WEBVTT - A Tale of Two Revolutions + AMA 274

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro

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<v Speaker 1>American student organization in the country, fighting for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Of our republic.

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<v Speaker 1>My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

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<v Speaker 1>If the most important thing for you is just feeling good,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to end up miserable.

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<v Speaker 2>But if the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College

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<v Speaker 1>is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your

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<v Speaker 3>All right, welcome everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>It is Friday, August seventh, twenty twenty six. We are

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<v Speaker 4>here at the y Reefi Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. How

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<v Speaker 4>we doing, Blake, We're doing lovely. It is a It's

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<v Speaker 4>a glorious Arizona morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I will tell you, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to the glorious Arizona morning yesterday because it

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<v Speaker 2>was actually kind of cool. It was only like seventy degrees.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there all beef with Arizona that it's too cold?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean seventy degrees is a good temperature. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not too cold Arizona, which is anytime you step into

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<v Speaker 2>a supermarket.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, we have much to cover, and I want

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<v Speaker 4>to get into the current situation on the left. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>the current situation. I was on with Jesse Waters last night.

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<v Speaker 4>It's always nice when he brings me on.

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<v Speaker 3>And there is a civil war brewing on the American

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<v Speaker 3>political left.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>There is the establishment Dems. There are the rising we'll

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<v Speaker 4>call them the Young Turks because it ties in of

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<v Speaker 4>the DSA and now there are news reports that the

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<v Speaker 4>Establishment Dems are about to dump fifteen million dollars into

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<v Speaker 4>trying to unseat these people.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a story that broke on.

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<v Speaker 4>A NBC about a paid influencer campaign that was behind

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<v Speaker 4>Hailey Stevens trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Take at El Sayed.

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<v Speaker 4>You even saw the same electioneering that was used against

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump in twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. Possibly

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<v Speaker 4>we can't prove it yet, but it certainly has all

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<v Speaker 4>the earmarks and hallmarks of the electioneering campaign where they

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<v Speaker 4>stuff drop boxes and they released their votes laid especially

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<v Speaker 4>in the black precincts to beat el Sayed. Hailey Stevens

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<v Speaker 4>ended up falling short. Nevertheless, we know that the establishment

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<v Speaker 4>was not super ready to cozy up with their radicals.

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<v Speaker 4>And last night when I was on Jesse Waters, I

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<v Speaker 4>made a point and I got tons of feedback on it,

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<v Speaker 4>which leads me to believe that probably I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>to bring in Blake as the resident historian. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to do an actual multi part series on this.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's start here. I am of the belief that

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States of America, the Conservative Party, the

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<v Speaker 4>Conservative movement are the inheritors, the believers, the transmitters of

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<v Speaker 4>the ideals of the American Revolution, which is life, liberty,

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<v Speaker 4>and the pursuit of happiness. Now, originally that was life,

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<v Speaker 4>liberty and property. We believe in property rights. We believe

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<v Speaker 4>in your ability to own things and to have the

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<v Speaker 4>freedom to trade, sell, buy. All of those things are

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<v Speaker 4>your freedoms and God given freedoms. By the way, now,

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<v Speaker 4>the French Revolution does not believe in that. They have

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<v Speaker 4>egalatee fraternity, liberty, egality, e galitate, egalitarianism, equal What do

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<v Speaker 4>we always hear from the American left? Equality, equality, equity, equity.

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<v Speaker 4>The animal spirits of the American Revolution are alive and well.

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<v Speaker 4>On the conservative side, we wish they were more alive

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<v Speaker 4>at times, And the animal spirits unleashed in the French

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<v Speaker 4>Revolution are alive and well in the modern progressive left movement.

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<v Speaker 4>One gave birth to the greatest country in the history

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<v Speaker 4>of the world, the strongest, the most prosperous, the most equal.

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<v Speaker 4>The other gave birth to the French Revolution, which ended

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<v Speaker 4>in a bloody terror. Now Blake has ultimately worked out.

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<v Speaker 2>Is probably the most complicated topic in world history.

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<v Speaker 4>Edmund Burke, the famous political philosopher from the mother country.

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<v Speaker 3>Was he Scottish?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe he might have been Scottish. Either way, he

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<v Speaker 4>was from mother England. The point is he basically became

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<v Speaker 4>one of the most famous political philosophers in the world

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<v Speaker 4>because he was a strong critic of the French Revolutions

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<v Speaker 4>and the ideas that undergirded that movement and led to

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<v Speaker 4>the bloody terror. I made the other point, and I

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<v Speaker 4>remember Charlie making this from time to time. Robespierre was

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<v Speaker 4>one of the leaders, the main figures in the French Revolution.

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<v Speaker 4>He was led ultimately to a bloody guillotine death of

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<v Speaker 4>beheading by the same movement that he inspired, and they

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<v Speaker 4>cheered his demise, and they should have. And that is,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, the Democrat Party probably has this comment.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a perfect analog for the Democrat Party in

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<v Speaker 4>the establishment. They engineered every step along the way. And Blake,

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<v Speaker 4>you have a great take on this. Two times they

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<v Speaker 4>blocked Bernie Sanders, and now they get Bernie Sanders on steroids.

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<v Speaker 4>They get Mom Donnie, they get LSI Ed, they get Hong,

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<v Speaker 4>they get and there by the way, they get Chevalier.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a lot of these people that are coming

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<v Speaker 4>up through the ranks. They embrace third worldism, they embrace

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<v Speaker 4>racial grievances, they embraced assassination culture, they refuse to police

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<v Speaker 4>their own when Charlie was assassinated. All of these things

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<v Speaker 4>are eerily reminiscent of a movement in the French Revolution.

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<v Speaker 4>And now you've got the young upstarts telling the establishment

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<v Speaker 4>Dems how it's going to be. Here's David Hogg.

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<v Speaker 5>Two, what would you say to the moderates in your party?

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<v Speaker 6>Who would it to the moners our party? You need

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<v Speaker 6>to figure out how to actually offer something new to

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<v Speaker 6>voters that isn't just the same message that you gave

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<v Speaker 6>them in twenty twenty four. Increasingly, the reason why the

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<v Speaker 6>establishment of our party is being defeated over and over

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<v Speaker 6>and over again is it's because you don't have the

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<v Speaker 6>right values that are aligned with not the democratic base

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<v Speaker 6>that the American people were.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe David Hogg is a radical because he's he's angry

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<v Speaker 2>he's not getting better reception.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's got terrible reception. David, How you gotta work

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<v Speaker 4>on that bush League. But even worse than that, who

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<v Speaker 4>do you see out front campaigning with all of these

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<v Speaker 4>people Hassan Piker. And if you hear us bring up

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<v Speaker 4>his name, it's because he is so beyond the pale

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<v Speaker 4>he should be disqualifying for anybody. Should they embrace his endorsement,

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<v Speaker 4>they should disavow his endorsement. This is Hassan Piker. He's

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<v Speaker 4>the same Hassan Piker, by the way, who said that

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<v Speaker 4>America deserved nine to eleven, that Rick Scott should be murdered,

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<v Speaker 4>that capitalist blood should spill the streets, murder those m efforts,

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<v Speaker 4>he said. He's also joked about the assassination of President Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>saying someone has to do it. And instead of policing

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<v Speaker 4>this crook, this absolute cretan, they go out and campaign

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<v Speaker 4>with him. And here's what Hassan Piker is saying. Now

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<v Speaker 4>listen to this. How insane, this is sop four.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm one hundred percent closer to the prison abolition is

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<v Speaker 7>perspective than the average Americans framework on this issue, because

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<v Speaker 7>oh my god, you guys literally fantasize about the violent

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<v Speaker 7>crimes that someone might have committed, and you fantasize further

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<v Speaker 7>about how you need to create an equal avenges structure.

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<v Speaker 7>Americans sometimes literally feel Americans sometimes literally feel like they

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<v Speaker 7>want to be the rapist murderers.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so that's Hassan Piker saying he's pro abolishing prisons

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<v Speaker 4>because Americans have a fetishize or fantasize about becoming either

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<v Speaker 4>a rapists themselves or getting raped. That we deserve this

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<v Speaker 4>because we're fantasizing about crime.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it makes sense he would say that, because

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<v Speaker 2>if you really want to get at the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>why the left love's abolishing prisons, normal people want prisons

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<v Speaker 2>because they can imagine themselves being a victim of crime,

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<v Speaker 2>and they sympathize with the victim of crime. The left

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<v Speaker 2>they sympathize with the criminal, and they can easily imagine

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<v Speaker 2>themselves doing the same things, and so they wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to prison.

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<v Speaker 3>No, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and I also think it's because somebody like Hassan Piker,

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<v Speaker 4>who was born in America, yes, but then raised in Turkey,

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<v Speaker 4>harbors a deep disdain for the American people. He wants

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<v Speaker 4>you to be victimized, he wants you to be murdered

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<v Speaker 4>in the streets, he wants you to be raped because

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<v Speaker 4>he actually hates you and he hates this country. And

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<v Speaker 4>this is the man that is going around campaigning with

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<v Speaker 4>all of these crazy dsas. It is the spirit of

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<v Speaker 4>the French Revolution alive and well in a singular political party,

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<v Speaker 4>and it is consuming that party, and the host establishment

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<v Speaker 4>Dems are powerless to stop it. God help us all.

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<v Speaker 4>So one of the reasons I think this is really interesting, Blake,

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<v Speaker 4>is because we're starting to see the contours of this

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<v Speaker 4>movement from Politico, the DSA movement. As results continue to

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<v Speaker 4>come in Michigan's hotly contested Senate Senate race again that

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<v Speaker 4>was l Sied versus Haley Stevens, a class divide is emerging.

