1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: We need to find out what's going on in the UK, 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: and to do that we open our doors and our 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: hearts to Gavin Gray. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: Hello, Gavin, Hi there, Esa, Gosh, I'm really really you know, 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: might you wetted my appetite for your meals? 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 3: Most certainly? So? 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: How would you feel about a watermelon and fetters? 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: No? 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: No, I tell you the other thing I can't stand gammon? 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 3: Oh now, oh that's a big mistake. Pineapple gammon. Who 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 3: thought of that? 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. But as you've said that, Gavin, so, 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: my late grandmother, the late Great Madeline or Madge as 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: everybody used to call her. She would we would do 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: traditionally Easter at her house and the menu would be 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: as follows a gammon. She would always do a gammon 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: and with parsley sauce, which as a child I never 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. As an adult, I mean, my mouth is 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: watering thinking about gammon and parsley sauce. But again to 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: my recollection, I'm afraid, Gavin, she would she would bring 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: some pineapple into there, and I've never quite understood that 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: she would then also do for dessert a raspberry moose, 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: which I'm sorry and I can say this now was. 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 3: Awful, awful, No, it was awful. 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: But she would also do it with homemade ice cream, 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: which was the best ice cream now, Gavin, the best 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: home made And it was the only time of year 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: she'd ever make this ice cream. And I'd want her 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: to make it because it was so delicious and creamy. 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: But it was almost like you weren't allowed to have 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: it on its own. It was meant to be, you know, 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: a scoop of the awful moose and on the side 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: of that the ice cream. 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: So you had to have both. 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: And it was quite a bit, quite literally bitter sweet 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: in that you weren't really allowed to have. You couldn't 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: just choose it was. It was very much a combination 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: of things. But isn't that funny? Yeah, the gammon at 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: the gamon, on the pineapple on the gammon. It's not 40 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: for me, Gavin, it's not for me at all. I 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: have to say, right to the matter at hand, at Gavin, 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: and we start with the the well, the arrest has 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: happened now. Three teenagers charged after four Jewish charity owned 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: ambulances were set on fire in North London last week 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: and that they had sulla. They call them isn't it. 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. Now. 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: These are charity run ambulances by the Jewish community, but 48 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: for all faiths. So they attend everything from a scratched 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: finger to a to somebody having a stroke, and they 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: work with the London Ambulance Service and they're based in 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: Northland and Golders Green, a very heavily populated area for 52 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: the Jewish community. Now these were set on fire and 53 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: we have now seen a twenty year old and a 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: nineteen year old, two British men along with a seventeen 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: year old boy. 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: Who have appeared in court. 57 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: The boy, the seventeen year old, is a dual British 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: Pakistani national. The other two hamsa Ikbal and Rahan Khan, 59 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: are British but obviously of the sort of Pakistani descent 60 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: one would suggest. And they have now appeared in court 61 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: in a special sitting and police are now saying a 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: fourth suspect has also been arrested in connection with it. 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: And incidentally he been arrested. 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: At the court. 65 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: He was seen being taken out of the building by police. 66 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: So the court was told that four suspects had taken 67 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: part in the attack and now, as I said, three 68 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: charged in court and another one now arrested. The reason 69 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: this is so sensitive, of course, is over the attacks 70 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: on the Jewish community and the ongoing very very fraught 71 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: relations which some areas of London have with the Jewish community, 72 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: those areas of London with a high Muslim population and 73 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: particularly those of course very keen to support Palestine and 74 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: shout from the streets about the wrongs going on in Palestine. 75 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: So the Prime Minister, whose wife is Jewish, has been 76 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: very strident about saying that we must stamp out anti 77 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: Semitism in all its forms. They have already replaced the 78 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: ambulances with public money, public ambulances to replace these. But 79 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: I think a real sign there these youngsters just twenty 80 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: nineteen and seventeen accused of this crime just show I 81 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: think perhaps the depth how deep this issue runs and 82 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: how concerning it is for the police. 83 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: Devin, What have they actually been charged with? Have they 84 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: been charged with terrorist defenses with arson or I mean 85 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: an argument that said it could be it could be 86 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: a hate crime. So what's there? 