1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Jillian Michaels Finnis Icon joined us later in the show 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: to unpack Maha. What is it? Is it succeeding? And 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: will it be politically beneficial for Republicans at the ballot box? 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: This fall much you get to certainly as well when 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: it comes to the madness happening in leading blue cities 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: and blue states all across the country. See for instance, 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: New York City under Zormamdannie and Chicago under Brandon Johnson. 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: It's fice to say things are not going well. But 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: from now we begin with this. One of the most 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: anticipated cases of the current screen Court term has come out. 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: It has been decided. I'll be honest. They called me 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: a little off guard. To be clear, you never know 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: when the justices are going to release an opinion. It 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: is here, there, and everywhere going to be a guessing game. 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: But the popular speculation was that the Supreme Court would 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: wait until after the State of the Union Dress this 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: coming Tuesday to release its tariff opinions. Fice to say 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: that prediction did not true, because earlier on Friday, Supreme 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Corps released its opinion in Learning Resources Incorporated versus Trump, 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: commonly known as the tariff case. So just review here. 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: The relevant legal question is essentially as follows Donald Trump's 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: so called reciprocal tariffs, which are of these country specific 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: tariffs that he first unveiled at so called Liberation Day 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: in the White House Rose Garden last April. And he 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: has been following up and it has been kind of 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: a will he won't see. He's been expanding, decreasing. It's 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: really all been done by Executive FIA. Congress has not 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: passed a law in this matter. And the reason that 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: it was done by Executive FIA, according to the administration, 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: is that Donald Trump invoked a Jimmy Carter era statue 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: from the late nineteen seventies known as the International Emergency 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: Economic Powers Act, or of the IEEPA for short. And specifically, 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: what this particular statute does is it allows you to 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: regulate importation when it comes to commerce. So the relevant 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: legal question, it's actually a very interesting one. The relevant 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: legal question is whether this statutory permission Congress delegate to 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: the president the ability to when there is a national emergency, 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: because it has to be an emergency, as the name 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: of the statute would imply, if there is an economic emergency, 41 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: the president has the ability to regulate the importation of goods. Okay, 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,559 Speaker 1: that's the statute. Now consider that statute along the backdrop 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: of Article one, Section eight of the Constitution itself, which 44 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: enumerates a power to Congress that says, the call of 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: the Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: and excises. The duty there would seemingly set a baseline 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: rule of giving power to Congress. The relevant question is 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: whether or not Congress delegated certain emergency powers to the 49 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: president to regulate importation in the case of an economic emergency. 50 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: Long story, short to cut to the chase. In a 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: highly fractured, highly fractured series of opinions, the opinions totaling 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: in this case one hundred and seventy pages, so a 53 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: lot of reading for those lawyers who are very quick 54 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: at reading, or some like myself who are better at skimming, 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: frankly than reading every single word one hundred and seventy 56 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: pages of split opinions. And it is a sixty three 57 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: rejection of the Trump administration's legal claims. Chief Justice John Roberts, 58 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: writing the majority opinion for the Court essentially arguing, in 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: very Article one, section eight formalist constitutional terms, that the 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: power to impose duties and terrorsts lies with the Congress period, 61 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: full stop, end of story, And he claims that there 62 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: is no precedent since this statue the IEPA was passed 63 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: in the late nineteen seventies, that there was no precedent 64 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: for unilaterally invoking the ability to invoke reciprocal bilateral tariffs 65 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: using this particular statue. The response to them, the response 66 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: to that from the dissenters, of whom there are three. 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: The three dissenters in this case are the two conservative 68 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: icons Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito, who are both known 69 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: to be generally pro presidential power, pro executive power, pro 70 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: Article two, as well as Brett Kavanaugh. Brett Kavanaugh, who 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: actually wrote the lead descent, a whopper actually of a 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: sixty plus page descent by Brett Kavanaugh, and frankly good 73 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: for him, because it's a very very compelling read, at 74 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: least in my humble opinion. The response to Brett Kavanaugh 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: essentially argues the following. He says that, one, if we're 76 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: just being good textuals here, the plain language of the 77 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: actual statue we're talking here about regulating the importation of goods, 78 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: would seem to encompass the ability to regulate how much 79 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: those goods actually cost. What Kavanaugh basically says is that 80 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: even the plaintiff's sies, those who are soon in the miministration, 81 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: they conceded at oral argument, they conceded that the president 82 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: has the ability to just shut off the complete and 83 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: total importation of all goods from let's call it communist China, 84 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: it could be actually any country. So how then, Kavanaugh speculates, 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: how then could be the case that you can unilaterally 86 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: shut off the importation of all goods, but you can't 87 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: slap like a dollar tariff. It doesn't make sense. And 88 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: I I said, it's a very actually compelling descent here 89 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: another very interesting thing as well, For what it's worth, 90 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: before it gets that this opinion was not surprising, I know, 91 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: there are a lot of folks, perhaps in the Trump 92 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: sympathetic podcast Ecosystem TV show rears with Ecosystem, who are 93 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: telling you otherwise, and they're saying that this is a 94 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: slam dunk case for the administration. That's not our style 95 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: here in the Josh Ammershew, especially in this particular area 96 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: of the law and an area that I that I know, 97 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: shall I say, I believe better than some of our 98 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: peers and colleagues, and we call it like we see it. 99 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: And what I said repeatedly over the course of this 100 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: litigation is that I actually do agree with the administration's arguments. 