WEBVTT - Car Talk with Melinda Ferguson: Renault Duster

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<v Speaker 1>Car Talk with Melinda Ferguson on weekend Breakfast with Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Jane mcquali king.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, time now for our regular motoring feature. For

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<v Speaker 2>a Saturday morning, City Press motoring journalist Melinda Ferguson with

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<v Speaker 2>us until just before nine o'clock to give us the

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<v Speaker 2>lowdown on what she's been cruising in this week, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the Renault Duster, which has been given something of

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<v Speaker 2>a face lift.

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<v Speaker 3>Mel Right, No, brand new generation. Oh okay, the whole

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<v Speaker 3>brand new Duster, third generation. Hello Darling, Hello, good morning. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you might hear Joe in the background. He

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<v Speaker 3>spluttered a squirrel. Oh I am in good that is

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<v Speaker 3>what her squirrels are in abundance. Okay, yeah, so this look,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, let's just go back to a bit of history,

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<v Speaker 3>because the Dust is I mean, it's a small compact suv.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been very close to my heart since it launched

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<v Speaker 3>in about twenty ten. I was a really green, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of brand new type of journalist. I'd only started, I

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<v Speaker 3>think the previous year, and it was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>first launches I ever went to. And that was that boxy,

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<v Speaker 3>very unkind of I guess stylish. The first generation but

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<v Speaker 3>it did what it did. It had a real no

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<v Speaker 3>nonsense vibe about it. And I'd be quite interested to

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<v Speaker 3>find out how many of those first generations are still around.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe someone's listening with one of them. It was known

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<v Speaker 3>as the Dassier in Europe, and yeah, it was developed

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<v Speaker 3>by this Romanian arm of Reno called the Dassier, but

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<v Speaker 3>came in as the Dust in South Africa. And in

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<v Speaker 3>the second generation it had quite a sort of makeover

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of what it looked like. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>most amazing things about the first two generation Dusters was

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<v Speaker 3>that it had this turbo diesel engine that went on forever.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember taking it on a long journey and the

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<v Speaker 3>dial never moved. I kept thinking, something's wrong with the gauge.

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<v Speaker 3>The fuel gauge just didn't move. I think I got

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<v Speaker 3>over one thousand kilometers on one tank on that turbo

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<v Speaker 3>diesel Duster. Okay, And I'm talking about it with longing

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<v Speaker 3>because the new one doesn't have a turbo diesel Oh okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well it's the turbo petrol engines.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to those just now.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think one of my sort of longings is

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<v Speaker 3>that I wish they'd been able to have put a

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<v Speaker 3>diesel option end, but with all the emissions regulations, especially

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<v Speaker 3>in Europe, they just aren't in a way allowed to

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<v Speaker 3>make those engines anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just having a bit of a google as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>as I tend to do at these things. And you

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned that the looks of the original Renoduster in

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<v Speaker 2>it being a bit boxy, I'm going to say, and

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<v Speaker 2>no offense to any Renoduster owners out there, it is

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<v Speaker 2>it has historically been, in my mind, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>least attractive and least appealing cars on the road. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's it's always dog doggy people. Doggy people

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<v Speaker 2>have always got a renou Duster. There is nothing, there's

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<v Speaker 2>never been anything sexy about it. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>cars that I've just always looked at and thought in

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<v Speaker 2>a million years, no I know which, which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>Reno is delighted to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but are you looking at that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because the second generation definitely headlust all of their doggie

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<v Speaker 3>no or all of.

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<v Speaker 2>Them never And yet as I look now, as I

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<v Speaker 2>look now now, yeah, definitely a step in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, it's actually damn good looking in the metal flesh

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<v Speaker 3>this new generation. I was like, it came and got

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<v Speaker 3>parked in front of my home and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, it's got a more tanky kind of look.

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<v Speaker 3>More it's got I think, yeah, it's gone more muscular.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in fact not very much bigger than the previous generation,

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<v Speaker 3>but it looks bigger, and it looks more planted, it

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<v Speaker 3>looks more sort of I'm here for some serious business.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also got I think, a pretty attractive edge.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree. I agree with all of that. I agree with

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. And it's a good thing too, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know that the fact that it's a French brand,

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of think, oh, come on, does you know

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<v Speaker 2>where's which has been missing? But now they've they've got it.