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<v Speaker 4>L Cied is performing best in places with higher incomes

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<v Speaker 4>and education levels, while Stevens is doing better in more

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<v Speaker 4>working class areas. So this all made me think of

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<v Speaker 4>something that you brought up. And by the way, we

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<v Speaker 4>could throw that graphic up if we have it. You

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned this term on our thought crime show of lower elites. Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>explain what you mean by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so it's like it says he's doing best with

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<v Speaker 2>people who have higher incomes, higher education levels, and that

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<v Speaker 2>often it might pop into your head, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>really rich people who are running it. But it's really

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<v Speaker 2>not like that. It's often what you might call people

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<v Speaker 2>who feel like who are actually doing decently well but

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<v Speaker 2>feel they should be doing a lot better. You might say,

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<v Speaker 2>like downwardly mobile elites. So maybe they grew up upper

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<v Speaker 2>middle class, they grew up in a nice house in

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<v Speaker 2>the suburbs, they got it, they went to school, got

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of education, but then what they thought their

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<v Speaker 2>life was going to be never quite panned out. So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they got a PhD, but they never became a

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<v Speaker 2>distinguished college professor. They're just doing postdoc after postdoc, or

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<v Speaker 2>they're an associate faculty member who's never going to get

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<v Speaker 2>a tenure track a nonprofit, yeah, or working at a

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<v Speaker 2>nonprofit making seventy k, but they think they should be

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<v Speaker 2>making a lot more, a lot of that. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>great article in The New York's The New York Are

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<v Speaker 2>about Subarus socialists, they call them, and those people are

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<v Speaker 2>objectively actually middle class. They probably if you know two

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<v Speaker 2>people making seventy k each, that's higher than the American

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<v Speaker 2>meeting average, but they'll often feel like they're not getting ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if they grew up making even more in a

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<v Speaker 2>household making even more. And so these are the people

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<v Speaker 2>who are the absolute shock troops of the Democratic Party. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>perfect way to predict a Democrat voter is someone who

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<v Speaker 2>has a graduate degree or a PhD, making between thirty

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty thousand dollars a year. That's not a person

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<v Speaker 2>who's an outright poverty That is not a person who

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<v Speaker 2>is starving, but it is a person who feels super

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<v Speaker 2>frustrated about their life and they're smart enough to feel

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<v Speaker 2>tons of complicated resentment about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and you were bringing up ties to maybe the

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<v Speaker 4>Bolshevik Revolution, Yes, you're bringing up yeah, exactly, relate to

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<v Speaker 4>those movements.

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<v Speaker 2>In the exactly. And if you look almost any revolution,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll have famous revolutions, but they're rarely just like a

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<v Speaker 2>peasant uprising, you almost always need someone who is an

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<v Speaker 2>angry elite, or a frustrated elite, or like a kicked

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<v Speaker 2>out elite. So the Bolsheviks, a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 2>reading that, they're pretty smart people. They're maybe the children

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<v Speaker 2>of priests, they're the children of like merchants, capitalists who

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<v Speaker 2>got radicalized against the system and decided they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>blow it up, and then they whip up the workers

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<v Speaker 2>to support them. The French Revolution. Robespierre was Robespierre's job,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know, I don't. Robespierre was a rural French lawyer. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and tons of lawyers in the French Revolution, tons of

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<v Speaker 2>the lower bourgeoisie. Fascinating. Yeah, So Robespierre was not an

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<v Speaker 2>angry peasant. Robespierre was not a he was not a

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<v Speaker 2>starving guy. He was a highly educated, capable person who

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<v Speaker 2>was elected to the Assembly when they first had it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he had a bunch of really radical ideas that

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<v Speaker 2>he put into practice. And those are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys who are the most radical in that revolution.

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<v Speaker 4>It isn't too far to say that oftentimes these radical

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<v Speaker 4>left leaning revolutions are powered by the resentment of the

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<v Speaker 4>lower elites.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and a thing I think about a lot that

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<v Speaker 2>might drive a lot of radicalism. Think about how America

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<v Speaker 2>has been historically. It's been very decentralized. So our capital

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<v Speaker 2>historically has not been that big. Washington, d C. Was

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<v Speaker 2>not even one of our ten largest cities for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, and you had New York is big, but

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<v Speaker 2>compare New York size to how big the country is overall,

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<v Speaker 2>it's surprisingly small. Compared to say, like Tokyo. Tokyo is

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger city than New York in a country that's

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<v Speaker 2>one third the size of ours. London has almost as

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<v Speaker 2>many people as New York, and Britain only as sixty

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<v Speaker 2>million people, not three hundred million. So you have New York, LA,

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<v Speaker 2>you have Houston, you have Seattle, we have widely distributed cities,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of There's like a lot of room to be

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<v Speaker 2>elite in America historically, and what have we seen. We've

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<v Speaker 2>seen centralization. More jobs are in just a few cities.

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<v Speaker 2>Now everyone moves to New York, to Austin, to the

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Area, to DC and there's not as many jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not as much ability to be an elite in America. Plus,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the Internet, which is making it easier for

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<v Speaker 2>you to feel like you're behind because someone you see

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<v Speaker 2>on the Internet is getting ahead of ale.

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<v Speaker 4>All social anxiety for young women is based on comparing

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<v Speaker 4>themselves to other waes exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So now instead of comparing yourself to your neighbor, you're

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<v Speaker 2>comparing yourself to the planet. You're comparing yourself to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet. It's so much easier to feel frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>and let down. It's so much easier to feel I

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<v Speaker 2>should have more in my life and I don't have it,

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<v Speaker 2>and those sorts of disappointments and resentments are the kernel

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<v Speaker 2>that can build a lot of radical political movements.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so when we think about who is supporting this movement,

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<v Speaker 4>the rise of the DSA, it is twofold. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>rise of the It's the resentment of the lower elites,

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<v Speaker 4>the white typically educated lower elites that are smart enough

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<v Speaker 4>to work the system and smart enough to have very

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<v Speaker 4>complicated resentment structure.

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<v Speaker 2>And think of another type that you're getting people who

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<v Speaker 2>are think about like olsaied types, A lot of immigrants.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's the group.

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<v Speaker 4>The other group is the immigrants, the children of immigrants.

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<v Speaker 4>L say Ed is a guy that yes, he was

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<v Speaker 4>again born in America, this pesky birthright citizenship that President Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, is trying once again to get rid of.

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<v Speaker 4>But he was raised in many ways in Egypt. He

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<v Speaker 4>spent his summers, he was summering in Egypt.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's super common for these galas their parents might

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<v Speaker 2>have gotten far more elite in their home country than

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<v Speaker 2>they are in America. Lots of really to have resentment

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<v Speaker 2>about that resentment that you're in this other country rather

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<v Speaker 2>than running your homeland. There are so many ways to

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<v Speaker 2>build up a giant ball of anger and resentment and

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<v Speaker 2>then say, well, well, actually I'm just I'm angry because

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<v Speaker 2>the system is rigged against me.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is the bifurcated American body politic. The conservative

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<v Speaker 4>movement embraces free markets, property ownership, the rule of law,

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<v Speaker 4>equality before the law, and liberty. The radical left embraces

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<v Speaker 4>the Bolshevik spirit, the French revolutionary spirit of equity, equality

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<v Speaker 4>of murderousness, of seizing the means of production, taking from

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<v Speaker 4>you if they don't think you're doing it right, and

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<v Speaker 4>that ultimately is being powered by the lower elites, the

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<v Speaker 4>highly educated, not so accomplished, resentful elites, and then powered

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<v Speaker 4>by a mountain of new immigrants and their children that

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<v Speaker 4>we brought in.

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<v Speaker 4>Todd Nettleton with the Voice of the Martyrs, host of

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<v Speaker 4>the Voice of the Martyrs radio for twenty years, has

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<v Speaker 4>traveled the world interviewed hundreds and hundreds of Christians who've

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<v Speaker 4>been persecuted in the name of Jesus. Now he's inviting

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<v Speaker 4>you to come along and meet bold believers whose faith

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<v Speaker 4>will inspire you to a deeper walk with Christ. So

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<v Speaker 4>you get this, this is grab your passport and come

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<v Speaker 4>along on a forty day journey. And if you're curious

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm reading, this is his book When Faith is Forbidden.

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<v Speaker 4>Forty days on the front lines with persecuted Christians. It says,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll meet brothers and sisters who refuse to deny Christ

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<v Speaker 4>despite being beaten, imprisoned, or even killed for their faith.

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<v Speaker 4>When Faith is Forbidden will introduce you to a Chinese

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<v Speaker 4>Christian woman who called six months in prison a wonderful time.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll go through arm checkpoints to meet it in Iraqi

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<v Speaker 4>pastor praising God just eight days after an assassin's.

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<v Speaker 2>Bullet ripped through his flesh.

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll sit down for a cup of tea with

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<v Speaker 4>others from our Christian family in Iran. Eritrea, Turkey, Jordan,

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<v Speaker 4>and other nations. Each stop on this forty day journey

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<v Speaker 4>will provide inspiration and encouragement through the story of a

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<v Speaker 4>persecuted believer. You'll also find space for reflection and suggested

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<v Speaker 4>prayers as you grow to understand the realities of living

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<v Speaker 4>under persecution.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful, beautiful book.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, this is really important to us because I believe

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie was a Christian martyr, and I believe he's a

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<v Speaker 4>modern day Founding Father. I believe that any sort of

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<v Speaker 4>praise for the life that he lived and we got

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<v Speaker 4>to see it behind the scenes, is warranted. He was

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<v Speaker 4>a man of incredible integrity and awesome, powerful, courageous faith.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I have told the team that I want

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<v Speaker 4>one of the things that we constantly bring up on

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<v Speaker 4>this show to be paying attention to Christians, whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>in Nigeria, whether it's in Iran, which we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about with Todd. Once we get the tech issue

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<v Speaker 4>worked out, that we focus on their stories because that

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<v Speaker 4>is one of our mandates as.

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<v Speaker 3>Christians to remember the persecuted church.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I hope that once we get him on

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<v Speaker 4>that we are going to be able to inspire you

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<v Speaker 4>to continue thinking about these things, to continue praying for

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<v Speaker 4>your brothers and sisters around the world that are living

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<v Speaker 4>their faith boldly and loudly despite incredible, incredible prices.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we went through COVID, we saw sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the first intimations of what anti Christian repression in the

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<v Speaker 2>US could look like, which is, for health reasons, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't assemble with other believers. We saw the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 2>start sending these FBI guys to lurk in Catholic masses

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<v Speaker 2>because that's a sinister thing, and that was all bad,

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<v Speaker 2>very bad, and an American Yet at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>we should remember we have it very easy in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States compared to a lot of places. There are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of countries and a lot of Islamic countries.