101 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: What I said for a long time was that if 102 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: nothing else, this present with his particular his particular his 103 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: mercantilist view of trade and international commerce, his view that 104 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: the trade deficits, that the deficit between your imports and export, 105 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: that this actually really is a really really important thing, 106 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the balance of trade, going back to the hundreds of years 107 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: of economic theory. He really believes this actually is an emergency. 108 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: So for him, subjectively, it is an emergency, and as 109 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: Brek Kavanaugh correctly says, it is concurrence. There there is 110 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: a very very long history in areas like this that 111 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: implicates foreign commerce, in particular in foreign affairs cases more generally, 112 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: I would say, where the court generally defers to the executive. 113 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: This is a very very long standing thing. Maybe less 114 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: so when it comes to domestic affairs. But as anyone 115 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: with even a rudimentary familiarity with cons social structure knows 116 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: overall the presidents his powers are generally at their apex 117 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: when he is engaging in foreign affairs and foreign conduct there. 118 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: So I would encourage you to go ahead, if you're 119 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: so inclined, if you nerd out to these things like 120 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: I did, to go ahead and read or at least 121 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: to skim some of these dueling opinions there. Generally speaking, 122 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: my rule of thumb in a close legal call like 123 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: this invoking interesting constitutional stature of questions, my general rule 124 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: of thumb is that Clarence Thomas is usually right and 125 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: same Alito is usually right. When they're on the same 126 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: side of the debate. That means that they're definitely right, 127 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: and so too they are on the same side here. 128 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: So again I think that the dissenters have the better 129 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: side of the argument. But it was a close call, 130 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: and I very much predicted this outcome. If you go 131 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: back and listen to some episodes of a show from 132 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: a few months ago, watch the old episodes, you will 133 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: see that I actually said that this argument, while I 134 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: believe correct, is likely not to get more than two 135 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: to three votes. I said Thomas Alito impossibly Kavanaugh, and unfortunately, 136 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: because I think it's a big loss administration. It's going 137 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: to be frankly a total mess and absolute mess when 138 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: it comes to the possible refund process. My god, they're 139 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: gonna have to go through this refund thing. That's a 140 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: whole new can of worms, for better or for us. 141 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: Though I was altenly proven right in my prediction. A 142 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: final quick note on this one thing that Brett Kavanaugh 143 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: also does at the end of his descent is he 144 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: says that, but the administration has a lot of fallback 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: options if they seek to still impose these tariffs. There 146 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: are a lot of other statutes that could potentially be 147 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: the statutory hook to do this. So he basically says 148 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: to the majority, you guys are causing this absolute massive 149 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: mess for what for nothing. You're literally just just going 150 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: to cause Secretary Scott Best in the Treasury and President 151 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: United States to invoke another statue such as the Trade 152 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: Act of nineteen seventy four, such as the Tariff Act 153 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: of nineteen thirty, such as the Trade Expansion Act in 154 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two, to name but a few, all of 155 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: which seem to delegate from Congress to the President some 156 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: ability to regulate tariffs. So we will see the practical 157 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: effect there, perhaps the administration will be able to avoid 158 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: the need to give out any kind of refunds if 159 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: they are simply if they're simply able to just switch 160 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: gears and flip to another statute and just invoke another statute. There, 161 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes, but for now, definitely a 162 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: huge loss to the administration. Unfortunately, more bad economic news 163 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: for the administration coming out this morning as as well. 164 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: So GDP growth in Q four Q four two twenty 165 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: five has now come in. It looks like it rose 166 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: an annualized rate of just one point four percent. This 167 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: according to data from the Trump Commerce Department under Secretary Lundnik. 168 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: This is below the Wall Street estimate that was roughly 169 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: around two point five percent. So that one point four 170 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: percent quarterly growth is significantly lower than the last quarterly 171 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: GDP growth estimate that we received, which was for roughly 172 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: three points higher on that roughly four point four percent. 173 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: So this is a substantial to climb, and unfortunately this 174 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: does create some real economic headwinds and and some real 175 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: messaging problems of nothing else for the administration. Donald Trump 176 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: was on the campaign trail in Georgia last night touting 177 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: the economy touting affordability, cost of living, all of these, 178 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: all of these things here, But unfortunately this data is 179 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: definitely going to be something of a thumb. In his son, 180 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: my basic advice to the administration is as false, you 181 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: absolutely can. Perhaps you should, you actually likely should seek 182 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: to reinvoke these tariffs under some sort of other statutory authority. 183 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: After all, most of these importers have already paid these 184 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: various duties. And if you can get around this extraordinarily convoluted, 185 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: complicated refund process by another means there, then you probably 186 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: should go ahead and do that. Could you would set 187 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: some sort of sunset day, some sort of expiration to 188 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: time out the tariffs, something like that, But you probably 189 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: should do that as opposed to trying to go through 190 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: whatever the heck this refun process possibly could look like. 191 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: I mean, and frankly, I don't even know what that 192 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: could look like. I mean, think about all the fact 193 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: that it was passed on to consumers. I mean, what 194 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 1: an absolute mess. As again, in Brett Kavanon, one of 195 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: his finer descents on the Supreme Court, says quite compellingly 196 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: in his opinion, the other thing, though, in this probably 197 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: is the more important takeaway is at this point the administration. 