1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Right, but that we step into the garden. And I 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: was about to say, call us if you have a 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: gardening question. We're not quite sure whether the incoming calls 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: are working it, but give it a try, and if 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: you can't get through, please default to our WhatsApp line 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: O seven two five six seven one five six seven. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: Because Charisse Fillyun is with us in studio of Cherish 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: Plants Fame. She of course has a master's degree in 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: haughty culture and she is standing by to answer your 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: gardening questions as well as to give us feedback on 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: the unforeseen question that came up last week or last 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: time around Dussies in gardens. First though, Charisse, always great 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: to have you with us. 14 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back, thank you, and what a lovely cool day 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: compared to the last time I was here. 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Yes, last time you were here it was about forty 17 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: something degrees. You're now in the freezer of a studio 18 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: which is about ten degrees. And hopefully next time we'll 19 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: be somewhere in the middle. Thanks for joining us, Charis. 20 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: Last time you were with us, we received a cry 21 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: for help from a listener who said, the Dussies will 22 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: not leave my garden alone. They are decimating the plants. 23 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: Was it the Strelitzias they were going for? 24 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: In particul It sounded like everything in her garden, everything 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: in her garden, and she sounded pretty desh but it 26 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: was a and so I did some research and I 27 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: immediately went to kind of the Betty's Bay area, the 28 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: Royals area, asked gardens there, and it's horror stories. I've 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: heard Dussies will climb trees to eat foliage in times 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: of drought or lack of food or dryness, so they're 31 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: very tenacious. Also hearing stories. Remember I recommended she planted 32 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: anything thorny. Yes, that doesn't seem to bother me at all, 33 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: but I do have some advice. Okay, one it would 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: be very boring plant palette, but it was to look 35 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: at her locals. I think she was on the West coast, Yes, 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: to look at the local vegetation and see what they 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: are leaving standing. And I imagine that's a lot of 38 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: dune greenery, nothing very interesting for a garden, but at 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: least a survival and she could use those plants as 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: a framework. I imagine a lot of those are actually 41 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: curcia or rooss, which do prune back really well. So 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: you can prune them really hard and they come back, 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: which is great. And then I also thought a groundcover 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: like geranium and karnum is another one that you prune 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: back really hard. So my idea is that dussies will 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: will in the hard times munch, but these are plants 47 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: that will recover from being munch They won't die because 48 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: they've been chumped down. And then it was suggested that 49 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: they would use euphorbias anything with a milky latex because 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: they're toxic. But then I had counter people saying they'll 51 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: eat them anyway if they desperate. 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: This is the one thing I have heard is they've 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: got absolutely cast iron stomachs. They will eat just about 54 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: anything in times of necessity and not react in the 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: way many other creatures would exactly. 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: And then the final one, which was quite lovely, was 57 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: to plant very fragrant, intensely of plants with intense cents, 58 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: so any boohoos they seem to leave the burrhus alone, okay. 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: And then if you're looking at exotics, it would be 60 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: rose and lavenders and times. But still, I you know, 61 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: let's you just hoping for the best for the most part, 62 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: so that it was wonderful I had a fantastic plant 63 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: list journey and interesting stories. I wonder if listeners have 64 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: anything else to share with us. 65 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: If you, if you are gardening in an area where 66 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: dussies are a threat to gardens, what has worked for 67 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: you is the question, send us a what's up and 68 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: tell us if you have found a plant that absolutely 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: will not touch or a plant that bounces back once 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: they have had a nibble. I think that's a second 71 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: tier strategy that that makes a lot of sense. You know, 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: work with them rather than against them, if. 73 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: You must exactly. Someone even said to me, plant extra 74 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: for them. But I don't think they leave anything behind. 