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<v Speaker 2>Converting to Christianity legally in the statue book carries the

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<v Speaker 2>death penalty. In a lot of countries, if it is

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<v Speaker 2>rumored that you are a Christian or that you are

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<v Speaker 2>sympathetic to Christians, whatever the law says, you can face

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<v Speaker 2>mob violence, you can face vigilante justice from people. That

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<v Speaker 2>is the reality in huge chunks of Pakistan, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Iran, a lot certainly a lot of Africa. You

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<v Speaker 2>can be kidnapped, you can be enslaved, you can be

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<v Speaker 2>tortured because you are a Christian.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and the other aspect of this is that we're

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<v Speaker 4>importing this into our country while we're waiting for Todd

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<v Speaker 4>and the tech. This is Rokana talking about how great

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<v Speaker 4>l Saied is. I don't worry about the fact he's

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<v Speaker 4>a Muslim. Think about that. How American it is that

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<v Speaker 4>this must some boy could rise up?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay six.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, when it comes to Muslim America, shouldn't we christ

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<v Speaker 8>be celebrating put aside Abdul's politics. Where else can you

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<v Speaker 8>have a son of immigrants, a Muslim American Abdul, and

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<v Speaker 8>you have Michigan electing him in a primary. That should say, Wow,

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<v Speaker 8>America is extraordinary, that we're overcoming barriers of race and religion,

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<v Speaker 8>and that this country, unlike a lot of other countries,

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<v Speaker 8>you can be of different backgrounds and the people will

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<v Speaker 8>still give you a chance. You know, don't and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the demonization of him, attacking him on that is about

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<v Speaker 8>the dumbest political strategy.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't disagree with Rocana more. But it doesn't surprise

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<v Speaker 4>me because that's Rocana. The Islam coming into the country

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<v Speaker 4>is a terrible development because it is incompatible with Western values,

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<v Speaker 4>with Christendom, and we are inheritors of the Western tradition,

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<v Speaker 4>which is Christendom. And so when we we this trojan horse,

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<v Speaker 4>they've told us what they plan to do. And we

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<v Speaker 4>talked about this with Nate Friedman yesterday. Sure one thee

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<v Speaker 4>to or increase their power until they can overcome our

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<v Speaker 4>civic secular system.

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<v Speaker 2>We have them, We have them.

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<v Speaker 4>Todd, Welcome to the show, Todd Nettleton, Voice of the

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<v Speaker 4>Martyrs and your amazing new book, When Faith Is Forbidden.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for joining us. I'm so excited to have you,

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe just start with your book, why you wrote

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<v Speaker 4>it and what people need to know about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I've had the privilege for the last twenty eight

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<v Speaker 5>years of serving a Voice of the Martyrs and traveling

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<v Speaker 5>all over the world to sit down with persecuted Christians

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<v Speaker 5>and hear their stories and ask them questions, and inevitably,

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<v Speaker 5>when I get back, I begin to share some of

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<v Speaker 5>those stories, and I'll have somebody in my Sunday school

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<v Speaker 5>class or my Bible study group who says, hey, I

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<v Speaker 5>want to go on a trip with you, can I

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<v Speaker 5>come and that I can't always take people to some

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<v Speaker 5>of the places where Voice of the Martyrs is working,

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<v Speaker 5>but you can come through the pages of this book.

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<v Speaker 5>And so what I've done here is collected forty of

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<v Speaker 5>the most powerful stories that I've heard from persecuted Christians.

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<v Speaker 5>And the book is written sort of as a travelogue. Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>why don't you come with me.

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<v Speaker 9>We're going to go on a.

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<v Speaker 5>Forty day journey together, and every day we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>sit down with a persecuted Christian. We're going to hear

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<v Speaker 5>their story of faithfulness under trial and suffering. And my

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<v Speaker 5>promise to you is when we get back from this

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<v Speaker 5>trip on day forty one, your faith is going to

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<v Speaker 5>look different because when you hang out with persecuted Christians,

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<v Speaker 5>when you hear their stories, you can't help but be inspired.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, this all makes me think about Iran

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<v Speaker 4>because it's in the news right People don't realize this.

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<v Speaker 4>There are Christians in Iran, and I'm curious, like what,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, how has this war affected them?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, everybody in Iran right now is suffering because

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 5>the economy is completely in shambles. You know, maybe you're

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 5>an electrician b but you can't get wire, you can't

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<v Speaker 5>get supplies, so what do you do? How do you

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<v Speaker 5>go to work? That is affecting Christians as well, but

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 5>they are choosing to tune this into an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 5>be a witness. And one of the things that happens

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 5>during wartime when people are dying around you, people are

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 5>thinking about eternity, and so Christians are using this as

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 5>an opportunity to say, hey, let's talk about eternity. Let's

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<v Speaker 5>talk about how you can know where you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>go after you die. So even in the midst of

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 5>the suffering that's happening, they're using it as an opportunity

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 5>to keep growing the church.

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<v Speaker 2>So we know about the IRGC, that's a military force

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 2>we're engaging in war with, but obviously it's associated with

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 2>the Islamic Revolution. So Christians in Iran, do they face

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<v Speaker 2>persecution by the IRGC, by these state or Paris state elements,

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Like what happens to them? What sort of violence or

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 2>other threats do they have to worry about?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Christians are targeted, and you know, it's interesting the

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<v Speaker 5>perception in Iran of America is America is a Christian nation,

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 5>and so you know, whatever happens in America, that's what

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 5>Christians do because it's a Christian nation. So if you're

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 5>in Iran and you're an Iranian Christian, you are kind

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 5>of seen as a trader to your own country. You're

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 5>seen as an ally to America. So as the war

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 5>has started and as the fighting has gone on, Iranian

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 5>Christians are seen as being sympathetic at best and traders

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<v Speaker 5>at worst to the enemy, to the people who are attacking,

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 5>and so they are being singled out. We know of

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 5>Christians who have been arrested, We know of Christians who

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 5>have been interrogated, taken to jail, even beaten, even tortured

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 5>during this time because they are seen as allies of America,

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 5>allies of Israel, as opposed to being loyal citizens of Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I know one of the things that you

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<v Speaker 4>guys do, I got forty seconds in this segment, but

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<v Speaker 4>you send Bibles all over the world, You send them

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, really really rough spots, and I know

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 4>that you've sent them to Iran. If they found like

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 4>a Christian Bible on you, on your person and your home,

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 4>do they face consequences for that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, having a Bible in the language Farsie, the national

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 5>language of Iran, is the illegal, so that you've broken

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 5>the law by having that Bible. I just heard a

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 5>story this week from one of our partners helping deliver

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<v Speaker 5>Bibles into Iran.

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<v Speaker 3>One of their workers just.

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<v Speaker 5>Came out of fifty eight days incarcerated because they found

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 5>him with Farsi Bibles, and in their minds that meant, hey,

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 5>he's a trader, He's connected to America, he's connected to outsiders.

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 2>He said.

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<v Speaker 5>Every single day they interrogated him, they beat him severely.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, they beat him on the bottoms of his feet, which,

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<v Speaker 5>for those of us a voice of the martyrs, hearkens

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<v Speaker 5>back to our founder Richard Wermbrand, also beaten on the

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 5>bottoms of his feet by the Communists in Romania. But

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 5>this man said he never broke He never gave up

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 5>the names of any other Christians, any of the people

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 5>he was working with. The Other thing, he said, is

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 5>I am closer to Jesus now than I've ever been.

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 5>That suffering experience pushed him closer to christ.

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 4>I have a friend who's actually been on the show

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 4>before that experienced similar things. He's actually working to get

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 4>starlinks into Iran so that they can access internet and

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 4>things like that.

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>But he was.

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Beaten in Pakistan for training up missionaries in Pakistan.

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<v Speaker 4>So stay right there, Todd. I hope this is encouraging you,

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 4>even as terrible as it is, that there are people

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 4>willing to stand on their faith in the most trying

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 4>and terrible situations. Todd, this is a So we kind

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 4>of went through some bad stuff in the first part

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 4>of our interview, but this is so often, you know,

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 4>we hear that expression that the blood of the martyrs

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 4>is the seat of the church. Is this true that

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<v Speaker 4>Iran has the fastest growing Christian church in the world

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<v Speaker 4>right now?

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Is that possible?

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 5>It is true, and that has been the case for

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 5>the last several years. The fastest growing church in the

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 5>Islamic Republic of Iran. I like to say the full

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 5>name of the country when I say that. And you know,

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 5>one of the interesting things about that is, well, the

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 5>natural question, well, what's driving that? What is driving that

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 5>is the Islamic government of Iran Because since nineteen seventy nine,

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 5>the Islamic Revolution, the Mullahs took over the government and

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 5>their promise to the Iranian people was we are going

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 5>to run our country according to Islamic principles. If the

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 5>Quran tells us to do it, that's exactly what we're

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 5>going to do.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 2>And we're now, you.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 5>Know, forty plus years later, and the economies in shambles.

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 5>Iran has one of the highest drug addiction rates in

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 5>the world. The people see the corruption in the government

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 5>and they say, well, if this is what it looks

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 5>like after you follow Islamic principles, we don't want to

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 5>follow Islamic principles.

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 3>We want to do something different.

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 5>And so that's part of the reason the gospel is

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 5>spreading so quickly, the church is growing. I've actually had

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 5>Irani and Christians tell me the greatest Christian missionary in

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 5>the history of Iran was the Iatola Komani, the leader.

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Of the Islamic Revolution.

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 2>And You're like, well, wait a minute.

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 5>He wasn't even a Christian, but they say, yeah, but

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 5>he showed the true face of Islam, and now the

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 5>people want something different.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, first, the fact that it's the fastest growing

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Christian church I'm assuming per capita, but I don't know,

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 4>maybe I wonder about that.

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Just how do you how do you measure this other

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>reliable ways we can see this in practice, like how

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>do we unreach that conclusion because it's a closed country.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 5>Of course, it is a close country, and so it

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 5>is difficult, and many of these Christians are isolated. They

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 5>are getting the gospel through social media, they're getting the

0:30:56.080 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 5>gospel through satellite television, They're not necessarily gathering with US believers.

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 3>But several years.