198 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: While they absolutely can, indeed, I say they should focus 199 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: on trying to reimpose the tariffs under different statutory authority, 200 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: they should also focus on some other economic things. Earlier 201 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: this week, we had Eric Erickson, the radio host on 202 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: the show, talking about how there might not be another 203 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: reconciliation bill. We had the same conversation actually with Rachel 204 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: Bouvard earlier this week as well, well, why not there 205 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: should be another reconciliation bill in Congress? Why is Trump 206 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: not calling up John fun the same majority leader, and say, 207 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: get another reconciliation bill, Get me an economic legislative vehicle 208 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: where I can bypass a Schumer filibuster and get this 209 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: pass with fifty one votes, and throw in there all 210 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: sorts of direct economic relief for the working in middle class. 211 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: Tax cuts are and obvious thing that comes to mind there, 212 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: regulatory relief, some sort of health care affordability measure. A 213 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: lot to get to, but that's the proper response to this. Yes, 214 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: seek to reimpose the tariffs, and frankly, let's continue to 215 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: do better on a Supreme Court nominations. Wink wink, nudge, nudge, 216 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: But yes, also focus on what else on an economic 217 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: gen you can do to make sure the American people 218 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: understand this instation is working tirestly to support them and 219 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: their economic ambitions. Folks, stay with us through a break. 220 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with much more after this. Welcome back. So, 221 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: speaking of the economy and ways to potentially mess it up, 222 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: we're currently living through a very interesting experiment in New 223 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: York City. By interesting, I would mean utterly horrifying and dystopian. 224 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: If by some freak way of the world, I tragically 225 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: lived in the Big Apple, Thank goodness and praise me 226 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: to God. I do not live in Gotham. But for 227 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: those of us who are on the outside watching, it's 228 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: a very interesting experiment. And what would happen when a 229 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: socialist Marxist loonbag takes over the nation's most important city 230 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: and frankly, in many ways Western civilizations most important city. 231 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: So earlier this week, Zori Mamdani Communists from the City 232 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: of New York really originally from Uganda actually, but now 233 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: by way of Uganda. Resident of the City of New York, 234 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: Mam Donnie unveiling his inaugural budget for New York City 235 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven billion dollars for this city, 236 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: the City of New York, just by way of comparison, 237 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: but then perspective the entire state budget here where I 238 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: live in Florida, for the state of Florida, and not 239 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: like the city of Miami or Miami Dade County, Palm 240 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: Beach Country, like the whole state of Florida. The budget 241 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: is one hundred and seventeen billion dollars, ten billion dollars 242 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: less than moum Donnie's budget for the City of New York. 243 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: It's absolutely wild overall, it's a ten billion dollar increase 244 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: over the prior fiscal year's budget. At this point. What's 245 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: what ma'm donnie is now saying is he is threatening 246 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: to raise property taxes, not just on the wealthy very 247 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: much actually, and he admitsed this very much on middle 248 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: and working class fan as well. He's threatening to raise 249 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: proaery taxes unless unless Kathy Hope, the idiot Democrat governor 250 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: in Albany and her allies in the Democrat legislature, unless 251 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: they go ahead and raise taxes on the wealthy. You know, 252 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: as Bernie Sanders AOC and mem Donnie was sad there. 253 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: He's basically trying to hold them hostage. He's saying, you 254 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Democrats in Albany, you do our bidding, and you raise 255 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: taxes on the scary one percent whatever other or Wheellian 256 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: Marxist term they use in these days. You go ahead 257 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: and raise taxes on the quote unquote wealthy or else 258 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: or else dot dot We're going to raise property taxes 259 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: on the working middle of class. All this ostensibly, ostensibly 260 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: in the name of trying to close at least a 261 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: seven seven billion dollar projected budget shortfall. By the way, 262 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: if you have a seven billion dollar budget shortfall, but 263 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: you raised the budget ten billion dollars over last year, 264 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't really take a you know, a 265 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: Mensa level IQ or mathematics PhD to figure this one out. 266 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: You literally could just keep the budget the same as 267 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: last year, you know, f Woodsworth, Democrats in all in 268 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: the state capital not necessarily on Ma'm Donnie's side on 269 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: this one. Fascinating stuff. Go ahead and check out this 270 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: local press conference earlier this week in New York State, 271 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: the mayiam with the greatest respects. 272 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: In every campaign speech and every debate where you engaged, 273 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: we opened out ears to listen now today accept the 274 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: words echoing from us. 275 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: Now do your job, is mayor, and leave. 276 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: Our tax VISI. 277 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so, uh, you know, not exactly a ringing endorsement 278 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: from from the Democratic grassroots. Let's call it when it 279 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: comes to tu Zora Mamdani. New York City, in case 280 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: you're not aware, is already one of, if not the 281 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: most tax jurisdictions in all of the United States. New 282 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: York and California have the highest state level income taxes. 