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: It sounds out there, really. I mean, I'd never considered 76 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: dussies a threat to gardens, but yeah, I mean, as 77 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: you said, we went down a real I was gonna 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: say a rabbit hole, but a whole rabbit hole. They 79 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: and you know, they eat grass, they eat leaves, they 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: will eat bark and twigs if they are drawn. You know, 81 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: in the times of necessity, they will eat the plants 82 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: that other animals find toxics. So work with them rather 83 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: than against them, I guess, is what we're saying. Having 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: said that, if anybody else listening has a solution that 85 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: has really worked in your garden. Please do send a 86 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: WhatsApp thanks for the research there. Now, Liz says, not dussies, 87 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: but we have a simply enormous mole in our garden 88 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: for the first time in twenty years. One of the 89 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: mounds the other evening was fifty centimeters high. What do 90 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: I do? I would rather discourage than kill. But this 91 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: is not one of the cute little runner moles. It's 92 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: one of the huge gray ones that looks like it's 93 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: big enough to take a Fingle's comment, what advice forulness? 94 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: So those are mole rats, and she's quite right. The 95 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: golden mole is the protected one, the little runner, and 96 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: although that can be very unpsyched at times, they eat insects. 97 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: They're great for the garden. This guy is a real pesky, 98 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: pesky one. You know. He makes mountains here. This is 99 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: where making a mountain of a mole hill is actually true. 100 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 2: This is baby mountains of sand in yourself. And he 101 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: eats plant roots and bulbs and whatnot. So I tend 102 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: to to scrape that swirl off. There's quite a lot. 103 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: You could fill an entire pot of it. Sometimes I 104 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: redistributed across the garden, and I do do the thing 105 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: where I stick the hosepipe down to discourage them. I 106 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: keep interfering with their molehills that they're making, because actually 107 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: I don't mind if they run their tunnels as much 108 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: as I just don't want them bringing up these mountains 109 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: of sand. But otherwise it is seasonal. They will disappear. 110 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: If you have dogs, you'll find they move pretty quickly. 111 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: If you don't, then you find you just have to 112 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: put up with this after a while. I never like killing, 113 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: so I'm the worst person to ask. 114 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that are there are devices that 115 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: make a little sort of a drumming sound on the 116 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: soil to drive them away. You get sprays and smell 117 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: quite strongly of garlic and onion and things like that 118 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: people swear by. 119 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Into self entertainment. You can try all of that and 120 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: watch it fail. Really, these guys are a little bit 121 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: like the Harras the dussy. They're like a bit immune 122 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: to all of that. They are going where they're going, 123 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: and they're gonna move whatever's in their way out of 124 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: their way. So you know, some people say at work, 125 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: I've not seen it work. That's the kind of thing 126 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: where I've actually laughed my head off because they had 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: one of those mole spinner things in the mole hill. 128 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: It literally uprooted it and it was super side. 129 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's I'm sitting him imagining the movie Dune. 130 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: And if you have seen tunea No Dune, those thumpers 131 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: that they set on the sand to call the big worms. 132 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: I was thinking one of those maybe going consistently to 133 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: drive them away. 134 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: For sure, that might drive them crazy, but it might 135 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: also drive you. 136 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So Liz, I'm sorry. We can't be more helpful 137 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: than that, other than to suggest that perhaps if you 138 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: have a friend or neighbor who has a jack Russell, 139 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: it might be a good time to invite them around 140 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: for a briy. She says, we do have very curious cats. 141 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if a cat would go round, I would 142 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: go after a all. 143 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: I think a cat would observe them with that look 144 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: where they like, can I take you? Or are you 145 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: too big for me? So I just tap you a 146 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: little bit and see what happens. I don't think they'll 147 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: actually effectively do anything. 148 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 1: This has sent me a photograph of a cat lying 149 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: on the Lord looking at the big sandy mole holes. 