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Speaker 1: The worldview with Adam Gilchrist mourning.

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Speaker 2: Adam Mollie Ray. How are things not too bad?

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Speaker 1: But how things were the US, I mean NATO in

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Speaker 1: the balance. Donald Trump wants out of these seventy seven

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Speaker 1: year alliance. He is simply grumpy with him because they

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Speaker 1: didn't want to join his war.

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Speaker 2: Exactly in a nutshell, although as he says, we were

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Speaker 2: there for them, they weren't there for us. The more

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Speaker 2: level headed US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has reiterated

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Speaker 2: they really are on the verge of pulling out. So

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Speaker 2: we've got two heavyweights here, both the American president and

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Speaker 2: the American Foreign Secretary, essentially saying that NATO membership is

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Speaker 2: quote beyond consideration. The US President says he always knew

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Speaker 2: NATO was a paper tiger, and Vladimir Putin knows it too.

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Speaker 2: NATO is a paper tiger. But you're a part of NATO.

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Speaker 2: So does that make America part of the paper tigers?

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Speaker 2: The thing is created in nineteen forty nine, thirty two

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Speaker 2: member nations of NATO have kept the relative peace and

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Speaker 2: prevented predatory states from moving in. Is America now a

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Speaker 2: predatory state? Maybe it always was. I think there's there's

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Speaker 2: a PhD dissertation in there somewhere, isn't there is America

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Speaker 2: now world number one predatory state.

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Speaker 1: Ah yeah, sure, sure s. I'd love to hear the

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Speaker 1: answer for that one. On our isthmist line. Right, Israel's

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Speaker 1: death sentence law. This is so controversial, I would imagine

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Speaker 1: there's been a massive backlash against.

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Speaker 2: Us, absolutely right, including in Israel and beyond. And oh

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Speaker 2: my god, moment when Israel approved a bill to carry

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Speaker 2: out death sentences for those convicted of terrorism, but only

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Speaker 2: applied to Palestinians. Now, they do already have capital punishment

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Speaker 2: which has been carried out, but this is specifically for

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Speaker 2: terrorist offenses. So for Palestinians found guilty of intentionally carrying

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Speaker 2: out any kind of classified terrorist attack, it could indeed

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Speaker 2: be the death penalty through a military court, but not

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Speaker 2: for others. Within Israel, in Ramallah, in the Palestinian West Bank,

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Speaker 2: there have been protests, political factions, civil society groups, you

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Speaker 2: name it. The move has been condemned. The new law

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Speaker 2: has been condemned by the European Union in France, Germany, Italy,

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Speaker 2: the UK individually. America has been strangely quiet so far

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Speaker 2: on this but there are plenty of classes as discrimination

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Speaker 2: and also as not complying with international humanitarian law. The

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Speaker 2: only thing is, as with Donald Trump, does Benjamin Nessena,

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Speaker 2: who give two figs for what the rest of the

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Speaker 2: world thinks. That's, of course one of the problems.

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Speaker 1: You see, that's the thing, that's the whole thing, all right.

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Speaker 1: It's an armed robbery, not a prank. I love the story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, imagine this. This guy's trying to rob you,

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Speaker 1: and you think it's a prank.

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Speaker 2: Laughing it off all the time. They were, yes, this

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Speaker 2: is happening in a bar in Malaga, in Spain. So

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Speaker 2: this guy burst in here was wearing a motorcycle helmet's

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Speaker 2: her face pretty much covered, and he had a machete

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Speaker 2: in his hand, and then later on he pulled out

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Speaker 2: a gun as well. He's banging on the counter of

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Speaker 2: the bar demanding money. The bar staff break out into

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Speaker 2: howls of derision. They think it's a practical joke. They

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Speaker 2: think it's either a former barman or maybe a mate

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Speaker 2: or somebody winding them up. What you want the money? Now?

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Speaker 2: Should we call the police? They joke. One inspects the

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Speaker 2: machete blade and suggests it was clearly stolen, whilst also

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Speaker 2: identifying that it actually was a real machete. At one

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Speaker 2: stage that the would be thief holds the blade to

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Speaker 2: someone's neck. They're still laughing about it, thinking, oh, this

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Speaker 2: is all very funny. God. It's only after he left,

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Speaker 2: after the thief left confused and empty handed, that they

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Speaker 2: clocked actually, that might have been real. The robbery was real.

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Speaker 2: There was no practical joke, and indeed he's struck at

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Speaker 2: many other bars in other parts of Malaga. Do you

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Speaker 2: know what, Sometimes it's better not to know. But laughter

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Speaker 2: can be the best prevention as well as the best cure.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that Cli comes and stick them up and bursts

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Speaker 1: out laughing. I mean, you know, crime doesn't pay, but

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Speaker 1: that's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Don't try that at home, though, because you might not

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Speaker 2: go muite so well exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's Adam goldcrist and the worldview