1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Today, I'm talking about that John can't find 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: the remote until he finds his glasses and defends his 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: love of McDonald's. Meanwhile, I feel old after a conversation 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 1: with a young comedian and tell you the story of 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: the time Winnie the Pooh went on trial for assault 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: in the eighties. Plus a conversation about the late great 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: author and theologian Brennan Manning and what it means to 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: be a ragamuffin. Today's episode is not sponsored by Black 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: licorice for people who love candy but hate themselves. The 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: first a word from our actual sponsor, Johnny. The Long 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Dark Night of the Soul is over. We're back. Yeah, 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: it was a long week off. Yeah, two weeks. I 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: guess for the person who listens all the time, we 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: had people reach out and be like, what the heck, 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Well one episode, that's what I mean. But it's two weeks, 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: so it's a week off, so it's been two weeks 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: since they've so to them. 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: It was the Dark Knight of the Soul. Not to 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: be dramatic, but. 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: That's a little self aggrandizing sick. 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 2: I think that was Saint John of the Cross. It's 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: like the fifteen hundreds. 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got new frames. I just noticed it. I've 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: had a little blue on black action. 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: I couldn't find glasses the other day, which is a 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: very common. 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, daily do you ever look on your head? Do 28 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: you do that yet? No? 29 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: Because things won't stay on my head. 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: It's bald. Oh really Yeah, it's not got any encription 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: or anything. 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 2: Cryption up there. 33 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: But no, but I can't. I don't know if you're 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: frustrated by this, probably, but like I just. 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: Want to see things, okay, And without reading glasses anything 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: like within three feet, I can't really see anymore. 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Can you can still see up close to the rider? 38 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: Are you far away? I can see far away? Gress? 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Oh your fai visions, can see my fagi visions. What's bad? 40 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: So if I want to find the remote control, right, 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: I gotta have glasses. Really, if it's in the covers 42 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: or something, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm 43 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: just frustrated. So then I gotta find glasses to find 44 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: to find something. And I'm like I got to like, hey, hey, 45 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: I sent you something. I'm like, oh, I gotta get 46 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: up and go find glasses because. 47 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: You don't have glasses nearby? 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: Well, that's I'm trying. That's the point of the story. 49 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: I now try to keep glass. This is one of 50 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: the pairs I found to just stick all over the house. 51 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't listen. I don't even care if 52 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: that sounds like an old man story. That's just what 53 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: it is. 54 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: It really is. Man, I'm staring at computing. It's a 55 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: blind man's story. That's not You can be young and 56 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: still need. 57 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 2: Glasses, well, but reading glasses. 58 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, but yeah, I don't know. 59 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: I had perfect eyesight till like age forty. 60 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just when month started going downtown, I didn't 61 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: I didn't even I didn't know what was happening. I 62 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: was with Evan, who would travel with me, who's young, 63 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: he's got young eyes, and he would be my little 64 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: navigator sometimes and where I noticed it like he would 65 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: be like this is the exit, and I go, well, 66 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: hang on a minute, and then about you know, one 67 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: hundred yards later, I'd be like, yeah, that's the exit. 68 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: And then finally when da Alecto around, I go, are 69 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: you seeing He goes yeah, and I realized, oh no, 70 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm blond. 71 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: Arounds me of that Seinfeld where he's. 72 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: Uh oh, Costanza's conveys that he's seeing raccoons. Yeah, those 73 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: aren't raccoons. 74 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: Those are mailbox as, you idiot. 75 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: I didn't have the heart to tell you I was 76 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: spotting those raccoons a perfect vision. Oh George, do you 77 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: think it's squint down to twenty ten? 78 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: Is that what he said? 79 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I can squint down to twenty ten, dude. I So, 80 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: speaking of feeling old, I had a moment the other night. 81 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to out the comedian because it's not 82 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: her fault. It's my fault for being old. And when 83 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: I tell this story, it's going to sound like I'm 84 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: shaming the young generation for not being whatever and being 85 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: in touch with their history. Well, we could do both. 86 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: But there's a comedian in the in the Nashville scene 87 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: who's blowing up, and I'm very proud of her. Actually, 88 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: she's doing well. Her name is Amber Autry and she 89 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: just did the Bees You. She filmed at the Bees 90 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: You in Knoxville are are where you went to school 91 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: and where she went to school as well, and it's 92 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: my hometown. She did three sold out shows at the 93 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: BESU to do her recording, so she's really blown up. 94 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: She's had a little Netflix introducing kind of special where 95 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: it's like an eight minute thing, and she got that 96 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: last year. So we're talking in the green room and 97 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: she's probably she can't even be thirty yet, she's twenty 98 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: mid twenties, just full of energy, just full of hope. 99 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: And we're and it's all these other comedians in the 100 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: thing because it's for the Nashville Comedy Festival week, right, 101 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: So it's me I walk in, It's me Greg Warren, 102 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: some other older comics, and then Amber's over there, and 103 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: then we got there's a few middle age comics, but 104 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like just young guns you know, 105 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: in there, and I'm like, all right, here we go. 106 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: And so it's fun that it's fun to kind of 107 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: talk because you have this in common with them, and 108 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: you go, well, we can all talk comedy. But then 109 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: you just realize, like, oh, even with comedy, there are 110 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: some things that she just does not, like she did 111 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: not know who Albert Brooks was. Somebody says, well, Albert 112 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: Brooks is here, and that's the only one that I 113 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: really want to go secause they're talking about what show 114 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: would you go see as a comic because it's a 115 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: comedy festival Nashville Comedy Festival. You don't know about it. 116 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: There's fifty five shows in town this week at different menus. 117 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable time and gigantics shows, and so you kind 118 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: of have to pick and choose. And I'm out of 119 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: town a lot of it. But I was home for 120 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: to do a show this week, and I'm coming to 121 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: the Albert Brooks show because he's a hero of mine. 122 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: I grew up loving his movies and just I have 123 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: such respects that Belmont. It's at the Fisher Center. And 124 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: so somebody says, oh, Albert Brooks and she goes, I 125 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: don't know who that is. And he goes, okay, Well, 126 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: the guy who's moderating it's a guy named Kevin Pollack. 