150 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: So there we go. Let's put that strategy to rest. 151 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: But she says, okay, thank you for the for the feedback, 152 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: some dusty feedback. Yes, Lauris says, put mesh around your 153 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: trees to stop the dussies from eating the bottom bark 154 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: of them. So that is really great. Something like chicken wire, yes. 155 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, anything like that, a real wire cage. I mean, 156 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: when we had the porcupines eating the bulbs at Curst 157 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: and Marsh, we would actually plant them in wire mesh, 158 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: self made, self created chicken wire mesh that we would 159 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: then drop into the ground. Doesn't last forever, but it 160 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: definitely helps deter and then the bulbs could push up 161 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: through that and it stopped the porcupines from decimating certain 162 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: bulbs in the garden. So that is a great strategy. 163 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: Thank you. That's very helpful. 164 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: Thanks Floris. Although having been told that the dussies climb 165 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: trees to get to foliage, I'm wondering if those little 166 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: claws would simply use does the ladder over the mesh, 167 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: But okay, maybe give it a try, Floris. Thank you. Now, 168 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: never mind dussies. Irene actually would like to keep cats 169 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: out of her garden and wonders if you have any 170 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: strategies for that. 171 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: No, really, they will. Again, this is a terrible session. 172 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: I have no help and no advice. Again, the dogs 173 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: are incredible, incredibly helpful, especially small hunting dogs like Jack 174 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: Russell's or dashuns or just very angry chihuahuas. Otherwise cats, 175 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: it's extremely difficult to keep them out. And also they 176 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: night prowlers, so at any time, I mean, if you 177 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: do spot them, definitely turn water on them. If you 178 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: hose them, they don't like it, and make it as 179 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: unpleasant as possible, clap your hands, keep chasing them. But 180 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you have a life to live, 181 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: and it's very very tough foricult. If you the garden 182 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: in the neighborhood that doesn't have the dogs, then the 183 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: neighborhood cats come and visit and use you as a 184 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: depository for what they are excreeting. 185 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, so that we can't be more helpful than that, 186 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: but there we go. I'm happy to tell you the 187 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: phone lines are back. Yeah, so you can call us 188 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: on two one four four six five six seven if 189 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: you have a gardening question. You're also welcome to continue 190 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: sending WhatsApps to seven two five six seven one five 191 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: six seven. Anna has had an interesting year with her hydrangers, 192 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: she tells me. She says they did their usual blooming 193 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: in December through February, all as expected, but she said 194 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: they then had a second wave quite late into the 195 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: season after the end of February, and she says she's 196 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: wondering if they've been confused by the particularly hot weather 197 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: that we had or what could be happening, because she 198 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: still has hydrangers with budding flys. 199 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: She's absolutely right, they are completely confused by this really 200 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: really warm weather in which a lot of us are 201 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: watering more than we usually would at this time of 202 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: year with the cooling weather. And if you haven't, you 203 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: should be looking at your irrigation systems starting to just 204 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: ease off a little bit on how often you're watering 205 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: or how long you're watering for, just start reducing it 206 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: a little bit. And at the hydrangers, I just think, well, 207 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: here we go again, Christmas all over again, heat and 208 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: some moisture. Just leave them. Really, they will sort themselves out. There, 209 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: will realize in time that they've made a mistake, and 210 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: they'll either finish the flower or they'll drop the flour 211 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: and if you're enjoying it, will then cut off all 212 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: the spent flower heads so that the plant can focus 213 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: on finishing what it started, and you get a second flash. 214 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: It's quite quite joyous, a positive from its. 215 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Very lovely problem to have to have extra hygiene of flowers. 216 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: So enjoy them, Anna, But thanks for explaining the reason 217 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: why they are behaving atypically, shall we say? Thank you? 218 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,479 Speaker 1: Roy just called in the background to say, apparently citronella 219 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: oil is a good deterrent for cats. If you put 220 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: some of that diluted in a spray bottle, and as 221 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: you say, if you spot one, spray them. They apparently 222 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: do not like the smell of it at all. That's 223 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: not just water, but water with a bit of citronella 224 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: oil in it. Roy, thank you. I mean, citronella oil 225 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: is supposed to keep the mosquitoes aware, but if it 226 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: does doubles duty and absolutely other unwanted visitors, then all 227 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: for it, Thanks. 