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Speaker 1: Car Talk with Melinda Ferguson on Weekend Breakfast with Sarah

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Speaker 1: Jane mcquali, King, you're listening.

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Speaker 2: To Weekend Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: It is time for Car Talk with Melinda, and we're

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Speaker 3: doing you a bit of a two for a bit

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Speaker 3: of a two for one today. We hope we're going

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Speaker 3: to start with the Reno Triber Turbo and then if

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Speaker 3: we've got time, we will also have a look at

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Speaker 3: the Suzuki across Melinda.

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Speaker 2: Hello, good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, nice hairstyle. Oh I can see you.

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Speaker 5: You can say yes, because yeah, I'm in my gown

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Speaker 5: and I haven't combed my hair, so you definitely aren't

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Speaker 5: seeing me.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 3: That's so funny, right, Okay, So the Reno Triber Turbo.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we did the Reno.

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Speaker 5: Taiger Tiger, Tiger, don't say triber. What is the tiger? Oh,

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Speaker 5: it's the yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh, because somebody told me we were doing the Triber.

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Speaker 3: You said, Triber, let's start with the chima.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: But listen, I've made a big mistake, and I have

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Speaker 5: to say I think a lot. Well, I made a

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Speaker 5: mistake because it was the tiger, but the Triba is

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Speaker 5: also in and often I.

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Speaker 4: Go the trib the Kaiger. Which one is? Which? Which

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Speaker 4: one is? Which?

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Speaker 5: The driver is actually that seven seater? Really sorry, my

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Speaker 5: finger wrote the wrong.

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Speaker 4: It is the Tiger, Okay, It is the Kaiger.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So the Kiger is the one that we see all

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Speaker 3: over the place. I see it all over the place,

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Speaker 3: the little kind of compact suv, which has done terribly well.

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Speaker 3: It seems I'm saying it's done terribly well. I'm only

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Speaker 3: saying that because I seem to see it everywhere.

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Speaker 2: The Turbo.

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Speaker 3: Okay, go remind me, find me what we're Remind me

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Speaker 3: what we're looking at in terms of competition or class.

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Speaker 2: What else is in is in the same class.

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Speaker 5: You're so clever because you switched so quickly there. It

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Speaker 5: was quite unbelievable. So what we are looking at in

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Speaker 5: terms of rivals, Look, this is that really heavily populated segment.

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Speaker 5: And it's no mistake that you see a lot of

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Speaker 5: them because a lot of people buying this segment. It's

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Speaker 5: kind of the sort of budgety crossover suv. You're seeing

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Speaker 5: things like the Nis and Magnet, which is almost I

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Speaker 5: would say, besides what it looks like the same car

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Speaker 5: as the Reno Kaiger, the Mahendra XUV three x zero,

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Speaker 5: lovely car, lovely little car that can go on the

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Speaker 5: dust roads very well. Then of course the Cherry Tigo

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Speaker 5: four Pro does really well, and the Suzuki Francs, the

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Speaker 5: Toyota Starlet Cross and the Kia Sonnet. I mean, we

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Speaker 5: could go on and on, but these are.

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Speaker 4: The kind of rivals.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right?

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Speaker 3: And then the when did it come out?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you why I ask, because I'm I remember.

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Speaker 2: It came out after the capture, didn't it?

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Speaker 3: Because the capture everyone seemed to in a capture, and

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Speaker 3: then the kinda came out, and it seems I don't

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Speaker 3: know if I'd be correct in saying this, but it

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Speaker 3: seems to have usurped it somewhat.

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Speaker 5: Oh, definitely, there is the capture is definitely around, but

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Speaker 5: the Kaya is definitely the one that people I think

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Speaker 5: are finding more easy on their wallets. And which is

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Speaker 5: why it's nice to be doing a really affordable car

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Speaker 5: today because we have been doing these million rand numbers.

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Speaker 4: It's very interesting.

