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Speaker 1: Nine seven one seven two four to three, Triple eight

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Speaker 1: News Channel. Now, since the death of Rob Reiner and

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Speaker 1: from Schindler's List has been funding anti Israel groups. Does

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Speaker 1: the Somali corruption in Minnesota include corrupt judges? What about

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Speaker 1: to dead and ineligible tenants. Maybe that's redundant. I think

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Speaker 1: that later on. California is considering a well tax for

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Speaker 1: people over a certain level billionaires. What will billionaires do

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Speaker 1: all of this and more? Triple eight nine to seventy one, sage.

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Speaker 1: But first we continue our discussion about the fraud taking

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Speaker 1: and how it's been going on for years right under

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Speaker 1: probably not very many government officials, not many, not very

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Speaker 1: entire role of government in areas of charity. We've talked

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Speaker 1: many times over the years about Milton Friedman's four ways

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we had a caller who told me about a

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Speaker 1: His name is Abdafata Yusef. Over the years, his company

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Speaker 1: Three Minnesota judges similar pattern. Bottom line, the Somali's charged

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Speaker 1: Nick Shirley is that independent journalist that put out that

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Speaker 1: School in twenty twenty. Began producing videos as a teenager,

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Speaker 1: Returned to the country in twenty twenty three with a

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Speaker 5: I look at fraud. The Twin Cities is ground zero.

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Speaker 5: The fraud is worse here than anywhere else. Ever in

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Speaker 6: We're gonna go in front of these people. We're gonna

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Speaker 6: go to these daycare centers. We're gonna see what's actually happening.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so we have to be careful because these people

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Speaker 6: Now, with all of David's evidence, we headed out to

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Speaker 7: Where are we going now, We're going to a place

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Speaker 7: called Mako Childcare, which actually has another childcare registered at

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Speaker 6: So we should see lots of children. There's this childcare centers,

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Speaker 6: especially there's.

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Speaker 5: Two, the two of them combined our license for one

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Speaker 2: And how much money have these childcare centers received.

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Speaker 5: None of those vans have moved in six months. None

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Speaker 5: of them. In twenty twenty one of them received one

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Speaker 5: point three million, and twenty twenty one they got nine

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Speaker 5: out and eighty seven thousand. In twenty twenty two they

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Speaker 5: have for that one, and then the other one one

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Speaker 5: point six zero four million. In fiscal year twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Fiscal year twenty twenty four, they got about eight hundred

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Speaker 5: thousand and twenty. Fiscal year twenty twenty three, they got

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Speaker 5: nine hundred and four thousand and fifty nine dollars.

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Speaker 8: This place right here, yes, outside of it.

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Speaker 5: Well, this is actually two daycares are registered here. One

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Speaker 5: The other one is Many Childcare Center. And between the

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Speaker 5: two of these childcare centers, they're pulling in about three

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Speaker 5: facility is you go to, the windows will be blocked

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Speaker 5: out so you can't see in. There's nobody here. You

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Speaker 5: won't see a single child at any of these facilities.

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Speaker 6: There are indeed no windows. All the windows are blocked

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Speaker 6: out right here. All right, let's go in, No, and

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Speaker 6: the child care is locked. Shoot, ring the doorbell, try

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Speaker 6: to get in. Rang the doorbell. Nobody showed up. They're

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Speaker 6: it says here on their sign. Yet there's absolutely nobody here.

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Speaker 6: And this building here right here has generated millions of dollars,

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Speaker 6: and it seems like business isn't even open right now,

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Speaker 6: and it's a weekday. And if this was a daycare center,

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Speaker 6: it wouldn't just be in some industrialized building there. It'd

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Speaker 5: Or there's no play area for the kids. So where

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Speaker 5: And it's like this every single day. I've never seen

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Speaker 6: Oh, then, now it looks like we've already got the

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Speaker 6: Somali's coming to They're coming the words out, Hello, is

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Speaker 6: this your daycare?

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Speaker 5: No? Can you tell us where there are no children?

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Speaker 5: Have you ever seen children at this childcare center?

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Speaker 6: Doesn't know if she's ever seen a child here? All right,

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Speaker 1: By the way. All of a sudden, now children are

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Speaker 2: How we're going to the next daycare center? How much

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Speaker 5: This one in fiscal year twenty twenty five one million,

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Speaker 5: forty two thousand fifty nine dollars. In fiscal year twenty

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Speaker 5: and in fiscal your twenty twenty three seven hundred and

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Speaker 6: This next one is literally one block away. And this

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Speaker 6: three years. And see if there has and eight children,

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Speaker 6: and see if any of the buildings are open. Here

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Speaker 6: we go, all right, we've arrived to ABC Learning Center.

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Speaker 2: All the windows.

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Speaker 1: More on this when we return. Suddenly, truckloads of children

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Speaker 1: are being busted in Triple eight nine seven one seven

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Speaker 1: Triple eight Nights one s a ge Larry Older, Salem

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Speaker 1: News Channel. Here's the rest of that report from Nick Shirley's.

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 6: All right, we've arrived to ABC Learning Center. All the

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Speaker 6: windows are blocked out. Let's see if anybody is here.

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Speaker 6: This door is locked.

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Speaker 5: This facility has licensed for forty children, zero children. I've

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Speaker 5: come by this place one hundred times. I've never seen

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Speaker 5: a child here. Ever. Another thing I've ever seen is

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Speaker 6: What's crazy about this is that last daycare center is

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Speaker 6: that green building right there, and the other daycare center

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Speaker 6: right now is right here. These buildings should be operating

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Speaker 6: as they're receiving literally millions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: I knocked on the door, into my surprise, somebody actually

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Speaker 6: Hello, can we speak? I would like to check a

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Speaker 6: child in the daycare? Can I speak to a manager?

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Speaker 6: Where can I get paperwork to file for my son?

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Speaker 6: I wanted to put my son Joey in daycare.

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Speaker 2: And after a few questions, the lady went silent.

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Speaker 6: Looks like little Joey Shirley ain't going to daycare here?

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Speaker 2: And now where are we going?

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Speaker 5: Now We're going to Sweet Angel Childcare.

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Speaker 6: We're in the middle of a strip mall here inside

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Speaker 6: of this neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: In fiscal year twenty twenty five, this facility, which sh

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Speaker 5: has its license for seventy four kids, was paid one

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Speaker 5: point two six million dollars in tax money. And there

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Speaker 5: are no kids and all the facility these are the

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Speaker 5: same way, all of them.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if anyone opens.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, let's see.

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Speaker 6: Once again, I try to find a spot for my

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Speaker 6: want to put my son Joey in daycare cause I

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Speaker 6: need a spot to put my son Joey.

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Speaker 2: Yes, is this your daycare center?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to put child in daycare, but all

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Speaker 6: the daycare centers seem to be closed.

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Speaker 2: No one's opening the doors.

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Speaker 5: You work here, oh, e was Yeah, let's help it.

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Speaker 5: Where are the kids? Yeah, says it's license for seventy

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Speaker 5: four children right here? State of Minnesota. Where are the kids?

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Speaker 5: They got paid one point two six million dollars in fister,

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Speaker 5: you're twenty twenty five. It says they have a capacity

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Speaker 5: for seventy four children? When no?

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Speaker 1: When?

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Speaker 5: Where are the kids? Right here? State of Minnesota website?

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Speaker 5: You work here, and you don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I was dead before. I don't know. What's who goes

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Speaker 1: going on?

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Speaker 5: Were there any kids when you worked here?

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Speaker 9: He's dead, he's dead.

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Speaker 5: What's too many? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you worked here?

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, and you're not a n Can I put

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Speaker 6: my son in the daycare here?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 11: Don't.

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Speaker 2: Can I speak to someone?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would like to see if I can put

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Speaker 6: my son Joey here?

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Speaker 1: Who is your son?

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Speaker 8: Joey?

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Speaker 6: My son Joey, Can I check out daycare center my son?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 6: Do you put your kid here in this daycare? There

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Speaker 6: is one child in there. Yeah, I would like to

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Speaker 6: know if this is a legit business.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm scared of you too. How come I explain.

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Speaker 2: You're scared of me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Because of my color. You said you're scared of me

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Speaker 6: because of my color. Does that make you a racist? No,

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Speaker 6: but you said you're You said you're scared of me

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Speaker 6: because of my color. I'm not saying you said you're scared.

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Speaker 2: Of me because of my color, that makes you a racist.

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Speaker 6: So right now they're all getting mad because he's showed

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Speaker 6: the paperwork of this business being registered as a business.

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Speaker 6: Seventy four children have no children? He saw one child

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Speaker 6: when the lady opened up the door. So now they're

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Speaker 6: all getting mad.

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Speaker 5: What was this money spent on one point two six million?

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Speaker 5: What was that doctor? Any kids? After?

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Speaker 2: On the kids?

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Speaker 5: Well? Then why are you talking for the owner? If

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Speaker 5: you're talking talking to you, I'm sorry, I'm not what

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Speaker 5: he's talking about. Do you have a child here?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: Does anybody where are the seventy four kids? Did you

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Speaker 5: lose them? Did you lose these kids? Do I need

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Speaker 5: to call someone. Do I need to issue an Amber

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Speaker 5: alert for missing children?

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Speaker 1: Wow, Joe is in Minneapolis. Joe, you're on the Larry

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Speaker 1: O the show. Thank you so much for calling.

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Speaker 13: Hello, Larry, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm well, sir, How are you very good?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 13: On the quick as side. I would love to find

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Speaker 13: out your football super Bowl pick. I know you're great analysis,

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Speaker 13: but called about the you know what's going on Minneapolis

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Speaker 13: and just listening to that. Back in twenty nineteen, the

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Speaker 13: Legislative auditor, last name is Noble, testified to all these

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Speaker 13: fraudulent preschool daycare centers. He said, who was doing it,

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Speaker 13: how they were doing it. He testified down here at

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Speaker 13: Saint Paul Capitol, you know before the Senator of the House,

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Speaker 13: and he was torn up for it. But he was

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Speaker 13: looking back years and he was talking about fifty percent

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Speaker 13: fraud in these programs, just like the one you had

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Speaker 13: on the radio there. And also to the transportation where

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Speaker 13: they have these mini vans to take people to appointments

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Speaker 13: and all that that that the same was could be anything,

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Speaker 13: you know, fifty percent fraud and he said they run

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Speaker 13: fake schools. He testified to this that they run phony schools.

