WEBVTT - The Truth About Thomas Jefferson | Founding Fathers Series Part 5

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<v Speaker 1>In one sentence, Thomas Jefferson not only laid the foundation

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<v Speaker 1>stone for a new nation, he also set that new nation,

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<v Speaker 1>the United States of America, on a path we still

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<v Speaker 1>follow today. His affirmation in the Declaration of Independence that

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<v Speaker 1>quote all men are created equal and endowed by their

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<v Speaker 1>Creator with certain unalienable rights, may be the most influential

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<v Speaker 1>words ever written this side of the Bible. The US Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>ratified a little more than a decade later, was guided

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<v Speaker 1>by those words. Subsequent amendments, including the Fourteenth Amendment passed

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<v Speaker 1>after the Civil War, granting quote equal rights under the

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<v Speaker 1>law seem for all their grandeur to be restatements of

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<v Speaker 1>the equality principle and Jefferson's original declaration. Yet, Jefferson is

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<v Speaker 1>controversial today because he embodies the contradictions of the founders. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>progressive scholars say he was the worst of them, the

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<v Speaker 1>most hypocritical, because the very man who insisted that all

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<v Speaker 1>men are created equal not only permitted slavery, but himself

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<v Speaker 1>owned slaves. To Jefferson not see the glaring contradiction between

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<v Speaker 1>his principles and his practices, between the principles and practices

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<v Speaker 1>of the infant American nation. According to Chief Justice Roger Tawny,

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<v Speaker 1>who authored the notorious eighteen fifty seven dread Scott decision

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<v Speaker 1>affirming slavery in the territories, neither Jefferson nor the other

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<v Speaker 1>founders could have seriously meant that all men are created equal.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't act on the principle, so they couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>believed it. Modern progressive jurists such as Thurgood Marshall, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as historians like John Hope Franklin, have, again, with

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<v Speaker 1>an irony that should not go unnoticed, adopted the Tawny view.

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<v Speaker 1>In Franklin's words, the founders quote betrayed the ideals to

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<v Speaker 1>which they gave lip service. They wrote, quote eloquently at

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<v Speaker 1>one moment for the brotherhood of man, and in the

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<v Speaker 1>next moment denied it to their black brothers. No defense

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<v Speaker 1>of Jefferson or the American Founding is possible that agrees

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<v Speaker 1>with this assessment. How then, can Jefferson and the Founding

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<v Speaker 1>itself be vindicated against this most serious charge. For the answer,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look again at the declaration and what comes immediately

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<v Speaker 1>after the statement all men are created equal. That governments

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<v Speaker 1>derived their legitimacy from the quote consent of the governed

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<v Speaker 1>end quote. This is the democracy principle, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>no less important, no less foundational, than the equality principle.

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<v Speaker 1>With this in mind, let's turn to the practical choice

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<v Speaker 1>space by the founders. Progressive say they should have outlawed

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<v Speaker 1>slavery in the original Constitution. Yet slavery was legal in

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<v Speaker 1>all the states that sent representatives to Philadelphia in seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine. How could these representatives outlaw slavery without the

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<v Speaker 1>consent of the people in their states. Were they expected

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<v Speaker 1>to do so by overriding popular consent. In that case,

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<v Speaker 1>they would be overthrowing democracy itself before it was even

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<v Speaker 1>introduced as the bedrock of the new constitution. Furthermore, as

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in Philadelphia knew at the time, many states would

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<v Speaker 1>not have joined a union that forbad slavery at the outset.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps a few would have done so, but no more.

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<v Speaker 1>Had those who opposed slavery held firm on the issue,

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<v Speaker 1>the union would have consisted of a handful of states,

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<v Speaker 1>or it would have remained a utopian idea affirm by

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<v Speaker 1>a group of high minded founders. But they would be

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<v Speaker 1>founders of nothing. As Jefferson himself said about the slavery issue, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the wolf by the ear, and we can

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<v Speaker 1>neither hold him nor safely let him go. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not reasonable, in fact, it is downright obtuse to ask

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<v Speaker 1>of statesmen to do what they manifestly cannot do. It

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<v Speaker 1>is only reasonable to ask them to make the best

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<v Speaker 1>choices available to them, under the circumstances, to hold the wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>in Jefferson's own terms, until he can safely be let go.

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<v Speaker 1>In Abraham Lincoln's view, the American Founders did just that.

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<v Speaker 1>They temporarily allowed slavery in practice while constructing a framework

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<v Speaker 1>based on anti slavery principles and Lincoln's words. The founders

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<v Speaker 1>quote declared the right so that enforcement of it might

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<v Speaker 1>follow as fast as circumstances would permit. Lincoln's interpretation of

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<v Speaker 1>Jefferson and the Founding was echoed by runaway slave and

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant abolitionist leader Frederick Douglas. Slavery, Douglas said, was merely

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<v Speaker 1>the scaffolding for the new Constitution, allowed provisionally by Jefferson

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<v Speaker 1>and the other Founders, but with the clear objective that

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<v Speaker 1>it would be taken down once the edifice no longer

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<v Speaker 1>needed it. Martin Luther King echoed these same sentiments in

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<v Speaker 1>his famous I Have a Dream speech. That Jefferson didn't

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<v Speaker 1>live up to his highest values is not in dispute,

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<v Speaker 1>but to deny his greatness and his indispensable role in

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<v Speaker 1>the creation of the nation is both narrow minded and foolish.

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<v Speaker 1>His declaration undergirded the Civil War and the Civil rights movement,

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<v Speaker 1>and to this day it remains the anchor of our

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<v Speaker 1>rights and our democracy. Lincoln, Douglas, and King all understood

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<v Speaker 1>that Jefferson created the pathway for America to become a

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<v Speaker 1>better country than it was at the start, a country

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<v Speaker 1>in which the glorious idea that all men are created

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<v Speaker 1>equal is closer to reality than anywhere else in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>He