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Speaker 1: Seven o two Weekend Breakfast and Parenting with Mickey Bush.

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Speaker 2: It's twelve minutes after eight o'clock time Press to talk

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Speaker 2: at parenting for this week, and this week we're looking

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Speaker 2: at how parents can help their kids understand the importance

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Speaker 2: of teamwork and also the importance of collaboration. And it's

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Speaker 2: the kind of listen that you kind of need your

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Speaker 2: whole life. You need to be able to be a

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Speaker 2: team member and work with other people at home, especially

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Speaker 2: if you have siblings, but even if you don't, you

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Speaker 2: need to be a team member, and the house you

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Speaker 2: live in, you need to be a team member. At school,

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Speaker 2: you need to be a team member in sports. You

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Speaker 2: need to be a team member and know how to

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Speaker 2: work with people throughout your life, in your work career

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Speaker 2: and your extra murals. So it's just a foundational skill,

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Speaker 2: this ability to be able to be a team player

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Speaker 2: and work well with people. And so that's what we're

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Speaker 2: talking about this morning, and I'd love to hear your

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Speaker 2: experiences about how you're teaching your kids teamwork the importance

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Speaker 2: of collaboration. Let us don't own double one eight three

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Speaker 2: And seven two seven O two one seven oh two,

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Speaker 2: joined as always by a residence human potential and parenting

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Speaker 2: expert Nikki Bush. Nikki a very good morning too.

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Speaker 1: Good morning googs, and I'm coming from a farm in

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Speaker 1: the Free State where the electricity went down this morning

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Speaker 1: in a storm. So teamwork to get me online right now,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Now no internet, no nasense. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but here we are.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully the line holds because sometimes when the electricity dips,

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Speaker 2: the line also drops as well. So today we're talking

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Speaker 2: about quite an old school idea, the idea of teamwork

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Speaker 2: and collaboration. And it's the kind of idea that even

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Speaker 2: as you know we become more connected on the internet,

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Speaker 2: there is ai. It is an idea that still remains

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Speaker 2: quite relevant even in this very modern age.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about that absolutely. In fact, I presented

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Speaker 2: With oh having a bit of trouble with Nikki's line there.

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Speaker 2: As she mentioned, she is coming to us from the

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Speaker 2: Free State and power is an issue. As we know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes when the power goes down, network connectivity also goes

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Speaker 2: down with it, so we will try get her back

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Speaker 2: on the line. But we are talking about teamwork, which

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Speaker 2: is really it's such an old idea at not a

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Speaker 2: new idea, the importance of being a team player. But

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Speaker 2: I think you needed more now, especially in this digital world.

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Speaker 2: Are you able to work with other people? Are you

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Speaker 2: pleasant to work with? It's not enough to be good

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Speaker 2: at your job, sometimes you also oftentimes you also need

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Speaker 2: to be pleasant to work with, And I think that's

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Speaker 2: where the teamwork and the collaboration works in. Very few

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Speaker 2: companies will tolerate people who are ill tempered or disruptive,

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Speaker 2: or even if your work is good, because that would

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Speaker 2: have said the balance unless you are exceptional, you like

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Speaker 2: as Steve Jobs, who was notoriously sometimes bad tempered, but

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Speaker 2: he was by many people considered a genius. And so

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Speaker 2: this idea of needing to teach kids teamwork and collaboration

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Speaker 2: is still very very relevant. I think it's going to

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Speaker 2: be one of those soft skills we often hear about

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Speaker 2: the importance of soft skills. Kids having these skills that

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Speaker 2: they can transfer between jobs, between industries, between activities. I

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Speaker 2: think the importance of teamwork and collaboration and being able

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Speaker 2: the test of time, even as technology and the way

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Speaker 2: a thing all of us need. And so we're talking

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Speaker 2: are on outside Nikki, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Yes here we are again us another time.

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Speaker 2: So I was saying, this idea of teamwork and being

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Speaker 2: able to work with people am well with people. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, no great success happens in a vacuum.

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Speaker 1: In fact, even mobile prizes in scientific fields, which have

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Speaker 1: often takes you know, teamwork to make the dream work,

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Speaker 1: a home just by doing chores. You know, there are

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Speaker 1: children watch TV and play online games. That's about teamwork.

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Speaker 1: When we have meals, we should be planning, we should

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Speaker 1: be prepping together. We should be laying the table together.

