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Speaker 1: Right ahead, everything you need to know about the headlines

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Speaker 1: of the day, and a perspective to give some eternity

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Speaker 1: life and good old regular life. It's Kevin McCollough Monday

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Speaker 1: through Friday on That Cavin Show, and now from the

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Speaker 1: legendary Honors in Sullivan Broadcast Studios. The man who is

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Speaker 1: not what he wants to be, but he's way grateful

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Speaker 3: Here all right, so glad to have you with us.

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Speaker 3: We are celebrating this year, this holiday season, this Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 3: even thinking about New Year. Why wait till the new

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Speaker 3: like why not just continually put yourself on a lifestyle

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Speaker 3: Todd Chapman is back with us from Christian Solidarity International,

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Speaker 3: and I'm speaking specifically, Todd of our efforts to get

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Speaker 3: That's what we're doing this year, and I couldn't be

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Speaker 4: So we've done this partnership for over a decade now,

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Speaker 5: He's got a mind like a steel trap but love.

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Speaker 4: But yes, Well, thousands of slaves have been rescued thanks

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Speaker 4: I love that we're doing it during this Christmas season.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just the perfect time to do it.

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Speaker 4: me wrong, but during the Christmas season. And I'll share

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Speaker 12: One day I was out collecting firewood, and that was

436
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Speaker 12: when the Arabs found me and captured me and took

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Speaker 12: me to Sudan without the chance to tell my family

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Speaker 12: to buy It took me many days to walk the

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Speaker 12: complete journey.

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Speaker 10: They gave us boiled sorghum as.

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Speaker 12: We went, and the men that had been captured with

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Speaker 12: us faced grave dangers.

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Speaker 10: They were considered to be spies, and most of them

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Speaker 10: were killed right in front of us.

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Speaker 12: Upon arrival in the north, I was sold to a

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Speaker 12: master in Miriam village, and then I was sold almost

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Speaker 12: as quickly to another Arab in Magalagate. He made me

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Speaker 12: work for his family, sweeping the compound and washing the dishes.

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Speaker 12: They worked me long and terrible hours pounding sorghum, fetching water.

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Speaker 12: And then they said in order to be a good

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Speaker 12: Muslim woman, I would need to be.

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Speaker 10: Circumcised.

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Speaker 12: I was held down as it happened, and then I

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Speaker 12: was forced to marry against my will. They forced me

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Speaker 12: to work even when I was sick. If I did

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Speaker 12: anything that made them angry, they would beat me. My

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Speaker 12: master never bought me any clothes, never paid me for

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Speaker 12: any of my work, and barely ever fed me.

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Speaker 10: Then one day I heard.

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Speaker 12: About a CSI retriever and I ran to find them

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Speaker 12: in the town. As it turned out, they were freeing slaves.

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Speaker 5: In my region.

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Speaker 12: They had not known about me, but I think God

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Speaker 12: allowed me to find them because they brought me home.

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Speaker 12: We walked that same journey back to South Sudan. And

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Speaker 12: today I thank God because I am free. I think

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Speaker 12: the Arab retriever because he helped, I thank CSI and

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Speaker 12: for those who gave.

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Speaker 10: I cannot think those.

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Speaker 12: Of you who gave money to help us become free

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Speaker 12: ever enough in all of my life. But I do

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Speaker 12: hope that my prayer is answered, that we will not

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Speaker 12: stop until they are all free.

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Speaker 3: They say that over and over again in the slave communities.

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Speaker 3: Once they have been liberated, they say, please, don't stop.

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Speaker 3: They are so concerned about their sisters that are left behind.

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Speaker 3: They're certainly happy that they've been freed. They want to

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Speaker 3: get all of them home. Eight eight eight three four

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Speaker 3: two ten ten. Will you liberate a human being for

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Speaker 3: Christmas this year? Eight eight eight three four two ten ten,

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Speaker 3: or bring her home? Dot Org.

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Speaker 7: Here he is from New York.

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Speaker 5: Kevin Kevin McCullough.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you're here, heydaight eight three four

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Speaker 3: two ten ten. I'm so thankful that you care the

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Speaker 3: people that listen to my voice. Kevin McCullough, out of

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Speaker 3: New York. I know that you care deeply about the world.

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Speaker 3: If you didn't, you wouldn't listen to me. You care

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Speaker 3: about the circumstances that the world is dealing with, all

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Speaker 3: of the news that comes at us and sometimes not

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Speaker 3: knowing what to make of it. And then there's also

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Speaker 3: the news that we never hear about, which is things

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Speaker 3: like human slavery that are still being practiced in northern Sudan.

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Speaker 3: And here to discuss this is Todd Chapman. Todd always

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Speaker 3: appreciates you coming back. Slaves do exist in greater numbers

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Speaker 3: than ever before, even after Wilberforce, even after the great

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Speaker 3: Abolitionists came and went in the Western world. Much of

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Speaker 3: the rest of the world, particularly in Southeast Asia and

499
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Speaker 3: on the African continent, you still have tremendous evil being

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Speaker 3: practiced by slavery people that are taking other human beings

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Speaker 3: as their own property. But our friends at Christian Solidarity International,

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Speaker 3: they're doing something about that. Explain what this all means,

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Speaker 3: especially to someone like this woman named a Cole.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're talking about largely women, but there were

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Speaker 4: men taking captive as well.

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Speaker 3: Back in the most team. Just to be clear, most

507
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Speaker 3: of the men got killed, Yeah they did. They if

508
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Speaker 3: they acted up at all, the slave masters were like,

509
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Speaker 3: you're not worth the effort and gone.

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Speaker 4: So and you're right about that. Primarily that's the case.

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Speaker 4: There were some that you know, did get taken captive.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the men that were actually liberating oftentimes

513
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Speaker 4: were actually born in slavery, right, they were born to

514
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Speaker 4: these slave bombs and so now they've grown up in slavery.

515
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Speaker 4: But bottom line, these were people that were just taken

516
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Speaker 4: captives simply because they were Christian, and these Muslim marauders

517
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Speaker 4: were allowed and empowered, actually equipped armed oftentimes by the

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Speaker 4: government at that time, to go in and basically do

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Speaker 4: a racial or not a racial or religious cleansing, if

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Speaker 4: you will, And so they were taken captive up in

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Speaker 4: what is now North Sudan. CSI was actually instrumental in

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Speaker 4: getting that slave taking stopped back when it was going on,

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Speaker 4: working with the UN and the governments there. But they

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Speaker 4: stopped short of saying mandating to the people that had

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Speaker 4: taken these captives, you know, as slaves. They didn't say

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Speaker 4: you have to release them. They said, yeah, we're not

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Speaker 4: going to do that. Cs I said, okay, well then

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Speaker 4: we'll just trust the Lord and look for a way

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Speaker 4: to do that. So Ever since then, thanks to generous

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Speaker 4: people like you, slaves have been freed every year, and

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Speaker 4: every year we have for about how many years now

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Speaker 4: ten years, Kevin, been partnering with you and your program

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Speaker 4: East I think a little more than a decade yet, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: And every year you step forward, you being the listener,

535
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Speaker 4: step forward and free these captives two hundred and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 4: And not only does that negotiate the freedom for one

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Speaker 4: of these slaves. No cash, by the way, ever changes hands.