228 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: You, And it would be great against mealy bag scale 229 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: and effort. So if you want to just give your 230 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: garden a blanket spray of citronella oil, not too much 231 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: that it burns, follow good dilution, and usually that when 232 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: it comes to canola or sunflower oil, it's not as concentrated, 233 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: but you would be putting about ten miles in five 234 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: liters of water. So maybe just put five miles in 235 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: ten liters of water and spray everything. Hopefully that'll help 236 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: the cats. And if you want to add some chili 237 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: powder in there, add some garlic in there. Let's go 238 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: all out and see if it works. 239 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: To smell deters. Yeah, I mean the bonus of the 240 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: citronella oil is that the smell is generally pleasant for humans, 241 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: even if the cats don't like it. Once you start 242 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: adding in the garlic and other things, will we be 243 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: wanting to spit time? And I have to ask, so okay, 244 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: Roy appreciate the feedback. We've also got a voice note 245 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: in from Marius, who I think has some experience with 246 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: the mole issue. Let's take a listen. 247 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: I go bum Marius, some as it wet. I used 248 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: to stay in Lolnden where there was huge amount of mol. 249 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: You take just any stick and drive it into the 250 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: ground for about a foot foot and a half and 251 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: take a two little tag bottle and just put it 252 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: over the sticks, and that if the wind blows, that 253 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: makes a little bit of a noise and that keeps 254 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 3: the molds away. 255 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad that worked for him. And to cut 256 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: the two little flaps in the coke bottle so you 257 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: create two little wings so that it. 258 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: Really rattles, as long as it doesn't drive you nuts 259 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: in the process. Okay, thank you, Thank you very much, Marius. 260 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, boy, I saw you nodding when you said milneton. 261 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: It is one of the areas where this is a 262 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: big problem, so Marius appreciate that feedback. Valerie also has 263 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: a noise associated solution for the cats. She says, I 264 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: bang two empty soda water bottles together. It makes a 265 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: big noise and does scare them. They won't come back 266 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: in her experience. 267 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: Fantastic advice. I'm really glad that listeners are phoning it 268 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: to help because I'm super and I'm taking copious notes 269 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: and the next time I'm asked, I've got all these answers. 270 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: This is really great feedback. Thanks everyone for helping, and 271 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: the nice coming out. 272 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: The nice thing is it's scaring them away, not harming 273 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: them in the process, which is obviously the wind winden 274 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: solution That we're looking for. Mandy also recommends a sprinkling 275 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: of Jay's fluid. She says, apparently just a couple of 276 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: drops around the place. The cats do not like that 277 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: smell either, so that's one to consider. Yeah, I mean, 278 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: for those who love cats, then don't do these things. 279 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: Encourage them and welcome them and pet them and treat 280 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: them as the royalty that they are. But some people 281 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: do not want them in their garden, don't want to 282 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: deal with the mess they leave, might be allergic to cats, 283 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: or whatever the reason they be. And these are non toxic, 284 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: non invasive strategies we're looking for to discourage them and 285 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: rather encourage them to go and find your gardens where 286 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: they will be welcome. Thank you, we've got another voice. 287 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Note boy, didn't see this one coming. It's a different 288 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: kind of pest, I think from any question we've had before. 289 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: Hi, I've been trying for so many years to get 290 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 4: rid of snot nosed evils which capitate and then kill 291 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: my plants from the inside. That's always the pretty plants, 292 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: the ones with the beautiful flowers. One of the one 293 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 4: summer they killed my eight year old bonzeie tree as well. 294 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 4: I'm tired every natural and poisonous product on them, and 295 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 4: nothing seems to work. Does your guests have any ideas 296 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: for me? Please? 