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Speaker 1: Clement Manya Talent streaming on the Prime Media plus at do.

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Speaker 2: You SV channel eight nine, seven and one to six

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Speaker 2: at them.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Clem and Mane Talent seven or two listeners.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Constitutional Court must give explanation for

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Speaker 3: the delay on this judgment for from Aposta, because every

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Speaker 3: judgment is being given after that prescribed minimum. So in

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Speaker 3: other ways, all the judgments that delayed, if they were

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Speaker 3: to give a reason, then they must give reasons to

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Speaker 3: all the other judgments as well, because they cannot treat

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Speaker 3: this case different from the other cases that they have.

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Speaker 3: We always say it must be a crossboard. All are equals,

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Speaker 3: so even the normal judgments for the other people in

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Speaker 3: the court are delayed.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I think, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Good morning Clem. Look we I think we all know

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Speaker 5: that like they Constitution, tuitional court and even like high

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Speaker 5: courts in South Africa, there's been like experiencing serious, serious backlogs.

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Speaker 5: But I mean it was the issue even before the

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Speaker 5: latest or the current Chief Justice took over. Understand So yes,

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Speaker 5: I agree with you, but I mean they should take

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Speaker 5: no leice than tray months for the court to issue

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Speaker 5: the judgment.

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Speaker 2: Understand. But then we.

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Speaker 5: Know, like the challenge is there, They've been well documented,

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Speaker 5: so I think it's because of like now the individual

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Speaker 5: involved in this case, would they judgement patents to that

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Speaker 5: THEFF is full in pressure and now we think like

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Speaker 5: they could be alter your motives or anything like that.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think that.

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Speaker 2: Is the case here.

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Speaker 5: I think they've experiencing serious backlogs and I think they're

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Speaker 5: also understuff today. So yeah, that's my take on the issue.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Lament, Character Impact, Body judge me.

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Speaker 6: Money Clement and the team from CAPTA. For me, when

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Speaker 6: it comes to the Paapala judgment, I almost like I

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Speaker 6: will forgive them with the long waiting that we've been

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Speaker 6: waiting for. But for me, when it comes out, it

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Speaker 6: better makes sense. Did the mustine give us with question

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Speaker 6: marks there and there? It must make sense to the

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Speaker 6: food because they took their time, so meaning they put

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Speaker 6: a lot of thought in it, so they mustine come

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Speaker 6: here and then we're already in the judgment and we

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Speaker 6: still have so many questions, so like we have egg

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Speaker 6: on our faces and it must make sense. Then we

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Speaker 6: will forgive the long waiting that we've been waiting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, got you. I mean I just think it

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Speaker 2: should concern us whether it's a judgment that involves sitting

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Speaker 2: ahead of state, or it is a judgment that's about

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Speaker 2: somebody who the public may not know. When when it

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Speaker 2: takes this long for a judgment to be delivered, it

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Speaker 2: should concern us just generally. And that's why I've said,

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Speaker 2: I mean the first scenario I thought of, I mean

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Speaker 2: to wait a year and three or four months, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and almost four months for a judgment. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I said maybe the first scenario I think, which I

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Speaker 2: think is probably the reason here, is they are serious

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Speaker 2: backlocks in the Constitutional Court, serious enough to delay a

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Speaker 2: judgment by a year and three months or two. You know,

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Speaker 2: this is the judgment that's gonna have serious consequences. But

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Speaker 2: I'm not too convinced on this second scenario, because the

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Speaker 2: Constitutional Court shouldn't concern itself with the timing of its

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Speaker 2: judgments and what the consequences of this of its judgments

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Speaker 2: should be. I don't think they do that. So if

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Speaker 2: the problem then is there are serious backlocks, then also

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Speaker 2: what are you doing about it as the contu as

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Speaker 2: the judiciary, Because just as delayed is just as denied

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Speaker 2: in a sense, so that that still for me, says

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Speaker 2: that issue needs to be looked at quite closely. What

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Speaker 2: are the consequences when a judgment is delayed for this long?

