1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Billy Rafool is a Canadian singer songwriter with really an 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: unmistakable voice, grit and I don't know what else, but 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: just gorgeous and lovely. Raised in a musical family in Ontario, Canada, 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: which was just talking about. Hence the Margaret Apple stuff. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm told that he began writing songs at the age 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: of ten and playing gigs before he'd even graduated from 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: high school. He's got new music. He's been touring the world, 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: and the world includes take note, people like Beyonce. The 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: world includes South Africa. She said. Honestly, that's nonsense, because 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, if Beyonce came out, she's 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: not as you know, if you're a regular listener to 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: the now, I'm not part of the beehive, Bayhive, whatever 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: it's called. What I am part of is the talented 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: musician Hive. And there he is. Enter you, sir, Hello, thank. 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: You so much for having me. Yes year, I appreciate it. 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to I mean, she's one of my taker 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: or leave her? I can't. 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: Can we spend can we spend this whole in me 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: trying to win your around Beyonce? Rather we do get 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: afterwards it's. 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: Not a hatred. You know, nobody needs to write in 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: and do anything. It's just that of my top five 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: people that if I wanted to see somebody live, she 24 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't be in there. 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, I've seen her. One of the most insane 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: voices I've ever heard, Like the songs everything production to once, 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: I just just sing it. 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: We could talk about and I feel like I might, 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: I might get on the wrong side of you. 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: You can't. 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Of the three members of Destiny's Child current current iteration, 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: her voice. Her voice isn't my favorite hashtag Kelly Welling. 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: I mean Kelly's Kelly is great to talk about you 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: and all right, all right? That was That was a 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: good opening. 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Good Yeah, wasn't it. You began writing songs at the 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: age of ten, So. 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if you calm songs, but I was, 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: I was, I was putting words together. I guess I don't. 40 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't play any of them now, Yeah. 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: Wouldn't if you were like a little Stevie Wonder. 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, just first swing, headed out of the park, just. 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: Hitting out songs in the key of life at the 44 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: age of ten. What your is? Am I right in 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: thinking that your dad is the musical. Absolutely, yes, tell 46 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: us tell us about your dad briefly. 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: So I got to start playing gigs while I was 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: in high school and throughout high school. My dad actually 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: dropped out his first year of high school to start 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: to start a band. Wow, pave the way for me 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: to kind of end up doing this some twenty years 52 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: later or whatever. But yeah, he's he's only ever been 53 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: a musician. I'm the oldest of five. Oh come on, 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: you know that's been you know, our entire life. 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: So you saw what life could be like. And I 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: suppose also there is when dad is the musician, he 57 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: can't very well say, can't get into this son, that's 58 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: exactly really dad, that's really exactly You're going to die 59 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: on Okay. 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like getting into the family business. Really, 61 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: Like he had the hard conversation with his parents, my grandparents, 62 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: you know, which were immigrants from Lebanon to Canada. Sure, 63 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: and they were like, what do you mean You're not 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: going to be a doctor or a dentist or something. 65 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: So he had that conversation, so I didn't have to. 66 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: I was just like, I'm going to do what you do? 67 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: Was he was he excited by that? Was he delighted 68 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: by that. 69 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely. So many people ask me if it was you know, 70 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: pushed onto me and my brother Peter, who's also a musician, 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: but not all. We just we grew up with such 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: a love for it and the proximity to it, and 73 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: it just happened naturally out of interest. 74 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: What do the reminder of the Reful siblings do for work? 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: Well, there's quite a gap between between my brother Peter, 76 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: who's a year and half younger than me, and then 77 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: Caiden is sixteen, so there's and then the yes, the 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: Caden's sixteen, Judah is fourteen in Bulochia, the babysit. There's 79 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: names again, Caiden, Judah and Bulochia. Come on, yeah, there's sixteen, fourteen, 80 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: and twelve, so it's still early. I feel like they're 81 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: all musical. Caden's working at a pizza shop, which is 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: exactly what I was doing when I was sixteen. So 83 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: here we you know, I don't know, he's on the trajectory. 84 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: We'll seek yeah, yeah, yeah, and then talk to us 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 1: about your relationship with South Africa. I love when people 86 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: come over here and kind of get an affinity with 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: the place. This is your third. 88 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: Trip, yeah, and my first trip. I came over here 89 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: with Neon dreams. They were gracious enough to bring me 90 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 2: over for their Dreaming Out Loud, their inaugural Dreaming out 91 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: Loud to her, Yeah, in twenty twenty three. I Believe 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: and A twenty twenty three, and it just knocked me out. 93 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: It was like, you know, I had no idea what 94 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: to expect, both just the country itself and then the people. 95 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: And from the very first song of the first show 96 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: and having everybody scream the words to these songs back 97 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: to me was like, well, I want to do this 98 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: as much and as often as possible. 