaker 10: take pictures of you when you commit like a crime

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Speaker 10: of some sort, this will scan every car that goes by,

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Speaker 10: no matter what. So the police can literally be like,

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Speaker 10: show me every black f one fifty that's driven past

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Speaker 10: this street in the last day, and it'll show them

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Speaker 10: like a long list of stuff, which I mean I

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Speaker 10: could see down the line, this could get a little

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Speaker 10: scary depending on how they expand it. So that's really

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Speaker 10: the concern is how is this going to be built

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Speaker 10: out from here? But I don't see, Like so this

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Speaker 10: is being implemented. But like shot Spotter and like Chicago

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Speaker 10: was all taken away, Like I feel like that was

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Speaker 10: a much better technology that actually can be used to

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Speaker 10: solve stuff like this. I feel like it's more just

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Speaker 10: worthless spying on people kind of.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's definitely a great tool for law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: So I understand why law enforcement wants it because it

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Speaker 2: could scan the license plates. It can you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: oftentimes what happens in a crime scene is they have

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Speaker 2: to try and close down the egress, right, so they

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Speaker 2: try and block anywhere people can get out. This gives

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Speaker 2: them an added tool to be able to address that. Now,

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Speaker 2: my problem is that it does become a surveillance state,

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Speaker 2: right it in the company behind this flock is already

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Speaker 2: expanding these AI tools, expanding face or recognition, expanding into

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Speaker 2: all kinds of different things. So it becomes a surveillance state.

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Speaker 2: And here's my kind of basic you know, thought on

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Speaker 2: it is like I just don't trust tech companies at all.

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Speaker 2: And you know there are pay you know, there's a

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Speaker 2: cost to freedom and liberty, right, and I think you

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Speaker 2: have to weigh all those things in the balance. My

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Speaker 2: general disposition towards it is I'm very skeptical because tech

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Speaker 2: companies have proven that they don't always put America first. Right.

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Speaker 2: If they're willing to give up their H one b's,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'll be able to be more sympathetic to basically

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Speaker 2: my general disposition.

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Speaker 3: I'll go the other way. I get not trusting tech companies.

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Speaker 3: For me, the best argument against this is government that

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Speaker 3: if it really was we're only going to stop criminals,

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 5: But we've seen, for example, we.

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Speaker 3: Saw the deep state as it were, they you know,

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Speaker 3: the intelligence apparatus of the US colluded, pressured tech companies

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Speaker 3: suppress this New York Post story suppressed the Hunter Biden

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Speaker 3: laptop as an example. And we've seen there was a

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Speaker 3: very sinister thing when January sixth happened, where like a

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Speaker 3: lot of Facebook data ended up getting like leaked out

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Speaker 3: to the press to basically cover the movements of people

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Speaker 3: who were allegedly president at January sixth, and then they

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Speaker 3: were like profiling people and docs in them even before

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Speaker 3: they were actually charged with any crimes. And so where

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Speaker 3: I can feel like this is ominous as it just

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Speaker 3: seems frightening for any government apparatus to have that amount

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Speaker 3: of information about what people are doing and where they

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Speaker 3: are going.

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Speaker 5: And so I just think of an example.

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Speaker 3: Let's say you're having let's say we had a COVID

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Speaker 3: type thing, and when they were saying you shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: assembling for religious services, what if they were just starting

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Speaker 3: to track every car that was going in the direction

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Speaker 3: of where that church was, even if they didn't have

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Speaker 3: people monitoring it. And then at that point, oh, you

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Speaker 3: can track every single person who is a member of

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Speaker 3: this church because you can sense who's going to that

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Speaker 3: church every Sunday. It creates such a way for if

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Speaker 3: you're the FBI and you're deciding, like when they were

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Speaker 3: monitoring Latin Mass as a thing, uh, you suddenly are

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Speaker 3: just building video. So here's everyone we know who's going,

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Speaker 3: who's driving to this church that does the Latin Mass,

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Speaker 3: which we've decided is this extremist threat. It's a little

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Speaker 3: too much information for the government to just be passively

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Speaker 3: collecting at all times. And that creates me out a

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Speaker 3: little bit, and I can definitely understand why that worries people.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's also because you can't tell me that you're

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Speaker 10: trying to solve crime when like in Chicago you get

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Speaker 10: rid of shot Spotter, which like actually helps solve crime,

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Speaker 10: but then you're okay with flock being put in. It's

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Speaker 10: like you you can't really tell me that you're well,

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Speaker 10: a lot of the concerns are crime when you haven't

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Speaker 10: really done the first steps to actually solving the crime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot of them, a lot of

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Speaker 2: go ahead, A lot of liberal cities are not are

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Speaker 2: are taking them out right now. So LAPD suspended, used,

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Speaker 2: Mountain View, California, suspended US used or disabled it, Berkeley, Houston, Cleveland,

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Speaker 2: all right, so they're but but it's.