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<v Speaker 2>They've they've they've got it, and I am going to

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<v Speaker 2>be interested to see just just talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about what segment this is in. Who's this going up against?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, this is interesting. So it's built on there

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<v Speaker 3>and with this might mean absolutely nothing to everybody. The

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<v Speaker 3>CMFB platform, which is a kind of the compact suv,

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<v Speaker 3>and you'd see immediately you'll know what I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 3>because the Toyota Corolla Cross, which I reviewed last week

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of in that segment, the Cherry Tiko seven Pro,

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<v Speaker 3>the Kiirs Sealtas, the mghs.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd even think of.

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<v Speaker 3>The Ford Ecosport I think is probably like the closest

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<v Speaker 3>in a way rival. The thing is is that they

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<v Speaker 3>might have similar body looks and even engines. But the

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<v Speaker 3>Reno Dusta there is one of the models does have

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<v Speaker 3>four bar four capability.

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<v Speaker 1>Now none of those others do.

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<v Speaker 3>The only other one I would think is maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>could look at as a Jymney, a Suzuki Jimney kind

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<v Speaker 3>of in this price range.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the Jymney wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Be as nice to on open roads, would It would

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<v Speaker 3>definitely beat the Renau Duster having to do insane or

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<v Speaker 3>for road things. So it's kind of almost now in

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<v Speaker 3>a class of its own, this Renau Duster.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm trying to think about other products from Renot.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got the Kiger, which is that very popular crossover,

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<v Speaker 2>that the Quid, which the lesson said about that Quid

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<v Speaker 2>the Quid, and the is it the Triber, the Renault Triber,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And then of course you've got Cleo's and you've got captures.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you've got all of those kinds of the capture.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, the clear and Capture platform. They've used the

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<v Speaker 3>same platform for the Duster.

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<v Speaker 1>Just for a bit of trivia.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that quit I went and looked at some numbers

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<v Speaker 3>before I started the show, and that quit is still

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<v Speaker 3>the best seller for Reno along with the Triber. Is

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<v Speaker 3>it the Tribe or the Kiger? I mean, listen, it's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the two. I always get mixed up. I

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<v Speaker 3>know there's a Nissan. I think it is the Reno Triber.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah, all right? And then inside, what have

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<v Speaker 2>we got going on? Any new tech features, safety features

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<v Speaker 2>that people need to be aware?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that yeah, I think there's quite a lot

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<v Speaker 3>going on inside. Look, it was never the most like

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<v Speaker 3>plush inside ever. No, it always felt quite utilitarian to me.

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<v Speaker 3>So we still have obviously we've got these hard but

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<v Speaker 3>durable plastics, but all of the ones in this segment do.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no like leather and ebony wood in this segment,

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<v Speaker 3>so it feels very sturdy. I felt like there's no

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<v Speaker 3>cheap feeling about it. And the entertainment system has definitely

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<v Speaker 3>gone up quite a few notches, very modern now. It's

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<v Speaker 3>obviously got Apple Car Play, Android Auto two USB sports

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<v Speaker 3>for charging your phone in the front. There is a

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<v Speaker 3>wireless charger, but I did find that my Samsung S

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three Ultra was a little large for it. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think, if you're going to buy one of these,

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<v Speaker 3>check if your phone fits the wireless charger, or actually,

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<v Speaker 3>don't even bother. I'm not mad about wireless charges. They

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<v Speaker 3>never charged fast. As far as I'm so, I would

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<v Speaker 3>not not buy a Duster because my phone didn't fit.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you've also got a kind of seven inch digital

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<v Speaker 3>instrument cluster for the driver, and I found that all

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<v Speaker 3>of the tech very easy to connect. It wasn't you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't difficult. What I rarely loved was the outdoorsy

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<v Speaker 3>kind of feel inside and instead of having carpets, there

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<v Speaker 3>are rather floor mats. And I've just been driving the

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<v Speaker 3>Ranger Trema with the same kind of like very use

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<v Speaker 3>full type of no carpets. You don't have to take

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<v Speaker 3>a car. It's for the people, the dog people and me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I am a dog person. This is my

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<v Speaker 3>dream come true, is to have Joe not making a

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<v Speaker 3>bit big mess on the carpets. Yeah, yeah, you don't,

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<v Speaker 3>You're no longer a dog person, but if you were,

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<v Speaker 3>you might be interested.