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<v Speaker 5>Ago, I believe it was a Dutch company that actually

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<v Speaker 5>did a survey, a very broad survey of the Iranian population,

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 5>and they came up with some of these numbers that are,

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 5>like you say, they are startling how much the church

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 5>has grown, how many Iranians say that they're Christians.

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the other things that that is meaning inside

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 5>Iran is is so many people are disaffected with Islam

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 5>that oftentimes if a person comes to faith, they don't

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 5>necessarily face the first line of persecution from their family,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 5>which typical in the Muslim world. Your first line of

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 5>persecution is going to be your dad, your big brother,

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 5>somebody who comes and says, hey, we're a Muslim family.

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 5>If you say you're not a Muslim, you're not part

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 5>of us anymore. In Iran, so many people have rejected Islam,

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 5>and so many people are dissatisfied with Islam that oftentimes

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:53.800
<v Speaker 5>the family will be like, oh well, hey, if that

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 5>works for you, great, that's fine. So you don't have

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 5>that family person. Now that's not always true. There are

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 5>certainly stories of family persecution, but it is not as

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 5>prevalent in Iran as it is in other parts of

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 5>the Muslim world.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well so that's I mean, the personal stories are

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 4>really powerful. You have some of these in your book

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 4>here of Iranian Christians. You know, what are they like?

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 4>What are they telling you? What did you learn from him?

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>One of the things that they are is they are bold,

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 5>and they have they have grabbed a hold of Christ

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 5>in such a real way that they cannot be talked

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 5>out of it. They cannot be you cannot beat him

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 5>out of them. They are going to follow Jesus. They've

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 5>experienced him. And one of the stories I tell in

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 5>my book is the story of a man who he said,

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 5>as he started to tell me a story, he said,

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 5>now I want you to understand I'm a very competitive person.

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 5>I said, okay, well you know that's fine, and he said, no, no, no,

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 5>I'm very competitive, he said. You know, when I was

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 5>in the army, I wanted to be a martyr for

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 5>all within the next twenty four hours, I wanted to

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 5>be a martyr.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 3>He said.

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 5>When I was a drug addict, I wanted to use

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 5>more drug than any of the other drug addicts were

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 5>using because I wanted to be the best drug addict.

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 5>And he said, you know, that addiction took him literally

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 5>to the point of death, and God rescued him. He

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 5>had a miraculous supernatural experience where he met Jesus Christ.

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 5>Jesus Christ took away that addiction and healed him from

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 5>that addiction. And then that competitive nature turned in a

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 5>different direction because now he wants to be the best

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 5>disciple that Jesus has ever had, and he wants to

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 5>be the best evangelist. He wants to talk to every

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 5>single person he meets about Jesus Christ.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I tell in the book, if you

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 3>do that.

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 5>Inside Iran, pretty soon you're going to be in a

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 5>police station or you're going to be in a jail cell.

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 5>And he even shared a story of leading someone to

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 5>Christ inside the police station. And so he is determined

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 5>to be the best disciple that Jesus has ever had.

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 3>That's so great.

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 4>And I heard some similar stories from Pakistan, especially when

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 4>Charlie was assassinated that. I mean, do you think that

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 4>the running Christians did they hear about this? I know

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 4>it's a close I'm assuming they heard it. Seems like

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.719
<v Speaker 4>everybody on planet Earth did. But did did you hear

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 4>any of that?

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Did they?

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Were they inspired by his life in that way?

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't heard stories like that, and I don't know

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 5>how much you know. There would be summer audience that

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 5>would certainly be in tune with international news. There would

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 5>be some that are completely cut off, but I haven't

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 5>heard those stories yet.

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, I would love for you to ask about them,

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:28.439
<v Speaker 4>because my pastor friend was training missionaries in Pakistan said

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 4>they were like bold as lions right after Charlie was killed.

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 4>And I hope that people in this audience and that

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 4>love Charlie and that followed the show that followed turning Point,

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 4>that you would have a special place in your heart

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 4>for martyrs and supporting voice of the martyrs.

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 2>And what they're doing.

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 4>And we wanted to make it an option so people

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 4>can get your book, Todd. So the if you go

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 4>to VOM Voice of the Martyrs vom dot org slash Charlie.

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 4>You guys are making this available for everybody.

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we will send it to you for free. Just

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 5>give us your name and address. Part of our ministry

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 5>is telling these stories to Christians and free nations, and

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 5>that's why we give the book away for free.

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I love that so again.

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<v Speaker 4>The url is v O m dot org slash Charlie.

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 4>V O m dot org slash Charlie. Get this book please,

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, I we ask a lot of our audience.

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 4>You'll call this senator, call this congressman, you know, knock

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:34.439
<v Speaker 4>on doors. But please give your heart to the Christian Church,

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 4>the persecuted Church, the martyrs around the world, and support

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 4>the work of Voice of the Martyrs.

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:40.399
<v Speaker 3>They're great people. Thank you, Todd.

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 4>V O m dot org slash Charlie. For nearly three

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 4>thousand years, Homer's The Iliad has shaped the Western imagination.

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 4>As one of the foundational works of Western literature, it

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 4>explores permanent questions about honor, courage, leadership, friendship, justice, and

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 4>what it means to live a noble life. In one

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 4>of the epics defining moments, Achilles returns to battle after

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 4>the death of his beloved friend Patrocius, setting aside his

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie for Hillsdale dot Com. It's hour two on a Friday,

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<v Speaker 4>which means it is the ask us Anything hour.

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<v Speaker 3>We love this hour.

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<v Speaker 4>We got Danny, Danny's in the house. Danny, you know

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 4>your Cubs swept my Dodgers and.

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 10>It was pretty good.

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 2>We've got a great m VP fight between Pete Crow

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Shoeotani each had two home runs in the

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>same game. Yeah, it was. It was frustrating.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 3>We got that Scooball guy and we just went on

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 3>this six game. That's what I'm saying. Baseball is crazy.

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 4>You could have the biggest budget in all of baseball

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:22.760
<v Speaker 4>and not win the World Series.

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 3>Look at the Mets. Look at the Mets.

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 11>For the Mets are got awful a lot of people there.

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 11>There are a team, the Milwaukee Brewers have one of

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 11>the lowest payrolls in baseball.

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 3>And to look look at Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 11>Another another reason why salary cap is ridiculous because it

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 11>really doesn't. I mean, it can help you be better,

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 11>but you should not institute a salary cap, and baseball

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:45.399
<v Speaker 11>would ruin the game.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what it is. This is not what we

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 3>planned on talking about here. But let's you need a

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 3>villain in baseball.

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 4>You need, like everybody loves rooting against the Dodgers and

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 4>the Yankees.

0:37:58.400 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 2>You're right, I do.

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's no and I embrace it. You should root

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.359
<v Speaker 4>against this because we're good and we spent a lot

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 4>of money.

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<v Speaker 2>To be good.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, and none of your team is even American too, But.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's not true.

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 11>I mean that, yeah, basically, Kyle Tucker's you're only really

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 11>American player. But Fred Freeman, I mean everybody else you

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 11>just hit from Japan and all the other countries.

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Mookie Betts is American? What is your problem?

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<v Speaker 10>What do you mean the Dodgers clearly?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, apparently so you lie about him. Geez, that's not cool.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, hold on, So our first question, we have

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 4>a great question here. It's about the birthright citizenship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>oh yes, ye yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Don.

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<v Speaker 11>Ali, guys, I saw our President Trump is trying to

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<v Speaker 11>get birthright citizenship banned again.

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<v Speaker 10>I was wondering if he has the chance this time.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I was looking forward. I was wondering if

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 2>we would talk about this earlier in the show, and

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>we didn't get a chance. So I'm so glad you

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 2>asked this question. So this dropped yesterday. I believe from

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration, this is them trying to respond to

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 2>deal with the unfortunate Supreme Court ruling, which is wrong,

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>but which was wrong. But birthright citizenship is a constitutional right.

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 2>But they're trying to work with what we have, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, if you are a foreign invader, you are

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>not supposed to benefit from this. You know, invading foreign

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 2>armies is a traditional exception, and foreign ambassadors is a

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 2>traditional exception. So they're trying to work work within the

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court's ruling to get whatever give they can. And

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 2>so what we have here is they had four categories

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 2>that they say even after this ruling, they think they

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>can still ban them. So first they say, if either

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 2>parent is an alien enemy, and they define this as

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>any member of a designated foreign terrorist organization. And so

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.760
<v Speaker 2>obviously that classically means say al Qaeda was an alien

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 2>terrorist organization. But for example, if you're a member of

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 2>I believe HESBLA, we recognize that a lot of people

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 2>are members of HESBLA, amus, a lot of people are

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.359
<v Speaker 2>affiliated with a mus Muslim brother. We have a lot

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.280
<v Speaker 2>of foreign terrorist organizations and the cartels. If you're working

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 2>with a cartel, we've designated those, So if you've worked

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 2>with them, they're going to try to classify you as

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 2>an enemy alien and they'll look for those connections there.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one of the things they're going after. They're

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<v Speaker 2>also saying if you are a foreign government employee, which

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:16.760
<v Speaker 2>obviously means foreign ambassadors, but if you're a foreign national

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>who works at their embassy, they're going to classify you

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<v Speaker 2>as that. They also say, if you're part of an

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 2>international organization that has foreign organization immunities. So I think

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 2>that's like employees of the United Nations, for example, who

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 2>are from abroad, have certain special.

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Privileges, show that up with the government.

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, stuff like that. And then they also throw in

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 2>if you're taking part in birth tourism scams as they

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 2>define them, So if you're sailing into US territorial waters

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 2>to give birth, they're trying to classify that as an invasion.

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<v Speaker 2>So will this hold up. I'm pretty optimistic on the

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 2>foreign terrorist one. I think they have good grounds to

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.400
<v Speaker 2>stand on. I think our Supreme Court might rule in

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.919
<v Speaker 2>their favor on that one. I'm worried about the birth

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>tourism one. I think it's so easy to imagine John

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Roberts punting on that and going, well, Dotes, Actually that's

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<v Speaker 2>the Congress's job to decide that.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's what I think happened.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Alito or Clarence Thomas or maybe some of

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 4>their clerks went in and said, hey, craft it like this.

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 4>We were inside the deliberations, and you should craft it

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 4>like this because this will probably pass muster.

