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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country,

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Speaker 1: Viewers, welcome to this edition of thought Crime.

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Speaker 4: You're making me think of are you the Are you

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Speaker 4: afraid of the dark, the dark.

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Speaker 5: And I can control them. I can control them with

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Speaker 5: an app and it's.

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Speaker 4: Awesome, you know, true story. The oldest memory I have

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Speaker 4: a Phoene. The oldest memory I have a Phoenix is

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Speaker 4: that I came here when I was like nine or

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Speaker 4: so because my dad had a work trip here and

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Speaker 4: I was at the Phoenician and I was watching the

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Speaker 4: Are You Afraid of the Dark? Movie on There's the

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Speaker 4: Hotel TV? There was a movie there was There was

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Speaker 4: like a made for TV movie that was like two

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Speaker 4: hours long and it wasn't a story like the kids

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Speaker 4: had to fight evil like in real life.

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Speaker 6: So they are You Afraid of the Dark? That literally

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Speaker 6: I think about all the time is the one where

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Speaker 6: I think the kids turn into like dolls or something

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Speaker 7: Do you remember it? Does anyone remember this one?

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Speaker 4: I don't remember.

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Speaker 6: There's a dollhouse and the kids turn into dolls and

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Speaker 6: their and their their their skin becomes porcelain.

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Speaker 1: WHOA, wait, No, I remember that, yeah or something? I

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Speaker 7: I think about it all the time.

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Speaker 4: I remember.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why, like it just like it just

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Speaker 6: stuck with me though. It was like a really eerie and.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't Wasn't there Ryan Gosling episode?

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Speaker 7: It was like four PM. You're like in a dark house.

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Speaker 6: You know, you're eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich

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Speaker 6: after school and you're watching Are You Afraid of the

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Speaker 6: Dark by Yourself? Like that was that was America in

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Speaker 6: like the nineties and early few thousands.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was. Uh. Ryan Gosling was in the season

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Speaker 4: five episode The Tale of Station one oh nine point one,

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Speaker 6: Speaking of Ryan Gosling, the team has said that this

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Speaker 6: new movie that he's in is pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Uh, the sci fi one. Yeah, I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: can't really get into that because it's like the original

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Speaker 4: the first movie that guy made. The Martian same author

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Speaker 4: is like one of the most reddit books ever written.

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Speaker 4: It's like he names his bass like bass Ninja, pirate

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Speaker 4: Monkey or something like that.

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Speaker 5: So I yeah, So I read the book for Project

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Speaker 5: Till Mary. I thought it was a good book. I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm definitely excited to see the movie. The books it's

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Speaker 5: it's sort of like there's what was it say, Like

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Speaker 1: But then he goes into outer space and he was

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Speaker 4: Was it racism and the stars go down, and like.

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Speaker 5: The whole thing is about like their relationship, like like

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Speaker 4: That's pretty cool. Are the stars going out because of racism?

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Speaker 4: Because that's kind of what modern sci fi is usually about.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's oh yeah, thats you. We wouldn't want them

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Speaker 9: We have a I think noteworthy. It's noteworthy. Our first

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Speaker 9: story has nothing to do with racism.

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Speaker 1: Really, but it is sexism.

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Speaker 3: Well, it depends how you look at it.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what they claimed. That's what this person's supporters claimed.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's get into it, Blake. What's the story?

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Speaker 4: All right? Well, we have we're very interested in this one.

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Speaker 4: If you're wondering why, despite having no women on here,

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Speaker 4: a very direct involvement with another case. We're all very

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Speaker 4: interested in the case we are talking about is Corey Richins.

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Speaker 4: This is a true crime saga that's been unfolding in

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Speaker 4: the state to our north, in Utah, and it's pretty fascinating.

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Speaker 4: It's got all that stuff that will make a great

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Speaker 4: podcast later. In fact, I assume it's already made several

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Speaker 4: X chromosome podcast world because Corey Richins. She is a mom,

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Speaker 4: I believe, a Mormon mom in Utah, and years ago,

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Speaker 4: not even a throwaway. This was people saw this story,

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Speaker 4: people read this book. And then mere weeks after the book, yeah,

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Speaker 4: They'd been investigating it for a year and they say

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Speaker 4: Corey actually murdered her husband, she poisoned him. Apparently she

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Speaker 4: I think, Jack, you're probably chomping at the bit to

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Speaker 5: Let's let's not do that yet. Let's let's walk through

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Speaker 5: the story first. Okay, all right, before because that takes

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Speaker 5: it in a different direction. All right, okay, But but

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Speaker 5: the family was Mormon, the family she married into was Mormon,

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Speaker 4: That is that is that important thing, like our Mormon

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Speaker 6: So this is secret lies of non Mormon wives, is

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Speaker 6: what you're saying, secret wives of non Mormon wise, secret lives.

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Speaker 4: What is the Mormon Church's position on spousal murder?

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Speaker 7: It's pretty strong.

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Speaker 4: You should do it.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, and then and and the other thing I

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Speaker 5: to add that that she forged his signature, and that

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, instead of just us droning on about it,

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Speaker 4: Let's do clip one.

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Speaker 10: You know, we kind of my kids and I kind

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Speaker 10: of wrote this book on the different emotions and grieving

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Speaker 10: processes that we've experienced last year, and you know, hoping

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Speaker 10: just happened. And the three c's is how I has

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Speaker 10: connection is the one major one. And making sure that

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Speaker 10: just comforting to them to know, oh that, you know,

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Speaker 4: So do you guys, Convict just off that pretty much?

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Speaker 4: think in my head, did something seem off there? Or

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Speaker 4: do I just think something seems off because I know

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just don't. I don't understand how you think

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Speaker 4: Is she?

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Speaker 5: I definitely went down the rabbit hole on this one.

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Speaker 5: A couple of nights ago, and she what she was

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Speaker 7: What's your first name? Yeah, let's let me talk.

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Speaker 10: We had a dream together and then to celebrate something

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Speaker 5: Yes, And she also at one point in the trial

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Speaker 5: And here's the reason this case matters, I guess because

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Speaker 4: There's like so many weird layers to this. It's like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, literally, So she wrote a letter from jail like

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Speaker 1: And that's the keyar is.

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Speaker 4: That we're very unlucky. We're genuinely very lucky.

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Speaker 5: That like Belvior is disgusting and evil and like it

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So I want to I want to hit this video.

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Speaker 5: and uh, yeah, yeah, we mentioned that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do think you did.

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Speaker 5: And they said, they said, yeah, prosecution didn't make their case,

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Speaker 1: Let's let's play clip twenty one. This is what I

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Speaker 1: was just talking about, Rod Cam.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting that free true boys come back in the corner.