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: You know, talk to me about that as a songwriter, 100 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: as a performer, the moment where because at some point 101 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: you're sitting it's going to say sing in your bedroom wherever, 102 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: and you're you know, the chords are coming, the melody 103 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: is coming, the words are coming, and then at some 104 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: point in time, an entire room full of people are 105 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: singing thoughts that were in your brain back to you. 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: I need to get into that moment. 107 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: Well, that's the whole reason I do it. Like so, 108 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: I feel like some people really love to make music 109 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: in the studio and others, you know, maybe they prefer 110 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: to like myself. It's all about the live show and 111 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: a means to get to the live show. And having 112 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: coming over here for those first shows, seeing songs trans 113 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: that I did right in my bedroom, you know, back 114 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: home in Canada. Seeing what they could do on the 115 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: other side of the world was so inspiring, and I 116 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: went back and immediately went back to the well and 117 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: the mindset I was in when I wrote those songs 118 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: that were traveling and tried to create more of them, 119 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: specifically just to get back on stage over here and 120 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 2: sing new music along with the audience. And that's what 121 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: that's what happened last year with my self titled album. 122 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: It was purposefully engineered for this reason. And then to 123 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: hear those songs this tour resonate as well, Yeah, it's crazy. 124 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: Sounds crazy and moving, and I imagine that an awful 125 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: lot of I think sometimes when I have people who 126 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: sit in this seat, the thing that often people say 127 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: is that people don't appreciate how much of the business 128 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: that you're in his business, and that actually that that 129 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: part of things often isn't fun and can be difficult. 130 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: And so when I imagine when you can grab these 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: moments of joy of that you just want to. 132 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: It's put them in a jar, and it's a balancing act. 133 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: And you know, like you said, it is a business, 134 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: and all you can hope to do is as a 135 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: creative work with people who are on the business side 136 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: who have the same kind of appreciation that you do 137 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: for music, even if they're working on the other side 138 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: of it. And I'm super fortunate. I mean, she's sitting 139 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: right here but you can't see, but Natasha's here, Natasha Savage. 140 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: She has made it a dream to continue to come 141 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: back to South Africa, and she's just a big music 142 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: lover and that kind of pulls the business out of 143 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: it for me, which is amazing. 144 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Chefs out Natasha. The the touring part, I'm somebody who 145 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: loves to travel, but I appreciate that when you are 146 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: traveling for a work purpose versus traveling for pleasure, that's 147 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: a very different element. But are you able to are 148 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,239 Speaker 1: you able to immerse yourself? Are you able to to 149 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: find moments of pleasure in the travels? I looked at 150 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: your schedule for the rest of this month and next. 151 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to what Switzerland next? At the 152 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: end of this week at zero and then Germany. 153 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been and I hope too every time I 154 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: come over here get a couple more days of just 155 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: kind of doing nothing. And I think that's what we're 156 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: working towards, is coming back and making sure that we 157 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: can play some bigger shows and then also have time 158 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: to just tour the beautiful country. 159 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, What is your where is? You mentioned 160 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: that that that audience kind of the reciprocity of that 161 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: relationship informs your writing. What else? What else is your? 162 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: What else gives you that? Are you somebody that wakes 163 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and you have 164 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: a song to write? Or are you quite it's nine 165 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: o'clock on a Monday morning, pick up the guitar type. 166 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: I've done both things. I think that I think you 167 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: just can't, you know, turn it off. Ever, you can 168 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: try and make it feel like it's a nine to 169 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: five thing. And I've done that for records when I've 170 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: known I've had to go in, I'm like, I need 171 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: to make a new album, but just going to try 172 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: and Ed Sheeron has a great quote about turning the 173 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: tap on and trying to get to get some of 174 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: the bad stuff out of the way, trying to get 175 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: some of the duds out of the way before you 176 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: can get to the good songs. And that is definitely 177 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: a technique I think that that I like to try 178 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: and use. But then there's sometimes just spontaneous moments of 179 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: you know, inspiration. And I wrote a song the other 180 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: day at one of the shows that was that came 181 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: from singing different songs live and just being here and 182 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: the people, And yeah, I think there's no right way 183 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: to do it. I definitely work both ways. 184 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: And when you're putting together a piece of a project, 185 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: like an album, is that a collection of songs that 186 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: you have written over the years, not saying the ten 187 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: year old songs because we already know how I feel 188 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: about those. Is that a collecting or is that right 189 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: for an album? 