283 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: But what New York City has, that's now Los Angeles, 284 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: really any other city has, is already an outrageous and 285 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: outrageous municipal municipal individual tax on top of that. So 286 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: if you are in the top called one to five 287 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: percent in New York City and you're paying municipal, city 288 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: and federal taxes, I mean, by gosh, I mean you 289 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: are easily easily giving well over fifty percent of your 290 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: money to the government in some variety, likely actually more 291 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: than that, probably uppers of sixty to sixty maybe the 292 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: sixty five percent of your money to taxes there. And 293 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: now I'm dying threatening to raise property taxes even on 294 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: that as well. Meanwhile, a somewhat humorous and somewhat depressing 295 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: situation is happening in another, another Democrat controlled iconic blue city. 296 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: In this case is not the first city of New 297 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: York City, but it is the second city of Chicago. 298 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: So this story that is increasingly gaining traction is that 299 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. But for those of you who are 300 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: not football fans, I'm a football fan. The Chicago Bears 301 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: are the oldest NFL team still in existence in the 302 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: city in which was founded. There's technically only one team 303 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: now known as the Arizona Cardinals, who go back even further. 304 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: They start off as something different. They've moved a bunch 305 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: of times there. The Bears were the only are the 306 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: only team from the inaugural NFL season nineteen twenty that 307 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: are still in the city where they play. And apparently 308 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: it is so bad in the city of Chicago under 309 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: the socialist mayor Brandon Johnson, a mayor who frankly makes 310 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: his processor Lori Lightfoot, who herself was a socialist loombag. 311 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: Brandon Johnson makes Lightfoot Frankfee look like a moderate. And 312 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: it's so bad there under Brandon Johnson, is so bad 313 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: under JB. Pritsker, the absolutely morbidly obese governor of Illinois. 314 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: Who is just a taxi spent democrat if there ever 315 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: were one, very much in fashion there in Springfield, if 316 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: you know anything about how politics work, and the profoundly 317 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: corrupt and high spending and debt adult states of Illinois. There, 318 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: so things are so bad that Chicago Bears are apparently 319 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: on the cusp of leaving. They're on the cusp of 320 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: leaving to go to Indiana play for a very long 321 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: time in soldier Field. Soldier Field is this iconic stadium 322 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: right near downtown. I actually used to live within walking 323 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: distance of Soldier Field, like vividly remember actually living there 324 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: when I was at law school in Chicago. I had 325 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: an apartment in the South Loop. I remember that there 326 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: was actually a Taylor Swift concert at Soldier Field one night. 327 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: You could actually hear of the concert basically from my apartment. 328 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: I was actually that close to the stadium. So apparently 329 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 1: the Bears are trying to leave Soldier Field. They had 330 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: first tried to go to the suburbs, to Arlington Heights 331 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: in Illinois, which is a pretty prominent wealthy suburb north 332 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: of the city. There, they didn't get the property tax 333 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: dispensation that they were looking for, and now they're in 334 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: talks with the governor of Indiana, Mike Brown, to relocate 335 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: just over the border to Hammond, Indiana, which is just 336 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: an astonishing and astonishing rebuke of Brendon Johnson and Jimmie Pritzker. 337 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: Brendon Johnson again, this communist mariage Chicago food It's worth 338 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: was almost tearful, not necessarily apologetic, but almost tearful. At 339 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: a press conference, discussed saying how the Bears maybe all 340 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: just pick up and leave for the Hoosier State. Go 341 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: ahead and watch this. 342 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 4: It's my face straight Okay, all right, keep a straight 343 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 4: face here. The Bears belong in the city of Chicago. 344 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 4: The Chicago Bears belong in the city of Chicago, right, 345 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 4: And I've said repeatedly that the door is always open 346 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 4: for conversations, you know, and you know what, you know, 347 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: Kevin Warren did call me yesterday. We didn't get a 348 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: chance to connect, you know. And I still firmly believe 349 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 4: that their best position is in Chicago, and it's evidence. 350 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: The evidence is clearly speaking for itself. 351 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: Well, the evidence, unfortunately, sir, is that you are a 352 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: wildly engrossing and competent mayor of one of the nation's 353 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: most important cities. That is the overwhelming evidence at this point. 354 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: The evidence is in you stink You're awful again. The 355 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: Bears have been in that city for over a entry, 356 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: and the proper response is to say what can we 357 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: do to keep you here, not to say, you know, 358 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: go to hell for a threatening to pick up and 359 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: leave due to the failed to credit policies of the socialists, 360 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: both in Springfield and in Chicago itself. But zooming Yana 361 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: focusing on this broader trends here, how even Democrats in 362 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: Albany in the state capitol are pushing back on Mamdani's 363 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: outrageous budget has threatened to raise property taxes even further. 364 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: How Brennan Johnson in Chicago is now freaking out over 365 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: the fact that the city might lose their their iconic 366 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: NFL franchise to the neighboring right state of Indiana. There 367 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: there is a broader trend here, which is that quality 368 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: of life is demonstrably inferior in America in the twenty 369 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: first century in blue states. I don't necessarily wish that 370 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: would be the case. I generally want all of my 371 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 1: fell Americans to have a superior quality of life and 372 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: Let's be clear to an extent, the overall quality of 373 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: life has definitely improved in some ways over the course 374 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: of this administration. For instance, on Thursday show, we were 375 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: talking about how this country is now experiencing a historic 376 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: plunge in the homicide rate. It's the lowest homicide rate 377 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: in one hundred and twenty five years. This is the 378 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: McKinley administration. McKinley that goes for washingt d c. It 379 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: goes for Chicago, it goes for Philadelphia, a lot of 380 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: these iconic blue cities. But it's not just crime. It's 381 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: also the cost of living. It's also affordabilities. It's property taxes, 382 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: it's the cost of housing and permitting, the bureaucratic red 383 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: tape getting anything done, zoning, micromanagement and regulation there. It's 384 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: all of this. 385 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 3: It adds up. 386 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: And there's a reason, frankly, why Americans are flocking to 387 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: red states and are fleeing blue states, and is due 388 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: to the failed incompetence leadership of socialist morons like Zormamzani 389 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: and Brandon Johnson. Awful awful stuff. Well, folks say with us, 390 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: because our guests after this break knows a thing or 391 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 1: two about failed in competence when it comes to government. 