1 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: to the Aaron Mullin Show. It is great to have 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: your company. As always, thank you so much for joining 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: us big show. 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: I'm back in the studio. 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: I landed back from America yesterday morning, back here in Sydney, 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: back to the state. So a couple more times over 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: the next twenty days or so. I think I'm on 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: airplanes more than I'm on the ground. But that is 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: why we do what we do, because we love bringing 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: you amazing conversations with incredible people. And I've got a 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: tiny bit of that to show you today. It is 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: a huge episode. Gordon Chang, one of the world's foremost 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: experts on China, is here to talk not just about 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: the CCP and what the hell has Canada just done, 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: but also Chinese planes flying into Iran during an airspace closure. 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: What is going on there. I'm so excited to speak 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: to him. You'll also hear a little bit from Mark Levin. 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: He was on Sean Hannadi on Fox his show, and 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: his message essentially to Potus regarding the uranium people was 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: so powerful. I want to bring you a little bit 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: of that. I've got a little bit of Steve Wikoff 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: as well. I was on stage with him a couple 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: of nights to go in Florida. And we've also got 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: some exciting news to share with you. We've joined this 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: Salem News channel. 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It's 75 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: the biggest international issue at the moment you've probably seen. 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: The President of Iran has come out and warned then 77 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: an attack on the Supreme Leader, the Great Supreme Leader, 78 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: as he phrases it, would be a declaration of war. 79 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: And this is an at atack of course from the 80 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: United States. President Trump over the weekend in Politico said 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: that Hemone has destroyed Iran and that the new leadership 82 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: is needed. These are really strong words, and he was 83 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: actually told by the reporter some of the comments that 84 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: Hemone had made about him, and of course he doesn't 85 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: take well to well dictators essentially offending him and insulting him. 86 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: We had Steve Wikoff up on stage in Florida. I 87 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: interviewed him as part of the IAC event and I 88 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: asked him about a possible US response. This was what 89 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: he had to say and wait for my comment after. 90 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: Not nice at all. And that is Iran. 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: And we've seen some of the most courageous, phenomenal people 92 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: in the world stand up against an evil raising and 93 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: fight for their freedom, and God bless them all. 94 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: President Trump has said help is on the way. What 95 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: does that mean? 96 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think President Trump warned the Iranians, and at 97 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 3: his direction, we communicated with the Iranians yesterday and one 98 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: of the things we were concerned about were the killings 99 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: that were rumored to be on the way, hangings, mass hangings, 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: and that's been shut down. I think, as everyone knows, 101 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: the President has announced that he's the only one in 102 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: the world who has that indomitable strength that can bend people. 103 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: I watch it happen. It's quite remarkable to watch it happen. 104 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: And he says to me all the time, Steve, You're 105 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: so lucky to be my envoy, Hoy, how lucky are you? 106 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: Okay that that that How lucky are you that I 107 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: picked you. You didn't even know where the Black Sea 108 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: was before you became the envoy. But it's, oh my god, 109 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: it's my greatest privilege to work for him. He's such 110 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: an exceptional man. 111 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: He's a phenomenal. 112 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: Fox News again, prior to coming on here, have said 113 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: that significant American military infrastructure is heading towards and I 114 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: know you can't say much, so don't get me wrong, 115 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: I understand that. 116 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: Do you think we'll see some kind of military action? 117 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: Well, I hope, I hope there's a diplomatic resolution, I 118 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: really do. There are four issues. Nuclear enrichment missiles we have, 119 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: they have to cut back on their inventory, the actual 120 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 3: material that they have, which is roughly two thousand kilograms, 121 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: which is enriched anywhere between three point sixty seven percent 122 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: and sixty and the proxies of course, because and I 123 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: think if Iran, which is stumbling in their economy, it's 124 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: pretty serious situation. There's no water there sixteen hours a day, 125 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: there's no electric twelve hours a day. Inflation is probably 126 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: well north of fifty percent. That's a lot of problems. 127 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: So I think if they want to come back to 128 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: the League of Nations, we can solve those four problems diplomatically. 