297 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 5: This is joy in pret so the humor joy is 298 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 5: that your your the the autocorrect captured your messages being 299 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 5: about weasels. We've never had a question about weasels before, 300 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: but smart nosed weevils, the little bugs. 301 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: I assume there is doing a bit of research in 302 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: the background there. It just to add to what she's 303 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: about to tell us a response to your message. 304 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: So I would revert in this case, by the way, 305 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: my research was useless. I have to use my brain, 306 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: which is fine. I would use the name oil to help. 307 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: But it's almost like you have to keep the plants 308 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: coated so that they have to choose through that neme oil, 309 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: and the nem oil would also have to target them, 310 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: so you would like almost need to catch them in action, 311 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: and generally they would be busy in the heat of 312 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: the day, anything from tental about two, they'll be quite active. 313 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: And it's really just one of those awful problems because 314 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: they're really little and they're not as easy to catch 315 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: as the tipwaters, which at least you see and you 316 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: can do something about so the application of nem oil 317 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: is recommended, but the success of it would be in 318 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: the repeat applications and targeting both the foliage that they like, 319 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: the flowers and the bugs themselves. 320 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's quite a big job, but Joy, I 321 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: hope that will work for you. Thank you for your voice. 322 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: Note what DoD you have said. If the question was 323 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: about weasels, charis fail and willers were another few minutes. 324 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: If you want to ask a question on the WhatsApp 325 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: line O seven two five six seven one five six 326 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: seven days would like some pointers on growing azaleas das. 327 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: Do you know what I love to do with them? 328 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: Is? 329 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: It is that constant and pruning once they are finished flowering, 330 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: they rarely encourage new growth on the plants, and if 331 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: you don't do it, they tend to lose their life 332 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: energy over time. So keep on the annual pruning. But 333 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: collection of pine needles, which often wherever a pine tree 334 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: is growing, they often collect in the road in the gutter, 335 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: so you'll be helping with the storm water issues. And 336 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: I scooch up a whole bagful or whole crateful or 337 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: a whole armful of pine needles, and I go home, 338 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: and I pack that around the roots of the azaleas, 339 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: and careful not to pack it too close against the 340 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: main stem. You don't want to cause rot. But they 341 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: leach a little bit of acidity into the soil. And 342 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: azaleas are also like ericas and some other plants. They 343 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: have relationships with fungi in the soil, and their fungi 344 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: are quite similar to a pine needle or pine treese 345 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: fungi and feeding they are. They flower heavily and our 346 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: soils are a bit poor for them. So if you're 347 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: growing in them in a sandier area of South Africa, 348 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: make sure you do that regular compost and regular feed 349 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: as they start to shoot their buds in spring and 350 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: before they start to shed their leaves and flowers at 351 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: the end of summer. So you kind of get them 352 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: to store up preserves before they go to sleep, and 353 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: then you support them as they wake up again. 354 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: Okay, lovely, thank you dez enjoy them and what a 355 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: lovely way to finish with a message in from Pam, 356 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: whose dusty problem started the show. She has been listening 357 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: with great interestponse to say thank you for the research 358 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: and advice. She is off to the local nursery to 359 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: try and find some of the ideas that you've shared. 360 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: She says. These little critters have eaten all the leaves 361 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: off my orange tree, my fig tree this year, even 362 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: my boganvillia. I've learnt that very sawny barriers help the 363 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: garden doesn't look very pretty, but at least it does 364 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: keep some of them out. But thank you very much 365 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: from Pam and Pam Well, thank you for raising an 366 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: issue which clearly more than just Pam has to contend 367 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: within the garden, judging by the response on our WhatsApp line. 368 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: Lovely to have you where us and thank the research. 369 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: It was great in pandas are all his sproutas they'll 370 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: come back. 371 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: That's the good news on which to finish the segment. 372 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: Jes we'll chat again next month. 373 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: Thank you Papa.