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Speaker 13: And that the state does not go out and inspect

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Speaker 13: these even though somebody must. I mean the fire department

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Speaker 13: must have to, or the public safety or something, if

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Speaker 13: you know these daycare centers, like I said, preschool, the kindergarten.

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Speaker 13: And he looked at this in two thousand nineteen, testified

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Speaker 13: to the fraudulents and before our own legislature, and he

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Speaker 13: was looking back years in a rearview mirror. You know,

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Speaker 13: this is before COVID, before all the other ones, and

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Speaker 13: it sounds like it's still going on.

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Speaker 1: Joe, thank you very much for the call. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: This is Texas Representative Chip Roy, number fourteen.

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Speaker 4: State level. Look.

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Speaker 14: One of the reasons I'm leaving Congress to run for

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Speaker 14: Attorney general. Medicaid fraud is a central element of being

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Speaker 14: attorney general of a state. Keith Ellison with neck deep

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Speaker 14: in all of this. Keith Ellison is friends, friendly with care,

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Speaker 14: friendly with groups that are affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood.

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Speaker 14: All of this stuff is connected. And if we don't

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Speaker 14: recognize that, then we're not going to win this battle.

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Speaker 14: Because it's a purposeful effort to exploit our laws to

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Speaker 14: allow people to come to this country, try to islamify

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Speaker 14: our country and use the welfare state to do it.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk later on about this business about

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Speaker 1: how much the Somali has come in it contributed to

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Speaker 1: the economy of Minnesota. When you look at what they've

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Speaker 1: taken out, the contribution is Measley. Also, a year ago

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Speaker 1: local ABC and Minnesota did a report on the quality

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Speaker 1: of Learning center, the one that misspelled the word learning

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Speaker 1: that received ninety five violations and still receive millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars in tax payer money. All of this and more.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s A G. E. Triple

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Speaker 1: eight nine one seven two four to three. I am

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Speaker 1: Larry Elder.

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Speaker 9: We are still in the news channel.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one seven two four to three.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s A G. We will

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Speaker 1: continue our discussion about Rod not just in the Somali

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Speaker 1: community in Minnesota, but throughout the country next hour. We've

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Speaker 1: been talking about since the death of Rob Reiner and

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Speaker 1: his wife, presumably by their son, we've been talking about

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Speaker 1: the difficulty of children of celebrities who struggle to find

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Speaker 1: their own identities. We're going to talk to someone who

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Speaker 1: went through a similar challenge and not only survived, but

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Speaker 1: eventually thrived. We're also going to talk about an organization

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Speaker 1: founded by Steven Spielberg with proceeds from the movie Schindler's List.

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Speaker 1: Spilberg didn't take any money from the movie. He said

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Speaker 1: it would be blood money, but he found it an

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Speaker 1: organization to promote Holocaust awareness. However, the organization has given

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Speaker 1: money to anti Israel groups. Spielberg remains on the board

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Speaker 1: of directors. Unclear whether or not he's aware of money

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Speaker 1: going to groups who call Israel apartheid, who accuse Israel

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Speaker 1: of engaging in genocide and of starving children in Gaza.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about this and then later

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Speaker 1: on continue our discussion about the massive fraud going on

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota and elsewhere as to how long this has

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Speaker 1: been going on. This is an ABC Local ABC report

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Speaker 1: that was done a year ago, Number thirteen.

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Speaker 15: Winterton Walls and state lawmakers recently pledged to crack down

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Speaker 15: on fraud and state government programs after scandals questioned their oversights.

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Speaker 16: We got complaints about the childcare assistance program and took

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Speaker 16: a closer look at some of the daycare centers receiving

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Speaker 16: millions of your taxpayer dollars, and we found reports of

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Speaker 16: violations state investigators called a threat to the safety of

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Speaker 16: children at centers that continued to receive those federal dollars.

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Speaker 15: Jay Cole spent months looking into these issues, and he

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Speaker 15: joins us now with what he's found. In a story

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Speaker 15: Seeing First and five, Jay.

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Speaker 17: Lindsay SEACAP is a thirty four million dollars state program

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Speaker 17: that receives federal funding. It benefits more than twelve thousand

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Speaker 17: low income families each month across the entire state. Learning

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Speaker 17: of growing concerns about the program from sources at the capitol,

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Speaker 17: I started looking into some of the daycares receiving the

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Speaker 17: most money. Despite many serious safety violations over multiple years,

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Speaker 17: they continue to receive funding, and now some state lawmakers

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Speaker 17: want an investigation into what they call a lack of

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Speaker 17: oversight of the SEACAP program. I started by visiting Quality

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Speaker 17: Learning Centered Daycare.

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Speaker 1: So it is that four keV which.

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Speaker 17: Sits right in the heart of downtown Minneapolis. Between twenty

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Speaker 17: nineteen and twenty twenty three, the Minnesota Department of Human

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Speaker 17: Services found ninety five violations at this location. They range

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Speaker 17: from failure to keep hazardous items away from children to

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Speaker 17: no records for sixteen children, which include things like immunizations,

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Speaker 17: emergency contacts, and medical needs. So state Investigator's place Quality

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Speaker 17: Learning Center on a conditional license in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 17: I went to the Daycares location several times and only

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Speaker 17: once did I see people there.

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Speaker 1: All. We're going to pick this up later on Triple

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one seven two four to three. I

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Speaker 1: am Larry Elder.

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Speaker 18: Do not leave town, so let's get her teed up off.

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Speaker 1: That Subdigg Triple eight nine seven one s a g

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Speaker 1: E Triple eight nine seven one seven two four to three.

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Speaker 1: I am Larry Elder. We are Salem News Channel. Now,

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Speaker 1: since the death of Rob Reiner and his wife, we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about the difficulty of children of celebrities who

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Speaker 1: find it hard to establish their own identities. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to a child of a big, big celebrity who

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Speaker 1: not only found his own identity, but became very successful

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Speaker 1: in his own right. He is the son of Jerry

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Speaker 1: Lewis and singer Patty Palmer. On his fifteenth birthday, received

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Speaker 1: a set of joms. Three years later, he's performing professionally.

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Speaker 1: He formed a group called Gary Lewis and the Playboys,

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Speaker 1: and he was Nobody's one hit wonder. He had a

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Speaker 1: top hit called This Diamond Ring. He had six others

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Speaker 1: that finished in the top ten. Count me in Save

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Speaker 1: your Heart for Me. She's just my style. Everybody loves

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Speaker 1: a clown. Green Grass sure gonna miss her. He was

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Speaker 1: drafted to the army, served a couple of years, partially

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Speaker 1: in Vietnam, partially in South Korea, and he's agreed to

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Speaker 1: spend some time with us. Please welcome to the program,

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Speaker 1: mister Gary Lewis right. Hi, everybody, Hey Gary, how are you?

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Speaker 8: I'm good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and Gary, you're still going strong. You're still touring.

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Speaker 1: In fact, you're gonna be out here in California on

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Speaker 1: the eleventh of January. Unfortunately, I'm going to be in

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Speaker 1: New York City, so I won't be able to come

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Speaker 1: out and see you. But you're still going strong. My

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Speaker 1: first question. Let me set it up a little bit, Gary,

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Speaker 1: My father was a janitor when I grew up. He

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Speaker 1: had two full time jobs. As the janitor cooked for

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Speaker 1: a family on the weekend because he wanted my mom

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Speaker 1: to be a stay at home mom, which he was

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Speaker 1: until the youngest of us. I have two brothers that

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Speaker 1: the youngest of us was in middle school. My dad

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Speaker 1: went to night school to get into the GED because

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Speaker 1: he left home at the age of thirteen, and then

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Speaker 1: he went to night school to learn how to operate

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Speaker 1: a restaurant. So when I'm ten years old, starts a

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Speaker 1: little restaurant near downtown in La I grew up in

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Speaker 1: south central La Gary, and all my friends had similar jobs.

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Speaker 1: One kid across the street had a father who's a

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Speaker 1: hotel valet. Two fathers were autom mechanics, one guy drove

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Speaker 1: a truck. My best friend Greg, his father was construction worker,

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Speaker 1: work with his hands. These are the kinds of people

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Speaker 1: that I grew up with. So fast forward, Gary, Believe me,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting to a point here. Fast forward Gary. I

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Speaker 1: go to an ivy league college and I meet all

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Speaker 1: these kids on my floor, and I'm just blown away

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Speaker 1: by how nervous many of them were. Insecure. They were

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Speaker 1: almost neurotic because they had fathers who were high achievers,

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Speaker 1: CEOs of corporations, high executives, founders of this, founders of that, doctors, lawyers.

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Speaker 1: Nobody in my neighborhood was like that, And I was

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Speaker 1: struck by how they felt pressured because of what they

655
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: thought their fathers wanted them, wanted them to be, or

656
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: the pressure their fathers put on them to be successful.

657
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: I had nothing like that, And I said, wow, being

658
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: a child of privilege, being a child of money, isn't

659
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: all that it's necessarily cracked up to be. Not that

660
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: it's better to be poor than to be wealthy, but

661
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: my goodness, I had no idea the challenges that people

662
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: like that handle. How did you handle the challenge of

663
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: growing up with your father. I don't think people nowadays

664
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: realize what a big, big deal Jerry Lewis was Martin

665
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: and Lewis the biggest comedy act probably ever. Did they

666
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: break up, He becomes an independent star, filmmaker, actor, director, producer.

667
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and you're his son, You're you're the oldest child.

668
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: Tell me Gary. After I said all of that, what

669
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: was that like?

670
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 8: Well, it's later on in life I found out that

671
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 8: growing up in a wealthy family was an actual curse.

