1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Cape Talk A Worldview from London with Adam Gilbert. It's 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: nineteen minutes to eight o'clock. Adam Gilchris live from London. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: We're talking about this concept of a super fan in 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: South Africa. Look, we have had these characters that you 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: have in the past been funded by the state but 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: also by a lot of private entities to go to 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: go to major sporting events and waiver South African flags 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: be characters. But by the conversation in South Africa this 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: morning of we should be paying for that. Besides the 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Barmy Army and the groups that travel with the British 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: and Irish allions. Is here the concept of a super 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: fan when it comes to English. 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: Sport, I'd say not. We seem to get visited by 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: a few the people there are the odd ones. There 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: are some people who worked out about ten years ago 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: that it was cheaper to fly to certain Europeans and 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: support those teams than to go to a Premier League 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: football match. So I mean apocryphally, it was always said 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: that it was easier to get a ticket, for instance, 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: even to go to Real Madrid or Barcelona and to 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: fly there as well cheaply sort of for I don't know, 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: twenty or thirty quid. Then it was to ever get 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 2: on a waiting list to try and get a ticket 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: to go and see Arsenal or Liverpool or Manchester United 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: or Manchester City. That I don't know if that quite 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: counts as super fandom, but I think we certainly do 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: get some nutters who come here. 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, okay, let's start with the shaky Seas fire, 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: the aneasy US Israel Iran cruce with also bombings in 30 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: Beirut in the last twenty. 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Four Absolutely, Israel has upped the ante, it says, attacking Hesbala, 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: trying to get rid of an Iranian backed terrorist group. 33 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: And of course this predates anything that's happened in Iran 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: in the last forty days or so, but it's intensified 35 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: and so the latest report is that two hundred and 36 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: fifty four people have lost their lives. Because the attacks 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: aren't just on Hesballa strongholds. They seem to take out 38 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: apartment blocks and civilian areas, which is very difficult for 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: other allies to accept. America seems to be okay with it, 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: but I don't know if that still makes it okay. Certainly, 41 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: now we've got Iran, accusing Israel therefore of breaking the 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: cease fire. Because Iran absolutely thought that the whole Israel 43 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: Lebanon thing was part of the ceasefire, as did Pakistan, 44 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: which helped broker the whole deal. The United States and 45 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: Israel have a different view that, no, it's got nothing 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: to do with the ceasefire with Iran. Iran actually claims 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: that the ceasefire has been broken three times already, including 48 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: a drone incursion over its skies, and also, what is 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: the ceasefire deal? Intriguingly, having tried to read around it, 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: and maybe I got lost up an ally at some point, 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: it does look like the United States has one ten 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: point plan and Iran has two ten point plans, depending 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: on which one was presented to its National Committee and 54 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: which one was sort of publicly made available. Donald Trump 55 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: has overnight underlined that the ten point plan he is 56 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: referring to, with the ceasefire agreement as part of it, 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: absolutely does include no nuclear enrichment by Iran, which is 58 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: not something that Iran itself had accepted was on the table. 59 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: It's a tad confusing, it's unsatisfactory, and we still don't 60 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: know if any ships can remotely go near the Strait 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: of Holmur's and therefore whether the whole world's oil crisis 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: is still there, because at this stage it looks like 63 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: Iran is saying you've got to pay us, You've got 64 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: to agree to it, and America is saying, no, we 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: didn't agree to Iran controlling the Strait of homurs Ah. Yeah, 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: a couple of days in it's looking precarious. 67 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: And then the technology will always be ahead of the 68 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: law makers. But the is the wave of regulation sweeping 69 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: many countries. Greece has now banned social media use. 70 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: For children, yes, the under fifteens. They've gone slightly lower 71 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: than Australia, for instance, which is under sixteen. I think 72 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: a lot of countries looking under sixteen. The Greece has 73 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 2: said they will absolutely ban social media access for under 74 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: fifteens from the first of January next year, and the 75 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: Greek Prime Minister Kiliakos mitsos Kakis says that basically they 76 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: need to do something about rising anxiety amongst young people 77 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: and children, sleep problems, addictive platforms. Parents have been pushing 78 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: for something like this well, certainly various parent groups have. 79 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: It is said that seventy five percent of children who 80 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: use social media in Greece are primary school aged, so 81 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: under twelve seventy five percent, suggesting what it tails off 82 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: in teamhood. I'm not sure about that, but anyway, the 83 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: Greek PM has recorded a special message for children, saying 84 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: spending long hours in front of screens won't allow your 85 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: minds to rest, and he's urging this to become an 86 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: EU thing, interestingly, which I can't quite see. I think 87 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: it's an individual nation thing. So far, Australia, France, Spain 88 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: and Malaysia so far have taken action. We are looking 89 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: at it. I guess you're looking at it, and you're right. 90 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: It does feel like, largely speaking, the social bands don't 91 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: work because kids and others find ways around it. But 92 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: we're still kind of thinking it's not a bad idea, 93 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: is it. 94 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: And then I was on the Fairest Wheel in December. 95 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: It was a rickety old thing. I survived. Of course 96 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: I am here, but it was with great trepidation that 97 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: I thought one of my worst fears would come true 98 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: and lo and be old. This morning I see a 99 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: very lucky escape in Mexico. 100 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: Oh this is amazing. Yes, next time you're on a 101 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: rickety ride This is like something from Superman though, a 102 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: woman thrown off a fairground ride. It was sort of 103 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: one of these sort of spinning hammers. In fact, it's 104 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: called the Hammer ride, and it spins round and round 105 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: and you kind of go upside down briefly and round 106 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: and about. And she was spun off it and was 107 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: caught by a man standing below. Now, admittedly, and it's 108 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: rotating hammer, there was a mechanical clunk. You can hear 109 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: a clunk in a video taken as the arms spins around. 110 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: The woman slips off, so she's only two or three 111 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: meters off the ground. She is going relatively slowly because 112 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: the ride is kind of already half broken. But when 113 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: she comes down, she comes down heavily, and a man 114 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: just seems to catch her and then straighten her up 115 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: and walk her off to the side, and it all 116 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: is right. Is rain. By the way, four people were 117 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: injured in the same incident, and there is an investigation 118 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: into what happened. But what are the chances of that 119 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: being thrown off a fairground ride and caught by some bloke, 120 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: not her partner, even just some stranger. She looks a 121 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: little nonplast but then you would wouldn't you. 122 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: Where did you come from? Superman Adam Gilchrist. I'll chat 123 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: you again tomorrow live from London with the Worldview. Stay well,