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Speaker 4: We basically barter a cattle vaccine that these cattle ranchers need,

539
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Speaker 4: and we set the captive free, bring her back into

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Speaker 4: South Sudan, set her up in a whole new life.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you more about that in a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 4: But I was reading a story here of a young

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Speaker 4: woman now a Cole is her name. But she remembers

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Speaker 4: even though she was a child, she remembers being taken,

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Speaker 4: she was old enough to understand what was happening. She

546
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Speaker 4: remembers the fear, the terror of strangers coming in a

547
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Speaker 4: gunpoint and firing guns and burning their home and beating

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Speaker 4: her parents. And then she was taken to the north

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Speaker 4: and forced into a home where she had to sleep

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Speaker 4: on the floor in a tiny storage room. The children

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Speaker 4: of this family they were allowed to beat her at will.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, she was no more than just

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Speaker 4: like a you know, a stray dog to them, probably

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Speaker 4: not even that. They called her every name that the

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Speaker 4: meaning name they could dirty, jingy, dog, donkey, stupid. She

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Speaker 4: worked all the time, carried water, washing clothes, cooking, even

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Speaker 4: though if she was sick, she had to work they

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00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: didn't care. You know, you think they got her a

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Speaker 4: doctor when she was sick. No, they didn't care. They

560
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: were just going to use her up. She was there

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Speaker 4: to just do what they needed her to do. And

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Speaker 4: then as she grew older, her master began to rape her.

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Speaker 4: She ended up having two kids. When she finally did

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Speaker 4: escape from her captivities, she actually was not able to

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Speaker 4: bring her kids with her. Just a heartbreaking situation, but

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Speaker 4: she knew that she was not going to survive very

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Speaker 4: long and she chose to come into freedom. So now,

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Speaker 4: thanks to your generosity, one of our slave retrievers found

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Speaker 4: her at a watering hole brought her back into the South.

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Speaker 4: She's grateful to be free, but you can imagine, as

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Speaker 4: a mom separated from her kids, she's praying that someday

572
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Speaker 4: her children will be able to be freed and returned

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Speaker 4: to her. That's just one story out of hundreds over

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Speaker 4: one hundred thousand stories just like that that we've heard,

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Speaker 4: and there's a lot of common elements in there, but

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Speaker 4: the bottom line is this is a human being that

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Speaker 4: was taken captive and has been abused in every way

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Speaker 4: possible their entire life. And today you have a beautiful

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Speaker 4: opportunity to set that person free.

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Speaker 5: In the name of Jesus.

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Speaker 3: After they've had some time to recuperate, get medical attention

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Speaker 3: if needed, get some counseling, you know, have someone listen

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Speaker 3: to them, write their story down, give them a written

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Speaker 3: copy of it in their own for themselves. Then they

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Speaker 3: are prepared for their journey the rest of the way

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Speaker 3: to their home. And if they have been able to

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Speaker 3: find out where that is, csiics to it that they

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Speaker 3: get there. If they go to a community where it's

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Speaker 3: a group, a community of former slaves living together, they

590
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Speaker 3: get them there. But one of the things that's really

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Speaker 3: incredible is they're given this thing called a bag of

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00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: hope that is so much bigger than a bag. I

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00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: don't even know how they transport it from one place

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Speaker 3: to another. They get a year's worth of sorghum grain

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Speaker 3: that will feed them. They get a year's worth of

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Speaker 3: seed that will plant them another year's worth of sorghum grain.

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00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: They get all the utensils that they need to cook

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Speaker 3: and garden and clean and fish and all that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff with. They get blankets and tarps, they get

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Speaker 3: things to help protect them from the weather. And then

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00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: every one of them are given one of these little

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Speaker 3: she goats.

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Speaker 5: They get to.

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Speaker 3: Take and it's theirs. It's and by the way, this

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00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 3: is like Christmas for them, I mean beyond Christmas. They're

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Speaker 3: given everything for their life. And they've never had anything

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00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: for the last twenty years, but they have all of

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Speaker 3: this stuff. And CSI gets them relocated. And then this

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00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: is the best part. You think I've already told you

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Speaker 3: the best part. When they arrive at their final destination.

611
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: CSI has gone ahead of them and has worked with

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Speaker 3: the local church and the local pastor and the local

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Speaker 3: community of other former slaves, and they throw them a

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Speaker 3: return home party like you've never seen. You've heard about

615
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 3: the prodigal son and what the father does for that,

616
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: that's nothing compared to the this. They sing and dance

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00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 3: and cook and eat and cheer and clap and cry

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00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: and praise God. They're allowed to worship the God that

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Speaker 3: they knew so many years ago without fear of being killed.

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Speaker 3: And this is their homecoming. This is what you give

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Speaker 3: them for that one time gift of two hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty dollars. Friends, don't be don't be anything but generous

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Speaker 3: her home dot org. There is no better celebration that

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Speaker 3: you will get to be part of, even though it's

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Speaker 3: just given a gift than this. Make it happen, Make

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Speaker 3: these lives experience that moment of joy. It will be

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Speaker 3: the best thing you do this this holiday season. Eight

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Speaker 3: eight eight three four two ten ten eight eight eight

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Speaker 3: That's bring her home dot org. Hey, welcome back Kevin McCullough,

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Speaker 3: that Kevin Show, that kevinshow dot com. For all the

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Speaker 3: social for all the podcasts, for the videos, for the columns,

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Speaker 3: for the newsletter I write on travel. It's all there,

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Speaker 3: and I hope that you will check it out and

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Speaker 3: come and join us. We've got a whole community that's

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Speaker 3: growing around what we do there, and it's just full

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Speaker 3: of common sense and hopefully courage and hopefully what is

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Speaker 3: good and what is right in this world today. And

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Speaker 3: I just hope, friends, that we make a difference. I

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Speaker 3: hope that we take opportunity where it presents itself as

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Speaker 3: God kind of opens doors and says, hey, I want

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Speaker 3: you to think or do something about this. I pray

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Speaker 3: that we will. In fact, I'm very very encouraged that

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Speaker 3: at the end of this year I was reading statistics

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Speaker 3: on the number of suicides, prevented, marriages, healed, relationships reconciled

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Speaker 3: that Focus on the Family has played a role in

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Speaker 3: over the course of this year. And if you don't

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Speaker 3: know who, Focus on the Family is on a lot

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Speaker 3: of the stations, my show, the show you're listening to,

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Speaker 3: is heard on. They're heard at different times, but they

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Speaker 3: are basically a lifeline for people that are having different

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Speaker 3: areas of pain in their life and trying to give

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Speaker 3: all of that to God and be what He wants

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Speaker 3: them to be, and Focus gives them the tools to

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Speaker 3: do that. A lot of people know about the radio show,

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Speaker 3: but they don't really realize that on some level, Focus

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Speaker 3: is much much bigger than that. That they have people

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Speaker 3: that are there wholly dedicated to be resources for counseling

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Speaker 3: and for help, and then there's a lot of printed

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Speaker 3: materials and other resources that they have that people call

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Speaker 3: or write or ask for. And the amazing thing that

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Speaker 3: they've been able to do by way of helping, you know,

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Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of people each and every year. Every year,

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Speaker 3: they like a half million marriages ask for help every year.

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Speaker 3: They're able to do that. It just it stuns me.