87 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's they've been charged with arson with 88 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: intent to damage property and also being reckless as to 89 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: whether life would be endangered. So in other words the 90 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: arson bit obviously, but then they did it in a 91 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: public place, in the car park of a synagogue, and 92 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: there were canisters oxygen canisters inside the ambulance, highly highly 93 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: explosive when they when they are burst, and so that's 94 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: the life endangered bit. 95 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: The terrorism police were involved in. 96 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: The investigation, but at the moment it's not being treated 97 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: as such, right, okay. 98 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Next up five Metropolitan Police officers who've been removed from 99 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: frontline duties. 100 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: Why because it is said that a bag are containing 101 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: firearms and a taser were found on a London street, 102 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: reported to be outside the London Mayor's house. And this 103 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: bag contained firearms and the TAE that are used by 104 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: police officers. So it appears that somebody in the police 105 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: force with the bag left it accidentally right outside Sadiq's home. 106 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: Now a member of the public found it and reported it, 107 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: and not before also reporting it to the Sun newspaper. 108 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: And there's even some rather well we shouldn't laugh, should we, 109 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: but rather funny footage of a police officer bending over 110 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: the bag and being heard on audio to say, oh goodness, 111 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: oh god, that somebody could lose their job over this 112 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 2: sort of thing. So you know, I mean really almost comical. 113 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: But yes, I'm some very very substantial weaponry here, a pistol, 114 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: a taser, some ammunition as well or taken by just 115 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: left there by accident. And the subject now of this investigation, 116 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: Sadikon said to be absolutely furious that this has been 117 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: left outside his home at a time when he's trying 118 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: to portray the police and London as having got their 119 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: act together and being a safer city than it was. 120 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 3: Well, I'm afraid. 121 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: Although the police are saying they're reviewing urgently the circumstances 122 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: of the incident, well, suffice to say, there'll be plenty 123 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: of questions to answer, and the removal from frontline duties 124 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: of five police officers could be a precursor to some 125 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: more serious action against them. 126 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm stunned. How does this happen? And was the fact 127 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: that this bag was left outside the home of Sadik 128 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: Khan was that just coincidence? 129 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: I think that obviously the protection squad officers for Sir 130 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: Sadiq kh follow him around his various things, including to 131 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: make sure he gets home safely. And I don't know, 132 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: s J, but I suspect inside this bag a machine 133 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: gun is still a taser and ammunition. Well, I think 134 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: those are some of the things that they use to 135 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: make sure he keeps safe. But leaving them out and 136 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: about is not exactly keeping us safe. 137 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: That is extraordinary. I see that they were found by 138 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: a passer by and his pregnant girlfriend, and he said, 139 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: my partner saw the bag sitting in the road by 140 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: the curb side and became suspicious. She went over to 141 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: it and kicked it to see what it might be. 142 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: It was lucky one of the guns inside didn't go off. 143 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean, yees, yeah, that's for long. Yeah, removed from 144 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: frontline duties at the least, I would imagine. 145 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: All right. 146 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: One of the world's most famous art galleries and one 147 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: that I have myself visitors visited in Florence, has confirmed 148 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: that it's been subject to a cyber attack. 149 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: Yes, so this is the Offitzi Gallery in Florence, in Italy, 150 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: and it contains some of Italy's most celebrated artworks. Botticelli's 151 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: Birth of Venus is there, and the Primavera is there, 152 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: along with a host of other amazing artwork. Now, sadly 153 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: they have suffered a cyber attack, but they have denied 154 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 2: that the secureity systems protecting those artworks have been compromised. 155 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: They said, nothing has been damaged or stolen. The hackers, though, 156 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: did infiltrate the museum's IT systems, and it's reported accessed 157 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: sensitive security data. The reports are that hackers had infiltrated 158 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: the museum's IT systems, allegedly extracting access codes, internal maps, 159 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: and locations of CCTV cameras and alarms before issuing a 160 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: ransom demand. Now the Offitzi is contesting this, saying its 161 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: security systems were inaccessible from outside and really nothing to 162 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: worry about too much here. But of course, since the 163 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: Louver attack and the broad daylight attack on that art 164 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: gallery in the theft of effectively the French Crown Jewels, 165 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: many art galleries around the world are obviously now checking 166 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: their own security systems to make sure they are up 167 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: to date. The Louver's official reports said too much was 168 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: being spent on purchasing new items, not enough on protecting 169 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: those existing And of course, I guess if it doesn't 170 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: get stolen, everyone tends to get a little bit more relaxed. 171 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: But this clearly shows that that is not the right thing. 172 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: To be doing. 173 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, in a move that is expected 174 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: to save the treasury about ten billion pounds a year 175 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: in the next four years. The age at which British 176 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: pensioners can collect their state pension is rising from sixty 177 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: six to sixty seven from tomorrow. Is that right? Has 178 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: he disappeared? He's fallen into the ether? I wonder what's happened, Gavin? 