1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: What Weekend Breakfast in the music corner. Good boto love us. 2 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: Hello, it's a go by Azawadi Yamungo taking us to 3 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: seventeen minutes before ten o'clock and that's how we kick 4 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: off the music corner for this morning. It's proudly and 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: loudly South African this morning speaking to musician, vocalist, composer, arranger, 6 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: but also most importantly quabao player, a bowl player. Zawadiyamongo 7 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: joins us this morning. Zawadi, A very good morning to you. 8 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to weekend Breakfast. 9 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I good morning. How are you guys? 10 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: Well well and how are you? 11 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm tired, I'm excited though setting for you this morning. 12 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: For joining us this morning. So for people who don't 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 2: know who you are, who is sawadi Ya. 15 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Mongol Sawardia Mongom. Firstly, the stage name is in Kiswahili 16 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: language and it meant a gift from God. It is 17 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: a direct translation of my name Zulu name Gosimpel and 18 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: go Banguzulu actually, and then I was born in Mandani. 19 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: I grew up in Mandani uh but currently in Durban, 20 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: so I'm just case it and based. And then I'm 21 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: an instrumentalist. I'm very interested in indigenous instruments, the instruments 22 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: that are usually not seen anymore, as I playuan apple 23 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: instrument and also play a hand pen, which the instruments 24 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: that was most popular back in the days. Right. 25 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: So, growing up in MANDANEI North and Case, and do 26 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: you remember your first I guess like your clearest memory 27 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: of music and kind of not only just experiencing music 28 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: as a listener, which is I guess how most of 29 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: us experience music, but it was something you realized you 30 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: could do, you could do well, and that you enjoyed 31 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: doing as well. 32 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: Definitely, I think more than anything back in the days 33 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: when I was younger, I only loved music. I sang 34 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: at church. I was a leader. I remember this one 35 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: time they really called their way, even calling me Mahalia 36 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: at church, and then at school as well. I started groups. 37 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: I formed music music groups, and then I was very 38 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: inspired by Jennifer Hudson's songs and I used to perform 39 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: those songs a lot. So I was hoping that one 40 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: day I'll be the next Jennifer Hudson in the world. 41 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's interesting that you were kind of looking 42 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: at Jennef Hadson of course as an American African American singer. 43 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: But your music is so deeply rooted in not just 44 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: I think South Africa, but in Africa and general, from 45 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: the instruments. 46 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: You play to maybe the language I'm using, the. 47 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: Language, to the storytelling using Amahubo. So how did you 48 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: kind of find that as the thing you wanted to do? 49 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: So you were looking at oh, I like Genef Hadton, 50 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: I like her voice. I'd like to be perhaps like her. 51 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: But then you find this particular sound and I guess 52 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: this becomes part of your creative identity or part of 53 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: the music you want to make. 54 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Yes, when I joined African Heriticien Ensemble that was in 55 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen post Metric, I met Causa and he had 56 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: a group that was called Jenef Heerdson. Why that was 57 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: called African Heritagens, and then I joined the group. I 58 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: was part of the group. And then I think because 59 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: he was really giving us the teachings about culture, preserving culture, 60 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: heritage and also our roots, our identity. I think then 61 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: I found myself. I found my sound. Singing Amaho was 62 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: daily being influenced by Princess Macco's songs. And then Bosom 63 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: Showers songs. It then gave me a sense of I 64 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 1: really really wants to sound like this. I really really 65 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: wants to be a person that preserves our culture more 66 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: than anything, and a person that preserves our sound more 67 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: than anything. And for our youth, for our people, for 68 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: our future generation, for letting making sure that anything that 69 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: belongs to us or belonged to us does not die 70 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: because of us. Yeah, as an artist here. 71 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: I was reading an interview you did with News twenty 72 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: four and you were speaking about your debut album, which 73 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: you released in twenty twenty at Macoco School of Thought 74 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: as a tribute to Princess Makoko, and you were quoted 75 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: as saying, while working on the album, I was afraid 76 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 2: that the music would only resonate with older people, because 77 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: they are the ones who might be familiar with Princess 78 