127 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: And she goes, I don't and she goes. He goes, well, 128 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: he was in a movie called A Few Good Men. 129 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: Do you remember a Few good Men? She goes, I know, 130 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: it's a classic. I don't. And I'm like, man, we're 131 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: just bat in one thousand on old. I mean, we 132 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: just sound so old. Yeah, And then I start talking 133 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: to her about her special I you filmed at the BSU. 134 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: I said, were you happy with it? I said, that's 135 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: amazing that you sold dow three times first of all 136 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: young comic. You're killing it on the road. We're so 137 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: proud of you. And she goes, thanks, it's really been fun. 138 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm really excited. And she goes, I'm really happy with it. 139 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: Because I asked her if she got the footage back. 140 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: And then I go, that's cool. I said, you know, 141 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: I did you self funded because I had a feeling 142 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: she had a bunch of money outside money involved, because 143 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: she's really getting big now. She goes, no, I self 144 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: funded it, and I go, oh, man, that's that took 145 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: a lot of guts. I go, I self funded my 146 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: first special back in twenty fifteen. We recorded it and 147 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: released it in twenty sixteen years of the Franklin Theater. 148 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: And she goes, oh, whatever, let's go, and she was 149 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: all excited for me. And then I go, we made 150 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: the DVD, and I go, I was able to make 151 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: my money back because I was selling DVDs. I was 152 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: touring with another comedian, m Tim Hawkins, who would do 153 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: these big venues and he would let me sell my 154 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: product there and I could sell DVDs. And she looked 155 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: at me. 156 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: She goes, DVDs no way. 157 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: She knew what a DVD was. But she goes, so, 158 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: wait a minute, your special was on the DVD. I go, yeah, Amber, 159 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: that's how people put their specials out. And I said, 160 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: you would have I go, you would have nothing. I 161 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: mean she has like I mean, she probablys T shirts 162 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: and whatever. People don't sell DVDs anymore. No, I don't know, 163 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: but I'm just kidding. But I'm saying, like, she's so 164 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: young at comedy that she does not remember the DVD 165 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: era of specials. Now, there were people who even in 166 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: the DVD era, like Nate. When Nate was blowing up, 167 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: he was kind of almost jealous of me. He would say, like, 168 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: so you sell your special at your table because everything 169 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: he had was like property of Comedy Central or property 170 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: of and so you don't even own you can't go 171 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: sell DVDs of it because it's it's there. You're beholden 172 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: to what they do with it. So I get that 173 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: there were people like that, but most people were like, 174 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: here's my special. 175 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: Here's poor Nate. 176 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: By the way, I know, if he keeps working, he's 177 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: going to go full time one of these days. But 178 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: nobody's interesting, Like just hearing her and having to explain, 179 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: and I felt so ancient. Yeah, and I was like yeah, 180 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, the crazy thing is like 181 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: I got out of the right moment. I had DVDs, 182 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: but then I knew that it was ending. I knew 183 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: that the pandemic was going to finish it off, like 184 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: everybody's going to be stuck in their house streaming everything. 185 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: And I sold the last of my DVDs just in time. 186 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: So I wasn't like, I go, I know a lot 187 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: of comedians they got a warehouse ful, they have a 188 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: garage of DVD and she goes, whoa, and I go 189 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: worse than that. I know comedians with a garage full 190 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: of vhs. Oh, they didn't even get out of vhs 191 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: before it went to DVDs. And she was like, yikes, 192 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: and we were just talking about it. I just thought, 193 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: what a weird thing, like we have this huge thing 194 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: in common, and yet generationally she was looking at me 195 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: like I had three heads. Yeah, because I had my 196 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: special on a DVD. I think she was almost jealous 197 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: of it too, and was like and again I can't 198 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: speak for Amberg, but she was almost like, oh, that 199 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: would be a cool like side money, and it was 200 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: for the time. It really was. And honestly, I'm getting 201 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: ready to do this. There's a thing next year doing 202 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: called Praise Fest or something. It's one of these Southern 203 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: gospel things at Silver Dollar City and Branson. Okay, and 204 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: guess what, I'm pressing some CDs. Absolutely, I'm taking them 205 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: with him because they still buy physical media. Yeah, they're 206 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: still that kind of demographic. So they still want like 207 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: a tactile thing to hey, can he sign my DVD? 208 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Can he whatever? They have DVD players in their house, 209 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: whereas everybody else is just like, I want to hit 210 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: a couple buttons and be watching whatever I want to want? 211 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: Do you still have a DVD player? 212 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: It's in my garage. I never unpacked it. We moved 213 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen and that was the last time. 214 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: I think I just threw mine away in my bedroom. 215 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 2: It was just underneath the clock. 216 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's just a thing, isn't it funny? Man? It's 217 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: just wild out things. Just to keep moving, and eventually 218 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: it'll be I don't know what'll be the next thing. 219 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: You just they zap stuff into our head when they 220 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: even need our heads. The cloud, how it affects my 221 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: head's in the clouds musical artists. Man, there was a 222 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: day and time. 223 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, they made so much more money because they were 224 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: selling albums, right, and not just streaming singles. 225 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now that's why they have to tour three 226 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: hundred days a year to try to make a living. Yeah, 227 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: they try to their table. 228 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: Maybe to buy a product, but it's a product you've 229 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: already heard a million times. 230 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: Maybe, And even now, I don't know physical physical media 231 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: now it's almost a nostalgia. You buy like a vinyl, yeah, 232 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: because you want that thing. It's like a throwback thing. 233 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: You know. Books are still going, yeah, the physical books. 234 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: You know there were audio books didn't kill books. 235 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 2: Well, it would have been ebooks that killed books, but 236 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: there was. They took over for a while. And I 237 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: remember a couple of years back, my agent or someone saying, 238 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: it's kind of like half and half. They came back. 239 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: People still like I still prefer I don't really read 240 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: e books hardly. Ever, my wife does. 241 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: She has it. 242 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: But it's you either do or you don't. I want 243 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: the book. I want to put it on my shelf. 244 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: I want to you know pages, right, I interact with it. 245 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: I mean I don't talk to it or anything. 246 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: When interact. I don't mean that, but I mean I just. 247 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: You know, my agent used to always say Robert Walgemuth, 248 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: who I've talked about it lately and who passed away 249 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 2: earlier this year. And he used to always say it 250 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: was he was so great. He was so brilliant, he 251 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: would say, because he used to travel so much for 252 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: book meetings and everything, and he was the president Thomas 253 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: Nelson at one point, and he was just all over 254 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: the place. And he said on his bookshelf in his office, 255 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: he can pull books off and he can find boarding 256 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: passes in like the first ten pages was like his 257 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: talk to you about making sure that you catch them 258 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: out of the gate. Yeah, He's like, if I see 259 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: a boarding pass in the book, that I know they 260 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: didn't they didn't get me. That's where I put the 261 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: boarding pass and closed the book. 262 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Oh wow. And he would also say, did you say 263 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: about your book, but John, your book, but you there's 264 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: not a boarding pass in there. Well, he was so 265 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: kind to me. 266 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: I think he was kind to me that I was. 267 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: He would always tell me he was. If he told 268 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: you that story, then he's not going to be And 269 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: your boarding passes on page two and you, sir. Yeah, 270 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: he I didn't get past the table of contents. 