392 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: That is Jillian Michaels, a lifelong Californian and fitness ic. 393 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: Folks take with this through the break. Jillian Michaels join 394 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: us on the other side. Welcome back. So if you're 395 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: a longtime listener or watcher of the show, you know 396 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: that we talk quite a bit on the show about MAHA, 397 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: the Make America Healthy Again movements. We interviewed doctor Douglas Howard, 398 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: the original formulator of Balance of Nature, on the show 399 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: earlier this weekend. There is really no one better to 400 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: bring on to discuss that and any number of other 401 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: topics than the longstanding fitness icon herself, that is Jillian Michaels. 402 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: Really not overstanding the case through I think to call 403 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: her a fitness icon. You can follow Jillian on x 404 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: at Jillian Michaels. Make sure to check out her wonderful 405 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: show where I've been a recent guest myself keeping it 406 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: real with Jillian Michaels. So, Jillian, you're a real sweetheart 407 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: and a savant when it comes to public hell, So 408 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: thank you for joining the Josh Hammer Show today. So 409 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: I want to just open by talking about MAHA kind 410 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: of hand over to you for kind of high level 411 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: assessment as to where we are. You've been ahead of 412 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: this curve for a very very long time year. How 413 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: do you assess this state of where we are from 414 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: a public helpers post if now as compared to where 415 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: we were let's call it a year and a half 416 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: ago prior to President Trump, RFK and all of that. 417 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot to unpack here. Let me just 418 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 5: start with the state. 419 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: Of the state Kennedy has done. 420 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 5: I don't want to see a significant amount of good things, 421 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: because if we've got an iceberg of stuff to deal with, 422 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 5: I'll tell you that we're moving in the right direction. 423 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: And I'll give you just a few examples. The generally 424 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 5: recognized as safe role as an FDA loophole that has 425 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 5: existed for decades now. 426 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: And it is the way in which big. 427 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 5: Food companies slide thousands of chemicals into our food without 428 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 5: proper safety testing because they literally vouch for it. You've 429 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 5: got such excessive corruption and conflict of interest in all 430 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 5: of our government health agencies with industry. So people will 431 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 5: work for Pfiser, go to the FDA, approve a drug, 432 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 5: go back and work for Pfeiser. Same thing with big food, 433 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 5: same thing with big insurance. And Kennedy has put an 434 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 5: end to that revolving door. You've got Operation Stork, where 435 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 5: they're reevaluating the things that are put in baby formula. 436 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 5: You know whether people like this or not, I personally do. 437 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: But they removed several vaccines from the CDC's mandated childhood schedule. 438 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 3: I say mandated because if it's on the schedule. 439 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 5: A lot of schools, public schools, for example, won't allow 440 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 5: your child in unless they have the vaccine. Now, this 441 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 5: is an exceptionally controversial position, but I would tell you 442 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 5: that if you want to vaccinate your child for things 443 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 5: like hepatitis B or COVID, you can. 444 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: He removed hepatitis B, COVID. 445 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 5: Influenza god one having to do with the stomach flu 446 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 5: and the reality is you can still vaccinate your kid. 447 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 5: And I would simply say with something like hepatitis BE, 448 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 5: to shine a little bit of light on this, because 449 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 5: again it's so controversial, and everybody thinks that people who 450 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 5: are skeptics about certain vaccines. 451 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: Need to appreciate how nuanced of a conversation it is. 452 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 5: So Hepatitis B, for example, is a sexually transmitted disease 453 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 5: that you can also get through intravenous drug use. Now, 454 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 5: newborns aren't going to engage in that kind of behavior. 455 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: They can get it from mom. 456 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 5: But you can test mom before giving birth, and if 457 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 5: you don't, it's literally malpractice. So the argument here is 458 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 5: why are you vaccinating children for sexually transmitted disease and 459 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 5: you can. 460 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: Test mom in the first twenty four hours of life. 461 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 5: By the way, Josh, and what I think many now 462 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 5: feel is when the vaccine company has got blanket immunity 463 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty six, the schedule. 464 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: Got very aggressive and far more robust. 465 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 5: So having that choice for parents I think is pretty important. 466 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 5: Things like MMR are still on the schedule. There's a 467 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 5: lot that he's doing. There's also a lot, if we're 468 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 5: being honest with each other, that he cannot do. You know, 469 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 5: we're seeing things like glycosate now getting blanket immunity and 470 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 5: we know it causes cancer. I would tell people two 471 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 5: things about MAHA. It's going to come down to your 472 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 5: personal agency at the end of the day. 473 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 3: And here's why RFK. 474 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 5: Himself is up against the four biggest lobbies in the world, 475 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 5: Big AC, big food, big pharma and big insurance, it 476 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 5: will be virtually impossible to turn the Titanic all the 477 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 5: way around. In fact, I'd say we get like five 478 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: percent of the way there, which is great if we're 479 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 5: not losing ground. And I'll give you an example of 480 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 5: what I mean by that in just a moment. In 481 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 5: addition to that, though or okay's not going to be 482 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 5: here forever, and you know this is not going through Congress. 