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Speaker 5: Tough, like Chicago still has. It's tough because in Chicago,

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Speaker 5: for example, but fifty percent of crimes go unsolved, murders

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Speaker 5: go unsolved.

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Speaker 3: So there are people who will die, there are people

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Speaker 3: who will get away with murder because we don't have

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Speaker 3: these And so that's a calculation you need to make,

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Speaker 3: is how much information are you willing to give government

819
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Speaker 3: for the sake of having people not be murdered? And

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Speaker 3: that's I mean, Benjamin Franklin.

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Speaker 2: They've already been abused though, seeing multiple cases of officers

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Speaker 2: using the system to stock ex partners or romantic interests

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Speaker 2: or critics. They've been used to stock pro lifers. So

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know that that's exactly what I was saying,

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Speaker 2: surveillance is going to be used against.

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Speaker 5: I would say, here's here's my proposal. Here's my proposal.

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Speaker 3: First, you bring back shot Spotter, because there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 3: with shot spotter. And then before we decide to have

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Speaker 3: the panopticon to punish all crimes, how about we just

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Speaker 3: actually punish crimes. So, if you're going to have a

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Speaker 3: vagrant on the subway who's terrorizing people, anti social behavior,

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Speaker 3: people doing these petty assaults them they heard to drop.

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Speaker 3: Let's try stopping crime by punishing the crimes that we

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Speaker 3: actually get.

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Speaker 5: And then once we do that.

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Speaker 3: We can say, oh, there's too much crime still, we

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Speaker 3: should have the panopticons.

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Speaker 5: That's a great question. I'm really glad that.

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Speaker 2: Here's my proposal. If you have if you have over

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Speaker 2: a certain number of murders in your community, then it

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Speaker 2: gets mandated, okay. Or if you have a certain number

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Speaker 2: of illegals in your community, how about that everywhere else

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Speaker 2: will be free from the surveillance state. All right, who

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Speaker 2: do we got next?

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Speaker 5: Don I believe right? Don don unmeete yourself and what's

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Speaker 5: your question? Hi, guys?

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Speaker 8: Next taking my call? I started but ten months ago,

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Speaker 8: I started hearing people talking about color revolutions. I've never

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Speaker 8: heard of that before, so I looked into it, and

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Speaker 8: that's that seems to be what's going on. I'm just wondering,

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Speaker 8: what what what?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 8: Your opinion is all right.

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Speaker 5: That was a that was a label Charlie really liked.

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Speaker 5: I think he got it.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know Darren Beattie at Revolver would come on,

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Speaker 3: he would talk about that. So color revolution that comes

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Speaker 3: from if you look at history, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: revolutions in other countries and they love to give a

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Speaker 3: color to them. So they're the Jasmine Revolution or the

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Speaker 3: Orange Revolution.

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Speaker 5: I think was our Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: And it sort of describes these popular uprisings where there's

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Speaker 3: a bunch of people rallying in the square and then

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Speaker 3: stuff happens and the government loses support and then the

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Speaker 3: president has to flee and disgrace or whatever. And what

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Speaker 3: was so cool about is how Darren and I think

868
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Speaker 3: Mike Ben's was also an expert on this, as he'd

869
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: lay it out, is how there's this is not really

870
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: a purely popular activity.

871
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: It's a way of laundering a.

872
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: Political change that often powerful people want to have happened.

873
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 5: So you'll have people in the square.

874
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 3: And does a bunch of people ra in a square

875
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 3: mean that there's a popular mandate to change the government, Well, no,

876
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 3: like you can put twenty thousand people in a square

877
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: as a tiny minority of a country, even if it

878
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: looks really impressive in person. And so as an example,

879
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 3: that Orange Revolution in Ukraine, you have tens of thousands

880
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: of people in Kiev. You say the government's bad, but

881
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: the government's base of support was in the eastern part.

882
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 5: Of the country. They're not in Kiev. But then they're demonstrating.

883
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 5: You have media coverage.

884
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 3: And then if they start maybe they start demonstrating, they

885
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: start pressuring the police. And if the police ever shoot,

886
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 3: you go. The police have fired upon the peaceful protesters.

887
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: This government has lost legitimacy, and you stoke it, you

888
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 3: stoke international condemnation, you stoke NGOs to say this government

889
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: must go, and eventually government falls from power. And now

890
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: I don't think we're in that in the US right now,

891
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: but that is a pretty good characterization of a lot

892
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: of the phenomena that went into the twenty twenty election.