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Speaker 5: There we go, Richard, Richard, Richard yep.

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Speaker 7: For Richard.

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Speaker 5: Look war.

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Speaker 2: You understand the Warrior?

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Speaker 3: What are we watching there?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't drink personally, So I like, I

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Speaker 5: don't know what like Normy cult, Like I don't understand Norman.

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Speaker 1: Culture at all, but like.

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Speaker 5: Take the case out of it even regardless of you know,

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Speaker 5: what the context is here. I just think that kind

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Speaker 5: of behavior around children is a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit, a little bit, a little bit off, like

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's appropriate around kids.

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Speaker 5: I really don't like, like you're drinking a beer around

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Speaker 5: a kid and you're in a cup or a bottle

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Speaker 5: or something like. That's one thing, But this, like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: binging binge drinking in front of children.

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Speaker 3: Is this whole story is crime?

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Speaker 1: Binge drinking in front of children is not okay?

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Speaker 4: No, No, the thought No. Ultimately, the reason we have

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Speaker 4: to talk about this is because she was having an

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Speaker 4: affair in addition to all her other reasons for this crime,

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Speaker 4: so it is quite literally a thought crime.

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Speaker 5: Is the guy she's having an affair with in in

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Speaker 5: the in that video.

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Speaker 4: That I don't no that. I don't know what were

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Speaker 4: you gonna say, Tom, he's the handyman.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 6: I think you bring up a good point, Jack, is

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Speaker 6: that the idea of I.

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Speaker 7: Think that American culture in general was.

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Speaker 3: Far more.

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Speaker 7: Covert.

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Speaker 6: I guess in family settings of like not like I've

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Speaker 6: noticed this especially in like group settings, is that you'll

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Speaker 6: have parties or like you know, type like block party

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Speaker 6: type things, and they'll have like kind of a table

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Speaker 6: that just has a bunch of alcohol at it. And

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Speaker 6: I feel like that isn't the way that things used

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Speaker 6: to operate.

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Speaker 7: I feel like like.

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Speaker 6: Early, earlier in American culture, even when we were growing up,

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Speaker 6: it was you never saw anything like that. It was like, oh,

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Speaker 6: you know, of course a dad or our mom would

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Speaker 6: be you might have have a beer or something, but

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Speaker 6: they would pour into a cup. And like that was

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Speaker 6: the concept of the red solo cups. It's like you

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Speaker 6: would pour it and like you would, you'd drink it

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Speaker 6: and just kind of be on your own, not just

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Speaker 6: kind of like out there you know, hard liquor things

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Speaker 6: like that. Especially with all the different types of of

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Speaker 6: you know, alcohol and and different things that are out

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Speaker 6: there now, it's just I think there's just like a

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Speaker 6: looseness around that. And then you add on top of

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Speaker 6: that again just weed culture. And I think this is

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Speaker 6: part of the thing, you know, that we talked about

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Speaker 6: with with weed cultures, that it just is so open.

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Speaker 6: It's where people are kind of like they make it

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Speaker 6: their persona and it's a big deal to their life

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Speaker 6: and and drinking to a certain extent, like people kind

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Speaker 6: of feel that way too.

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Speaker 7: And I just don't think that that.

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Speaker 6: I think that's escalated dramatically over the last number of years,

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Speaker 6: and it's it's not healthy but it's particularly well.

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Speaker 1: You know why that is. It's it's the extended adolescence.

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Speaker 5: It's because you have so many, you know, millennials, outer

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Speaker 5: millennials are having kids now, but they haven't matured themselves

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Speaker 5: to the point where they assume that, you know.

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Speaker 1: The responsibilities of adulthood.

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Speaker 5: And they were like, oh, I'm friends with my kids,

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Speaker 5: and I want to be the cool dad and the

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Speaker 5: cool mom, and you know, like those are gonna be

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Speaker 5: the ones that other kids to have alcohol. A lot

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Speaker 5: of them have access to alcohol and.

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Speaker 1: All the rest.

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Speaker 5: And it's this extended adolescence that's killing everybody. I think

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Speaker 5: it's I think it's leading to a lot of problems.

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Speaker 5: I think it's horrible. I think it's it's killing our country.

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Speaker 5: And it's something that I see with so many, you know,

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Speaker 5: so many guys thirties and forties right now where they're

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Speaker 5: still just running around acting like children all the time.

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Speaker 5: And as far as that video, I'm looking at the

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Speaker 5: picture of the guy, So the guy who testified against

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Speaker 5: her does kind of look like one of the guys

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Speaker 5: in the video because he's got a red beard. He's

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Speaker 5: thinner now than the one in the video. So I

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Speaker 5: can't tell for sure if that's.

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Speaker 9: Him drinking makes you fat because he's got that issue drink.

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Speaker 9: I want to get to I want to get this Sava.

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Speaker 9: That's what I want to get to. Because Sesar Shava

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Speaker 9: is super based on immigration.

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Speaker 4: Well, we don't want to be bragging about that. We

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Speaker 4: can't be. I mean, hold on, we have.

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Speaker 3: I have mixed opinions about Sesar Javez.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, before we get to that, we have to have

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Speaker 4: plot twist Judo.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no.

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Speaker 9: I'm a fan of his immigration, anti illegal immigration, anti

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Speaker 9: flooding the country with Hispanic illegals because he didn't want

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Speaker 9: them to undercut the wages of the union workers. Now

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Speaker 9: some of his other extracurriculars obviously, Blake take it away.

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Speaker 4: I mean, hold on, we have to get the final

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Speaker 4: Judo flip on this topic.

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Speaker 9: Here, Okay, fine, Jack Jack, we have to we have

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Speaker 9: to get.

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Speaker 4: The final the final note of not in this case real.

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Speaker 1: The reason that the.

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Speaker 5: The case h it's home for a lot of us,

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Speaker 5: not just because it was in Utah, but because of

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Speaker 5: one so I mentioned the defense in this case which

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Speaker 5: didn't exist. I mentioned how the evidence was completely stacked

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Speaker 5: against this woman, Corey Richens and just feels so terrible

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Speaker 5: for those children, by the way, have to.

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Speaker 1: Grow up without really a mom and a dad.

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Speaker 5: Now at this point, and the fact that the lawyer

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Speaker 5: were the defense in this was Kathy Nester and is

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Speaker 5: Kathey Hester, and kath Kathy Nester is also one of

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Speaker 5: the lead state appointed defense attorneys for Tyler Robinson. And

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Speaker 5: I'll just say this that Kathy Hester did not garner.

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Speaker 1: A a strong.