271 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: The other thing he would say was always so fascinating 272 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 2: and it goes back. I want to say, interact with 273 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,359 Speaker 2: books and maybe me think of this is he would say. 274 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: When you're writing proposals, don't ever write in like a 275 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: plural form. 276 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: Always write in to a person, to one you don't say. 277 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: Readers will find this because a book is not an 278 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: experience between you and people. It's an experience between you 279 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: and a person. So when a person is sitting in 280 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: a cafe reading your book, it's you and them talking 281 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: one on one. 282 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: That's good. 283 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: You get to talk to that one person through your books, 284 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: So talk to one person. So never write to people 285 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: right to a person, which I always saw. So it 286 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: really makes it made it so cool for me, like yeah, 287 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 2: when a person reads that, you know there. 288 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: That's how we feel about our listeners or listener or 289 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: sometimes we feel like, how would you listen to the 290 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: show John if you wanted to. 291 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: Well, you would go to talk about that podcast dot com. 292 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: You can find all of our archived episodes there and 293 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: send us a note. I think we're going to read 294 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: an email later because we got an email from somebody 295 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: that wanted you to come along to a show. They 296 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: had a special request. Did you find that? I saw 297 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: the request. See if you can find it, and then 298 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: maybe we'll read it later. 299 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: When is that show? By the way, it's coming up, John, 300 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 2: Because what I'm going to do is is I'm going 301 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: to send that request through you to the show. Huh. 302 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: I don't. It's not the same though. They want you 303 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: want your presence on it. I don't want just the present, John, 304 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: They want your PRIs I don't want that preach. 305 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: Some of y'all out there just want the presence for 306 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: What you don't want is the press. 307 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: You just being so transacting, you don't don't speaking of transaction. 308 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: We got people here that help us keep the lights on. 309 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: We appreciate them. Let's hear a few words. 310 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: From our fine, fine sponsors, and we're. 311 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: Back, Johnny. I do want to take a moment. Johnny, 312 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: brought me a gift today and you could have showed 313 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: it to the camera. But now you've got your headphones on, 314 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: can you you can take a minute and go ground. 315 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: I want you to show it to this Is that 316 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: all there? He is in to watch on video. I'm 317 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: going to get it. I can't hear you. People go 318 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: to our YouTube channel and you can see what what 319 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: he's holding up here. 320 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: It's gonna take me a second to get my This 321 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: was a disaster. So anyway, Johnny, last time we were 322 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: on the show, I believe sorry, hold on wrong here, 323 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: Last time we were on the show. 324 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: There it goes. 325 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: I was invited by Johnny, Yeah, to the Grand Ole 326 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: Opry to perform. 327 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. 328 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I turned it down, and they brought in Stephen 329 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: Curtis Chapman. But no, this is Johnny. Brought me a 330 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: picture of me and Johnny was Stephen Curts Chapman. Yeah, 331 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: you can see it right now on the YouTube video 332 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: if you like. 333 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: But that's us. It was great. 334 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he wouldn't really talk. 335 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: To me, you know, like a hulking figure next to 336 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Stephen Curtis. He is short. Yeah, in a good way. Though. Well, 337 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: maybe you could have said like, well, I'm six too, 338 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: so what's I mean? I guess he's he's normal size, 339 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: you know I'm saying that. You could have said like, oh, 340 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: I'm sixty. You could have been like, well he's John 341 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: A cuff does that a lot because Johnny Cuff is 342 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: pretty short, and so whenever he stands next to like 343 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: a normal hype person, he looks really little and he goes, man, 344 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: they must have been seven foot tall. He always makes 345 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: a big joke of it. By the way, he was 346 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: so nice. Yeah, so he couldn't have been couldn't have 347 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: been nicer. And you went to your seat because I 348 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: didn't think I was gonna get us a moment with 349 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: us altogether. He was His call time was a little later. 350 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: The show had already started when his call time was, 351 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, man, because you guys got 352 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: there early. And I was like, well, we'll get to 353 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: meet Stephen Curs before the show, and then we didn't. 354 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: And then when he came in, you guys were already 355 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: in your seats, and so I just kind of walked 356 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: over and I was like hey, and you know, anyway, 357 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: he was so nice. He came in to meet my 358 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: wife and our friend Mary Beth, and he was talking 359 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: to he talked, He talked to us for like ten 360 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: minutes about the opry and I told him that, I said, 361 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: Curry goes. You know, Johnny has saying I will be 362 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: here at so many weddings, including our wedding and he goes, 363 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: oh boy, He goes, I hear from guys all the time. 364 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: I tell you, I tell you this. But he goes, 365 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: I hear from guys all the time. He goes, they're 366 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: mad at me about that song. I go. Why, he goes, 367 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: because it's so many words to remember, because every chorus 368 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: is different. It is, and you're at the most nervous 369 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: day of your life. He goes, I wrote this song, 370 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: but the choruses keep changing, and so it's a lot 371 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: of a lot of room for error in that song. 372 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: And he goes, that's my bad. And so he was 373 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: just so funny and so just like a super humble 374 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: guy and everything you would want. Yeah, it's one of 375 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: those like don't meet your heroes kind of you proves 376 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: it wrong because every now and again you meet one 377 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: of your heroes and you're like, all right. 378 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: Man, yeah and again he well, we had a mutual 379 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: friend who passed away that I'd written for, and uh 380 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: we talked about him a little bit and uh and 381 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: he was like, oh my gosh, I remember him talking 382 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: about you. 383 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: So that was kind of cool. Yeah, it was like, uh, 384 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: he hated you. It was like, yeah, that's a weird 385 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: thing to hear for a photo op. Yeah, no, but 386 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: he was he was great. Yeah, that was a fun one. 387 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for that, and thanks for the picture. 388 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: That was a really yeah, we're welcome by I got 389 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: one from me from me at my house too. I 390 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: got so like I had two printed. Yeah, and uh, 391 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: I thought you I thought maybe you could hang on 392 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: the wall on the set. 393 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: But this this wall is about to be filled with pictures. 394 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: Get ready. I believe it was get ready. Although I 395 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: really enjoyed the clean space in here. I think I 396 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: work pretty well in it. But I don't know. 397 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: So I'm in a manuscript. Have you seen the video 398 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: of the thing where the guy goes, uh, he's watching it. 399 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: I can't remember. It says like, remember why you do it? 400 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: He's looking at his computer and it's like a backwards 401 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: of a photo and it's like, remember why you do 402 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: what you do? And he's like he picks up the 403 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: photo and he looks at it and then it pans 404 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: around to show what the photo is and it just says, 405 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: irs on He's just like a big internal revenue service LEGO. 406 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: That's great, that's great. Yeah, I love it. Hey, John, 407 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: I thin it's about that time. Oh okay, good, it's 408 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: my segment. 