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Speaker 2: I mean the eff had to protest there outside the court. Now,

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Speaker 2: the lead of the iff had to write a letter

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Speaker 2: so that he can be assured that, oh, it's coming

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Speaker 2: within a month. It's at an advanced stage. But I

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Speaker 2: really think we need a full explanation at the very

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Speaker 2: list of why it's taken this long. And if there

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Speaker 2: are the judgments that have taken this long, they must say,

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Speaker 2: this is how long these things have taken and this

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Speaker 2: is what we are doing about it to avoid such

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Speaker 2: long delays. So that's what I think. Keep your cause

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Speaker 2: and what's up coming on that. Let's go to port

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Speaker 2: who is calling us from dip groove in. So you

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Speaker 2: want to reflect on this trend where people are shifting

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Speaker 2: from alcohol consumption. What's your experience, Headlament.

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Speaker 7: I am proud, so proud to have contributed to that trend.

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Speaker 7: On the first of June twenty twenty four, after forty

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Speaker 7: years of drinking, and there I say every drinking, I decided, look,

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Speaker 7: this was the last time I could not handle alcohol

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Speaker 7: responsibly and I decided. Now, okay, sharp, I'm sixteen. Now

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Speaker 7: I'm feeling very very good. I will not say I

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Speaker 7: regret not having stopped earlier, because hey.

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Speaker 2: That was not my time.

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Speaker 7: But I can say to anybody out there, it's never

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Speaker 7: too late, but it must start with you. I was

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Speaker 7: tired of the barbe last. I was tired of you know,

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Speaker 7: time and again I asked myself, how did I drive

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Speaker 7: back home? I was tired of that. I was tired

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Speaker 7: of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, have you even made it home?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So yes? Can you imagine? Can you imagine?

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Speaker 7: I mean, you're a family man, but you come home

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Speaker 7: around three four am? You wake up in the morney,

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Speaker 7: You ask yourself, but how do you take get here?

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Speaker 2: Remember so in the nineteen months, then how has it

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Speaker 2: been for you nineteen months of being sober? Are your

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Speaker 2: friends do they understand that you constantly ask? Because I

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Speaker 2: find that, you know, because when I trained for Comrades,

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Speaker 2: I also will stop drinking from Jan Noarre until after

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Speaker 2: I'm done with Comrades. And what I pick up is

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Speaker 2: when I'm around friends, they always asking, or even people

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Speaker 2: I don't know, why are you not drinking? So it's

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Speaker 2: almost like drinking is supposed to be the norm, and

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Speaker 2: when you are not drinking, you are the weird one,

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Speaker 2: which I think actually should be the other way around.

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Speaker 2: How have you experienced it?

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Speaker 7: I mean it's not only asking, it's mocky, mocky, you know,

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Speaker 7: the mocking path. And I'm a runa as well. You know,

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Speaker 7: post running, we always and I would be the first

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Speaker 7: one to, you know, pull up my coler back there

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Speaker 7: and you know, have drinks. And then you would be

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Speaker 7: mocked to say, when Amon, you're an old man, why

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Speaker 7: it's too date? You always you already have you know,

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Speaker 7: proser fees or something like that. You know they'll mock you.

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Speaker 7: It was not easy for the first I think six

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Speaker 7: months or so. But then yeah, I got used to

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Speaker 7: the mocking. And but then again you because now you

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Speaker 7: don't find any joy in hanging around until midnight, So

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Speaker 7: you get to be a bought to your friends, because

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Speaker 7: you know when now when you're out with friends you

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Speaker 7: want to live for home at eight pm.

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Speaker 2: You know when you.

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Speaker 7: Become the particular because when you're drunk you talk a lot.

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Speaker 7: Now you no longer talk a lot, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and post running and cycling, Yeah, got.