672
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 8: It was it was more of a curse because that's

673
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 8: not reality, that's not the way the world is. So

674
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 8: when I was young, I was kind of a little

675
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 8: cocky kid, you know, you know, like you know, kind

676
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 8: of like the attitude of you know, you know who

677
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 8: I am, you know, and it's terrible. People rejected me

678
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 8: completely because that's the attitude I had too. It wasn't

679
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 8: until I got into the seventies where I wasn't as

680
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 8: popular anymore, and I realized there's a whole other level

681
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 8: of people that it's the reality that is the reality,

682
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 8: people that work hard to get what they get. And

683
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 8: I just I didn't know what I was going to do.

684
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 8: I thought that, well, uh, this is the only thing

685
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 8: I know. Maybe I should be in show business too.

686
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 8: Uh So that's that's the idea I had until I

687
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 8: started recording myself. But but thank thank god the Beatles

688
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 8: came out because they made up my mind for me

689
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 8: what I wanted to do.

690
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 13: Uh.

691
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 8: And I didn't have to think about being as good

692
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 8: as my dad or never having an identity of my own.

693
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 8: I mean, that would have been just pitiful.

694
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: Did you think about going into do you think about

695
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: going into comedy? Did you think about going into movies?

696
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: Did your father expect you to go into comedy, to

697
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: go into movies?

698
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 8: Well I think he did, because I mean, actually that's

699
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 8: what I was thinking too, because that's all I knew that,

700
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 8: That's all I knew you know, growing up in that

701
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 8: In that house, everything was movie talk, movie talk. People

702
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 8: that came over were other big stars and stuff like that.

703
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 8: You know, so I thought that's what was expected to me.

704
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: And were you funny? Like, were you funny?

705
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 19: Oh?

706
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was pretty funny. I mean, I mean I

707
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 8: thought I was funny. But I'm glad I didn't have

708
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 8: to try to prove that, you know, because people would

709
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 8: always sit back in an audience and say, well, let's

710
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 8: let's see if you're as good as your day now,

711
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 8: you know, And I don't want that pressure. I didn't

712
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 8: want that pressure. So thank god for the Beatles.

713
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: You know, was your father aware of the shadow he

714
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: was casting and aware of the pressure that you felt,

715
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: And if so, what did he do about it or

716
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: say about it?

717
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 8: No, he never talked about anything like that. He didn't. Actually,

718
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 8: he didn't talk a lot about anything other than his

719
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 8: life in the movies. You know, I'm not trying to

720
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 8: say he was a bad father.

721
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that was Was he

722
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: a distant father? Was he so consumed with his career?

723
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: He wasn't that you just spent a lot of time

724
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: with him, intimately.

725
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 8: That's that's true. That's how it was, you know. So

726
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 8: at eighteen years old, you know, I heard about the

727
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 8: Beatles for the first time and formed up the original

728
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 8: band out of classmates at this college I was going

729
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 8: to in California, out in Pasadena, And so we played

730
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 8: for about a year and did sorority in fraternity parties

731
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 8: and that kind of stuff for a whole.

732
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Year while you were doing this. Was your father aware

733
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: of this? Did he encourage it?

734
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 8: No?

735
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: He had no idea.

736
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 8: You weren't aware?

737
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 4: Wow?

738
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 8: No, No. My mom was the one that provided all

739
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 8: the instruments, all the rehearsal halls, just everything. And she

740
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 8: told me, don't tell your dad anything about this because

741
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 8: if this project fails, I have to come up with

742
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 8: an excuse as to where his money was.

743
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: So he's completely oblivious to what you're doing.

744
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 8: That's right, completely.

745
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: When did you When did you realize you could sing?

746
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 8: When I when I started, when we played at Disneyland

747
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 8: in summertime of nineteen sixty four, That's that's when I

748
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 8: realized that, you know, and everybody saying, yeah, you sing good,

749
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 8: you hold it two real nice, and this and that

750
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 8: and and that's that's where our producer for Liberty records

751
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 8: saw us playing out in Disneyland.

752
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: So so, Gary, when did your father realize that you

753
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: were doing this? When did your father realize? My goodness,

754
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: my son got a number one hit.

755
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 8: Well, this Diamond Ring went to number one on the

756
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 8: charts and sold a million records in about six weeks.

757
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 8: So I brought him down to Paramount Studios the first

758
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 8: gold record and I signed it to him. And that's

759
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 8: the first he knew of anything about it.

760
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: You're kidding. He had no idea. He didn't hear it

761
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: on the radio. No one told him about it, and

762
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: no friends told him about it. By the way, Jerry,

763
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: you have a son. He's called Gary Lewis and the Playboys.

764
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: He's got a number one hit. Maybe you ought to

765
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: know about this. Nobody told him.

766
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 8: Nobody, nobody in my dad's generation listened to any kind

767
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 8: of rock and.

768
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: Roll when you So, when your dad found out, Gary,

769
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: what was his reaction?

770
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 8: He said, when did you do this? And I told him, well,

771
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 8: a little while ago. But you know, me and Mom

772
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 8: we kept it from you. You'll have to talk to

773
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 8: Mom about that, I told him. And so everything was fine.

774
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 8: I mean everything was fine, you know, because he didn't

775
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 8: have to go through any of the pains of wondering

776
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 8: are they are we gonna make it? Or or are

777
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 8: we good enough? Or whatever? He he just here it

778
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 8: was I gave him the gold record.

779
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: He was proud of you.

780
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I'm sure he was, you know. But I

781
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 8: kept having hit after hit after hit, and I kind

782
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 8: of noticed a little change in him. Uh and and

783
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 8: I took that as could be a little jealousy.

784
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: Let's let's put it. Let's put a pin right there.

785
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: We'll pick it up on the other side. I'm talking

786
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: to Gary Lewis of Gary Lewis and the Playboys, and

787
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you out being drafted by

788
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: the army as well. Triple eight nine seven one seven

789
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: two four to three.

790
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 4: Know that.

791
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 14: Was bad.

792
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 8: Time hundred.

793
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: She could get on a finger.

794
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: Nine seven one seven two four three, Triple eight nine

795
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: Sember one seven two four three Larry Eldest dalem News Channel.

796
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: Besides the Loving Spoonful, Gary Lewis and the Playboys was

797
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: the only other actor in the nineteen sixties to have

798
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: its first seven hot one hundred releases reached the charts

799
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: top ten percent. My guest is Gary Lewis. Gary, you

800
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: were just saying that you since a little bit of

801
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: perhaps jealousy on the part of your dad because of

802
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: hit after hit after hit.

803
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I did feel bad. Uh And the reason probably

804
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 8: for that was U that was the period of time

805
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 8: that he was having difficulty come went up with a

806
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 8: good property to make a movie. He was having trouble

807
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 8: writing stuff and all that, and he put out some

808
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 8: movies that were just flops, you know. So I guess

809
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 8: my continued success just kind of got to him a

810
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 8: little bit. And that's what I felt. He never said so,

811
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 8: but that's what I felt. But it's it's no big

812
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 8: deal really, you know. I mean he had had to

813
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 8: go through whatever he had to go through too.

814
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: Of course, now you got into a drug scene, yep.

815
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: Talk to us. Talk to us about that, and how

816
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: did your father react?

817
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 8: Okay? In Uh, well, I went into the army in

818
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 8: sixty sixty six, and when I came out in sixty

819
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 8: eight that you know, there were all these new people

820
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 8: on the scene like Jimmy Hendricks and Janie Choplin, the

821
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 8: doors much harder rock and roll. And my producer told me,

822
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 8: he says, I'm sorry, there's just no more market for you.

823
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 8: Boom just like that. I said, well, okay, I'll see you.

824
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 8: And the pain of that not being popular anymore led

825
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 8: to drinking, and the drinking led to doing drugs, and

826
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 8: it was the most pitiful existence I've ever had. And

827
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 8: so back in two thousand and three I got clean

828
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 8: and sober, and this May it'll be twenty three years

829
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 8: clean and sober. So thank you, and I'm I'm actually

830
00:51:54,520 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 8: kind of glad that i have that desperation period, just

831
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 8: not knowing what the heck to do. And now I'm

832
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 8: in a great place, playing all the time, having a

833
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 8: great time doing it too. I've got a great band now,

834
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 8: and so it's good to know both sides. I didn't

835
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 8: think so then, but you know, now that I'm clean

836
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 8: and sober, I look back on it and I said, well,

837
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 8: I probably had to go through that.

838
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: So Gary on, what kind of friction did it cause

839
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: you and your father when you were during your drug period.

840
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 8: Well, the funny thing about it is that during my

841
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 8: drug period I stole his drugs, So that's different, I know.

842
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 8: I mean, he he was on painkillers for the longest

843
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 8: time because he always took those pratfalls, yes, real high

844
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 8: pratfalls on stage, and he heard at his back real bad.

845
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 8: So he was. He was taking painkillers since he was

846
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 8: twenty six and he died in ninety one and he

847
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 8: never stopped.

848
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: All right, Oh, so Gary, at some point, you get married,

849
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: you have kids, talk to us about that.

850
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 8: Uh well, yeah, yeah. The job that we did just

851
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 8: before I got drafted in the Army was we played

852
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 8: the Philippine Islands in the sixties and oh that was

853
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 8: a wonderful, wonderful gig. And I met a girl there,

854
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 8: and so we were courting over the phone for about

855
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 8: a year, and so finally we decided I'll just fly

856
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 8: her out and we'll get married, you know. And so

857
00:53:53,600 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 8: that that was a mistake. Here was a mistake. And

858
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 8: then I had three other mistakes too, of course, because

859
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 8: I wasn't off drugs and alcohol yet. So I had

860
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 8: a pitiful married life. It was terrible. But I do

861
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 8: have a daughter by the first marriage, and she was

862
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 8: born in nineteen sixty eight, so she's fifty something, sixty,

863
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 8: maybe she's sixty, I don't know. I haven't thought about it.

864
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: Let's go back to your being drafted in the army.

865
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: You were affluence, You had influence. You could have figured

866
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: a way to get out of the draft. You chose

867
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: not to do that. Talk to us about why not.

868
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 8: Well, when I got my draft notice, I opened it

869
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 8: up and looked at it, and I wasn't surprised it

870
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 8: was my draft notice. And the first thing I said was, well,

871
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 8: Elvis did it, I'll do it, you know. And then

872
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 8: everybody's saying, but you dad it.

873
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 1: Elvis didn't do it during the Vietnam War.

