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Speaker 1: It was seven oh two Weekend Breakfast Food with Doctor

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Speaker 2: At seventeen minutes before eight o'clock. Welcome back to seven

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Speaker 2: oh two week in Breakfast with me corks in Trogum,

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Speaker 2: Time to talk food, and today we're talking about a

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Speaker 2: symbol of Easter that you cannot miss. It is everywhere

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Speaker 2: Easter eggs and bunnies, which I always thought was quite

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Speaker 2: interesting because well, I the latter part of my childhood

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Speaker 2: I chose to be Catholic. If I remember correctly, there

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Speaker 2: were no bunnies, there were no eggs. There was the

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Speaker 2: Stations of the Cross. So I've always wondered how Easter

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Speaker 2: eggs and bunnies ended up as a symbol of Easter.

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Speaker 2: And so this morning Doctor Torpedo did some slew thing

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Speaker 2: for us to find the history of Easter eggs. And

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Speaker 2: so joining us down the line is our resident chef

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Speaker 2: and food anthropologist, Doctor Anna Trepedo, Dr Trpedo, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Hey, miss Gogs, Happy Saturday, Happy.

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Speaker 2: Easter, Happy Saturday, and happy Easter. Thinking about you this week.

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Speaker 2: Because you don't like eggs, you also don't like milk, right,

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Speaker 2: Milk isn't one of your favorite things?

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Speaker 1: You know? I will always drink coffee black. You know

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Speaker 1: that that I'll happily eat a pancake, right, And I'll

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Speaker 1: happily eat an egg in a cake. But the of

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Speaker 1: a boiled egg and soldiers doesn't appeal.

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Speaker 2: So you're dislike of eggs. Does that extend to Easter eggs?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Are those okay?

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Speaker 1: You know I don't mind chocolate eggs. I'm very partial

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Speaker 1: yeah that I if you know, I'm not very good

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Speaker 1: at breakfast menus, for instance, because they're nearly all eggs

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Speaker 1: that you will never find me in an omelet being friends.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter which animal have comes from. So

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Speaker 2: it's whether it's a duck or goose or a chicken, as.

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Speaker 1: Long as it's bird it comes from. As I say,

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Speaker 1: I am perfectly happy to I like caviat so if

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Speaker 1: But I don't like bird eggs. And I am completely

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Speaker 1: aware that this is a kind of weirdness of mine,

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Speaker 1: and that yeah, I'm sort of sounding as I'm proud

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Speaker 2: We all have our weird things, and you know what,

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Speaker 2: it's okay, So Easter time, you know Easter is coming

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Speaker 2: because suddenly there's chocolate eggs out there. Chocolate bunnies, very

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Speaker 2: little bunds or hot cross bans are a big part

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Speaker 2: of the Easter holiday. And I've always wondered what eggs

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Speaker 2: and bunnies have to do with I guess the Holy

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Speaker 2: Time in the Christian calendar. Is there a bit in

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Speaker 1: Where the east of bunny is that the Mother of

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Speaker 1: Christ is visited by foil covered rabbits. No, that I

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Speaker 1: mean Easter is, you know, within the Christian calendar, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the slash the most significant you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's because they're much older than the story of

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Speaker 1: And again we have to remember that Easter starts off

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Speaker 1: as a Northern Hemisphere event, so you know, in the

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Speaker 1: Northern Hemisphere, Easter coincides with spring. So there's been this long, hard, dark,

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Speaker 1: That there are you know, green shoots and eggs and

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Speaker 1: So all over the Aostra ceremonies you see eggs, and

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Speaker 1: So that symbol, the egg symbol is about rebirth and resurrection.

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Speaker 1: an egg is about new life, and new life is

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Speaker 1: the resurrection. And sometimes those early missionaries they say that

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Speaker 1: the eggshell symbolizes Christ's empty tomb. That sometimes there are

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Speaker 1: And then obviously there's all the lent fastings, so you

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, so I get that, But then when do

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Speaker 2: When do they become chocolate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's a big part of amount of chocolate.

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Speaker 1: Nobody in well, anywhay, chocolate kakawa comes from the Americas.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the many kind of fabulous, delicious things

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Speaker 1: she has the idea to fill chickens eggs, empty chickens

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Speaker 1: So that's the first eggs as we know it. And

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Speaker 1: because the chocolate is thinner, they're more affordable.

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Speaker 2: Right. And so then if I am someone who loves

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Speaker 2: an egg, an Easter egg, where can I find really

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Speaker 2: good ones in seven oh two Land? Well?

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Speaker 1: Can I actually quite hard that? Yeah, I've been looking

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Speaker 1: beautiful artisan chocolate eggs made by the Chocolate Ears, who

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Speaker 1: like half eggs filled with truffles and that's one hundred

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Speaker 2: Oh, rabbits yummy. As you know, I eat exactly three meats,

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Speaker 2: only eat beef, pork, and but grudgingly I eat chicken,

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Speaker 2: and I don't like the taste of chicken, so it's

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Speaker 2: in there for other reasons. So I've never had rabbits.

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Speaker 2: I've never had game, so I'm wondering what a rabbit

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Speaker 1: of look as though like maybe it was a skinned cat. Oh,

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Speaker 1: so cooking them is a bit distressing because they're they're odd.

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Speaker 1: But you know, all meat is murder, isn't it. So

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Speaker 1: you know, true eating a dead rabbit is no more

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Speaker 2: Right, before we run out of time, I do want

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Speaker 2: to read some messages that have come through, specifically for you,

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Speaker 2: doctor follow and Mohuna in Midstream says Higgs and doctor Anna,

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Speaker 2: thank you for a well researched and delicious treat Another

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Speaker 2: message on what is good warning gogs and the doctor.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to thank doctor Torpedo for giving us an

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Speaker 2: in debt explanation on the history of Easter. As a Christian,

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Speaker 2: I always thought the Easter eggs was a so called

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Speaker 2: right wing agenda to diverge Christianity to religion.

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Speaker 1: So to speak.

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Speaker 2: However, I am grateful for the understanding. Well thanks, that's

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Speaker 2: for anonymous on WhatsApp.

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Speaker 1: And I do think that, you know, if people want

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Speaker 1: a symbol of resurrection and rebirth, that that's not a

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Speaker 1: bad thing. You know. The other day I saw someone

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Speaker 1: having a tantrum in Clicks because the Easter eggs said

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Speaker 1: they were hellal on the side, and I thought, you

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Speaker 1: tantrum about how dare they be Hello? And I thought

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Speaker 1: that they're so much older than Christianity. You know that

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Speaker 1: that just you know, chill and say.

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Speaker 2: And just enjoy these.

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Speaker 1: Either it works for me as a symbol of resurrection

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Speaker 1: or it doesn't. And if it doesn't, then I do

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Speaker 1: different things to celebrate this kind of beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Need to leave it at that, Doctor Torpedo, Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: do need to leave it at that. We are out

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Speaker 2: of time. Thank you very much for your time that

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