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 3>So I actually am very optimistic about it.

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm also really excited you asked this question because there's

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 4>this viral clip going around of a seventy five year

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 4>old John Gannon.

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 3>He's a lifelong Republican.

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 4>He voted for President Trump, but unfortunately for him, his

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 4>Latin lover got picked up by ICE and now he's

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 4>real upset about it. I just wanted an excuse to

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 4>play it. It's not ted I voted for Trump.

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 6>I am saying that they are picking up law and

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 6>biting citizens.

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<v Speaker 12>They're destroying families, jobs.

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 13>John Gannon is a seventy five year old businessman and

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<v Speaker 13>lifelong Republican who supported President Trump twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 14>I wouldn't do that again, not after this fiasco.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 13>His fiance, forty five year old venice Ulan immigrant Yas

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 13>Mesas Ridges, was detained by ICE at George Bush Intercontinental

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 13>Airport in Houston in late July.

0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 2>By the way, she's not he owes Trump than like

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 2>seventy five forty five year old visa overstay bride. That's

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>what it was.

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 3>That's what the post said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, who knows how old it is.

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 3>I guarantee the producers were like, let's say.

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 4>She's forty five, not thirty, because we're gonna get more

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 4>sympathy if she's forty five. No, this guy just about

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 4>fell into one of the classic traps, the gold digger trap.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that she's a gold digger. I am, yeah,

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 3>but she messing with a broke guy here. Let's just

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 3>keep it like that.

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 4>All I'm saying is, instead of being like, I'm.

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Not gonna vote for Republicans there anymore.

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you should say thank you, thank you. I bet

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 4>if this guy has kids, they are saying thank you.

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, he owes Trump a big thank you on this.

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 4>Those kids are gonna be let's hope he has like

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 4>five children and from his first wife or second one,

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 4>and they are all thanking the good Lord in heaven.

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 4>That there is a thing called ice and it picks

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 4>up illegals and it gets them the heck out of

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 4>this country, and and and the other thing we have

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 4>to correct. We have to correct air here. One of

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 4>our jobs is correct air. This guy is so self

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 4>absorbed and probably I mean, I hate to use the word,

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:34.720
<v Speaker 4>but you know, I'll try. And he's driven by his.

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Libido or whatever.

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, He that that he can't see the forest through

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 4>the trees. He cannot realize that he has been hoodwinked

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 4>by a woman that wants his money, and he now

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 4>is saying.

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't support this is okay.

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 4>I got in trouble on X last night because I

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 4>commented on this and I said, this is a generational divide.

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 4>And then you know, quickly a lot of people over

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 4>a certain age said, hey, don't care me in on that.

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm not counting you people in this audience. You are

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 4>absolutely immune from this. But when we say we want

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 4>them all out, we want them all out that. I

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 4>don't care if you have a Latin lover, I don't

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 4>care if you got a maid or something that you

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 4>think is really sweet. They are not law abiding, he said,

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 4>He says, he says she's law abiding.

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 3>No, she broke the law.

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:24.320
<v Speaker 2>She's a beast overstay.

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 3>She broke the law.

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 4>So why don't you go move to Venezuela and you

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:35.240
<v Speaker 4>can marry her there? You have options, sir John Gannon.

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.720
<v Speaker 4>You can move to Venezuela. It might become the fifty

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 4>first state if President Trump has anything to do with it.

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 4>So you could still say you're American, Yes, a hero

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 4>sympathy for these people.

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Blake thirty seconds. It's say something profound.

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Something something profound. Uh No, it's we see this sometimetime.

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Guys.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 2>In the end, our country has been stripped bare because

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>someone everyone wants their special exception. Yeah. I don't like immigration,

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 2>but like I need these lower income workers. I can't

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 2>fill these jobs. I can't get a woman who's interested

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 2>in me who's thirty years or more younger than I am. No,

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 2>just guys, our country has been picked clean by the world.

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.919
<v Speaker 2>Were able to close it off, and the people who

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:21.799
<v Speaker 2>aren't supposed to be here need to go back.

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 3>We have rules and.

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 4>You everybody wants to say the rules don't apply to me.

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 4>You are a symptom of the disease. Sir, all right,

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 4>next question, who we got?

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<v Speaker 10>We have Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan, Welcome to the Charlie Kirkshow please unmute yourself? I

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 3>did how goes? That's going? Well, it's Friday.

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 15>Good to hear.

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:41.719
<v Speaker 3>How are you doing? What can we do for you?

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.279
<v Speaker 15>Can we expect to Save America Act to pass the

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 15>for November, and we'll have the Supreme Court make mass

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 15>mail and thus encountering after election day illegal before November.

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 3>What was the second part of that?

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 11>Sorry, well, the Supreme Court make mass mail in ballots

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 11>illegal before November.

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 15>Counting after election day before.

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, they unfortunately already ruled on that counting. He

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 2>was counting them after election day. Think we got that

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 2>ruling and it was disappointing.

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Was it like five days after something?

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 2>It was it was after the arbitrary it was an

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 2>arbitrary date now, oh yeah, yeah, it was like, yeah,

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it was some number of days more than

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 2>zero but less than forty or whatever California has been

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 2>getting away with. I would have to double check it, though.

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why don't you check that?

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 4>So I actually have been texting with my senator friends.

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 4>I have one senator tell me fifty percent chance and

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 4>another one tell me twenty five percent chance likely.

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 3>And the likely is So they're.

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 4>Going to come back from their August recess, which is

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 4>really like a six month or six week recess, and

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 4>they're going to come back and they're going to basically

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 4>work for two weeks, and then they're going to take

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 4>another break because the Senate is a joke, and they're

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.719
<v Speaker 4>going to try and pass it through reconciliation, and then

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 4>they're going to have an issue with the bird bath, right,

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:59.439
<v Speaker 4>which is the Senate parliamentary and can't it get through

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 4>the Senate rules. In order to be a part of reconciliation,

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.439
<v Speaker 4>it needs to have a budgetary component to it, right,

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 4>so it needs to be tied with some sort of spending.

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:13.479
<v Speaker 4>And their gimmick to do this is the real ID.

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 4>So they are willing to grant billions of dollars to

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 4>the states to support real ID, which has already been passed,

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 4>and they would be willing to accept a real ID

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 4>which takes I mean, it's like a birth certificate. You

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 4>have to have more documentation in order to get a

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 4>real ID, but that obviously costs the state's money to

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:33.240
<v Speaker 4>issue those IDs.

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:34.440
<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of the gimmick.

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 4>The question is will it pass the parlam Senate parliamentary muster.

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Now this is a Democrat I believe that was appointed

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 4>under Harry Reid. There is precedent Trent Lott did it.

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 4>You can fire the Senate parliamentarian. Do I have any

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:54.319
<v Speaker 4>hope of John Thune firing a Senate parliamentarian if she

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:55.879
<v Speaker 4>blocks this through reconciliation?

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 3>No, I do not, So.

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 4>I would put that likelihood closer to twenty five percent.

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 4>The old that the twenty five percent is that they

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 4>write it in such a way they're careful enough that

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:11.399
<v Speaker 4>the Senate Parliamentary can't in any good faith block the

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 4>UH the passage of this through reconciliation. I just don't

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 4>have any faith in John Thune. I've openly called for

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:20.240
<v Speaker 4>him to be replaced. I think he is a coward.

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 4>I think he is not willing to confront his wayward

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 4>members and he's not willing to push them to do

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:28.439
<v Speaker 4>what the will of the people. So I have zero

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 4>faith in John Thune, and I think he's been a

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 4>complete and utter disappointment. Why don't you just call the

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 4>mode and put their make them put their names on

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 4>on the line, tell us who is against it.

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:42.400
<v Speaker 3>That's it, That's all you gotta do.

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 15>And then is there another question about what about the

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:48.320
<v Speaker 15>massmail on ballots? Will they make that illegal?

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Will remember?

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, so mass mail? So they did rule. This

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 2>was Watson versus RNC. It happened at the end of June.

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately THEYD just rule that if a ballot is

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 2>postmarked by election day, states are allowed to count them after.

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:04.919
<v Speaker 3>It's like up to five days after.

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Something I don't see in the summer rams scene. They

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 2>don't say a specifically, they.

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 11>Don't They just say up, if as long as it

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 11>was postmarked, like Illinois allows ballots up to fourteen days.

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 11>Illinois allows fourteen days after the election.

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 3>For ballots to come in if they're postmark.

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 10>If they're postmark, I mean, that's ridiculous anyway.

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 3>So unfortunately that's not gonna happen either.

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So glorious Supreme Court. I should know. They disappoint

0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 2>us a lot. But I will note because people flip

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 2>out a lot, they are the most we get the

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 2>most wins from them out of any organization, and.

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:38.839
<v Speaker 3>They're still going to pack them. I think.

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 4>I think part of the calculus with these guys is

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:43.120
<v Speaker 4>that they don't want to sort of be they don't

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 4>want to be perceived as two partisans, so they're trying

0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 4>to give wins to both sides where they feel like

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 4>they can. It doesn't matter. This is the eat me

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:53.120
<v Speaker 4>last mentality. This is what's happening to the Democrat establishment.

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:55.440
<v Speaker 4>And talked about this an hour one. They unleash all

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 4>this garbage and they're going to be consumed by all

0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 4>this garbage that they So it doesn't matter. These these

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 4>animal passions that get unleashed, they will consume the institutions

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 4>that undergird the constitutional republic upon which we you know stand.

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:13.399
<v Speaker 4>So anyways, the point is at this is the Supreme Court.

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 8>There.

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 4>If these these these animals get enough power, they will

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 4>completely pack the Supreme Court. They want to abolish the Senate,

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 4>they want to abolish the presidency.

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Now did you see this, I see this one.

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:28.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes, they're making the candidate's DSA. Candidates vow that they

0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 4>will work to a. I mean, you basically have to

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:34.880
<v Speaker 4>tear down the entire constitutional system, because that's the constitution itself.