483 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: So here's what I mean by that. 484 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 5: The former head of HHS, who is Xavier Bachera, under 485 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 5: the Biden administration, worked to remove age restrictions on gender 486 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 5: affirming care from minors. 487 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: Nobody knows that. Obody talks about. 488 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: That California guy from your backyard, Jillian, Josh. 489 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: There's reasons I left. 490 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: It is truly evil and diabolical if you understand if 491 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: you look at the long term data, for example, on 492 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: sexually transitioning children with off label cancer drugs. 493 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 5: Having said that, Kennedy has now put forward a law 494 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 5: that medical institutions who provide gender affirming care for children 495 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 5: under the age of eighteen will not. 496 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: Get government funds. 497 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 5: Now, when Kennedy now see that to me, when we 498 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 5: could be here all day long talking about these individual issues. 499 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 5: But when he's gone, and let's say Gavin Newsom gets 500 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 5: into the presidency, it's going to flip right back on 501 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 5: his head. 502 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And you know, you know, in the show, Jillian, 503 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: we were talking about the Supreme Court case of the tariffs, 504 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: and that's kind of like a very timely example as 505 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: to the potential a time sensitivity of putting something in 506 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: executive order and administrative feof not doing so by Congression legislation. 507 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: So certainly these are things that we will be paying 508 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: very close attention to. By by the way, the folks 509 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: that are listening couldn't see me smiling grinning ear to 510 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: ear during part of your response, Jillian, because our babies 511 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 1: now fourteen months old, I guess less a baby, more 512 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: of a toddler now, but I remember vividly when she 513 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: was born and they offer that this hepatitis B vaccine 514 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: and my wife and I looking, it's like, yeah, you're crazy, 515 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, and this is totally nuts. Frankly, So no, look, 516 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean we are not. I mean, we plan to 517 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: vascinate on a limited vaccine and delayed schedule basis. That's 518 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of the consensus sweet spot that we've arrived at there, 519 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: and certainly I'm very supportive of all of all that 520 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: RFK has done in that front. I've kind of related 521 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: follow up questions to you, Jillian there, which is I 522 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: thinking about the politics of this, especially given some of 523 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: these economic headwinds. There was a somewhat suspect GDP number 524 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: this morning. This Tariff's case very disappointing for the administration. 525 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: I think Republicans will be looking for anything to kind 526 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: of motivate voters this fall. Do you see Maha and 527 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: the public health issues as a possible galvanizing factor from 528 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: a political perspective as well, in addition to being just 529 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: substantively inherently good for the public in general. 530 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 5: Well, it certainly was obviously going into the election. Now, 531 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 5: as I mentioned, there have been some disappointments, and right 532 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 5: now the glyca state issue is absolutely making the rounds, 533 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 5: and people are absolutely right to be upset about it. 534 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 5: But I think what we need to appreciate is if 535 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 5: we get nine wins and one loss, it's still nine wins. 536 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 5: And I know this is going to come around the messaging, Josh, 537 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 5: to be honest, because we've already seen the ways in 538 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: which they have gone after RFK as though he was 539 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 5: a flat birther. I'll give you one more example. Maybe 540 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 5: you recall there's a chemical in the water called atrazine, 541 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 5: and RFK had suggested maybe this is why certain kids 542 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 5: are more gender dysphoric. Now, the reason he made that 543 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 5: suggestion is because it's quite literally causing sex changes in fraud. 544 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 5: So while it seems crazy like he's some sort of 545 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 5: a madman, people don't really understand the logicist why is 546 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 5: putting it forward. So it's really going to come across 547 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 5: with how aggressive, honestly the propaganda is coming out of 548 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 5: the left and how effective the right is at messaging 549 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 5: all these major wins like the gender of affirming care 550 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 5: conversation that we just discussed. 551 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: No, I absolutely no doubt about that. Public health I 552 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: think is on that that definitely could galvanize law of 553 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: the masses this November. We shall see about that ultimately there. 554 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: But you know, speaking of November, Jillian, and we want 555 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: to hold you over through through a quick commercial break 556 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: if you're okay with that. California, your state very much 557 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: in the news when it comes to the democratic side 558 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: of the aisle. They seem to dominate the headlines there 559 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: when it comes to Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi 560 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: resigned in Congress. There for now, just just be quick, 561 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: immediate thoughts. What the heck is in the water out 562 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: there in California? Is this state going to survive into 563 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: the next century? 564 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 5: Gosh, Josh, I don't know, There's no question, and that 565 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 5: the state has seen a precipitous decline under the governorship 566 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 5: of Gavin Newsome. And I think that his allegiances are 567 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 5: not to the state. 