874
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 8: Well, right, but that's what I thought of, you know,

875
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 8: I mean, he did it, he didn't complain about it.

876
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 8: I'm not going to complain.

877
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Your assumption, Gary was that your career would just continue

878
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: to go. You'd release songs as he did during your

879
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: period of time, you come out bigger than you were

880
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: when you entered.

881
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 8: That's what I thought. But it didn't happen that way

882
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 8: because of all the new rock and rollers that came

883
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 8: about in nineteen sixty eight. So what I had to

884
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 8: do in order to keep playing, I had to play

885
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 8: clubs and do four and five sets a night. You know.

886
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 8: It was hard, it was really hard, but I kept working.

887
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 8: That's what I did until nineteen eighty four, when this

888
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 8: agent called me and said, hey man, the sixties are

889
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 8: coming back. I said, who is this? You know, I

890
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 8: almost hung up. He says, no, no, for real, I said.

891
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 8: He said, I can book you sixty to one hundred

892
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 8: dates a year. And I said, well, if you can

893
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 8: do it, I'll plan. And sure enough, that's what's been happening.

894
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: Gary, you have siblings. How did your siblings handle the

895
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: same kind of pressure and shadow that you had to

896
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: deal with?

897
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 8: Good question, because one of my brothers came to me

898
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 8: one time and said, oh, it wasn't enough that that.

899
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 8: We gotta we got to hear, Oh, how's your dad,

900
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 8: how's your dad? What's he done? And how's your brother?

901
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 5: And he said, and.

902
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 8: Now yeah, and that's what he said. Now we're getting it.

903
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 8: Hey your brother yeah, yeah, yeah, you know that kind

904
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 8: of stuff. So I guess it was double double hard

905
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 8: for them. But tough.

906
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: Gary, We're going to take a break, we come back.

907
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your at advice that you give

908
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: to somebody else who's the son or daughter of somebody

909
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: very very very famous. And again, I don't think people

910
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,479
Speaker 1: realize what a big deal your dad was. My mother

911
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: told me about Martin and Lewis, and she was shocked

912
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: when they broke up. They were so hot. They were

913
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: doing so well. Uh, And the assumption was I think

914
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: that Dean was going to have a career, but that

915
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: your dad was not going to have a career. Dean,

916
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: of course had a magnificent career, as did your father.

917
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: But for two people to be that hot to break

918
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: up and continue on with very strong careers, I don't

919
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: think there have been anything like that in the history

920
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: of entertainment in this country. My guest is Gary Lewis.

921
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: The number is Triple eight nine seven one seven two

922
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: four to three, Triple eight nine seven one, s A G. E.

923
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: I am Larry Elder. We are Salem News Channel, Do

924
00:57:46,840 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: Not Leave Town, Triple Late ninet seventy one seven two

925
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: four to three, Triple eight nineteen one s A G.

926
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: I am Larry Elder, and my guest is involved in

927
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: what is called the My Generation Tour dot com involving

928
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: the Loving Spoonful Spoonful Holly's The Holly's Greatest Hits starring

929
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: Terry Sylvester and of course my guests Gary Lewis of

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00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: Gary Lewis and the Playboys. They're going to be performing

931
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: in Scottsdale, Arizona, on the ninth of January soritus, as

932
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: we mentioned on the eleventh Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada, March seventh,

933
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: East and Pennsylvania, thirteenth of March, Atlantic City, fourteenth of March, Foxwoods, Casino, Connecticut,

934
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: sixteenth of March, Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, March the twentieth.

935
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: Again he is Gary Lewis. Gary, we didn't finish your siblings,

936
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: so you said, you know, one of them mentioned, okay,

937
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: now we have to do with dad. Now you have

938
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: to do with brother Gary. What did your siblings end

939
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 1: up doing? How did they turn out?

940
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 8: Uh? Well, I'm telling you they they they also found

941
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 8: out once they moved out of the house. They also

942
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 8: found out how hard it is, uh just just to

943
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 8: do anything. They weren't rich anymore. They weren't They couldn't

944
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 8: refer to to their to our dad for anything, you know.

945
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 8: And and they're having they're still having a very tough time.

946
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 8: You know. I do what I can to help them,

947
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 8: you know, but I don't I don't know. They they

948
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 8: got to change their ways, you know. It's it's one

949
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 8: of those family things.

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: Gary. My father lived to be ninety five years old.

951
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: There was a period from the time I was fifteen

952
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: I was twenty five, we didn't speak to each other

953
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: for reasons that in retrost were kind of trivial. But

954
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: I had a tough time with my father, as did

955
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: my two brothers. But we reconciled when I was twenty

956
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: five years old. For the next thirty five years or so,

957
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: we had a wonderful, wonderful life, and my father and

958
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: I got closer and closer and closer. Was that the

959
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: evolution with that the evolution with you and your dad

960
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: got closer and closer as he got older and you

961
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: got older.

962
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 8: No farther away and more farther away as time went on. Right,

963
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 8: That's just the way it was. Whatever happened to my

964
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 8: dad to make him that way must have been a

965
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 8: horrific thing. I just I have no idea why he

966
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 8: had to be so tough, And you know he he

967
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 8: a lot of times. He was mean. And I'm not

968
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 8: trying to knock him. I'm not I'm not knocking him

969
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 8: at all. I'm just saying that, you know, our lives

970
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 8: were not glamorous. You know, we were under under his rule,

971
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 8: and that's the way it was. He was tough.

972
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: Gary, What what what do you think of your father's

973
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: body of work.

974
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 8: Oh, I love his work. I mean even when the

975
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 8: when the movies come on nowadays, I'll still watch him

976
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 8: and laugh. The humor was great. I loved his silly humor.

977
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 8: It was great.

978
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: His classic, of course, was The Nutty Professor. I thoroughly

979
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: enjoyed his work, including the movies that weren't particularly good.

980
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: I still enjoyed watching him. My mother did not. My

981
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: mother thought he was silly. My mother did not does

982
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: not like the Three Stooges. And I of course loved

983
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: the Stooges, so that was her her turament. Uh and uh,

984
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: even she enjoyed The Nutty Professor. But by and large

985
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: she thought that that Jerry Lewis's work was was silly

986
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: and didn't understand why the French revered him the way

987
01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: they do.

988
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 8: I know, I know, uh, you know, my dad got

989
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 8: that legion of honor from France and it was a

990
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 8: little it was a little red pin that he always

991
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 8: had on his lapel, you know. Uh. And he was

992
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 8: so proud of that, you know, really proud of that.

993
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 8: And then and then all the jokes came around, like, oh,

994
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 8: having trouble with your last movie, go to France. Of

995
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 8: course he did.

996
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: He did the telethons and you performed at one of them,

997
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: didn't you.

998
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 8: Oh many of them? Yeah, yeah, like twenty of them.

999
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: He must have raised a couple of billion dollars over

1000
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: the years.

1001
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 8: Yeah he did, he did. I think it was sixty

1002
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 8: billion total, you know, but I don't know what happened.

1003
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 8: Nobody could find a cure.

1004
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: Well, Gary, we had and he we have literally sixty

1005
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: seconds left. Give us. Give us your what kind of

1006
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: advice you would give to a son or daughter of

1007
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: a massive celebrity.

1008
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 8: Oh boy, that's rough. If you want to do something

1009
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 8: outside of the celebrity of your parents and you really

1010
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 8: feel strong in it, stay in it, stay in it

1011
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 8: and work hard at it. That's what I did, and

1012
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 8: it worked, you know, and uh so, so that's all

1013
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 8: I can That's all I can say. If you know,

1014
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 8: don't let anybody talk you out of what you think

1015
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 8: you really want to do.

1016
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: Well, Gary, thank you so much for taking the time.

1017
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: It's called the My Generation Tour dot com. Gary Lewis,

1018
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: Gary Lewis of the Playboy, Gary, thank you so much, appreciate.

1019
01:03:43,640 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 11: It, Thank you, Thank you, God bless Triple.

1020
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: Eate ninet seven one seven two four three Triple eight

1021
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: ninety seven one sage.

1022
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 4: I M.

1023
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: Larry Elder. We are Salem News Channel. We're in the

1024
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: last few days of the final week of twenty twenty one,

1025
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: so please let me take a moment to thank you

1026
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: for generous gifts from you and our other listeners who

1027
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: donated to our Angel Tree Christmas campaign this year. Men

1028
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: and women just like you donated enough to all of

1029
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: our Salem Radio Network hosts to bless over sixteen thousand

1030
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: boys in girls on Christmas who have a mom or

1031
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: dad in prison. But remember, the work of Prison Fellowship

1032
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: goes on all year round, helping children to prisoners through

1033
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Speaker 1: their Angel Tree Camp program, their Angel Tree Sports clinics,

1034
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,600
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1035
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1036
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1037
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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: Tree Christmas campaign was special because we all have a

1040
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: heart for helping children with moms or dads in prison.

1041
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: So I say thank you from the bottom of my

1042
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: heart for helping show the love of Christ through your

1043
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: generous gifts to our friends at Prison Fellowship by going

1044
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: to my website Larryelder dot com and clicking on the

1045
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: angel Tree banner at the very top. Again, you can

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01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: also score a year in TAFF deduction if your online

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01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: donation is made before midnight on December thirty first, Larryelder

1048
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Speaker 1: dot com click on the Angel Tree banner. We've been

1049
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: talking about the fraud, the growing fraud, not just in Minnesota,

1050
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: but also in California, in Illinois, New York City. We're

1051
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: going to continue that, but first I want to talk

1052
01:05:52,760 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: a little bit about anti Semitism. And it's a phenomenon

1053
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: that you would have thought after October seven would have subsided.

1054
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: It has not. In fact, you're finding people on the left,

1055
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: including Jewish organizations, accusing Israel of engaging in genocide or

1056
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: ethnic cleansing for defending itself after the attacks by Hermas

1057
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: on October seven, twenty twenty three, there's a piece called

1058
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: being pro Israel in the most anti Semitic country, and

1059
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: it's written by a twenty one year old Irishman who's

1060
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: not Jewish, and he writes quote, as a twenty one

1061
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: year old Irishman, I've been filled with shame at the

1062
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: approach my nation is taken towards Israel in the aftermath

1063
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: of the sadistic and barbaric attacks and kidnapping of October seven.