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Speaker 3: It blows me away, and I'm just so grateful for

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Speaker 3: who they are, for Jim Daily, for the leadership there,

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Speaker 3: and for everything that they seek to accomplish. Having said that,

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Speaker 3: they need your help. It's the end of the year

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Speaker 3: and they would like to be there in years to

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Speaker 3: come to help more people. And if you appreciate what

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Speaker 3: they do, I would very much like it if you

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Speaker 3: would go to focus on the Family dot com and

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Speaker 3: hit backslash Christmas, focus on the Family dot com, slash

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Speaker 3: Christmas and give a gift today. It's going to go

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Speaker 3: further than you think because there's a matching gift partner

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Speaker 3: that has stepped in and is matching every gift they

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Speaker 3: received between now and the end of the year. So

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Speaker 3: it really is meaningful when you give your dollars today,

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Speaker 3: because it could be twice as many marriages helped from

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Speaker 3: your gift. Next year. It could be twice as many

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Speaker 3: young people teens turning and asking for advice or guidance

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Speaker 3: or help. And you play a role in that. Your

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Speaker 3: financial gift plays a role in that. And it's just

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Speaker 3: really really remarkable. Focused on the family slash Christmas. Focus

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Speaker 3: on the family slash Christmas if you could. And then

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Speaker 3: for those of you that have heard me, I'm not

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Speaker 3: giving up on this. We've got more than one hundred

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Speaker 3: and something slaves to liberate to get every name off

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Speaker 3: the list that we have assembled this year, but it

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Speaker 3: is not too late, and in fact, I would beg

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Speaker 3: of you, plead with you, ask you very kindly and nicely,

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Speaker 3: but also tell you of the urgent importance of liberating

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Speaker 3: a human life. Global countries have given up on this process,

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Speaker 3: but Christian Solidarity International has not, and they continue to

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Speaker 3: liberate the captive. They've done so for the better part

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Speaker 3: of the last two dozen years since the Sudanese Civil War,

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Speaker 3: and they're the only group that's doing it. And at

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Speaker 3: the peak of slavery, there were about one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty five thousand slaves in captivity in Sudan, and now

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Speaker 3: because of the faithful work of CSI and people like you,

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Speaker 3: there are less than forty thousand to go in terms

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Speaker 3: of being liberated, and even some children and so forth

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Speaker 3: are going home with the liberated slave this year. So

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Speaker 3: would you help us. It's just vitally important eight eight

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Speaker 3: eight three four two ten ten eight eight eight three

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Speaker 3: four two ten ten. Well, if you'd like to know

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Speaker 3: more info, you can go to bring her Home dot org.

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Speaker 3: Bring her home dot org, Bring her Home dot org.

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Speaker 3: We'll get you there, and I hope that you will.

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Speaker 3: I hope that you will do that. You can also

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Speaker 3: if you're on that Kevin Show, there should be a

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Speaker 3: banner at the top of the page that you can

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Speaker 3: click there as well. But either way, go and set

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Speaker 3: a captive free today. In Jesus' name, Kevin McCullough, thank

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Speaker 3: you our two straight ahead.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere in the city that define holiday magic is a

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Speaker 1: man who wants a little leghog with his missile zone.

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Speaker 1: That guy would like to carol you plans featuring the

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Speaker 1: musical styling, the meltney and the great colored fingers. Straight ahead,

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Speaker 1: everything you need to know about the headlines of the day,

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Speaker 1: and a perspective to give some eternity to it. Claus

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Speaker 1: practical tips for family life, spiritual life, and good old

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Speaker 1: regular life. It's Kevin McCollough Monday through Friday on That

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Speaker 1: Kevin Show. And now from the Legendary Honors in Sullivan

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Speaker 1: broadcast studios. The man who is not what he wants

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Speaker 1: to be, but he's way grateful that he's not what

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Speaker 1: he used to be.

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Speaker 3: Here. Uh, you're listening to AM five seventy or one

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Speaker 3: or two point three FM, The Mission WMCA. That's if

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Speaker 3: you're in New York. If you're anywhere else, you're listening

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Speaker 3: to that Kevin Show. And we are simply delighted to

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Speaker 3: have you with us. Yes, it's a new day. I

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Speaker 3: may be a new voice in your life. You may

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Speaker 3: be listening in from Anchorage, Alaska, or Los Angeles or

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Speaker 3: Chicago or Dallas or Miami, wherever you're at. We're thankful

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Speaker 3: that you're there. But here's what I want you to know.

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Speaker 3: I do not use airtime needlessly. We try to give

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Speaker 3: purpose to everything that we do, including something that I

742
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: started doing a long time ago, and that is to

743
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Speaker 3: use the airtime that God has been, for whatever reason,

744
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Speaker 3: kind enough to let me be a steward of to

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Speaker 3: use a portion of it every year at extended lengths

746
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Speaker 3: of time to try to expand the Kingdom, to do

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Speaker 3: the Kingdom's work. And I am so so thrilled every

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Speaker 3: year to get to work with Christian Solidarity international. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you've ever thought about what you would

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Speaker 3: how you would respond if you were unjustly, say, in

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Speaker 3: the middle of the night, ripped out of your bed,

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Speaker 3: dragged out into the street, and see your house be

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Speaker 3: set on fire and watch it burn down in front

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Speaker 3: of you, and then realizing that not only did you

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Speaker 3: lose everything that you owned in the house, but you

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Speaker 3: lost your own autonomy to be able to decide if

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Speaker 3: you want to stay or go because someone's putting you

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Speaker 3: in tied up ropes and dragging you to another portion

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Speaker 3: of the world that you don't want to go to.

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Speaker 3: The only reason they're doing this to you is because

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Speaker 3: you believe in Jesus Christ. They don't want you to

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Speaker 3: believe in Jesus Christ. And so they think because you're female,

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Speaker 3: because you're easy to target, that they can just come

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Speaker 3: and take you, take your children, sometimes split up the

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Speaker 3: family and take the daughters away from the mothers, etc.

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Speaker 3: And this is the story that played out for many,

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Speaker 3: many years in the northern portion of Sudan, where they

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Speaker 3: would go to the south where many Christians lived, take

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Speaker 3: the women and children as slaves and march them back

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Speaker 3: to the north. So much has changed in the last

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Speaker 3: twenty five years, because at the height of the Sudan

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Speaker 3: Civil War there were about a one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: five thousand women and children in slavery. That number is down,

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Speaker 3: we believe to somewhere around thirty thirty five thousand that

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Speaker 3: may still be enslaved. And the majority of that work

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Speaker 3: that's been done has been done through Christian Solidarity International

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Speaker 3: and their partnership with people just like you to say

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Speaker 3: we're not going to stand for slavery anymore now. We

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Speaker 3: in the US we get very up on our soapbox

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Speaker 3: about racial injustice and wanting to bring about justice in

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Speaker 3: the world and everything else. I hear a lot of

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Speaker 3: people talk a lot of garbage about that and never

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Speaker 3: raise a finger to do anything. What I'm really thrilled

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Speaker 3: about with Christian Solidarity International is that we are able

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Speaker 3: to tangibly show you how we are actively ending slavery

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Speaker 3: in this point, at least in this corner the world,

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Speaker 3: and the Todd Chapman is back with us from CSI

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Speaker 3: and Todd, you and I have talked a lot about

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Speaker 3: CSI over the years. There's nothing else like it. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of feeding programs out there there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of organizations that focus on trying to get people good

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Speaker 3: housing and other things. Not that any of those things

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Speaker 3: are terrible, but no one. These are the least of these.

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Speaker 3: When we think about the New Testament, these slaves have

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Speaker 3: been forgotten about by literally everyone on the planet except

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Speaker 3: for Christian Solidarity International and people like us who get

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Speaker 3: to tell people about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why we're so grateful for this annual opportunity.