568 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: And one thing that I will leave you. 569 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: With right before the break on this is the World 570 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 5: Economic Forum has a young Leader's training program. Macrone has 571 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 5: come out of there, Trudeau has come out of there, 572 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 5: and so has Gavin Newsome. And I think that that 573 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 5: should tell you really all you need to know about 574 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 5: who this guy is and where his allegiances lie. 575 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: No, it says all he needs to know. He is 576 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: a quintessential globalist. Frankly, if they're ever one, Gavin Newsome 577 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: of the World Economic Forum less so than of Sacramento 578 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: or his home state. Jillian Michaels gain Folks, the host 579 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: of They Keep You Real With Jillian Michael's podcast, You'll 580 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: be with us after a very short commercial break, stayed 581 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: with us for much more with Jillian Michaels. After a 582 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: quick commercial break, Welcome back, and we continue our conversation 583 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: with Jillian Michael's fitness icon host of the Keeping Real 584 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: with Jillian Michael's podcast, also a lifelong or nearly lifelong 585 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: California's Jillian. Before the break, we're talking about Gavin Newsom 586 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: and his seeming allegiances to the globalist class less. So 587 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: to the people of California, you know, specifically your city 588 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles has been in the news recently with 589 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: the continued fallout of this horrific fire in the in 590 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: the Palisades just over a year ago last January. Is 591 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: there going to be any accountability when it comes to 592 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: Karen Bass, when it comes to any of the relevant 593 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: individuals from the fire departments to the alleged DII corruption. 594 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: Is there going to be any accountability for any of 595 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: what seemed to me to be horrific misdeeds committed here 596 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: in this fire in Los Angeles. 597 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 5: Accountability, I'm going to say no changes going forward. Possibly 598 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 5: so there is a class action lawsuit, but it's going 599 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 5: after the state, not the politicians. Unfortunately, having said that 600 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 5: Newsom as I think it was like thirty three billion 601 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 5: dollars in funds to rebuild Palisades in Altadena. 602 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 3: I believe should he. 603 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 5: Get that money, there will absolutely be conditions attached, which 604 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 5: is what California desperately needs, because the reality is that 605 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 5: people are, oh my god, it was once in a 606 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 5: century fire. 607 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: Oh, this is such a lie. 608 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 5: It had the campfire, the Woolsey fire, Kincaid fire. It's 609 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 5: every single year under his leadership. 610 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: I lost my home in twenty eighteen. 611 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 5: And Gavin Newsom was just moving into the governor the 612 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 5: role of governor, just got elected as governor in California. 613 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 5: And here's the bottom line, just so you understand, there 614 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 5: are the San Ana wins in California. 615 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: They have been around in California since the Pacific has 616 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: kissed the coast. Okay, this is not new news. 617 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 5: What we used to do, In fact, all the way 618 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 5: back to the Chumash Indians here in California were controlled 619 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 5: burns because when you do controlled burns, there is no 620 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 5: fuel for these fires when the winds rip through the canyons. 621 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 5: Now we have laws in place here in California that 622 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 5: block forestry management. Gavin Newsom actually blocked a bill called 623 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 5: AB two three three zero that passed all the legislative 624 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 5: bodies in California to do forestry management. And I'll give 625 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 5: you one more piece that you should know about. This 626 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 5: is the class action lawsuit pertains to the fact that 627 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 5: there was a fire called the Lockman Fire on January first, 628 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 5: late in Topanga Crete State Park. 629 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: And the firefighters wanted to go back and make sure 630 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 3: this was out. 631 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 5: They knew that we were getting Santa Ana wins in 632 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 5: about three to four days from then, and they were 633 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 5: prohibited from doing so because in state parks you cannot 634 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 5: have the type of equipment required to fully extinguish the 635 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 5: fire in order to protect a milk vetch weed, which, 636 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 5: by the way, has been burned to the ground. 637 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 3: Now the list of incompetencies. One more thing. 638 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 5: In twenty fourteen, Proposition one passed and billions of dollars 639 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 5: were allocated to build new reservoirs across the state. Not 640 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 5: one has been built, and in fact, the reservoir uphill 641 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 5: from the Palisades Sanjana's Reservoir was empty for eighteen months 642 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 5: for a cover that never got fixed, that was never 643 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 5: worked on, and the best. 644 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 3: Part and that I promised Josh, I want to stop. 645 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 5: Is they turned around and said, well, you know, if 646 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 5: that had been filled with water, it wouldn't have mattered anyway. 647 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 6: Well, in that case, if the if the infrastructure you 648 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 6: have in place to put out fires that you know 649 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 6: are coming every year is insufficient, shouldn't you have taken 650 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 6: action ahead of time to have dealt with this. 651 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 5: And protect the people of Palisades? But none of that happened. 652 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 5: The fire department was underfunded, they were prepositioned, no command 653 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 5: centers were set up. 654 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: And I think the bigger question you have to ask 655 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 3: is this incompetence year after year after year? Is Newsom 656 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 3: really that dumb? 657 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 5: Is he? 658 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 3: Is it negligence? Is it a land grab? 659 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 5: And again I don't want to be conspiratorial, but I 660 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 5: encourage people to do their own research on the topic. 661 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: You know, the thing that Jillian that I can't quite 662 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: figure out is this, which is California's most formidable let's 663 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: call them politicians are invariably like this, are they not. 664 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: Kabala Harris has essentially, from what I can tell, failed 665 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: upward and virtually every job she's held, from day in 666 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco to attorney General to send her to the 667 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: Vice president to nearly President. Gavin Newsom has similarly failed upward. 