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: Makoko and other people who played the kind of instruments 79 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: I use. I was pleasantly surprised by how well the 80 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: music was received. Tell us about I guess some of 81 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: the responses you've gotten from your listeners, from people listening 82 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: to your music for the first time, especially if they 83 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: are younger, and maybe some of them have never heard 84 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: of Princess Macoco. They picked up Macoco for the thought 85 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: and so talk to us about how that's been, you know, 86 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 2: that experience for you, a realizing other people wanted to 87 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 2: listen to it and what they have experienced and shared 88 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: with you. 89 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: I can even tell by when I'm announcing that I 90 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: have a show, and when people miss me around maybe 91 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: on events, most young people comes to me and saying, 92 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: we respect you, we love your music, we really love 93 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: to learn more about Princess Macoco, would really love to 94 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: learn more from you. And they really even think I 95 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: carry a lot of knowledge around our culture and how 96 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: to even execute the voice, you know, that that old voice, 97 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: you know, because there's a difference between singing ehobo and 98 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: that voice that evokes emotions when singing I'm a hobo 99 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: and the voice that I don't know. That's that's that 100 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: we now use mostly, you know, in our times. So Langa, 101 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: your Princess Macoco, that's thiner voice that carries a lot 102 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: of history in it. You know when they when when 103 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: maybe na the flow off from the top to the 104 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: bottom and then also be able to come up again. 105 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: But using the voice, those nuances are still as relevant 106 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: and special and they have died because of them, because 107 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: Bona Basek or you know, so we really had to 108 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: have somebody else or other artists as well, or musicians 109 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: that could really bring those voices back to our people. 110 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: But what's there? The most beautiful thing is that they 111 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: it is being received very well by Avan Debaseba, because 112 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: I knew when I did those songs that, okay, my 113 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: tact clearly is old people, people that knows history about 114 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: prints and our histringy is Africans. But in my surprise 115 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: that even in new universities, I've met a lot of 116 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: people from universities, have visited a few of US universities 117 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: as well, and all people and all young ones, they 118 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: all come to me to say, can you teach us 119 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: from Aquayana how to make it? How to play it, 120 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: but how to marry the voice with an instrument and 121 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: everything that I do, you know. So it came to 122 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: my surprise, but also I'm excited that it was able 123 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: to be received like that. 124 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're currently on tour then, so you actually just 125 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: played a show in Durban. You have a show coming 126 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: up in Joeburg. Are there any tickets left for the 127 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: Joeburg show? Or has it sold out? 128 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: No, it's not sold out yet. They're not sold out. 129 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: I was excited. We just didn't show yesterday. It was 130 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: amazing Conriche to be at the Market Theater and they 131 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: on the fourteenth of March. The ticket are still available 132 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: at red Tickets and I have all the links on 133 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: my bios if you can still go and grab the ticket, 134 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: because hey, guys, for the Durban it was a mess. 135 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: Tickets went out and people were really really torturing me 136 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: around about tickets. They'll wanted tickets, but so badly. Unfortunately 137 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't help. So please, when you still have time, 138 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: I can just people just go and buy tickets at 139 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: wept tickets or at pick and Pay using the links 140 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: on my bios. A countrait to bring the instance of 141 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: de Moche and all that I am on stage and 142 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: celebrate with them being beautiful and being in our beautiful country. 143 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: And then I'm also at the untitled Basement on the twelfth, 144 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: So if you can't make it on the fourteenth, I'm 145 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: at the antipe of Basement just voicing piano on the 146 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: twelfth of March. 147 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: Sounds like a treat. Zawadi, Thank you so much for 148 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: giving us your time this morning. A great peasure having 149 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 2: you on the show. 150 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so so much for having me. Enjoy your 151 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: day you too. 152 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: That's musician, vocalist, composer, arranger and multi instrumentalist Zawadi yamon Go. 153 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: Here is Gimouche on the music Horner 154 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: Now Bunny the Lesser musing on one goals in ter