129 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: Then that would be a great resolution, and I think 130 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: the alternative is a bad one. 131 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: The people of Iran clearly want that regime gone. 132 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: What would you say to. 133 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: Them, I'd say to them, they're incredibly courageous people, and 134 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: we stand with you. 135 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: Love. 136 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Now, first things first, I've made it very clear how 137 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: I feel about what is going on in Iran. I 138 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: want the regime gone, and I think the Iranian people 139 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: have proven with their blood, with their lives, that they 140 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: are willing to fight for their freedom. I would love 141 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: for America to go in and do something, and I 142 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: still think they will. But you've got to realize that 143 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Trump is not going to tell you what he's going 144 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: to do. Same as Witkoff, it doesn't work like that. 145 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: You remember twelve Day War where Trump said to the 146 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: Uranium regime, I give them two weeks. Two days later 147 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: in Israel went America of course, finished it off. Now 148 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: Trump has said help is on its way. We've got 149 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: to remember sometimes that takes time. And believe you me, 150 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: I am as impatient as anyone. We're having tens of 151 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: thousands of people being killed by this evil terrorist regime. 152 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: I get it, but I also understand that if the 153 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: action isn't right, if they don't pull it off, it 154 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: could be worse for the people of Iran. And I 155 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: know that's probably hard to imagine for a lot of you, 156 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: it could be worse. So you look at Save Venezuela 157 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: and people are saying, well, why can't they just do that? 158 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: That was months in the making, They built replica buildings, 159 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: the training that was required to pull that off in 160 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: the way that it was unimaginable. So again, these protests 161 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: have been going for over two weeks now. I'm not 162 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: saying the US hasn't been preparing for something else, you know, 163 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: over a long period of time. 164 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure they have. 165 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: But it's just not maybe as easy as we'd all 166 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: like to think. 167 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: But look at the science. Look at the science. 168 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: Look at the amount of US military infrastructure that is 169 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: moving towards the Middle East, not a way towards, including 170 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,239 Speaker 1: aircraft carriers. Okay, so keep an eye on that, towards 171 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: this Islamic regime. Trump doesn't want it to survive. They 172 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: tried to kill him, they tried to assassinate him. And 173 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: it's not like they've said, oh, sorry, we made a mistake. 174 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: They are hammering down on it. Two three days ago, 175 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: they came out someone from that regime and said, next time, 176 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: we won't miss you. Think Donald Trump doesn't see that, 177 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: of course he does. Mike Levin, someone I know Donald 178 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Trump respects immensely. I want to play you this bit. 179 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: He spoke on Sean Handeddy's show, Every single word. 180 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 4: Watch Iran today is a concentration camp. The lights are off, 181 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: the electricity is off, it's dark. There's no communication except 182 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: for Qatar's communications system Al Jazeera. People are being dragged 183 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 4: out of their homes tonight as I speak, they're hiding 184 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: in their homes. They're being executed summarily. The prisoners who 185 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: are the age of your children and grandchildren are being 186 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: tortured and raped. It's not three thousand dead. 187 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: I just read it. 188 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: Twenty three thousand dead, and the numbers going up. You 189 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: can't see there, you can't hear there. Maybe they're not 190 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: hanging people, but they have bullets. They're killing people, and 191 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: they are abusing these people. Now, people say, what is 192 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 4: it our business? 193 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 5: Now? 194 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 4: Sometimes there are things we cannot do. The veigas in 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: China and so forth and so on. You just said 196 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: that this guy Kamani has ordered the assassination of our president. 