409 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: We call it. 410 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: They talked about that. 411 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: You know what. 412 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: Today, I picked up a book recently that's one of 413 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: my favorites and started reading it again because I don't 414 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: know if you could read this book too many times. 415 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: It's a ragamuffin gospel. Yeah, Brendan Manning, Brendon Manning, and 416 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people. 417 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: You told me that it was printed originally in nineteen ninety, 418 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: which surprised me because I remember it became real prevalent 419 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: in like two thousand ish. Yeah, right after Rich Mullins. 420 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: I think they really It has three follows pasted and 421 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: he was a big Brenda Manning disciple. He's on the cover. Yeah, 422 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: so that they kind of were like, once Rich Mullins 423 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: became a Brendan Manning guy, a lot of people started 424 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: becoming way more aware of his writings. And I think 425 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: so when they did the re release of the book 426 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: and then it became like a runaway bestseller. Yeah. 427 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: It has three copyright dates nineteen ninety, two thousand, two 428 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 2: thousand and five, so interesting. But I'm just gonna read. 429 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: He has a little pre a little preface called a 430 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: word before. I'm just telling you. I know this is 431 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: a little longer normal quote, but it is just worth it. Okay, 432 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: it's so good. The Ragamuffin Gospel was written with a 433 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: specific reading audience in mind. This book is not for 434 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: the super spiritual. It is not for muscular Christians who 435 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: have made John Wayne and not Jesus their hero. It 436 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: is not for academics who would imprison Jesus in the 437 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 2: ivory Tower of exe Jesus. It is not for noisy, 438 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: feel good folks who manipulate Christianity into a naked appeal 439 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: to emotion. It is not for hooded mystics who want 440 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: magic in their religion. It is not for Allelujah Christians 441 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: who live only on the mountaintop and have never visited 442 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: the valley of desolation. It is not for the fearless 443 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: and tearless. It is not for red hot zealots who 444 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: boasts with the rich young ruler of the Gospels all 445 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: these commandments I've kept from my youth. It is not 446 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: for the complaisant, who hoist over their shoulders a tote 447 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: bag of honors, diplomas, and good works, actually believing they 448 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: have made it. It is not for legalists who would 449 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: rather surrender control of their souls to rules than run 450 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: the risk of living in union with Jesus. If anyone 451 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: is still reading along, the ragamuff And Gospel was written 452 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: for the bedraggled, beat up, and burnt out. It is 453 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: for the sorely burdened who are still shifting the heavy 454 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: suitcase from one hand to the other. It is for 455 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: the wobbly in weak need who don't know they have 456 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: it all together, who know they don't have it all together, 457 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: and are too proud to accept the handout of amazing grace. 458 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: It is for inconsistent, unsteady disciples whose cheese is falling 459 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: off their cracker. It is for poor, weak, sinful men 460 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: and women with hereditary faults and limited talent ones. It 461 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: is for earthen vessels who shuffle along on feet of clay. 462 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: It is for the bent and the Brews who feel 463 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: that their lives are a grave disappointment to God. It 464 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 2: is for smart people who know they are stupid, and 465 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: honest disciples who admit they are scallowags. The Rag and 466 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: Muffin Gospel is a book I wrote for myself and 467 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: anyone who has grown weary and discouraged along the way 468 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: and Manning it's one of those like I can't just 469 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: put I couldn't pull one little part of that. But 470 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's he talks about how in 471 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: the first chapter just the word grace, how it's been commercialized, 472 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: used twisted, and how it doesn't land in any sort 473 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: of way in the American Gospel and the way that 474 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: our ancestors would have heard it, especially you know, coming 475 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: into the Enlightenment, you know, and he goes into what 476 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: Martin Luther be goes. I believe the Enlightenment began when 477 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: Martin Luther made this specific revelation that he writes about 478 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: in terms of what grace was and the righteousness of 479 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: God is. And I just you know, I got to 480 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: speak Sunday to the church, and it was on low Sunday, 481 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: and low Sunday is you know that week between the 482 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: resurrection or the week immediately following the resurrection, so much happens. 483 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: You got the road to Mais, you got doubting Thomas. 484 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 2: I spoke about doubting Thomas on Sunday. 485 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: You know, you have all these these things. 486 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: That are posts the greatest hope of all mankind, of 487 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: all the universe. And yet there's still so much confusion 488 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: that the disciples are still hiding out. They're still worried 489 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: about being arrested, they're still doubting, they're still questioning. Jesus 490 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 2: is still not predictable. He's not with them all the time. 491 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: He just shows up randomly in rooms and other things. 492 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: He's still not like you would think if he's resurrected. Okay, 493 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: that's it, man, the game's over, you know, Like now 494 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: now the king has resided, everyone knows, and he doesn't 495 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: do that. He appears to a lot of people, but 496 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 2: not for the purpose of taking power like they wanted to, 497 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: ending the suffering of the world in particular for them, 498 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: the Roman rule and all those things. And I just 499 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: I think about how it was in that state that 500 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: he was going to send them to receive the Holy 501 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: Spirit and then go straight out to do the work. 502 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: There wasn't like now take three years and meditate and 503 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: all the things I've said, you know, like he sent 504 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: them out broken, like as Brenda Manning just described, he 505 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: sent out men and women like that. They weren't qualified. 506 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: And when I was younger, I talked about this a 507 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: little bit. There are just things you cannot learn through knowledge. 508 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: You can only learn through time and experience. And you 509 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: came there are just questions you can't even ask before experiences. 510 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: And it's not wrong, it's not bad, it's not It 511 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: doesn't mean you're a bad person. It just means that's 512 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: the nature of it. Life is meant to be filled 513 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: with experiences that teach you, you know. And it's only 514 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: now when I feel I mean, man, the reason I 515 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: read that is is I feel very much in alignment 516 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: with the descriptions, and it hurts. It's not the good 517 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: feeling that when you're young and you think, man, I 518 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: hope I get to, you know, grow in humility, or 519 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: I get to grow in my reliance and dependence upon Jesus. Yeah, 520 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: I've yet to, I think breakthrough sometimes to the joy 521 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: of that. But the Lord, I think deals with me 522 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: of the awareness of yes, that is happening. You actually 523 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: are so desperate you rely upon me way more than 524 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: you ever used to. You also, I mean, I also 525 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: have no sense of confidence in anything related to myself. 526 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: That's one I didn't see coming. I didn't know how 527 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: that would feel, right. But I just encourage anybody listening 528 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: that the more that we're I love that last line. 529 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: Who are smart enough to know that they're stupid? 