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Speaker 4: We've had to partner with you and bring this to

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Speaker 4: the attention of brothers and sisters because most people don't

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Speaker 4: know about it. I mean, this has long since been forgotten,

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Speaker 4: something that happened late last century. But it didn't just

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Speaker 4: end there, because yeah, the slave taking and died back

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Speaker 4: in the nineteen nineties, but the slave keeping has persisted

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Speaker 4: ever since. And CSI stepped in where governments would not

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Speaker 4: know the taking of the slaves back when all this

807
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Speaker 4: was happening, but they wouldn't go that next step and

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Speaker 4: demand that those who had taken the slaves set them free,

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Speaker 4: which was a travesty. But CSI it was like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 4: if man's not going to do it, we believe God will,

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Speaker 4: and we want to be instruments of his liberation and

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Speaker 4: invite you to be a part of it. So that's

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Speaker 4: why we're here. Two hundred and fifty dollars. You not

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Speaker 4: only set one of these beautiful captive women free, but

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Speaker 4: you also set her up in a brand new life.

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Speaker 4: We give every captive that is marched back into South

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Speaker 4: Sudan together in mass We do this five times a year,

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Speaker 4: and there's a big First of all, we throw a

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Speaker 4: huge celebration party welcoming them home, and then we document them.

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Speaker 4: We take their photo, we get their name, if they

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Speaker 4: remember their name, because a lot of these women they

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Speaker 4: were taken captive when they were kids. They sometimes have

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Speaker 4: no real recollection of who they were from whence they came.

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Speaker 4: But we do our very best to reunite them with

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Speaker 4: their families, and then we set them up in communities

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Speaker 4: with other women who have endured the same hardship and

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Speaker 4: abuse and suffering that they have.

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Speaker 5: And that's a.

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Speaker 4: Beautiful thing because think about that, You've lived your entire

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Speaker 4: life in fear, in isolation, constant beatings, constant abuse, verbal, physical, sexual, mental,

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Speaker 4: every way, and finally you find other women that have

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Speaker 4: endured the same thing you have and that's a bond

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Speaker 4: that very few things in life can forge, right, and

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Speaker 4: so they find community even if we can't reunite them

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Speaker 4: with their family. And then, of course, on a very

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Speaker 4: practical level, your gift also helps, and this is what

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Speaker 4: most of your gift goes to. It provides them with

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Speaker 4: the resources to get started in a new life. We

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Speaker 4: give them food, we give them cooking utensils, shelter, we

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Speaker 4: give them a she goat which they can use not

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Speaker 4: only to breed and give them milk. But it's you know,

842
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 4: that's a micro enterprise opportunity, which is what they need

843
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 4: to get started in life. All of that you buy freedom.

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Speaker 4: You set a human being up in a new life

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Speaker 4: in freedom for the first time in their life for

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Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty dollars. I mean, it's less than

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Speaker 4: a dollar a day if you spread it out over

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Speaker 4: the whole year. This is what you would firmly call

849
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Speaker 4: no brainer money, right. I Mean, you're like, why would

850
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Speaker 4: I not do that that? You know, not only is

851
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 4: it a great deal if you will, a great investment bargain,

852
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 4: but it's also more importantly, it's the calling of Jesus

853
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 4: on us as his children. This is what we're supposed

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Speaker 4: to do. He freed us so that we could in

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Speaker 4: turn share the freedom and the forgiveness and the salvation

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00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: we have experienced, and we can not only share that

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Speaker 4: with but also do that for other people.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 4: We don't talk about that a lot, Kevin, We really

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Speaker 4: don't in the Western church especially. We talk about sharing

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Speaker 4: the good news and all that stuff, you know, But

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Speaker 4: what about actually physically investing in setting captives free. I

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Speaker 4: think that's a lost conversation today, but it's more critical

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Speaker 4: than ever because there are more slaves today in the

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Speaker 4: world than at any time in human history. We go

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Speaker 4: to a great church where I live that is very

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Speaker 4: actively involved with this. We have freed thousands of slaves

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Speaker 4: from the brick kilns in Pakistan. It's just a beautiful

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Speaker 4: thing that our church does. That's one of the reasons

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Speaker 4: we go to that church. We love that it's not

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Speaker 4: just you know, going there and worshiping and feeling good,

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Speaker 4: but it's actually challenging us and encouraging us to set

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Speaker 4: captives free around the world in the name of Jesus.

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Speaker 5: And that's what you get to do.

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Speaker 4: Different context, but the same idea when you partner with

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Speaker 4: CSI today.

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Speaker 3: Eighty eight three four two ten ten eighty eight eight

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Speaker 3: three four two ten ten. You can also give online.

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Speaker 3: It's super easy. Bring her home dot org, Bring her

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Speaker 3: home dot org. If you listening to us right now,

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Speaker 3: are are called to this. I will tell you that

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Speaker 3: God will supply it. And if you believe that it's

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Speaker 3: the right thing to do, and if your family is

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Speaker 3: involved in it like this, then I would so encourage

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Speaker 3: you to do it, because it's been one of the

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Speaker 3: best things we've ever done as a family to say

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Speaker 3: we're all involved, we all give in, you know, we

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Speaker 3: all pitch in on what this means. We all equally

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Speaker 3: sacrifice to make it happen. But friends, if you have

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Speaker 3: the ability to do that, and I know that not

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Speaker 3: very many people do, then would you join us? Would you?

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Speaker 3: Would you do the McCall a family challenge and do

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Speaker 3: slave a month for the next year. Just try it

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Speaker 3: one year and see how and see how it goes.

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Speaker 3: But if you can't even do that much, if you say, well, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: I can't even do a two hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 3: gift right now because things are tight. Could you do

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Speaker 3: fifty dollars for five months? That will get you to

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Speaker 3: one slave liberated and see what God does in your

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Speaker 3: own heart with that. Would you be willing to try that?

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Speaker 3: The point I'm making here is this, if you are

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Speaker 3: open to it, if God is leading you to do it,

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Speaker 3: then He will empower that which he leads you to.

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Speaker 3: I believe that one thousand percent eight eight eight three

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Speaker 3: four two ten ten eight eight eight three four two

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Speaker 3: ten ten or bring her home dot.

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Speaker 8: Org Here he is from New York that Kevin Kevin

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Speaker 8: Love go.

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Speaker 3: Back to Times Square. It's Kevin McCullough. That Kevin show.

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Speaker 3: Grateful to have you with us and is one of

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Speaker 3: those topics that continues to be of huge interest, at

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Speaker 3: least to me and I hope to a significant number

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Speaker 3: of Americans as to where we are going to go

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Speaker 3: in the arms race that is ai. President Trump has

915
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Speaker 3: some executive action he's taken already, there's more that he

916
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Speaker 3: would like to do. But what does it all add

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Speaker 3: up to. Wes Hodges is here from the Heritage Foundation.

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Speaker 3: You know, we love to talk to the Heritage folks

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Speaker 3: every week. And Wes is the acting director of the

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Speaker 3: Center for Technology and the Human Person very interesting department

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Speaker 3: that you had up there. Wes. But that is really

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Speaker 3: the future of what we're talking about, isn't it how

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Speaker 3: technology and human beings interact one hundred percent?

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Speaker 2: And that's why we chose the name.

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Speaker 13: In fact, as we go into what technology does and

926
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Speaker 13: how does it serve us, we got to remember we

927
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Speaker 13: have to weigh in what its effects on the human person.