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Speaker 5: Reputation for herself when she h when she was in

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Speaker 5: court during this and I think a lot of people

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Speaker 5: have pointed that out, and it could be a something

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Speaker 5: that we're going to preview pretty soon here.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually glad you did that. That's fascinating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's the big thing.

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Speaker 5: Uh So, what we're seeing here is potentially the stut

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Speaker 5: Now it could be different, totally, totally could be different.

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Speaker 1: You know. So this is the you know, the public defender.

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Speaker 5: Utah is a small state, and you know the fact

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Speaker 5: is that you know, when you have these these capital cases,

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Speaker 5: you know, there's only so many people that are available

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Speaker 5: to be able to handle one.

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Speaker 1: Of these cases.

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Speaker 5: And Kathy Nester happens to be the same one in

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Speaker 5: these two extremely high profile cases, one of which obviously

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Speaker 5: we don't have any connection to, but one of which

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Speaker 5: we all have this connection to. And so just to

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Speaker 5: understand that this is what we're going to see, so

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Speaker 5: the same, you know, not to go into all of

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Speaker 5: the the same type of delayed tactics that we've seen

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Speaker 5: so far, trying to get rid of the prosecutor, trying

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Speaker 5: to do all this other stuff rather than actually discuss

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Speaker 5: the evidence, trying to get cameras out of the courtroom,

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Speaker 5: try to block evidence or discussions of evidence in the courtroom.

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Speaker 5: That's all coming from the same Kathy Nestor who ran

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Speaker 5: the defense for for Re Ridgins.

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Speaker 4: Alrighty, so now we can talk about how you think

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Speaker 4: Caesar Chavez is really based Andrew, which you got to

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Speaker 4: you got to be based And because.

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Speaker 3: I'm not, I'm just saying he was.

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Speaker 9: I think it's a I get a crack up every

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Speaker 9: time the Left lifts up this guy like he was

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Speaker 9: some civil rights icon and then you.

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Speaker 3: Find out, oh, he was beating the crap out of.

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Speaker 9: Illegal immigrants so that they would get the hell out

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Speaker 9: of America's Andrew Andrew.

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Speaker 4: We we got to pause ourselves here. We should not

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Speaker 4: We don't need to highlight the reasons that Caesar Chavez

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Speaker 4: is based if we can highlight the reasons that Caesar Chavez,

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Speaker 4: left wing hero is a rapist, which is what they

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Speaker 4: use is today. But for those who have not seen it,

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Speaker 4: we should explain what we're getting that here. Then it's

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Speaker 4: been coming out over the last one you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: But the New York Times has a mammoth story this morning.

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Speaker 4: Caesar Chavez, civil rights icon, is accused of abusing girls

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Speaker 4: four years. This feels like a black I feel like.

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Speaker 5: We got this is the same Caesar Chavez that, like

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Speaker 5: Barack Obama, has been constantly holding up that like every

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Speaker 5: single Democrat, like major Democrat, talks about for all for

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Speaker 5: all these years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or the same Caesar Chavez that has a holiday

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Speaker 4: here in Phoenix. Government offices will be closed on March

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Speaker 4: thirty first for Jabez Day. Some schools we'll get a

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Speaker 4: day off. Tucson schools will have a day off. Actually

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Speaker 4: I have no idea if that's a weekend date or not.

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Speaker 4: It is a Tuesday. Yeah, they'll be closed in Tucson

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Speaker 4: to honor this guy. And I mean we've got it

653
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Speaker 4: right here in the New York Times, The New York

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Speaker 4: Times hasn't covered extensive evidence to support accusations from a

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Speaker 4: whole bunch of women, and this is that Caesar Chavez

656
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Speaker 4: was reportedly grooming and abusing girls as young as age twelve.

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Speaker 4: The story opens with a very lurid account the man

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Speaker 4: Caesar Chavez was one of the most revered figures in

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Speaker 4: the Latino civil rights movement. He was forty five. She

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Speaker 4: Anna Marguilla was thirteen. She says she was summoned for

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Speaker 4: sexual encounters with him dozens of times over the next

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Speaker 4: four years. And yeah, wait.

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Speaker 3: When she turns eighteen, he's stopped.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, it's like it's like ascended Leonardo DiCaprio syndrome.

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Speaker 4: Well hold on, yeah, oh yeah, Actually I feel I

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Speaker 4: feel unsata. I'm fair saying that because they are a caprio. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he just dates twenty something women, but like literally, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I mean I've been looking. We've got right

696
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Speaker 4: here in Arizona. So here's everything in Arizona named after Caesarshava.

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Speaker 4: We have Caesarshavez Community Center and Levigne. We have Caesar

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Speaker 4: Chavez Plaza, Downtown Phoenix Elementary School, Caesar Shaves Community School,

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Speaker 4: Caesarshavez Elementary School, Caesarshavez Building on the University of Arizona Campus, Tucson,

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Speaker 4: Caesar Chavez Boulevard, a ceremonial street sign in South Phoenix,

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Speaker 4: Caesarshaves Cultural Center in Luis, Caesar Chavez Drive in El

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Speaker 4: miraj Hardin, Cesar Chavez in Tucson, and a bunch of others,

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Speaker 4: and I mean infinity of those. In California, I think

704
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Speaker 4: there's a very major street they named after Caesar Javez

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Speaker 4: in Los Angeles. I know there's been serious push in

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Speaker 4: the past to have Caesar Javaz make it a literal

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Speaker 4: national holiday so that they can have the Latino holiday

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Speaker 4: in addition to MLK days.

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Speaker 9: Well, so that's what I think is driving a lot

710
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Speaker 9: of this is I think there's like a need because

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Speaker 9: you had like MLK for the black community, like a

712
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Speaker 9: bunch of mL black you know, heroes. There's not a

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Speaker 9: ton of Hispanic ones, and so I think that's like

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Speaker 9: the drive here is actually just to appoint somebody from

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Speaker 9: this Hispanic community and is listen, I can say this

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Speaker 9: without being racist because I'm quarter Mexican. Okay, wait, I

717
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Speaker 9: would say, like, what do you mean we have heroes

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Speaker 9: from the Hispatic community.

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Speaker 1: Andrew, you're sitting right.

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Speaker 4: There, Yeah, Andrew, how much do you look up to

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Speaker 4: Caesars show? Like growing up, did you write essays for

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Speaker 4: school about how you wanted.

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Speaker 9: His immigration hardline position Although I don't advocate for beating

724
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Speaker 9: up illegals, was very based and that's all I'm gonna say, no, no,

725
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Speaker 9: no beating up illegals unless they attack cobs.

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Speaker 3: But he did not want them.

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Speaker 9: And I always find that that hypocritical position with the

728
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Speaker 9: modern left, that's like open borders to just be so laughable.