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<v Speaker 2>Well maybe I am a child person, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>it's not too dissimilar a thing. Honestly, the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>time I spent, you know, taking milk stains and sour

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<v Speaker 2>milk and biscuit crumbs out of my car, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>rubber rubber mats is exactly what I need.

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<v Speaker 1>Sour milk is my worstful, it's awful.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's go to the boot. I mean you always

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<v Speaker 3>want to know about that, Yeah, yeah, okay, So there

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<v Speaker 3>is a full size spare wheel.

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<v Speaker 1>Great news, and there is.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get to those two types of engines because we

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<v Speaker 3>have actually skipped over that. But in the four bar

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<v Speaker 3>four you've got four hundred and forty four liters and

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<v Speaker 3>in the four by two variant you've got four seventy

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<v Speaker 3>two liters. But if you put the rear seats down

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<v Speaker 3>and squash the kids, you've got one thousand, six hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ninety six liters. So it's a really lovely big

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<v Speaker 3>boots with rear seats down. Should we get to those

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<v Speaker 3>two engines?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure yes. One thing, why are we not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So, as I said, no, turbo diesel. I'm very sad,

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<v Speaker 3>but anyway, it is what it is. We've got two

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<v Speaker 3>turbo petrol engines. There's a one point three liter turbo

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<v Speaker 3>for the four x two that gives one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen kilowatts and two fifteen newton meters of talk, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is two wheel drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And you have got an auto gearbox. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>well I have.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been driving that one, and I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>manual in that as well. But the one for the

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<v Speaker 3>four the four bar four strangely doesn't have an auto gearbox.

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<v Speaker 3>You just get your manual, although that might be quite

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<v Speaker 3>nice to be doing more careful driving. And the one

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<v Speaker 3>point two litera turbo, where the four by four has

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<v Speaker 3>ninety six kilowatts, so slightly less than its other counterpart,

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<v Speaker 3>and two thirty newton meters of talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know that I've sound. I'm not convinced by this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I need to. I think it's about mindset. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've always had such a attitude towards the

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<v Speaker 2>Renaudusta that you could tell me it's got, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a Porsche engine or something, and I probably wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>that impressed, which is terribly unfair because you know.

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<v Speaker 1>This, you know what, Sarah, Yeah, Sarah, yeah, as your

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<v Speaker 1>mother would call you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, me and me and your mom are the only

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<v Speaker 3>people who get to call you Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't think you are crazy about going

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<v Speaker 3>four by four driving and driving on sand dunes and.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking rocks for it. You know you're not. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>more of an urban mom.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't Yeah, you're an urban mother ic or just

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<v Speaker 3>urban mother who needs to take kids around and go,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, on little dates and do whatever you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do in your life. But I think the market, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not the target market.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that for those people that really do

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<v Speaker 3>love taking for me, I'm like very interested in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of taking it out on ruts and muddy, slippery things

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<v Speaker 3>because that's kind of my lifestyle right now. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think the big appeal is that this car it comes

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<v Speaker 3>in having four by four capability and at a price

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<v Speaker 3>point where most all of the other competitors is none

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<v Speaker 3>of them have that. And also I have to just

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<v Speaker 3>add that there is a forty eight volt hybrid assist

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<v Speaker 3>in the four by four version, so you do have

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<v Speaker 3>better fuel consumption even though it's not the diesel. They

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<v Speaker 3>have done something to make that turbopetrol not as hungry

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<v Speaker 3>as it might be without the hybrid tech.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Okay, we need to talk about money, don't we.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean we could have a little insight

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<v Speaker 3>on how it is to drive. I did feel that

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<v Speaker 3>it was very solid, very comfy. There no not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of wind noise, no sort of road noise while

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<v Speaker 3>you're driving.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt well put together.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you put foot in this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I mean it's not look with the with the

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<v Speaker 1>what are the kilowatts?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's not exactly going to be to golf GTR,

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<v Speaker 3>but at one hundred and thirteen kilowatts, and conversely the

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<v Speaker 3>ninety six kilowatts. Luckily is the turbo in there so

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<v Speaker 3>that it doesn't feel laggy. It's not a laggy car.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, did you put Joe in the car?