197 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: They've tried to assassinate our president. He should be taken out. 198 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: When you try to take out the president of the 199 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: United States, Since when do we tolerate that from any 200 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: seventh century barbarian primitive? Not today, not yesterday. And we 201 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 4: shouldn't take it tomorrow, And we shouldn't be here wondering 202 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 4: what Americans should do. This is a regime that said, yeah, 203 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 4: you took out our newts, but you can't take out 204 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: our knowledge about nuts. And we're gonna keep building them 205 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 4: and we're gonna attack the United States. They'd killed a 206 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: thousand Americans over the years through Hesba and Hamas. Now 207 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: I asked my fellow Americans how much more of this 208 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: crap are we gonna take from these terrorists? How much 209 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 4: more they are slaughtering these young people. They're unarmed, they're 210 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 4: brutalizing them. We said protests were coming to the rescue. Well, 211 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 4: that's what we Americans do when we can. And the President, 212 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: I believe in all my heart, is gonna keep his word, 213 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 4: because that's what he does. And when you see these 214 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: young people and body bags all over the damn place, 215 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: and when you see these young people staring into the 216 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: sky dead. And when these young people are in these 217 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: prisons saying, my God, where's my mother and my father? 218 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: Can somebody help me? You hear them, America. You hear them. 219 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 4: I hear them screaming, we need to do something about this. 220 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: Destroying the iotola is America first, absolutely, America first again. 221 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: Try to assassinate your president, Donald Trump. They have the 222 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: blood of thousands of Americans on their hands. They disrupt 223 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: the entire Middle East and impact the world, you know, 224 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: in a negative way. They have their tentacles of evil 225 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: in almost everything that is destructive. This regime gone, we 226 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: all win. Trump knows that, America knows that. I said 227 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: this on stage at mary Lago late last week, a 228 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: shout out to the incredible, brave, rageous freedom fighting people 229 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: in a run. 230 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: Who leans God, lead on, let me be in. 231 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: Because we will all benefit significantly from the end of 232 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: this feeble regime. 233 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: And I'm hoping this is not cheek. And then I 234 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: have a mar Lago with no deals. The iron toler 235 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: is done, no deal. 236 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: So again I say, nobody knows what will happen. Nobody 237 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: knows what is going on inside Donald Trump's head. But 238 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: know this, he understands who he is dealing with. He 239 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: understands the evil that exists within this regime. He understands 240 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: that the Ayatolla cannot continue in a position of power. 241 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: He knows all of that. 242 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: I just hope they figure out a way to do 243 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: something about it. That is America first, sooner rather than later. 244 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: The people of Iran deserve that. Now, just when you 245 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: thought that Canada's leadership couldn't get any stupid, ladies and gentlemen, 246 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Kanni has managed to find a whole 247 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: other level. And that's not easy, by the way, given 248 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: how much stupid he's already shown in such a short 249 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: period of time, I'd be impressed if it wasn't so dangerous. Now. 250 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister did a whole bells and whistles trip 251 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: to China to meet with his new best friend, Jijing Ping, 252 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: and then he hailed this new Strati partnership has been 253 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: capable of setting both nations up for it, wait for it, 254 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: new world Order. 255 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: Say what is he insane? 256 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: And the short answer, by the way, is yes, I 257 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: mean he needs to go back to school. Mark Karney, 258 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: This shouldn't surprise anyone, though. Look at how we handled 259 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: the war in the Middle East, look at how we 260 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: handled the Israel issue. Look at how he handled every 261 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: single thing that's been thrust in front of him thus far, 262 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: with weakness, with appeasement, with cowardice. Now Jijingping will eat 263 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: carne alive, chum up, spit him out. I wonder if 264 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: Cannie actually watched the leader of the CCP's New Year's 265 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: speech where he outlined his plan. 266 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: I wonder if he did. I did I did. 267 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: China ate looking for new friends in the West, Prime Minister. 268 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: It's looking to use any useful idiot in can to 269 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: assure global dominance. That's all it cares about. Not having nice, 270 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: friendly relationships with Canada. Canada will be the first place 271 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: to fall, and just like we've seen with the Muslim 272 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: Brotherhood in Western nations, it will be through an open 273 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: door and a warm welcome, thank you so much. 274 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 5: Ah. 275 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: It's frustrating, like all of these things. It's not like 276 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: it's been hidden. It's not like no one knows what 277 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: the CCP want. They're saying it out loud if you 278 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: just bothered to listen. Yet, now we have Carnie cozying 279 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: up to him talking about a new world order like 280 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: it's just fairy tales, fantasy, lollipops, rainbow sunshine. 281 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: Know it will destroy everything. 