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Speaker 3: At lose sight of that, Well, let's talk about, first

929
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Speaker 3: of all, what the landscape looks like. China is eating

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Speaker 3: our lunch when it comes to the amount of energy

931
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Speaker 3: that they are putting online. They're putting a new car

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Speaker 3: coal burning power plant online every week for all of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five and all of twenty twenty six. Is

934
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Speaker 3: the blueprint, They're going to have about eight times the

935
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Speaker 3: energy capacity to process AI on an instantaneous basis. A

936
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Speaker 3: lot of people may think that doesn't really matter, and

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Speaker 3: then you begin to understand that national defense and our

938
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Speaker 3: military weaponry and a lot of other things are going

939
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Speaker 3: to be dependent upon AI. So what does what is

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Speaker 3: the gap? How far behind are we What has to

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Speaker 3: be done?

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Speaker 13: Most immediately in your mind, Yeah, Now, the best way

943
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Speaker 13: to answer this question is to ask what are the

944
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Speaker 13: ingredients that go into making AI?

945
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Speaker 2: Our cutting edge AI, and.

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Speaker 13: When you look at it, it's energy, as you point out,

947
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Speaker 13: which China absolutely is eating our lunch.

948
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Speaker 2: They're able to deploy.

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Speaker 13: They don't care, they don't have rules. They say build

950
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Speaker 13: and they build. We have a massive red tape problem here.

951
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Speaker 13: We freeze our ability to be able to expand energy

952
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Speaker 13: to one lower prices for consumers, but two to deploy

953
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Speaker 13: technologies like this, So that's huge.

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Speaker 2: Second is talent.

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Speaker 13: If you look at the numbers, China has now about

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Speaker 13: half of the world's AI engineers. They are spinning up

957
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Speaker 13: their their education pipelines faster than we are. And then

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Speaker 13: you look at data. They certainly have no restraint when

959
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Speaker 13: it comes to privacy. They're able to harvest all of

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Speaker 13: their own.

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Speaker 3: They fished everybody's data in the entire universe.

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Speaker 2: One hunred percent.

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Speaker 13: They steal it if they don't take it legitimately through

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Speaker 13: us using their apps, their tech. In the United States,

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Speaker 13: you look at TikTok, you look at other examples. They

966
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Speaker 13: are harvesting the world's data with no such restraints that

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Speaker 13: we like to appreciate for the sake of free will,

968
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Speaker 13: for freedom, for our own sovereignty in our own digital experiences, anyway,

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Speaker 13: So data, talent, energy regulations, they have us either matching

970
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Speaker 13: or beat. But you know where they don't have us yet.

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Speaker 13: Where we have a clear and definitive event which holds

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Speaker 13: them back and they know it is in hardware technology.

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Speaker 13: Our technology. Our companies are innovating chips far beyond years

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Speaker 13: beyond what they're able to produce. They cannot at this

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Speaker 13: time replicate what our companies are creating. And you know

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Speaker 13: there are supply chain concerns. It's there's concerns where we

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Speaker 13: build these things. Is we are dependent in a lot

978
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Speaker 13: of ways, but right now our chips are the best

979
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Speaker 13: and years ahead of what they provide.

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Speaker 3: What you're talking about, too, is those really really high

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Speaker 3: end megafast processors that that they've just not been able

982
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Speaker 3: to keep up with. So let's let's then take a

983
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Speaker 3: practical look. What is the president most concerned about, what

984
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Speaker 3: is he suggesting, and how do you feel about the

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Speaker 3: plans that he's putting forward.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, when you think about the race with China,

987
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Speaker 13: there's two elements to it. I would point you to

988
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Speaker 13: one is domestic and one is foreign. When it comes

989
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 13: to foreign, we need to make sure that you know

990
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Speaker 13: the one thing we have a clear definitive advantage of

991
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Speaker 13: our chips. We're not sending them too many of our

992
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Speaker 13: best chips. We have restraints that we're not sending our

993
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Speaker 13: best technology to our adversaries. So that's export controls. But

994
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Speaker 13: on the domestic side, for this technology, it's not the

995
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Speaker 13: Manhattan Project. We can't invent it in a closet in

996
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Speaker 13: New Mexico. It needs to be a technology that is

997
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Speaker 13: widely scaled and deployed. And how do you do that?

998
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Speaker 13: You get everyone to use it? Now, how do we

999
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Speaker 13: get everyone to use it? Well, one, you need to

1000
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Speaker 13: make sure that the regulatory regime that we're constructing for

1001
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 13: it is fair and it allows this technology to work

1002
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Speaker 13: across the country. But two, you need to build public trust.

1003
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Speaker 13: You need safeguards to make sure that people know that

1004
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Speaker 13: when they're using it, you know.

1005
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Speaker 2: They aren't the product they are.

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Speaker 13: They're using this for their benefits and it will make

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Speaker 13: our lives better. You know, how does AI serve the

1008
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Speaker 13: American family? Is the question? So what is the president doing?

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Speaker 13: The President most recently signed in executive order as an

1010
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Speaker 13: attempt to restrain bad AI laws in the States. You

1011
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Speaker 13: know that that part I was saying and you need

1012
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Speaker 13: to make sure you have a regime that works across

1013
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Speaker 13: all fifty states. Now, I wouldn't say that there are

1014
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Speaker 13: that many. I'm hard to point to laws that's say

1015
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 13: like this really makes it go off the rails that

1016
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Speaker 13: now we can't have AI in every state. But there

1017
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Speaker 13: are some concerning laws, and it's forward thinking. It's trying

1018
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 13: to think what sort of laws are we trying to

1019
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 13: anticipate to make sure that we're not having. However, you know,

1020
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Speaker 13: the president and is in all of his actually massive

1021
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Speaker 13: authority when it comes to AI.

1022
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Speaker 2: You know, there are some.

1023
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Speaker 13: Very tight, very tight tight rope to walk when it

1024
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Speaker 13: comes to this executive order, because what's saying is we

1025
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Speaker 13: are going to apply scrutiny on state AI laws. In

1026
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Speaker 13: order to do that, the administration needs to prove that

1027
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Speaker 13: these laws not just that you don't like them, but

1028
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Speaker 13: that they're unconstitutional. And you don't need an executive order

1029
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 13: to do that. But one of the benefits of an

1030
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Speaker 13: executive order is it hones the strategy of the administration

1031
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 13: upfront in public. So they're going to be looking at

1032
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 13: state AI laws and asking is this unconstitutional? And does

1033
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 13: this also you know, add too much of a burden

1034
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 13: on our AI regulatory regime as a country. It's going

1035
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 13: to be a very uphill battle. They're also going to

1036
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Speaker 13: be attempting to withhold state grants for states that they

1037
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Speaker 13: deem to have bad AI laws. That is also maybe

1038
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Speaker 13: even a harder task because you know, last time I checked,

1039
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Speaker 13: it's very hard to add new conditions on grants that

1040
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 13: are already committed to states.

1041
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: So it's an uphill battle.

1042
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Speaker 13: They need to prove that these things are unconstitutional, and

1043
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 13: there are a lot of audiences that you know, are

1044
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 13: very concerned about the sort.

1045
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: Of activity, especially going into the midterms.

1046
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Speaker 3: What is the general tone or temperature of the American

1047
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: tech giants that if you remember, right after the election,

1048
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 3: he pulled them all together talked about the need to

1049
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 3: work on AI as kind of a coalition of groups

1050
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: that you know would have some keen input on it.

1051
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: Is that alliance still strongly forged. Has it weakened at all?

1052
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Speaker 3: Do you do you think the private sector is going

1053
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: to be helpful in terms of what we need to

1054
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 3: do for national interests?