530 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: Right? 531 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: I mean real emotional or spiritual I think inside intelligence, maturity. 532 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: I don't know what you want to call it, but 533 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: you know it can only come. And I forget which 534 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: theologian wrote about this. I think it was maybe John Calvin, 535 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: and we talked about no, no humble person can ever 536 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: truly be aware of it. For the moment they were 537 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: aware of it, it would now be something they could 538 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: boast about to themselves. So I'm not claiming. I don't 539 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: feel like I've arrived at any sort of humility even 540 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: like at this point, it just feels like chaos a 541 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: lot around. And there's a prayer that was inscribed in 542 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: a cave they found from like the second century in 543 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: the desert, from the Desert Fathers and Mothers that just 544 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: says three times, the Lord Jesus, Son of God, have 545 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: mercy on me. And that's the prayer I find myself 546 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 2: praying the most legitimately sometimes in tears, just have mercy, 547 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: you know, through life and through where I am. And 548 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: I just did not expect to be late forties being there, 549 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: and I'm finding I think that I need to be 550 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: grateful for that. Yeah, you know, because I think you're 551 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: closer to the real thing whenever you're there. 552 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: When you get to your fifties like me, you'll see oh, 553 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: you'll just yeah, like now I got it. 554 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: There's a point that was easy. 555 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: Point I used to be where you are, John, Oh, 556 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: I know, I know exactly what you mean. No, I 557 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: love that line about wearily uh moving the suitcase from 558 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: hand to hand, Like that's a really interesting way to 559 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: talk about like the burden. It's really fascinating. Bent over, 560 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: the cheese is falling off your cracker. There's so many 561 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: great word pictures there. 562 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: I am also legitimately jealous of his ability to write. 563 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: Yes, they're like, dude, what the heck man? Save something 564 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: for the rest of it. I'm so smart. But it's 565 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: so accessible at the same time, that's what's really interesting 566 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: about it. It doesn't feel high falutin. It's very like 567 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: that's the whole point of that book, which is I mean, 568 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: it's a must read. It's a must read if you're 569 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: going to read that. Also, then, in relation to Rich Mullens, 570 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: go read An Arrow Pointing toward Heaven, which is kind 571 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: of a biography about Rich Mullends by one of his friends. 572 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: It's very word It's worth reading. It's a fascinating character 573 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: study on Rich in his belief system. I was talking 574 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: with a friend who toured with us, a new friend 575 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: who was presenting on Bath of Compassion. He's a Christian artist. 576 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: We were talking about Rich Mullins and his legacy in 577 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: the Christian music industry and what he would think of 578 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: today and all of those things. Yeah, political and otherwise. 579 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: But those were fascinating conversations. I was grateful to have 580 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: those with him. And we were just talking about Rich 581 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: and who basically took a valve poverty with some friends. 582 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: So his ministry, his musical royalties, is still supporting endeavors 583 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: that he started when he set up when he was alive, 584 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: because he basically gave himself like a thirty thousand dollars 585 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: a year salary along with some other friends and did 586 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: not make any more money than that the last like 587 00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: ten years of. 588 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: His life, and all of this stuff blew up. 589 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so everything. When everything was happening, he knew like, oh, 590 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: this will be toxic to my soul if I don't 591 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: set this up, and so he did. So there's still 592 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: Indian reservations, and there's still I mean, amazing things that 593 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: are happening because of Rich Mullin's life. So anyway, lascinating, John, 594 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: Let's move forward with my segments. Let's do old jokes. 595 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: We tall it, we call it, we call it, joke 596 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: about that, We tall it. We'll get there, John. We're 597 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: a tough day. Listen, we had, we took a week off. 598 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: What do you want from us? John. A guy goes 599 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: to the doctor and says, Doc, I can't get that 600 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: song She's a Lady out of my head. It keeps 601 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: repeating and repeating, and it just won't go away. The 602 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: doctor says, I think this sounds like a case of 603 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: Tom Jones syndrome. The guy says, I never heard of that. 604 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: Is it rare? The doctor says, it's not unusual. I 605 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: can't believe he didn't see that coming. Okay, it's not unusual. 606 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: That's a kind of a dated joke. It's an old 607 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: joke that makes us feel it, but I don't care. 608 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: It made me laugh. It made me laugh, yeah, John. 609 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: A man's looking for organic vegetables for his mother in law. 610 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: He looks in the protocyle we can't find and he 611 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: asked the stock boy, these veggies are from my mother 612 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: in law. Have they been sprayed with poisonous chemicals? This 613 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: talk boy says no, you'll have to do that yourself. 614 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: And finally, John, I did see that, since we're headed 615 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: down a dark path. A man who has just died 616 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: is brought to the mortuary wearing an expensive, beautifully tailored 617 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: black suit. By the way, this came from one of 618 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: our listeners, Paul Joseph, who follows us and used to 619 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: play with myle lefever. He came to my show and 620 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: he sends notes many times. It's great Grammy Award winning 621 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: keyboard player. Wow. And he sent me this and said 622 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: this may be a little too dark, but he sent anyway, 623 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: and I said, I'm reading it on the show. And 624 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: so he gets credit for this one. It's not his joke, 625 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: but he gets credit for the presenting of it. A 626 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: man who's just died is brought to the mortuary wearing 627 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: an expensive, beautifully tailored black suit. The mortician asked the 628 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: widow how she'd like her husband dressed for the viewing. 629 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: He mentions that he already looks quite nice in the 630 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: black suit. The widows says, no, he always looked best 631 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: in blue. She hands the mortician a blank check and says, 632 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't care how much it costs, but just please 633 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: have my husband in a blue suit for the viewing. 634 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: The next day she returns for the wake, and it's 635 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: stunned to find him in a beautiful blue suit with 636 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: a subtle stripe for the viewing, perfectly fitted. She says, 637 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: this is incredible. You did an excellent job. How much 638 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: did it cost? The mortician hands back the blank check. 639 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: Nothing at all. What do you mean nothing? She has, 640 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: I insist on paying you. He smiles and says, well, 641 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: another gentleman of your husband's size was brought in shortly 642 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: after you left, and he happen to be wearing a 643 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: very nice blue suit. I asked his wife if she 644 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: minded him going to his grave wearing a black suit instead, 645 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: and she said it made no difference as long as 646 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: he looked nice. So at that point, he says, it 647 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: was really just a matter of switching the heads. 