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Speaker 1: We should be carrying the dishes and packing up the

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Speaker 1: dishwasher together. The word is togetherness where everybody takes you know,

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Speaker 1: has a role to play, where everybody is a contributor,

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Speaker 1: common ground, to give people opportunities to take part in

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Speaker 1: ways to teach teamwork is to encourage your children to

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Speaker 1: be involved in sporting activities or a school play for example.

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Speaker 1: And the school play is a wonderful way of showcasing

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Speaker 1: teamwork because everybody has different roles, whether you have a

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Speaker 1: in lighting or costume or design or stage management. You know,

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Speaker 1: a play cannot come together without everybody participating in their

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Speaker 1: particular role. And is there's no one job that's more

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Speaker 1: important than the job. Even in a building for example,

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Speaker 1: when they blow. That's important. And children need to learn

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Speaker 1: that they will play various roles in their lives and

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Speaker 1: every role they play is important. All right.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned right at the beginning that this lesson, this

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Speaker 2: or some parents find themselves doing everything for their children.

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Speaker 2: And we've spoken about this before where you said, you know,

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Speaker 2: parents don't intend to, but not allowing your kids to

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Speaker 2: be involved to learn how to do things, especially independently,

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Speaker 2: can be really really bad for them. They will struggle

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Speaker 2: They won't be the kind of people people think, oh,

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Speaker 1: Well, the problem with that scenario is that you raise

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Speaker 1: learned helplessness. They learn to be helpless, they don't learn

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Speaker 1: them life skills that allow them to contribute when they're

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Speaker 1: in a group, when they're in a team. So you know,

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Speaker 1: you send them after university and suddenly they have to

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Speaker 1: And so we really are doing our children at the

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Speaker 1: service by not upskilling them with life skills. And this

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Speaker 1: is the easiest place to start is at home, in

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Speaker 1: the family, because family is your team, and within the

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Speaker 1: children will discover the me So it's important for children

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Speaker 1: to be involved in groups, to be socialized, and that

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Speaker 1: But in real life it's not a one on one situation.

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Speaker 1: We will be part of teams, we won't be part

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Speaker 1: of you know, a bit a larger number. Your children

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Speaker 1: out a niche for themselves within a group. So family

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Speaker 1: is the first team. It's very, very vital that children

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Speaker 1: and then a contributing member of their class group, and

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Speaker 2: And so it sounds as though, you know, you mentioned

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Speaker 2: that it's quite important to do teamwork or we're involved

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Speaker 2: in teams because it teaches you how to socialize, You

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Speaker 2: And so it sounds as though teamwork and being part

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Speaker 2: kids about empathy, about consideration about Yes, you are you,

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Speaker 2: You are very important to yourself, but you are not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, empathy is such a huge thing. Human

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Speaker 1: connection is a huge thing, and The other thing that

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Speaker 1: And I see this in the corporate environment as well.

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Speaker 1: I do a lot of process work in my facilitation workshops,

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Speaker 1: And when you look at it a table, always say,

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Speaker 1: And in this way you also learn how not to

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Speaker 1: duplicate efforts. You know, so often we need to save time,

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Speaker 1: And I love, I love watching it when people get

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Speaker 1: So this is all part of being a part of

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Speaker 1: execute that part well based on your skills. So that's

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Speaker 1: part of teamwork, is discovering who is good at what

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Speaker 1: and effectiveness. And that's what we're after when we're part

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Speaker 1: And so that interdependence is almost hunter to what we've

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Speaker 1: So I would suggest that people get a hold of

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Speaker 3: X fact Yes, yes, many.

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Speaker 2: Xy Oh sorry, Nick, you were really struggling with your

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Speaker 2: line there. Yeah, it's not helping us.

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Speaker 1: Sorry.

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Speaker 2: So you were saying a great way to start as

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Speaker 2: that book about your child's X factor or helping your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an entire section on the X factors for

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Speaker 1: success and that includes what we're talking about. Today. It

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Speaker 1: includes curiosity, it includes communication skills, it includes being good

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Speaker 1: with technology. There's so many X factors for success that

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Speaker 1: there's X factors of things that really will get them

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Speaker 1: at Nikkybush dot com and at good bookstores and just

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Speaker 1: really celebrate family. There's so much you can teach your

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Speaker 2: NICKI, thank you very much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Is always a great pleasure to have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. That is our resident human potential

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