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 2>That is the goal, the goal. I mean, so much

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 2>of this it is really just it is burn it

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 2>all down. It is a pure animal passion. And like

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 2>they it's like a dog chasing car. They don't know

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 2>what they would do after they got it. Uh, you

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 2>can find this. There's actually a I think it's called

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 2>like Manifesto of a Revolutionary and it was a work

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:53.319
<v Speaker 2>by a Russian revolutionary way before the Bolsheviks, even late

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundreds. And you read this thing and he just

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:57.800
<v Speaker 2>says the only thing that matters is the revolution, and

0:50:57.880 --> 0:50:59.680
<v Speaker 2>like that's what you live for, and it's not he

0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 2>actually it doesn't describe what the program is after the revolution.

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:04.400
<v Speaker 2>The point is they don't have destroyed, the point is

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 2>rip it all down. It's a very animous, anger based, ideologiful, resentful.

0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 3>So I wish we had better news for you.

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:16.959
<v Speaker 4>But unfortunately, when you give a bunch of country club

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Republicans power, they want their Latin lovers and they want

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:21.560
<v Speaker 4>their vacations.

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 3>Sadly, that is the case, and I.

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.319
<v Speaker 4>Have zero I have zero sympathy for any of them

0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:34.120
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<v Speaker 3>Take the next question we got John. Hey, guys, how

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:35.360
<v Speaker 3>you doing today?

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:37.479
<v Speaker 2>We're doing lovely good.

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:40.399
<v Speaker 3>John. Hey, I hope you are having a blessed day.

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 3>So I've got a question.

0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 9>I'm going to give you two premises of the question,

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:47.720
<v Speaker 9>and it's about public education. The first is public education,

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 9>in my mind, is currently a monopoly since they get

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 9>your money even if you don't send your kids public schools.

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 9>Secondly, the indoctrination and the failure of public schools is

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 9>a common denominator that runs through pretty much every societal

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 9>ill that we have. So many of the topics that

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:08.799
<v Speaker 9>you guys discussed, a lot of it can go back

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 9>to public education. So you guys have had a lot

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 9>of discussion about the education tax credits.

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 3>So my question is what is.

0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:22.360
<v Speaker 9>The mechanism within that tax credits to have a negative

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 9>financial consequences to starve public schools and teachers' unions says

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:32.240
<v Speaker 9>that we can start making major reforms to public education.

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've got a lot of thoughts, but well so

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess when you say it's always people generally do

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 2>like their public schools, whether they should or not. So

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't HONESSARI want to use the ryder cup, Oh

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 2>starve them or whatever. But what this is really about

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 2>is it's about control, it's about choice. Teachers' unions historically

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 2>they love the idea of getting to shape your child's mind.

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 2>You can endlessly find them bragging about this online in

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:01.479
<v Speaker 2>their chat So they're parents think that they control their kids.

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:03.359
<v Speaker 2>But I spend more time with their kids than they do.

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:05.040
<v Speaker 2>They'll smugly talk about this.

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:06.360
<v Speaker 3>These many children.

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they steadily are getting more ideologically extreme, more entitled,

0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:13.879
<v Speaker 2>more mentally unwell. A lot of very bad people seem

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.920
<v Speaker 2>to go into this field. And the best case for

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:20.759
<v Speaker 2>these education tax credits is quite simple. How you raise

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.880
<v Speaker 2>your child is your decision to make. You should not

0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 2>be compelled to, as you say, to send them to

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:28.919
<v Speaker 2>a public school because that's the only option and you're

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.240
<v Speaker 2>forced to pay for it. You should have the option

0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 2>to have your tax dollars and you should be able

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.480
<v Speaker 2>to spend them how you like, which might be private school,

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:42.600
<v Speaker 2>might be homeschooling materials, might be some sort of hybrid model,

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 2>some sort of school startup. America is great for that.

0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:49.799
<v Speaker 2>We have incredible entrepreneurship in the field of education, and

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.319
<v Speaker 2>that is what people should have. They should not be

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:55.359
<v Speaker 2>forced to go to one school that is failing them.

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 4>Here's to answer your question in a more technical way.

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:02.759
<v Speaker 4>Though schools are paid on a per pupil basis. Okay, so,

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 4>and I guess the average amount in the United States

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 4>is about seventeen, six hundred and nineteen dollars per student spending.

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 4>Some of that comes from state some of that comes

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:15.800
<v Speaker 4>from local government, some of it comes from federal funding.

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:20.560
<v Speaker 4>So when you pull enough students out of a public school,

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 4>then their per pupil allotment goes down. And if it

0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 4>goes down enough, then guess what they have to stop hiring.

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 4>They stop hiring teachers. They stop doing this. When you

0:55:30.600 --> 0:55:33.840
<v Speaker 4>don't have as many teachers getting hired by public schools,

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 4>the public school unions, the teachers unions will shrink in size.

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Why is that important? Because they are Democrats, super PACs

0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:45.640
<v Speaker 4>that work against conservative values. They spend all their political

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:48.759
<v Speaker 4>money on Democrats because Democrats give them whatever they want.

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Can't fire students your teachers. You don't want them.

0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:55.919
<v Speaker 4>To snitch on somebody else if somebody else has been

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 4>accused of sexual perversion against a minor. This stuff is like,

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the crazy stuff that you see in these

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 4>teachers unions is the saying, and they're getting publicly funded

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 4>by you. We are publicly paying these teachers to pay

0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 4>dues into the teachers unions to then use that money

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 4>as a super pack for Democrats.

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 2>It's such a rap.

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.399
<v Speaker 4>Peel them out of the public schools and break the back.

0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:20.839
<v Speaker 4>But Blake's point is politically right. Teach parents deserve choice.

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 4>That should be our messaging. But we should also And

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:23.600
<v Speaker 4>they do.

0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Worry about that loss of funding, but I mean, they

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 2>have so much political power in any Democrat state, they

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 2>can have them additional funding. Yeah, you break it. What

0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:33.760
<v Speaker 2>they really feel here is I think the meta point,

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 2>which is if a critical mass of people are opting

0:56:37.239 --> 0:56:44.240
<v Speaker 2>in favor of private schools homeschooling using these uh, these vouchers,

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 2>essentially that they realize, oh I can take this money

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and get something better and it's free or cheaper. They'll

0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 2>break the dependency, they'll break the assumption that this is

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 2>what people need, and then people could really dial back

0:56:57.480 --> 0:56:58.280
<v Speaker 2>public education.

0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 4>Well in Arizona, if you and you made this point,

0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 4>they get the money anyway, not in Arizona. And I

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 4>think Texas and Florida are the same. Now, if you

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 4>pull your child out of public schools and you put

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:10.480
<v Speaker 4>them in a Christian private school, guess what you get

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:13.760
<v Speaker 4>seventy five hundred bucks allotted to that private school.

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 3>So you're actually taking money out of the public.

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 4>School system in the state of Arizona, which is why

0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 4>they wanted to defeat it and why we're fighting back

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 4>against it in Arizona. Let's get to the next question,

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 4>because I know we got a bunch of piling up.

0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:25.560
<v Speaker 10>Next question we got is Elizabeth.

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth, welcome to the show. Please ummute yourself.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, hi, y eighth, they hear me. Yes, Okay, So

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.480
<v Speaker 14>I have a lot of concerns. I'm older than you, guys,

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 14>I'm gen X. My high school actually had a student

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 14>exchange program with the Soviet Union. We actually had kids

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:49.320
<v Speaker 14>in Moscow when Chernobyl happened. They were like collected up

0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:51.320
<v Speaker 14>at like four in the morning from the KGB and

0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:54.840
<v Speaker 14>put in a flight back to the United States. Like

0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 14>I could tell you horror stories about the Soviet Union

0:57:57.760 --> 0:58:01.680
<v Speaker 14>because everybody who came back was always horror, like waxy

0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:05.320
<v Speaker 14>toilet paper, four hour wait at the one McDonald's, and

0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 14>it was a one week paycheck to like get a cheeseburger,

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 14>which was like not even good meat. In the Soviet Union.

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:15.760
<v Speaker 14>They couldn't say anything, like they were always being guarded

0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:20.000
<v Speaker 14>and watched by the KGB on these exchange programs. I

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 14>don't know if you guys ever saw the movie The

0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 14>Death of Stalin, I think really kind of epitomizes how

0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:25.440
<v Speaker 14>bad it is.

0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 2>You just see it.

0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 14>We had to spend all of our high school rasy

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<v Speaker 14>money for children of Chernobyl because all of the kids

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<v Speaker 14>had fyword cancer from Chernobyl. Chernobyl didn't happen just because

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<v Speaker 14>there was a nuclear meltdown. Chernobyl happened because anybody who

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<v Speaker 14>knew what was happening or how bad it was was

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<v Speaker 14>never going to say anything because their family would have

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<v Speaker 14>been disappeared. Like how do we get this through to

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<v Speaker 14>gen Z that I am so sorry you can't afford

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<v Speaker 14>a burrito right now, But there are no burritos in communism,

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<v Speaker 14>and we will get to burrito affordable. It's just gonna

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<v Speaker 14>take a while. Like, how do we really emphasize this

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<v Speaker 14>to beause it's.

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<v Speaker 2>As you say, it is tough. When we were growing

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<v Speaker 2>up then there was a much better understanding of why

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<v Speaker 2>the Soviet Union is so bad. And yet I will

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<v Speaker 2>note that the same people who were radicals today were

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<v Speaker 2>huge simps for the Soviet Union. They would make endless excuses,

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<v Speaker 2>they would run in appearance for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they would.

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<v Speaker 2>They would make the Soviet Union come back and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen the future and it works, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>more freedom than we do.