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Speaker 9: Every time they celebrate Caesar Shavz and lift him up.

730
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Speaker 9: I'm always like, you know, he just like beat the

731
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Speaker 9: crap out of illegals, right, he didn't want them lowering

732
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Speaker 9: the wages for America. And you kind of think about

733
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Speaker 9: this with Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders used to be really

734
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Speaker 9: tough on the border and that kind of changed. But

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Speaker 9: we see that from Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton like Normy's.

736
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Speaker 9: So Caesar Shavez is a great reminder of the hypocrisy

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Speaker 9: of the modern Democrat Party.

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Speaker 3: So for that he's useful.

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Speaker 5: So Blake, can you can you walk us through because

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Speaker 5: we before we just laugh at the left. Can you

741
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Speaker 5: walk us through a little bit of just how is

742
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Speaker 5: it that this story broke? I mean, this is obviously

743
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Speaker 5: something for a long time ago. What's the you know,

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Speaker 5: what's the story of the story here?

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Speaker 4: Well, so I think i'd have to read it because

746
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Speaker 4: I know this is bubbling up in a few places.

747
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: But the New York Times story dropped this morning. But

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Speaker 4: I know people were already complaining about him a few

749
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Speaker 4: days ago. So I think what's really been going on

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Speaker 4: is there have been women who have been starting to

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Speaker 4: talk more, and so I think the word was getting

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Speaker 4: around that a lot was gonna drop, and the New

753
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 4: York Times was pretty disciplined about it. They they cite

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Speaker 4: two women, miss Margua and another woman, Deborah Rojas, and

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Speaker 4: they're talking about getting abused in the seventies when he

756
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Speaker 4: was in his forties and they were teenagers. An investigation

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Speaker 4: by The New York Times has un covered extensive evidence

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Speaker 4: for their stuff. I believe they literally say, they say

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Speaker 4: somewhere in this article how many it was, But it's

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Speaker 4: like a very large number, And it just seems like

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Speaker 4: a lot of people you knew about it, and like

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Speaker 4: they just started talking about it. I think honestly because

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Speaker 4: of the ramping up in efforts to officially memorialize Javez,

764
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Speaker 4: that seems to have driven a lot of them to

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Speaker 4: finally say something.

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Speaker 1: And she's wow, So I'm looking at it right now.

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Speaker 5: It says one of them actually was dollar a Suerta

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Speaker 5: and she was like his that was like his public

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Speaker 5: partner in United farm Workers in UfW. So I mean,

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Speaker 5: this is not someone who is just sort of a random,

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Speaker 5: you know, you know, random person that this is exactly,

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Speaker 5: you know, like his public co founder of.

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Speaker 1: UfW.

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Speaker 5: She's ninety six, and she's saying, yeah, she is publicly

775
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Speaker 5: stating that he raped her multiple times in the nineteen sixties,

776
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Speaker 5: claims that both resulted in pregnancies. She kept them secret

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Speaker 5: cheerings for the children to be raised by under other families,

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Speaker 5: and she claimed that they were forced acts. Then there's

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Speaker 5: another there's other women who came out and said that

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Speaker 5: the abuse began around age twelve or thirteen and included

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Speaker 5: a rape at age fifteen in the nineteen seventies. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's it's to your point that these women are now

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Speaker 5: because it's been so many years later that you know,

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Speaker 5: some of them. I think, like for Dollar Swerta, that

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Speaker 5: she's you know, she's ninety six. She's probably thinking that

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Speaker 5: probably doesn't have that much time left and wanted to,

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Speaker 5: you know, wanted to come public with this.

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Speaker 1: But to to really correct the record.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like sold the stars, all the left wing

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Speaker 9: stars have fallen. First it was Harvey Milk. Now it's

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Speaker 9: Caesar Chavez. I mean, ye know, he was in his forties,

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Speaker 9: by the way, groomed and repeatedly molested Anna Maguilla Murguagulla.

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Speaker 9: I can't even say it, starting at age thirteen, continued

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Speaker 9: seventeen and molested then raped Deborah Rojas groped at twelve,

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Speaker 9: raped at fifteen while a virgin at UfW sites.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like literally like he's doing one of his marches,

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Speaker 4: like I guess he would have. He had a week

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Speaker 4: long march across California and he was having this fifteen

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Speaker 4: year old stay in his motel room during the march,

801
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Speaker 4: like he just has his has his side chicks. They're

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Speaker 4: literally underage teenagers. Even at the time, like often you know,

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Speaker 4: the excuse you'll always get, oh it was an earlier time,

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Speaker 4: but like, no, everyone would have think this was incredibly disturbing.

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Speaker 4: Even in the seventies when this was taking place, and

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Speaker 4: it seems okay. Yeah, New York Times they interviewed more

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Speaker 4: than sixty people, including his top aides, to get to

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Speaker 4: the bottom of this story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this this is.

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Speaker 9: A very widely corroborated story over sixty plus interviews, union documents,

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Speaker 9: photos prompted immediate cancelation of Chaves Day events and honors.

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Speaker 9: So the dude's fallen from You know. What's interesting though,

813
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Speaker 9: is like once you get to the the a level

814
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Speaker 9: within the Democrat sort of progressive hierarchy of heroes, even

815
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Speaker 9: allegations of sexual misconduct are not necessarily enough to bring

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Speaker 9: you down, right. So like MLK, there's allegations that he

817
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Speaker 9: raped women and the FBI wiretapped him. He was he

818
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Speaker 9: had a different woman in every city he would go

819
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Speaker 9: to for all these marches. He had women in Vegas

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Speaker 9: he had women in la he had women in Boston,

821
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Speaker 9: women in Florida, and at least on one occasion, right,

822
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Speaker 9: he the allegation was a rape allegation, I believe forced

823
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Speaker 9: sexual assault.

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Speaker 1: I think it was that he was in the room.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the claim is the claim from the FBI. He

826
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Speaker 4: wrote it's an FBI rite up because they were recording

827
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Speaker 4: King and the claim was that he was in a

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Speaker 4: room with a bunch of pastors and some women and

829
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Speaker 4: that one of the pastors like sexually assaults a woman

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Speaker 4: in the room, and King is like watching and laughing.

831
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Speaker 4: That's such an odd description that I do wonder what

832
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Speaker 4: literally would have been happening. Supposedly this stuff still could

833
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Speaker 4: be released. They keep delaying the release of it, but

834
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm I'm in favor of transparency on

835
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Speaker 4: public figures, and but man, we really dodged a bullet

836
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Speaker 4: on this one. I'm looking now. I remember this story

837
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Speaker 4: from a decade ago. There was an NPR story Caesar

838
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Speaker 4: Chavez the next Catholic saint. I'm really glad they didn't

839
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Speaker 4: go down that go down that route sign.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's an interesting question.