1055
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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, we need to trust them as they are,

1056
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 13: not as we want them to be. And thankfully, when

1057
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 13: it comes to artificial intelligence as compared to other technologies

1058
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 13: like social media. There are clear hard benefits to the

1059
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 13: technology is obvious. How artificial intelligence will make us safer,

1060
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 13: make us more prosperous in many ways, hopefully we'll make

1061
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 13: us happier. So it's good that these companies are prioritizing

1062
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 13: this technology and be encouraged to by the administration. Then again,

1063
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Speaker 13: I will say, you know, be careful calling too many

1064
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 13: of these are national champions, because these are the same entities,

1065
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 13: the same companies that have their labs in China as well.

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Speaker 3: That that's what I'm concerned about, Like are they willing

1067
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: to take in America first position and kind of throw

1068
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: down a flag and say no, we're really more loyal

1069
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Speaker 3: to America.

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Speaker 13: That's I mean, that is the tyrope that the President's

1071
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Speaker 13: walking is these massively powerful tech companies, more powerful, more

1072
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 13: influential than any private entity and history of the world.

1073
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Speaker 13: How do you align their interests with the American interest?

1074
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Speaker 13: And that's what the President is pursuing. It's what he's

1075
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Speaker 13: attempting to do. It's why you probably don't see him,

1076
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 13: you know, casting them out into the darkness, but instead

1077
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Speaker 13: working with them and soliciting you know, greater and greater

1078
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 13: investment in the United States with them. But that is

1079
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Speaker 13: the tricky state craft that he is up to, not

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Speaker 13: just with foreign countries, but with these massive tech conglomerates.

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Speaker 3: How much is the economic negotiation that Trump's trying to

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Speaker 3: engage China in going to be used as leverage in

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Speaker 3: this particular vein of development for the two countries.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's tricky because, like I said, the one obvious example,

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Speaker 13: the one obvious leverage we have over them on AI

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Speaker 13: is our chips. And the President is shown he's willing

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Speaker 13: to have a negotiation over all of these things to

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Speaker 13: try and get what he sees as the best result

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Speaker 13: for the country. Our policy work is pointing to saying,

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Speaker 13: you know, we shouldn't be using our cutting edge chips,

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Speaker 13: our best technology as leverage for you know, for example,

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Speaker 13: to make sure that we're buying enough soy beans. That's

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Speaker 13: very important. We need to take care of our farmers.

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Speaker 13: But you know, if we end up in a world

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Speaker 13: in which China has the dominant AI system in the

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Speaker 13: world and that we are running on their AI, you know,

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Speaker 13: we're not going to have that many protections on you know,

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Speaker 13: what we are farming and what we're eating. It matters

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Speaker 13: that when it comes to that, we win the tech

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Speaker 13: fight more so than a lot of these other fights that.

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Speaker 2: We're facing well.

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Speaker 3: And I think that kind of going full circle here,

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Speaker 3: that development of energy is kind of the thing that

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Speaker 3: wins the tech fight. So we've got to be even

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Speaker 3: more conscientious in the development of our energy sources. And

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Speaker 3: that's why I think we we've got to unleash American energy.

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Speaker 3: We've got to go all in on fossil fuels, and

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01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 3: we've got to go all in on nuclear. We've got

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Speaker 3: to do it yesterday rather than tomorrow, because China's already

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Speaker 3: and once they have dominance in AI, they're going to

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Speaker 3: claim dominance across a lot of different areas that are

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Speaker 3: going to impact a ton of countries, and we would

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Speaker 3: definitely be one of them. Wes Hodges, I hope you

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Speaker 3: have a very merry Christmas. Thank you for being with us,

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Speaker 3: and we will talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin, Harry Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Kevin mccallaugh coming back from Times Square. Don't be wife.

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Speaker 8: Here he is come who you are that Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Kevin mckella, Welcome back, Merry Christmas. Calvin McCullough, So glad

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Speaker 3: to be spending in some of it with you. Here's

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Speaker 3: the Tea Collective.

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Speaker 11: Sure now singing Come Lines, Embrace the World, Miss Seek Please,

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Speaker 11: singation Brasi city E, Sound.

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Speaker 9: Solid, Shun.

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Speaker 11: Jesus series ses.

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Speaker 3: All right, sing it loud, sing it now. That's the

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Speaker 3: t collective in the whole group. I'm contributing to that song.

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Speaker 3: But that is the first cut on the record called

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01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 3: such Tiny Shoulders that we want to give to you

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01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 3: as a way of thanking you for participating in this

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Speaker 3: Christmas season as we are doing everything we can to

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Speaker 3: liberate human beings out of slavery in Sudan with our

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Speaker 3: friends at Christian Solidarity International. I've told you the conditions

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Speaker 3: that these women face, and they've been enslaved for fifteen

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five years on average per slave. But the

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Speaker 3: conditions that they have faced are just the most terrific

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Speaker 3: things you can imagine. Just imagine if it was your

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01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 3: own daughter or wife or someone that you cared about

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01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 3: very dearly, but that had been basically taken from their

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Speaker 3: family and completely terrorizing experience, separating them from everything they knew,

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Speaker 3: everything they loved, every one they knew, and then subjecting

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Speaker 3: them to heavy, heavy manual labor, to regular and ritualistic

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Speaker 3: sexual assault and rape, to be starved basically every single day,

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01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: just given enough food to barely be kept alive when

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01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 3: they would get sick or have problems, never shown any

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Speaker 3: mercy or grace, always having to do the work, and

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Speaker 3: in many instances being banned from even being allowed to speak.

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Speaker 3: So you can imagine as these many of these Christian

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Speaker 3: women had prayed for years and years, Lord, please please

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Speaker 3: do all that you can to let me be free

1151
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 3: of this, how magnificent it is for them to receive

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01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 3: word from a retriever that they will be liberated, they

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01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 3: will be set free, and not only that, they will

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Speaker 3: be set free and brought home for the new life

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Speaker 3: that they have because they've been given the bag of

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01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 3: hope that you supply, which is enough food for a year,

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01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: enough seed for a following year's worth of food, enough

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Speaker 3: blankets and tarps and other things to protect them from

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01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 3: weather and from extremes, enough utensils to cook and garden

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01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: and clean and fish with that they've never owned. They've

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Speaker 3: never owned any possessions of their own. They have a Bible,

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Speaker 3: many of them receive different products that specifically females would use.

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Speaker 3: And they also receive a beautiful, beautiful, young little goat,

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Speaker 3: a she goat that is capable of producing milk and

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Speaker 3: cheese and having other goats, and it gives them a

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Speaker 3: micro enterprise, a way of life. And then after they've

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01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 3: had some time to recover from their captivity and to

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Speaker 3: get healthy, many of them need medical attention. Then CSI

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Speaker 3: helps them locate where they came from, if they have

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Speaker 3: any family members that they can be connected to, or

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Speaker 3: if they don't have anywhere to go. CSI, now that

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Speaker 3: they've been liberating slaves for a number of years, have

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Speaker 3: these communities that are really like specially designed for former slaves,

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Speaker 3: women that are living together, doing life together, worshiping together,

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Speaker 3: being able to be in community with each other and friends.

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Speaker 3: When they bring these slaves home the local church in

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Speaker 3: these areas where they are from, it goes crazy. You

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Speaker 3: think the party in the Prodigal Sun story in the

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Speaker 3: text of Scripture is a big showdown. You haven't seen

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Speaker 3: anything compared to these welcome home celebrations, literally welcoming home

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Speaker 3: that which was lost but had been found. You literally

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01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 3: take these women from a stage of living death. Basically,

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01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: they're alive, but they're doing everything in their life is death,

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Speaker 3: and you give them new life by setting them free. Well,

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Speaker 3: if you do that at eight eight eight three four

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Speaker 3: two ten ten, it costs two hundred fifty dollars to

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Speaker 3: liberate a life eight eight eight three four two ten ten.

