1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Two days of bold ideas, powerful conversations and Proudly Local innovation. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: The fourteenth By Local Summit and Expo live on seven 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: o two. 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: It's twelve minutes before ten o'clock. This is the seven 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: or two open line. We live at the Sentence Convention 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: Center where the fourteenth edition of the By Local Summit 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: and Expo is taking place. This is really a summit 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: that shines the spotlight on the sectors that carry an 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: impact on our. 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: Economy, on job creation as well. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Joining me now in our makeshift studio is Heppi Makuma Longhiti, 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: who is the chief Marketing and Communications Officer at Proudly 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: South African. 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: Happy, great to chat to you. 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 4: Good morning, good morning, good morning to you and the listeners. 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: So this is the fourteenth year of the BI Local Summit. 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: What has the Summit been able to achieve so far? 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 4: The Summit has been able to chew achieve great progress 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 4: and great strides in the lives of local businesses founders 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: of great products in South Africa. The growth is commendable. 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 4: The growth is evident and it has opened a lot 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: of doors for small businesses for isb and Ese in 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: South Africa. It has done great linkages between small businesses 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: and big businesses through the business matchmaking program we have 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: where big business is requested to come not only walk 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 4: the flaws, but really engage and also buy trade with 27 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: the small businesses that are in the room. 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, what way are we trying to take it next? 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: I've been asking the listeners this morning how intentional they 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: are about buying local. And one of the things we 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: spoke about is how when you look at even the 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: global supply chain has been disrupted because of the global days, 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: and even more importantly, now you've got an opportunity to 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: really support small businesses and local businesses and. 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: And keep our pay attention to localization. Localization is going 36 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 4: to be a saving grace. In fact, it reminds me 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: of the COVID era, where you know, we in the 38 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 4: in the in the absence of imports and exports, we 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: were still okay as a people, you know, in terms 40 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: of things that we critically needed to. 41 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: Be able to survive. 42 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: And so what we are hoping to do with the 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: growth of the Summit and Export is to take it 44 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: to a space where you know, we can heavily rely 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 4: on locally manufactured products. Whatever happens in the world because 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: we don't know what tomorrow has in store for us 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: as an economy, and so we're hoping to take it 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: to a place where we can be you know, confident, 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: and we can survive with what we can manufacture locally 50 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 4: as South Africa. 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, can you maybe explain to some of our our listeners. 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 2: We may not be aware of the impact of supporting 53 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: locally produced goods over important ones, how significant is it, 54 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: because you know people, some people think it's a matter 55 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: of just showing support for the local businesses, but actually 56 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: you're feeding homes. There are many jobs that get created, 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: and our economy. 58 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 4: Grows many many jobs. And you're right, some people think, 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: you know, ah has shame, let's support locally produced products. 60 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: It's not an a ha shame situation. It's a situation 61 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: where we are incredibly proud to showcase what it is 62 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: we do as a country and we can showcase this 63 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: globally without feeling apologetic about it. And also just to 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,279 Speaker 4: remind listeners that when you and I make a conscious 65 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: decision to make our purchasing decision in favor of local products, 66 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: you are essentially assisting and helping in creating one more 67 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: job or sustaining the very jobs that we can't afford 68 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 4: to lose, and contributing to the venue chain and to 69 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: the ecosystem of any industry that you may be supporting, 70 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: whether it's furniture, whether it's FMCG, whether it's a beverage industry, 71 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 4: whether it's automotive, whatever it is that is made that 72 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: is locally manufactured. 73 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the things that you know, South Africans 74 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: often raises that, yes, we want to support the local businesses, 75 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: but the price is often the deciding factor. So how 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: do you convince shoppers that buying local is worth it? 77 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: And I know there's an argument about someone is really 78 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: willing to go pay twenty thousand ran for a bag 79 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: you know, manufactured in America or in Europe, but when 80 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: you are here, you want to complain. 81 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: About a bag that is ten thousand rans. Yes, that 82 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: is equally. 