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Speaker 9: Okay, so what if they make a saint out of

842
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 9: Caesar Chavez, right, but then they find out like a

843
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Speaker 9: few years later that he was actually a rapist in.

844
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Speaker 3: A pedophile too.

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Speaker 9: What happens then, can you like de sanctify or does

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Speaker 9: the church never get it wrong?

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Speaker 4: I don't really think you can undo it like it's

848
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Speaker 4: supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: So andrew that that like that process.

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Speaker 5: So like take a look at Fulton Sheen right now,

851
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Speaker 5: So Fulton Sheen is someone who's up for sainthood even

852
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Speaker 5: though he passed away gosh, fifty sixty years ago. That

853
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Speaker 5: that is all stuff that would come out during the

854
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Speaker 5: canonization process.

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Speaker 9: These women hadn't have come out with it it.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not, but I'm saying that it is not

857
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Speaker 5: something that is quick, is what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 5: For the vast majority. For the vast majority of people,

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Speaker 5: I'm Carlo Acutis. You know some people, it has moved

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Speaker 5: jump all the second obviously has moved a little faster.

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Speaker 5: But for the vast majority of people who become canonized,

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Speaker 5: it is an extremely laborious process where they do investigate

863
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Speaker 5: all sorts of things like this or whether or not

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Speaker 5: they were associated with anything.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying what they know, they really dialed that back.

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Speaker 4: That was a note that was a criticism of I

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Speaker 4: believe John Paul the Second he got They used to

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Speaker 4: have a position called, I think literally the Devil's advocate,

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Speaker 4: and he would argue against the sainthood of somebody for

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Speaker 4: that reason.

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Speaker 1: But that's that, that's part of the process.

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Speaker 4: But I believe John Paul the Second got rid of it,

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Speaker 4: and so we have a lot more saints getting now,

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Speaker 4: and like that's why, that's one reason you now the

875
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Speaker 4: one like the go to Japan and he'll just have like,

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Speaker 4: here's forty new saints, because like they've streamlined the process,

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Speaker 4: and like Chess became a.

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Speaker 5: Change, France has changed a lot, all right, Francis changed

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Speaker 5: a lot, to say the least. But one of the

880
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Speaker 5: reasons that the traditional process is what I'm speaking of,

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Speaker 5: is so laborious. Just one example of that is that

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Speaker 5: there's currently only one male saint from for the entire

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Speaker 9: I'm just saying, what if you didn't know, what if

908
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Speaker 9: this Dolores or whatever the guy's name is didn't speak

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Speaker 9: up at ninety six years old and you'd already made

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Speaker 9: him a saint. Is there a process for rolling it back?

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Speaker 5: Communicated in the past, So, I mean, I'm sure, I'm

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Speaker 5: certain there'd be a process. I'm just saying that would be.

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Speaker 3: Has it ever happened before?

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Speaker 4: There have sort of been saints where they there have

915
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Speaker 4: been saints where they have kind of stopped encouraging the

916
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Speaker 4: celebration of them. And like as an example, there used

917
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Speaker 4: to be medieval saints who would be child saints and

918
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Speaker 4: the reason they were a saint was this is awkward

919
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Speaker 4: to say, but this I'm not making this up, is

920
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Speaker 4: they were children who were allegedly abducted and murdered by Jews.

921
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Speaker 4: And so there those were saints that they had in

922
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Speaker 4: the Middle Ages. Unfortunately, there was a lot of anti

923
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Speaker 4: Semitism in the past and tours over time. I think

924
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Speaker 4: Martin of Tours is like that. There's definitely, uh. I

925
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Speaker 4: think there was one from the UK. I think like

926
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Speaker 4: in Lincoln, Yeah, little Saint Hugh of Lincoln that was

927
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Speaker 4: from the twelve hundred. So, like you know, alleged martyrs

928
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Speaker 4: where today we would say they were probably not martyred

929
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Speaker 4: for their faith, and I think if you wanted to

930
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Speaker 4: take an edge case, you could say, we could still

931
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Speaker 4: say they're a saint, because a saint really is just

932
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Speaker 4: anyone who's in heaven and an innocent child who dies,

933
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Speaker 4: and we have every reason to believe they were innocent.

934
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Speaker 4: And you know, pious, no, no it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not Martin of Tours, I had that Wrong's Martin.

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Speaker 4: The Saint Hugh of Lincoln is definitely one. But there's

937
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Speaker 4: a lot of these, and so like you could still

938
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Speaker 4: say there, you know, they're still presumably a saint. There

939
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Speaker 4: is no reason to believe that they would be damned,

940
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Speaker 4: but they're probably not. We probably don't want to memorialize

941
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Speaker 4: them because the reason for them being memorialized as a

942
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Speaker 4: martyr was mistaken. But we should be honest, like it

943
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Speaker 4: is a real concern. There was I forget his name.

944
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Speaker 4: There was kind of a.

945
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Speaker 1: Dr Simon of Trent I was totally There was a.

946
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Speaker 4: Mexican founder of a religious order I think was it

947
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Speaker 4: Legionaries of Christ. I think where the founder of that group.

948
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Speaker 4: After he died, there was a lot of agitation, oh,

949
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Speaker 4: he should be a saint, And then it also quickly

950
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Speaker 4: came out that he had like a mistress of some kind,

951
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Speaker 4: and I believe he was a priest. Uh And so

952
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Speaker 4: that is a reason to be careful with these things.

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Speaker 4: That is why we are very lucky they did not

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Speaker 4: rush down the Caesar Shavez route or the root for

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Speaker 4: the sainthood for a lot of other people. And as

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Speaker 4: for the rest, we put our trust in the Holy Spirit,

957
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Speaker 4: I suppose.

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Speaker 5: Uh So, according to Groc, According to Groc that the

959
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Speaker 5: Catholic Church has never formally decanonized a saint.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I haven't heard it, but.

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Speaker 3: The Russian Orthodox Church has though.

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Speaker 1: And then it mentions I could check. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I looked it up and it says that, yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: talking about how different feast days and different individuals have

965
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Speaker 5: been you know, downgraded, and sort of the celebration of

966
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Speaker 5: that saint has been downgraded. But you know, and it's

967
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Speaker 5: it's it, and in those cases it's it's really more

968
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Speaker 5: to do to things like you know, not being able

969
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Speaker 5: to verify certain things about their life, like Saint Valentine

970
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Speaker 5: is a classic example of this, where we all know

971
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Speaker 5: Valentine's Day, Saint Valentine's Day, but you know details of

972
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Speaker 5: the actual Valentine's life are very very spotty. It's it's

973
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Speaker 5: just not very well documented the way that the Church

974
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Speaker 5: would normally like for a saint. So obviously we all

975
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Speaker 5: celebrate Saint Valentine's Day, you know, sort of in in

976
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Speaker 5: the culture, but it's not really emphasized in the church.