179 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: Are you with us? He's on the has he has 180 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: he muted himself? No, he's. 181 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: Sorry. 182 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the pensions here in the UK. So as 183 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: from tomorrow the state pension age rises. Can you imagine 184 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: if you were born just before or just after that deadline. 185 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: It's very, very difficult to do these things. But the 186 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: government here we are in such big debt here, we 187 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: need to save money and this aims to save ten 188 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: billion pounds some two hundred and thirty five billion South 189 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: African round a year by twenty thirty. So what it 190 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: effectively means is that those currently aged sixty six and 191 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 2: over receiver state pension. It depends on lots of different 192 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: factors including your spouse, your age, how much you paid 193 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: in etc. But it's now going to rise up until 194 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: sixty seven in a more phased approach than previous arrangements 195 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: to have The move is designed to reflect longer life expectancy, 196 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: and many younger people anticipate working into their seventies. Now, 197 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: the government is still reviewing further pension age rises. I 198 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: really don't think we've heard the end of this. The 199 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: amount paid will run within days by four point eight percent, 200 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: in line with average wages. 201 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: So I'll give you an example. 202 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: That means for a single person, the new flat rate 203 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: pension is roughly twelve and a half thousand pounds a year, 204 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 2: and that is therefore times twenty three. 205 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 3: So what are we looking at. 206 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: There's something like two hundred and sixty thousand South African 207 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: around a year. 208 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: That sounds about right, yes, j yeah, six years. 209 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it sounds like a lot of money. 210 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: But here things are very much more expensive than South Africa, 211 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: as you'll know, particularly accommodation and heating. 212 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: And many think this is really unfair. 213 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: They've paid their money in They were told they would 214 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: be able to retire at sixty five, then it went 215 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: up to sixty six, and now going up to sixty seven. 216 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: The government says it's a choice they have to make. 217 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: God that is that is pretty bleak, actually, isn't it. 218 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: I tell you what. 219 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: As an aside, apparently I'm still eligible for a British 220 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: pension because for a number of years I paid into 221 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: the system. But yeah, I need, I need to get 222 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: on that because I mean, as you say, that would 223 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: make a remarkable difference to me if I'm still living 224 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: in South Africa at that time. I can't imagine why 225 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be to receive it, to receive my British 226 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: pension because I did contribute to a number of a 227 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: number of years. All right, this is very interesting. Fewer 228 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: adults in the UK are posting, commenting on or sharing 229 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: material on social media. 230 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: Yes, and I inside am cheering. As you know, I 231 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: do very little, if no social media. I don't have 232 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: social media accounts, and I just think it's become one 233 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: of these things that people feel forced to do, and 234 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: we've lost the touch of being able to talk to 235 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: one another. Yeah, it's certainly a fault of so many 236 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: young people people I meet nowadays coming out of university. 237 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: They're bright, they're clever, they can do whatever their subject is, 238 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: but they can't talk to anyone and that is a 239 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: real problem. So interesting, this new survey shows that less 240 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: than half. Forty nine percent of respondents say they actively 241 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: post on platforms like Instagram, Facebook and x and that's 242 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: come down from sixty one percent the previous year, so 243 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: sixty one percent down to forty nine percent. 244 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: And what does that mean? 245 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: Where they're basically choosing to post less permanent contact content 246 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: and it's seen what's indicators arise in what I would 247 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: describe as passive social media use. Now what does that mean? Well, 248 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: social media isn't becoming less social, experts are saying is 249 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: becoming less public. People are beginning to realize these are 250 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: not private diaries and private expressions, and so therefore there 251 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: is a liability, particularly if you're employed by a company 252 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: and you make statements about that company, or you make 253 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: statements about the things that it can be detrimental. 254 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: So this looked at things. 255 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: The majority of audts, certainly sixteen to thirty five year olds, 256 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: report using AI tools and of course you would expect 257 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: that anywhay that's seen a massive rise as you would think, 258 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: but very interesting. The UK add up now average an 259 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: online amount of hours four hours thirty minutes every day 260 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, and the amount of hours is 261 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: coming down but still sjy four hours thirty minutes every 262 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: day on average online. 263 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: Quite extraordinary. 