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Speaker 2: Used to me. Yeah, thank you so much and thanks

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Speaker 2: for sharing your experience with us as someone who's contributed

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Speaker 2: to this trend. It's a global trend in fact that's

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Speaker 2: emerging that we're seeing a shift away from alcohol. Thirty

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Speaker 2: percent of South African consumers say they intend to reduce

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Speaker 2: their alcohol intake, which is almost double the global figure

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Speaker 2: of seventeen percent. And I wonder if you are one

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Speaker 2: of those that have either already shifted away from alcohol

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Speaker 2: or you intend to have you reduced or changed your

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Speaker 2: consumption of alcohol, And what's the reason for that. What's

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Speaker 2: influenced that change? Was it your social circle? Is it

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Speaker 2: because you wanted a healthy lifestyle? Is it because just

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Speaker 2: like the coller, you were tired of getting home and

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Speaker 2: you don't remember how you got there? Eh? Oh? Is

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Speaker 2: it for religious reasons? What are your thoughts? Lement?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is anonymous from roddypot so literally gots to

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Speaker 10: the reduction of alcohol from the people. I also have

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Speaker 10: noticed it some they are not even interested anymore, and

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Speaker 10: then I think we must encourage them to drink again

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Speaker 10: because alcohol is bringing a lot of GDP or GDP

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Speaker 10: encourage people to drink and stare and not stop drinking.

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Speaker 8: Then go, good morning, Clement. It's ready bobway here from Midrant.

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Speaker 8: I stopped drinking twenty three years. It's already twenty three

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Speaker 8: years to date, and my daughter was two years at

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Speaker 8: the time. I remember coming back from work. I took

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Speaker 8: out a bottle from the fridge, opened it, then pour

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Speaker 8: into a glass, you know, a bottle of beer. Before

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Speaker 8: me and she asked me, Papa, is this nice? And

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Speaker 8: you know, she wanted to taste, and you know, it

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Speaker 8: took me almost a minute to respond, and I said, no,

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Speaker 8: but Papa, why are you putting into that class? And

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Speaker 8: I said no, I'm going to pour it out into

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Speaker 8: the kitchen sink. And I did that, stood up, put

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Speaker 8: it out, and we said until eleven o'clock at night,

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Speaker 8: and we went to bed. The following day, I couldn't

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Speaker 8: two weeks without drinking, and the third week I decided,

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Speaker 8: you know, to stop completely. And I'm living a healthy

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Speaker 11: Man in Clement, so firstly, let me just say on

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Speaker 11: the issue of adjudgment, I for one, I'm so happy

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Speaker 11: that it's finally like we're finally going to hear the

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Speaker 11: alcohol consumption, uh me and a group of friends we decided,

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Speaker 11: like we challenged each other from last year as early

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Speaker 11: as March, we challenge ourselves to say that you're gonna

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Speaker 11: stop drinking as like completely and then.

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Speaker 2: So fast, so goodna lie to you.

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Speaker 4: We stop drinking.

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Speaker 12: So what we do during the weekends, in the morning,

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Speaker 12: we go running, and then during the days then we

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Speaker 12: go to the stadiums we go catch a movie, like, yeah,

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Speaker 12: we changed our lifestyle and it's so fast, so good.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, appay here from the Easter and thanks lamming.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's fascinating. Yeah that your partners must be the

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Speaker 2: happiest in the world. He tell me. Go see you

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Speaker 2: call it from centering. You want to share what's good

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Speaker 2: that you have seen in your space? Is it workspace?

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Speaker 2: Is it in your community?

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Speaker 13: Very e clemen. Timmy goes to chef So what's great

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Speaker 13: is you know, it's good to have a good news

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Speaker 13: story now and again it was all the dom and groups.

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Speaker 13: So I work in the Triple Bee compliance space and

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Speaker 13: most of my work is around enterprise and with light development.

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Speaker 13: So through a client that I've been consulting to, one

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Speaker 13: of their employees actually their job was made redundant. So

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Speaker 13: instead of saying cheers by at the end of March,

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Speaker 13: they brought me in at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 13: helped me ask me to help her start a business

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Speaker 13: because they knew the journey was going to end for

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Speaker 13: her in corporate in March. And we've gone through that

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Speaker 13: whole process and bought her equipment and as of the Saturday,

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Speaker 13: we're launching her suits and treats shop in gig Slutes

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Speaker 13: called NAS Treats, and she's excited. So it's great to

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Speaker 13: see you responsible corporate citizens. I think just by your

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Speaker 13: that you have an opportunity for you to become an

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Speaker 13: entrepreneur and we're actually going to pay you with a

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Speaker 4: I'm fifty seven years old.