893
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: As an example, where Donald Trump, he was mounting a

894
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 3: legal challenge to how things had gone down in the States,

895
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: and this was presented as an unforgivable offense to overturn democracy,

896
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: and you had law firms would refuse to represent his

897
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 3: legal challenge. And then after j six you had them

898
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 3: shutting down his bank account and they're turfing out parlor

899
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: and all of this, and on top of that the

900
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop. There was just a

901
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: lot of Paris state actors, not the government, not really

902
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: local police. It was just NGOs and the media teaming

903
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: up to say Donald Trump cannot be president anymore.

904
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 5: And that feels a lot like.

905
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: Color I think of, I think of the mostly peaceful

906
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: Floyda pal exactly exactly.

907
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: Everyone's saying, it's almost well, they're burning everything.

908
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it basically it was. So what what what Blake

909
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: is getting at is a lot of this comes from

910
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: the old Soviet Union, right, these uh, these countries would

911
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: get overthrown. You had the Tulip Revolution, the Rose Revolution,

912
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of you know, international actors assumed that

913
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: USAID National Endowment for Democracy, Open Society's Foundation, coordinated with

914
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: NGOs and international press outlets, would cause these regimes to

915
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Speaker 2: fall in order to build up and expand the influence

916
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: of NATO, the EU, that that sort of thing. Those

917
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: same actors that orchestrated that are deeply embedded within the

918
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: NGO structure in the United States and they have absolutely

919
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Speaker 2: used this same formula against President Trump, and I think

920
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: George Floyd is probably the single greatest example that we

921
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 2: have in twenty twenty. But you could also look at

922
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: the anti ICE riots. That's why there's so much money

923
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: and so much coordination on the NGO side, because they

924
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: want to spark at least the optics that there is

925
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Speaker 2: a popular uprising against an unpopular president, and so they

926
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Speaker 2: use wedge issues or they use events that they think

927
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: they can they can then garner a lot of attention

928
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: with right. So we saw that with Renee Good her

929
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Speaker 2: when she was killed basically being a lunatic in a

930
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Speaker 2: car in Minnesota protesting ICE. That's what. We're not happy

931
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 2: that she got killed. We're not happy she got killed.

932
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, there's a reason she was.

933
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Speaker 2: She was killed because she was disobeying police and she

934
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Speaker 2: was being a mania.

935
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Speaker 5: Well no, even just get beyond that.

936
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Speaker 2: That just ended up being used. They tried to use, yeah,

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Speaker 2: go ahead.

938
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Speaker 3: They tried to use Renee Good to just basically say,

939
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Speaker 3: because this one incident happened in one city, we don't

940
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Speaker 3: have we can't have ICE, we can't have deportations, we

941
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: can't have a border anymore. They really tried to stoke that,

942
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Speaker 3: and I think in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty it would

943
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: have worked. We've gotten better at our defenses against these tactics,

944
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 3: so the right was able to say, as you said, Andrew,

945
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 3: it's sad that that woman died, but we actually knew

946
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: to say. This is what they wanted. The Left want

947
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: these people to get out there, put themselves in danger,

948
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 3: cause friction where someone panics or someone makes a mistake

949
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 3: and someone dies, and use that to overturn our laws.

950
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 3: You have to recognize what they're doing and basically.

951
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 10: Call them and twenty they already did.

952
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 5: I mean they were successful. They were successful then, but

953
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 5: this time we we just we wised up.

954
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well here's what Here's what you look for, don

955
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: is you look for an inciting incident, which you had

956
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: Renee Good and Alex Pretty in Minneapolis. They were being

957
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 2: completely engineered and trained to go, you know, cause good

958
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: trouble as the left likes it, likes to call it.

959
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: So they're gonna get in the faces of these ice officers,

960
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: are going to cause uh, some terrible incident to happen,

961
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: somebody loses their life. Then what happens. Then you have

962
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: a ton of money flowing into these NGOs and then

963
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: they do the No Kings rallies right all across the country, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS,

964
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: New York Times, they all cover it wall to wall

965
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: and they make a huge deal about this, whether or

966
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: not there's popular support for it or not, there's enough.

967
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: And this is why when you hear clips like and

968
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: we should actually put this clip from like Rachel Maddow

969
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: where she says you only need three and a half

970
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: percent of really dedicated population to get behind these revolutionary

971
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: tactics to be true believers, and you can overthrow the

972
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: government because they the belief in the theory is that

973
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: they can project a popular support for a movement with

974
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: three and a half percent, whether that's the No King's rallies,

975
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 2: the media coverage or whatever. And I cannot just score

976
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: this point enough. The same people that orchestrated a lot

977
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: of this in the Eastern Bloc, they are now domestic activists.