264 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: That is extraordinary. I tell you what, I find this 265 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: absolutely fascinating. And I am posting less in a personal 266 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: context the social media accounts that I have. I've got 267 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: a TikTok account because of because I don't want to 268 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: sound silly saying because everyone's got one, But that's you know, 269 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: I have a job and I have a platform that 270 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: almost sort of requires that I have this stuff. So 271 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: I have TikTok. It's really just as it's somewhere that 272 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: I kind of sharpen my video editing stuff. Really, I've 273 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: barely got any followers. Nobody cares what Esjay is doing 274 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: on TikTok. If you want to go and follow me, 275 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: do it. You won't be impressed. Nothing's happening over there. 276 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: Honestly. 277 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: I have my personal Facebook account, which I've had since 278 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: Facebook kind of happened that I used to you know, 279 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: we were all kind of all I'm poking you, and 280 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm posting this. I think I posted something on Facebook. 281 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Maybe I can't even remember. Then. I have my professional 282 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: my Sarah Joan macguala King is a you know, broadcaster 283 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: and author thing, and I use that professionally. It's a 284 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: platform I have to engage professionally, as is my Instagram. 285 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Same thing. And that's not to say that I don't 286 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: post personal things, but again, and at the risk of 287 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: sounding rather cynical, it is still with a professional focus 288 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: in mind. Do you know what I mean? It's it's 289 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: part of Oh and I hate to say this, but 290 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: brand ESJ. If I'm going to sound very cynical, I 291 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: don't post my kids on there, you know. 292 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: It's that. 293 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: So I get that, And I think if I didn't 294 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: have the job that I have, I'm not sure that 295 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: i'd bother honestly, because what's the point. 296 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: And we went for a meal quite recently as a 297 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: were treated to a lovely meal at a quite a 298 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: posh restaurant and we were an extra table of four. 299 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: The food was delivered on the table. It looked absolutely 300 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: beautiful and it was hot, and they all proceeded to 301 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: get their phones out and take photos of each other's food. 302 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: And I thought, do you know what, I just enjoy it. 303 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: I'd get on with it. What are you doing with 304 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: your life? 305 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: You know who's interested? But who are you sending this to? Anyway? 306 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: I just kept my mouth shut because it's none of 307 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: my business. But it does, it does make me marvel 308 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: about it. 309 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: It's very easy to get oh female, it is very 310 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: easy to get caught up in that. When I was 311 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: on Holid when we went to Mauritius in November, and 312 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: how I badly needed that holiday, Gavin, you know. 313 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 3: What I mean. 314 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: I needed to relax and whatever really did needed to 315 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: get away, needed a bit of a break. And I 316 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: found myself and I found myself posting stuff and I thought, 317 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: what are you doing. I'm lying by the pool. I've 318 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: desperately needed time away from my kids and to lay 319 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: it in, just do nothing, and I'm taking pictures of 320 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: the pool. And I was like, put the bloody phone down, 321 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: pick up the book that you've been meaning to read 322 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: for the last five years, and just you know, it's 323 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: almost like we had this conversation yesterday with somebody on 324 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: the show. Our brains are being taken over, right. A 325 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: two five hundred year old golden helmet has been recovered, 326 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: more than a year after it was stolen from a 327 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: Dutch museum. 328 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: Yes, And the reason this is such a good story 329 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: not the fact that it's been returned and it's one 330 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 2: of Romania's greatest treasures, so you'll get the link there. 331 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: It was a Romanian treasure in a Dutch museum, but 332 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: the Romanians had loaned these amazing exhibits, said to be 333 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: their greatest treasures, to the Dutch museum, and it was 334 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: from the Dutch museum that it got stolen. The helmet 335 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: and two golden bracelets date back to four hundred and 336 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: fifty BC. They are quite incredibly intricate, and they've now 337 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: been returned to the museum secured behind a glass case 338 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: with two armed police guarding them the bracelet. The third 339 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: bracelet has not been found now. The theft of the 340 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: helmet really was something that caused outrage in Romania. Questions 341 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: were asked about the security for priceless artifacts on loans. 342 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: Why had they been loaned, Had Romania taken care enough 343 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: to make sure that they know that the the museum 344 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: had got the guards in place, and their theft actually 345 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: promoted a bit of an argument between the two governments, 346 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: and in the end the Dutch government aid it was 347 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: reported about one hundred and ten million South African rand 348 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: in insurance compensation. Romanian officials are now refusing to discuss 349 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: what will happen to that money now that they have 350 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: been returned. But yeah, this whole thing about loans at 351 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: the moment the UK is preparing to host, as you know, 352 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: the Bayer Tapestry said to be priceless, not because it's 353 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: worth nothing, but it is simply unique, so it is 354 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: impossible to value. Really, we're taking loan, it's very fragile. 