282 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: That we have fought to build and everything our forefathers 283 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: have died for. 284 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: How do you not know that? In fact, you probably do, 285 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: but you don't care. 286 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: Because you'll do anything to feed your hate of Donald Trump. 287 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: That's what this is all about. 288 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: You despise him, and he doesn't do the things that 289 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: you think are the right thing, because he's a strong 290 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: leader who understands that strength is everything on the world stage. 291 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: Yes, including when dealing with Canadians. 292 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: Because sorry, you ain't doing a great job of it yourself. 293 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: Now. 294 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: Gordon Chang one of the world's foremost experts on China. 295 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have him on the show. Gordon Chang, 296 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: such a pleasure to have you on Aaron Mullins show. 297 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. 298 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 6: Well, thank you, Erin. 299 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: I want to jump. 300 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: Straight into the Prime Minister of Canada and his desire 301 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: to join China in a new world order. As he says, 302 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: what was your reaction watching all of these play out? 303 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 5: Well, Prime Minister Carnegie's trip to Beijing was not good 304 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 5: for Canada, but of course we have to see it 305 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 5: in the context of the increasingly troubled relations between Ottawa 306 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 5: and Washington. 307 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 6: Now. 308 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 5: President Trump, to his credit, has identified national security concerns 309 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 5: with Canada, and they've been long standing ones, but American 310 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 5: presidents have not raised them. But President Trump, although he's 311 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 5: identified them, he's also got to solve them and he 312 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 5: can't make them worse. And unfortunately, what we're seeing right 313 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 5: now with Carney going to China is things getting worse. 314 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 5: Canada and the United States need each other. They have 315 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: a long border, they can't move, and their economies are interdependent, 316 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 5: and right now they depend on each other for security. 317 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 5: So at this particular time, it's important for Trump, i think, 318 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 5: to lower the temperature and also for Carney to understand 319 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 5: what's in Canada's best interest and not continue a spat 320 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 5: with Washington when it's not in the interest of Canadians. 321 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: Do you think Prime Minister Khani understands what New World 322 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: Order means through the lens of the CCP. I'm sure 323 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: you watched Jijiping's New Year's speech. 324 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: I did. I don't think he quite understands. 325 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: I believe he'll be eaten up and spat out if 326 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: China achieves what it wants to, which is global dominance. 327 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 5: Well, China has pushed Ottawa around and it has penetrated 328 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 5: the Canadian political system. It is infringed on Canadian territory. 329 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 6: It has done all. 330 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 5: Sorts of things that really endanger the national security of Canadians. Now, 331 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 5: new world order is a phrase which has or William connotations, 332 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 5: and you know, we know from Klaus Schwab, who about 333 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 5: a couple of years ago was talking about a new 334 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 5: world order where people don't basically have any democratic rights. 335 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: They just are governed by global elites who know what's 336 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 5: good for them. And so that is something that people 337 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 5: have questioned Carnie about because we're not exactly sure what 338 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 5: he means by it. He gave a sort of very 339 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 5: bland definition of what he intended with that phrase. But 340 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 5: I think Canadians are going to not let this drop 341 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 5: because obviously this is a phrase which has a lot 342 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: of emotional impact and it's not really compatible with a 343 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 5: democratic society. 344 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: We've seen Trump act when it comes to Venezuela and 345 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: the leader there, because of the proximity of that country 346 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: the region. Of course, he had a million other things, drugs. 347 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: It set to the blood of Americans on his hands. 348 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: They had a warrant out for him. How do you 349 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: think Trump feels about this new strategic deal with China, 350 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: as you said, right on their doorstop in fact attached 351 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: to their country in Canada. 