WEBVTT - The Big Weekend Pod 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.280 Hillsdale at Hillsdale dot edu or I encourage you to 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:08.800 take advantage of the many free online courses there, and 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.119 of course I'll listen to the Hillsdale dialogues, all of 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:14.560 them at Hugh for Hillsdale dot com or just google, Apple, 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:16.840 iTunes and Hillsdale. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:23.800 Well. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.320 That bumper music could not be more app I am 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.080 guest host Kurt Schlicker, sitting in for the great Hugh Hewitt. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.760 That bumper music is, of course, the theme to the 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:36.760 film Exodus, about a bunch of tough Jews who built 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:41.599 a country and save to people. My next guest is 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.320 Eli Lake. You know him as a Free Press contributor. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.600 You can follow him at at Eli Lake and he's 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:51.640 also the author of the Breaking History podcast. Eli. Welcome 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:52.640 to the hu Hewitt Show. 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.360 Oh Kurt, it's great to be here at Happy Holidays, 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.720 Merry Christmas and early happy New Year. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.560 Well, thank you very much much. I appreciate it, and 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.080 I also appreciate what you do on Breaking History because 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:08.080 I just listened to your latest episode, Tough Jews, and 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.960 it gave me something I love, which is a chance 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.040 to learn some history I didn't learn. Tell me a 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:19.119 little about meyer Lansky's contribution to punching Nazis. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.959 Well, I would say he's the pioneer of punching Nazis 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.959 because in the nineteen thirties meyer Lansky, at least according 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.120 to meyer Lansky, we should say the historical records of 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:34.679 its body, was approached by two very prominent leaders in 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.280 the Jewish community at the time, Rabbi Stephen Wise and 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:43.400 Nathan Perlman, a Republican congressman and judge, and was basically 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.400 asked to say, listen, the American Bund, which is the 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:51.639 main Nazi movement, is expanding. They are making a play 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.840 to try to win hearts and minds. They're intimidating Jews, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.400 and we would like you to gather some of your 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.840 tough guys and do what you do best and beat 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.480 him up. And that's what he did. And it wasn't 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.920 just lands gae sets say. I mean, the history is 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:12.080 really interesting because what I didn't realize that well, let 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:13.560 me put it this, I didn't really know it in 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:19.600 the detail until I did the research. The Jewish organized 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.880 criminal class was not only worked with the Italians, and 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.880 we know them as the mafia, but they were in 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:31.120 this period probably as powerful as the Italian Mob. And 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.160 what it was was an effort to try to say, 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.320 looking at Europe and the idea that you know, the 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:45.680 fascists in Italy and Germany were not legitimate political ideologies 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.800 that could coexist in a liberal democracy. Sometimes you have to, 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.000 as I say in the in the in the podcast, 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.480 it takes a thug to beat a thug. And that 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.760 is what happened. And so you know, there's the big 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.239 showdown occurred in what is today the Upper East Side 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.880 was then known as Yorkville, and there was Hitler's birthday. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.960 There was a big rally and Lansky had a couple 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.480 guys infiltrating and a cother couple guys at the exits, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:17.079 and he caused the commotion and a lot of Brown 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.600 Shirts ended up having a pretty bad day. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.920 Well, you had kind of a throwaway line in your 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.560 Breaking History podcast. The Italian Mob, who are famous if 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.800 you've watched The Godfather, you know, not great guys, but 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.400 famously Catholic. They came to Lansky and said, hey, we want. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.760 To help, and Lansky said, no, it's something the Jews 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.040 have to take care of. Themselves. Lansky is a very 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.240 proud guy when it comes to this stuff. We should 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.800 also say this is a part of this history is 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.800 also that once America enters World War Two, Lanski and 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:54.240 Lucky Luciani, who basically creates the Five Families, and you know, 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.920 kind of is the modern version of the Mob. Although 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:59.800 it's hard to say that the Mafi exists like that, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:05.920 it really doesn't. But they were approached by the FBI 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.920 and they were enlisted to basically use their network to 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:15.360 help keep Nazi infiltrators and Nazi and out of the 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.320 ports in New York and the Eastern seaboards. So that's 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:23.159 another part of that story. So you know, in a 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.040 situation like World War Two, when you're facing the Nazis, 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.719 even America's organized criminals, who of course were in their 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.800 own war against the US government and the law at 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.719 the time, but they were willing to cooperate in a 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.679 moment like that, much the same way, you might add 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.120 the way that you know, the United Kingdom and the 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.560 United States had to had cooperated with Joseph Stalin, who 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.400 was obviously one of the great villains of history. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.479 Well, Eli, like you and your podcast, you begin it 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:58.320 talking about Bondai Beach, and you know, it was evident 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.800 that no one's coming to rescue you early on, and 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:06.080 you close talking about Bondai Beach to reemphasize that, and 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.120 you say, you know, I hope the next time they 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.359 the haters come shooting, I hope they meet some Jews 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:13.160 who are packing. 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:15.440 Tell me like that. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.960 That's kind of a you know, there is an impression 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:23.680 of Jewish Americans is very, very liberal. My personal experience 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.280 is a little different, but people have that impression and 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:30.400 the idea of Jews carrying guns in America. And we're 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.240 going to talk a little more about with Saul Litvak, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.520 who directed a movie called Guns and Moses later in 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:39.719 the show. But that seems a little unusual. Are Jewish 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.840 Americans starting to say, wait a minute, we were on first, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.400 we got their first responders. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.480 I mean, first of all, Australia, as you know, confiscated 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.960 its fire arm, yes, nearly thirty years ago after a 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:57.240 mass shooting. And I mean, I still would like to 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:04.360 find out how this father and son Syrian refugees managed 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.760 to get special dispensation to own long guns. I'd really 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.320 like to know the answer to that. How did that 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:16.280 happen because apparently they were licensed. But in America, I 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.800 am hearing anecdotally and I didn't put it in because 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.240 it's not you know, I don't have statistics on it. 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:26.240 I'm hearing anecdotally a number of Jews who have applied 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:30.280 for firearms permits for the first time, and I have 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.840 to say that I don't think it should take it 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.520 to eleven. I think that there are I wouldn't recommend 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:41.880 at this point, you know, recreating America Hanna's Jewish Defense League. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.719 They did things that were clearly over the line, entirely illegal. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.679 But if there are these new groups, and the Hebrew 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.440 word is cho mariem it means guardians, and they're like 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:56.920 young guys largely who organize. Sometimes they coordinate with a 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.160 local police, but they're like a self defense group. If 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.840 you're gonna even if it's not a lethal encounter, if 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.560 you have these examples that we saw about four or 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.799 five weeks ago in the Upper East Side at Park 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:13.520 East Synagogue, they were swarmed. They were mobbed by a 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:20.040 bunch of Palestine Solidarity activists who falsely claimed there was 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.840 a Palestine land sale involved in the synagogue. If you're 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.400 going to target synagogues and you're going to make it 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.920 impossible for Jews to worship when they want to worship 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.400 at their temple, Well, then there ought to be people 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.240 not starting a fight. I'm not talking about vigilantism. I'm 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:40.320 saying just a cordon, a physical cordon that says no 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.040 make way. These people are here. You know, we're not 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.040 going to be part of your Instagram. You know, protest 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.880 here and get out of here. And I actually think 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.560 if you send the right message, because the end result 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.280 was the American bund didn't take off. After Lanski sent 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:02.280 his guys to break up those meetings, they learned that 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.880 there were that the Jews, at least in America, were 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.280 not going to be easy targets. And I think that 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.360 when you're dealing with a threat like that, when you're 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.520 dealing with pure hatred, that that is a different matter 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.840 than like trying to win an argument. I'm a great 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.240 believer in civil society, as you are as well, but 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.120 you have some experience in the military, and when you 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.120 are looking evil in the face, whether it's an American 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:31.560 Nazi or it's somebody who is motivated by the kind 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:36.600 of absolutely extreme Jihattist ideology that says that Israel shouldn't 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.960 exist at a certain point. You know, you have to 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.080 certify fire with fire. 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:41.679 That's my view. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:46.240 Elilaka the Free Press. Go listen to his Breaking History podcast, 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.240 particularly the last one. They're all good, but this last 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.280 one was fascinating. I had no idea about any of 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.640 this history. Thank you Eli Lake for joining us on 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.480 the Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm guess host Kurt Schlichter, We're 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.240 going to be right back with a lot more. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.120 To come, Sail of Seventh Seed. 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.960 With Oh boy, Kirk Schwier is back. Look, I was 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.640 an Army colonel, but I'm the green sheep of the family. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.040 My entire family was US Navy. I'm being joined by 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.600 John Conrad, who has qualified to talk about some of 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.439 his Navy stuff, but he was from what a professional 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:25.120 would tell you maybe the most important component of American seapower, 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.720 the United States Merchant Marine. Because John, I'm gonna throw 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:34.280 you a softball. Professionals talk operations. I'm sorry, amateur's talk operations. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:35.840 What did professionals talk? 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:38.000 Logistics? 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.000 Always logistics? 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.080 Card Oh, you're the best. You have been a huge 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.280 voice out there, particularly in the last few days since 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.040 Stnald Trump presented his idea for a new battleship, and 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.080 a lot of people have the impression we're talking the 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.360 old New Jersey or Iowa, which were amazing in their time, 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.960 and of course their time extended to my time. They 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.200 were off the coast of Kuwait during desert storm and 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.400 I was there. Why battleships? 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:02.839 Why? 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:03.160 Now? 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.480 I love those ships too, But the world has changed, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.320 right the eighty years since World War Two, since there's 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.119 Iowa class were built. 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:17.080 There are new threats now. 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:21.319 And you know, there's enormous pushback against this battleship idea. 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.280 I've never seen anything like it in my twenty years 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.720 reporting on that. It's just massive amount of pushback, mainly 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.040 from the left, but some professionals too. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:31.960 They don't realize what this is. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.680 This isn't a reincarnation of the old, but it has 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.160 some of those features like that sure bombardment that you 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.400 know Army and Marine Corps loves so much. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.480 But what this is really about. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.040 In the Red Sea, we threw everything at the Hoothy's Army, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.560 Air Force, Navy, submarines, two aircraft carriers at once. The 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.320 only thing that was effective in protecting those logistics change 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.920 at the choke point where our destroyers they did great, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.559 but they ran out of ule and ammunition too quick. 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.880 So really think about this as a hybrid between that 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:09.240 Iowa class and a larger destroyer that can stay on 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:10.640 station for longer. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.600 Well, you're not talking something with twelve eighteen inch guns. 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.240 You are talking someone with firepower that can be delivered 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:21.240 onto the shore. And fire support is the main infantry 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.079 killing system. It's not our rifles. It's calling in fire 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.880 on things. So I love that, But what you're really saying, 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.160 tell me if I'm wrong. I'm just a land lubber. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.640 Ships that are bigger tend to be able to go faster. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.160 They also tend to be more survivable. They also tend 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:42.320 to be able to hold more ordnance and that makes 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:43.920 that absolutely a fort. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.640 Absolutely, that's a great way of thinking forward fort. But 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:50.640 that fort has to be resupplied. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.960 Right. We have the underway logistics where the best in 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:58.000 the world that underway replenishment of our carriers given that 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.599 aviation fuel to. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:00.880 To the carriers. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:05.920 But because of this, you know, bad decisions by previous administrations, 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.880 plus this UN International Maritime Organization all their green rules 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.840 are oilers we have too few of them, and they 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:17.600 have all this environmental junk on it that's limiting their effectiveness. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.880 So we're tapping into our merchant marine tankers, but they 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:26.120 are slower and less effective, so the underway replenishment isn't 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.520 as good as they used to be. Plus these vertical 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:32.160 launch cells, they can't be replenished at sea, so the 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.280 destroyers in the Red Sea had to go all the 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.559 way back to Bahrain to get resupplied. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.760 On top of all that, the destroyers. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:45.440 We have new leaser weapons, we have new electronic warfare weapons. Man, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.600 there is we're trying to fit ten pounds of you 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.360 know what in a five pound bag here with these destroyers, 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:56.240 there's no room for this extra stuff. Battleship gives you 0:12:56.280 --> 0:13:00.000 that whole space to store more fuel, ammunition, but also 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.839 so add new capabilities. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.319 Well look the old battleships and I've been to the 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:10.520 uss IOWA here in Los Angeles. Unbelievable, a real it 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.839 is a real eye opener to walk around on that. 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:16.320 And they saw I was a colonel, so they kind 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:17.800 of took me in the back and showed me around 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.440 a little more. Very impressive, but you were talking fifteen 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.040 hundred or so crew. Would you have a giant crew 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:25.880 on one of these or would you be able to 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:30.800 leverage the AI and automation to have a much smaller 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.400 manning footprint for these new vessels. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:37.960 Well, the Navy came out with the initial specs. They're 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.400 thinking six hundred to eight hundred people. And this is 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.600 another question. You know, we can't a carrier group of 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.280 the carrier alone as over five thousand people plus the 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:51.040 destroyer screen in the submarine. That's a very vulnerable threat 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.560 to send out there to a choke point or to 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.720 start inching closer to China. Because this is a fortress 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.520 and has amazing defensive capability, you can put it out 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.040 there at a little more risky areas than a carrier 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:09.200 and instead of losing five thousand people, you'll lose six hundred. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.360 You know this myth, and this is what happened with 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.920 our frigate program, which was just canceled. 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:17.040 We tried to make it survivable. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.120 Against anything where you could throw a nuke at this 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:23.480 thing and it may still float. That's great, but in 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.960 a war, things are going to sync, people are going 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:31.400 to die. We have to accept more risk, and I 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.160 would rather risk six hundred and eight hundred people than 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.360 five thousand and a carrier. But if you send this out, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:41.480 this can be a missile sponge. You know, the Chinese 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.920 are going to shoot a lot of hypersonics and drones. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.840 Everyone says, well, what's going to happen? Well, bring it on. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:48.960 Do you deplete those. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.440 Stockpiles of those things and let these amazing new weapons systems, 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.920 the laser, the integrated seawiz, the deck guns handle this, 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.520 deplete some of those ammunitions and hold. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.240 Strategic choke points. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.880 So now it also is a command and control for 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.080 drone swarms too, which people are forgetting. 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:13.120 Now, Captain John Conrad, your CEO of gcaptain dot com 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.720 and you follow John and you should at John Conrad 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.000 with a K on Twitter. You know, a last civilians 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.000 out there are gonna be going You mean you're gonna 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:26.680 draw fire? Yeah? Yeah, that's that's how we as officers think. 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.880 You you you have to fight, and sometimes you move 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.160 out and draw fire so the other guy can take 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.840 you down. But these aren't pushovers. Like I said before, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.600 and again I'm just gonna lay a lubber. But a 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:43.000 bigger ship tends to go faster. You tend to be. 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.120 You have the power to go quick, you can move, 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:50.640 you've got laser defenses, you got missile defenses. This isn't 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:55.320 a pushover, this is a floating fortress. We have about 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:56.280 fifteen seconds. 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.440 Yeah, and then here's another, a crazy thing that we're 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:02.360 just putting on this. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.520 It's called armor. You know all of. 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:10.560 These Navy ships they're very thin steeler like the LCS aluminum. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.880 Hey, how about some of these missiles are going to 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:14.080 get through? But to have it? 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.760 Didn't the Sheffield have? Did the Sheffield which was taken 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:19.840 up by an exo set off the Falklands having him? 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.040 Wasn't that aluminum? And didn't we learn from that? 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:25.360 Absolutely? 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.280 And then Trump wants to bring back the steel industry 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.520 with this. So we get the armor and we get 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:31.480 more steel. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:32.800 Capacity from manufacturing. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:37.160 That's a win win win. John Conrad, Captain John Conrad, 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.480 CEO of G Captain follow at John Conrad, another guy 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.680 who wants in America strong and powerful. We all do 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.240 here at the Hue Hewitt Show. Guest goes Kurt Schlickter. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.400 Stick around. We're back on the Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:56.000 guest host Kurt Schlickter, Senior Corominisotownhall dot com trial lawyer, 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.960 retired Army colonel, author of Panama. Read the new novel 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:05.159 it's number nine, and I'll tell you it's fantastic, and 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.640 you can believe me because I was an LA trial lawyer. 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.440 My next yes, used to be a lawyer too. He's 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:15.440 also recovering from it. I just I just met Salivac 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.560 recently after watching his movie Guns and Moses, which is 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:23.040 out now. It's available on Amazon for free, and I 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:24.720 gotta tell you it's a lot of fun. So I 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.480 thought I invite him on here to talk a little 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.320 more with us. Sal Welcome to the Hugh Hewitt Show. 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:32.119 All right, wonderful to be with you. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.800 Well, look, you've done something that I don't think anybody's 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.680 ever done before, which is make a a let's say, 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:48.919 pro Second Amendment, very pro Jewish action film that's in 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:53.440 the conservative sphere and doesn't look like it was made 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.159 in somebody's barn. It is a real movie, and I 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.080 want to say congratulations. I truly enjoyed it. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.480 Thank you so much, really appreciated. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:07.360 And just today we found out that Religion Unplugged. Wonderful 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.320 Publication issued its list of the top ten Faith based 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.520 Films of twenty twenty five, which included some big titles 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.160 like Angel Studios, The Last Rodeo and David and number 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.960 one on the list of top ten faith based films 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.080 of twenty twenty five, Guns and Moses, and the writer 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:29.639 Joseph Holmes, a Great film critic, mentioned exactly what you're saying, Kurt, 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.040 that it used to be that films. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.480 In the faith based space look kind of cheesy. 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.680 They weren't at the same quality level as Hollywood, but 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.160 they've come a long way and now you can find 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.520 films that are right up there in terms of production value, 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:47.320 star power, and sheer entertainment, and thank god Guns and 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.280 Moses is number one on that list. 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.399 Well, look, you've got some great stars on it, don'tant Monroney, 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:58.920 Neil McDonough who people remember from Justified and Band of Brothers. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.760 He's always effect they're great in this thing. But your star, 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:09.000 the main character is a very nice, very kind, seems 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:14.320 like maybe even on a little liberal rabbi in a 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.080 small community, and he undergoes some changes and ends up 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:24.240 being a you know, packing heat, and the actor is 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:29.520 so fantastic you buy the entire transition of this character, 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.680 and he's a lot of fun to be around. He's 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.440 not a cardboard cutout, though. 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:35.400 Not at all. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:39.280 So the actor Mark Forrestein plays the character Rabbi mo Zaltzman. 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.120 And I know a lot of people in the audience, 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.040 you know, served in the armed forces, or serve in 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:48.280 law enforcement, and they take seriously the idea of using 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.120 a firearm. You know, in Hollywood, it's so ridiculous. When 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.679 somebody needs to learn how to shoot. They put a 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.320 few tin cans on a fence. He misses the first one, 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.000 hits the next one, and you know, in fifteen seconds 0:19:59.040 --> 0:19:59.879 he's a dead shot. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.120 That's not the real world. It's very difficult to. 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:06.080 Handle a firearm properly and safely and effectively under that 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:06.920 kind of pressure. 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:07.760 God forbid. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.399 And so we take the Rabbi through real training in 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.639 the movie, based on my own real world training. I 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.879 didn't grow up around guns, but you know, in the 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.280 threat level to the Jewish people has been rising so 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.840 fast and so hard in recent years. I joined the 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.959 volunteer security organization. I learned how to use and carry 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.359 a firearm. I have my concealed carry permit. Please God, 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.440 none of us should ever have a need to use 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.119 these skills, but if we do, we will not be 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.679 a soft target. And we depict that on screen for 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.560 the big screen with Rabbi Mo and Guns and Moses. 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:46.000 Well solid back again, director of Guns and Moses. What 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.280 I thought was interesting, Well, look, all the problems don't 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.359 get solved with a gun, Okay. I mean, it's not 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:55.000 like Panama Rat where everything gets sold with a gun. 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:59.200 I thought was very interesting the way the character interacted 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:06.320 with a young man who had embraced radical hate group ideology, 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:10.879 and I found that interaction was actually very moving. 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:13.400 Yeah. 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.119 So the way it is a murder mystery guns to 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:19.239 most is the murder mystery, and there's a killing at 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:20.760 it at a synagogue. 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.520 Event right in the first scene, and. 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.600 The cops arrest a young white nationalist who has made 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.520 harassing remarks to the rabbi and his people in the past. 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:31.200 They find the murder weapon in his car. It's obvious 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.360 he did it. Case closed, but it doesn't smell right 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.240 to the rabbi, and since the cops won't investigate, he does. 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.560 And so you have this incredibly unusual situation that it's 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.639 a rabbi who's the only one who believes in the 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.880 innocence of a young white nationalist and who goes out 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:50.600 to find the real killer. And this kid, who you know, 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.080 ends up hating Jews has probably never met a Jew 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.200 in his life, and so much of that is going on. 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:58.520 There are people out there who benefit by stoking hatred, 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.200 and the kid was radicalized online. But the Rabbi can 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:06.040 see past, you know, this kind of superficial hatred and see, 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:07.680 you know, there's a young man there, there's a real 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:08.280 kid there. 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.080 He's got a heart and he can be reached. 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:11.320 You know. 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.800 So often I think when people break bread together, they 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:18.640