978
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: They are working in the NGO system trying to take

979
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Speaker 2: down President Trump. It's a total real thing. Hi, folks,

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Speaker 2: sent you. We have that clip I was talking about,

999
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Speaker 2: which I think it's so important. We're talking about color revolutions,

1000
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 2: Blake and Danny, and I think to assume that people

1001
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: like Rachel Maddow are not in on the shtick or

1002
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: not in on the game that they're playing would be

1003
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Speaker 2: naive and foolish. Go ahead and play this. It's top

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Speaker 2: twenty three.

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Speaker 1: I know you highlight these peaceful protests on your show regularly.

1006
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: Do you think they do any good? Do you think

1007
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: that anything comes from them?

1008
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 9: Yes?

1009
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: You do, Yes, I do.

1010
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 11: I mean, in political science terms, there's what's called the

1011
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 11: three point five percent role, which is that if you

1012
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 11: look at authoritarian regimes of various kinds all over the

1013
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 11: world over the last like century, once you have three

1014
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 11: and a half percent of a population protesting non violently

1015
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 11: against a dictator or an authoritarian, that is essentially an

1016
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 11: unstoppable force that they can't oppose and that precludes them

1017
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 11: from consolidating.

1018
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 2: Dictorial three and a half percent.

1019
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 11: Three and a half percent, it's not that much larger

1020
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 11: a number than what we're already seeing in the streets

1021
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 11: against trump.

1022
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 10: Man.

1023
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 5: It's a very.

1024
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: Revealing clip, Blake.

1025
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 5: They do know, they do know. The Left has a

1026
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 5: tradition of vanguardism. They call it.

1027
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 3: They believe, you know, they say they believe in the

1028
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: power of the people, But sometimes the people are a

1029
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 3: little slow and they need they need a nudge from

1030
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: a smaller set, very interesting topic. That was a great

1031
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 3: question from Don. We have Tom.

1032
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: Next, good question so far today.

1033
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 5: Unmute yourself. What's your question?

1034
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 12: Yes, hey, guys, good to see you. Thanks for the

1035
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 12: awesome job that you do.

1036
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 5: Thank you listen.

1037
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 12: I just want a, I guess, an assessment from your

1038
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 12: point of view, from the thirty thousand foot point of view,

1039
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 12: on the condition of the MAGA America First Movement. I mean,

1040
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 12: is it growing, is it stagnant? How are we looking

1041
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 12: going into the midterms. Just I'll leave it there. There's

1042
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 12: more I could ask, but i'll leave it there.

1043
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: All right, thank you first start us off.

1044
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 5: Ah, sure, I'll go. Yeah, I'll be frank. I'll be frank.

1045
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: I think there's a pretty widespread conception, and I think

1046
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: it's accurate that that maga's in it in some rapids.

1047
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 5: It's in some.

1048
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: Turmoil right now. I don't think Andrew and I have

1049
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: discussed a lot on the show. I think the war

1050
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: with Iran made.

1051
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 5: A lot of people angry, made a lot of people frustrated.

1052
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: A lot of people are true believers. A lot of

1053
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 3: people say Trump does it. I support it. A lot

1054
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: of people wanted Trump to do it all along, but

1055
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: it's an issue that has cleaved the movement apart, and

1056
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 3: that's caused a lot of frustration.

1057
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 5: I think we've also.

1058
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: Seen some drama from We had Scott Greer on the

1059
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 3: other day. He called it the insane clown Party, insane

1060
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 3: clown populism. There's this appeal of very conspiracy driven stuff

1061
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: on the right, and some of those people were part

1062
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: of MAGA, and they've sort of aggressively broken with it.

1063
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: They've said, I am no longer part of it. President

1064
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 3: Trump has betrayed us. All of this is going on,

1065
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 3: I think there's still a lot of promising stuff because

1066
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 3: the administration continues to do good stuff, even if it's

1067
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 3: not what's in the news that we're still seeing deportations.

1068
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 5: They actually keep going up.

1069
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 3: The numbers keep going up, even though it's not front

1070
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: and center. We're still having the war on DEI and

1071
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 3: a ton of institutions. We're still rooting out a lot

1072
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: of deep state barnacles, a lot of left wing barnicle

1073
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 3: and a lot of institutions. We're tearing stuff up, We're

1074
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: causing a lot of good. We're doing, frankly, a lot

1075
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 3: more good than we did in the first Trump administration.

1076
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: And so I think as long as people like us

1077
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: keep highlighting that, I think, and as long as the

1078
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 3: left keeps careening into the abyss on democratic socialism, there's

1079
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 3: going to be continued going to continue to be reason

1080
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: to support MEGA And I think a lot of these

1081
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: people will come back and realize that, especially as we

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Speaker 3: get closer to twenty eight. But right now there is Tromo. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and well, let's be frank, we missed Charlie. Charlie did

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Speaker 3: a lot of you and he's not with us though, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, Danny, talk about the kids, the student.