352 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think Trump is happy. Now we know 353 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 6: what he has said. 354 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 5: Our president said, oh, well, you know, if that's in 355 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 5: Canada's interested, He's happy for them to do that. But 356 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 5: I don't really think he needs it. And we have 357 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 5: seen from Trump officials talk about the China Canada deal 358 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 5: in pretty grim terms. The thing that's important here, there's 359 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: a lot to that deal, but one of them which 360 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 5: is important to the US is that Canada has agreed 361 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 5: to drop tariffs on Chinese evs from one hundred percent 362 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 5: to six point one percent for forty nine thousand of 363 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 5: them in the first year of the arrangement. Now, the 364 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 5: US does not allow Chinese evs into our country because 365 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 5: we know that they are basically rolling spy machines. They 366 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 5: transmit data back to China, and they transmit all sorts 367 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 5: of other things in addition to what normally EV's transmit, 368 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 5: including conversations in passenger compartments. So the US is probably 369 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 5: not going to allow Canadians to drive those vehicles into America, 370 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 5: and that's really been the preliminary indication from the Trump administration. Well, 371 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 5: if these things aren't safe in the United States, they're 372 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 5: certainly not safe in Canada either, And we're seeing Canadians 373 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 5: talk about these evs as not in their country's interest. 374 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: Why do you think she Ping's head is at now, 375 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: and particularly in regards to his desire to reclaim Taiwan, 376 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: given what is going on in the world at the moment. 377 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: He's lost a big ally in Venezuela, the Iranian regime. 378 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope it won't survive. You actually shared 379 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: a post of mine on X. Thank you, very very 380 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: grateful for you doing that. Everyone followed Gordon Chang on 381 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: X regarding new leadership required. Does this make Jijingping maybe 382 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: hurry up plans? Does it make him think it's worth waiting? 383 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: Where do you think his head's at in regards to 384 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: that issue? 385 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 6: Oh, that's a really important question. 386 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: We'll get back to the show in just a moment, 387 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: but I have to introduce you to my brand new obsession. 388 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: And I know this is not going to be new 389 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: to the vast majority of you. 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That 428 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: is amazing. 429 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: It takes care of everything. 430 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: It's a one stop shop, so it makes you go 431 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: to Balance of Nature dot com. That is Balance of 432 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: Nature dot com. 433 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 5: I think that, you know, Chinese foreign policy, more than 434 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: the foreign policies of other countries, is really driven by 435 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 5: domestic concerns and Cgmping right now, I think is in 436 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 5: trouble inside China for a number of reasons. His policies 437 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 5: obviously are accelerating some pretty negative trends, especially the economy, 438 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 5: but also we are seeing, you know, hints that there 439 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 5: is severe leadership turmoil. And I think that Cigymping BELI 440 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 5: that it's in his interest that they China maintains a 441 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 5: high level of tension with Taiwan, Japan, the Philippines, India, 442 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 5: South Korea. And I'm concerned that if one of these 443 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 5: incidents that China provokes, and they provoke them all the time, 444 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 5: but if one of these incidents gets out of control, 445 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 5: Sijmpin will not be able to de escalate because he 446 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 5: can't act constructively with the international community, which means that 447 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 5: things could really get bad in East Asia. And I 448 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 5: don't think it's necessarily Taiwan. I mean, we're seeing some 449 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 5: very provocative incidents in the South China Sea against Philippines 450 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 5: and also around the islands that the Japanese call the 451 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 5: San Conco's in the East China Sea. So right now 452 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 5: it can be any place in that arc of countries 453 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 5: on China's periphery. 454 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: We saw the coalition, the Liberal Party under Prime Minister 455 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: Scott Morrison stand up to China post COVID. We then 456 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: saw the current government under Anthony and Easy soften immensely. 457 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: He's visited China, has relations with jijingping. Do you see 458 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: what we've just seen with Canada now this new strategic partnership. 459 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: Do you see other Western nations, allies of the US 460 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: maybe looking to lean in there as well, which would 461 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: be very different from the normal types we see, you know, 462 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: all closing up North Korea, Russia putin the even Mody 463 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: was there recently. 464 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really important point that you mentioned, because 465 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 5: Carney's visit does open the door for other leaders to 466 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 5: do the same thing. And you know, this is the 467 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 5: question of Europe because we have Kira Starmer who is 468 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 5: scheduled to go to Beijing pretty soon. Now that trip 469 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: is going to be dependent on whether Starmer approves the 470 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 5: Mega Embassy in London. But you know it's not just 471 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 5: England it's Britain. It's also Germany because the Chancellor Friedrich 472 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 5: Murdz is scheduled to go there next month. And this 473 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 5: of course follows Emmanuel Macron and is wife going to 474 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 5: Beijing last month. So we see Europe's major countries trooping 475 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 5: over to China, and I'm afraid that CARNEI has sort 476 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 5: of opened the door for even more of that activity 477 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 5: on the part of Western leaders, which really isn't good 478 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 5: for the free world. 