1064
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: These are just excerpts. I may be unusual, he writes

1065
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: for an irishman. Before October seventh, I had visited Israel,

1066
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: had Jewish friends, and I followed events in Israel. As

1067
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: a child, I was obsessed with twentieth century military history,

1068
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: and my father told me about Israel's nineteen sixty seven

1069
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: and nineteen seventy three wars and how my great grandfather

1070
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: fought in the region for the British Army during World

1071
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: War One. My father also had a Jewish friend, which

1072
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: made us very different. Many people in Ireland have never

1073
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: met a Jewish person due to their tiny population. He

1074
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: talked about where he lived and how he traveled, and

1075
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: the Jewish people he'd met. In March twenty twenty five,

1076
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: he writes, I established a branch of the Students Supporting

1077
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: Israel on my university campus. In the weeks after that,

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01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: I was removed from my role as chairman of the

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01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: Debate Society. My relation my relationship with the Debate Society

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: ended and I could not go on campus due to

1081
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: death threats Ireland. He writes, it's fueled with anti Semitic

1082
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: and anti Zionist content, especially across academia. Ireland's universities, cultural institutions,

1083
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: and much of its public discourse have normalized hostility toward

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01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: Israel to such an extent that openly anti Semitic views

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Speaker 1: now pass as respectable opinion. The academic framing of Israel

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Speaker 1: has been as follows. Students are taught to view the

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Speaker 1: Jewish state exclusively through a colonial lens that erases Jewish history,

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Speaker 1: its long connection to the land, to the Middle East

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Speaker 1: historical complexity, and the long Palestinian record of rejected peace offers.

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Speaker 1: This is not analysis, this is dogma. It is reinforced

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Speaker 1: by the way Irish educational materials and campus culture handle

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Speaker 1: Jewish history. Schoolbooks introduced Outwitch as a prisoner's war camp,

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Speaker 1: describe Jesus as having been born in Palestine. Judaism is

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Speaker 1: framed as inherently violent, while Christianity and Islam aim for

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Speaker 1: peace and justice. Historical Israel is omitted entirely, as if

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Speaker 1: Jews appeared in the modern era without any historical connection

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Speaker 1: to their land. On campuses. Conduct that was once considered

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Speaker 1: unthinkable is treated as normal. Student encampments glorify Hamas. Academic

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Speaker 1: staff frequently reinforced the problem by platforming individuals use Holocaust inversion,

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Speaker 1: who repeat accusations against Israel without scrutiny, who affirm the

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Speaker 1: International Court of Justices genocide claim against Israel, who refuse

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Speaker 1: to acknowledge Hamas's atrocities. When a major investigation exposed mass

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Speaker 1: sexual violence of October the seventh, Irish academics who before

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Speaker 1: that champion women's rights simply ignored it. That's what Bill Marr,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the other day was talking about people

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Speaker 1: that are pro Hamas, pro Palestinian, while women are treated

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Speaker 1: like second class citizens. All of a sudden, nobody cares

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01:10:52,920 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 1: about that anymore. This guy continues not want to confront

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Speaker 1: its anti Semitism. It supports a Palestinian state. Irish leaders

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Speaker 1: use the word genocide casually, words like ethnic cleansing casually.

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Speaker 1: This is a full scale movement against Jews and against Israel.

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Speaker 1: He writes more on this, including the organization that was

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Speaker 1: founded by Steven Spielberg after Schindler's List and how they've

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Speaker 1: been supporting anti Israel groups triple eight nine seven one

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Speaker 1: s A G E. Don't you know the Geese.

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Speaker 8: Everything?

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Speaker 1: Tripleate nine seven one s A G E Triple eight

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Speaker 1: nine seven one seven two fourty three Larry Elders sale

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Speaker 1: Uth channel back to the massive fraud taking place not

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Speaker 1: just in Minnesota but around our country in just a

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Speaker 1: few minutes. But first, after the movie Schindler's List, Steven

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Speaker 1: Spielberg found it something called the Righteous Person's Foundation with

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars. Spielberg said he couldn't accept any

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Speaker 1: money for Shindleer's List because it would be blood money.

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Speaker 1: They need to put the money back into the Jewish community,

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Speaker 1: so he founded the Righteous Person's Foundation. The mission was

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Speaker 1: to quote, recover and make accessible Jewish story from the past,

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Speaker 1: and to help build a contemporary Jewish community dedicated on meaning,

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Speaker 1: joy and responsibility to help repair our world. End of quote. However,

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Speaker 1: in recent years it funded groups that are hostile to Israel.

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Speaker 1: One group is called t apositrhy r Uah. It's a

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Speaker 1: rabbinical human rights organization that has opposed Israel's war against

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Speaker 1: a mast organized street blockades and protests on the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration to pressure in Israel to end its continued support

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Speaker 1: for what it calls Israel's quote policy of starvation. The

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Speaker 1: group's chief executive claims that Israel's targeted attack on Hesbelah

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Speaker 1: with the Pagers was a war crime and has accused

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Speaker 1: Israel of ethnic cleansing in Gaza. That group operations have

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Speaker 1: received six hundred and fifty thousand dollars from Spielberg's foundation,

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Speaker 1: on which, by the way, he still sits as board

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Speaker 1: of directors. It also gave one point two million to

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Speaker 1: a group called Ben the Art, a progressive quote Jewish

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Speaker 1: resistance organization that has blamed America for quote support and

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Speaker 1: continued violence in Gaza close quote. It also endorsed Zoran

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Speaker 1: mam Dami, who has refused to recognize Israel's right to

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Speaker 1: exist as a Jewish state, and who of course supports

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Speaker 1: boycott Avest sanction, which even Chuck Schumer called anti semitic.

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Speaker 1: Another Jewish anti Jewish group opposed to the International Holocaust

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Speaker 1: remembers Alliance's definition of anti Semitism is called Jews for

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Speaker 1: Justice nine hundred thousand dollars from Spilberg's foundation. It offers

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Speaker 1: a guide to anti Semitism, accuses Jewish leaders and institutions

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Speaker 1: that should be held accountable for their oppression of Palestinians.

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Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty, Spielberg's foundation has provided two point four

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Speaker 1: million dollars to anti Israel groups. Over the same period,

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Speaker 1: it's given only one hundred and twenty five thousand to

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Speaker 1: projects explicitly dedicated to the Holocaust. How much does Spielberg

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Speaker 1: know about this? Again, he's on the board of directors.

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Speaker 1: A Holocaust survivor wrote him a letter and complained that

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Speaker 1: Spielberg had not spoken out in support of Israel and

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Speaker 1: it's war against some moss and Spielberg gave kind of

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Speaker 1: a both sides response to it. I don't know whether

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Speaker 1: he's aware of the money that his organization had been

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Speaker 1: giving explicitly anti Israel groups, but he certainly should be

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Speaker 1: aware of the article written by front Page magazine and

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Speaker 1: by The New York Sun. Triple eight nine seven one

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Speaker 1: s A G E. I am Larry Elder. Do not

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Speaker 1: leave town, so let's get her teed up to play

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01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: lost to that Subigo Triple eight nine seven one s

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Speaker 1: A G E. Triple eight nine seven one seven two

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Speaker 1: four to three Larry Elder, Salem NewsChannel. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank Phil and Mark and JD for holding on. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk in just a few minutes. I received a request

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Speaker 1: about the little Christmas tree that I had on my

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01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: desk over here. As you can see, it's no longer here.

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Speaker 1: Someone asked where I got it and wanted to know

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Speaker 1: how she could acquire one, and I said, real simple,

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Speaker 1: just take it off somebody else's desk, which is what

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Speaker 1: I did. I'm not sure whose desk I took it from,

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Speaker 1: but I took it off somebody's desk and put it

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Speaker 1: over there, and no one came to get it, so

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Speaker 1: I got away with it, so I'm not quite I'm

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01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 1: not quite sure if that's helpful. Now. Lots of things

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01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: have happened since this story has broken about the fraud

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota, largely driven by that investigative reporter who is

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Speaker 1: doing the work that local broadcasters and investigators in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: have not been doing. His name is Nick Shirley. The

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Speaker 1: Department of Health and Human Services said it's freezing federal

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 1: child care funding for the state of Minute, citing viral

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Speaker 1: fraud allegations. The Deputy HHS Secretary announced in a post

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Speaker 1: on x Quote blatant fraud appears to be rampid in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota and across the country. We have turned off the

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Speaker 1: money spigot and are finding the fraud end of quote,

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Speaker 1: and a key Minnesota official has now responded to the

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Speaker 1: alleged Somali fraud. Minnesota Department of Children, Youth, and Family's

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Speaker 1: commissioner said, We've seen the concerns and we're taking it

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Speaker 1: seriously and we're investigating the fraud. The daycare center that

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Speaker 1: misspelled the word learning, all of a sudden, children were,

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Speaker 1: according to the New York Posts, trucked into the facility

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Speaker 1: to make it appear that the closed daycare center was

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Speaker 1: in fact operating. Maine, the state of Maine has shut

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Speaker 1: down a nonprofit with Somali ties. It's called Gateway Community Services.

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Speaker 1: It's a Portland main company run by a Somali born man,

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Speaker 1: and reportedly this company called Gateway, was paid twenty eight

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Speaker 1: point eight million between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: according to records obtained by the Bangor Daily News. A

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01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:38,600
Speaker 1: whistleblower who worked for the organization told News Nation he

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Speaker 1: could not fathom the depths of the alleged fraudy of

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Speaker 1: witnessing quote. I thought we were helping people said they

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Speaker 1: received calls complaining that gateway staff never showed up for clients.

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Speaker 1: The electronic monitoring system supposed to tracking the movements of

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Speaker 1: field staff workers depicted them traveling to places that had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with what they were supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 1: According to Epic Times, ICE is now targeting the massive

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Speaker 1: suspected fraud in Minnesota. Christi nom posted on X massive

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Speaker 1: investigation for childcare fraud and other rampant fraud and more

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Speaker 1: investigations are coming and the Small Business Administration has cut

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Speaker 1: off all Minnesota grants over the Somali fraud. I want

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Speaker 1: to go back to this local ABC Minnesota report that's

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Speaker 1: almost a year old. We played part of it, we

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Speaker 1: didn't feel the whole finished, the whole thing. Let's started

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Speaker 1: over again, Number thirteen.