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Speaker 10: There's there's an unreal expectation that Trump was gonna come

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Speaker 10: in and within like the first year or two suddenly

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00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 10: like transform everything, which is just not possible. And I

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00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 10: don't think they really understand that, Like the Senate actually

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Speaker 10: has to pass stuff like this is out of Trump's control.

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Speaker 10: So the Senate taking over a month and a half

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Speaker 10: off straight, like, that's not Trump's fault. And stuff's not

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Speaker 10: getting passed, appointees are not getting pass and confirmed, and

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Speaker 10: Trump's like almost taking the fall for the Senate's failures.

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Speaker 10: And I think the main problem was this unreal expectation

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Speaker 10: that he was going to come in kind of be

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Speaker 10: this dictator that they wanted and then suddenly transform and

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Speaker 10: fix all of these problems within the first year or two,

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Speaker 10: which is not realistic. And then you take that and

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Speaker 10: you also add in the Epstein stuff and like bad

1101
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Speaker 10: PR and it just compiles on each other where they're

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Speaker 10: kind of just like, we don't care anymore, We're not

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Speaker 10: going to vote, and it's kind of just from this

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Speaker 10: misconception that we're going to be able to do more

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Speaker 10: than we actually could. And it's because it's a lot

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Speaker 10: easier to it's a lot easier to change for the

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Speaker 10: worse than change for the better. I mean the amount

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Speaker 10: of Yeah, trying to reverse a lot of this stuff

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Speaker 10: takes a while, and I think that they just don't

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Speaker 10: really understand that. And then you take just bad PR moves,

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Speaker 10: bad decisions by the ADMIN, and it just led to

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Speaker 10: all of this. I mean, it's not looking good. It's

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Speaker 10: how it's looking.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I would say I would say I

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Speaker 2: agree with Blake's assessment that the MAGA coalition has shrunk.

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Speaker 2: The question is does it well? I would say MAGA

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Speaker 2: has shrunk. Whether the question is whether or not the

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Speaker 2: coalition when it comes to, you know, picking somebody for

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Speaker 2: an office if that coalition has shrunk. I think what's

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Speaker 2: more likely to happen with most of these people is

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Speaker 2: they're not going to vote Democrat. They're probably just going

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Speaker 2: to opt out. Right. We have this problem with in

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Speaker 2: the Trump era of low propensity voters. That's the work

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Speaker 2: that we're doing at turning Point Action is getting those

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Speaker 2: low prop voters out becomes even harder when Trump's not

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Speaker 2: on the bout. He remains i would say, historically popular

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Speaker 2: with conservatives. So there's there's a lot of good and

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Speaker 2: there's there's some headwinds. There's no there's no question.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I explain this to the team the I call it

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Speaker 2: the taxonomy of the right, and a couple of team

1132
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Speaker 2: members like, you got to you got to make an

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Speaker 2: op ed. You got to write an op ed on that,

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Speaker 2: and I probably will do that. I just keep needing

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Speaker 2: to find time for it. But let me just briefly

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Speaker 2: explain it to you. You've got on the one side,

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Speaker 2: you've got the neo cons Because it's always important to

1138
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Speaker 2: remember that foreign policy is going to be the most

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Speaker 2: divisive issue in the right wing coalition. Right, so the neocons.

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Speaker 2: They'd never like Trump, but it feels like they've got

1141
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Speaker 2: some things that they wanted, namely in Iran, and so

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Speaker 2: you got them. You've got the plan trusters that trust

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Speaker 2: the planners. This would be like if the neocons like

1144
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Speaker 2: a Ted Cruz or a Lindsay Graham, the plan trusters

1145
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Speaker 2: would be like, I don't know, a Michael Knowles or

1146
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Speaker 2: a lot of people put turning point in this group.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a fair characterization all the time,

1148
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Speaker 2: but that's in people's collective minds, that's what they think.

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Speaker 2: Then you have the dissidence. This would be like a

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Speaker 2: Matt Walsh that really wants to hold the administration's feet

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Speaker 2: to the fire, but he's never going to vote Democrat. Right.

1152
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Speaker 2: Then you've got the small Libertarians. We had the redhead

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Speaker 2: redheaded Libertarian Josie on the show, for example. These are

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Speaker 2: people and she warns about this that will become disenchanted

1155
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Speaker 2: right when we saw Thomas Massey didn't win re election,

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Speaker 2: that they could opt out. The small Libertarians could opt

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Speaker 2: out of running. And then on the far end of

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Speaker 2: the scale, you've got the the accelerationists. The accelerationists want

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Speaker 2: to burn it all down. They don't want you to

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Speaker 2: vote for They don't want you to vote for President

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Speaker 2: Trump or anybody endorses because they want to burn the

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Speaker 2: party down and rebuild it in their image in ideologically

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Speaker 2: pure manner. We reject that premise. We think that's a

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Speaker 2: terrible idea because what Charlie believed in, what we believe in,

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Speaker 2: is reforming the coalition from within. That's why we endorse

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Speaker 2: candidates and we work our tails off to get them elected,

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Speaker 2: because this is why Brandon Gill exists. You know, Brandon

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Speaker 2: Gill is an all star out of Texas that we

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Speaker 2: would not have gotten elected a generation prior. But he

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Speaker 2: completely gets it. He's completely on script, and he's pushing

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Speaker 2: hard and he's very effective. So we want to reform

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Speaker 2: the movement from within that I would say, the bad

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Speaker 2: actors want to burn it all down, and guess what happens.