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<v Speaker 4>Tucker Carlson did that video talking about Moscow's grocery store.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, so, an interesting thing I will say is

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<v Speaker 2>one reason it's tougher is we do see competing systems.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is why we have an important responsibility to

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<v Speaker 2>fix our own problems. Because, for example, people worry about China,

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<v Speaker 2>and China is very authoritarian in a ton of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a free country in so many ways, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the rights we do. But what is different between

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<v Speaker 2>them and the Soviet Union is they don't have that

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<v Speaker 2>same obvious lack of prosperity that you'd go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Soviet Union and every would be in a line. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to all show up before seven am on

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<v Speaker 2>meat day at the supermarket or you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>get any meat and the meat will be bad. China

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<v Speaker 2>has a very rapidly growing economy. They have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of technological success. They're getting richer every year, and so

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<v Speaker 2>people are able to look at that and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe there is something to their system. Or they're

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<v Speaker 2>able to look at another authoritarian country like Saudi Arabia

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<v Speaker 2>or something, and they'll look at those countries and say, there, yeah, Dubai,

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<v Speaker 2>they're able to build things and we struggle to build things,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't seem to have bums on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's really what Tucker was showing when he went to,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, that Russian supermarket, which was oh, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like it's affordable fifteen Moscow. It's basically there's misleading things

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<v Speaker 2>about it. But we do have to make sure we

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<v Speaker 2>can fix these crises in the US, because it is

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<v Speaker 2>really the problems in the US that are making it

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<v Speaker 2>so appealing to look for another system. And it's like

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<v Speaker 2>we said earlier, it's a lot of it is resentment

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<v Speaker 2>and anger driven. And they're not even really thinking what

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<v Speaker 2>is socialism other than it's a word for I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like what's going on, and I want to blow everything

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<v Speaker 2>up and burn it all down.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with Blake. Here's what I would say.

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<v Speaker 4>The truth is that you know, they all believe that

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<v Speaker 4>it hasn't been tried the right way. Yet they all

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<v Speaker 4>think that their version of this is going to somehow

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<v Speaker 4>net something different. And I was actually I posted this

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<v Speaker 4>on my x feed last night about Milton Friedman would

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<v Speaker 4>say that inflation is the great robber, right. Milton Friedman

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<v Speaker 4>was in favor of limiting the supply of money and

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<v Speaker 4>getting economists out of that and just increasing it by

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<v Speaker 4>about three percent every year and telling the economists stop

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<v Speaker 4>doing anything else, balance your budget, stop printing money willy

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<v Speaker 4>nilly three percent every year, because only DC can make inflation.

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<v Speaker 4>And the great robber right now is inflation. What happened

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<v Speaker 4>during Biden was the roadmap to radicalize politics because guess what,

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<v Speaker 4>it's that Ke shaped economy where everybody who didn't own

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<v Speaker 4>assets or equities or homes is getting squeezed and everybody

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<v Speaker 4>who did is getting richer. So we have this k

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<v Speaker 4>shaped economy. It's a huge, huge problem, and it will

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<v Speaker 4>radicalize our politics. But where to Blake's point, we have

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<v Speaker 4>to look in the mirror and say, this happened because

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<v Speaker 4>we spent too much money. We printed money into oblivion

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<v Speaker 4>and sadly that's You're right. It will get better if

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<v Speaker 4>we do a certain number of things long enough. And

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<v Speaker 4>the pitch we have to make to young people is

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<v Speaker 4>get literate in your in economics, because we have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of financial illiteracy in this country, especially with gen Z.

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<v Speaker 4>But you've got to give it time. And so we

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<v Speaker 4>are in a race against the clock. So does that

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<v Speaker 4>answer your question? Does that answer your question here?

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<v Speaker 14>I think so. But I wish they knew that Alger

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<v Speaker 14>Hiss was evil and that, you know, Joe McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Was right, Alger Hiss Man, Algie Hiss. That's a deep

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<v Speaker 2>cut now people do not know about Oh yeah, for seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>So algerr Hiss, he was a guy in the State department,

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty pretty senior in the State Department, like was

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<v Speaker 2>involved in a lot of key decisions. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>was revealed. I believe it was Whittaker Chambers accused him

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<v Speaker 2>of this and just pointed out as like, Algier, you

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<v Speaker 2>were a communist in the thirties, and you know you've

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<v Speaker 2>never publicly disavowed this year, you might still be a communist.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the exact thing he said, and he

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<v Speaker 2>denied this. And basically it wasn't even just that, it

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<v Speaker 2>was that he turned out to be a Soviet spy.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was this is big lib caused celeb forties, fifties, sixties,

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<v Speaker 2>really through the end of the Cold War. Was how

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<v Speaker 2>he was vilified and shamed and they lied about him

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<v Speaker 2>and called him a Soviet spy just to smear him.

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<v Speaker 2>Cold War ended. We got the Soviet archives, algerhis was

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<v Speaker 2>a Soviet spie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably a lot more of those around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Nixon took him down. So that's the great

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<v Speaker 2>Nixon win Nixon.

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<v Speaker 3>We should talk about the rise of Nixon. This is fun.

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<v Speaker 4>If you could go back in time and buy oil

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<v Speaker 4>before the world relied on it, would you? Of course

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<v Speaker 4>you would, anybody would, So why aren't you buying silver

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<v Speaker 4>right now? The people who recognized oil early didn't just

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<v Speaker 4>make money, They got ahead of one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>economic shifts in history, and today, a similar opportunity is

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<v Speaker 4>defend systems AI infrastructure in the massive data centers powering

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<v Speaker 4>that digital world. While demand keeps growing, it's still affordable

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<v Speaker 4>enough that the average American can start accumulating it right now.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why investors are turning to silver to protect against

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<v Speaker 3>Who's up next.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh do we want to do Anthony next?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we'll just do Anthony.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Anthony? What's your question?

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<v Speaker 16>Hey guys? And to answer the Dodger thing, Freeman is

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<v Speaker 16>a fifty to fifty because she plays Canada.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, so take count him.

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<v Speaker 11>Then only you have only three Americans in the entire

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<v Speaker 11>starting lineup three and a half really.

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<v Speaker 2>American, he's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Foreign, he is Nolpe.

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<v Speaker 16>He plays her team Canada when it comes time for

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<v Speaker 16>Worldplay because of his mother, because she's Canadian. God rest

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<v Speaker 16>her soul.

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<v Speaker 3>We love our good Canadian. All right, So Anthony, what's

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<v Speaker 3>your question? All right?

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<v Speaker 16>Here's my question. Are local communities going to care what

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<v Speaker 16>the citizens say about when these Islam centers want to

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<v Speaker 16>come up? Because we see McKinney, Texas, they bought five

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<v Speaker 16>acres of land they want to put up some sort

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<v Speaker 16>of Islamic center and people have spoken out about it,

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<v Speaker 16>but I think the board voted seven nothing in favor

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<v Speaker 16>to build it. And actually one person who spoke has

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<v Speaker 16>been going viral on social media. He was a former

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<v Speaker 16>Islam and now he's a Christian. He's like blowing the

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<v Speaker 16>lid off. How bad Shuri a law is. But like,

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<v Speaker 16>do local communities care or are they just going to

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<v Speaker 16>side with Islam?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I saw this story. Your state is demolishing in its

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<v Speaker 4>own history? Yeah yeah, yeah, this has happened in Oliver, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>My gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm going to get Amy Mech on the show soon,

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<v Speaker 4>who has been working really hard on this. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>talking to her behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 10>Texas is a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 4>And I will tell you when I go to Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>it's almost like the kids are so used to this

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<v Speaker 4>brand of Texas being hard right that they want to

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<v Speaker 4>rebel against it, just because they don't understand that everybody

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<v Speaker 4>has been moving to their state because it's a great place,

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<v Speaker 4>and their their traditional values that they suddenly want to

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<v Speaker 4>reject are also what makes it so great. So there's

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<v Speaker 4>just no appreciation for their heritage in their past. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, these city councils are out of line, and

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<v Speaker 4>who knows what's happening. Either they don't want to be

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<v Speaker 4>called the racist word, they don't want the R word

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<v Speaker 4>to happen, or there's money involved. There's pressure from development developers.

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<v Speaker 4>Texas has a real big problem with developers just running

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<v Speaker 4>rough shot over the state. They're ripping up farmland left

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<v Speaker 4>and right. They love they love building homes on old

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<v Speaker 4>farms and things like that, and then you've got this

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<v Speaker 4>whole move. I mean, there's a Oftentimes Tyler will say

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<v Speaker 4>this about Arizona. The lefties in Arizona are radical lefties,

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<v Speaker 4>like we have the craziest lefties. If you go around

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<v Speaker 4>the state, it feels like a center right state. It

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<v Speaker 4>very much does. You can feel the spirit of the people.

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<v Speaker 4>But the lefties that we have are radical, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think Texas is the same way. Look at this picture

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<v Speaker 4>of throw it up of James tal Rico and this gal.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is an image of Texas. If we can,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess we can't, all right, if you throw it up,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you'll see what I mean here James tal Rico.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know exactly the underlying story here of

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<v Speaker 4>this particular city council, but the town came out and

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<v Speaker 4>just raged against them, and they still voted to pass this.

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<v Speaker 4>And I believe that Texas now has the same second

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<v Speaker 4>most mosques or is it the third. It's like New York, California.

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<v Speaker 3>To it's top three.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a big state. So yeah, it's a big state.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean it's Texas. It's crazy and they are

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<v Speaker 4>trying to conquer. Do you know any specifics about this case.

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<v Speaker 11>Not in this specific one, Well, I know, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 11>areas that aren't getting conquered by Mohammedan's and Islam are

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<v Speaker 11>getting conquered, conquered by Indians.

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<v Speaker 10>So the whole the whole state is just being right.

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<v Speaker 16>Like Crisco is big.

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<v Speaker 3>Frisco, Texas, which is.

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<v Speaker 4>A very wealthy is very big Indians liberal bastion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me see Austin Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Demolate of a of a century old of the century

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<v Speaker 4>old houses nineteen oh six, nineteen oh eight nu Asis.

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<v Speaker 3>Historical Landmark Landmark.

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<v Speaker 4>Commission was told it has zero power to stop it

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<v Speaker 4>because of a twenty nineteen state law protects religious organizations

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<v Speaker 4>from local historic review. No hearing, no debate, just gone.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh yeah, it's wild, It's it's terrifying. We got

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<v Speaker 4>a couple more questions here, Anthony, we're going to get

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<v Speaker 4>to thank you for calling in.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's next, let's do Julia?

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<v Speaker 2>Julia?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Julia, what's your question?

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<v Speaker 2>Please?

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<v Speaker 3>Um mute yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Julia. Uh, well, we're running out of time, so how

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<v Speaker 2>about we read her question. Then she says, when did

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie spend time reading the Bible? He was so busy,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm curious to know how he managed his time. Danny,

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<v Speaker 2>you might know that one best.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean he read it all the time on

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<v Speaker 11>the planes that we take and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>He was always studying from it too. Frank Turk was

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<v Speaker 11>a good friend of his who he's always then communicating

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<v Speaker 11>with him to further his understanding of stuff. So apologetically, Yeah, apologetics,

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<v Speaker 11>and yeah, the rest of the time he did it

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<v Speaker 11>by himself, quietly at home.