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Speaker 16: But this time, guess what. I put God inside and

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Speaker 2: Nollly, next, next, next, That's good. I'm glad. I'm glad

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Speaker 18: Ah, I love to Clement that alcohol, but I am

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Speaker 2: see how we're reclaiming the streets of Josie for the

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Speaker 7: I wonder what's going to happen?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well, they will have to respect the judgment.

436
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Speaker 2: I personally have faith. I'm sure a lot of you

437
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: have also faith in the Constitutional Court. We've got some

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Speaker 2: of the best justices in the world. Really, I've got

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Speaker 2: faith in the Constitution the same way I've had faith

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Speaker 2: even in the times when they have ruled on very

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Speaker 2: sensitive matters. I mean, remember then kind of judgment. Remember

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Speaker 2: the judgment where the former president Jacob Zuma had to

443
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Speaker 2: be sent to jail. There have been moments like that

444
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: in this country where it's difficult, it's sensitive judgment. But

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00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: they come and all they do is interpret the Constitution

446
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Speaker 2: and tell you whether there was something wrong or not.

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Speaker 2: And I've got faith in the Constitutional Court. If they

448
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: come out and they say, and by the way, you

449
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: being unhappy with it judgment doesn't necessarily mean you don't

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Speaker 2: respect it. Mhm. Remember that guy who killed Chris Honey

451
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Speaker 2: your news valush, Remember when the Constitutional Court ruled, you know,

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Speaker 2: which led to him being out. There are a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, including myself, who are not necessarily happy with

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Speaker 2: that judgment given what this man has done and how

455
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Speaker 2: it risked the peace in this country, But you respect

456
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Speaker 2: it because you have faith in the wisdom of our justices.

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Speaker 2: And even in this case, I think whether the eff

458
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Speaker 2: because they it could very well be that they're going

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Speaker 2: to be disappointed they didn't they don't get the relief

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Speaker 2: that they've been seeking. But they have a responsibility to

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Speaker 2: also respect the judgment and say, well, we may not

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Speaker 2: agree with it, but we respect it because that is

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Speaker 2: the judgment from the highest court in the land. More

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Speaker 2: of your what's ups.

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Speaker 15: Morning morning, Clemson team. Yeah, on the issue of what

466
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Speaker 15: I have done to myself now, is that put myself

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Speaker 15: that I can drive drink a beer a day normal,

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Speaker 15: This thing of drinking on weekends or at the end

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Speaker 15: of the month when I have money, No, I just

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Speaker 15: grab my beer, which is less than thad rand. If

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Speaker 15: I'm not mistaken, then I drink it a day after

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Speaker 15: week then I point the glass. I drink weekends. Maybe

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Speaker 15: it's gonna be two or three beers. But yes, I

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Speaker 15: was that person who would drink beer over the weekends

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Speaker 15: and it was affecting me financially and health wise. So

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Speaker 15: I've discovered that it's better drink my beers one at

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Speaker 15: a time, one at a time, one day time that

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Speaker 15: drink them all at once, but over the weekend or

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Speaker 15: at the end of the month. Then Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 15: one thing I've observed. Now it's just take easy drink yea. Yeah,

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Speaker 15: the one beer, two beers at the tirement. Yeah, I

482
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Speaker 15: think it's working out for me. Text claims good shows always.

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Speaker 4: Good morning clements, credite show is always.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 21: I think quitting alcohol was the best decision ever I've

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Speaker 21: ever made in my in my entire life.

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Speaker 7: Ah.

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Speaker 21: I used to spend a lot of money on alcohol,

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Speaker 21: and you find out many and comes and I don't have.

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Speaker 4: Money to do other things like transport and stuff. But

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Speaker 4: I can afford strooperries right now, like I can afford

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Speaker 4: nice things.

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Speaker 8: In my.

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Speaker 22: Good morning clement.

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Speaker 18: Not true lessness.

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Speaker 22: Look, the Constitutional Court years doesn't have a timeline on

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Speaker 22: when they should deliver.

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Speaker 2: This judgment.

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Speaker 22: But it also goes with how important it is, how

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Speaker 22: agent it is. Is it a matter of a national importance.

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Speaker 22: That's why there's they place more priority on those cases.