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Speaker 5: So the idea was birthed when Reno Nissan was still

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Speaker 5: they were partners for a long time and they saw

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Speaker 5: the value in creating a cheaper hatchback suv with hatchback

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Speaker 5: money basically, and so they saw that the dust had

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Speaker 5: aged a bit. There was a quid, but the quid

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Speaker 5: was like in a really hatchy kind of cheaper thing,

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Speaker 5: and they thought of let's build something cheap quick and

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Speaker 5: go global, and which is what they did. But they

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Speaker 5: brought it out as a concept in twenty twenty and basically, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean in South Africa. It has sold since probably

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Speaker 5: late March, around March twenty twenty one. It is very

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Speaker 5: they've brought in a bit of a turbo so that

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Speaker 5: the engine will give you a little bit moremph because

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Speaker 5: let's face it, that one liter naturally aspirated is not

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Speaker 2: That is why.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, I've always kind of been a little

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Speaker 3: bit underwhelmed by the Kaiger.

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Speaker 4: Letten.

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Speaker 5: The segment is a little bit underwhelming engine wise. Then

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Speaker 5: it's not a girl racer. It's not even like I

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Speaker 5: don't even think you're a girl racer, but a mama,

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Speaker 5: a mama who wants to put who wants to put?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that issue that is, That's exactly it. It just

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Speaker 2: I get it. I mean, there's no need for these

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Speaker 3: But yes, I'm a mama bear, but I'm also a

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Speaker 3: mama bear that likes to drive quite fast.

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Speaker 2: You know, I shouldn't say that it's got a bit

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Speaker 2: of a growl. Yeah, that's exactly it. That's exactly it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So literally this is just engine that's been Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about this engine.

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Speaker 5: So in November, which I wasn't able to attend last year,

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Speaker 5: they brought in the very basic fifty three kilowatt ninety

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Speaker 5: six newton meters one liter straight three cylinder, naturally aspirated

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Speaker 5: And now they have the same one liter engine, but

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Speaker 5: it's now got turbo charge and it's gone up to

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Speaker 5: seventy four kilowatts. So instead of having that like really

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Speaker 5: You get a CBT gearbox, you get a five speed manual,

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Speaker 5: and basically there are like these different trims as well.

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Speaker 5: There's a techno, the MIDSPEC techno it's got kind of

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Speaker 5: very a lot more range topping spec. Look, we took

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Speaker 5: a drive, it really did feel pretty much more powerful.

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Speaker 5: It's almost double the power of that entry level one,

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Speaker 5: so I say, and we only had CBT gearboxes, not

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Speaker 5: much lag. I was quite impressed with that CBT because

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Speaker 5: it's not my favorite. I always slag them off, and

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Speaker 5: it did its job. And definitely that turbo, I would

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Speaker 5: not even go near that naturally aspirated, sorry, Reno, I

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Speaker 5: would definitely go the turbo.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's funny you say, you know, we're doing it

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Speaker 3: a slightly more affordable, and I'm so glad that we are,

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Speaker 3: because not, you know.

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Speaker 2: We're not.

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Speaker 3: Not everyone can afford two million round for a car,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: But also, this segment.

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Speaker 3: Is my It was going to say it's my least favorite.

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Speaker 3: That's not true actually because I can't really I don't

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Speaker 3: is a segment that it doesn't excite me. There's there's

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Speaker 3: not been a car in this segment that I've been

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Speaker 3: necessarily excited about, and yet it's exactly in my price range,

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Speaker 3: so I should probably be I probably should be a

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Speaker 3: little bit a little bit, a little bit more excited

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Speaker 2: I suppose, really melt.

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Speaker 3: What what people are really going to want to know

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Speaker 3: is if it with it being in such a saturated segment,

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Speaker 3: is this any better than or why should I get

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Speaker 3: this over the other cars that you mentioned, the Kia Sonnet,

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Speaker 3: the Cherry Tiger, Cherry Core, Like, what is this bringing

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Speaker 3: the party that perhaps? And does it just come down

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Speaker 3: to something as simple as price.

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Speaker 5: I think it's got a lot to do the price.

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Speaker 5: But I also think that Renault's clever in that it

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Speaker 5: the Parisian flair, the Renna is still producing really good

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Speaker 5: looking cars. This car is very lovely to look at

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Speaker 5: and inside, I mean for the price that you're paying.