190 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: I've done it again. I've done it both ways. But 191 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: absolutely I love to grab things from even a decade 192 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: plus ago, and that's what we did with with the 193 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: new song that we just put out, Honey. Yeah. I 194 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: feel like you never really finish an idea, you know, 195 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: even if it does come out and it's part of 196 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: this song, that that new thing is part of your 197 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: writing repertoire, or that new guitar part is part of 198 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: your writing repertire, and it's going to inform how you work, 199 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: you know, moving forward. So I think every album has 200 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: a bit of the last album in it. Every song 201 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: has a bit of you know, your songwriting history in it. 202 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned Honey, which we are going to 203 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: listen to now, in which you I gather you've teamed 204 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: up with a local artist, Bootlet g. 205 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely the incredible Buster G. Of course he. 206 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: Was on the show when just before Christmas. 207 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we also have Tatum Tides. It's another 208 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: incredible local artist that I have the pleasure of touring 209 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 2: with right now for the second time. The three of 210 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: us were on tour last year and we had one 211 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: day off kind of likely said, looking at the schedule, Yeah, 212 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: and we weren't burnt out. We somehow were inspired and 213 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: we got into the studio with with Bushley and Tatum's 214 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: producer Paul Paul Mitchell and our good friend Zach and 215 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: we just created the song in one afternoon and a 216 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: year later, it's out. 217 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: Now, let's take a listen to it. Honey, Stop. 218 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: Keep running running, I. 219 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: Wasn't expecting that. Get back on your sju, your headphones on, 220 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: keep talking good Okay, that's honey, and it's available, as 221 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: all the kids say, on all streaming platforms, and please 222 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: do yourself a favor and get behind it. All right, 223 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: you've got to show young Billy tonight the district Harrington Street. Yes, 224 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: love that, love that part of town. Seven pm. Can 225 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: we still get tickets for that? 226 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: I think there are a few tickets left. 227 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: The run don't walk, run. 228 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: Around, don't walk. We've been super fortunate. The majority of 229 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: the tours sold out. Last night was Crazy and Stellenbosch 230 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: and it was sold out. And yeah, it's gonna be 231 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: another act him tonight. 232 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah great, great, then absolutely, it's. 233 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: My second time in a year and it was amazing. 234 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then from here you. 235 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: Go to I got two days off in Toronto, which 236 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: is a heck of a haul for two days off, 237 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: and then and then I head to Zurich. 238 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: Hold on, so you're going back. Okay, that's gonna be 239 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: a lot, isn't it. How does your voice deal with 240 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: that kind of thing? 241 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: I'll check in in a couple weeks. I'll let you know. 242 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: It's it's like a it's I guess it's like a muscle. 243 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: As long as you you know, keep keep it going 244 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: every day then should be Okay. 245 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: Who are you listening to at the moment? 246 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: Jeez, I'm all over the place. I am all Beyonce. 247 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: I feel like we need to bring it back now. No, no, 248 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: I am uh geez, I've been Yeah. I have no genre. 249 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: It's like it's whatever is on the release or whatever's 250 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 2: comeing on. I love the new Hairy Styles record. I've 251 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: been digesting that. 252 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: Do you ever do? I tell you what what I where. 253 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: I like to be. I like to straddle new stuff 254 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: and then I like to go deep with likes them, 255 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: either like an artist who will be recently, like like 256 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: somebody that I may not have may not have been 257 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: on my radar, not because they're not amazing, but just 258 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: because I you know, I as a as a teenager, 259 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: I would kind of move towards the kind of R 260 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: and B hip hop thing. And then and then the 261 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: brain opens up to a little bit more and you 262 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: hear something and you go, who's that? And someone goes, 263 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: that's Linda Ronstadt and you go who and then you 264 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: kind of go down rabbit hole or something. I love doing. 265 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: I like to I like to be in two kind 266 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: of worlds. 267 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: Two even you know, generations. 268 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: At the yeah one hundred, especially. 269 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: Like with my father's influence, my mother's influence, who both 270 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: vast music you know tastes. Between the two of them, 271 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: it was impossible to not be inspired in the moment 272 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: by what I thought was cool now and also catching 273 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: up on the homework of music that they'd given me. Yeah, 274 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: it turns into the smelting part of like you know 275 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: it's its genreals. Yeah. 276 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: I was cruising along the end one last week and 277 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: for reasons I can't explain, I went I want to 278 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: hear some the Smiths. Yes, Yes, went into the Smith's 279 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: for a solid hour girlfriend, and I was like, I 280 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: was in there. It was a really good time. 281 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: I got to I got to play with Johnny Mayer 282 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: one time, and yeah. 283 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: There's the point of connection. 284 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: Believe me, if I got to play with Beyonce, we'd 285 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: be talking about her, That's all this interview would be about. 286 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: And I'd be showing you photos and I'd be trying 287 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: to win your right. 288 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: It's so good. But it's been an absolute treat. We've 289 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: literally got fifteen seconds. I'm sorry to wrap things up. 290 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: Wrap things up. I loved having you in Stu. 291 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: I love being here thank you so much so. 292 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: Africa, and see us again soon. The district Harrington Street, 293 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: go and get the last remaining tickets.