977
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Speaker 3: So yeah, be careful who you canonize. Catholics.

978
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Speaker 4: Yeah, careful, I mean, but Wills we should remind everyone

979
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Speaker 4: remember yes we can. The Obama line, well, if you're alling,

980
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Speaker 4: you don't, but anyone who's my age or older, they remember,

981
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Speaker 4: yes we can. That is from Caesar Shava, that kind of.

982
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Speaker 5: And oh wait, no, I was I was a little

983
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 5: bit right, by the way, because Saint Martin of Tours

984
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Speaker 5: was considered for removal of his feast day but ultimately

985
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Speaker 5: did remain as his uh maintain his fees. So I

986
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Speaker 5: knew there was something about Martin Tours, but he wasn't

987
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Speaker 5: a child saying.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know. So okay, maybe there's whether they

989
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Speaker 4: can get rid of saint? Can the left get rid

990
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Speaker 4: of a saint? Well, they definitely tear down people while alive. Actually,

991
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Speaker 4: can we get yeah, the left can get rid of saints?

992
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Speaker 7: Here here's the easier thing.

993
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 6: Can we get his name peeled off of elementary school?

994
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Speaker 8: Publicize?

995
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: We should we should demand that people, we should ask

996
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: we're literally in the Phoenix. We should just demand that

997
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Speaker 4: people go into the next city council meeting to demand this.

998
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, this should be easy.

999
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: Wait, so I was doing this on turning new causes

1000
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Speaker 3: is sure love it?

1001
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: Like what was uh blake? Who was the.

1002
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Speaker 5: Wasn't there a whole like Ivy League thing where they

1003
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Speaker 5: were trying to it was, Oh, they were trying to

1004
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Speaker 5: get rid of Columbus's name from different things, and there

1005
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Speaker 5: was like that whole Uh, we have to remove the

1006
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Speaker 5: name Columbus from everything, and then you know, anyone with

1007
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Speaker 5: a slaveholder, So we had to get rid of like

1008
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Speaker 5: anything that says called you know named its Tumul Jackson

1009
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Speaker 5: or Robert E.

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Speaker 1: Lee.

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00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 5: But then I was pointing out that that Yale Yale

1012
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Speaker 5: University is named for Elihu Yale, who was himself a

1013
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Speaker 5: slave owner.

1014
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Speaker 1: So I was saying that anyone who has a Yale

1015
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: degree or.

1016
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Speaker 5: Like, I was looking up CNN reporters who had like

1017
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Speaker 5: Yale in their in their Twitter profiles and saying that,

1018
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 5: you know, how how dare because they were saying you

1019
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 5: benefited from slavery, right, so anyone who has a Yale

1020
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 5: degree benefited from slavery that if you want.

1021
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: I think, actually we have a commentor here Ray dev

1022
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 4: points out, and I think it's actually worth citing. I

1023
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 4: got what's going on? Is he no longer fits their

1024
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: narrative and like, why is this only coming out now?

1025
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: Come on? So I think this is actually sorry Andrew,

1026
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 4: I think this gets back to what you were trying

1027
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 4: to point out. So when Caesar Chavez was feeling the

1028
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 4: need of oh, we've got oppressed laborers in the US,

1029
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 4: and so we need more socialism or whatever for them.

1030
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 4: And also you know, their Hispanics, so we need another reason,

1031
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: right to like elevate new heroes in that way, then

1032
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 4: Caesar's shovez was useful to them. But as more people

1033
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 4: are aware of, oh, he also didn't like immigration, there

1034
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 4: were other ways where you could say he was not

1035
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: in step with modern lib narratives of open borders and

1036
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 4: so on. Okay, now we can chuck this guy as

1037
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 4: part of our great process of getting rid of everyone

1038
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: before the year twenty twenty. But I don't know that

1039
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: we want to race to pick up Caesar Shavez. The

1040
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 4: story looks pretty bad.

1041
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 9: I'm not picking them up, but if they pick them up,

1042
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 9: I'm gonna smack him for it, because I.

1043
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: Think you were kind of picking them up a little

1044
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: bit there. I think you were. I think you were

1045
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: considering it.

1046
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 5: No, definitely, not a little bit, but maybe maybe twenty

1047
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 5: five percent.

1048
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: Twenty yeah, maybe twenty five percent. I'm okay with that.

1049
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm alright with that.

1050
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 4: Hey, we have ten you guys to go.

1051
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: I have a question for you. I have a question

1052
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: for you.

1053
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 9: If on X they included a down vote, would you

1054
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 9: support it? Would you give a thumbs up to a

1055
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 9: thumbs down?

1056
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 7: I think it's already been rolled out, isn't it.

1057
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: They teased it's what we're talking.

1058
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: I haven't hit it yet.

1059
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: I think my favorite take is like, we should have

1060
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: a dislike button, but it should be just like voting.

1061
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: It should be restricted to mail to property owning males

1062
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: and then their wives who have had children. Yep, didn't they.

1063
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: Get rid of the YouTube video?

1064
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, about five years they got rid of dislikes.

1065
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 5: So the question but then like all the all the

1066
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 5: pepees went in and were like that stupid. So the

1067
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 5: Anon's made up there, made up like a script to

1068
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 5: be able to bring it back.

1069
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's not the same. I mean, the reason

1070
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 4: they got rid of dislikes was actually that was like

1071
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 4: a great element of the backlash to peak woke was

1072
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 4: it started happening because you'd get these incredibly horrible film trailers,

1073
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 4: TV trailers, game trailers, and they or a really awful

1074
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 4: political ad and they would just get annihilated. Ninety to

1075
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 4: ten or ninety nine to one. That level of ratio,

1076
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: like it's the true ratio as opposed to the fake

1077
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: Twitter ratio of like comments to retweets or whatever people

1078
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 4: go for. And so I think it'd be good to

1079
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 4: have that, like you can just get a direct measure

1080
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 4: of how much people are liking it. But on admittedly

1081
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: on X like excess full of bots, so everything's gonna

1082
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 4: get boded really hard.

1083
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 7: Got to get boded. But here here's wait way.

1084
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 5: But but there's another potential up upgrade to this where

1085
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 5: that they're looking at where you can set and I

1086
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 5: like this region filters, So you could potentially set it

1087
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 5: up so that your tweet could only go to certain

1088
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 5: regions and that you could only interact with certain people

1089
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 5: from certain parts of.