479 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: No, could you explain to my audience what it would 480 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: mean if all of a sudden, maybe China took the 481 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: number one spot or this balance was tilted more in 482 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: their favor as opposed to America's. As it currently stands 483 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: in terms of influenced power on the world stage. 484 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 5: We know that China is destabilizing the world. It's doing 485 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 5: that through proxy wars and the last year has been 486 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 5: fighting them on three separate continents. It's supporting Russia all 487 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: across the board. In Ukraine, it has been behind Iran's 488 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 5: attack on Israel. China supports Hamas Hesbula and the Huthi militia. 489 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 5: And also China has been feeling insurgencies in North Africa 490 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 5: that looked like wars. So if you empower that hostile 491 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 5: state that believes that it has the right to do 492 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 5: whatever it wants and is taking down the international system. 493 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 5: You know, Europeans like to complain about Trump breaking the 494 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 5: international order. Well, the point is that order doesn't exist 495 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 5: anymore because of what Moscow and Beijing have been doing, 496 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 5: and Trump is just recognizing the reality that international law, 497 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 5: the international order as a practical matter, no longer exists. 498 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 6: So, yeah, I don't like that, But the point is 499 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 6: we got to deal with. 500 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 5: The world the way it actually exists and not the 501 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: way that we want it to be, which is, by 502 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 5: the way, something that Carnegie actually talked about himself. But 503 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 5: he has to recognize that a China led international order 504 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 5: is going to be something that no one wants to 505 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 5: live in except for Siegenmpin. 506 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just mentioned China's support and funding of wars 507 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: around the world, and we saw a couple of big 508 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: Chinese planes landing in Iran just recently since the protest, 509 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: and even you know, when there was airspace closed. 510 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: What's the impact do you think on that relationship? 511 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: Now, does China lose if the raging there the Ayatola falls. 512 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 5: This is a really big setback for China if the 513 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 5: Ayatolla is full. Just from any number of different viewpoints, 514 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 5: if you had to go back, China's been backing. 515 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 6: Iran for a very long time. 516 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 5: If you go back, remember China brokeer that deal between 517 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia and Iran in twenty twenty three, and it 518 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 5: looked like China was dominating the Middle East. That was 519 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 5: until Trump last year in May made that triumphal tour 520 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 5: through three Gulf states, including Saudi Arabia, and then we 521 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 5: started to see China lose its friend in Syria as 522 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 5: there's now an American friendly leader there. Plus also Saudi 523 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 5: Arabia moved much closer to Washington than Beijing, and if 524 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 5: China were to lose Iran, it would be out of 525 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 5: the region. China gets a lot out of Iran, and 526 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 5: not only just disrupting that crucial part of the world, 527 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 5: but also they get a lot of discounted oil. China 528 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 5: takes somewhere between eighty to ninety percent usually ninety percent 529 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 5: in most years of Iran's exports of crude, and it 530 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 5: gets that sanctioned oil at cheap prices. So you have China, 531 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 5: which has become very dependent on that. You know, that 532 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 5: can be as much as twenty three percent of China's 533 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 5: seaborn imports of crude oil some people estimate. But the 534 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: point is it's very cheap, and that sets the price 535 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 5: for Chinese factories. And if it loses discounted oil, remember 536 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 5: it's lost Venezuela's discounted oil. If it loses both countries 537 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 5: discounted oil, it then has to pay much higher prices 538 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 5: for energy. And for China and manufacturing sector dependent on 539 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 5: cheap energy, that's a really, really big important disadvantage. 540 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: It's really hard to know what the everyday Chinese person 541 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: thinks because there's not really well there's not a freedom 542 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: of press, and we don't hear a lot from them. 543 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: That's generally how it works, you know, in communist countries, 544 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to know your thoughts. 545 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: I'm about to talk about it. 546 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: An email I got from someone referencing Iran and saying, 547 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's the same situation in Gaza. People the 548 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: ideology is screwed with their heads, et cetera, et cetera. 