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Speaker 15: I'm in our Tom Walls and state lawmakers recently pledged

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Speaker 15: to crack down on fraud and state government programs after

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Speaker 15: scandals questioned their oversights.

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Speaker 16: We got complaints about the childcare assistance program and took

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Speaker 16: a closer look at some of the daycare centers receiving

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Speaker 16: millions of your taxpayer dollars, and we found reports of violation.

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Speaker 16: State investigators called a threat to the safety of children

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Speaker 16: at centers that continued to receive those federal dollars.

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Speaker 15: Jay Cole spit months looking into these issues, and he

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Speaker 15: joins us now with what he's found in a story

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Speaker 15: You're seeing first and five.

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Speaker 1: Jay B.

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Speaker 17: Lindsay SEACAP is a thirty four million dollars state program

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Speaker 17: that receives federal funding. It benefits more than twelve thousand

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Speaker 17: low income families each month across the entire state. Learning

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Speaker 17: of growing concerns about the program from sources at the capitol,

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Speaker 17: I started looking into some of the daycares receiving the

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Speaker 17: most money. Despite many serious safety violations over multiple years,

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Speaker 17: they continue to receive funding, and now some state lawmakers

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Speaker 17: want an investigation into what they call a lack of

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Speaker 17: oversight of the SEACAP program. I started by visiting Quality

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Speaker 17: Learning Centered Daycare. So it is that FOURTEV which sits

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Speaker 17: right in the heart of downtown Minneapolis. Between twenty nineteen

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Speaker 17: and twenty twenty three, the Minnesota Department of Human Services

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Speaker 17: found ninety five violations at this location. They ranged from

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Speaker 17: failure to keep hazardous items away from children to no

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Speaker 17: records for sixteen children, which include things like immunizations, emergency contacts,

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Speaker 17: and medical needs, so state investigators place Quality Learning Center

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Speaker 17: on a conditional license in twenty twenty two. I went

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Speaker 17: to the daycare location several times and only once did

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Speaker 17: I see people there. Oh, that's your daycare, but I

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Speaker 17: did not see any children.

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Speaker 5: There are eighty kids in no no, no, no, no

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Speaker 5: after school.

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Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 17: DHS declined an interview, but in a statement acknowledge Quality

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Speaker 17: Learning Center was put on a conditional license because of

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Speaker 17: its poor safety record, but it still received nearly eight

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Speaker 17: million dollars in taxpayers money since twenty nineteen. Its conditional

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Speaker 17: status removed in twenty twenty four. I also went to

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Speaker 17: yet another facility, the Minnesota Childcare Center, in this South

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Speaker 17: Minneapolis build building.

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Speaker 1: I found it at the end of.

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Speaker 17: This small hallway with a steel door, no windows, and

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Speaker 17: no visible security cameras.

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Speaker 9: That's the sign of the place.

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Speaker 17: State records show between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 17: the daycare had thirty six violations, some of them serious.

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Speaker 17: They failed to request initial background checks on six staff

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Speaker 17: in twenty twenty three and failed to request repeat background

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Speaker 17: checks on eight staff in twenty twenty four. Ultimately the

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Speaker 17: state would accept corrective documentation on these violations.

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Speaker 4: Was a name?

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Speaker 1: Last time he had? I visited several.

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Speaker 17: Times, and each time no apparent sign of any workers,

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Speaker 17: and each time no apparent sign of any children.

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Speaker 6: Was anybody there?

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Speaker 17: Since twenty eighteen, Minnesota Childcare Center, however, received eleven and

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Speaker 17: a half million dollars in seat cap money. I asked

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Speaker 17: DHS why daycare centers could still receive millions of dollars

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Speaker 17: with questionable safety records over multiple years. In a statement,

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Speaker 17: DHS said, under state law, they can only stop payment

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Speaker 17: quote when a provider intentionally gives false information or submits

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Speaker 17: false attendance records. A provider is operating after a suspension

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Speaker 17: or revocation of its license, there's a credible allegation of fraud,

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Speaker 17: and or a provider refuses access to attendance records.

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Speaker 1: What does that say to you?

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Speaker 20: It says that the oversight is incredibly lacking.

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Speaker 17: I shared our findings with House Speaker Designate Lisa Damon.

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Speaker 20: Are we keeping kids in Minnesota safe? And what you're

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Speaker 20: showing me here brings that very much into question. You know, Jay,

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Speaker 20: you have pages here that are publicly available with repeated

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Speaker 20: failure to keep hazardous items away from children, failure to

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Speaker 20: maintain adequate staff to child ratios, background checks, failing to

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Speaker 20: keep personnel files. These are repeated violations.

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Speaker 17: As I was looking into the daycare center violations, I

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Speaker 17: also found a connection between SEACAP and the Feeding Our

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Speaker 17: Future scam, which built two hundred and fifty million dollars

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Speaker 17: from the state. In twenty twenty three, a man named

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Speaker 17: Abda Kadir Kadia was charged with stealing a million dollars

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Speaker 17: in taxpayer money in the Feeding Our Future case. He's

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Speaker 17: waiting to be sentenced after pleading guilty to wirefraud. But

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Speaker 17: we also learned Kadiah also operated into Sar childcare Center

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Speaker 17: in Minneapolis. The facility received one point eight million dollars

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Speaker 17: in taxpayer funds between twenty seventeen and twenty one, but

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Speaker 17: the license was revoked at Kadiah's daycare was shut down.

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Speaker 17: He has not been named or charged with any crimes

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Speaker 17: connected to SEACAP. However, now I've been asking for weeks

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Speaker 17: why Kadaiah's license was revoked. Late tonight, DHS sent over

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Speaker 17: this eighty six page document explaining why. Some of the

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Speaker 17: more serious reasons include violations directly related to the health

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Speaker 17: and safety of children and providing false and misleading information

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Speaker 17: to DHS. DHS also told me they have sixty two

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Speaker 17: active SEACAP investigations for family childcare and childcare centers and

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Speaker 17: as far as the two date care centers and our

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Speaker 17: sury concern. I reached out by phone to the names

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Speaker 17: and numbers listed as the licensed operators and I've not

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Speaker 17: yet heard back. So some new information that there are

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Speaker 17: now sixty two active investigations into that program.

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Speaker 16: It's some specials, it's a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is just breaking tonight. Correct.

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Speaker 17: Yes, We're gonna stay with it obviously and see what

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Speaker 17: happens next. State lawmakers have told me that they would

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Speaker 17: like this before some committees as soon as they can

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Speaker 17: get the committees together. They want to bring it to

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Speaker 17: some committees and start investigating and looking into it a little.

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Speaker 15: Bit deeper again involving our children.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and tax payer dollars, lots of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: And again Jay's been looking at this for months.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now we are told about the positive impact the Somali

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Speaker 1: community has on the economy in Minnesota. Supposedly they generate

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Speaker 1: sixty seven million dollars in state and local taxes. We're

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Speaker 1: going to explore that more deeply when we come back

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one Sage, Triple eight nine seven

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Speaker 1: one seven two four to three, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: go to the phone's Phil Mark, jd BT and Devin

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Speaker 1: all went away in Triple eight nine seventy one seven

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Speaker 1: two four to three. I am Larry Elder, Do not

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Speaker 1: leave Triple eight nine seven one seven two four to three,

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one seven two four to three,

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Speaker 1: Larry Elder's sail and News Channel. We're in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of days of the final week of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: so please let me take a moment to thank you

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Speaker 1: for generous gifts from you and our other listeners who

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Speaker 1: donate it to our Angel Tree Christmas campaign this year,

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Speaker 1: Men and women just like you donained enough to all

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Speaker 1: of our Salem Radio Network hosts to bless over sixteen

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Speaker 1: thousand boys and girls on Christmas morning, kids with a

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Speaker 1: mom or dad in prison. But remember the work of

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Speaker 1: Prison Fellowship goes on year round helping children of prisoners

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Speaker 1: through their Angel Tree Camp program, their Angel Tree Sports

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Speaker 1: helping them break the cycle of crime. If you still

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Speaker 1: The Angel Tree Christmas campaign was a special project on

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Speaker 1: helping children with moms or dads in prison. So thank

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Speaker 1: you for helping show the love of Christ through your

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Speaker 1: generous gifts to our friends at Prison Fellowship. By going

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Speaker 1: to my website Larryelder dot com and clicking on that

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Speaker 1: Angel Tree banner at the very top, again, you can

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Speaker 1: score a year in tax deduction if your online donation

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Speaker 1: is made before midnight December thirty first Larryelder dot com

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Speaker 1: Angel Tree banner at the very top. Before I go

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Speaker 1: to the phone, just want to address this business about

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Speaker 1: how much the one hundred and seven thousand estimated Somali

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Speaker 1: individuals contribute to the Minnesota economy. Supposedly they pay sixty

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars in state in local tax. Let's assume

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Speaker 1: that that's accurate. That comes out to under one thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars per Somali Let's ignore the frog numbers. Let's just

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Speaker 1: talk about the money that they take, presumably legally. Fifty

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Speaker 1: two percent of children and Somali immigrant homes in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: live in poverty, making them eligible for all sorts of

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Speaker 1: poverty programs. The rest of the state eight percent. Five

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Speaker 1: percent of Minnesota Natives have no high school diploma, five

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Speaker 1: percent working age Somalis thirty nine percent have no high

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Speaker 1: school diploma. Over half of those who've lived in the

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Speaker 1: country more than ten years. I repeat, over half of

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Speaker 1: those who've lived in America more than ten years cannot

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Speaker 1: speak English very well. Fifty four percent of Somali headed

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Speaker 1: households receive food stamps. Seventy three percent have at least

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Speaker 1: one member on Medicaid, versus seven percent for natives in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Nearly every Somali household with children eighty nine percent receives

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Speaker 1: some form of welfare. Devin is in Orlando. Let me

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Speaker 1: go to somebody talking about the topic. Sorry, Devin, just

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Speaker 1: stick around. Phil is in Philly. Philly, you're on the

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Speaker 1: Larryota Show.