648 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: Oh dear, wow, it is dark. 649 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had no idea where that was going. That's 650 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: called the old switcher root in punchline, and the old 651 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: head switcher root. Anyway, not my Joe everybody send your 652 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: cards letters to John at John. I'm just kidding, John, 653 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: let's do let's close with this week in history. We 654 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: call it talk about then just a matter of switching 655 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: the heads. See guys, it's yeah John. This week we 656 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: celebrate income tax Day. I don't know if we celebrated, 657 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: but IRIS Appreciation Day, if you will. The first US 658 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: income tax was signed into the law as a three 659 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: percent tax on incomes over eight hundred dollars, effective January first, 660 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty one. It was repealed and replaced with another 661 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: income tax on eighteen sixty two. So this wasn't like 662 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: they were repealed it and was like we got to 663 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: get rid of this, it's corrupt. They were like, hey, 664 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: let's raise let's go ahead and keep it going, keep 665 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: that energy going. But I thought it was in So 666 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: this is obviously tax week for a lot of people, 667 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: most people. If you're American, hopefully you're not hope you're filing. Yeah, yeah, 668 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: go ahead and file. Yeah, don't listen. Even if you're 669 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes, they'll throw you in jail. 670 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta fight. They don't miss around, they. 671 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: Don't mess around there. But anyway, ye, three percent tax 672 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: on incomes, and as we know, it stayed that level. 673 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: We've kept it under control. The government has shown a remarkable, 674 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, some temperance in that area, and they've not 675 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: gone overboard at all. And I think they're to be 676 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 1: commended for that. Thank you federal government. John this week. Oh, 677 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: by the way, I love what they've chosen to spend 678 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: all the money on, don't you think. I mean it's 679 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: really Yeah, it's exactly what I would have wanted. Yeah, listen, 680 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: healthcare would be great, but Lois could let's get some 681 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: missiles in this thing. Let's get some more missiles. You 682 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: can't have another of those. John. This week. Nineteen fifty five, 683 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: Ray Kroc opened his first McDonald's franchise franchise in De Plaine, Illinois. 684 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: Is it desk planes? The plane? I it looks like 685 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: desk planes. The plane looks like des moines. But with 686 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: the plane. His first day sales were three hundred and 687 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: sixty six dollars and twelve cents. This is nineteen fifty five. 688 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: It was the ninth restaurant in the chain started in 689 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: nineteen forty by the brothers Dick McDonald and Maurice mack 690 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: McDonald in San Berneo, California. Kroc had met the McDonald's 691 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: brothers while trying to sell them multi mixers, I guess 692 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: for their sheiks. After seeing their operation, he decided to 693 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: open one of his own, and eventually bought out the 694 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: brothers and built McDonald's into the hamburger Empire. It is 695 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: now you've seen the founder write with Michael Keaton. Interesting movie, 696 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: fascinating movie, kind of weird, like an anti hero kind 697 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: of a presentation of that history. Yeah, so's it's not 698 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: all it's not all shiny, which I find interesting when 699 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: you did see these biographies biopics. The McDonald brothers introduced 700 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: the Speedy Service system in nineteen forty eight. The original 701 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: McDonald's mascot was a chef hat on top of a 702 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: hamburger called Speedy. Speedy was replaced in nineteen sixty two 703 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: by the Golden Arches. The clown Ronald McDonald was then 704 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: introduced in nineteen sixty five. So the clown was not 705 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: the original. Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm it's kind 706 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: of creepy. I think we find clowns a different thing 707 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: for clowns. 708 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think back then clowns were like a clown. 709 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: Let's get kids involved. Yeah, let's get our kids out here, 710 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: like happy meals and stuff. This clown, Yeah, get this 711 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: clown out of here. John This Week, nineteen twelve, what's 712 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: your favorite fast food place? By the way, do you 713 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: still do you do McDonald's Ever you had McDonald's draft through. 714 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: When's the last time you've been to McDonald's with with 715 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: say game, I was on a McDonald's kick for breakfast 716 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: a few weeks back. What you're saying is that what 717 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: it is not a mcgriddel. 718 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: I like a mcgriddl. I think a bas. 719 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: Syrup choice dots of syrup in there. 720 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: I hate the hash brown anyway, like like an animal. 721 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: I know. 722 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: No, I like McDonald's, but I'm not ashamed. Yeah to 723 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: say that it's okay, I don't. I don't go get it. 724 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: Very often terms. 725 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: A shame associated with like being a part of it, 726 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: like a corporation that's made it to that level, and 727 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: you go, oh, they're a soulless whatever. But then sometimes 728 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: you go, yeah, but I mean like people act like 729 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: they're ashamed to be ever seen in Walmart, and you're like, dude, 730 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: just go to Walmart. What's you need? To get something one. 731 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: Quarter pound of cheese. Yeah, that's a good burgner. Yeah, no, 732 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: is it? 733 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: Is it? 734 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: Five guys? 735 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: Good? 736 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 737 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: They're just two different things. You're having two different experiences. 738 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. 739 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 740 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. I hope neither one of those are sponsors 741 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: because we're having an Although five guys, I guess because 742 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: we just gave them a glowing review, they just dump 743 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: those fries out. You have a small fry, and they 744 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: go here, you go, here's a thousand fries. I know. 745 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: That's wow. That's where it gets me. So yeah, I 746 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: have them. 747 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: It's too many. They give you so much, you go. 748 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: I guess I have to finish these to do this 749 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: in order my specific civic duty. John. This week nineteen twelve, unfortunately, 750 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: the sinking of the Titanic, and there were some facts 751 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: about the Titanic in here that I don't think I 752 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: realized even though we've seen you know, you've seen the documentaries, 753 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: you've seen the seen the movie with Leo DiCaprio, which 754 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: is all you know, factually, company f actually correct at 755 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: two twenty am the unsinkable quote RMS Titanic sinks killing 756 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: do you know how many people died of the twenty 757 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty eight people, John, do you want 758 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: to take a guest? Fifteen hundred, fifteen hundred and seventeen, 759 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: good call. I didn't know. I knew there was people 760 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: that survived, but I didn't realize fifteen hundred of the 761 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: two thousand, So he had seven hundred or so of survivors. 762 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: The Titanic had struck an iceberg, of course, in the 763 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: North Atlantic, shortly before midnight, while on her maiden voyage 764 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: from You don't want to know where it was from. 765 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember the voyage? Liverpool, Southampton, Okay two New York, 766 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: New York City. This is the part that and the 767 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: reason why it makes the list. I don't know if 768 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: I realized this. His name was Masabuomi a Sona. He 769 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: was the only Japanese passenger and he survived. He was 770 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: the only Japanese passenger board and he survived. But he 771 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: was ostracized the rest of his life in Japan as 772 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: dishonorable and a coward for not going down with the ship. 773 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: This was like he was the captain. I get, if 774 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: you're the captain, you go down with the ship. That's 775 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: kind of the weird misnomer. But this is just a 776 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: dude and his cult. Like I get honor culture to 777 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: a degree, but wow, you survive and you get home 778 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: and they go, you should be dead. Yeah, did someone 779 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: else not survive? Who should have? Because we need more 780 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: information women. It did not sound like it in this sentence. 781 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: But maybe there's more to the story where he jumped 782 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,479 Speaker 1: on a lifeboat and shouldn't have been. 783 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: If he took some little kid's seat right and they died, 784 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: then I can understand to some extent. 