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Speaker 2: The neo cons want to pull the plan trusters over

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Speaker 2: to their side, and the dissonance and the accelerationists want

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Speaker 2: to pull the small libertarians and the dissidents over to

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Speaker 2: their side and force a wedge in the party. We've

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Speaker 2: got to keep everybody together pushing in the same direction.

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Speaker 2: And again the question becomes will it matter come election day?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think the question will because a lot of

1181
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 10: people it's already broken. You're going to keep it together

1182
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Speaker 10: because what was kept together is already completely broken. So

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Speaker 10: it's more so going to be about getting them back.

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Speaker 5: It's it's going to be a real challenge.

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Speaker 3: And I'm especially because you call them accelerationists, but I like,

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Speaker 3: I really like Scott Grier's insane clown party formulation. For

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Speaker 3: some of them, it can be very tough to appeal

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Speaker 3: to those people. But let's get into our next question here.

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Speaker 5: Uh is it? Mark? Mark? Unmute yourself and what's your question?

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Speaker 14: Hey, guys, can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: Yep?

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Speaker 14: Okay, So my question is actually similar to what you

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Speaker 14: guys are talking about right now. Every time I see

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Speaker 14: Foon on TV or the internet, I just want to

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Speaker 14: punch the guy.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 14: So I'm sick of the Senate and I'm sick of

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Speaker 14: the Rhinos. So I love Turning Point action. Every time

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Speaker 14: you have Tyler on, I'm like, I'm a loveless to

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Speaker 14: this guy, right because he's actually kind of what got

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Speaker 14: me into Turning Point to begin with them. Charlie's great,

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Speaker 14: but turning point. Action is action oriented, which is what

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Speaker 14: I love. So Number one, do we have a plan

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Speaker 14: to get rid of these scumbag Rhinos? And is You

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Speaker 14: don't have to give it to me over the air,

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Speaker 14: But I'm just curious if when you guys do your meetings, like,

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Speaker 14: is there a plan and do you have it mapped

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Speaker 14: out to get rid of these guys?

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Speaker 2: Number one?

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Speaker 14: And number two? Is there some way we can defund

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Speaker 14: the Rhinos? And I love to be a great website

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Speaker 14: defund the Rhinos, right because just what I think you

1213
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Speaker 14: guys literally were just talking about this, or Danny was

1214
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 14: talking about this. It's like Trump is is I feel

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Speaker 14: like he's kind of trapped and with this war going on,

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Speaker 14: this is this is, this is gonna It's gonna be

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Speaker 14: a problem in the midterms and we he just simply

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Speaker 14: can't afford to lose. And I'm so and matter of fact,

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Speaker 14: can we get these guys to work five days a week?

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Speaker 14: I mean, come on instead of one day week er?

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or I had the honor of a lifetime to call

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Speaker 2: Charlie a friend. And what I remember most wasn't just

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Speaker 2: what people saw on stage, it was what was behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes that was an unwavering commitment to his faith,

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Speaker 2: his love for his family, and his genuine desire to

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Speaker 2: encourage others to live with courage and conviction. Charlie believed

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Speaker 2: that following Christ wasn't something you compartmentalized. He didn't put

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Speaker 2: it in a box. He lived it out loud. It

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Speaker 2: shaped how he lived, how he served, how he treated

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Speaker 2: people every single day. Charlie Kirk American Martyr captures that heart.

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Speaker 2: This documentary isn't just simply about remembering Charlie. It's an

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Speaker 2: invitation for each of us to ask what kind of

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Speaker 2: legacy we're building and whether we're willing to stand firm

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Speaker 2: in our own faith when it's tested. I hope that

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Speaker 2: you'll watch it with your family and have those conversations together.