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Speaker 22: A case like this is it's it's really and it's

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Speaker 22: very much important, you understand, So they should have maybe

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Speaker 22: attended to it quicker and issued the judgment because it's

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Speaker 22: it's it's a sitting president, so it's it's it's kind

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Speaker 22: of worrying for me, and I'm really skeptical as to

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Speaker 22: uh is it will the judgment come out saying that

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Speaker 22: the president really did violate some conduct or there's a misconduct.

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Speaker 22: I thought that will happen, taking into consideration the amount.

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Speaker 4: Of delay that I've already take. Congratulate the men who

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Speaker 4: just stopped drinking.

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Speaker 23: Glad for you as a family man, especially me. I

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Speaker 23: have four kids and I'm married.

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Speaker 2: That thing.

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Speaker 23: When I started getting married thirteen years ago, I knew

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Speaker 23: that alcohol and drinking and smoking was going to be

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Speaker 23: out of the door and take.

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Speaker 2: A little that I'll never go.

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Speaker 23: There was no way I'll be a father in the

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Speaker 23: husband with the smoking and drinking. It doesn't make sense

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Speaker 23: to never makes sense for me. Gus m hmm.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, it doesn't make sense to other people, but

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Speaker 2: the other people that actually have it controlled. But I'm

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Speaker 2: really interested in and I've loved hearing also the different

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Speaker 2: experiences and influences that led to the decision to stop

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Speaker 2: drinking alcohol because it looks like there is this significant

527
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Speaker 2: global shift where people are moving away from from alcohol. Oh,

528
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: at the very least they're changing their alcohol intake. So

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Speaker 2: really interesting to hear. In fact, I've heard a lot

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Speaker 2: from the guys. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, I I've

531
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Speaker 2: not received a call or a voice note from from

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Speaker 2: a lady today explaining why they have stopped drinking or

533
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: shifted from alcohol, unless I missed it earlier on. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't remember getting that. But I've had a lot

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Speaker 2: of guys who say I wanted to be a better man.

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Speaker 2: I realized that I'm now a family man, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I was tired of getting home and I don't even

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Speaker 2: remember how I got there. That's great, but I also

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Speaker 2: want to hear also from you ladies what you experience

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Speaker 2: has been. All right, let's go back to some more

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Speaker 2: what's ups on seventeen seven two and seven oh two.

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Speaker 24: Money Clement my here in Midrand. I'm also one of

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Speaker 24: the people who are away first stop drinking. Recently. For me,

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Speaker 24: there's a number of reasons. I'm working on a very

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Speaker 24: big project in a in cap town. I've also registered

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Speaker 24: for a postgraduate degree with the UNISSA. I'm also trying

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Speaker 24: to run a small company. So when I looked at

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Speaker 24: the time that I have, I don't even have time

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Speaker 24: to continue drinking. But also I've been drinking now for

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Speaker 24: over twenty years, and I didn't even see what I

551
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 24: was benefiting. So I've decided, know what, I think it's

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Speaker 24: about time that I stopped because I spent a lot

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Speaker 24: of money on drinking, so it's about time I do

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Speaker 24: something else. I invest my money elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: Good morning in Clement, my Lami here in Deviton.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, thanks to yeah for putting the pressure on the

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Speaker 25: Constitutional Court to deliver a parlor a judge. I think

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Speaker 25: it's been long. Five hundred and something days is too

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Speaker 25: long to deliver judgment. Well at the opposition party are

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Speaker 25: enjoying the clean light in the GNU. Thanks for eff

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Speaker 25: for standing toll. Yeah, that is the only party that

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Speaker 25: gave us the hope. Thank you the man Malama Gay.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you Malamo. Let's wait and see that judgment

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Speaker 2: expected within a month, and I hope there will be

565
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Speaker 2: a bit of an explanation because it's been a year

566
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Speaker 2: and close to four months of delays and at the

567
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: very least our justices must be able to say, well,

568
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Speaker 2: this is because of maybe the backlocks, and what are

569
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Speaker 2: they doing to deal with the backlocks? Because it can

570
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Speaker 2: be normality that there's some judgments that are going to

571
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Speaker 2: take over a year and three months to be delivered

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Speaker 2: Stand o'clock coming up after the news or hanging out

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Speaker 2: feature