549 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: And I made the point, Well know, in Gaza people 550 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: elected in hamas in Iran over eighty percent, and I 551 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: would hazard. A guess far more than that. Don't support 552 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: this illegal regime. They weren't voted in, So it's a 553 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: different kettle of fish. What are the people think in China? 554 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: What is the population? Are they supportive of Jijingping? Do 555 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: they just accept it for what it is? You've mentioned 556 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: elements of unrest maybe within the government. 557 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Chinese people are in a pretty 558 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 5: dark mood right now. Remember this is a population that 559 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 5: for decades and decades was used to everything getting better 560 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 5: year after year. They didn't even know what a recession 561 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 5: was because they didn't have them. And you know, when 562 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 5: you have the COVID, plus the failure to have a 563 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 5: strong recovery after COVID, you have a Chinese economy right 564 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 5: now that's not growing at the five point four point 565 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 5: eight percent pace that they claim for the third quarter 566 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 5: of last year. 567 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 6: It's probably about zero. 568 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 5: We don't know exactly where it is erin, but the 569 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 5: Chinese people we can see they're not consuming. We know 570 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 5: that seventy percent of the wealth of the middle classes 571 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 5: represented by property and property prices continued to fall. They're 572 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 5: down probably about fifty percent off of their twenty twenty 573 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 5: one highs. So you have a people who don't feel wealthy, 574 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 5: they don't like the government, but they're coerced. You know, 575 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 5: they are not going to do too much because they're 576 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 5: afraid of the government. But we also know erin that 577 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 5: when they get a chance, they actually show not only 578 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 5: their displeasure but their hate of the regime. And that 579 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 5: occurred in October twenty twenty two when there was a 580 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 5: series of extraordinary protests across China over so many different issues. 581 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 5: Some of the protests were even revolutionary. They wanted the 582 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 5: Party out of the way, and they said so in public. 583 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 5: So we know this is a volatile situation for the 584 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 5: Communist Party. 585 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: Gordon, what keeps you up at night? 586 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 5: I guess it's the weakness of the Chinese regime. You know, 587 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 5: if Sijan being we know he has grand ambitions to 588 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 5: rule the world. I mean he talks about Tiencia is 589 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 5: all under heaven. Chinese emperors not only had the right, 590 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 5: but the obligation to rule all under heaven, and now 591 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 5: his officials are talking about the moon and Mars and 592 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 5: sovereign Chinese territory. Well, you take a guy with these 593 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 5: great ambitions and he's starting I believe to see a 594 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 5: closing window of opportunity because he can see what's happening 595 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 5: to the economy. China's demography is catastrophic. They can lose 596 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 5: three quarters of their population between now and the turn 597 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 5: of the century. So I think that he believes that 598 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 5: he has to move faster. Rather he doesn't. He can't 599 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 5: be patient. He's got to move soon or he's going 600 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: to lose the ability to do that. So I worry 601 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 5: about China this decade. I think, Aaron, if we get 602 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,479 Speaker 5: through this decade, we'll probably be okay. But every year 603 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 5: until twenty thirty, I think is a dangerous time for us. 604 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: I've never thought about it like that when you said 605 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: China's weakness. I mean, we hear so much about, you know, 606 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: China's strength, and they're growing military prowess, et cetera. But 607 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: it's that vulnerability that makes the leader very dangerous, isn't it, 608 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: And that fear that things may change quickly and he 609 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: won't get his chance. 610 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 5: Yes, well, we know that there's a lot of discontent 611 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 5: in the Chinese military. You know, people say, you know, 612 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 5: we see all these generals and admirals being sacked, and 613 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 5: people say, well, Sie jumping is getting rid of corruptive 614 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 5: flag officers. Well maybe, but we have When you look 615 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: at the evidence, it appears said Si Jimping's adversaries in 616 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 5: the military are getting rid of Si Jimping's loyalists in 617 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 5: the military, and that means Si Jemping is not as 618 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 5: strong as he appears. And that's why I'm worried, because 619 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 5: I think that he believes that his future is tied 620 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 5: to tension with the rest of the world. So that's 621 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 5: what keeps me up. 622 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: Good and Chang, it's so wonderful to chat with you. 623 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so so much for coming on. I watch 624 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: almost everything you do obsessively and I never feel great afterwards, 625 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: but I feel much more informed, which I think matters 626 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: more well. 627 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Eric, I really appreciate it, and 628 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 5: stay safe. 629 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. 