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<v Speaker 1>I did?

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<v Speaker 2>How did Joe line?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was Joe? I mean, Joe's reviewed more cars.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could get.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe For people who are not regular listeners to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe is not human and therefore is not capable of

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<v Speaker 2>giving any sort of opinion on these cars. Joe is

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<v Speaker 2>Melinda's dog, who goes everywhere with her. Okay, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he was. He was happy in there, jumping in and

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<v Speaker 2>out with his you know, slobber all over rubber matts

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<v Speaker 2>and things. Good.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not a slubberer, he's he is a dirty mud

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<v Speaker 3>poor Yeah. And I do have to tell you that

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<v Speaker 3>that one of the good things is with these cars

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<v Speaker 3>is that you need to have one of those buttons

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<v Speaker 3>that push the windows to lock. It wasn't in the duster,

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<v Speaker 3>but the other day he somehow managed to open the

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<v Speaker 3>window after I'd parked the car.

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<v Speaker 1>And the next thing he was running around really no stop.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was screaming. I thought, why are people screaming?

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<v Speaker 3>And the next thing came bounding the beautiful meat section

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<v Speaker 3>at will Wards and everyone was in total like this

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<v Speaker 3>array because no dog is allowed in Willies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, that is absolutely that's the story. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>been expecting. That's hilarious. But also, I mean, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there's people listening. It's not hilarious, s J. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it is quite funny. I love the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>opened the window himself and was like, I'm coming in right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to go do you want to guess?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do, and I'm not going to be terribly specific,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm just going to go I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 2>on the nose, six hundred thousand round.

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<v Speaker 3>Gez, you can get the Reno Dusta one point three turba,

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<v Speaker 3>the Zen four by two for four eighty nine nine

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good. Christ Hey, you were almost two hundred arms.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the mid range intense the four by two is

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<v Speaker 3>five nineteen nine nine nine, and then the four by four,

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<v Speaker 3>the one I would probably go for is five point

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<v Speaker 3>forty nine nine ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, all right, yeah, so I was over by Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's I mean, I don't know how that

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<v Speaker 2>compares to I mean, you said the chimney, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not really. I mean, it isn't it isn't. Isn't it comparable?

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<v Speaker 3>But it's much more comfortable than the chimney, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you that. And it doesn't have exactly the

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<v Speaker 3>same spider crawling up the mountain nobility. I just always

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<v Speaker 3>think of the chimney as the spider that can like

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<v Speaker 3>crawl up everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just insane what that little car can do. But

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<v Speaker 1>also that jimney comes with the jimney.

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<v Speaker 2>The jimney is trendy, isn't it. I know so many

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<v Speaker 2>sort of young people who are who love the chimney

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, it's like, we're so young and trendy

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<v Speaker 2>in our in our chimney, which is the in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>the exact opposite of the Duster people. But listen, I

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<v Speaker 2>could be wrong. I'd love to see who the which,

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<v Speaker 2>who it is that's going to end up getting on

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<v Speaker 2>board with this new I think that's men.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, honestly, men are more desper orientated than women.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the women would probably like as you saying,

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<v Speaker 3>is like they want to have like this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>stylish little you know, not a car that maybe gets

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<v Speaker 3>associated with dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really even though I.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that because in my mind's eye, when I think

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<v Speaker 2>of Duster owners, it's usually a woman in a k

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<v Speaker 2>Way jacket of about sixty with a couple of labradors.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that, in my mind, is who the Duster drys.

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<v Speaker 2>Barbara's exactly, That's exactly it. I'm thinking of Barbara Woodhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm definitely I think I might be going into

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<v Speaker 3>my Barbara wood stage because I am definitely a target

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<v Speaker 3>market person for this car.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that is so funny. All right, what are we

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<v Speaker 2>giving it out of ten?

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<v Speaker 3>If it had that diesel, I would have given it

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<v Speaker 3>an eight out of ten. But I have to say

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still like tearing up my clothes in grief, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm giving it a good, good seven and a half

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<v Speaker 3>out of ten today.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, seven and a half out of ten for the

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<v Speaker 2>renaut dust up, Mel, thank you very much. Indeed, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>chat to you again next week.