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Speaker 2: Go to angel dot com slash kirk. That's angel dot

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Speaker 2: com slash kirk, become an Angel Guild member, watch Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk American Martyr and help bring more stories of faith,

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Speaker 2: courage and conviction to audiences around the world. Can we

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Speaker 2: get rid of the rhinos? And the short answer to that,

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Speaker 2: and I know Blake's got a lot of thoughts here

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Speaker 2: is we are doing it, and it's it's happening more

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Speaker 2: slowly than anybody would like, of course, but it's happening

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Speaker 2: through retirements, it's happening through in the case of Lindsey Graham,

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Speaker 2: I hate to say it, through his death. And then

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Speaker 2: it's happening through primaries the way it's supposed to happen,

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Speaker 2: more than it's happened in a long time. As a

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Speaker 2: matter of fact, the party is substantially more conservative than

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Speaker 2: it was just five years ago, than it was ten

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Speaker 2: years ago. And that's a lot thanks to the work

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Speaker 2: that we're doing. A turning point action. But Blake, why

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Speaker 2: don't you expound on that because it's an important point. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it gives hope.

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Speaker 3: Also one percent, and he mentioned what can we do

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Speaker 3: to get rid of them? And the struggle What the

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Speaker 3: Senate always is they have six year terms and incumbents

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Speaker 3: are powerful and they can just stick around a very

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Speaker 3: long time. And we say the House has improved one

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Speaker 3: election at a time, and the Senate improves one election

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Speaker 3: at a time, but it takes a while. We just

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Speaker 3: had Watt leon who's running in North Carolina. He's going

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Speaker 3: to be if he's wins, he'll replace Tom Tillis, who's

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Speaker 3: been a very frustrating Republican on issue after issue, and

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Speaker 3: on a bunch of key nominations and votes and issues.

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Speaker 3: He just hasn't been there. And Wattley will be way

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Speaker 3: better if we're able to get him over the finish line.

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Speaker 3: And if we're able to get Paxton over the finish line,

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Speaker 3: he'll be better on the issues than John Cornyn, repeat

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Speaker 3: over and over.

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Speaker 5: We've got Lindsey Graham, he's died. There's going to be

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Speaker 5: a primary there. They're running, his sister is running.

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Speaker 3: I believe we have we endorsed anyone in that race,

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Speaker 3: Ralph Northam.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see who's able to pull ahead. But if

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Speaker 5: he's able to win, we think he'll be better than

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Speaker 5: Lindsay Graham was. Maybe probably even Lindsay Graham's sister will

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Speaker 5: be better than he was. And so we get progress

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Speaker 5: that one.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody will love war as much as Lindsay.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's possible. I don't think it's possible

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Speaker 5: that man loved a conflict, and so we are going

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Speaker 5: to make.

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Speaker 3: Progress in that way, making them work more. Oh, man,

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Speaker 3: if we could figure out that one. I know Charlie

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Speaker 3: was always calling for them to do it. He once

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Speaker 3: got fired up for the idea, what if they worked

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Speaker 3: over we.

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Speaker 5: Have their Senate schedule.

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Speaker 3: We could throw yeah, throw up their schedule if you're

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Speaker 3: able to see it any date in red. Oh man,

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Speaker 3: you all have to zoom into that one a little bit, guys,

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Speaker 3: But any if you look at it, like the entire

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Speaker 3: month of August is read, there's a week.

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Speaker 10: From August eighth until September fourteenth, they are off for

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Speaker 10: one month and one week straight.

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Speaker 3: Now, obviously a lot of this is they're all off fundraising.

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Speaker 3: They're endlessly fundraising. But the message we try to get

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Speaker 3: through to them, which is very difficult, is to point

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Speaker 3: out that nothing would win them votes faster than to

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Speaker 3: just have the perception that they're actually working and achieving

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Speaker 3: and doing things. We've had a ten percent approval rating

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Speaker 3: of Congress for the last two twenty years.

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Speaker 5: Basically they've never recovered.

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Speaker 3: But in the fifties and sixties, Congress had a pretty

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Speaker 3: high approval rating. Like as an institution, people thought Congress

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Speaker 3: was great and when they were doing things, And I

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Speaker 3: think the way you can do that is to actually

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Speaker 3: do things. I love the idea, what if instead of

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Speaker 3: this long August recess, Senator Thune announced we're buckling down

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Speaker 3: and we're making sure there's no vacant judicial offices, no

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Speaker 3: vacant ambassadors, no vacant lower things. We're confirming everyone President

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Speaker 3: Trump has sent to us. If they were doing that,

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Speaker 3: MAGA would be fired up.

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Speaker 2: It's unacceptable that Thune is allowing the August recess to happen.

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Speaker 2: And I'll explain why. Because midterms, we are looking at

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Speaker 2: a very real possibility where Thune is no longer leader

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Speaker 2: of the Senate. This time is short, we are in

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Speaker 2: a race against the clock, and he's going to take

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Speaker 2: a whole month off. Completely unacceptable. He should have everybody

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Speaker 2: in there to Blake's point and get all of Trump's

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Speaker 2: confirmations over the finish line. And then secondly, he should

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Speaker 2: be doing the talking philibus and I don't care if

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Speaker 2: we don't have the votes for Save America Act. You

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Speaker 2: should just make everybody put their name down yeay or nay.