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Speaker 3: Love to say thank you to you by just giving

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Speaker 3: you a copy of that Christmas CD. You can also

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Speaker 3: give online at bring her home dot org. Bring her

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Speaker 3: home dot org. And if you give that way, we'll

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Speaker 3: still make sure you get the two albums set. But friends,

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01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 3: don't do it for the don't do it for the gift.

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Speaker 3: Do it because you're setting a woman free who's known

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Speaker 3: nothing but pain and torture and slavery for all of

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Speaker 3: her life. What a what better way to bring the

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Speaker 3: gift of Christmas to someone who desperately needs it this year?

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Speaker 3: Please do it eight eight eight three four two ten ten.

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Speaker 5: Or bring her home dot.

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Speaker 2: Org rismas t.

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Speaker 5: Here he is from New York.

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Speaker 3: That Kelly Kevin mckelloch eight three four two or bring

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Speaker 3: her Home dot org. That's the number and the website

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01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 3: that you go to if you want to do the

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Speaker 3: best thing you could possibly do this holiday season, whether

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01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: you're celebrating the Advent of the Child, whether you're going

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01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 3: into the New year, whether you do that all year

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01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 3: long like we should be doing. That's another story. I

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01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 3: want you to be excited about the opportunity to help

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01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 3: a woman who you've never met. You have no idea

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01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 3: who she is. You know, you don't really know much

1212
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 3: about her life except that it has been an excruciating

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01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 3: experience in ways you've never even you've never even thought

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Speaker 3: you would experience. And I'm talking about liberating human slaves.

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Speaker 3: Kevin McCall is my name. Glad to have you with us.

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01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 3: Todd Chapman is also with us from Christian Solidarity International,

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Speaker 3: and Todd, I think about why we love this time

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01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 3: of year so much, And it's all the good feelings.

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01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 3: It's the pactable at Thanksgiving, It's the stockings hung by

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 3: the chimney with care in the Christmas cycle, the it's

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01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 3: all the family and the love and the warmth and

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01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 3: the good stuff that comes in. The people we're talking about,

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Speaker 3: many of them are Christian women who have been disallowed

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Speaker 3: from even thinking, talking, singing, praying to the God of

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 3: the Bible, or thinking about the birth of Christ, the

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Speaker 3: number for the number of years they've been in slavery.

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Speaker 3: In fact, they have been forced to adopt Muslim names,

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Speaker 3: that they've been forced to adopt a practice called female circumcision,

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Speaker 3: which I don't want to get too graphic on the air,

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,480
Speaker 3: but it is basically the mutilation of their own genitals.

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Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, it's not a

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01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 3: sanitary place where they're told to go do it to themselves.

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Speaker 3: And the abuse that these women have taken, just on

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01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 3: the abuse level will be one thing, but then to

1235
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Speaker 3: be denied the right to publicly acknowledge their savior. These

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01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 3: are all part of the gifts that we give back

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Speaker 3: to them this Christmas when we liberate one of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you do that by going to bring her

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01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 4: home dot Orgy. That's a special website that Kevin's up

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01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 4: a few years ago because we have such a long

1241
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 4: standing partnership working together, and Kevi, I just got to

1242
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 4: tell you we're so grateful for your advocacy, for your

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01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 4: passion on behalf of the women that we.

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Speaker 5: And children that we are seeking deliberate.

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Speaker 3: You've just sent such a It's important to mention that

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01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 3: because the children are a new thing just a few

1247
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 3: years ago they weren't allowed to be released with the

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01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: slave masters were very selfish and said no, no, no,

1249
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: only the women goes. But CSI has gotten so good

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01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 3: at being able to talk to these people and to

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01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 3: convince them that we've started to get some of the

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01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: slave's children to be able to be released with them.

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01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 3: And Todd, in all honesty, that may be the only

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01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 3: thing that is part of her life that's truly hers.

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01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 3: The clothing, the place where she's been laying her head,

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01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 3: none of that belongs to her. They barely feed the

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01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,879
Speaker 3: women this child. And you'd think, like, we're so backwards

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01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 3: in the West. We think, oh, well, you know, if

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01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 3: it was a conception of rape or assault or something,

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01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 3: they probably don't want the child. No, these moms love

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Speaker 3: their children and they long to have them with them.

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01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 4: Well sure, and they also know that if the child

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01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 4: is left behind, they've already seen what's going to happen

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Speaker 4: to that child.

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Speaker 5: Do you think that child has any value to that

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Speaker 5: slave owner.

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Speaker 4: No, there's no value there. That's not part of the

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01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 4: desire to keep them. It's simply coercion and power mongering

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 4: and evil, right, that's why they want to keep these kids,

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01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 4: and so yeah, we're very grateful that God has opened

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01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 4: the door for us to be able to do that.

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01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 4: And you know, from an investment standpoint, oftentimes you free

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Speaker 4: the mom you bring a child. You know, you got

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01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 4: a bit of a twofer for a free freedom going there.

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Speaker 4: That's a beautiful thing as well. But we're so grateful

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01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 4: for that. And I just, you know, I think this

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01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 4: is I was saying this before. I just think this

1278
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 4: is the perfect way to celebrate the Christmas season, because

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01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 4: think about what Christmas means.

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Speaker 5: What do we celebrate.

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01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 4: We don't celebrate all the material, you know, garbage that's

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Speaker 4: been attacked attached to Christmas.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's fine.

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01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 4: We give each other gifts, but even that has kind

1285
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 4: of gotten lost. Why do we give gifts, Well, we

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 4: give gifts because the wise men came and they bestowed

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01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 4: gifts of gratitude and praise upon the Son of God

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01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 4: who came to earth. Why to liberate us, right, So

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01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 4: it's really liberate that this season is all about. And

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01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 4: that's why it's not a perfect time for you to

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01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 4: join in what CSI is doing. Freeing these slaves, setting

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Speaker 4: them free. It's what the Bible is all about. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you look the entire trajectory of scripture, captivity and

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Speaker 4: freedom and deliverance is a big part of the storyline

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Speaker 4: of the Bible. Not only physical slave you know, liberation

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Speaker 4: and deliverance, but spiritual as well. Right, And so if

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Speaker 4: you have been freid of freed and you're a Christian,

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Speaker 4: you've experienced the salvation that can only come through Jesus

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Speaker 4: Christ and his shed blood, then man, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I just feel so compelled, And the older I get,

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Speaker 4: the more powerful that compulsion becomes. It's like, I just

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Speaker 4: want more people to experience freedom and Jesus, and I

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Speaker 4: want more people to experience the incredibly good feeling that

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Speaker 4: you get when you say yes, God, use me to

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Speaker 4: share your love in powerfully transformative ways with people not

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Speaker 4: only in my circle here, with people that I will

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Speaker 4: never meet this side of heaven. That is so incredible.

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Speaker 4: And that's what you have the opportunity to do. Friends,

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Speaker 4: two one hundred and fifty dollars. I mean, come on

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Speaker 4: in the grand scale, and look, that's a chunk of money.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say it's not. And for some

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Speaker 4: people that will be a sacrificial gift. But I also

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Speaker 4: know that from many people. On any given month, we'll

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Speaker 4: spend two hundred and fifty dollars here and there on

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Speaker 4: various things, and oftentimes don't even really know where it went.

