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Speaker 1: Lunch with Pippa Hudson on Cape Talk. Join the conversation.

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Speaker 1: When we think about mountain rescue, we usually picture stranded hikers,

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Speaker 1: perhaps somebody who slipped and fell on the trail, maybe

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Speaker 1: somebody who is suffering from dehydration having misread the weather conditions.

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Speaker 1: But wilderness search and rescue teams are sometimes called out

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Speaker 1: for different kinds of patients, and I was intrigued to

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Speaker 1: read a post on their Facebook page a couple of

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Speaker 1: hours ago about the lengths they went to to rescue

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Speaker 1: a stranded dog. It all started when a German shorthead

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Speaker 1: pointer named Sable went chasing dussies at Hillcrest Estate quarry

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Speaker 1: over the weekend and he simply went too far. He

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Speaker 1: and thankfully his owners were able to call on some

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Speaker 1: expert help to rescue him from that predicament. To tell

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Speaker 1: us more about the story and answer any questions you

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Speaker 1: might have about it, we are joined on the line

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Speaker 1: by World A Search and Rescue spokesperson David Nell. David,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us to chat about the story. I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be interesting to listeners to hear

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Speaker 1: what length the team will go to, even when it's

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Speaker 1: not necessarily a human life on the line. Welcome to the.

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Speaker 2: Show, good and get Asten into the audience.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with the basics of what actually happened

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. What do we know about the background to

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Speaker 1: the rescue.

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Speaker 2: So I think I'm trying to remember what time the

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Speaker 2: call came through. That probably just before ten o'clock we

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Speaker 2: received a call through our activation groups just that fire

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Speaker 2: a couple of extra hands, that there was a stranded

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Speaker 2: dog in the quarionic cliff, but no further information, so

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Speaker 2: we didn't actually know at that time how big the

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Speaker 2: dog was, how it had gotten there. So there were

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Speaker 2: a couple of there are a couple of us at

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Speaker 2: Levat in the north, but it was easy for us

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Speaker 2: to get there quite quickly, and it quickly became apparent

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Speaker 2: that this is actually quite a big cliff. So if

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Speaker 2: you can imagine a lot of the incidents we respond

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Speaker 2: to just across the peninsula, fifty to sixty meters as

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Speaker 2: fas as generally a big cliff, it's not all that

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Speaker 2: common to have an incident on a cliff that is

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Speaker 2: much bigger than that. So this is in the scale

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Speaker 2: of technical rescues. Right out there, it was also pitch black.

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Speaker 2: There are a couple of lights and vehicles down at

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Speaker 2: the bottom sort of illuminating where this poor chap was.

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Speaker 2: But this was actually, in the greatest scheme of things,

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Speaker 2: very technical incident, and to.

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Speaker 1: Have to conduct the rescue in the dark, David, as

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Speaker 1: you said, makes it that much more technically difficult and

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Speaker 1: that much more dangerous for the crews who were involved.

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Speaker 1: How did you actually manage to reach the dog in the.

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Speaker 2: End, So I think the first teams on then sort

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Speaker 2: of established where exactly the dog was, so you in

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Speaker 2: an area that is unknown. A quarry is often quite

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Speaker 2: a difficult and challenging environment to work in, so established

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Speaker 2: a set of anchors that put us right on top

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Speaker 2: of where table was the ledge was, and I wasn't

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Speaker 2: on the ledge, so judging by the photos, the ledge

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Speaker 2: was probably about thirty meters left to right and at

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Speaker 2: quite a steep angle, probably about three meters wide. The

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Speaker 2: above him, just for fear of maybe knocking material down.

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Speaker 2: So we'd entered in a place that we thought was

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Speaker 2: the safest to get to where he was, and then

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Speaker 2: we waited. James from Knine Search and Rescue was there

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Speaker 2: quite quickly with a specialized hardness and of course a

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Speaker 1: I love that. That makes a lot of sense, because David,

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Speaker 1: my next question was going to be around how you

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Speaker 1: keep the patient calm in conditions like this. If it's

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Speaker 1: a human being stuck on a ledge, you can shout

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Speaker 1: reassure them that you're coming and explain to them what

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Speaker 1: you're doing. But a dog, obviously is not that easy

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Speaker 2: I think I think James is going to forever be

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Speaker 2: known as the dog whisperer from here on. I so, again,

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Speaker 2: none of us actually knew what the character of Sable was,

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Speaker 2: whether he was friendly, you know, fearful dogs tend to

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Speaker 2: the fact that he was so trustful, ready to go

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Speaker 1: It was still several hours though, I mean to conclude

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Speaker 1: this rescue David. So it's the weight to get everything

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Speaker 2: So we'd already decided the risk of bringing everybody back

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Speaker 2: up to the top. It just we had a perfectly

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Speaker 2: twenty meters up, it was much safer to lower an attendant,

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Speaker 2: send over a second fire and just to help manage

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Speaker 2: the rescue and certainly manage edges and protection as we

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Speaker 1: Okay, so all the way down still scary Rather the

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Speaker 1: dog and the rescuers than me, David, is all I

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Speaker 1: kind of situation. I mean, it's a remarkable story, but

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Speaker 1: obviously it raises some very serious questions around safety and

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Speaker 1: around the lengths that you and people like you will

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Speaker 1: go to to keep not just people, but they're animals

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Speaker 1: safe as well. I just want to point out for

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Speaker 1: anybody who's coming into this conversation midway that our guest

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Speaker 1: on the line is David Nell from Wilderness Search and Rescue,

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Speaker 1: who was part of a large team involved in the

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Speaker 1: rescue of a dog called Sable at Hillcrest Estate Quarry

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Speaker 1: on Saturday into the late hours of the night and

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Speaker 1: early hours of Sunday morning. All's well, that ends well, David.