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Speaker 19: Hey, Larry, I just had a comment about the Supreme

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Speaker 19: Court six y s three ruling to keep Chicago people safe.

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Speaker 19: When President Trump want to put the National Guard in there.

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Speaker 19: My suggestion is that it's only symbolic that the Supreme

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Speaker 19: Court has to be near the other two branch to government.

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Speaker 19: But that building they're in has been built in nineteen

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Speaker 19: thirty five and I'm sure needs updating. President Trump is

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Speaker 19: responsible for the updating and maintenance of federal billains. So

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Speaker 19: what I'm say saying is, while he gets in there

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Speaker 19: and does the safety inspections and refurbishes the building, let

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Speaker 19: them meet in a federal building in Chicago. And meanwhile,

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01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,759
Speaker 19: while they're there, maybe he can have some town halls

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Speaker 19: and tell these widows and fatherless children how they're so

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01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 19: much smarter than the man who wants to keep their

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Speaker 19: daddies alive and safe.

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Speaker 1: Well, Phil, I just find it's stunning that the governor

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Speaker 1: of Illinois and the mayor of Chicago are resisting the

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Speaker 1: deployment of the National Guard after seeing what's happened in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: in places like New Orleans where their immediate impact was

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Speaker 1: a steep decline in carjackings and in homicide. Appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: JD is in Texas City. JD, You're on the Larry

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Speaker 1: Old Show. Thank you so much. For calling.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Larry, I'm just calling because first that young man

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Speaker 3: Nick Shirley much prayers for him because he'll probably be

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Speaker 3: in a little bit of danger. And what about the

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Speaker 3: people that are doing all this all like holan Omar

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Speaker 3: who they say she married her brother that's fraught on

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Speaker 3: the on the application. How come she's still in office?

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Speaker 3: And how come is there able to be a recall

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Speaker 3: done like that was done in California for Governor Waltz.

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Speaker 3: And also would the Republicans take advantage and start teaming

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Speaker 3: up and being tougher on things like this, because right

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Speaker 3: now everything's been handed to them on a civil platter,

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Speaker 3: but they're so dang on quiet. It's just ridiculous, you know.

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Speaker 3: And when they had to shut.

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Speaker 21: Down, I thought that was great because that way they

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Speaker 21: would have given a chance for everybody who's on welfare

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Speaker 21: or whatever to reapply, and those who are dead and

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Speaker 21: all that are on welfare they can't apply. That'll we

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Speaker 21: need some of that stuff out and get some things going.

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Speaker 1: Just thought i'd get your absolutely you said a lot

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Speaker 1: of things. By the way, they're going door to door

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota. My understanding is to find out whether or

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Speaker 1: not people who are getting benefits, are entitled to those benefits.

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Speaker 1: As far as recalling the governor of Minnesota, only a

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Speaker 1: hand full of states have recall ability. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: Minnesota does. I will check into it about elan Omar

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Speaker 1: allegedly marrying her brother, even Donald Trump recently suggested that

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Speaker 1: she did so. I'm hoping that some sort of investigation

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Speaker 1: which will result in the possible revocation of her immigration status.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there is an investigation. All they

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Speaker 1: know is that at one time it was just something

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Speaker 1: that was whispered on social media, but recently, a few

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Speaker 1: days ago, Donald Trump even mentioned it. This is Representative

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Speaker 1: Tom Emmer of Minnesota. Number sixteen.

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Speaker 10: Young journalist Nick Shirley goes out there and finds more

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Speaker 10: evidence of fraud in one day than Tim Walls and

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Speaker 10: our Attorney General Keith Ellison have found in seven years.

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Speaker 5: Why did he find.

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Speaker 10: It because he looked for it, Molly, while Tim Walls

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Speaker 10: and Keith Ellison have been looking the other way. Billions

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Speaker 10: of dollars have been stolen from Minnesota taxpayers. You've got

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Speaker 10: the childcare centers.

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Speaker 5: They showed you.

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Speaker 10: There's eighty autism centers that are under investigation. There was

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Speaker 10: a housing stabilization program that was created in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 10: They estimated it was going to run about two million

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Speaker 10: dollars a year.

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Speaker 5: Molly.

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Speaker 10: They shut it down in October because of it was

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Speaker 10: rife with fraud and they'd already sucked out over one

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Speaker 10: hundred and sixty million dollars. The US Attorney's Office here

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Speaker 10: in Minnesota estimates this fraud could actually reach nine billion

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Speaker 10: dollars before the investigation is all over.

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Speaker 1: BT is in Portman, Oregon. BT you're in the Larry

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Speaker 1: O the show. Thank you for calling.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Larry, you know, as a fellow free marketer and everything.

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Speaker 4: You know, I wonder what your opinion is on something following.

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Speaker 4: You know, this exposes the Democrats who have been bragging

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Speaker 4: for decades that they're protecting us from the private sector

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Speaker 4: with all kinds of regulations, and here they're having these

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Speaker 4: these private these uh preschool and probably even a private school,

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Speaker 4: and with you know, it's like there's no regulation.

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Speaker 1: It's just absolutely I don't know if you heard my

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Speaker 1: opening monologue when I started the show, this shows you

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Speaker 1: government should be out of the business of welfare, out

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Speaker 1: of the business of of of government provided charity and

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Speaker 1: have individuals do it. If we donate money, we follow

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Speaker 1: it up to make sure the money is not misspent,

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Speaker 1: to make sure that it's being used for the purpose intended.

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Speaker 1: When somebody else's money on somebody else, you have this

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Speaker 1: kind of waste, fraud, and abuse. I'm Larry Elder. Triple

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one seven two four to three triple

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one s A g E. I am

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Speaker 1: Larry Elder. And it's not just Minnesota. About four hundred

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Speaker 1: government employees are being investigated by the state of Illinois

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Speaker 1: for allegedly improperly taking federal pandemic relief money meant to

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Speaker 1: keep small businesses afloat. More than two hundred people have

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Speaker 1: lost their job. They're voluntarily resigned, but some of them

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01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: have been referred for criminal prosecution for fraudulently obtaining taxpayer

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Speaker 1: funded forgivable business loans. According to the Illinois Office of

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Speaker 1: the Executive Inspector General report. This paycheck protection program was

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Speaker 1: created during the president's first term under the Cares Act,

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01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: administered by the Small Business Association to support small businesses

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01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 1: negatively affected by the pandemic. They did it fast, without

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Speaker 1: the normal guard rails. An SBA inspector General report a

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Speaker 1: few years ago estimated that as much as sixty four

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Speaker 1: billion dollars in these loans nationwide may have been improperly paid.

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Speaker 1: There's an article in a publication called Unreported Truth. A

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01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,839
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, received an email with a subject line

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Speaker 1: healthcare and the one thousand fewed me in the two thousand,

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Speaker 1: one hundred dollars taxi ride email began, I have a

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01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: friend who drives a taxi in New York estimated that

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Speaker 1: eighty percent of the cab fares are paid for by Medicaid.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday he made a round tripper to Boston, where a

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Speaker 1: child had a two hour appointment at Boston Shriner's Hospital.

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Speaker 1: The fare each way, too combined two thousand, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixteen dollars and seventy four cents. This is not

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Speaker 1: a direct pay bill to Medicaid. Hospital pay from a

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Speaker 1: fund that they have for such needs. Attached an email

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Speaker 1: of the fare. Unusual name appeared to be a child

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Speaker 1: from a refugee family. What exactly is this hospital doing

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Speaker 1: in a different state providing a cab fare all the

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Speaker 1: way to and from? How much is this costing? In

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, New York had about eighteen million people

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Speaker 1: and spent ten billion dollars on medicaid. Today, the state

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01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 1: has twenty million people and spend one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: billion dollars on Medicaid. Even with inflation adjustments, New York

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Speaker 1: is spending about four times as much per person as

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Speaker 1: it was back in nineteen eighty eight. What is going on?

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Speaker 1: Phil is a Saint Louis Phil. You're on the LARRYO

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Speaker 1: to show thank you for calling.

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Speaker 22: Yes, Larry, I want to start at stage number five,

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Speaker 22: the extracation have said individuals, and then back to four

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Speaker 22: the prosecution of the individuals that are responsible for the

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Speaker 22: fraud of the government of the United States of America.

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Speaker 22: And then stage number three, MM, all right, let's get

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Speaker 22: back to one. Do believe?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 22: Stage number two outrage, and then stage number three is

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Speaker 22: justice will follow those that should be accounted for, whether

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Speaker 22: it be before the land and the laws of the

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Speaker 22: United States of America or and I will be quiet

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Speaker 22: and let you expound upon that.

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Speaker 1: Will feel there are lots of things that are going on.

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Speaker 1: Whether or not all these people will be held to

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01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: account highly unlikely, Whether or not the programs that are

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01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 1: producing this waste, fraud and abuse get shut down. Some

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01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: probably will, but most probably will not, depending upon the state.

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Speaker 1: The Department of Homeland Security, for example, announced a new

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01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: rule that clarifies when illegal aliens may be ineligible for

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Speaker 1: asylum because they pose a danger to the security of

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Speaker 1: the country. So they're changing the hearings. Trump is closing

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Speaker 1: what he called a huge loophole in legal immigration. Rather

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Speaker 1: than have those who are applying for asylum all get

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Speaker 1: a hearing, some of them would would not get hearings

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Speaker 1: and sent to a third world country where they could

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01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 1: pursue relief and have no connection even they have no

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Speaker 1: connection to that country. The idea that everybody gets a

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Speaker 1: hearing is something that Trump feels is a huge loophole

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Speaker 1: in our asylum process. More on this we come back

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Speaker 1: on Larry Elder Triple eight nine seven one seven two

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Speaker 1: four three, Triple eight nine seventy one s A. G. E.

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Speaker 1: Larry Elder, Salem NewsChannel. Devon is in Orlando. Devon, you're

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Speaker 1: on the Lariolder Show. Thank you so much for calling.

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Speaker 23: It's good to be with you, Larry. Let's not forget

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01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,600
Speaker 23: about safty Aborols of Georgia getting those billions. Let's not

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01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 23: forget about California's waist suspending. Hey, I just want to say, let's.