785 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: I need to know more. I'm gonna we're gonna find out, 786 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna we're gonna touch base about it. Next week. 787 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna send somebody's gonna send five emails about it. Actually, yeah, 788 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: that's good. 789 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: We like those emails. 790 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: We do like them, and please send those to Hello 791 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: I talk about that podcast dot com. But what a 792 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: weird thing to survive and then be, like you said, 793 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: if there was nothing else to the story, If it's 794 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: just like I survived, I happen to be Japanese and 795 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: now I get to be this guy like, oh, you survive, 796 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: well you shouldn't have, Like what a bummer that would 797 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: be anyway. 798 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: Story yesterday that they're still exploring the Titanic wreckage and 799 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: the technology keeps getting greater and greater. Where they found 800 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: recently there was this I think it was a brass, 801 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: gold copper, some sort of really important statue that was 802 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 2: a part of the ship. Sure, and it's they saw 803 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: it on some video in like nineteen eighty three or 804 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: something for a minute, and then it's been lost since 805 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 2: the eighties. And they found it again in the wreckage, 806 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 2: so they haven't pulled it up. 807 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. They're going down with the drones or 808 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: something like that. Robots a robot, but they know a 809 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: seed drone. I don't know what you call those submersible Yeah, John. 810 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: This week, seventeen seventy, the first rubber eraser was used. 811 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: English chemist Joseph Priestley referred to rubber referring to rubber, 812 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: described it in a footnote, I have seen a substance 813 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: excellently adapted to the purpose of wiping from paper the 814 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: mark of black lead pencil, thus discovering the use of 815 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: rubber as an eraser. Prior to that eraser, bread crumbs 816 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: were generally used as erasers. Did you know this from 817 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: your search? Of you're a writer, you should know everything 818 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: that's been used as erasers over the bread crumbs. 819 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 2: I don't write with pencils right now, so. 820 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: I guess they used quills too, but I mean I 821 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: guess the reason lead pencils And they're like, how can 822 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: we I need to redo? Yeah, and then they go, 823 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: how about some bread? Yeah, rub some bread on it, 824 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: Rub some bread on it, you guys. Yeah, And then 825 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: they discovered that. Later that year, English engineer Edward Nahirn 826 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: developed the first widely used marketed rubber eraser. So and 827 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: I get we still use them. So that's like one 828 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: of those like seventeen seventy we've kind of yeah we've 829 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: not really you nailed it. You nailed it, but most 830 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: people use computers now in pens, we use pencils, and 831 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: there's even erasable pens. Remember the first erasable pens eraser? Mate? 832 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 2: Not only do I but yes, yeah, yeah that. 833 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: Wasn't now that technology. Yeah, I don't know, I don't 834 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: know how it works. It's just really crappy ink probably 835 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: probably phades really easy. It's just awfu link it was 836 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: going to erase itself anyway. Hope you didn't write anything 837 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: you wanted to refer back to, that was my will. Nope, nope, 838 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: not anymore, eraser, mate, John. This week, nineteen sixty four, 839 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: the Ford Mustang, the new sports car. The Mustang officially 840 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: went on sale. 841 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: Technically it would have been the nineteen sixty four and 842 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 2: a half Mustang. 843 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: I guess that's what they call it. Yeah, at a 844 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: base price of if you. 845 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: Want to guess, Mustang is sixty four and a half, Yeah, 846 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 2: six thousand dollars, two three hundred and sixty eight dollars. 847 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: And I looked it up, so we'll we'll go over 848 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: there in a minute. We'll go there in a minute. 849 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: But it sold on it. It sold an industry record 850 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: of four hundred and seventeen thousand units its first year. 851 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: It was originally intended to be a mid engine two 852 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: cedar roadster, but that changed when the sales of the 853 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: Thunderbird increased after adding a back seat, so they quickly 854 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: kind of remodified and added made it a back seat, 855 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, more of that. So because they wanted pay 856 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: and this could be a family are if we really 857 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand, three hundred and sixty eight dollars in 858 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four, I looked it up. Is equivalent in 859 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: purchasing power to approximately John, you want to guess what 860 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: that car would be today, sixteen thousand, twenty four thousand, 861 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: almost twenty five thousand, twenty four thousand, nine hundred sixty 862 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: two dollars, So it's a twenty five. But again, if 863 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: there was a car, there is a Mustang now, but 864 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: it's whatever the baky or whatever the Mustang is now. 865 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: Most cars now are like forty thousand dollars. Like, it's 866 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: hard to find a twenty five thousand dollars minimum. That's 867 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Twenty five thousand dollars car for a Mustang. Yeah, 868 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: it'd be a pretty pretty good deal. Yeah, number one, 869 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: big Mustang guy. Yeah, that's why it made me. I'd 870 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: brother had a sixty seven. 871 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: You know, when my car broke down, he let me 872 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 2: drive that must senior year a Candy Apple read sixty 873 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 2: seven Mustang he drove, and you know what, And I've 874 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 2: done a lot of old cars. 875 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: It was great. 876 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 2: It looked great. 877 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 878 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 2: Also, it might run out of gas on quart of 879 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: a tank. You know, old cars do weird stuff. You're 880 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 2: pushing it up a hill. It had some bottom out 881 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 2: on speed bumps. 882 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: But it's older by then, so it has it was 883 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: thirty years old by that it looked amazing. 884 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 885 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: No, my brother now has one ook a sixty six. 886 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: I think always has. 887 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 2: Like okay, Christine, Like I went his garage over Easter 888 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: and looked at it again. I go look at every time. 889 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: My brother in law has a mid sixties early sixties Corvette. 890 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: Oh wow, and it's like perfect. Yeah. I think he's 891 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: never washed it. That's how wow. Like he wipes it 892 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: with a cloth diaper and it's that. It's that keeps 893 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: it under a thing. And he drives it twice a 894 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: year and parades and stuff and goes to car shows 895 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: with it. But that's it. 896 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: My brother is like, you know they're empty nesting now yeah, 897 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, now we take the top. It's 898 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: a convertible. 899 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: Oh and they actually go we'll go drive out school, 900 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: go out driving in town and get some together and 901 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: then you get asking, we got ice cream all over? Yeah? 902 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: Oh well John this week. Uh. Fourteen fifty two, Leonardo 903 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: DaVinci was born. He was an Italian artist. 904 00:41:59,719 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 2: Uh. 905 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: His works include the Last Supper in the Mona Lisa. 906 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: But he made the list because he's also the discover 907 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: of capillary action in fourteen ninety and the inventor of 908 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: roller bearings in fourteen ninety six. Now listen, it's a 909 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: renaissance guy. Yeah, I knew that. Like, wasn't there some 910 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 1: drawings of da Vinci that helped with like flight human 911 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: flight too, and like that's crazy. Yeah, there's crazy stuff 912 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: that he did. 913 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, by glider. 