1090
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Speaker 3: The world, so like America would be a region correct. Nice.

1091
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's like goes by continent maybe or

1092
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 5: or you know, I don't know exactly how it's gonna

1093
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 5: happen yet, but.

1094
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm all in. See here's here's my big thing.

1095
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 5: And I've said this public a few times because that's

1096
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 5: due with the payouts, because people are totally gaming the

1097
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 5: payouts system on X. What you should have to do

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Speaker 5: is that if so, the payouts are not by impressions.

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00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 5: A lot of people get this wrong. Payouts are by replies.

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Speaker 5: Elon said this, everyone said this early on, but then

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00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 5: I see people complaining and saying, oh, well, I got

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00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 5: this many impressions.

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Speaker 1: But it's not about that. It's about replies, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, verified replies.

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Speaker 5: So if you've just got like if you're just a

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00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 5: slop merchant, that's just like you know, churning out the

1107
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 5: purveying of the slat paganda all day long, that you're

1108
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 5: not necessarily going to get that unless you get the

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Speaker 5: verified replies. However, Comma, what I would say is that

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Speaker 5: you should set it so that the companies that are

1111
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 5: advertising that that those ad dollars should only be able

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00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 5: to go to regions that they want them to go to.

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Speaker 5: So if you're you know, if you're an American based company,

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00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 5: you want that you want those ad dollars going to

1115
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 5: American accounts that are reaching an American audience, right, Like,

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00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 5: that's how basic advertising works. So is that the way

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00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 5: that it works. Because if you've got an account that's

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Speaker 5: on another part of the world, that's affecting people in

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Speaker 5: another part of the world. China's got one point eight

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Speaker 5: billion people, India's got one point eight billion, whatever it

1121
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Speaker 5: is that but that is just a waste of money then,

1122
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 5: so that pot of money should stay within the audience

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Speaker 5: and the creators who are part.

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Speaker 7: Of that audience.

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Speaker 9: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you

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Speaker 3: Tyler. You were gonna say something and Jack cut you off.

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Speaker 7: No, I ca I car I was gonna say.

1146
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 6: I think I was gonna say something along the lines

1147
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 6: of the dislikes. I think you're gonna have these these

1148
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 6: scenarios too, where I mean, we've seen this where you know,

1149
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 6: certain content is targeted by people, so it's by bots,

1150
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 6: but also there's you know, meat puppetry that happens what

1151
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 6: they call meat puppetry online.

1152
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 7: Where someone will go to. So if you're targeting.

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00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 6: Blake for example, a lot of people are what happens,

1154
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 6: they'll go to like a Telegram channel and they'll say,

1155
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 6: Blake just posted this, everyone goes dislike it, and that's

1156
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 6: that's a you know, there's that's a sometimes a meat

1157
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Speaker 6: puppetry type SCENARIOA.

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Speaker 4: A lot a lot of the big streamers will do that.

1159
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: They'll just say like, oh, just posted this on X.

1160
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 4: Everyone go like it.

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00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, go like it or dislike somebody else's stuff. I

1162
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 6: think the problem on X is if it's I think

1163
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 6: it's actually I think it's actually a positive not to

1164
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 6: see everyone that likes something. I think it should be

1165
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 6: public who dislike likes it, so as long as interesting,

1166
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 6: so as long as so. I totally understand all the

1167
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 6: arguments for not being visible who likes it because that,

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Speaker 6: you know, but I do think it should be public

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Speaker 6: if you dislike it.

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Speaker 7: Ooh.

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Speaker 9: I do actually find that kind of interesting. When you

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00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 9: post something spicy on X and only you get to

1173
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 9: see who liked it, and you're like, oh, some and

1174
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 9: so like that. It's like very telling, gives you a

1175
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Speaker 9: little lay of the land.

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Speaker 6: But I think it's I think it's impactful, like if

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Speaker 6: you do if they do do the dislike button, I

1178
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 6: think it's important to see who's dislike it because if

1179
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Speaker 6: you say something that's positive and people are just disliking

1180
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 6: it just for disliking its sake, to try to make you.

1181
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Speaker 4: Look bad, so like a bad political.

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Speaker 7: Like so someone on the right.

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Speaker 6: So let's say like this oftentimes will happen, right, is

1184
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 6: I'll post something that's super generic and then like a

1185
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 6: bunch of trolls will just you know, comment on my

1186
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 6: stuff about something that's totally like unrelated on my on

1187
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 6: my feet, has nothing to do with what I'm actually

1188
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 6: talking about. They probably agree with what I'm saying. Yeah,

1189
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 6: So if you have a dislike but this secret though,

1190
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 6: a bunch of those trolls will just dislike it to

1191
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 6: try to make you look bad, even though they actually

1192
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 6: might agree with it. But if it's public, then they

1193
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 6: have to live with that they disagree.

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Speaker 4: I haven't had been on Facebook for six years at

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Speaker 4: this point, and I don't really miss it. But I

1196
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Speaker 4: will say what I did like about Facebook when I

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Speaker 4: was still on it is they had they were up

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Speaker 4: to what like six different reacts you could have, like

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Speaker 4: like dislike, kind of heart eyes react and like I

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Speaker 4: feel this, I don't know. I'm kind of a sucker

1201
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 4: for like a wide range of emote reacts. Like if

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00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: you've ever been in a if you've ever been in

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00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 4: like a Slack group for work or whatever, You've got

1204
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Speaker 4: a million different emotes. Discord's got a million. I am

1205
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 4: like an emote response maximizer. So I think we should

1206
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 4: go all in on this. For X and X should

1207
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Speaker 4: have dozens, if not hundreds, perhaps thousands, millions of potential

1208
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 4: emote reacts. Maybe even have AI. You could ask the

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Speaker 4: AI to generate a custom emote response. Using ROCK you

1210
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Speaker 4: could say, I can only react to this with an

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Speaker 4: image of like a gigantic bald eagle, uh eating out

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Speaker 4: the heart of Caesar Chavez, like, and then it just

1213
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Speaker 4: generates that for you as an EMO, and then you

1214
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Speaker 4: you post that and other people can react to the

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Speaker 4: same way.

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Speaker 5: Well that's I mean, you have like a that's like

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Speaker 5: a sticker pack, like you go on the Telegram has

1218
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Speaker 5: sticker packs, and Signal has sticker packs like like that's

1219
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Speaker 5: that's kind of already used on social media, just not Twitter.

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Speaker 4: I don't want stickers. I want AI generated art. I

1221
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Speaker 4: demand this. In fact, if Elon Musk doesn't do this,

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Speaker 4: I am going to I'm gonna be slightly annoyed. And

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Speaker 4: then probably forget I ever made this request.