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Speaker 4: But boy, when you invest that into CSI, you are

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Speaker 4: going to know without a shadow of a doubt what

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Speaker 4: that money was used for. It will purchase freedom physically, spiritually, emotionally,

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Speaker 4: psychologically for a mom and hopefully her child as well,

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Speaker 4: in the name of Jesus. What a powerful investment. During

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Speaker 4: this Christmas season, I was looking at a story of a.

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Speaker 5: Young woman named Nigong.

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Speaker 4: She was taken captive again about twenty five thirty years ago,

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Speaker 4: and armed raiders came stormed her village, tied her up

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Speaker 4: along with many others, and they marched them all up

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Speaker 4: to the north. It happened many many times during this

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Speaker 4: period of history. And then one night, while she was

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Speaker 4: early in her captivity, two young men tried to escape.

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Speaker 4: They were caught. They dragged them back and they killed them,

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Speaker 4: slaughtered them right in front of everybody as a warning sign,

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Speaker 4: don't try this, this is what will happen to you.

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Speaker 4: And so she knew that she was resigned to her fate.

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Speaker 4: She was given to a man who already had two wives,

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Speaker 4: many children, beaten daily, starved, hardly ever fed her, forced

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Speaker 4: to work from dawn until darkness, raped constantly. When she

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Speaker 4: got sick, they didn't give her medicine. They didn't care.

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Speaker 4: I didn't care if she died. She was just a

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Speaker 4: piece of property. And she said, the only God kept

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Speaker 4: me alive. And then one day she was actually at

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Speaker 4: the well gathering water and one of our slave retrievers,

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Speaker 4: we have our slave retrievers constantly looking year round for

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Speaker 4: these slaves and identifying them and then negotiating their freedom,

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Speaker 4: and he found her at the well, negotiated her freedom

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Speaker 4: and she was walked back to South Sudan and freedom.

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Speaker 4: We've got another freedom Liberation March coming up early next year.

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Speaker 4: Your gift today will help add even more people to

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Speaker 4: that list of and we try to do two hundred

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Speaker 4: fifty three hundred, you know, women and the kids at

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Speaker 4: a time. We'd love for you to give a gift

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Speaker 4: now during this Christmas season so that we can fill

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Speaker 4: up our roster, if you will.

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Speaker 5: For that next liberation coming early now.

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Speaker 4: Can you think of a better Christmas gift to give,

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Speaker 4: you know, to a human being that yeah, you're not

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Speaker 4: going to meet her this side of heaven, but boy,

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Speaker 4: one day you will.

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Speaker 5: What a great reunion that's going to be, right, that

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Speaker 5: great first meeting. Can you imagine that? I can't wait?

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Speaker 3: All right, Kevin Fellow, welcome that Kevin Show. That kevinshow

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Speaker 3: dot com for everything you need and we are hopeful

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Speaker 3: that it will be a resource to you as you

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Speaker 3: go through your holiday season. We've got lots of great

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Speaker 3: stuff up there, podcasts, columns, everything that you want related

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Speaker 3: to the show, including our feature how do We Live?

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Speaker 3: And the incredible, incredible series that mister Stone has been

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Speaker 3: involved with us from John eleven this week, it's just

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Speaker 3: been the perfect I think run up to Christmas week.

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Speaker 3: But I hope that you will check that out. And

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Speaker 3: of course, Josh Dave is part of the work at

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Speaker 3: Focus on the Family. He hosts the Pastor to Pastor

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Speaker 3: podcast and he has been a pastor thirty something years

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Speaker 3: on his own, but he has a heart for helping

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Speaker 3: other pastors because we know I've seen the numbers, I've

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Speaker 3: seen the studies pastors are leaving the pastor at a

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Speaker 3: record number in recent years, and we don't want you

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Speaker 3: to be discouraged. We want you to be encouraged and

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Speaker 3: that's why we want to offer you the helps that

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Speaker 3: we do. So check all that out that kevinshow dot

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Speaker 3: com is the easy way to do it. And if

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Speaker 3: you're thinking of Focus on the Family and you've appreciated

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Speaker 3: Pastor Dave's time with us, then I would encourage you

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Speaker 3: to make a year in gift to Focus on the Family.

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Speaker 3: They have a matching partner that's coming alongside and matching

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Speaker 3: Thefamily dot com forward slash Christmas. Focus on the Family

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Speaker 3: dot com forward slash Christmas, and you too could be

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Speaker 3: blessed by just making that gift. And who knows, maybe

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Speaker 3: you've never used a resource from Focus on the Family,

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Speaker 3: but many, many people, hundreds of thousands, millions literally over

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Speaker 3: the years have been helped through what they do. This

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Speaker 3: year alone, I think five hundred and thirty thousand marriages

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Speaker 3: asked for help in communication with Focus and many times

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Speaker 3: this help is given out for free. Oftentimes there's a

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Speaker 3: small cost for whatever materials are involved, but there is

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Speaker 3: an amazing amount of work that they do to help

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Speaker 3: restore and replenish marriages and you know, tired hearts and

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Speaker 3: hurting homes. And that's what focus on the Family's all about.

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Speaker 3: So focus on the family dot com forward slash Christmas.

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Speaker 3: If you would like to be of help, friends, you

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Speaker 3: have the opportunity to take a human being and take

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Speaker 3: them from literally the pit of a living hell that

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Speaker 3: they are experiencing here on earth, and transport them to

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Speaker 3: a life of community, a life of their own determination

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Speaker 3: and choice, having the ability to speak, having the ability

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Speaker 3: to not expect the slave master to come and rape

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Speaker 3: them at night. I mean, there's an enormous good that

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Speaker 3: is being done with Christian Solidarity International and liberating slaves

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Speaker 3: in Sudan. And because of your faithfulness in years past,

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Speaker 3: some of you have given every year for the last

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Speaker 3: ten twelve years that I've been doing this. But you know,

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Speaker 3: because of you, over these years, we've been able to

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Speaker 3: liberate five thousand human beings. Think about the number of

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Speaker 3: people that you even know. Can you count five thousand people?

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Speaker 3: And yet we've been able to give five thousand people

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Speaker 3: brand new lives. Bring her Home dot org is how

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Speaker 3: you do it eight eight, eight, three, four, two ten,

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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty dollars will cover the restart life

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Speaker 3: cost for one slave, and it gives them everything they

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Speaker 3: need grain, emergency survival food for a year, kits, tarps, blankets,

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Speaker 3: you know, tools to clean and garden and fish and

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Speaker 3: you know, all that stuff with. And then also a

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Speaker 3: little she goat that will help them with production of

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Speaker 3: milk and food products but also be able to bear

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Speaker 3: small goats and give them a bit of a micro enterprise,

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Speaker 3: a bit of a means of incomes as well, and

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Speaker 3: that's all included in the price for two hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty dollars for one slave. Would you search your heart

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Speaker 3: and do something right now? But CSI has two hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty two names when we started this campaign. There's

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Speaker 3: still a little more than one hundred on that list,

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Speaker 3: and we don't want to leave a single one of

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Speaker 3: them behind. So if you're one of these people that

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Speaker 3: has means and you really like to give a big

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Speaker 3: gift at the end of the year that would really matter,

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Speaker 3: Like a twenty five thousand dollars gift would liberate it'll

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Speaker 3: it'll liberate a lot, But make that gift it's a

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Speaker 3: tax deductible, and you will be blessing people as you go.

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Speaker 3: Kevin McCullough, we'll talk to you next time.