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Speaker 21: Get out of NATO.

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Speaker 23: Let the European Union go to war in Russia. We

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Speaker 23: don't need to be in that mess. Let's put NATO

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Speaker 23: and tell us with Israel because it's a proxy army

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Speaker 23: of the United States military and we all know that.

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Speaker 23: So let Russia defend his backyard and let European Union

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Speaker 23: straight Russia and all that. They can't do that in

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Speaker 23: the Russia and Russa will defeat them. Great nations. And

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Speaker 23: let's just defend the Jews state of Israel because there

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01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 23: is a proply are of the United States military and

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Speaker 23: we just need to go along. And American people just

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01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 23: need to understand that America's message with everybody's backyard. We're

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Speaker 23: everywhere in the world. But it's good for me, but

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Speaker 23: not for me. But let Russia defend itself. Let Russia

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Speaker 23: descend the mother in land of Russia. It's a great nation,

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Speaker 23: including a good guy. He's not our enemy, he's not

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Speaker 23: an evil man. The people of Russian love him. The

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Speaker 23: European Union is losing its mind. The people are losing

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Speaker 23: their mind because of their government. And we just need

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Speaker 23: to get it straight before we really get in the

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Speaker 23: World War three over some bull.

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Speaker 1: Well, Devin, you know that we're not spending any more money.

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Speaker 1: Trump has now gotten the Europeans to pony up the

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Speaker 1: expense for defending Ukraine. So we're not on the hook

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Speaker 1: for anything now.

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Speaker 23: I can and I can reletally understand that, Larry. But

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Speaker 23: at the end of the day, those second door channels,

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Speaker 23: we don't know what's going going on. You know, we're

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Speaker 23: still in NATO. We're still following money to them to

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Speaker 23: to to to prop up there their forces and everything

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01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 23: like that. There's still back the CIA is still out

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Speaker 23: there doing what they do.

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Speaker 21: And they got a lot of money, Larry.

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Speaker 1: So come on now, listen, there's a there's a there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to what you say that's valid. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe that we ought to be in NATO anymore. The

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Speaker 1: whole point behind NATO was to make sure the Europeans

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Speaker 1: were defended against the Soviet Union. The civil Union doesn't

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Speaker 1: exist anymore, uh, And I think United Nations is a

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Speaker 1: big waste of time and money.

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Speaker 23: Yes, sir, and I believe that too. Let's get the

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Speaker 23: United Nations out. Let's get the United Nations out. Of America.

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01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 23: Let's get America out of the United Nations. Let the

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Speaker 23: world defend yourself. Let Russia's defenders backyard, bring the troops

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Speaker 23: home from abroad. We don't need to be everywhere.

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Speaker 3: That's our rome.

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Speaker 23: Feil expansion, the military. Look at the liberal ideologies is

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Speaker 23: crippling our way of life in America. We need to

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Speaker 23: get back on track. We need to defend the land

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Speaker 23: that we we have America, and not be all over

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Speaker 23: the world.

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Speaker 3: That's our royal.

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Speaker 23: Sale and the Greek fale because of the the methods

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Speaker 23: of liberal ideology and everything else. We really need to

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Speaker 23: look at what history would because Gavin said he wants

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Speaker 23: to bring back the Roman government and the Greek democracy,

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Speaker 23: and both of those failed because of liberal demonic we

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Speaker 23: can ideology, and we really need to straighten ourselves out.

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Speaker 1: Well, Devin, thank you very much for the call. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it with much to what she said that that's valid.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Scott is in Santa Anna Scotch and the Larry Old Show.

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Speaker 24: Hey Larry, how are you.

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01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing well, sir.

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Speaker 24: I'm sorry that you're not our governor. But anyways, I

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Speaker 24: did want to point out that Omar Omar is why

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Speaker 24: isn't she investigating her own district. She's the representative of

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Speaker 24: that district and she's in the uh fox in the henhouse.

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Speaker 1: It seems like, well, I know you, I know that.

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Speaker 1: You know the answer to that. She'd gotten a campaign

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Speaker 1: contributions from these people that are involved. They've got pictures

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Speaker 1: of her with some of the people that are involved

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Speaker 1: with the fraud smiling. So I'm not saying she's taken money.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying she's done anything illegally, but she certainly

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Speaker 1: has no interest in investigating these people. In fact, she

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Speaker 1: played the race card and suggested that the reason that

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Speaker 1: they're under scrutiny is because of their religion and because

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Speaker 1: of their race. So don't expect her to step up

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Speaker 1: and do anything. Appreciate the call. Mark is in woolnd

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Speaker 1: Hills Mark and Larry Oda Show.

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Speaker 25: Semper File. Larry, I just want to say that in

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Speaker 25: twenty fifteen, candidate Trump came here to LA and he

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Speaker 25: spoke on the uss IOWA and I had a chance

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01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 25: to talk to with him afterwards as part of a

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01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 25: vessance group and discussed the need for biometric featured national

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01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 25: ID cards like Israel and India have and we need

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01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 25: to embed in them everify, which could also serve as

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01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:04,719
Speaker 25: proof for voting rights. Unfortunately, are well meaning America first

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01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 25: president has once again been surrounded by the worst of rhinos,

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01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 25: like Senator Thune, who is really just the mouthpiece for

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01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:17,520
Speaker 25: the oligarchs and fights Trump via you know, passive aggressive techniques,

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01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 25: but larry the nation. The National Chamber of Commerce does

1653
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 25: not want employer employers forced to use e verify because

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01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 25: they don't want unions. They only want compliant, low cost

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01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 25: labor where taxpayers fund the healthcare and other service mark.

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Speaker 23: Isn't Trump we need it?

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Speaker 1: Isn't Trump in favor of e verify. I heard him

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Speaker 1: say it in favor of it.

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Speaker 25: Uh, have not seen it pushed. And that's the problem.

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Speaker 25: He's surrounded by the sick offense that that that you know,

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Speaker 25: that do the bidding of the oligarch.

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Speaker 1: Well, fair enough, it hasn't been pushed, but he certainly

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Speaker 1: has said over and over again he's in favor of

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Speaker 1: e verify. Speaking of Trump, here's what he said about

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Speaker 1: his talk. He's meeting with Zelensky. Number three.

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Speaker 26: We spoke to all of those great leaders. They're all

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Speaker 26: great leaders, and we had a great talk with them

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Speaker 26: after we were completed. We thought it was appropriate to

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Speaker 26: speak with them, and our meeting was excellent. We covered

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Speaker 26: somebody would say ninety five percent. I don't know what percent,

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01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 26: but we have made a lot of progress on ending

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Speaker 26: that war, which is really the certainly the most deadly

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Speaker 26: war since World War Two, probably the biggest war since

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Speaker 26: World War Two.

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Speaker 1: Zelenski does not believe that Putin wants peace, even though

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Speaker 1: Trump says he believes Putin wants peace. Number fifteen.

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Speaker 10: Is there any indication that you see that Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 10: wants peace by what he's doing or saying.

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Speaker 27: Me not be honest, And I don't see it, because,

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Speaker 27: first of all, I don't hear it publicly.

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Speaker 13: His messages they go.

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Speaker 27: I mean, he doesn't speak about peace. Now he doesn't speak.

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Speaker 27: He says that he can go further. It's not the

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Speaker 27: signals of peace.

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Speaker 1: Zelenski also says that Ukraine is winning. Number eight. President

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Speaker 1: rob and Steve Wikoff is on voy sometimes say Ukraine

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Speaker 1: is losing the war, and then sometimes they say Ukraine

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Speaker 1: can't win. You don't agree with.

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Speaker 27: That, Yes, I can explain. It's understandable that when Russia

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Speaker 27: is occupying about three thousand kilometers.

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Speaker 6: Per year these last two years.

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Speaker 27: It's understandable that it looks that we are not winning,

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Speaker 27: but it's not real fact. Because the fact the price

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Speaker 27: of these three thousand kilometers he.

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Speaker 1: Talked about the Russian lives lost. Candles were on Bondai Beach,

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Speaker 1: by families, by children, by people of faith to celebrate

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Speaker 1: the Festival of Light, a festival from Bible times, one

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Speaker 1: that Jesus himself celebrated. But instead of light, there was darkness, violence, fear, hatred,

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Speaker 1: showing itself at a time meant for prayer and rejoicing.

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Speaker 1: Times like this remind us that even with a ceasefire

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Speaker 1: in Israel, Jewish people are being targeted simply because of

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Speaker 1: their faith, and times like this reminds us why the

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Speaker 1: International Fellowship of Christians and Jews exists to stand in

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Speaker 1: the gap, providing safety and security to God's people. The

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Speaker 1: Fellowship brings Christians and Jews to be a light to

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Speaker 1: suffering Jews in Israel, the former Soviet Union, or wherever

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Speaker 1: the needs are greatest. Today, Jewish people around the world

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Speaker 1: face these threats and are so grateful for their Christian

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Speaker 1: friends who stand with them. To find out how you

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Speaker 1: can take part in this holy work. Visit URGENTIFCJ dot org,

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Speaker 1: urgentif SCS dot org. That's one word URGENTIFCJ dot org.

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Speaker 1: Triple late nine seven one seven two three triple NINETEENTN

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Speaker 1: one s A g E. Larry Elders Salem News Channel.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and four year old World War two veteran

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Speaker 1: Army staff sergeant survived the Battle of the Bulge, performed

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Speaker 1: on saxophone the national anthem at a game between the

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Speaker 1: New York Islanders and the New York Rangers. His name

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Speaker 1: is Dominic Critelli, number five.

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Speaker 12: And here to perform our national lanthan please welcome. One

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Speaker 12: hundred and four year old the World War Two Army

1721
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 12: veteran staff sergeant Dominic Curtelly.

1722
01:50:34,800 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 6: Why then.

1723
01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:30,919
Speaker 2: LA became.

1724
01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: What kind of stuff?

1725
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 3: Mamboo?

1726
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 1: The mike has been drop all across America. That's enough.

1727
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:36,759
Speaker 8: Put down the mic, though, Larry Elder show.

1728
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:51,520
Speaker 12: Ladies and Gentlemen status sergeant dominated.

1729
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 1: Brittillingh