914 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: But he discovered that capillary action I think is the 915 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: action of blood climbing up a like a straw, Like 916 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: it will move. I think that's what capillary action is. 917 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: It's not just the movement within the vein. I think 918 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: it's outside. I think that's what capilary action is. Like 919 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: when they take blood from you and they put those 920 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: little straws against the wound, that it climbs up. I 921 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: think that's what capillary action is. I could be wrong, 922 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: but anyway, he's discovering a lot of stuff. Yeah, and go, well, 923 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: I'll think I'll paint the last supper in the Mona 924 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: Lisa too. 925 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. And didn't he paint the ceiling of the Systeine Chapel? 926 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: That was No, that was uh Michaelangelo. Oh sorry, who 927 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 1: are we talking about DaVinci My bad. 928 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I knew that, guys. 929 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also starred in The DaVinci Code, which was a 930 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: great Tom Hanks movie. She's just merging culture into amalcalm. 931 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: It's a mess. We apologize, John finally, in a more 932 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: and more whimsical tone. This week nineteen eighty, Winnie the 933 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: Pooh went on trial nineteen eighty You ready for this one? 934 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,720 Speaker 1: A Disneyland character a character actor appeared in court wearing 935 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: a Winnie the Pooh costume. A family claim that the 936 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: actor had purposely struck their daughter while in the park, 937 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: causing bruising and headaches that lasted for months. The actor 938 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: claimed the girl had been acting out and running to 939 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: attack him when he accidentally hit her with his ear. 940 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: The actor appeared to court the Winnie the Pooh here 941 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: ye his real ear, his Winny the Pooh ear, and 942 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: that's why he appeared in court wearing his costume and 943 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: remained in character while testifying, which had to be amazing. 944 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: This is pre court TV. But I mean, is he 945 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: trying to preserve the kids? He had to do the voice. 946 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: He remained in character while testifying, Oh my, only responding 947 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: to questions with gestures and dancing. It was demonstrated that 948 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: it would be impossible to do with the family claimed 949 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: while wearing the costume, and the actor was found not guilty. Wow, 950 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 1: that's like some Perry Mason stuff. That's like some Johnny 951 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: cockran if the pet fits? Yeah? Anyway, he man, that's amazing. 952 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: He wore the costume and with gestures and dancing, stating 953 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: character the whole time, and then the lawyers were able 954 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: to kind of wrangle kind of a not guilty verdict. 955 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 2: I can tell you something. You know, what's going to 956 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 2: save America. We need to keep our character. Had a 957 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: little more gestures and dancing. 958 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: Well, that's all we need. Dancing. Won't that rehab the gestures? 959 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: Right now we got too many gests. Itsnail the esterj 960 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: We need some happiness. We need what we need. I mean, gosh, 961 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: there's a great aa melon as Winnie the Pooh quote 962 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: that I thought of, and I think of it now. 963 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: You know. We took out, We took Adam Bush out 964 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: on the road with us this past week, you know. 965 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: And I don't take a lot of openers out. It's 966 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: just not been the thing that I've been able to do. 967 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: But now I'm starting to do it more. And I 968 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 1: think about the community that I found in comedy as well. 969 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: You know what did to open Mic and or good 970 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: twinin did this show? And run into Greg Warren and 971 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: you run into all these people, and you hang out 972 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: with Amber Autry, who's an up and coming star, and 973 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: you just go And I was thinking about this. Winnie 974 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: the Pooh a quote and you've probably seen this graphic. 975 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: It's Winny the Poo and Piglet, and Winnie the Pooh says, 976 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: or maybe when Piglet says, twenty the Pooh, what, what 977 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: do you think is more important? The journey or the destination? 978 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 1: And Piglet says that to Pooh, and Pooh says the company. Wow, 979 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: isn't that great? Yeah? So that and that's the thing. 980 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: We live in a country that's so driven to like 981 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: hustle culture has just taken everything and so even when 982 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: we achieve something, we're looking to the next achievement and 983 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: so literally that's that's the the false duality we're presented with. 984 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: Is is it the journey or the destination and the achievement? 985 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: And the truth is it is neither. Because at the 986 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: end of your life, you're going to think about the 987 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: people around you. You're going to think about who did 988 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: I surround myself with while I was chasing these dumb things. 989 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: And so I'm telling you, man that that hits me. 990 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of those like that's good that 991 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: you could build a whole philosophy on that. 992 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 2: Literally just rewrote an old book I wrote in my 993 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 2: head whenever you said that. 994 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: So, yeah, I'm sorry because I probably probably need some 995 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: revisions ever released it. Yeah, okay, there's still time. There 996 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 1: is still time, John, Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I'm 997 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: glad to have you in my company. John. Not to 998 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: get so sentimental on you. I don't want to. Let's 999 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: not try to make anybody weep. No, it's fine. Hey, 1000 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: friends are supposed to love each other. The friends are 1001 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: friends forever, the Bible friends a friend. I think Stephen 1002 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 1: kurtsch Chapman said friends are friend Wait that was Michael W. Smith. 1003 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: Saddle up your horses, that's what That's some old school 1004 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: Stephen Curtis, Yeah, buddy, that was what you know. We 1005 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: got a trailer blaze. 1006 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would love to sit with him and 1007 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 2: talk about how do you feel about the old songs? 1008 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think Kryle. I mean he'd probably 1009 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: be like, you see this house we're sitting in, feel 1010 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: feel pretty good? Now. I think he would say, you 1011 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: saw these kids are helping get adopted. That's why I 1012 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: think he's he seems like somebody it's pretty at peace 1013 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: with his legacy. Yeah, as a performer and a man. 1014 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 1: So find I just put out a book like ro after 1015 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: I met him. Yeah, and you didn't write that book twice. 1016 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: Now you got listen though, now now you've met though, 1017 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: the fuse has been lit, buddy. Hey, when the third 1018 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: one comes out and a weird guy at the opry, 1019 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: let's have him write the next one. Search the internet 1020 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: and scrub the pictures. Yeah, it's fine. 1021 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 2: Well, hey, Johnny, if they want to learn more about 1022 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 2: the show or find more episodes, what do they do? 1023 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: Talk about that podcast dot com. You find all the 1024 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: archived episodes, and we appreciate that. 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Tour dates coming 1035 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 2: all over the country. 1036 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're near Little Rock, We're near Jonesboro, Arkansas. We're 1037 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: going to cleborand Texas near Dallas, and we're going to 1038 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: Crosby which is near Houston. That's coming up next week. 1039 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: Those tickets are still available a JOHNNYW dot com. Those 1040 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: shows are going to be great. They've been so fun. 1041 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: Adam Bush is on those shows with us. Yeah, and 1042 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: Christian McCartney, who's a big YouTube and TikTok sensation, six 1043 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: or seven million followers of this guy. Amazing. Anyway, he's 1044 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: on those shows. Come. They have been such a blast 1045 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: to perform with. So come to those shows. And that's 1046 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: coming up April twenty third through twenty sixth. Yeah, tickets 1047 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: at Johnny W dot com. 1048 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 2: Check it out, guys. It's a lot of fun, guys. 1049 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for the time he gave us today. It's going 1050 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 2: to be back in the saddle with you, guys. We'll 1051 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 2: do it for real next week here I talk about 1052 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 2: that