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Speaker 1: Although our first interview is about a stage production, I

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Speaker 2: Hi, do you remember me?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry I was in here yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't wait on me.

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Speaker 1: Oh you were a con commission right.

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Speaker 2: Ah, yes, big mistake, Big cute. I have to go

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Speaker 1: Absolutely iconic scene that from an iconic nineties movie. It is,

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Speaker 1: of course pretty Woman. That was Julia Roberts in the

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Speaker 1: lead role a story a film, a role that has

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Speaker 1: outlived it's fifteen minutes of fame to a factor of

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Speaker 1: one hundred plus. And very soon we're going to get

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Speaker 1: to see a new variation of that role on stage

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Speaker 1: because the musical theater adaptation of Pretty Women opens in

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Speaker 1: For those who don't know the background to the existence

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Speaker 1: was written by rock legend Brian Adams, who I think

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Speaker 1: and they have bought the music elements of the show.

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Speaker 1: But of course it is the people who step into

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Speaker 1: the famous roles of Vivian and I've gone blank for

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Speaker 1: it's great both of you back in studio, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Cape Talk watching it and they are taking on

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Speaker 1: the roles of Vivian Ward and Edward Lewis in the

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're still only twenty four years old. I

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Speaker 1: strikes me those are roles Obviously that are iconic women

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Speaker 1: what made you want to play her? And what did

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Just going back to your first question,

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Speaker 2: what was it like? I mean, is what makes me

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Speaker 2: was this I was completely drawn to Vivian. I love

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's the film that we know in love, just bigger, bolder,

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, Okay, Chris, I mean glad to see the

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So the thing is every actor that's going to

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Speaker 1: Okay, Leah. I mean speaking of the spectacle, you guys

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Speaker 1: Opening night is the eighteenth of March, that's tomorrow. You've

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank for sure all the best