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Speaker 2: We want to know, and then you ask if we

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Speaker 2: have a map of this. We absolutely have a map,

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Speaker 2: and we absolutely have a plan, and most of these

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Speaker 2: guys you can work with. Right, we're probably like three, four, five,

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Speaker 2: maybe six votes shy on Save America Act. Those are

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Speaker 2: gonna be first up. So put your name down on

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Speaker 2: the list. Be known, have some courage if you're gonna

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Speaker 2: block something as popular as a Save America Act.

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Speaker 5: More votes is good.

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Speaker 3: Make everyone go on the record about specific things because

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Speaker 3: they love the fog of working on these omnibus bills

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Speaker 3: that are hard to get. We have one more question

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Speaker 3: we want to hit. We have three minutes here, Rain,

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Speaker 3: unmute yourself and what's your question?

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Speaker 6: Hell?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, Rain, can you hear it? Yeah, we can

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Speaker 5: hear you. What's your question?

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Speaker 14: Okay?

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Speaker 13: So, oh wow, I've been listening to the show and

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Speaker 13: it's oh god, I got so much.

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Speaker 2: A comment on.

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Speaker 13: But I'm gonna stick with my question. So, although I

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Speaker 13: did not grow up in New Orleans, I spent most

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Speaker 13: of my adult life there. And the general consensus from

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Speaker 13: people that I personally personally know and trust who went

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Speaker 13: to grade school and high school and college and have

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Speaker 13: known Amy Comy Barrett through her professional life up until

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Speaker 13: when she has ended up, you know, in the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 13: the personal general consensus is that she didn't about face

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Speaker 13: because of the threats made against her, her adopted children's lives,

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Speaker 13: and I trust these people that know her, and I

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Speaker 13: wonder what is there, if anything, can anything be done

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Speaker 13: to remove a Supreme Court justice. I mean, and based

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Speaker 13: on all the testimony that I know we all saw

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Speaker 13: from last week when she was asking for extra protection,

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Speaker 13: what can be done to remove somebody from the Supreme

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Speaker 13: Court if they don't feel confident enough to do their

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Speaker 13: job and they're openly professing.

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Speaker 5: It very briefly, very briefly.

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Speaker 3: Are you saying that they knew her in high school

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Speaker 3: and college and that she was more conservative then so

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Speaker 3: she's taking different views?

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Speaker 13: No, yes, absolutely, that's very interesting, right, And people look

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Speaker 13: and on the record, people that know her now have

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Speaker 13: told me that this her about face is one hundred

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Speaker 13: percent about the threats that have been made against her

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Speaker 13: Haitian children. And so I'm wondering, why is she able

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Speaker 13: to continue on the highest court in the land. If

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Speaker 13: she has been inability to go through with her job, well,

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Speaker 13: she doesn't deserve the spot there any longer. And look,

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Speaker 13: I'm not invalidating the threats made against her, but what

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Speaker 13: what I'm saying is, if you feel that much of

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Speaker 13: a threat against your life and it is compromising your

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Speaker 13: your decisions, you you should step down.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, first of all, the only way you can

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Speaker 3: remove a Supreme Court justice is you need a two third.

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Speaker 3: You need to impeach and remove the same way you

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Speaker 3: would a president.

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Speaker 5: You need two thirds.

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Speaker 3: I don't think, and I don't know if she it's

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Speaker 3: supposed to be for misconduct, and if she's just afraid,

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Speaker 3: that's not probably going to muster that many votes. Even

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Speaker 3: if we're very disappointed, I think we could maybe frankly

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Speaker 3: pass more security for Supreme Court justices. We should do

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Speaker 3: that anyway, because it's just too obvious. If you're a

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Speaker 3: left wing lunatic, by far, the biggest way you can

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Speaker 3: try to change the country is just take out one

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Speaker 3: of these Supreme Court justices. They're old, they're not as

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Speaker 3: healthy as other people. You could one hundred percent to

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Speaker 3: do it. We should give them more security. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: we need bravery from people if they're going to be

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Speaker 3: cowed by left wing threats, like you should be in

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Speaker 3: these positions because we need brave people to stand against

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Speaker 3: these evil doers.

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Speaker 5: And it's very disappointing. She really did just do her

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Speaker 5: doing about for.

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Speaker 2: It was Samuel Chase was impeached, but the Senate acquitted

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Speaker 2: him so they couldn't get two thirds, and he served

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Speaker 2: until his death until eighteen eleven.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be very hard to do that, but

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Speaker 5: thank you for that question.

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Speaker 2: Very very hard.

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Speaker 5: We'll see you guys all on Monday. For more on

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