83 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: Good, absolutely, if not better, if not better. And so 84 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: what we do say is that we are reminding South 85 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: Africans that everybody has a choice. I mean, we've been 86 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 4: asked somebody has been very ambitious in the past and 87 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: they asked us to ask Macros to change their business 88 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: model because they're too expensive. I was like my brother, 89 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 4: you can't afford Macros and. 90 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: It's okay, it's okay. 91 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 4: Not to afford Macros as somebody else. Well, but there's 92 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: other retail retailers that are that are selling at clothing 93 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 4: items that you and I can afford. That the pie 94 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: is too big for us to find our comfort, our 95 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: niche and and and it's all. It's really the reality 96 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: is that how deep is your pocket? You know, we 97 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: can't having we're having discussions about it is overly priced. 98 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: When you're okay to pay Dodgy in Gabanna fifty thousand 99 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: rand for a shirt and nobody questions him. You don't 100 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: even know that guy. 101 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: At least we know David so. 102 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: But but from your research at Proudly South African, your 103 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: observation has consumer behavior shifted in recent years? Are you 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: seeing more South Africans becoming conscious about supporting local businesses? 105 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: Clement Head, you asked me this question ten years ago, 106 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 4: I would have said, my brother, we have a problem. 107 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: And now I'm very happy. Pun intended to say that 108 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: we've come a long way. The mind shift change is evident. 109 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: The excitement about embracing locally manufactured products is palpable in 110 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: the country, you will still get that auntie and that uncle. 111 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what you say to them. Are there's 112 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: always a problem. 113 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: But in the main, South Africans are really just warming 114 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: up to embracing locally manufactured products and the sales show it, 115 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: and all the touch points we use as proudly South 116 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: African that are relatable that our lifestyle driven. This is 117 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: why the one day you see us at Sona to 118 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 4: hold people accountable. This is why the one day you 119 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 4: see us around the local Fashion Police program on social 120 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 4: media platforms. This is why we are here. This is 121 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 4: why we do makelo and a festival, This is why 122 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 4: we do food trade shows and all of that to 123 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: show South Africans what we really mean when we say 124 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: local is le it. It's not a cliche, it's a lifestyle, 125 00:06:59,200 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: it's a reality. 126 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 127 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: Just lastly, there's a question that keeps coming up. Then 128 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: I'll read one now it says high clerment. Unfortunately, there 129 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: are so many companies that import from China and then 130 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: they pay for and slap on that proudly South African sticker. 131 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: I would like to know how stringent the criteria is 132 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: for granting of this and regulation thereof I see this 133 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: happening far too often in the contract furniture industry. 134 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: That's a question we got from Ken and. 135 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: The listener is on the money. We are aware that 136 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: there's people who do that. They just grab our logo 137 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: and the sticker from the internet and they import stuff 138 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: and they put us stick on it that says made 139 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: in South Africa or proudly South African. Our sticker is 140 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: a trademark. We have a responsibility to play the police. 141 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: So what we do encourage people to do is that 142 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: when you come across that kind of a somebody being 143 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: naughty and doing that, tell on them. We will then 144 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: engage them. What we do we don't fight people because 145 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: at times people don't know they do it, you know, 146 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: because they don't know. At times people take chances. They 147 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: do know and they'll take a chance and we we 148 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: we we engage them and we say come and join 149 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 4: the movement. This is the process to follow. We're very 150 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 4: strict with criteria. We look at local content, we look 151 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: at quality, we look at environmental standards and labor laws. 152 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: Do you conform to all of. 153 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: That, then you you are you know, then you can 154 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: join the campaign and you have card blunts to use. 155 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: Then the logo on your marketing material. 156 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: Yes see happy Makum Loki, Chief Marketing and Communications, obviously 157 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 2: proudly so Al African. 158 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for me. 159 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, my brother. 160 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: It's fourteen minutes before ten. Out lack communit DC, Stephen Aka, 161 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: I see your calls. 162 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: I'll come to them. 163 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: The Clement Mynn Tella Show is live from the Santin 164 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: Convention Center for the Bilocal Summit and Expo, hosted by 165 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Broadly South African on seven O two. 166 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 3: It's eleven minutes