630 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: What a fascinating yet terrifying conversation. Ladies and gentlemen. Thank 631 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us here on the Aaron 632 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: Mullin Show. Before I let you go, fan feedback and 633 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: as I always say, even if you hate me, if 634 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: you're watching and engaging, you are a fan. 635 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it very very much. 636 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: We've got Yokozono who says thanks Erin for standing with 637 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: us during these difficult and dark times. Light is going 638 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: to prevail When great human beings like you haven't forgotten 639 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: my compatriots in Iran. 640 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 2: We all must do the same. 641 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: Karen says, thank you for speaking up for the oppressed 642 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: people in Iran in your speech and telling Trump where 643 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: you stand. 644 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: He needs to hear this from more people. 645 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: I suspect he knows, and we will see evidence of 646 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: that shortly. 647 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: Let's hope. Mister eight says, thank you for your support. 648 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: We are never giving up. 649 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: Too many of our brothers and sisters have been sacrificed. 650 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: Raviator says, the Iranian people need to overthrow the Islamic 651 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: regime themselves without material support from outside. I don't know 652 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: if I agree with you on that. I don't think 653 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: that's possible. They have no weapons. They've done all that 654 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: they can. They've shown the world they're willing to spill 655 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: blood and give their lives. But the nature of this regime, 656 00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: their enemies don't have weapons, They have nothing, nothing. Big 657 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: Boppa says, I think Trump is doing a great job, 658 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 1: but wtf with Greenland? That beep leaves me wondering. Look, 659 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: I've got to admit as well. I struggle more with 660 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: Greenland than almost anything else. That is what I will 661 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: find hard to I mean, he's not going to go 662 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: and take it by force. But I get it, Okay, 663 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: I get it on Greenland, I really do. Imperial and 664 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: History says forty six years of crimes, forty six years 665 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: of atrocities committed behind closed doors inside the prisons of 666 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: the Islamic regime, public execution, stoning, flogging, systematic repression. Today, 667 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: this Islamic fascist regime has become so shameless it opens 668 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: fire an innocent people whose only demand is freedom and 669 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: the overthrow of this filthy government, a regime that has 670 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: brought in thousands of mercenary forces from Iraq and Lebanon, 671 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: not to maintain security, but to suppress and massacre defenseless civilians, 672 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: an unprecedented slaughter, more than twelve thousand lives lost. The 673 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: people are brave and courageous, and what can truly be 674 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: done with bear hands? Salute to the patriotic Iranians. That 675 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: is absolutely that is it, spot On beautifully said and 676 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: Robert finally airon great report. 677 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 2: Here is my concern. 678 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: The leadership of Iran is no different in their motivation 679 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: and thinking than harmas. They're just as entrenched and determined 680 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: to stay control as Hamas. It would require a massive 681 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: army in the hundreds of thousands to change the government 682 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: of Iran. It will also require probably hundreds of thousands 683 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: of lives lost, Mine's taken over by ISLAMI damage to 684 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: the point of hating everyone's life, and they just look 685 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: forward to being killed as martyrs. This makes it a 686 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: very difficult enemy to move out of the way. Protests 687 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: and ship will not do it. Trump cannot do it. 688 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: Look I get what you're saying, Robert, and thank you 689 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 1: so much for commenting. I would say the difference here 690 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 1: between Gaza and between Iran, the people in Gaza voted 691 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: in hamas they voted them in Okay. So that's a 692 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 1: very different prospect to the people of Iran who had 693 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: this illegal regime almost fifty years ago come in without 694 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: any kind of democratic process. These people do not support 695 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: these life I'm regime. The people of Iran do not. 696 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: So it's a very different kind of situation and enemy 697 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: to tackle than the situation in Gaza. But thank you 698 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: so much, love you all, thank you so much for 699 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: tuning in. Another couple of big shows this week. Then 700 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: we've got our weekend show that of course join us 701 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: on the Salem News Channel on Saturday and Sunday. Thanks again, 702 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: we'll see you tomorrow. Bye.