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Speaker 5: I found the tech to be really good. I found

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Speaker 5: it to be reliable. There was a sense of quality

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Speaker 5: So I do think it's about brand loyalty. If you

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Speaker 5: like a ker, you're going to go for the Sonnet

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Speaker 5: if you like a Reno. And Reno has really revised

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Speaker 5: their bad reputation that they once had. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: don't even you know, people are not scared of buying

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Speaker 5: Reno in South Africa anymore.

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Speaker 3: True, true, if that's I was having a conversation with

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Speaker 3: somebody the other day about French cars and they were like, well,

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Speaker 3: of course it's a French car.

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Speaker 2: So and that's you know, whereas before it used Topek,

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Speaker 2: it's a didn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So they've been a huge and that's had heads

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Speaker 5: off to Reno South Africa for putting their dealerships in

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Speaker 5: such good places, for actually having parts that are affordable,

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Speaker 5: none of the old you know, complaints and mods.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Should we get to price, because then we will have

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Speaker 4: time to do this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, we'll have six minutes to do Suzuki. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I do want to guess.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna it's got to be under three hundred thousand.

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Speaker 3: I would think in this segment it's a Reno. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to say two.

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Speaker 2: Two eighty five. I think I might be a bit low.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're very good at the entry level one, the

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Speaker 5: turbo in Techno trim is two seventy eight nine nine nine.

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Speaker 5: Then you've got the mid range Iconic two nine eight

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Speaker 5: nine nine nine, and then that's manual, okay, manual, and

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Speaker 5: then the CBT quip model is the three twenty nine

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Speaker 5: nine nine but really good prime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good pricing, good pricing. Okay, there we go. I'm

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Speaker 2: intrigued by the Suzuki Across go yes.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, listen, it's quite an incredible car. I'm

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Speaker 5: not going to go into its long history. People who

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Speaker 5: the rebadged rav. Just to make this clear, in some

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Speaker 5: years in the European markets across a lot it does

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Speaker 5: not that rebadged a Toyota Rav. It is a all

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Speaker 5: new kind of Suzuki Across a Maruti Suzuki India product

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Speaker 5: made in India.

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Speaker 4: What's really cool about this car? Listener, it looks gorgeous.

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Speaker 5: It's very Grand Vitara kind of competitor, which is in

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Speaker 5: the Suzuki stable. And we're all going, is this not

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Speaker 5: going to replace the Vitara, the Grand Vitara, because the Gravitara. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think they've come in with this brand new name

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Speaker 5: across it's got hybrid tech, mild hybrid tech, mild hybrid.

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Speaker 5: It's also it's a one point five liter, so it's

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Speaker 5: not like that one liter Reno, but it's a very

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Speaker 5: usual kind of engine that's used across this kind of range.

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Speaker 5: The rivals also use this one point five liter four

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Speaker 5: cylinder naturally aspirated petrol engine. It would be nice if

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Speaker 5: there was a bit of turbo, but there isn't.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's bragging about five point three liters to

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Speaker 5: fipple fuel consumption, which is really good. We got about

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Speaker 5: six point four, but we were revving it. You want

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Speaker 4: Rivals, would you like the rivals?

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's go the Nis and Magnet, which is now

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Speaker 5: and there's an OWL four that would also be fighting

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Speaker 2: Now, which Jaiku did you say the five, the J five, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was impressed. Yeah, very stable.

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to do really well. I have

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Speaker 5: You have got adaptive cruise control, land keeper says, land

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Speaker 3: It really does look like both the RAV four and

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Speaker 2: Six ninety.

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Speaker 4: No man, listen, no, man, you are really wrong.

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Speaker 5: It starts the Suzuki Cross one point five mild hybrid

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Speaker 4: Because it doesn't have a sunroof. Who cares?

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Speaker 5: That is three seventy two nine hundred, and you've got

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Speaker 5: Why have I gone?

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Speaker 4: Actually madness? And Magnet might not be the wrong competitor.

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Speaker 5: the range Suzuki. But these prices are incredibly good for

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Speaker 3: I'm stunned by that because I wouldn't have put the

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Speaker 3: JQJ five in that price category.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I look it.

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Speaker 5: So you see there are the jolly on as well.

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Speaker 5: You're to expect these cars to be more. But this

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Speaker 4: It really is. Maybe this is my second to see

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I am that shocked me a bit good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, great, we have to go, mel,

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Indeed, and we'll chat next week.