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<v Speaker 2>He did it at home a lot. I think one

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<v Speaker 2>thing about Charlie is he was a busy guy. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think one thing we have to emphasize is how

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie was highly effective and efficient with his time. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, we know he was really busy, yet Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>was not a guy who was at the office at

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<v Speaker 2>nine pm every night, which is maybe your classic workaholic thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie actually did try to get home at a reasonable

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<v Speaker 2>hour with his family, and so I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this. He would talk about studying all the Dennis

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<v Speaker 2>Prager courses. He would go home. He would be listening

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<v Speaker 2>to that while arriving. He would be doing that at

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<v Speaker 2>home while he's with his family.

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<v Speaker 4>He watched every single fireside chat too, which was pretty fun.

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<v Speaker 4>And he read the Bible series of the Torah that

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<v Speaker 4>Dennis wrote. But yeah, he studied it a lot, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think he remember he took a Sabbath, and that

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the things he would do on the sabbath.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>She was very good about not it's so easy to

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<v Speaker 2>have more time. You think about, think about the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of time where you're just sort of waste in the

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<v Speaker 2>margins between. So you pull out your phone and you're

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<v Speaker 2>reading it, and that turns into a fifteen minute thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And you do that in the morning, you do it

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<v Speaker 2>at lunch, and you do it after Suddenly that's forty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes to an hour. You could have been dedicated

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<v Speaker 2>to reading your Bible per day. And Charlie's the guy

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<v Speaker 2>where he was actually doing that. He was never just

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<v Speaker 2>doomed scrolling on his phone.

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<v Speaker 10>Who do we got next, Sandy?

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<v Speaker 3>Sandy, welcome to the show. Please unmute yourself.

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<v Speaker 12>I feel like I'm a Texan and I feel like

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<v Speaker 12>twenty plus years ago, when I was just starting out

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<v Speaker 12>really in my career, about ten years in, I was

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<v Speaker 12>called on as a junior person to help the Indian contractors,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, assimilate basically work with them, bring them in

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<v Speaker 12>and again, hey, I'm I'm looking as a Christian, I'm

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<v Speaker 12>you know, accepting people, just caring for people. And I

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<v Speaker 12>still have some very long friends that are Indian in

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<v Speaker 12>different industries now and everything. But I just feel like

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<v Speaker 12>I helped it, you know, start bringing them in. And

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<v Speaker 12>then and cut to twenty years later. You know I

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<v Speaker 12>was let go because of the hostility of you know,

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<v Speaker 12>one of the reasons, hostility towards you know, anyone who

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<v Speaker 12>disagreed with them.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, So Sandy, you're saying, twenty years ago, you

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<v Speaker 4>helped these people assimilate, you love them, you had a

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<v Speaker 4>Christian heart towards them.

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<v Speaker 3>Fast forward twenty years later.

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<v Speaker 4>You're getting let go because of some hostility within the

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<v Speaker 4>Indian community towards you a white Texan.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that basically it?

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, you know, I again, I consider it as individuals.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, I'm not gonna say the whole Indian community

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<v Speaker 12>or anything like that, because I do have some cherished

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<v Speaker 12>friends that.

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<v Speaker 3>I still have that you're not hateful towards them. But

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<v Speaker 3>what how did you get fired out?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 12>I was let go with a you know, corporate wide downprising,

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<v Speaker 12>if you will. Yeah, but I had already been you know,

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<v Speaker 12>shared with me that you know, oh, well, you you know,

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<v Speaker 12>you probably don't want to, you know, Ruffle feathers with

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<v Speaker 12>you know, within the contractors. And at that time I

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<v Speaker 12>was a manager with twenty something contractors offshore, and you

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<v Speaker 12>know who I really cared about and took care of,

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<v Speaker 12>but mainly the ones that were here on shore supposedly

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<v Speaker 12>speaking for them and trying to maneuver contracts and everything.

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<v Speaker 12>Here we can constantly butted heads. I mean, it just

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<v Speaker 12>it was truly unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it cultural?

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<v Speaker 4>Were they trying to move contracts to other Indians where

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<v Speaker 4>and you were trying to do what was best in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Company's interest or or what what? What specifically was the issue?

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<v Speaker 12>Definitely butting heads on. I was looking out for the

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<v Speaker 12>best interests of the company and they were just trying

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<v Speaker 12>to make sure they got contracts renewed, more money, more money,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, more people, and you know it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just I have a question for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you notice that Indians wanted to hire other Indians

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<v Speaker 4>and that was pretty much what they were interested in

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<v Speaker 4>or were they open to hiring whites, blacks, Hispanics.

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<v Speaker 12>When I left, our CIO was Indian and we had

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<v Speaker 12>many levels of our organization beginning to be populated by Indians.

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<v Speaker 12>So you got replaced yeah mm, yeah, which again. You

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<v Speaker 12>know when I walked out the when I was escorted

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<v Speaker 12>out the door, I told my you know, it was

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<v Speaker 12>a a VP at that level. I told him God's

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<v Speaker 12>God's got me. So I had no you know, animosity

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<v Speaker 12>towards them. I knew that God was allowing this change

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<v Speaker 12>in my life. And it's been a struggle, but I

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<v Speaker 12>know He still has me and it's increased my faith.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, God, bless you on the on the micro level,

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<v Speaker 4>because God does have you, and God's got a plan

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<v Speaker 4>and that is true. But on the macro level, we

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<v Speaker 4>should not be importing hundreds of thousands of foreigners to

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<v Speaker 4>come replace Americans in their place of work. That is

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<v Speaker 4>a breakdown of the social compact. That is a breakdown

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<v Speaker 4>of I think a government's responsibility to its own people.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're putting the interest of corporations before the interests

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<v Speaker 4>of the American people that vote for them. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I am extraordinarily upset on your behalf that you've had

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<v Speaker 4>to train your replacements and ultimately be replaced by them

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<v Speaker 4>and shoved out of a job. And this is why

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<v Speaker 4>there's so much passion about h one B's and these

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<v Speaker 4>tech companies and these offshoring of American jobs, because by

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<v Speaker 4>birth and by right, we should be given first opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>to thrive in this country because you were born here,

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<v Speaker 4>you were raised here. And twenty years ago, when this

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<v Speaker 4>was all just starting, this wasn't a concern. People didn't

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<v Speaker 4>realize what was coming down the pipe for them. But

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<v Speaker 4>now we know, and so to continue to allow this

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<v Speaker 4>to happen is an absolute travesty. It's I think, morally

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<v Speaker 4>wrong on so many levels. And so it kind of

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<v Speaker 4>goes back to this conversation about how should we structure

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<v Speaker 4>our economy the free market. The free market will if

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<v Speaker 4>you just if you have zero regulations on anything, they'll

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<v Speaker 4>just offshore everything. They'll hollow out the industrial base in

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<v Speaker 4>the Midwest. So I want to I want an economy that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we're capital is free to move, but we incentivize employers

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<v Speaker 4>and businesses to keep their business here into higher American

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm sorry this happened to you, but it's all

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<v Speaker 4>too common and it breaks my.

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<v Speaker 2>Heart for you.

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<v Speaker 16>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 12>And I I I heard that the that the leadership

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<v Speaker 12>that I had at the time was cautioning me to, oh,

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<v Speaker 12>kind of stay low, let us be the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 12>And I'm like, you're not at You're not down at

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<v Speaker 12>this level. You're not having the daily calls and the

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<v Speaker 12>hours and hours on offshore and onshore calls and having

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<v Speaker 12>to keep them accountable for the product that they provide.

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<v Speaker 12>It I stagger at the thought of them out of

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<v Speaker 12>money that was wasted and lost because of the whole situation.

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<v Speaker 12>I loved that company and I I would have been

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<v Speaker 12>faithful to them until I could have retired.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Genuinely sorry for this happening to you, and it just

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<v Speaker 4>like I said, it breaks my heart because your story

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<v Speaker 4>is not.

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<v Speaker 3>Unique to you. Unfortunately, this is happening all over the country,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's people want.

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<v Speaker 2>They want a country, they want cities, they want churches,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet they want companies that they feel they belong to,

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<v Speaker 2>and the long term trend towards all of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Feeling alienating and often like hostile or indifferent to you

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<v Speaker 2>is a big driver of why I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people are feeling stressed out and unhappy, and even

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<v Speaker 2>on the left, it's that a lot of this is

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<v Speaker 2>is manifesting that way.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, well, and I just want to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>your Christian faith is beautiful and I commend you for

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<v Speaker 4>that and all of God's children are made in his

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<v Speaker 4>image and we should have a heart for them. But

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to caution the Christians out there listening

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<v Speaker 4>that if we are just sowing circle Christians, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not accusing you of that, I just mean that there

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<v Speaker 4>is this temptation as Christians to sort of sit back

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<v Speaker 4>and let bad things happen because we want to be

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<v Speaker 4>nice to everybody. Well, no, this was an injustice that

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<v Speaker 4>was done to you. This shouldn't have happened. Your leaders

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<v Speaker 4>failed you, Your political leaders failed you, your corporate leaders

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<v Speaker 4>failed you. Your community leaders and city council people probably

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<v Speaker 4>failed you as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is okay to have.

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<v Speaker 4>A righteous anger against these things and to not just

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<v Speaker 4>be walked over. So, as Christians, we have a right

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<v Speaker 4>to fight for the truth. We have a right to

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<v Speaker 4>fight against injustice and to fight with all our might.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's what we should do. That's what Charlie did.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry this happened to you, but that's one of

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<v Speaker 4>the reasons we do. What we do is so that

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<v Speaker 4>this country changes and that we stop getting walked over

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<v Speaker 4>and taking as suckers. Because we've been suckers for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time. And I don't want this to happen to

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<v Speaker 4>anybody else, So God bless you. I'm sorry about your

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<v Speaker 4>story and thank you for sharing it with us today.

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<v Speaker 4>That wraps this up for this Friday. We will see

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<v Speaker 4>you again on Monday. God bless you all.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you then. For more on many of these

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