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Speaker 1: Let's go to the courts where former Cape Town teacher

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Speaker 1: Ian Wes has been found guilty of indecently assaulting a

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Speaker 1: former learner known only as Stephen in the Weinberg Regional Court.

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Speaker 1: The eyewitness news reporter that's been following that story for

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Speaker 1: us is into Zelo Na and he joins me now

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Speaker 1: on the line into Dozello. Thanks for your time this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: How was the court proceedings today? How were the court

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Speaker 1: proceedings rather.

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Speaker 2: Good, afternoon, Amy. The the sentencing of the verdict was

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Speaker 2: not that long. The magistrate was just firstly rehashing the

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Speaker 2: evidence and the testimony of Stephen and his wife about

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Speaker 2: the you know, the central assault that he he experienced

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Speaker 2: in the hands of Ian Wes and Ian Wes's defense

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Speaker 2: and in his testimony Stephen mentioned that, you know, during

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Speaker 2: school hours, Ian Wess, who was a teacher at Roonder

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Speaker 2: Bush Boys Primary School in nineteen eighty eight when these

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Speaker 2: incidents happened, and also was a coach of the cricket

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Speaker 2: and rabbie teams at the school, he would stop him

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Speaker 2: in the school's corridors and pretend to be helping him

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Speaker 2: touch his shirt and he would then pinch his buttroks

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Speaker 2: and touch his front private parts. Stephen also testified that

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Speaker 2: at times ian Wes would be violent and bank his

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Speaker 2: head or body against the wall and would also push

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Speaker 2: his private parts against Steven. The defense you know, in

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Speaker 2: cross examination, tried to discredit Stephen, mentioning a time he

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Speaker 2: was described by the Labor Court as an unreliable witness

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Speaker 2: in a case he was testifying in. But the court

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Speaker 2: said it cannot take what other courts have said about

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Speaker 2: Stephen in a different case and applied to this case.

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Speaker 2: So it found him to be credible and reliable in

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Speaker 2: this case and rejected ian Wes' version of the events

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Speaker 2: that he did not remember the complaint and could not

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Speaker 2: have committed the sexual assault allegations leveled against him. So

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Speaker 2: the court found him guilty then of interocent assault and

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Speaker 2: a date for sentencing has been set down for being

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Speaker 2: thirteen And.

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Speaker 1: To Dazello, what kind of sentence will Stevens legal team

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Speaker 1: be asking the court tempos The.

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Speaker 2: State did not mention what you know, what is the

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Speaker 2: sentence that they are going for, But I'm sure they

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Speaker 2: will be going for any maximum sentence that could be

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Speaker 2: posed for such a and offense. And also Ian Wess

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Speaker 2: is facing similar charges in Scotland. Amy is facing about

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Speaker 2: ninety charges related to the sexual and physical abuse of

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Speaker 2: more than sixty small boys in Scotland, dating back in

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Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties and nineteen seventies when he was a

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Speaker 2: teacher there. He will appear in the Simonstown Magistrates Court

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Speaker 2: for that on April sixteen for his extradition hearing and

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Speaker 2: to confirm the charges, the exact charges he is to

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Speaker 2: be extradited on. And we also spoke to Steven earlier

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Speaker 2: while the founder of Women Against Women and Men Against

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Speaker 2: Child Abuse, Miranda Jordan Cole Stephen in our presence and

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Speaker 2: you know, afforded us an opportunity to record that phone

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Speaker 2: call conversation that they were having and just speaking about

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Speaker 2: you know, how he feels now that you know, Ian

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Speaker 2: West has been found guilty of this offense and you know,

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Speaker 2: expressing his relief that you know, was will finally be punished.

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Speaker 1: For his deeds. How did Ian Wears himself seem in court?

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Speaker 2: He looked shocked when the guilty verdict was was handed down.

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Speaker 2: He had his hand on his cheek and he looked

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Speaker 2: confused and yeah, so and he after the proceedings he

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Speaker 2: quickly left the court building while we were still busy

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Speaker 2: with interviews, so we couldn't get a chance or you know,

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Speaker 2: of seeing him leave court. And you know how he

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Speaker 2: was after you know, the the court proceedings inside court,

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Speaker 2: but inside court he looked shocked, he looked surprised, and

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Speaker 2: he had his hand on his chip the whole time.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, just looking confused.

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Speaker 1: Dozela, Do we know what impact today's judgment will have

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Speaker 1: on the extradition request.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what impact will this have, but I

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Speaker 2: previously when we spoke to the n PA, they said,

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Speaker 2: you know, the the extradition will have to wait for

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Speaker 2: the finalization of the South African letter. So now that

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Speaker 2: this looks like it's coming to to an end, we

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Speaker 2: will see. But I'm sure Ian with his legal team

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Speaker 2: Ben Matthewsin will try and fight this on maybe on appeal,

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Speaker 2: but we will have to wait and see on the

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Speaker 2: thirteenth of me what will happened after.

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Speaker 1: And Dusello, you know, Ian Ways is eighty six years

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Speaker 1: old now and would have had a remarkable impact on

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Speaker 1: this boy's life. This Stephen, which he's had had to

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Speaker 1: carry for very very many years, has Stephen intimated at

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Speaker 1: all that it's just a little bit too late, too late,

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Speaker 1: too little, too late.

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Speaker 2: No, he actually in the phone conversation that he had

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Speaker 2: with Miranda Jordan, he was saying, you know, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter that the trial took three years to to to conclude.

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Speaker 2: What matters is that you know, Ian Wes has finally,

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Speaker 2: you know, been found guilty of abusing him and hopefully

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Speaker 2: that you know, the the other courts will also find

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Speaker 2: him guilty if and when he's extra dieted to the UK,

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Speaker 2: so that everyone who has had an encounter of this

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Speaker 2: nature with Ian Wess can find closure. Yeah, for him,

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Speaker 2: this is a closure, he said. He carried this for

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Speaker 2: more than thirty years and you know it's something that

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Speaker 2: he will live with for the rest of his life.

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Speaker 2: But you know, some sort of burden has been relieved

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Speaker 2: of his shoulder, and you know his family now can

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Speaker 2: start healing and you know, finding a way forward for themselves.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much for covering that story so

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Speaker 1: comprehensively for us and for your time this afternoon. Intozella

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Speaker 1: Nee the e WN reporter who was in court this

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Speaker 1: afternoon and the Wineberg Regional Court and who will be

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Speaker 1: again next month in the Simon's Town Magistrate's Court for

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Speaker 1: that extradition hearing