355 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: Oh boy, I hope, I hope it all goes fine 356 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: and returns to France in a good condition. 357 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: All right, And then Marmalade, which has long been a 358 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: quintessential British preserve, could now be looking slightly different because 359 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: of a planned food deal with the European Union. What's 360 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: the story here. 361 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: Well, the last week or so, the Prime Minister's been 362 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: talking of much closer integration with the European Union. He's 363 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 2: basically had enough of Donald Trump making fun of him 364 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: and being rude about Britain, and I think he thinks, well, 365 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: while Donald Trump is a president, we're going to make 366 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: closer ties with our closer allies. So that of course 367 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. But for those that voted Brexit, 368 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: and the fact that Labor, the party of Government, has 369 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: said in its manifesto, we will not be rejoining Europe 370 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: and we will not be going back into their single market. 371 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 2: This raises a lot of concerns because it is reported 372 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: that the UK is about to announce a EU food 373 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: deal and in it marmalade, that orange, lovely preserve that 374 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: we tend to think quintessentially British, wonderful at breakfast. Well, 375 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: the Germans don't like it being called marmalade. 376 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 3: It confuses them with some of. 377 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: Their existing preserves, so it's going to have to be 378 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 2: sold as citrus marmalade. Now, for many Britons, having to 379 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: move from pounds and ounces to Kilo's was bad enough 380 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: having to have the kink in our bananas measures so 381 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: that they were straight and not kinked all. Apparently because 382 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: of EU regulations, this is something that with a lot 383 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 2: of people will think, what, why are we agreeing It's 384 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: been marmalade for centuries. 385 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: We like marmalade. Why are you making us change our name. 386 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: Well, apparently that's going to be one of the side 387 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: effects of all of this, and of course let's not 388 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: forget it's been very very well boosted recently in sales 389 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: by Paddington with his marvelous marmalade sandwiches. So yes, these 390 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 2: are things that look like they're going to be so 391 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: it will have to be labeled. We believe citrus marmalade 392 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: a German map pushing for the change, that the naming 393 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: rules were contrary to German linguistic tradition and as such 394 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: we're going to have to cow tao. 395 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: I think if this deal is agreed. 396 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: I tell you what one of my favorite things to eat, 397 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: which I can't eat these days, but I one of 398 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: my favorite things white white bread, which I can't tell 399 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: you the last time I had white bread years and 400 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: years ago. White bread, proper butter, like a thick serving 401 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: of butter, and then marmalade and a cup of tea. 402 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: Oh stuff, isn't it? 403 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: I know? 404 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: That is really the stuff? 405 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: Ought to bits in it? You must have been must. 406 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: Have chunky bits, got to have chunky bits. Are you 407 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: are you doing anything special for? Are you doing an 408 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: Easter lunch or anything? 409 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: Gavin? Do you know? 410 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: S J. We did an Easter Good Friday family lunch. 411 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: We did a Saturday Easter Saturday lunch yesterday. 412 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 3: Today I'm just on the sofa. 413 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: Stuff. 414 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: What did you have what did you? 415 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: What did you? 416 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: What did you go for? 417 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 3: Lamb on Friday? And chicken yesterday? 418 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: That's so good. 419 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm now we've got a mountain of food to finish. 420 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: Oh have you you see I've I've left it. I've 421 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: sort of I've forgotten all about it. And I was thinking, 422 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: as I said, I was thinking about having a bribe. 423 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to happen today again because 424 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: I know of my bride girl, but I'm thinking to 425 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: I haven't I can't know the last time I cooked 426 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: any lamb, But I feel like maybe I could just 427 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: go and do some lamb, some new potatoes, a bit 428 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: of veg. I don't know that it does sound good, 429 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: doesn't it? Or I bite the bullet and try and 430 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: find although at this late junctch at juncture, I don't 431 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: know that I'm going to find anywhere to take take 432 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: the kids for lunch. But I don't know, But I 433 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: do fancy doing something for Eastern lunch. 434 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: You know what? 435 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: I feel like? 436 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: I feel like somebody else going to going somewhere. Where 437 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: could I get folks a snook like bride snook? Where 438 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: could I go with maybe apricor chat? You know, what 439 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, like a problem. Well I don't have to cook, Gavin. 440 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: Thank you for while I ponder about my lunchtime options. Gavin, 441 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to bid you addour and say happy Easter 442 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: to you. We'll catch you, We'll catch you next week