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Speaker 1: I gather Sable was without injury in the end. What

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Speaker 2: All of this absolutely amazing incident circus. You can't help

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Speaker 2: knowing that he was unharmed. This was a misadventure that

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Speaker 2: just sort of went wrong, and I think to get

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Speaker 2: definitely a bit of a traumatic incident. But I think

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Speaker 1: Okay, Devin, Let's talk about some of the broader issues

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Speaker 1: though that the story raises. I mean, when we're talking

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Speaker 1: that's going out with you. As you said, this was

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Speaker 1: a case, it was an accident, was a misadventure that

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Speaker 1: perhaps could not have been predicted. But is there anything

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Speaker 2: No, I think in this case, and again they are

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Speaker 2: anything that they should have done differently. I'm just grateful

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Speaker 2: between fire and the technical teams from WESA did a

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Speaker 2: phenomenal job on the day. But again, it comes down

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Speaker 2: to call for help. And quite right, remember that emergency number,

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Speaker 2: call somebody that can help you. When you ask for help,

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Speaker 1: Help, David. A few people are asking the same question,

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Speaker 1: who pays for that help in a situation like this. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you guys are volunteers. People have come out of the

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Speaker 2: I can't speak from a fire and rescue and from

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Speaker 2: from Wildernes Search and Rescue did so as volunteers. So

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Speaker 2: from a Wildernes Search and Rescue point of view, there

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Speaker 2: And then just in general, rescue in the Western Cape

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean it's remarkable, and David, I know

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Speaker 1: that really emphasizes why it's so important to support fundraising

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Speaker 1: it is absolutely remarkable that there is no bill at

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Speaker 1: the end of this large scale, difficult operation. You know,

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Speaker 1: why it's important to support them. Keith is wondering how

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Speaker 1: often this happens that you called out to rescue animals

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Speaker 1: or was this a first for you and your fellow volunteers, So.

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Speaker 2: There are incidents. We're not always the primary person that's called,

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Speaker 2: so often will get calls from somebody like the SBCA.

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Speaker 2: This one was definitely to support fire and rescue, but

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Speaker 2: they do happen occasionally. There have been dogs needing rescue.

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Speaker 2: Dehydration is a particular one on Table Mountain, but it

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Speaker 2: isn't incredibly common, but it does happen.

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Speaker 1: now there that it can happen and that you can

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Speaker 1: be called on if it does happen. You've made a

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Speaker 1: very important point about the importance of calling the people

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Speaker 1: conduct a dangerous rescue, rather than trying to do it yourself,

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Speaker 1: because David, I would imagine if people think I'll just

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be a hassle to anybody, I'll

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Speaker 1: try and resolve this myself. Quite often, you're then dealing

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Speaker 1: with a human rescue as well as a dog rescue.

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Speaker 2: Correct And I cannot emphasize enough we have the most

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Speaker 2: incredible team members, both volunteers and professional, that are more

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Speaker 2: really just I cannot emphasize enough. Know that emergency number.

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Speaker 2: It's two one nine three seven zero three hundred and

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Speaker 2: don't wait. Just if you think you need to help

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Speaker 2: give us a call.

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Speaker 1: That was two one nine three seven three double O.

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Speaker 2: Correct? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So keep that number programmed into your phone, devid. I mean,

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Speaker 1: any other tips you'd like to just mention today as

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Speaker 2: So remember that dogs can be surprised at times they

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Speaker 2: We often see posts or hear of incidents where dogs

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Speaker 2: a leash. I know you think your dog is happy

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Speaker 1: Have The last quick question I want to ask is

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Speaker 1: how listeners support this work. I mean, I've said there

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Speaker 1: encourage everybody to please support your fundraising events and the like,

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Speaker 1: but is there a more direct way to be of

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Speaker 2: So there are two relevant, very relevant at the moment

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Speaker 2: wheys that they can support us. One is directly through

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Speaker 2: the website. There is a support to us with our

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Speaker 2: bank details and a QR code and that is dubdubdubsr

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Speaker 2: dot org dot. And then one of our biggest fundraisers

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Speaker 2: is something called the Cableway Charity Challenge coming up on

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Speaker 2: Gorge in a day, I think you've got twelve hours

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Speaker 2: some of the athletes that are looking for some funding.

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Speaker 1: Okay, David, So we will make a commitment that we

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Speaker 1: will make a point of getting the organizers of the

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Speaker 1: Cableway Charity Challenge on the show to tell our listeners

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Speaker 1: more about how to get involved in that, as that's

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Speaker 1: one where we can say thank you to you and

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Speaker 1: VWS and all the other organizations that you don't think

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Speaker 1: ledge needing help. So, David, we work a point of

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Speaker 1: setting that up for the coming weeks, and we hope

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Speaker 1: it's going to be brilliantly supported, sending lots of money

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Speaker 1: into your coffers. But most importantly, thanks for the role

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Speaker 1: that you played personally in rescuing Sable. We're glad to

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Speaker 1: hear that he is safety back at home, watching Netflix

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Speaker 1: on the couch, and long that may that continue to

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, we're hoping that he is now playing fetch

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Speaker 1: Dussies are best left to their own devices. There's the

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Speaker 1: proof of the pudding. David Nel, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining US Wilderness Search and Rescue spokesperson part of

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Speaker 1: the team involved in that epic rescue at Hillcrest Quarry

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Speaker 1: over the course of the weekend. I wonder if anybody

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Speaker 1: else listening has found themselves in need of animal rescue

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Speaker 1: like that, or with had a dog or a cat

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