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 9: Well, Jack is gonna be upset because we didn't get

1226
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 9: to his Val Kilmer thing. But Val Kilmer is being

1227
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Speaker 9: resurrected by Aari.

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Speaker 5: Such a good story. It's no, we we nailed the

1229
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Speaker 5: we got the we got the Kathy or sorry Corey,

1230
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 5: Corey Richins, were we in with again? That's that's Tyler

1231
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 5: Robinson's defense. Where so just just putting that out for everybody,

1232
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Speaker 5: that potential potential preview of things to come.

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Speaker 9: I dislike I'm putting the down vote the mal Kilmer

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 9: coming up to a this was this was limited, It's limited.

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Speaker 1: To just showers.

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Speaker 3: What's that?

1237
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: Now? Her client was found not guilt. Excuse me? Her

1238
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Speaker 1: client was found guilty in three hours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well well I'm I like, I will upvote that.

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Speaker 9: But wait, valcomer, what we oh, Venezuela beat a Team America.

1241
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Speaker 3: That was the other topic we were going to get to.

1242
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 3: Well we don't.

1243
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Speaker 4: I think we're out of time on it. So you

1244
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 4: just have to go up or down President Trump truth

1245
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 4: after they won fifty first state or statehood something like that.

1246
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Speaker 1: What do you want?

1247
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 4: Oh, you're going vote, You're going thumbs down. Yeah, I

1248
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 4: think I can see the humor of it. But no,

1249
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: just to warn everyone, she's wanting to make a state

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Speaker 4: out of countries that have thirty million people who elected

1251
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Speaker 4: a social less president. No, no, I don't want to

1252
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 4: get in twenty eight million people. Like we've seen the

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Speaker 4: problems from the people who have moved from Venezuela to

1254
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Speaker 4: the US. Now imagine the twenty eight million diehards who

1255
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Speaker 4: are like, no, I'm not going to leave Venezuela for

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Speaker 4: the US. No, no, they cannot come in.

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Speaker 5: This is one of the reasons that Greenland is such

1258
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 5: a good idea because the population is so low. So

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Speaker 5: yes is like, for example, as Cuba strategic territory. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: but the populations too high would caused too many problems.

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01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 5: Same with Canada, populations too high, too many migrants, caused

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Speaker 5: too many problems.

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Speaker 1: So vaclage.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's certain things we could look at Greenland.

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Speaker 5: On the other hand, one hundred percent statehood.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, Greenland's bigger, Like if we got Greenland, we'd

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Speaker 4: be bigger than Canada. We'd be like approaching the size

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Speaker 4: of Russia.

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Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of reason to get it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a lot of conservatives that are

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Speaker 6: up in that part of the world that might move.

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Speaker 4: Like, guys, have you seen a Mercader projection? Think about

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01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 4: how huge we'd be on a Mercader projection.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Venezuela's way too. Can you imagine the illegal immigration

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Speaker 6: into Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: Illegal immigration into Venezuela, it would be I think it

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Speaker 4: would be insane.

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Speaker 7: Every cologne.

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Speaker 9: I know Alaska and Hawaii kind of break this rule,

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01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 9: but I do think you should have to be connected

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Speaker 9: to the lower forty eight generally speaking, these Alaska, fine, whatever.

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Speaker 4: I actually the exact opposite in that America's shape, the

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Speaker 4: forty eight state shape is actually a very good shape. Like,

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Speaker 4: it's very iconic looking. It's got the right amount of

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01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 4: smooth and jagged edges and all of that. Like, it's

1286
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 4: a good shape. So like when we see those maps

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Speaker 4: where if we added Alberta, America would look stupid in silhouette.

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01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 4: If we added Alberta, we'd have this big dongle on

1289
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Speaker 4: the end of it. It would be awful. I would like,

1290
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Speaker 4: we really have to think about these things, guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Tyler, what about the will be already of Florida?

1292
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 5: What about the You know what about our plan for

1293
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 5: Arizona to get its.

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Speaker 6: Beach ta see that little strip, see that that wouldn't

1295
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 6: add that much onto the map, So it really wouldn't change.

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Speaker 6: You could actually just drop that Arizona. It goes if

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Speaker 6: you went straight across the southern border of Arizona all

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Speaker 6: the way to the water, you could pretty much get

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Speaker 6: it straight straight across the water. So you really want

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Speaker 6: to notice that much.

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Speaker 5: It's and I actually think that border will have to

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Speaker 5: extend all of the borders down.

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Speaker 7: No, but it doesn't extend.

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01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 6: The southern border of Arizona already is is flat all

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01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 6: the way across that can go straight to water. It

1306
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 6: goes up just slightly to dodge the water. It's stupid

1307
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 6: because it makes no sense. Yeah, you're right, No, it

1308
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 6: makes you know that we were it makes no sense.

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Speaker 6: You did you know that President Polk's original demand was

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Speaker 6: for all of Baja almost like a few more states,

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Speaker 6: and folks demand was all the way down to like

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Speaker 6: pass like uh was it DURINGO.

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Speaker 4: It was it was basically like you we have gotten

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Speaker 4: like Chihuahua, Sonora, like those.

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Speaker 7: Mexico City and then and then you get.

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Speaker 5: All of.

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Speaker 8: And Baja and all Baha and no, but then you

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Speaker 8: would also get what's what's the place where Ted Cruise

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Speaker 8: went on vacation that everyone got upset about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, but I don't want But Polk wanted the Yucatan. No,

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Speaker 4: we don't need any of that nonsense. No, Polk like

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Speaker 4: just wanted the desert and we should have got the Dosert.

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Speaker 7: No, Polk wanted the Yucatan.

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Speaker 4: But the Yukatan is is wanted the jungle. I don't

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Speaker 4: want the jungle.

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Speaker 7: He wanted the jungle. He had a little jungle feed.

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Speaker 1: There's there's some interesting It's no, it's not just jungle though.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing.

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Speaker 5: There's this would totally derail this. But they've they've used

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Speaker 5: like new light our sensors to you know, do some

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Speaker 5: some like almost infrared style mapping of the jungle. And

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Speaker 5: there's like all these ancient Mayan cities in there and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, here's the problem. If we absorbed the ancient Mayan temples,

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Speaker 4: we would inherit the ancient Mayan curse, and that would

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Speaker 4: curse the United States.

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Speaker 9: That's why would inherit the modern lions that would vote

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Speaker 9: against us, like Caesar Chavez. Yes, and there we are

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Speaker 9: full circle.

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Speaker 1: We've done it, folks.

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Speaker 5: We always all right, Jack, take us home, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 5: as always go out there and commit more thought

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