668 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Gavin Newsom is literally this is an amazing 669 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: stat He's the first governor in the history of California's 670 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: as California became a state in the eighteen fifties. He's 671 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: the first governor to oversee a population decline. California rose 672 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: and rose, and rose and rose. I mean, go yes, 673 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: go west, young man. This is like the phrase for 674 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: much of American history. And it seems that they're rewarded 675 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: for it, that they are rewarded for this incompetence. And 676 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure we have you have any thoughts on that, 677 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: but it's something that I just can't quite figure out. 678 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: Other than that, at the soberly conclude that for a 679 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: lot of Americans, perhaps in particular for a lot of Californians, 680 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: it seems that results in actual policies in the day 681 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: to day quality of life just take a backstage to 682 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: other more superficial factors. That basically how you see. 683 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 3: It, I don't think it's superficial factors. I think it's 684 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 3: a different agenda. 685 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 5: So I'll give you an example when Gavin Newsom was 686 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 5: mayor of San Francisco. 687 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: He formed a partnership with China. 688 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 5: It was called China SF so that they could buy 689 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 5: land in California and China SF would remove all the 690 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 5: red tape to help them build and establish businesses. And 691 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 5: yet Californians have all of this red tape weaponized against them. 692 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 5: So again circling back to the fire, just as an example, 693 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 5: people can't even get a. 694 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 3: Permit to rebuild their house. 695 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 5: But he vetoed a bill that would block China from 696 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 5: buying land in California, and he facilitated their ability to 697 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 5: remove all the red tape and. 698 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 3: Build instead of businesses. 699 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 5: Here you tell me, I mean, does that sound superficial 700 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 5: or does it sound like you have other allegiances? And 701 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 5: when Jijinping came to San Francisco, my god, the streets 702 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 5: were spotless for forty eight hours. 703 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Really, it just he doesn't care, Josh, he doesn't care. 704 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 5: California is a stepping stone to a much bigger stage 705 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 5: and we all know it. And he utilizes trumped arrangement 706 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 5: syndrome to bury the facts. So he has turned around 707 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 5: to fires on Trump, the stall and rebuilding on Trump. 708 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 3: Oh, I had to climate change and is the reason 709 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: because he's just he's he's such an ignorant buffoon who 710 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 3: denies climate change. 711 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 5: And we can't rebuild because Trump won't give me thirty 712 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 5: three billion more dollars despite all of the. 713 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 3: Bailouts that California has been given year after year after 714 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 3: year after year, and the fact that it really depends 715 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: on Congress. I mean, the list is so long. He 716 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 3: doesn't care. And to address specifically the population issue, I'll 717 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 3: tell you this. 718 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 5: He was recently on Sean Ryan's podcast and he's like, 719 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 5: people talk about everybody leaving California. 720 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 3: We have had an increase in our population in California. 721 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 5: Yes, in undocumented rights immigrants. 722 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: That is straight up the answer. 723 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 5: You had an out migration that actually is net negative 724 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 5: to the tune of five. 725 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 3: Hundred thousand, but the influx are people who are not citizens. 726 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely nuts admitted that. Yeah, a very very convenient omittance there, 727 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: for sure, Jillian to me, a very gratu your time. 728 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: Just about a minute, let's say a more positive note here, 729 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: kind of going back to your long standing bona fides 730 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 1: and in the MAHA public elsphere, what would be one 731 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: very practical bit of advice that you would have to 732 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: folks out there who just feel like their health has 733 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: gone away from them, how to go ahead and seize 734 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: the moment and take back control of how they are 735 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: feeling mentally, physically, perhaps even spiritually. 736 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 5: Honestly, I like to give people small steps and meet 737 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 5: them where they're at. The reality is that if you 738 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 5: just do two things right. Let's say we cut out 739 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 5: calories from beverages. That does mean alcohol. It's not great 740 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 5: for you. So does juices, sugary coffees. Yes, you can 741 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 5: have coffee, don't add a bunch of stuff to it. 742 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 5: Just that alone, we'll probably take ten pounds a year 743 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 5: off of you. And to give you an example of 744 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 5: what I mean, quickly, one hundred extra calories a day, 745 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 5: which would be that drink arguably and then some is 746 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,439 Speaker 5: going to equal about a pound a month. 747 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 3: That's twelve pounds a year. 748 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 5: Just that change is either going to keep you from 749 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 5: gain ten pounds and probably remove it. 750 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 3: And I'd have a step goal. 751 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 5: Get yourself a little walking pad, because it's irrelevant what 752 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 5: the weather would be outside. You can watch TV while 753 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 5: you're walking. You can answer your emails roll calls while 754 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 5: you're walking. There are a couple hundred bucks on Amazon 755 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 5: and make your minimum step goal five thousand steps a day. 756 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 5: They say sitting is the new smoking. 757 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 3: Ideally we would get up to ten thousand. 758 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 5: I know it seems like a lot, but you'd be 759 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 5: surprised at how many steps you get in without even 760 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 5: realizing it. Just these two little things can I have 761 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 5: such a dramatic impact on your metaball like health. 762 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 3: Just those two little things. 763 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: I recommend amazing stuff. Jillian, You're an angel with wonderfully 764 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: practical advice. Follow Jillian on x Folks at Julian Michaels. 765 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: Check out our show Keeping It Real with Jillian Michaels. 766 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: Jillian wishing you all the best. Thank you so much 767 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: for Bible. Let's do this again sometimes soon. 768 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 3: I would love it. Thank you for having me. 769 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: You, beat and folks, thank you as always. Watching today's 770 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: eisode of Josh Hammer Show. Have a great weekend. We'll 771 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: be right back on Monday. 772 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 4: The Josh Hammer Show is a member of the Must Project.